/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>60864323
I want a full size keyboard with the tenkey on the left, black switches, cherry stabilizers, and sweet lighting effects like my ducky board.
Does it exist?

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>>60864323
James donkey is 40 bucks on gearbest right now
>gaterons
>detachable cable
>good build quality
-one lighting
-looks like a tonka truck

>>60864363
It looks like the tonka part is removable, can anyone confirm?

>>60864366
Should've waited. Its on alixpress now for 100 bucks if you use the coupon
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Magiceforce-MINI-82-Key-White-Backlit-Double-Shot-Keycap-Antighosting-DPI-Switch-Cherry-MX-Switch/32801201607.html

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>>60864348
yeah there are a couple, but they're expensive

>>60864363
I'd pay more for non-tonka truck.

>>60864377
nope

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Just placed the order from everyone's favorite keycap seller. Dealt with them in the past... best prices on PBT. Everything else is a huge fucking ripoff.

>>60864397
That looks like a custom one-off. Did someone make that for themselves?

>>60864381
uh I got it for around 68 bucks on massdrop
>>60864402

How reprogrammable is the Anne Pro?
Is there a list of what I can reassign keys to?

>>60864381
The keycap font is still so bad and busy though. I'm not fond of keyboards that require custom keycaps to not be ugly.

>>60864428
If you wanted cherry switches it was closer to 90 I think. I went with gateron clears just because I've never typed on a switch with an actuation force bellow 60g. Still I'm gonna replace the keycaps with some gateron cherry profile PBT so its gonna end up closer to $130

>>60864477
> gateron cherry profile PBT
where do you buy them? Ali?
Also gaterons are better though, why get cherry

>>60864493
>where do you buy them? Ali?
Also from massdrop, but they didn't come with a small right shift so I bought some CYMK modifiers from ali that did. I have a Ducky with cherry clears, and those are some of the best switches out there. Shame the only gateron made equivalent is zealios

Anybody get a hold of the standard Shine 6 yet? Looking to order one tonight.

>>60864363
>James donkey
don't see it

>>60864643
?
>http://www.gearbest.com/keyboards/pp_591295.html

>>60864655
>Full N-key Rollover for LOL
Damn those chinks. They want me to play their shitty games so badly that hardware features will exclusively work on their software.

>>60864694
Maybe because LOL is just a popular gayme?

>>60864569
duckys are overpriced

>>60866819
Nice b8

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>>60864323
I want to get in to mech keyboards and I wish to start with something cheap so I get to know the difference [I've typed on mechanical last time like 20years ago]

Now I see jamedonkey with gaterons for 37$

Can someone tell me the difference between
Red Gateron compared to membrane

I care about: Loudness[I want silent kb]
I'm not quite sure about the difference between
brown and red to membrane even after searching on google.

The only thing I found is that blue has annoying clicky sound. And people claim brown are brown because they are shit.

>>60867890
You can't really talk about mechanical switches by comparing them to rubber dome keyboards since they are fundamentally different in their mechanics.

Gateron browns are very good actually, it's cherry browns that are shit. If you want something that's silent and tactile, gateron brown is exactly what you're looking for.

>>60867965
That is great,do you have experience with gateron blacks?

I've noticed that full board has black and brown option only.

I understand that membrane and mech may feel little different
I read something weird tho.
Membrane is supposed to have about 65g actuation force and It already feels like I have to just lay my fingers on them without force.

Would not the clear/red/brown activate just by laying my hand on kb?

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It is much more comfy to write things with a lot of _ and -

>>60868059
>>60867965
So I have all the gaterons, I guess I can do a mini review:
Reds: Extremely light and easy to hit by mistake, they go down very smoothly I use it for gaming when I actually got the time to.

Blacks: Heavy handed. Smooth as well. I actually prefer to type in these and browns

Browns: Comparing it to cherry mx browns where you press it down and it sortof pushes back against you, gateron browns are practically screaming for you to let go and push back up. I will say Cherry mx has a 20% push back while the gaterons has at least a 50% push back. I prefer to type on these and these are my favorite.

Blues:I actually prefer cherry blues compared to gateron blues here. Sure gateron blues are smoother, but I notice the 5g difference in typing experience. I prefer 50g of actuation force compared to 55g.

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>>60868059
rubber domes come in all kinds of weights, so something you read on the internet is not much of a reference. No switch actuates actuates just by you putting your hand on them.

Gateron blacks are very nice. They're rather heavy, but very comfy. Though I think I'd choose browns over blacks.

>>60868209
I also agree with this guy

>>60868209

Good advice.
Having tested Cherry MX Brown i can confirm the push back is extremely light. Haven't tested the Gateron but i'm looking to (not easy in the EU).

i'm trying to find a good place to buy dsa profile keycaps. been on pimp my keyboard? amazon, mechanical keyboards, etc. just wondering if anybody could throw out some other places.

>>60868909
Aliexpress has some cheap chink DSA sets as low as 40 bucks.

>>60868909
Just want to say dsa keycaps are shit to type on. I fell for the meme and then realized that it only made the keyboard look pretty and the typing shit.

What if I want less loud MX blues but consider browns mushy shit?
Am I fucked?

>>60869525
No

>>60868209
>Blues:I actually prefer cherry blues compared to gateron blues here. Sure gateron blues are smoother, but I notice the 5g difference in typing experience. I prefer 50g of actuation force compared to 55g.
So the gaterons are heavier? I'd like that, actually. However, I heard somewhere that gateron blues are louder than MX blues, is that true? MX blues are loud enough, I really don't need it any louder.

>>60869525
Blues with O-ring.

>>60869545
I'm all ears

>>60869581
oh yeah, gateron blues are definately way louder then cherries and yes gateron blues are heavier.

>>60869525
gateron browns

>>60869585
They stop the bottom-out sound but not the click. If the bottom-out sound would be the larger part of their sound impression then people would consider e.g. brows as loud too.

>>60869596
Lubed zealios :^)
Or matias quiet click

>>60869598
>way louder
I thought that as well, but it turns out the pitch is just higher. They're both equally loud.

>>60869616
Feels a bit like a gamble as I can't test them here. I tested MX blues and browns and browns where horrible, absolutely disgusting. Blues were okay (I'd like me a tiny bit more actuation force but it was okay, green is too much).
Considering the gaterons are similar, the chance is high I hate their brows as well.

>>60869618
Want to get a Varmilo and the only options are MX and Gaterons.

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>>60869617
But anon the sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuating mechanism. That's why many people consider mechanical keyboards to be too loud.

>>60869617
Clack sound are much louder if you bottomed out hard. But not high pitch like click.

If you don't like click sound consider Cherry MX Clear or Gateron browns.

>>60869648
Cherry mx browns are notorious for feeling like stiffer reds. Gateron browns are a truer successor to the mx blues as it actually feels like blues without the click. You will feel the difference immediately.

>>60869658
I'm well aware of that and yet people don't consider damped blues as more silent than e.g. brows and there has to be a reason for that.
But whatever reason there might be, it doesn't change the outcome. Unfortunately.

>>60869629
? I have both and the gatrerons are definitely louder. There are some youtube videos that compare the sound and it is easy to spot the difference.

>>60869686
Because you could use o-ring with browns too.

>>60869700
yeah cause the pitch is higher. Loudness is the same.

>>60869686
o-rings don't effect the pitch.

>>60864377
I can't confirm but I've heard multiple sources say so, you just need a hex key.
And you're on /g/ so if you don't that's pretty shameful

>>60869038
I already have some keyboards w/ dsa profile keycaps. I quite like them I'm looking to get a set for a 108 key board that I have. To each their own.

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Why is it that when I looks for ISO 105 layouts I see most having the left ctrl be as small as the left shift? The left ctrl is slightly larger than the left shift.

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>>60870094
Example of an "ISO" 105 keyboard from WASD keyboards or whatever.

So, mechanicalkeyboards.com put my ducky one order on hold because they ran out of stock and saying they don't know when new stock arrives
Should I replace it with a FC900R? It's $20 more expensive

>>60870094
That's non standard
>>60870108
That is standard

>>60870206
You're saying Wikipedia is wrong? It's also the layout I have on my Logitech keyboard. I only wanted to know which is more available in custom keycaps and stuff.

>>60864397
i don't get why they don't flip the numpad layout horizontally, unless they've frankensteined a stock numpad pcb with a 60% pcb, assuming they use it with their left hand, because if they use their right hand a standalone numpad would be preferable

Are gateron greens a meme? Just got a pack of them and they feel a lot better than cherry blues.

>>60870108
that's more expected on a mechanical keyboard, but look at gaming keyboards like corsair/razer/logitech if you insist on ISO layout with wide ctrl

>>60870228
The WASD keyboard has a standard bottom row meaning its much easier to find keycaps for it

>>60870228
some higher priced keycap sets come with 1.5u ctrl etc but ANSI layout with 1.25u bottom row keys with 6.25u spacebar is the most common

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>>60870228
>Wikipedia is wrong
Look at the standard ISO layout. It also has a ctrl key as long as shift. Also brands like logitech and corsair use non standard layouts.

>>60870521
>Look at the standard ISO layout.
I am, your image isn't labeled as ISO, mine was. All that tells me is that it's hardly a standard.
>>60870398
>>60870428
Oh okay, so regardless of which one is correct, the smaller control is easier to find.

>>60870118
anyone?

>>60870777
>your image isn't labeled as ISO, mine was
Low quality b8
But 1.25u is the standard for bottom row modifiers.

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>>60870919
>Low quality b8
What the fuck? Just look at the site, mine has ISO under it, yours didn't.

>But 1.25u is the standard for bottom row modifiers.
For which standard? I believe it is for ANSI, but I haven't seen any proof either way for ISO.

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>>60870919
>>60870956
Your image for reference, no mention of ISO, not even in the surrounding text.

>>60870956
>>60870974
You're a moron. 1.25 is the standard for both ANSI and ISO

>>60870999
Why am I a moron, just because I (correctly) assess that there's information pointing to both 1.5 and 1.25 for CTRL for ISO? Surely you must have some conclusive evidence if you're so sure about it.

>>60871020
For the enter key:
>The ISO standard (ISO/IEC 9995-2) mandates a vertical Return key spanning two rows. The Japanese JIS standard (JIS X 6002-1980) uses the same key as ISO.
>It is often 1.25u wide. Some have a step or gap to the ']' key, but it is more common to be use that space for key surface, being 0.25u wider in the top row. This latter variation is sometimes called "J-shaped".
>The ISO enter is also known as European enter as most European standard layouts are based on the ISO layout.
For the bottom row:
>Today, national standards have been reduced to what is specific to their national layout and otherwise refer to ISO 9995

>>60871103
>For the bottom row:
>>Today, national standards have been reduced to what is specific to their national layout and otherwise refer to ISO 9995
Okay, so it's not defined. ISO 9995 only says that there has to be a control in the bottom left. ISO is a shit standard, at least for what people use it for.

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These arguments about iso key sizes are worse than the arguments about flipped spacebars, i swear every new thread is more autistic than the last

>>60871177
I just wanted to know what was the actual standard, since I assumed there was one. I'm sorry.

>>60871201
You could've just went to the ISO website and found out yourself.

>>60871221
Sure, but like I said I assumed that it was a standard for specifically control key size as well. The problem is with me assuming, but because I assumed I also didn't look for that one their site because I already had a wrong assumption in mind.

>>60871177
Got a link for this keycap set?

>>60871276
That's npkc miami which you can get on amazon

>>60868209
Can compare gateron/cherry browns to romer-g? some even say it feels like membrane. As I'm considering get one online and there is zero store nearby for me to test them, unfortunately.

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Are these model m switches capacitive or do they use a membrane?

>>60871556
model M is membrane. Model F is capacitive

>>60871556
model m's are buckling spring over membrane.

Why are greens and clears so rare? Blacks are easily included in the "common switches" as the counterparts to reds, so why are the brown and blue alternatives so rare?

>>60871556
I never noticed how autistic the spacebar row keys are. What's the reason for that? Like, what reasoning could possibly lead to a conclusion of "the keys are too wide, let's make the actual part you can press narrower"?

>>60871604
to heavy for normies

>>60871625
stability

>>60871629
But blacks aren't? They're literally 5g lighter than clears. Sure there's a difference, but is it really the difference between "people will buy this, let's make a ton" and "it's too heavy, nobody will every buy this"?

>>60871670
actuation force =/= bottom out force

>>60871709
Ah ok.

Aren't you supposed to NOT bottom out though

>>60871749
if you type at 50wpm then its possible

>>60869658
>Stealth edition
>60dB

>>60871797
>only one brown sample
>razor build quality

>>60871845
razer blues are even worse at 70dB

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I love this color and keycap shape. Anyone have it? Any good?

>>60871556
You posted this b8 yesterday.

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How long is this going to take?

Logitech master Race anyone?

>>60873305
FedEx and DHL will usually arrive in a week. It's SAL that takes a month to get anywhere.

>>60871519
The tactile bump of RomerGs is much lighter than Browns, plus it has a rough, scratchy sensation when pressing down that Cherry and its clones don't have.

>>60873976
Nice

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I want to buy pic related but it's $250 CAD. It would be shipped almost immediately though, since they've already been made and have some left over from the group buy. Would these increase in value by a good amount?

It's such a purchase to make, I can afford to buy it but I'm not sure if I should. One could buy a lot of other things with that kind of money.

Also, link for the curious: https://thekey.company/products/gb-gmk-terminal_-preorder?variant=34371456268

>>60872008

Don't have a set like that but DSA caps are quite reputable, never read a bad thing about them.

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owo what's this layout

>>60874840
minivan

>>60874642
>cherry profile
>ABS
>green colors
>$250
I don't get it. why would you want that and secondly, why would you pay that much? Absolutely insane.

I can't stand Cherry profile myself but the biggest issue with that insane price is that it's ABS.

You can buy Taiwanese Ducky OEM caps for $50 and no one will know the diff.

Are zealios worth it? I'm considering building a keyboard with 78g zealios but not sure I should since the ~200$ I'd have to spend on it would be a pretty big investment for me, only experience I've had with them was on my friends board for like 30mins, liked it a lot.

>>60874658
>Don't have a set like that but DSA caps are quite reputable, never read a bad thing about them.
DSA is the best. I've tried major ones and DSA is def the most comfy.

DSA > XDA >> OEM = Cherry >>>> SA

>>60875017
>78g
Hope you have really fat fingers because typing on that will feel like you're banging on a piece of wood after an hour or two.

>>60875050
I do.

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Ah shit /mkg/ what could it be?

>>60875415
Dragon dildo

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>>60875464
I wish, would be more fun

>pic
Hmmmmmm....

>>60875489
It's air! Wow! :DD

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Oh yeah that's right, a keyboard

>>60875517
DROPPED

>>60875517
Code?

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!WARNING!
Our keycaps will fuck your shit up, son.

Still waiting on its caps to ship.

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Accessories

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Upside down

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MX Cherry clears
TKL
Wire stabilizers though

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Comparison to a Ducky Shine 6 (blacks)

>>60875713
That's one surprised cat

>>60875713
what caps are you gonna put on it? also that cat is nice.

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help wtf did i just do

>>60875841
Nice font rendering faggot, fix your subpixel order

I'm thinking about grabbing an ErgoDox EZ.
Does anyone here have one? How durable are the feet? Any other quirks with the board itself?

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>>60875744
Memeami Dolch caps with Miami dolch cable. I'll be using this generic ducky cap set in the meantime

>>60875713
nice rock

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>mfw I just bought a full set of 80g Gateron greens for a B.Mini

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>>60875974
Yeah gf brought it in, I think she was gonna paint it or something. Haven't bothered to toss it back outside.

Kitty wasn't too impressed with the kb I think.

Looking to get into mechanical keyboards, what's a good black cherry mx keyboard?

>>60875874
:(

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Supervising me

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And done. I'm actually liking the feel of the clears. Like the blacks but without the sketchiness and added tactile feel.

I can't help to feel like I'm missing something though... can't put my finger on it.

Has anyone made a PCB with a layout like Lenovo's, i.e. with fn, control, win, and alt to the left of the space bar?

>>60876199
G80-3000

What's the cheapest programmable 60%?
I need something with media keys.

>>60877066
tada68

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I love the Ducky Pocket, but I wish it was waterproof. Luckily Khail has come to the rescue!

I like the form factor of the poker, but should i get the 2, the 'new' 2 or the 3?

I bought the magicforce with browns as my first mech. Did I fuck up?

>>60874642
don't

>>60877349
tada68

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>>60877358
no you're good

look at keycaps if you want an upgrade

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Blank-side-printed-Cherry-Profile-Thick-PBT-Keycap-ANSI-ISO-layout-For-Cherry-MX-Switches/32807123075.html

>>60877476
I ordered some NPKC caps, but they're cherry profile, not oem. does that matter?

I'm thinking of getting a keyboard for my office.

What do you guys think of the Topre Realforce 87u 55g? I'm going to be using it mainly for coding.

>>60877512
not really. people usually prefer cherry profile if anything

>>60877569
That's a pretty big meme. But if you wanted a memebrane keyboard why not go all out and get a μTRON

>>60877579
So do you think Topre's are basically Placeboards?

HHKB pro 2 for 120
Yay or nay?

>>60877625
link? wanna check if it's fake.

>>60877476
>>60877512
I thought all npkc caps were all laser printed. That is a deal breaker for me.

>>60877801
you can get them blank, top or front printed

>>60877735
Its on 5 miles, which surprised me

>>60877625
>>60877735
He's also selling a white 55g uniform realforce 87U for $160

>>60877871
>>60877834
go for it!

My Leopold FC980M arrived today and it feels fucking great.

>>60868209
Nice review

I wonder how do they feel after clicking,i read something about brown pushing you up,that sounds bad for games where you hold W a lot[all fps] or did I misunderstand

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>>60878642
This picture made me pay 13$ less for ugly full keyboard instead of going with the cute 60% one with barely any buttons and then being forced to buy more buttons like you did.

I wanted the bottom one[ Obins Anne Pro for 60$ red switch]
I will go the top one[JamesDonkey 619 full 47$]with browns because most ppl here reccomend it and I lack my own experience with them.

I wish chinks were more honest about switches used. I rarely can confirm that something is gateron/cherry.

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>>60878887
>forced
>not wanting a qt moveable numpad/macro pad

>>60878910
I do like your cables tho
in very heterosexual way
your table is lil dirty.
Are the cables custom or it comes like that?

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>>60878948
they were custom, got 'em from Mimic Cables.
I've since switched to straight braided cables, as the coils don't keep their shape very well.

>>60878887
>falling for the fullsize meme
shiggy doo

aliexpress listings tend to be legit. as long as the switches have the gateron/cherry branding they're almost certainly genuine.

>>60878910
when do plan to start to elevate cables and use crystals?

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>>60879088
I mean problem is not when there is "gateron"
problem is when there is 100% mechanical rgb keyboard
Or 100% james donkey
or 100% very good switches
or 100% mechanical switches
or anything of that sort that holds almost 0 informational value.

It is also impossible to google original manufacturer,websites are either broken or do not exist at all.

Gearbeast is worst offender,only 4 keyboards tell you what switch type is inside.

One of them claims to have both "kailh and gateron" and I do not mean 1 part gateron 1part kalith no... It is 100% gateron and 100% kailh at once!!!

Do not even try to ask support or seller
they will tell you bullshit like pic related.

This mech hobby is very hard,I will collect pokemon cards instead...

>>60879192
here it says gateron tho?

http://www.gearbest.com/keyboards/pp_591295.html

with pokemon cards you have actual fakes to worry about

>>60879121
just as soon as you enroll into English 201 classes.

james donkey 612: kailh
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/James-Donkey-612-Ergonomic-USB-Wired-104-Keys-Anti-ghosting-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-with-Backlit-for/2653196_32763842041.html

james donkey 619: gateron
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/James-Donkey-619-Gaming-Keyboard-104keys-Gateron-Switches-USB-Wired-Yellow-Backlight-Mechanical-Keyboard-for-Mac/2653196_32794636050.html

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>>60864377
https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=89174.0

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Are there any side print keycaps that don't let the led shine through the top of them?

>>60879305
even the thick ones might shine through at least the ones that are white

you could mod them like this to block the light

https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=66567.0

bought lets split v2 parts with gateron clears, how badly did i fuck up?
also, @ortholinearbros, how much did it take you to get used to it?

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>>60864323
Is there some recommended chink o-ring seller or anything goes? Gearbeast has none and aliexpress many.

>>60879323
I might have too. Feels wonky to tape the inside if my caps. But could be worse.

>>60879373
2mm thick 70A o-rings work great for me

not sure where the 1.5mm thick 40A-50A meme came from. a lot of people think they're too mushy and not thick enough.

pick 9x2mm (5mm inner diameter, 9mm outer diameter, 2mm thickness)
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100Pcs-Black-O-Type-Sealing-Rubber-Ring-Gaskets-5-6-7-8-9-10-2-MM/32723844616.html

>>60879407
you can simply buy black perma color that is used for paintings and paint inside.
It will not shine thru that
It is nicer solution but effect is the same

>>60879462
70A is really common btw you can probably find them at your local hardware store. i'm guessing the 40A meme was invented by people who wanted to sell them specifically for keyboards at a marked up price

>>60879510
I can not even buy audio cable or thermal pasta at my local hw stores [and there are 6 of them just 100m from my home]

I gotta travel to another city for pretty mucha anything.

You can expect to pay 10 times the internet price in nearest town.

So all that is left for me are chinks :^)

>>60870373
Way louder

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>>60864323
I'm about to fall for mech meme with James Ass 104key gateron brown kb for 47you'r

>Wild shipping methods appeared.

Netherlands Registered
10-25 business days €0.00

Europe Railway Priority Mail
35-40 business days€0.00

I've never seen railway option in my life.
Would you reccomend it?
If It could decrease chance for it to get caught by customs control then I'd go for it.

If this get caught I gotta pay almost 20$ more :^)

I'm already getting jewed with insurance

Also thank you all for telling me more about switches.

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Just bought this Ducky One with Cherry MX Red switches.

>>60879680
Good looking kb how much did u pay.
I would use brown or pink switches tho.

>>60864397

>not ortholinear

Disgusting.

Please leave.

>>60864426
It's 'The 'Monarch'. A custom Alps keyboard.

https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=75786.0

>>60879765
>ortholinear
>on a non-split keyboard
eww

>>60879859

My ideal layout is a split 1800 with detachable numpad.

>>60879997
That doesn't sound like it would save all that much right-hand space when detached, in addition to the arrow keys making for a pointy protrusion.

>>60880059

Not a lot of space, but mainly for balance on my small desk.

>>60879997
So the VE.A with a standalone numpad

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ordered leopold 750, did I do good /g/?

>>60880458

VE.A isn't ortholinear, it is trash.

>>60880475
No,Drevo Gramr would be higher quality choice.
Just do not go for the Jamie donky ,chinks are shilling it here.

>>60880479
I got it for ~$110, so I think it offsets quality complaint.

>>60880475
yes

>>60875032
Cherry types the best, but dsa looks the beat and isnt that much worse. I'm using dsa now.

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>>60864323
Are the black gaterons fake?
I see some cheap gateron keyboards to use black version but when i search for gateron switches online they are always clear/white
so is there some difference except color?

both have the "Gateron" marking and both are for example clicky blue. But one "housing" or how is it called,is black/clear whiteish

Maybe it is just my racism kicking in

>>60880706
That's just older iterations of gaterons, the production runs used to have that milky housing.

>>60880706
nobody cares nerd

What kind of switch should i get to ensure the stems do not snap when I place my keyboard unprotected into my backpack?

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>>60880813
I'm not nerd, I watch supergirl series.
>>60880765
Thank you for information,I kinda like the old whites more but I will not see them under cover anyway :^)

>>60880858
Membrane or buy cover and get gate browns or cherry red.

>>60880867
Yeah, I also prefer the look of the milky ones, no idea why they changed it.

>>60880765
i think he's asking about the black housing

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>>60880891
there's no gaterons with fully black housing, only the bottom is black.

The switch with the black housing in his picture is a cherry switch, you can see it on the housing.

>>60880858
maybe just put it in some kind of bag or case?
seems worthwhile protecting it

Typing numbers using the number row is so fucking terrible, and blanks make it even worse. I assume that's something you get used to over time, which is taking a while considering I only ever type numbers for passwords.

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>>60880974
>only ever type numbers for passwords.
do you love being bruteforced

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>>60880932
I'm so confused now.

>>60864323
Does anyone know where to find a decent full backlit cherry MX blue keyboard but with flat keycaps?

>>60881083
WASD barebones + G20

>>60880974
password are the easiest for me to touch type even though i don't type them that often. touch typing the number row gets better over time although i still haven't quite perfected it. i suppose you could practice it by putting in custom text with numbers on keybr.com

>>60880932
Fuck off spamming in every thread. Your keyboards are mediocre at best and your knowledge is equivelant to that of a 12 year old geekhack user.

>>60881017
They do have black housings. Ignore that seidensemen fag

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>>60881017
Humm, I can't say that I've ever heard or seen of gaterons with black housing, but maybe gateron changed something recently. Or the chinks are making gateron knockoffs, which would be pretty hilarious.

>>60881272
make me you crybaby

>>60881326
>recently
They've always made switches in black, milky or black bottom/transparent top options. It depends on what the keyboard manufacturer orders.

>>60881350
Cheers.

While we're at it, there isn't any store that sells those black housing switches is there?

>>60881091
Thanks

>>60881083
>>60881508

Might be able to find a cheap backlit chink mechanical, but they use ripoff switches and look like shit. WASD is pretty solid build quality and looks great. I recommend MX Greens. Closest you will get to the glorious buckling springs.

For keycaps also take a look at DSA (from Signature Plastics/Pimp My Keyboard) and XDA(XDA milestone in particular).

>>60881574
>Closest you will get to the glorious buckling springs.

Closest you ever get to finger amputation is more accurate.

If you can not try greens before buy,just go with browns it is safest.

>>60881616

The browns on my Filco are so nasty and mushy.

I'd recommend pretty much anything else first.

>>60881627
Well maybe you got some fakes.
My browns outlasted blues and reds in feel.
I never used black ones but I heard they are pretty good.

I do remember good'ol buckling times.I hated it. I had to take break after typin' something long from how much it hurts fingers.

Maybe I just had shit model.Can not really remember model number.

>>60881574
I think I've found a good set of keycaps, but WASD doesn't have bare backlit keyboards, and none of heir backlit keyboards are the size I want

>>60877815
??? Of course you can, but if you get it Top "LASER" Printed you can feel all the keys.

>>60881361
You were wrong you fucking dumbass.

>>60882363
then get dye sub or double shot

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>>60882413
I'm aware of that.

>>60882421
npkc does not use dye sub or doubleshot for their legends.... Read the previous threads that led up to that point kid.

>>60882509
then get something other than npkc if you want top printed keys faggit

>>60882509
Vortex has all sorts of different doubleshot keycaps

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Got the soarers converter off ebay and it works perfect with my model m, 60 percent with reds for gaming and 122 key for schoolwork is the true combo

>>60882686
Thanks for the recommendation
>>60882536
Fuck off you are useless to everyone here

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Can somebody explain the benefits of a mechanical keyboard?

Is this just a new way to rice?

>>60883572
It's an old way to type, new way to rice

>>60883572
feels good to type on. If you have a coding job or a office job that just requires alot of typing, it feels good to use a keyboard that feels good to type on. There are three variants. One that makes your keyboard sound like a semi-typewriter and pushes back against you when you type. One that makes little noise, but pushes back against your fingers. One that goes straight up and down.

Membrane keyboards, you cannot feel your keys go down and it just feels like you are constantly typing on some thick liquid gel. Mechanical keyboards, you can feel the keys go up and down and yes it leaves you satisfied. You can also rice the keyboards as well. The sound makes you feel like you are making progress.

There is my autistic post of the week. I need to fill my quota.

>>60883572
It's mostly overall typing feel and the selection of switch types to choose from. Personally I feel quicker and less fatigued typing on a mechanical keyboard.

>>60879305
>>60879323
>>60879407
>>60879466
Thick wall-ed keycaps are generally considered to be best. I also prefer opaque keycaps.
Would a thicker opaque paint applied to the under side improve keycap thickness and solid tone when pressed?
Could a small amount of opaque paint be poured into the keycap, tape be applied to the keycap base and then dispersed evenly simply by shaking the keycap?
Would silver or white be better?

Also, I do realize the levels of autism focused on the minutia of keycaps but compare this to coworkers using their keyboard 40 hours a week without ever considering this at all. t can't be wrong to go into the fridge and fart on their lunch.

>>60884011
this would be highly experimental but i think if you pour in the right kind of material to add some weight to a thin keycap you might improve the feel. it would probably be easier to just buy a cheapish thick pbt keycap set though.

>>60883572
they do not die, buy one that lasts you forever

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Keyboard sleeves 4 sale

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Time to shill (jk)

PBT caps + numpad is actually great. I shared my Vortex set with my roommate's Ducky One.

Mfw i want a Pocket now... Or probably a MagiForce numpad

>>60884908
Fml

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>>60882442
>tripfaggot
>falls for fads easily
>full-on autism
why am I not surprised?

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>>60885107
I dunno anon, I'm not surprised either.

Though I'm not very impressed with this thing for fidgeting purposes, all you can do is spin it. There's no interesting tactile sensation or screws to turn, it's pretty boring as far as toys go.

Anyone here have a Saber 68 with the MOD-M switches (tactile or linear)? How is it? I'm thinking of getting a tactile one with the aluminum case mod.

>>60884667
How sure are you about that,even the 50$ gateron chink one will last for few years?

>>60885233
Unless you fuck up terribly and spill water in it or do anything to damage the pcb, your keyboard will continue to work. Lights and shit may go awry but it will still type of 2 generations.

>>60885483
>for 2 generations
I was at aliexpress and my fucking grammar got lost there.

>>60884011
Just fill them with a clear epoxy resin if you're going to try it. Be sure to fill the post hole with something to prevent resin from entering.

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>>60864323
How to make custom kb cheaply?
Assuming I have one already,that means I have switches internals screws,solder etc.

I seen that parts cost more than whole keyboards,would be nice to get some goot web recommendation.

I also own 3d printer if that is any help.

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d-dont bully

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>>60885706
design a case and print it

t. also own a 3D printer

>>60885706
Just go on the /mkg/ telegram if you want more help. All the losers on here don't know shit about keyboards. They just circle jerk about the chink shit they bought to justify their buyers remorse

>>60885706
What's left if you leave out all the internals and older keyboard stuff?

>>60885807
that is not bad
arrow keys check
no meme color scheme check
I dislike the font but it is still one of better ones.

I mean for 50$ you paid it is real nice.

>>60878948
>>60879006

>coil cable

Yeah, they're pretty much a disaster. I bought the same one from Mimic, it was a desperate struggle to keep it coiled. Eventually tried to straighten it, ended up with a really long cable with a tendency to turn slightly. Would not recommend

If I'd want tactile non clicky switches, what choices do I have
>MX Browns feel like shit
>MX Clears are better than browns, but heavier
>Gateron Browns are very good, but harder to find than Cherry
>no Gateron to match MX Clears
is that right ? Don't know shit about anything, this is what I got from couple threads and some searching online

>>60885950
sad to hear that
I really dig the looks
it is kinda cute in these light colors.

>>60885972
>>Gateron Browns are very good, but harder to find than Cherry
Gateron browns are verry common. Magicforce on amazon, James donkey on gearbest, and tada68 on aliexpress all have them
>>no Gateron to match MX Clears
There is, but its too complicated

>>60885972
Gateron browns are not hard to find anymore at all,even the budget keyboards have them.

you can buy 70 for like 25$ so for example buy chink keyboard with metal plate that you like
and change switches to brown.

I did reverse thing,bought brown gaterons and I will replace WSAD keys for something else,maybe blacks.

>>60886015
>>60886014
Isn't replacing switches hard ? I thought it required resoldering and shit (I know everyone should know how to do that, but we don't live in a perfect world)
Also, don't seem to find any gaterons locally, but I guess ordering online was always my only choice in mech keyboards anyway
>go to local electronics shop(washing machines, fridges, keyboards, mice, basically everything for regular people) wondering if I might find a mech keyboard on display to try out at least some kind of switches
>there's only some Razer keyboard that uses proprietary switches

>>60886015
Also is the tactile bump really so bad for gaming, since you're replacing WASD

>>60886092
It is hobby,I love to game on browns but you will want to try something fresh after time.
To buy new kb is opinion,but poor bastard like me can just swap keycaps/switches/cable and do paint job .

Browns are actually underestimated for gaming.

>>60886285
Well that gives some peace, what about this >>60886058
is changing switches somehow easier than I thought ?

>>60886309
depends. If there is no mounting plate then you don't need to desolder the switches

>>60886373
Hm? You'll probably need to desolder the switches regardless of whether they're attached to a plate or not. The few keyboards with removable switches are usually labeled as such, e.g. this chinkshit: https://www.amazon.com/E-Element-Mechanical-Water-Resistant-Swappable-Anti-Ghosting/dp/B01K3Y04N0

>>60875536
Code boxes are white and say Code on then, not WASD

>Budget
Let's keep this flexible, I'd want to buy a quality product that I will use for a long time, but no nonsense like >200$
No very cheap chinkshit too, but of course lower price is better than higher price
>Location
Europe, Lithuania
>Switch type
Gateron Browns
>Layout
ANSI
>FF
100%, extra keys not needed, but can be there
>Backlight
I would prefer yes, but not necessary
>Previous/current
Logitech K120, no real experience with mechanical keyboards
I know this is very broad but basically what I want is a mid-high quality full keyboard with gateron browns and possibly backlight, that is available to Europe, from Europe
Also, would I make a huge mistake if I'd get DAS 4 with MX Browns, DAS Keyboards seem to be high quality, but only offer mx blues and browns(afaik)

>>60880877
>>60880963
Where can I find a 65% sized bad or case?
I could probably scavenge something mildly adequate around the house but I'd be much more satisfied with something keyboard-shaped and keyboard-sized.

>>60886753
Ducky if you want the hardware and software features, full size magicforce if you want something cheap with good build quality, or Leopold if you want the build quality

>Budget
Up to 100-130€, can take a look at cheaper chink options, if they're there
>Location
EU
>Switch type
Browns, can take Reds if they aren't possible
>Layout
Anything goes
>FF
TKL, was thinking full size, but decided I don't use the numpad that often
>Backlight
Yes, preferably blue or rgb option for solid blue
>Current
25€ rubber one

>Extras
Minimalistic chassis design, audio passthrough would be nice to have, but isn't a necessity

>>60887154
Out of those 3, only magicforce seems to offer gaterons

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fuck nice things

Are MX Clears better than Browns ? Would MX Clear feel good enough ?

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wag1. where can i get caps like these

>>60887154
>>60887387
Also does magicforce offer only one full keyboard? I only seem to find the same keyboard but with different switches, not that it's bad, but I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything, since they don't exactly show up on google too easily

>>60887529
pmk is the only places that sells them

>>60878642
>>60878910
what boards?

>>60887872
Its those Duck custom keyboards. The viper and butterfly I think

Does anyone know if you can add LEDs to the Ducky One dkon1508f? Is it the same PCB as the 1508S?

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>>60886753
>Browns
>>60887217
>Browns
Why do dumb newfags fall for this meme? Is there some normie site that recommends this shit or something? I bet there's some guide or blog that recommends people who are new to mech kbs to buy that shit because it doesn't do anything well and might resemble some OEM keyboard or something.

What a waste of money.

>>60887602
just fuck me up

>>60888789
what exactly do you like about it? it's just your run-of-the mill color scheme with some accented keys thrown in. you can buy these few extra orange keys for $10-15 max.

keycap shape and material used is your regular shit tho.

>>60888706
Every normie guide I've seen has some variation of "if you're unsure, get browns as they're the middle ground and the safest choice". All of them completely neglect to mention that the "middle ground" isn't the best of all worlds, but rather the worst.

>>60888835
does the font have a name?

>>60876384
nice cat anon :)

>>60878583
Gat and Cherry browns are very light switches both at 45g. Therefore they have a very light return force which makes them good for holding keys down for an extended period (like in gaming).

I have cherry browns and love how light they are, it feels like you just glide across them when typing.

>>60889177
FF DIN

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>>60885807

>>60885914
>I mean for 50$ you paid it is real nice.
he could have gotten a much better set for $50. and it would have been PBT too. not to mention that OEM profile he picked is pleb-tier shit.

>>60885807
>>60885914
Wait that shit is $50!
well whatever its your money

>>60889126
yeah i would never buy browns without first having tried them at a store or using a switch tester

>>60871556
that one is the capacitive model f version judging by the shape of some of the bottom keys im guessing

>>60890959
you can tell by the cross shaped arrow keys and the function row keys

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>>60891017
the model m version also has the cross shaped arrow keys
i have one

>Budget
I would like to stay under $100 but I see that may not be possible for what I'm looking for
>Location (continent at least)
Burgerland
>Preferred switch type
Cherry MX browns
>Layout
Full
>Form factor
Uh, American.
>Backlight
As long as it doesn't look like a boring office rubber dome board it's not important but I kind of like subtle backlights
>Previous/current keyboards
Rubber dome shit.

Looking for something that isn't ugly and not too expensive.

>>60891206
Just get an American made keyboard instead of that commie shit

>>60891206
https://www.amazon.com/QuickFire-Mechanical-Keyboard-ActivLite-Technology/dp/B00JM61264

Are Corsair k70s any good?

>>60891363
no

>>60881326
do you have some blog or gallery with all your projects? I would like to see them all

>>60891417
he does its
>>>/g/mkg

>>60891394
What's the alternative?

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>>60891538
Ducky and Cooler Master are great mid range keyboards. If you want something cheaper there are a few Costar boards that go on sale for 60 bucks like the Rosewill 9000v2

>>60891394
What's wrong with it

How much trouble would it be to build a custom xd64 by ordering all the parts from taobao?
Anyone who's done the build before know how much it costs?

>>60891580
That's fucking sexy.

>>60891538
what do you want out of your keyboard?
what is your price range?

I'm not the other poster, but I do not think corsair is worth the premium they charge. Their products are great at giving the illusion of quality, while usually having awful durability.

>>60891602
Too expensive for the features that they offer. In the last thread someone spent close to $220 for one, while a Cooler Master keyboard with the same features and better build quality was 80 bucks less

>>60891624
I'm looking for a simple, -stylish- full keyboard for 80-120 dollars.
No autism shit like model M's, I'll actually have girls around it.

>>60891538
if you don't care about a numpad:
goo dot gl/fqz60M
youtu.be/r40q0U_qLiU

in case you haven't heard, gaterons are superior to their german originals

>>60891690
Whats wrong with the Cooler Master that was recommended. The RGB version is $20 over your budget, but the version with a white backlight $99

>>60885807
what keycaps

>>60891690
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DKXXABK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T2_TAkqzbX86W3HE

tinder sluts will flush out their tampons when they see this badboy on your desk

>>60891732
Yeah, I'm interested, what about the Masterkeys L? What's my opinion on that?

>>60891845
>What's my opinion on that?
tell me. I can't read minds

>>60891896
What's YOUR opinion that?

>>60891941
Simple slip ups are pretty common. If they occur more often then you'd like it could be a sign of a more deep rooted mental problem.

>>60891538
Buy a Ducky Zero. It's a high-quality board for like $80.

>>60891978
[spoiler] it wasn't a slipup I wanted you to program my opinon[/spoiler]

>>60891845
>fullsize
shiggy diggy doo

>>60891690
girls like mini keyboards

some fag posted a new thread without linking it

>>60892217