/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! Come and join http://sourcemage.org/

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Need help understanding Linux permissions:

>cool_dir is owned by root:cool_group
>cool_dir has 770 permissions
>anon is a member of cool_group
>anon can't access cool_dir

why

Halp, why cant I login my user on debian? Everytime I login the login screen just restart

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>>60859451

>>60859451
not cool enough

Reminder that dynamic windows managers are perfect and stacking and tiling windows managers are inferior.

>>60859476
It's most likely that Xorg is failing to start for some reason. Might be related to graphics drivers, might be related to the Xorg configuration.

>>60859479
what did she mean by this

>>60859504
How can I fix this only by the terminal? I'm kinda new on Linux, and I asking here because I dont want to fuck shit up

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>>60859495

>>60859479
Install Mozilla?

?what's the best book for gitting gud at linux? i've used it for years, but the places i'm applying to want you to have in-depth knowledge of it?

>>60859524
Run this in the terminal and see what kind of garbage ends up in the

startx.log

file (pro tip: it'll all look like garbage, but the error will be at the very end):

startx > $HOME/startx.log 2>&1

>>60859527
But it's true, it can do both floating and tiling without limitations.

>>60859524
Arch wiki=>Xorg.

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hello how do I install a new kernel in gentoo?
the wiki don't make no gotdamn sense

I ran genkernel but I'm still using the same kernel that I compile when I made the gentoo, how do i get the new kernel

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>>60859557
I am currently reading this. It's huge and covers a fuckton of commands and things.

>>60859495
What's a dynamic wm?

>>60859655
>fourth edition
>20th anniversary edition
MAKE UP YOUR MINDS DAMN IT

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>>60859557
The Linux Command Line by William Shots

And you're probably gonna want the Red Hat Study guide for when you get your certs. You are planning on getting Red Hat certs, aren't you?

>>60859659
Window managers that can dynamically switch between tiling or floating window layout. Awesome and dwm are two very well known ones.

>>60859655
Just got it on gen.lib.rus.ec
Thank you senpai.

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>>60859557
>>60859655
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

>>60859413
Is there any character, unicode or otherwise, that when pasted will mess up the formatting of a tty or pty?

I want to poison the "bad password" string on a web application to make it difficult to enter into hydra.

Any ideas?

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>>60859750
>grymoire

>>60859451
Did anon remember to log out and back in after adding himself to cool_group?

>>60859569
Thanks bro, I figured out what can I do now

>>60859885
Complete relogin? I reconnected to the ssh, is that no enough?

How can I resize Linux partitions on Windows without losing any data?

>>60859924
Yes, any time you add or remove yourself from groups you must log out and log back in for changes to take effect.

>>60859800
nvm, apparently binary files will do the trick

>>60859924
That should be enough. Anyway run "groups", if it's in the output you're good.

Check permissions for parent directories too. It's not enough to have permissions on /install/gentoo if you don't have them on /install.

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>>60859840
http://www.grymoire.com/magic.html

[232158.464344] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronizing SCSI cache
[232158.464443] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Synchronize Cache(10) failed: Result: hostbyte=0x01 driverbyte=0x00

Everytime I unplug my external drive it shows this.

Basically the problem revolves around linux write cache. If I disable writecache with sdparm/hdparm this error wouldn't show up.
Linux defaults "write cache:on" for external drives. Some drives without write cache won't show this error.

What am I missing here?

>>60859976
>Anyway run "groups", if it's in the output you're good.
It's in there.

>Check permissions for parent directories too.
I own and am currently in the parent directory.

I dunno, it's too late for this shit. I'll come back to this tomorrow.
Good night.

>>60860008
Nothing.You unplugged it,it cant write the cache back

>>60859427
>smgl
>smug
>smug linux
cool
>only GPL
are there non-free repos?

>>60860019
Isn't it harmful?

>>60860019
Not if he has a can of condensed air....

Is wayland usable?

>>60860053
Yes,are you not unmounting it before hand?

>>60860008
man sync

>>60860076
Maybe in 20 years

>>60860032
the z-rejected grimoire

How to install something to root of a usb stick if it doesn't auto-mount?

If I plug it in, and mount /dev/sdb1 (drive is called /dev/sdb and has a "partition (?) /dev/sdb1 as I can see after plugging in, using lsblk) to /mnt and then install files to /dev/sdb1, will those files be in the root-directory?

(Usually drives will automount and show up along task-bar, and in file-manager, but this one doesn't)

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>

# qemu-system-x86_64 -m 1024 /dev/sda

MIND McFUCKING BLOWN!!!

>>60860193
now you know how to install distros without a USB or CD

>>60860077
Error would still appear even if I have'nt mounted the drive.
I'm tired of doing sdparm --set WCE=0 /dev/sdx and IIRC it's quite dangerous if I ran the command while the drive is mounted.

>>60860213
No, it wouldnt because nothing would be writing to it because you unmounted that partition.Meaning there would be no write cache because it has already been flushed when you unmounted

>>60860212
Or just use chroot and bind mounts like a sane person.

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>>60860244
yeah

>>60859413
why do I always see fagget when glancing at the title
is it just me?

>>60860234
Like I said the error is still there unless I turn WCE off. Turning WCE off while the drive is mounted can kill the drive.

>>60860008
sync before unplugging. Basically "safely remove" drive

>>60860008
Maybe your drive reports wrong things to the kernel. It happened to me once.
Try setting the cache to write through:
echo 'temporary write through' | sudo tee /sys/class/block/sdb/device/scsi_disk/<bunch of numbers - just press tab>/cache_type

I think it can be automated through udev rules but I never got around to do it and I don't have the offending drive anymore either.

in the default image viewer for LXDE, when browsing through photos within that image viewer, is there a way for it to sort by date?

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>>60860418
anime girl for attention

>>60859413
>external hdd drive parks its head after being idle
Load_Cycle_Count = 40983
Spin_Up_Time = 2605 hours

How do I unfuck this?
linux sucs

>>60860508
I also think the culprit here is USB autosuspend.

Okay /g/,

I'm an sysadmin that's currently still stuck on botnetOS 10, I know the basics of Linux but whenever I'm using Linux I keep distrohopping. I'm mostly just virtualising test labs writing essays and using RDP/VNC what distro do you guys advise me? (VM support is very important!)

Also, what kind of programs should I use for virtualising and writing essays on Linux?

Please show me the ways of gnu/linux.

-

>>60861025
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zpgQpdy_fI

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>>60861025

>>60861025
Probably OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Fedora.
They both have recent packages (Tumbleweed is rolling) which means you get the most recent KVM improvements first.
I used both as my daily driver (also a sysadmin) and I never had any problem with them.
Fedora is slightly more stable but OpenSUSE has great integration with BTRFS snapshots so you can always boot from a stable one if update fucks up.

>>60861338
>OpenSUSE Tumbleweed or Fedora
no

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Does Broadcom wifi have good support in Linux?
I need to buy a half mini pcie wifi card with bluetooth 4.0 and would rather stay away from the intel kikes.

I'm using mate desktop with paper icons because I like how they look for the most part. But I don't like the paper icons for the notification icons in the mate panel, such as volume, battery, network connections, etc. Is there a way to force just these to use the icons from the numix icon pack, which I prefer?

can makemkv-libaacs decode newer blurays?

To the guys that answered me previously.
Vim is kinda neat, I'm already starting to like it.

>>60861467
Broadcom is absolutely the worst choice you can make when it comes to wlan cards.

Your best bet is Qualcomm Atheros made chips.
Ath9k driver is free as in freedom and is one of the things recommended to change in your newly purchased GNU/Linux chinkpad.

>>60861653
>Broadcom is absolutely the worst choice you can make when it comes to wlan cards.
this.
their drivers are neither free (like atheros) nor work properly (like intel and atheros)

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>>60861653
>>60861687
Wooo thanks guys you saved me.
I was about to pull the trigger since Broadcom was so cheap.

>>60861467
I'm relatively new in linux
I'd recommend you atheros too
My 4352 onboard not too bad but those conflicts with any other wireless drivers pissing me off
And when I was even noober than now I had problems with wicd\network-manager on debian :( Disconnects every ~4 hours for no reason
Now I'm using gentoo and wpa supplicant with no disconnections but there is no monitor mod and loading ath9k for 722n still pretty annoying

I've been using Arch as my first distro for about 3 months now, but I'm thinking of switching to BunsenLabs or regular Debian. As it stands my Arch setup is pretty hacked together and I don't know exactly what I'm doing. Is it going to be a huge pain in the ass updating and installing things like mpv, etc on a non rolling release distribution? -Syu is so simple and convenient.

>>60861467
Google the model number + linux and Bing,you got your answer

>>60861922
>mpv, etc on a non rolling release distribution
Yes,expect to have multi years old packages in your main repo

Just use arch.

>>60861922
Install gentoo
Rly

>>60861937
I know that, I mean how hard is it to install things that aren't in the main repo, or even compile? If I use Arch, all my software is up to date, but I have to spend weeks setting everything up. If I use Debian, the software isn't up to date and I have to set it up but the base operating system itself is all taken care of from the start.

>>60862013
>the base operating system
pacstrap base
Done.
You'd do the same amount of editing on either side,they all have the standard config given to them by upstream.

>>60862013
>I have to spend weeks setting everything up
the fuck

I'm trying to get a nice chromebook to either use crouton or just debian with. Anyone know if the Dell Chromebook 11 or 13 has a replaceable SSD? And would you recommend crouton or pure linux?

>>60862095
>eplaceable SSD?
google

>>60862095
>pure linux
thats gonna be hard to work with

I think I need /g/'s help
Why the fuck can't I resize my root partition? Gparted simply shows that there are no free space, when there is

>>60862285
>gparted
-_\

>GNU
nothing that couldn't be patched away

https://git.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/commit/trunk?h=packages/grub&id=f232691e4d49e0073e4c0807fcc41cb242c1e595

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/33393

>>60862756
inane

What's the best wm?

>>60862887
fluxbox

>>60862887
What do you want on a wm? Check http://www.xwinman.org

I use is Ratpoison myself, no frills, no bloat, all practical.

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>>60859427

>>60862887
arch linux

>>60859413
cross posting from /sqt/ since I think this thread might be more helpful:

Is there any hardware/firmware difference between the XPS 13 Developer Edition and the non Developer Edition? I found a good deal on the non dev edition, but I want to be able to install Ubuntu on it without running into any weird problems that linux tends to have on laptops that don't have 100% linux compatible parts.

I don't know C, but a program I want to use is only 50 lines of code. How long would it take me to quickly get the gist of C so I could verify it was not malicious?

>>60863400
If you already know how to program, maybe a few months. If you don't know how to program, a few years.

>>60863400
can you post the source here?

>>60859640
Update the grub config

I think it's
>mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.conf

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>>60863429

>>60863430

/* TinyWM is written by Nick Welch <[email protected]> in 2005 & 2011.
 *
 * This software is in the public domain
 * and is provided AS IS, with NO WARRANTY. */

#include <X11/Xlib.h>

#define MAX(a, b) ((a) > (b) ? (a) : (b))

int main(void)
{
    Display * dpy;
    XWindowAttributes attr;
    XButtonEvent start;
    XEvent ev;

    if(!(dpy = XOpenDisplay(0x0))) return 1;

    XGrabKey(dpy, XKeysymToKeycode(dpy, XStringToKeysym("F1")), Mod1Mask,
            DefaultRootWindow(dpy), True, GrabModeAsync, GrabModeAsync);
    XGrabButton(dpy, 1, Mod1Mask, DefaultRootWindow(dpy), True,
            ButtonPressMask|ButtonReleaseMask|PointerMotionMask, GrabModeAsync, GrabModeAsync, None, None);
    XGrabButton(dpy, 3, Mod1Mask, DefaultRootWindow(dpy), True,
            ButtonPressMask|ButtonReleaseMask|PointerMotionMask, GrabModeAsync, GrabModeAsync, None, None);

    start.subwindow = None;
    for(;;)
    {
        XNextEvent(dpy, &ev);
        if(ev.type == KeyPress && ev.xkey.subwindow != None)
            XRaiseWindow(dpy, ev.xkey.subwindow);
        else if(ev.type == ButtonPress && ev.xbutton.subwindow != None)
        {
            XGetWindowAttributes(dpy, ev.xbutton.subwindow, &attr);
            start = ev.xbutton;
        }
        else if(ev.type == MotionNotify && start.subwindow != None)
        {
            int xdiff = ev.xbutton.x_root - start.x_root;
            int ydiff = ev.xbutton.y_root - start.y_root;
            XMoveResizeWindow(dpy, start.subwindow,
                attr.x + (start.button==1 ? xdiff : 0),
                attr.y + (start.button==1 ? ydiff : 0),
                MAX(1, attr.width + (start.button==3 ? xdiff : 0)),
                MAX(1, attr.height + (start.button==3 ? ydiff : 0)));
        }
        else if(ev.type == ButtonRelease)
            start.subwindow = None;
    }
}

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>>60863462
>TinyWM

>>60863505
What is there to complain about?

>>60863462
>just simple X api functions
>no files or sockets opened
>no kind of fancy memory fuckery
>no magic constants

you're safe

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Matthias Klumpp has announced the release of Tanglu 4.0 which carries the code name "Dasyatis". The Debian-based distribution was in development for longer than expected which Klumpp addresses in the release announcement: "Tanglu 4 comes - due to being frozen for far too long - without the latest and greatest packages, but still with some notable changes. The KDE Plasma version is at 5.8, while the GNOME desktop is available in version 3.20 with some pieces from GNOME 3.22. The KDE Plasma design was updated with some suggestions from KDE designers at Akademy last year. Tanglu is a fully usrmerged system by default now, with no option to switch back to split-/usr or opt-in option (like in previous releases). Additionally, we support installing on UEFI systems without legacy mode now, which was a much requested feature and took quite a while to make it work reliably with the Calamares installer. We do not, however, support secure boot on EFI systems yet." Tanglu 4.0 is available in three editions: Core, KDE and GNOME. Download (SHA256, pkglist)): tanglu-dasyatis-kde-live-amd64.hybrid.iso (1,356MB), tanglu-dasyatis-gnome-live-amd64.hybrid.iso (1,289MB), tanglu-dasyatis-core-live-amd64.hybrid.iso (462MB).

>>60862013
>how hard is it to install things that aren't in the main repo, or even compile
Literally just as easy if not easier than installing shit on other distros.

>>60863559
Thanks for the news, wish we had these more often.

how do I install moon visual novels on linux? Running it through wine is just giving me weird illegible characters.

Is going keyboard only really more effective?

>>60862887
wm are obsolete since wayland

>>60863668
then fuck wayland

>>60863642

LANG=ja_JP.utf8 wine foo.exe

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>>60863695
doesn't work with the old installation on windows, do I make a new install with the .mds/.mdf?

>>60863743
try just LANG=ja_JP

>>60863743
try cd'ing into the directory with the exe first

>>60863682
Ubuntu 17.10 wayland replaces X.

>>60863809
fuck Ubuntu

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>>60863743
>>60863761

Doesn't seem to work either. I'm installing d3dx9 on wine in case the game needs that.

So, I'm looking to switch to linux and need a distro. I'm doing web dev.

So as I understand thing I basically have 2 choices :
- Using a debian based distro, resulting in an easy to install distro but a pain in the ass as soon as I'm looking to install something exotic or proprietary.
- Using an arch based distro, resulting in a bit more painful to setup distro but with the convenience of the arch user repository.

So what do ? Is there a good Arch, easy to set up, distro out there ?

>>60863855
Try these:
LANG=ja_JP.CP932
LANG=ja_JP.SJIS
LANG=ja_JP.EUC

>>60863809
>>60863821
So they dropped their Mir-shit? That's good news if true.

>>60863937
check what locales you have available first:

locale -a | grep JP

>>60863947
Yes, mir is dead. They decided to promote already existing free software rather than fragment things.

>>60863904
Manjaro apparently is an easy to install Arch ("installer" is how some people call it). In the case you want something like debian use Devuan instead so you have fewer problems

>>60863961
then fuck Ubuntu, I jumped that ship in time

>>60863969
Yes for Arch I heard about Manjaro and Antergos and I'm trying to decide between both.

I'm pulling a total brain-fart right now.

I just re-installed Solus after floating a few distros on my laptop and for some reason it will only install Ruby 2.2.4, updated and upgraded all packages and it still only pulls 2.2.4.

Anyone have any suggestions?

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I am practicing installing arch linux im new as shit to all of this stuff.

I followed a youtube video but right at the end it says

error retrieveing core.db [email protected]

I am off the screen so can't give the entire transcript but it was right after trying to mount dev/sda1 and trying to install arch i guess.

idk it may be over my head. I am probably going to rest on it for now...

>>60864043
Seems like a problen in your network configuration, like a hosts or whatever Arch fucks these days.

I seriously hope you have installed at least one distro before diving into Arch. Arch for newbies to GNU/Linux is a meme.

>>60864187
I have absolutely zero expierence with this type of stuff. my friend just said to do it first and all of y friends use it.

I am pretty new to technology stuff desu.

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>>60863458
thanks it worked

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>>60859413
>Updating database for manual pages (waiting) . . .
Installed Dragora -- was running fine until I reboot, now this has been stuck for 1 hour now... shell responses, but actually input is recognized. Such is life and joy's of Linux.

>>60864243
shell responses, but there is not actual input and nothing is recognized as a command, i.e. ctrl-z and ctrl-x output as ^X^C*

>>60861025
It really doesn't matter. You can run all of the same shit on any distro. I use Arch btw.

>>60864187
I am going to download ubuntu right now in virtualbox to practice first.

>>60864214
>my friend just said to do it first and all of y friends use it
Goddammit, they are either posers or trolling you, using Arch or Gentoo as a first experience is a recipe for disaster. Try another distro.

>>60864439
ok daddy

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>>60863950
thanks, the locale wasn't in the list so I used "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" to get it and now it works with the first suggestion I got. Thanks for all the help guys, I see the thread has gotten very friendly since I last came here.

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>>60863998
This is ridiculous. Canonical's NIH syndrome is the primary reason that so many people dislike them. How people can actually like and support their pointless fragmentation is beyond me. That said, now that they are ending that stint I will give Ubuntu a fair chance on the first GNOME release.

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>>60861198
YOU WILL NEVER ESCAPE THE PARADOX OF CHOICE. IT'S A FUCKING CURSE.

>>60864665
NixOS or GuixSD.
The last distros you will ever install.

>>60864767
>no USE flags
make then source based distros and then we talk

Anyone running KDE? Which distro did you end up using? I'm looking for stability but also up to date software.

>>60864817
They are source based.

But you have to understand that due to the way their package managers work they claim that any builds that result in the same hashes are literally identical binaries bit for bit.
Therefore they also let you download the binaries, but you only download them if their server has one with the exact same hash you need. If the hash isn't available then it compiles it from source.

So in the end (if their claim is true) then it's basically a completely source based distro.

>tfw buliding a custom run-from-RAM Alpine image for some servers we have to deploy at work
>tfw doing it in a KVM guest, with the editing done on the host machine via my nice riced out Vim via sshfs into the VM
>tfw my laptop doesn't even run hot doing all this
Linux wizardry is so fucking cool.

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>>60864912
Forgot my face.

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Sometimes I try to install an AUR package through pacaur and end up running out of disk space before it finishes.

The obvious solution to me was to symlink a folder on a bigger partition to that package's folder in

~/.cache/pacaur

, so that it downloads and builds it on a bigger partition.
But pacaur doesn't like that, picrelated.

Any other ideas on how to solve this problem?

>>60859427
K, gonna try in a vm this tomorrow

>>60864841
Arch, oddly enough. Don't

pacman -Syu

once an hour like an autistic retard and you'll have far less breakage.

Let's say I'm running an iGPU and some discrete video card that is used on the Linux host. Can you switch to the iGPU whenever you want to passthrough the discrete GPU? I'd love to keep using the Linux host as much as possible and not cripple it with shitty integrated graphics. If it can't be done, then I might as well succumb to another video card.

>>60865222
Passthrough is an all or nothing thing. You either configure it for the host or for the VM. If you need a big GPU for the Linux host, you need another card.

using arch linux, how do you guys get that arrow thing that points to the command in the terminal?

I always see it but it is never mentioned

>>60865436
That's a function of your shell prompt. Basically use > to replace $ in your PS1 (bash) or PROMPT (zsh) settings.

>>60865454
ok but what about making it colored and shit?

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um I'm using KDE Neon and want to know why everything got FUCKHUGE when I enabled wayland? How do I change it?

how do i change mouse speed on antergos?

tried everything in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration and still to move my mouse from one side of the monitor to the other I have to travel a thousand miles with my hand

>>60865513
not using a DE btw, just a minimal install with openbox

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>>60859413
Hi, I'm trying to run Vulkan as a video backend for Dolphin and I clearly see that my GPU is supported by it (5500). But it seems to throw "Failed to create Vulkan device"

>>60865570
Most likely it's a drivers issue. Do your drivers support Vulkan?

>>60865589
I'd believe so, I used intel's utility for it.

Is this really the day that KDE should triumph? Should my mom use KDE instead of GNOME now?

Also, why is Mint so shit?

>>60865616
>Is this really the day that KDE should triumph? Should my mom use KDE instead of GNOME now?
eh
GNOME is like the 3k civic meme at this point from /o/. Its a good base but you need a lot of tweaks to get it right but once you do its rewarding. KDE is fine if her computer can handle GNOME.
>Also, why is Mint so shit?
Their devs are the worst, its literally an Ubuntu reskin with their name and green color scheme slapped on it.

How do I use your compiler to produce non-bloated software?

>>60865834

I'm new to ricing, I don't want to be too autistic with it, just give it a pretty and consistent look.
I'm running Linux Mint Cinnamon, installed the Numix theme and loved it, but it is red, I want to make it green. I tried to mess around with some config files, changed some color hexcodes but nothing changed, only think that I managed to change what the folder icons running a script that came with the theme, but the rest is still red.

Is there some brainlet/justwerks way to have numix green?

>>60866051

You have to edit the sass files and then process/build the theme again to have the most consistent look.
Alternatively you can use Oomox or however it's spelled to fully customize your Numix theme, but that looks problematic to me.

>>60865513
>>60865515

Works on my machine with Openbox.

>not use a DE
You have all the components which make up a desktop environment, therefore you are using one.

>>60866092
What are sass files and how I do it?

>>60865494

Play with the scaling settings.

>>60865461

It supports color escape codes. Look up "colored PS1 prompt" in your search engine.

>>60866104

You can look it up online and on Numix's website.
https://github.com/numixproject/numix-gtk-theme#build-it

It feels pretty good to do your video encoding straight from the terminal with ffmpeg rather than using a GUI tool like Handbrake.

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>Want to try out Antergos on my machine
>Needs a custom ISO without nouveau just to work properly
I didn't think the whole NVIDIA meme was real until now

>>60866216
You don't have to go that far, just disable kms on the grub boot screen

Is there literally any way I can change how many lines I scroll through without entering in some X11 command bullshit or using KDE?

>>60859495
I guess the option to float is nice due to poorly designed programs, but mostly I tile everything with i3wm.

Hey has anybody here used KDE Neon or just KDE 5 in general cuz I'm wanting opinions on how well it actually works

Haven't used KDE since 3 and 4

>>60866288
I'm using KDE on Arch now. It's pretty great

>>60866375
How buggy would you say it is?

>>60866419
Alaska in June.

Is Fedora Mate good choice?

How do I get gud with all that command line wizardry? It feels like my colleague can solve literally anything with sed/awk/grep/find/xargs etc.

>>60866894
git gud
also stackexchange.com

I'm looking to install Gentoo on my new laptop, the only thing refraining me are compile times. My CPU is an Intel Core i5-7200U 2.5 GHz(3.1 overclocked iirc). What kind of compile times should I expect? Also, do you have any tips in general about what you should and shouldn't do the first time you install it?

So I am forced to use WebDAV to access my university's file server because apparently opening a few ports is too risky and too much work for the sysadmins. Lazy cunts. What free as in freedom software do I need to install on Xubuntu 14.04 so I can access it? I tried cadaver but that doesn't let me download many files (404 despite being able to download them fine on uni PCs (Windows 7, yuck) and being able to see them in cadaver).
Preferably CLI but at this point I'm desperate because exams are coming up and I can't access any reading material.

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Finally installed devuan and got some fucking nice boot/shutdown times.
Why even use Debian at this point?

>>60867397
There was something wrong with your systembotnet setup then.
systemd is quite a lot faster than sysvinit.

But then again, measuring shutdown/boot times is just pointless dick measuring contest. Those 10-15 seconds once/twice a day do not make a difference at fucking all.

>>60867397
because i installed debian and don't like to distro hop

>>60866894
A good start is to use it more.
Then learn regex, specifically the sed syntax.
I use grep all the time, it is a great tool.

Give yourself homework and do it when you have time.
Eg. at school, we were told to find all the cursewords used in linux.
curl a site, get the list of cursewords with sed, clone the linux source code and grep through it to find any matches to the list of cursewords.

When you are comfortable doing stuff like that, you can use it in a professional way as well.
It is a good thing to save all your scripts (regardless of how juvenile) because in a few years, you might want to read them again.

Another tip is to use software that leads you to the command line.
Eg, use dolphin as your file manager instead of a purely graphical one, use vim as your editor etc.

>>60867524
you can upgrade to devuan without reinstalling.

>>60867231
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/WebDAV#Thunar

>>60866894
>It feels like my colleague can solve literally anything with sed/awk/grep/find/xargs etc.
Generally how it is. Shell scripts are extremely powerful and efficient tools when you know how to use them.

https://aadrake.com/command-line-tools-can-be-235x-faster-than-your-hadoop-cluster.html

>>60867397
Is this volume icon on your taskbar pasystray?

>>60867619
>Hadoop Cluster
Did you read that article or are you just using it to bolster your point?

>>60867710
Did you?

>>60867725
yes. i also know what apache hadoop is for.

>>60867736
Then I have no clue why you insist on making an inflammatory post based on your (I assume faulty) projections.

>>60862756
devilish

>>60859413
In what format should I convert my weaboo flacs into? Should I ogg? I'd like it to be converted as 192k to save space

Give me your quality command lines plsss.

>>60866889
>fatdora
>good
choose one.

Get arch or gentoo.

>>60867542
Convenient. Thank you.

>>60868012
128kbps Opus.
Unless you're putting them on a portable music player, leave them as FLAC.

>>60868012
I do ogg vorbis -q5 and it's okay

>>60868012
96kbps Opus, any higher is pointless

Which places can control what happens when pushing the power button on my case/some keyboards?

I already changed the setting in KDE's systemsettings, but some shit seems to override it. So I set everything in systemd's logind.conf to ignore, but it still doesn't respect my settings.

Add to this that I've had issues with waking up from suspend ever since systemd appeared and I have a button that forces me to reboot half of the time I accidentally press it.

>>60868012
opus 128k

>>60868194
>Add to this that I've had issues with waking up from suspend ever since systemd appeared and I have a button that forces me to reboot half of the time I accidentally press it.

Someone else suggested to me it was a Systemd problem too, turns out my NFS server which I had set to automount wasn't unmounting when my laptop tried to suspend which prevented it from suspending. Make sure there aren't unnecessary volumes mounted.

>>60868024
>arch or gentoo.
Eh, no. Last time i used mate on arch, it was orphaned for half of a year. At that time gtk 3.22(?) was released, theme i used was updated for it, but it was completely broken in mate because it was outdated. And i'm not going to compile gentoo on a fucking laptop with 1.8ghz cpu.

>>60868237
>on arch
>it was completely broken
That's normal.

>>60859413
Who is that guy?

>>60868291
enemy of freedom

>>60868291
Linux Torvalds

>>60868237
>m8
Just use gnome.
Arch is best distro for plasma x11.
>1.8ghz
Plasma would still work even with only 2GB ram.

>>60868291
Linus Techtips

Hello /fglt/.

What's a good Keepass software for Linux/GNU(currently using Ubuntu)?

>>60868398
GNU/Linux*

'pass' is comfy

>>60867397

Because Debian is doing all the hard work and Devuan is leeching off the work, idiot. Without Debian, there wouldn't be your tiny little sour-grapes distribution.

>>60868438
please jump in a lake, dumb memer

>>60868398
I use QTPass but it's better in a KDE environment.

>>60868398
https://www.passwordstore.org/

>>60868398
plaintext file is good enough

>>60868398
You body has a comfortable and 99% secure storage device built-in. Search for "brain".

>>60868432
>>60868462
>>60868461

What do you guys think about KeepassX/KeeepassXC? It gets recommended alot.

>>60868487
It is a considerable suggestion.

>>60868455

I bet you also think Manjaro, Korora and those hundreds of worthless Ubuntu derivatives are legit distributions.

Aww, babby has nothing going on for him, so he has to feel pride for using a shitty distribution and giving them credit for work other people have done. Aww, how is babby going to cope now that he realized that?

>>60868502
enjoy ur systemd

>>60868438
You do realize that Debian and Devuan are the same people, right? In fact, Devuan is half of the Debian community.

>>60868534

>Devuan is half of the Debian community.
[citation needed]

How secure is vim -x?

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>>60868438
>I only use distributions of free-and-open-source operating systems that have received an nonexistent cuckstamp of being supported by a company and not actually what I need/want.
Bravo anon, I'm really proud.

If instead of making inflammatory posts to feel better about your retarded decision making investigated the problem you'd know that Debian is a community distribution and Devuan developers/maintainers are Debian developers/maintainers disgruntled with redhat forcing systemd on everyone around them

Encoding options:
 --bitrate n.nnn    Set target bitrate in kbit/sec (6-256/channel)
 --vbr              Use variable bitrate encoding (default)
 --cvbr             Use constrained variable bitrate encoding
 --hard-cbr         Use hard constant bitrate encoding
 --comp n           Set encoding complexity (0-10, default: 10 (slowest))
 --framesize n      Set maximum frame size in milliseconds
                      (2.5, 5, 10, 20, 40, 60, default: 20)
 --expect-loss      Set expected packet loss in percent (default: 0)
 --downmix-mono     Downmix to mono
 --downmix-stereo   Downmix to stereo (if >2 channels)
 --max-delay n      Set maximum container delay in milliseconds
                      (0-1000, default: 1000)

which encoding options for OPUS are ((audiophile))-tier?

Void Linux

>>60868610
just use ffmpeg
-c:a libopus -ab 128k

>>60868610

opusenc input.file output.opus

If you notice a difference between that and your flacs, I'll send you 10 bitcoins.

>>60868621
pls no meme posts

>>60868625
he directly asked for autistic settings you dum dum

>>60868634
Not a meme

It's literally good Arch

>>60868609

Yes, all the 5 people working on Devuan.

>forcing
I suggest you look up what the word means. First of all it's software, no one can force you to use it. Secondly, it's free software you can change it to your needs.

>>60868641
But they're pointless

>>60868653
Your post confirms that you don't have any clue about whats going on.

>>60868653
I was like you until I watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvyOGawNwo

>>60868653
>First of all it's software, no one can force you to use it. Secondly, it's free software you can change it to your needs.
Wow, you're just fucking clueless then. Refrain from posting until you learn about the world sorrounding you friend.

>>60868610
I'm gonna use this. Any more suggestion?

for file in *.flac; do opusenc --bitrate 192 --comp 10 "$file"  "${file/.flac/.opus}"; done;

>>60868625
>b8
Sounds muddier than code/flac related.
Tested with "5-01 ・-・・---・・・-・(signum_ii remix)"

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beware the slimy redhat shill

>>60868623
Not him, but do I really need to reinstall ffmpeg for this?

$ ffmpeg -i Valdez\ In\ The\ Country\ \(Backing\ Track\).mp3 -c:a libopus valdez.ogg
ffmpeg version N-83133-ge664730 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 4.8 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.3)
  configuration: --enable-libvpx --enable-libvorbis
  libavutil      55. 43.100 / 55. 43.100
  libavcodec     57. 73.100 / 57. 73.100
  libavformat    57. 62.100 / 57. 62.100
  libavdevice    57.  2.100 / 57.  2.100
  libavfilter     6. 69.100 /  6. 69.100
  libswscale      4.  3.101 /  4.  3.101
  libswresample   2.  4.100 /  2.  4.100
Input #0, mp3, from 'Valdez In The Country (Backing Track).mp3':
  Duration: 00:03:17.96, start: 0.025057, bitrate: 261 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16p, 261 kb/s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : LAME3.98 
    Side data:
      replaygain: track gain - -7.100000, track peak - unknown, album gain - unknown, album peak - unknown, 
Unknown encoder 'libopus'

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>be a Linux babby
>install Mint
>want to print a document
>start printing and go to the shower
>come back and see 120 pages printed and still going of pure gibberish

Apparently you have to install drivers manually or else this happens.
Having a blast with Linux though.

>>60868731
>

configuration: --enable-libvpx --enable-libvorbis

thats indeed pretty lightweight, vanilla ubuntu ffmpeg?

>>60868743
>printing stuff
why

>>60868723
>Sounds muddier than code/flac related.

No it doesn't.

>>60868755
The version I got from the repo didn't work so I downloaded the source from their git or svn (it's been a while), compiled it and installed that. I only ever used vorbis for audio and vpx for 4chan webms.

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Any way to change the paths to these shortcuts on nemo? I want them pointing to folders in another partition, not in /home

>>60868743
Really depends on the device. Bear in mind that CUPS is not a Linux-exclusive piece of software. It's actually OS X as it's developed by Apple.

I had one HP InkJet that would print shit smooth and without hiccups right from the bat without any 3rd party software and later on the line another one (a more compact printer) that requires a proprietary plugin otherwise it flat out refuses to work.

>>60868723
>>60868625
beginning of the song:
グレード1のテスト
投げ出し - this sexy part gets muddy senpai
た女の

>>60868731
libopus don't exist on my repo
Only have opus, opusfile and opus-tools

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>>60868781
Home I don't think so. "Home" is ancient unix standard.
Desktop Documents Music Pictures Videos Download are determined by xdg desktop directories and you can change them.
I'd advice looking into bookmarks

>>60868774
some useful compile flags: https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=ffmpeg-full

for opus you need --enable-libopus

>>60868793
I question your veracity especially since you're a bit clueless on how to use libopus.

>>60868808
>for opus you need --enable-libopus
Thanks, Captain Obvious. I guess I'll stick to vorbis until I get a new computer or hard drive and it's time to recompile.

will a future with systemd as standard part of the system really be bad? what could go wrong?

>>60868805
Oh, the OS keep track of those paths, I thought it was a file manager thing.
Apparently I just have to change them on ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs

Changing the home path is possible too, but it is associated with the user account.
Anyway, thanks.

>>60868847
As a result of the standardization acros distros, Linux may become more viable for desktop use for regular people.

>>60868847
>future
????

>>60868852
>Apparently I just have to change them on ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
Yeah, this is the xdg desktop directories I was talking about.

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>>60868858
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>60868743
Man don't get me started on printers.

>be a PDP hacker
>help write ITS
>want to print a document
>start printing and keep hacking
>come back and see a few pages from the previous print job and nothing of mine
>printer jammed again
>decide to hack driver so it'll notify about paper jams
>driver is some non-free binary-only bullshit

Apparently you mustn't give away your freedom or else this happens.
Having a blast with Lisp though.

>>60868847
a single company with too much control over the system
programs with systemd dependency
worse portability
bad flexibility

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>>60868811
>http://www.audiocheck.net/blindtests_16vs8bit_NeilYoung.php
Golden ears or btfo

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>>60868885
>when the software free as in freedom

>>60868885
I smirked, good job.

>>60868885
10/10

>>60868847
Systemd is literally a landing cushion for microsoft linux and microsoft developers.
>literally microsoft services and task scheduler clone
>definitely not redhat/microsoft

>>60868677
>>60868720

Oh no, the evil Red Hats are pointing a gun to my head and making me use their software. Oh no, what am I going to do?!

>>60868956
oh no completely missing the point again like the gullible idiot i am!

>>60868962

Perhaps you should explain your point then. But please don't force me to use software like Red Hats do apparently.

>>60868900

I use distributions based on the Linux kernel, I don't care about "portability". Neither does the majority of people using it.
Flexibility is just another buzzword which means the same as your ridiculously subjective "portability" argument.
There are no programs with hard systemd dependencies. If there are, fork them and make them not depend on it. It's free software.

>>60868967
here >>60868713 and https://igurublog.wordpress.com/2014/02/17/biography-of-a-cypherpunk-and-how-cryptography-affects-your-life/

>>60868995

>boo hoo this software is bad because i don't like how it does some stuff

Nothing of that is relevant. It's all free software. In the end, the best solution will prevail.
It's not even relevant to this discussion. We're talking about being forced to use software and clearly no one is forcing you. You can use anything you want. All you are is an entitled idiot who is angry that other people don't like what you like.

>>60868988
"the majority" is just another systemd propaganda buzzword
"the majority" of people supporting systemd are paid by red hat

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>>60868929
I guess this means I win, better luck next time.

>>60869043

>"the majority" of people supporting systemd are paid by red hat
Perhaps you should check out /x/, they like childish conspiracy theories. Or you should kill yourself to spare yourself and everyone else idiotic claims like that.

It doesn't really affect me what you do, you can do whatever you want. I just find your idiocy amusing and I like making fun of you and similar idiots. I have no stakes in systemd, I just use it because it's convenient and free software. I also like calling idiots like yourself out on their paranoid, 9/11 levels of paranoia, beliefs. It's refreshing and makes me seem like a lesser loser.

>>60868988
https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/428

>>60869069

>Closed, not implemented
So you just proved yourself wrong without even realizing it.
And it doesn't depend on systemd, that feature would only enable it to profit from some features it offers. You can still use it by missing out on those.
Kill yourself.

Can viruses emulate themselves in wine?

Let's say I'm a huge faggot. I don't want to pay for Apple but these little things bug me out when using Linux. Right now I'm on Ubuntu Mate but whenever I launch a Java application that has a system tray icon, it ignores the theme and has a white background on a black panel. Damn does that drive me crazy.

Which DE/Distro would you suggest for solid, bug-free experience. Something super consistent and beautiful. I know Linux is a mess because of the whole GTK vs. Qt thingy but whatever. I still prefer GNU/Linux over Mac OS so I'd rather not install Hackintosh.

I know all of you will say Elementary but no. It tries to copy Mac OS and it's buggy as fuck. I don't need my OS to look like Mac I just want it to be beautiful and consistent.

Is GNOME the best for this?

>>60869102
>Let's say I'm a huge faggot.
You are

>>60869102
install bsd

>>60869029
>explain your point then
>btw your arguments are irrelevant cause i have the attention span of a canary XD
I'm so fucking tired with arguing with children like you, no matter what I do , at the end you all admit that you don't care.

>In the end, the best solution will prevail.
systemd is the best proof it doesn't.

>>60869085
yes, wine doesn't really emulate, programs you run with wine have access to your system

>>60869066
never go full blue pill

>>60869085
yes

>>60869059
That being said, I am on Arch and using the latest stable version of the Opus encoder so that might make a difference especially if you're on Ubuntu or something.

So I've been running Chakra/Manjaro on my laptops now for the past year or so and now I want to do it on my desktop as well. Problem is that I have two Nvidia GPUs running in SLI and I have 4 monitors, 2 per card.. And yeah I can only get two monitors working. Did get the latest drivers but that was clearly not the main issue

Any tips?

>>60869158
*tips fedora*

>>60869116

I read the article, there's nothing relevant to this in it.

>systemd is the best proof it doesn't.
Yes, you are someone with in-depth knowledge about software and this field in general. Your criticisms and solutions posted here or elsewhere surely prove that. You have actual insight about the alleged problems and not just superficial and wrong (even a layman can see that it's pathetic grasping at straws) opinions you picked up from other likeminded idiots.
This isn't even systemd exclusive. I see idiotic posts like yours for every topic in this thread. How Qt is better than GTK, how Bash is terrible, how Xorg is better than Wayland. It's a neverending supply of idiocy. Keep it up.
At least some of us have enough decency to admit that they don't know anything about it and we stay out of technical arguments (apart from these, where we expose other idiots because even laymen like us can see that they're full of shit).

>>60869170
>At least some of us have enough decency to admit that they don't know anything about it and we stay out of technical arguments
Oh boy that's the end for him, he just admitted he's shitposting without any clue what he's talking about, he can't possibly recover from-
>apart from these
HE MOTHERFUCKING DID IT. Nearly lost his goddamn job there but he recovered like the motherfucking boss he is. Is this guy good or what?

>>60868988
>"I think programs should just work with *any* init system"
>reeeeee portability and flexibility is a meme, nobody cares hahaha

>>60869170
>I see idiotic posts like yours for every topic in this thread. How Qt is better than GTK, how Bash is terrible, how Xorg is better than Wayland.
>It's a neverending supply of idiocy.
Funny you mentioned that because comparing the systemd controversy to bunch of children arguing which interactive shell is the best is nothing alike, it takes a fool. to equal these two.

We all choose to use GNU/Linux because we like how it's structured, we like it's philosophies and the flexibility it gives us.
This means that design choices are very fundamental to what makes GNU/Linux a fine system to use, right?
So we should look at systemd from a design perspective. Is it a good decision to make PID #1 a monolithic too-big-to-fail piece of software that even fucking kernel developers themselves claim is too complicated to understand? FUCK NO.

The "unix way" is a vital design criteria for important low level system software, hate it or not.

If we had programmed our software in the past like systemd is today, then it would be impossible to replace our old shit.
We'd be stuck with our old crusty init systems and systemd wouldn't even exist today.
How amazing is it that systemd was able to so easily step in and replace the init systems across every major distro in such a short period of time? The fact that it was able to do that is not a credit to systemd, it's a credit to the "unix way" that our old software was so easily interchanged.

The danger here is that systemd exploited the unix way to replace our old sotware, and now it doesn't follow the unix way meaning that in the future it's going to be impossible to replace it.

But continue sperging about idiots who "hate systemd because they dun understand it and I do lelelelelelel"
Technical standpoint? Sure thing buddy. Systemd is massive. The more complicated the project gets, the more people work on it, the harder it gets to spot bugs, vulnerabilities and other undersirable elements of it. And it gets bigger.

>>60869263

>So we should look at systemd from a design perspective. Is it a good decision to make PID #1 a monolithic too-big-to-fail piece of software
Stopped reading right there. Countless times disproved, you might want to inform yourself about one of the most superficial aspects of the topic you're trying to discuss.

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>>60869170
>At least some of us have enough decency to admit that they don't know anything about it and we stay out of technical arguments (apart from these, where we expose other idiots because even laymen like us can see that they're full of shit).
So you just admitted to defending shit you don't understand because you're a fucking sheep and it "works for you"
the absolute state of systemd shilling.

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>>60869292
>Countless times disproved
By who, Poettering? Lmao

>>60869292
>stops reading/informing himself
>suggests others to inform themselfes
priceless

>>60869294

I am not the one making claims by parroting misinformation I read online. You make claims, you prove them.

>>60869303

Yes and other people who take 30 seconds to think about it. Not by people like you who post screenshots of random idiocy to discredit other parts.

>>60869318

Would you keep reading a text where someone tries to convince you about something earth related that mentioned that the world is flat? If you would, then you're an idiot.

I really need IDs on /g/. ;_;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing

>>60869114
that doesn't solve anything I complained about

>>60869356
would've been nice honestly.
Would cut down corporate shilling within a day.

Is awk the systemd of terminal applications?

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>>60867397

>>60869352
Buddy just stop posting

What you did was
>admit you have no clue what you're talking about
>project the same about the others
>ignore all the arguments posted so far
>fail to provide any and all counterarguments (how could you since you didn't even read them)

And all you're doing over and over again is "just do some fucking research". I did.
You did not.

>>60869383
awk is an interpretted programming language.

>>60869059
>no thumbs up
Nice inspect element

>>60868534
this

>>60868547
yes it is

TIL: gx in vim opens the url under the cursor in my browser
Any more hidden gems like this?

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>>60869059
Hahaha, no gold thumbs up in (you)r result

>>60869578
>>60869473
Thumbs up doesn't matter when you have golden ears.

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new bread when?

>>60869539
nice

>>60869597
Haha nice inspect element faggot. Don't claim you have golden ears like me.

Thumbs up emoji works natively on KDE and qupzilla https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%F0%9F%91%8D+emoji&t=qupzilla&ia=answer

-> >>60869674

>>60867397
>nice boot/shutdown
Remember ubuntu before systemd? It used to be this fast.
Here I am having to force shutdown with Ctrl+Alt+Del x7 while my systemd is waiting for a stop job for 47 minutes

>>60869695
Remember when systemd apologists claimed lennartware was faster? I wish those fucking faggots burn in hell.

>>60862013
Debian has a rolling release branch called Sid. It's basically Arch, but breaks not as often and updates are managed by apt system.

>>60869667
>Don't claim you have golden ears like me.

I have 20/20. I don't have the thumbs because of my adblock.

>>60869158
>sli
>4 monitors
Thats not how sli works bro

>>60870523
3 monitors acting as one and one extra, yes it is.