/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

Richard Stallman is a Communist

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>>60846926

fpbp

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>>60846926
ballmer pls

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Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux (and I mean advanced), remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution, and (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:
Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
With even the documentation licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can heal broken installs.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage (or ports-like) package manager? With SMGL's "sorcery" you get all that. Making new spells (packages) not found in the grimoire (repository) is easy http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Bash hackers welcome! Come and join http://sourcemage.org/

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sitting around waiting for the Debian Stretch release

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break out of the systemd and install devuan

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NixOS > Gentoo

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>>60846919
include me in your screennshot guy is best guy

>>60847009
Nice meme

>>60847062
GuixSD > NixOS

>>60847079
Bad meme

>>60847084
Agreed, but I can't bring myself to use it

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>>60846926
5 cute fact abour richie:
- he like birds
- he likes folk dancing
- he likes sleeping on your couch
- richie!!!!!

>>60846926
even if so, what would be wrong with it mccarthy?

>>60847121
this

What's the best wifi adapter (that respects my freedoms) currently? Got this librebooted thinkpad from a friend and I think it would be a sin to install a nonfree wifi driver on it.

>>60847174
Ethernet

>>60847118
that;s only 6!

>>60847174
minifree or tehnoetic

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What are some cool Linux commands?

>>60847269
mv -- ~ -rf

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Amidoinitrite?

>>60847322
>nigger
>>>/pol/

>>60847322
first off, share pape
then, uninstall as much as nonfree software as possible (vrms may help, but isn't reliable)
then install urxvt and customize you terminal colors (or use wal, which generates a colorscheme based on your wallpaper)
then install synaptic, dont use the software centre
then install i3-wm, you can select in from your login screen later
then try to compile your first program: i3-gaps, and install it
then get comfy, learn the shell, avoid installing stupid frameworks, instead read the copypasta colelction in the OP
discover the systemd, find your personal favorite programs
try to actually understand how apt works
youre ready for distro hopping, come back when doe

>>60847322
>not mint
yes
>niggers
fired

>>60847388
i have no idea why I wrote systemd instead of system

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>>60847269

echo "scale=1000; 4*a(1)" | bc -l

calculates pi to 1000 decimal places.

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>>60847388
Here's the pape.

>>60847422
I golfed these together when the whiteboard meme was the new thing:

# Find the sum of all the multiples of 3 or 5 below 1000.
n=;for((i=1000;i>0;i--));{(((i%3&&i%5)||(n+=i)));};echo $n
# Find the sum of all the primes below two million.
echo $[$(seq 2 2e6|factor|sed 's/.*: //;/ /d'|tr \\n +|sed 's/+$//')]

r8/h8

echo $((2+2))

calculates 2+2

>>60847269
uname -o

>>60847418
muscle memory and too much time on /g/

>>60847418
I have no idea why I write Linux Torvalds instead of Linus Torvalds

>>60847498
Nice try Stallman, but uname -s prints the OS, read the fucking standard.

So yesterday I finally installed Gentoo.

Took me three tries because I was trying something weird at first and the bootloader did not like it.

I was trying to install it in another hard drive, /dev/sdb1, but I had another OS in /dev/sda1. I could not get the bootloader from /dev/sda to load /dev/sdb1. Also because I put the kernel for gentoo in /dev/sdb1 instead of what the guide suggested to put it in /dev/sdb2 as /boot.

Though, not it works after I resized /dev/sda1 and feels comfy!

Anything else I should do? maybe start moving to BSD?

>>60847539
Nice try Linux Torvalds.

$ mo uname -s -o
       -s, --kernel-name
              print the kernel name

       -o, --operating-system
              print the operating system

Why the fuck am I getting a connection error in this thread?

>>60847571
There are weird phrases that cloudflare blocks, and it shows up as a connection error.
ls -l (with a single space) is an example

>>60847318
What's -- for?

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Hello /fglt/,

I'm trying to deepen my knowledge of Linux and have started reading pic related.

Is this the best book to read through to achieve such a task or would you guys have any other recommendations in mind? Thanks!

>>60847584
I originally put that in a code block with 2 spaces. I guess 4chan removed the code block because it was too short.

>>60847584
Wow this is fucking gay.

I can't make a post containing
/ etc / hosts
without spaces

>>60846919
>Mission Failed, We'll Get Em' Next Time

>>60847562
>ignores the standard and listens to false document documentation
Kek

>>60847585
-- is a gnu standard like --help or --version, etc, it means "This is the end of all arguments" and makes things like

touch -- --no-preserve-root

possible

It is actually useful when you have retarded filenames that start with an '-' and you want to remove it. Then you run (to remove the previously created (touched) file:

rm -- --no-preserve-root

how to get the best performance out of a gtx 10 series card? thanks

>>60847633
>thanks
np, thats why were here

>glxgears
why is this program a thing

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!5

>>60847631
Damn lol, but you can also do

rm ./--no-preserve-root

but I see what's going on. Thanks.

>>60847633
Install the nvidia-381* drivers and nvidia-settings. You will need to add a PPA if you're running Ubuntu, or otherwise just grab the .dpkg from the pool if you're running another Debian based distro.

>>60847631
It's also useful for hardening scripts. Many commands like mv, cp, rm, printf support it. IMHO -- should be used whenever possible. Just imahine some retard uploading a file like >>60847708 on your server.

>>60847631
>gnu standard
I think the POSIX standard getopt does that too.

>>60847716
alright cool, on arch just only ever had amd cards. will check that out, still not sure i want to do loonux gaming, but it's good to have the option

>>60847726
when you start parsing literally who inputs with shell scrips you're already beyond help

>>60847744
this! fuck gnu!!

>>60847784
GNU literally introduced long options.
>>60847744
Guess who gave POSIX it's name.

inb4 its just linux

>>60847811
>Guess who gave POSIX it's name.
I wasn't saying GNU is bad, I was just trying to make your statement more accurate.

that whole stuff reminds me of a question

when writing cli programs, scripts, whatevs, where can I look for standarts or guidlines for command options?

currently I have a short list for stuff
-n number
-l list
-d directory or deamon
-v verbose, -V version

stuff like that

>>60847891
Do what you want, or better, do what you think which is the best thing to. Welcome to freedom.

>>60847891
There are no real "standards". Trying to copy the coreutils is generally a good idea, though.
-r --recursive (some programs have this is -R)
-h --help

>>60847891
-b, --benis

>>60847269

$ uptime | perl -naE 'say+8,"="x$F[2],D'
8==================================D

come at me

>>60847971
server (debian/jessie)
8==============================================================================================================================================D
laptop (debian/sid)
8===D

>>60848045
Join us: https://devuan.org/

Suggest me good screenshot app for arch

>>60848099
rm

>>60848099
just install premium-screenshooter-git from the AUR

>>60848099

> Screenshot pasta:

Option a) Use your DE's builtin screenshot program:

Gnome: gnome-screenshot
KDE: KSnapshot

Option b) Install a screenshot program:

https://github.com/dreamer/scrot
https://github.com/naelstrof/maim

Option c) Use Imagemagick:

# Desktop
import -quality 100 -window root +repage "~/scrots/scrot_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).png"

# Window (with window frame)
import -quality 100 -screen -frame +repage "~/scrots/scrot_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).png"

# Window (without window frame)
import -quality 100 -screen +repage "~/scrots/scrot_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).png"

# Select part of screen:
import -quality 100 +repage "~/scrots/scrot_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).png"

Option d) Use ffmpeg:
ffmpeg -f x11grab -i :0.0+0,0 -s wxga -f image2 -vframes 1 "~/scrots/scrot_$(date +%Y%m%d%H%M%S).png"

Notes:

If you find yourself with glitches (using scrot or imagemagick), try:
https://github.com/gvalkov/xrectsel
https://github.com/naelstrof/slop
Alternativly, kill your composite manager before taking a screenshot.
Example for compton: pkill compton && <screenshot command> && compton

>>60848099
gentoo

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>>60847971

8============D

technically it's the (Debian) VM I do all my web browsing in, not the whole machine. but whatever.

>>60847971
why is perl so cool?
why am I too stupid for peal?
why is everyone one ruby/python instead of pearl?

peal is true magic to me

>>60847971
arch VM on windows 10
8D

How good is "qutebrowser"s security?

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How do I fix this shit?

>>60848262
Please leave this thread forever.

>>60848275
>they are posting among us
>I actually already may have wasted my time in helping them
>my help may posted on some "linux development on windows" blog

that's it
fuck the internet
i'm out

>>60848314
meant for >>60848262

>>60848329
What about me tho

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>>60848344
type 'help'

>>60848314
>he thinks anyone ITT is running linux on bare metal
linux is cool for toying around, but not in any way near a windows replacement
(sorry for destroying your dreams tho)

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>>60848396
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

I'm using Elementary os and it's great but bluetooth isn't working.
First the bluetooth panel icon wasn't appearing and I couldn't send files via bluetooth through the file manager. So I entered "bluetooth on" in the terminal. Now the icon appeared and I can send files from my laptop to my cellphone but I made my laptop discoverable on bluetooth settings and my cellphone cannot find my laptop and I can't send files to it.
Can anyone help?

>>60848479
conntect with a cable

Arch, how to install the Arch terminal logo?

>>60848499
I might need to use it for something else in the future. Also I cannot receive files from a friend if he doesn't have the cable.

>>60848517
just install oh-my-logo from the AUR

>>60848517
Arch is for advanced users only.
You should start over with Ubuntu.

Kinda dumb question about Gentoo, but how do recompile the kernel? The wiki leaves leaves me with some questions.

I want to use genkernel. Now do I need to go and delete all the files associated with the current kernel, and then run genkernel, or is this done automatically?

>>60848264
About 5 years behind firefox at any given time. Plus qutebrowser crashes if you go on sites like 'guardian.co.uk'. Plus, it's basically a ripoff of firefox addons like Vimpterpretor. The only project has only got like 1 active developer on any given day. For these reasons I would avoid qutebrowser and stick to firefox with whatever addons suit your purpose. If you delve into qutebrowser you're going to come out the other end disappointed. Qutebrowser is basically vaporware: No private browsing mode, no settings manager or commands to set up proxies, no ASM.js, no 'noScript' or similar addons. The only thing it's got going for it is its keyboard shortcuts, small UI and 'config' file, but all three of those features can be achieved in firefox by a vim addon (where qutebrowser steals its sourcecode) and the 'Stylish' addon.

>>60848574
>new users should use distros for retards with lots of proprietary software
no

stop suggesting ubuntu, mint, etc crap

>>60848593
>About 5 years behind firefox
stopped reading here, >>>/r/eddit

>>60848595
New users don't care about the cult of FSF, they just want a working system with sane defaults. That being said, new users should try KDE Neon first.

So is that bandit game a legit way to familiarize yourself with Linux? I've always wanted to break free from my pleb ways.

>>60846919
Linus Torvalds was right: The day that Microsoft started developing for Linux was the day that Microsoft lost to Linus Torvalds.

>>60846926
>>60846978
RMS is a Green Party member. That hardly qualifies as communism.

>>60848628
idgaf if new users dont care, they have to learn that its a different system
distros trying to make gnu/linux like windows as much as possible are cancer

it only creates people crying for "waaaa, why is %random_nonfree_program not available?", converting the system more and more into a normie conform bullcrap os

there is literally nothing wrong with learning new things

>>60846919
how to write a script in bash that renames all the files in a directory? i.e., I have a directory full of wallpapers and I want to rename them all with randomly generator names like 4e1xz3e or something.

Anyone doing Bluetooth audio over Linux?
Did ubuntu 17.04 fix the Bluetooth reconnection bugs?
Is gentoo package manager comfy?
Can I Wayland/xfce in gentoo?

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How do I make money off of gnu/linux?

>>60848693
Really, all you need to know is how to do this in any language and to just port it to bash.

>>60848592
please help

>>60848679
Linus Torvalds is a faggot. The only thing he has in common with Free Software (sorry, he calls it "Open Source" because "Free Software" is for people who do drugs [sic]) is making Linux GPLv2, and he didn't do it for freedoms sake; he did it to get source ccode back.

>The day that Microsoft started developing for Linux
You mean the day Microsoft was partnered with the Linux Foundation to rub their dicks together
in order to make some sheckles for the WSL?

>>60848701
Get your Red Hat certs then apply for a job as a sys admin.

>>60848766
>anyone I don't like is a jew

>>60847337
Found the nigger

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>>60848799
try again

Is there a terminal command to see how long I've had Linux downloaded?

>>60848851
what?

>>60848908
Is there a terminal command I can use to see when I installed linux on my system?

>>60848923

tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 **OR** /dev/sdb1*  | grep 'Filesystem created:'

will tell you when the file system was created, which was probably done at the same you installed the operating system.

>>60848923
I guess you can just look for the oldest file on your computer:

find / -type f -printf '%T+ %p\n' | sort | head -n 1

This may take a little while.

>>60848939
this is unnecessary. do this>>60848938
select sda1, or whatever partition your root is. alternatively you could use whatever partition your home is, if you keep them separate.

>>60848701
Offer tech support for small business

>>60848700
Any help here?
Should I call someone a Jew to get attention?
Richard Torvald is a Jew

>>60848700
>>60849126
>Anyone doing Bluetooth audio over Linux?
>Did ubuntu 17.04 fix the Bluetooth reconnection bugs?
I have no idea.
>Is gentoo package manager comfy?
Not really. Modifying USE flags is just annoying.
>Can I Wayland/xfce in gentoo?
XFCE is not a wayland compositor, so no.

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>>60848153

A true god of screenshots
I'd just like to interject for a moment. Shutter is also a great GUI tool. tons of features, but somewhat heavy...

>>60849147
Thanks for the cold hard truth.
I guess I'll wait for Debian Stretch.

>>60848766
Shut up you don't know what you're talking about.

>>60848938
>filesystem
>linux
>>60848939
lel

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>>60849651
>I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease. I believe in open development, and that very much involves not just making the source open, but also not shutting other people and companies out. There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
>-- Linus Torvalds, linux-mag.com

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>>60847009

>>60847009
You want us to work for free because source mage has no software.

>>60849763
>Free Software is about exclusion and hate.
Well played, Linus. Well played.

>>60849763
He's become a feminist

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>>60846919

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>>60849969

So, now that the dust has sattled, how to break out of the systemd?

The government and the CIA is fucking with my head, they're filling my head with thoughts that aren't my own. They're stalking me and trying to control me, they're trying to get me to crack under psychological stress and torment.

>>60850159
install seroquel

>>60850201
I'm not crazy m8

>>60850282
No one is really crazy. "Crazy" in any DSM. It's just a world people use to refer to things they don't like or don't understand.

There is no need to keep suffering in silence. Go see a psychiatrist.

I don't care if I get made fun of for not understanding Linux. I am trying to install Skype to test the sudo apt-get install. But it's saying E:error package not found.
I try to update my sudo but it says failed to flex..
I have Ubuntu 16.4. What am I doing wrong?

>>60850159
This is why you block advertising.

>>60850610

Get the new verison (Alpha) on the official Skype web page...

Muh features...

>>60850678
I know but I'm just not understanding why sudo apt-get install isn't working for me. I installed Skype via the web page.

>>60850732
"sudo" simply runs the command as administrator(root). apt(of which apt-get is an interface with certain features) is the package manager(software installer).
First question, is skype available on the ubuntu repos?
If it is and you can't find, then it's probably on a repo that you don't have enabled. Open the "software sources" or something like that, and enable proprietary/third-party repos.

>>60850732
You can also use apt search or apt-cache search to search for skype. The name it's under might not be exactly "skype".

>>60850610
And to update stuff, first you run apt-get update to check if there are updates available, then apt-get upgrade to upgrade any packages.

>>60850784
It'll sound kind dumb but when I try to upgrade or update. It says its failed to upgrade.

>>60850784
Failed to fetch is the term its telling me. Would you recommend me reinstalling Linux Ubuntu 16.04?

>>60850808
Can you post the entire message here? You can copy and paste in the terminal with ctrl shift c/v. Sometimes it fails to download some databases that are not important.

Did you manage to install skype ? You have to go to software & updates and enable the partners repo.

>>60850829
Of course give me a few minutes and I'll post it. I managed to install it from its web page, not in the terminal. I did install Spotify and qbittorrent. Anyways give me about 5 minutes.

>>60850850
E: Malformed entry 56 in list file /etc/apt/sources.list (Component)
E: The list of sources could not be read.
first issue

>>60850896

cp /etc/apt/sources.list ~/dick.txt[\code]

There will be a dick.txt in your home directory. Post it here.

>>60850969
Fuck sake.

My ultimate goal is to install Arch Linux and be proficient using it. Right now I've just installed ubuntu and have 0 knowledge of using the terminal. I don't even know most of the computer terms such as shell and sudo are because I have no background in computer science. How am I supposed to git gud from here?

>>60851060
time plus sweat and cum

Can anyone recommend a systemd-less distro that just werks/is not shit?

>>60851060
Install Arch in a VM, just follow the guide. You'll have learned a lot by the time you realize you fucked it up entirely somehow.

>>60848517

Type this

curl https://pastebin.com/raw/0akbv3gm

if I just want the barest minimum gnome install on archlinux is installing the 'gnome-shell' package what I should do? It pulls in a bunch of other stuff but it's less than trying to just install 'gnome'.

>>60846919
i don't know why but to me op pic looks like a hunting photo with all of them happy holding the corpse of tux

>>60850030
Install Devuan or install Gentoo.

>>60851708
gnome-shell should only install GNOME3 shell.
gnome also installs some programs
gnome-extra installs even more shit

>>60851060
Just look up some tutorials on youtube. Basic terminal commands are not hard.

Arch was my second distro. I installed it after about 2-3 months of using GNU/Linux and I also didn't know almost anything. True, back then there was a Beginner's Guide section at the Arch wiki which guided you through the install process like you're 10 years old. Nowadays the install guide is still fairly straightforward but I think it's a bit confusing to the new users.
But you can always just practice in a VM. if you fuck something up, just reset and try again. You'll be fine.

>>60850610
If you are a beginner it's probably better to use the Software Center, at least for searching.
You can also search through the terminal with the apt command. Just type "apt search package-name" and it will list all packages with that name. Then just use "sudo apt install package-name" to install it.

Which distro provides the best memes?

>>60847891
GNU style arguments go like this.

>Long options are prefixed with -- ie
--long-option.
The have a short equivalent followed by single -l
And short options can be lumped together so instead of doing
-l -s -r -f
You do
-lsrf

>>60848655
>that bandit game
?

Arch user here interested in NixOS, GuixSD (only distros to have made me interested in switching), anyone with reports from the trenches ?

What are the pros and cons after using any of these systems for a while ?

>>60852818
guixsd ix nixos enhanced.
But it's a libre distro iirc so beware

>>60852818
pros:
>not being arch

cons:
>

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>>60851732
Good meme potential.

>>60848680
This.
The point of GNU/Linux is software freedom. Sure Adobe probably can port Photoshop and other crapware over here, and we can in theory get all the Windows programs, but that would be a disaster.
The point is to have free alternatives. The point is to have GIMP, Krita, Ardour, LMMS, LibreOffice, Mumble, Tox, even if they have less features than the propertiary programs.
GNU/Linux is not just about having or not having Skype or Photoshop. If you want Adobe or other non-free programs, use Windows or MacOS. In this community we value freedom.

why can't linux play back videos in the browser without stuttering? It doesn't matter if I use chromium, firefox with xorg or wayland, whenever I try to play a video on youtube I can't get smooth scrolling. I always have to play shit with mpv which is fucking stupid because who knows how long that will actually work before companies lock it down.

>>60852888

Get a better computer.

>>60852888
Never had a problem with this. Maybe it's your graphics card/driver?

>>60852861
This, but
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Alternative

>>60852902
computer is fine. The videos play back fine, they just aren't 100% smooth.

>>60852908
I use intel open source driver.

>>60852861
>Sure Adobe probably can port Photoshop and other crapware over here, and we can in theory get all the Windows programs, but that would be a disaster.
Adobe software on GNU/Linux would be a disaster because Adobe programmers are a bunch of clueless codemonkeys straight outta Mumbai.

Microsoft PAID Adobe massive amounts of cash so that they would sit and make Adobe products work on Windows properly because It was fucking plagued with problems.

Just imagine what kind of job they would do if suddenly decided that supporting a 2.5% share of desktop users would be great idea. Absolutely horrible.

this is how I test. Watch this video https://youtu.be/HGoa65UjBJs?t=20s. Now watch the text that scrolls on the top and bottom of the screen. That text should scroll 100% smoothly without any stuttering. However this doesn't happen on linux.

>>60852961
Also true but why I said it would be a disaster is because GNU/Linux shouldn't just be a "Windows/Mac alternative" that runs the same programs.
We need to teach people that free software is better, not let them keep using that shit.

>tfw want to use a totally free distro like Trisquel or Dragora but have an intel wifi card which needs non-free firmware to work

Guess I am gonna stay on Debian then

>>60846926
He's smart enough to know communism is a failure. He's a democratic socialist.

>>60852965
>hat text should scroll 100% smoothly without any stuttering.
No it doesn't, the stuttering is in the video file.

Nice ruse though I'll admit that. If I didn't download the file and play it from the drive I'd believe you.

>>60853005
use the free distro, just install the non-free firmware on it
it might not be in the repos but you can get it manually

>>60853027
um what? There is no stuttering in the video file.

>>60853005
dev-1.org

>>60853039
There is, I just checked on an offline copy.

>>60847269
qemu-system-x86_64 -m 2G -hda /home/anon/templeos.img -hdb TOSSupplemental.ISO

>>60853028
I guess I can do this with Trisquel by installing the package from Debian. Will try.

>>60853040
I wanted to do a switch when testing goes stable. Will devuan update once Debian Stretch releases as stable?
I am currently on Debian testing so I don't know if it's compatible right now.

>>60853066
>Will devuan update once Debian Stretch releases as stable?
It will be called Devuan Ceres i think.

>>60850159
ask god then and fill your head with his wisdom:

#!/bin/bash

#This prints ten random words.

echo "$(shuf -n 10 /usr/share/dict/words --random-source=/dev/urandom | tr '\n' ' ')"

>>60848264

Security in minimal stand-alone browsers like qutebrowser depends a lot what the browser is based on. None (I hope?) of those browsers implement their own rendering, but they use some kind of library - so it boils down to whether that's up-to-date.

In the case of qutebrowser, you can use it with either QtWebEngine which is based on Chromium or QtWebKit (which is based on an up-to-date upstream WebKit, if you use the updated version of it).

So apart from things like UI security bugs (which are rare, and also happen in the big browsers), its security is equal to Chromium's essentially (with the QtWebEngine backend).

>>60848593
> About 5 years behind firefox at any given time.

Bullshit.

> Plus qutebrowser crashes if you go on sites like 'guardian.co.uk'.

Works fine for me. If it's a segfault, that's a bug in the backend you're using and not qutebrowser itself. If you use legacy QtWebKit, well, don't.

> The only project has only got like 1 active developer on any given day.

A big difference to big browsers is that qutebrowser doesn't have its own rendering or network stack - it uses either QtWebKit or QtWebEngine for that, which have dozens of full-time developers working on them.

> Qutebrowser is basically vaporware: No private browsing mode

It does since April 2014.

> no settings manager

:set shows you a page with all settings; since November 2014.

> or commands to set up proxies

I dunno, you must live in the past. ":set network proxy", May 2014.

> no ASM.js

Works fine with the QtWebEngine backend; probably going to come soon with QtWebKit: https://webkit.org/blog/7691/webassembly/

> no 'noScript' or similar addons.

Whoa, at least something that's true. Going to change in a few weeks though, at least for NoScript-like functionality.

> in firefox by a vim addon (where qutebrowser steals its sourcecode)

Wait a second, Firefox has addons written in Python? That's a new one.

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>>60853105

carbohydrate incomprehensible metepimeral alumnal tabour immaculance preconcentratedly angellike Myrsinaceae weaving

what did god mean by this??

Dragora installer is comfy af.

>>60853271
The distro itself, not so much.

I'm trying to import some keys and GPG always gives me this error:

$ gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu EB763B4E9DB887A6
gpg: keyserver receive failed: Server indicated a failure

Other servers have the same response.
It's a clean Arch machine and I'm not sure what I could have managed to break so quickly.

Any suggestions on how to fix this?

>>60853447
worked on my machine (R)(TM)

try it with a clean ~/.gnupg directory?

>>60853511
Same.
I rebuilt the pacman keyring too, just in case. Nothing changed.

>>60853518
then try running gpg with --verbose --verbose (yes, 2 times) to see if it wants to say more about "Server failure: something happened"

>>60853542
Nope.

> $ gpg -vvv --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://pgp.mit.edu EB763B4E9DB887A6
gpg: using character set 'utf-8'
gpg: keyserver receive failed: Server indicated a failure

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How true is pic related?

>>60853659
After years of distro hopping and being a regular in desktop threads a lot of people end up using debian/ubuntu rather than muh bleeding edge/FOTM garbage distros.

>>60853659
>>60853678
I try new distros all the time but somehow always end up going back to Debian.

>>60853659
Ubuntu has systemd.
Not very true

>>60853716
It's not difficult to switch from systemd to another init like SysV, openrc, or BSD style plaintext config files.

>>60854630
A lot of components depend on systemd, so unless your system repositories have patched versions like Gentoo or Devuan there's no fucking chance you'll be removing systemd any time soon.

On fedora for example it is impossible. Trying to remove systemd via package manager results in an error

what text editor do you use?

I've been using emacs in daemon mode for quite some time. It's a memory hog though. I've been trying to slim down my installation.
I tried to get into vi/vim but fuck I have no idea whose idea was to introduce the whole mode switching but it's terrible.

>>60854750
vim everywhere.
mode switching is annoying until it becomes second nature, and it's great after that. it has many benefits. not getting "emacs pinky" is one of them.

>>60854908
Is there a replacement for tramp mode? Ie. using your local vim setup on a remote server.

>>60855061
Not as far as I'm aware.
I just copy ~/.vim and ~/.vimrc to my servers. Not the most convenient thing in the world, but it works.

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>>60846919
Is there anything like arc flatabulous for KDE? I like the colorful window controls, and I find myself going back and forth between it and cinnamon trying to decide which I like more

Is there a manual way to wake up a thread?
I have an application which is currently hanging (futex_wait_queue_me), but there is nothing that competes with any resources.
I spend a lot of time on a project, so I rather not kill the process if there is a way to save it.
Is there?

>>60846919
what program is he using to write teh code?

>>60847638
>No firewall enabled by default
what for? arch doesn't have any ports open

>>60855114
kdelook.org has been replaced by store.kde.org.
I am not familiar with this specific theme, but maybe you can find something you will like.
You can also install it directly from kde.

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i3fags how do you undo this?

>>60855102
That's too bad.
I noticed that out of the box vi is linked to vim-tiny on debian/devuan. Do you recommend getting the full package? I do not plan to put eyecandy everywhere, just basic features to make it usable.

Also, do you have a decent tutorial how to get into vim?

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Why is everything so huge, I'm starting to feel claustrophobic

>>60855206
Move it to another workspace Alt+Shift+whatever the number

>>60855241
I always install the vim-nox package.
As for tutorials, the basic stuff is covered in the vimtutor file, I don't know of a good primer that will teach you how to do everything you are used to in a regular editor.

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>>60855202
I peeked around a bit but they don't have a way to sort through KDE4 and KDE5 themes which is kind of irritating.

man I kind of miss KDE4. It was a good DE

>>60855276
Pretty sure that's just the way the GTK3 file picker handles the "other locations" tab. I've never had it look different. Everything else is still a normal size I'm sure. Because GNOME devs are literally looking for excuses not to improve their file picker.

Like, it's mind boggling to me how much mundane shit they manage to find to do.

>>60855241
>Do you recommend getting the full package?
Umm... sure?
I only know of 2 versions of vim packaging: vim and gvim (gvim package has an additional GUI version of vim).

There's a billion visual vim learning resources online, even game-like tutorials. I don't remember how I learned vim, but it wasn't through one of those.

I can offer some advice:
1) For packaging, use vim-plug. It's the latest and greatest.
2) Start learning and using cool moves as early as possible. Like dd to delete a line (or cc to change a line), and many many more. It's the best part of vim and make you faster at performing the monotonous editing tasks.
3) Don't sweat the hjkl navigation. Arrow keys are fine too.

>>60855206
Mod+E?

>>60855344
there is an arc theme, is that close enough?

I miss kde4 too, I don't like it when they remove features instead of fixing bugs.
If kde5 had widgets, it would be pretty good.

>>60855344
I mean even the bottom download list bar is huge, Thunar seems huge as well

>>60855382
I use arc on KDE yeah, that's my usual go to theme. it is a quite nice theme.

It's weird what a departure KDE5 was from KDE4. It's been years now and we are just now getting to a stable release

>>60855424
Oh I hadn't noticed. If I was a betting man, it looks like you might have a problem with your GTK theme. Looks like it defaulted on a shitty theme. Did you update recently?

>>60855424
that's chromium desu - it's like that
the little window's buttons is adwaita - use another theme for that
everythings normal get a bigger monitor

>>60855526
no his gtk theme is fine
he just needs to select another one

>>60846919
Trying to install Debian Stable from a usb stick (on an Asus E403S Eeebook).
The installer can't detect my network card.
Using lspci in a shell session I see that my required network driver is Intel Wireless 7260.
Based on this https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi it is included in the iwlwifi driver.

After my installer alerts me that it doesn't detect my network card it shows me a list of drivers and says that If I know my drivers name I can select it from the list. Now I try to select iwlwifi (which is included in the list) but it has no effect. Pressing enter or clicking/choosing the continue option only sends me right back to the same screen.
What do?

Is there something similar to ASIO for lunix? Not too concerned with quality, just need something with very low latency.

Hey people

I'm about to install GNU/Linux on a Thinkpad T60, it has a T2400 and 2GB DDR2, do I install i686 or x86-64? Do I have any advantages installing the 64bit version with this amount of RAM?

I think I will try Manjaro because I want to try pacman without the hassle of Arch

>>60855923
There are no real advantages of going 64bit at 2GB RAM, however if you are going to install more RAM (which you totally should, 2GB is barely enough sadly in $__CURRENT_YEAR) and you already have a x64 OS you don't have to reinstall to take full advantage of it.

>>60847694

man glxgears

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Should I install Ubuntu on this?

>>60856013
The T60 is 11 years old, I'm pretty sure 4GB is the maximum

I'm going with x64 anyway just in case

how do install java on ubuntu 16.04? cant get eclipse running either

>>60856064
Unclog that CPU fan and heatsink first.

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>>60851522
Ausum!

>>60848923
neofetch shows install date something like this...

ls -tcd --full-time /lost+found/

>>60856114
no

I installed debian and it's great except that it's fucking up when i have more than a few windows open or a few videos open

I'm assuming it's something to do with my AMD GPU

What drivers should i be using?

>>60851298
but systemd just werks and is not shit.

>>60853105
$PS1 to random user & host.

 _() { shuf -n 1 /usr/share/dict/words | sed "s/'s$//; s/.*/\l&/"; }; PS1="\[\e[1;31m\]$(_)\[\e[m\]@\[\e[1;35m\]$(_)\[\e[m\]\$ "

>saved from old "post your PS1" thread.

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How do I install ubuntu?

>>60847079
Is not

>>60847009
>All of those hobbit and wizard references
This may just be the most cancerous distro I've EVER encountered.

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I thought wifi was supposed to work out of the box with linux?

I booted up an Ubuntu liveUSB and it seemed to not recognize my wireless adapter at all

>>60856608
You're using a broadcom device, aren'tcha?

>>60846919
haha its le loonix guys standing in front of an ms logo

keep fighting the god fight flkktydrtyusdrtsrt

Why gentoo is so slow when installing packages?

>>60856621
correct

>>60856650
Broadcom hates linux

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>>60856608
>>60856621

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share ya fetches

>>60856650
broadcom support is terrible with linux save for the old devices which the free driver supports (with firmware).

Consider getting either
-a Ralink device (they work with firmware)
-an Atheros device (100% libre operation)

>>60856650
I'm so sorry to hear that. It's doable in some cases, but I've never been fortunate enough to get broadcoms to work.

>>60856733

Does anyone know where the fug can I find a devuan testing iso?

>>60856733

See this >>60856117 >>60851522

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>>60856903
>>60856733
Forgot the fetch

>>60856903
there is a mini.iso for stable here:
https://auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/


Normally, it's almost the same path but jessie replaced with testing, but it's 404 right now. Your best chance is to download the jessie iso, do a minimal installation, upgrade to testing and install the rest of your system after.

So after I fell in love with LInux MInt I decided to install GNOME to another laptop but I really hate it and it runs so slow.

My problem is simple.
I can\t figure out how to write LIVE USB on Linux Mint. Most of the programs I used don\t even work or if they do write something on USB it doesnt boot on GNOME.

Any suggestion what program I should use to make Live USB.

>>60857070
Just use dd.

dd if=path/to/iso of=/path/to/drive status=progress

>>60857133
Note: double check the drive path so you dont accidentally overwrite your hdd with this. That's why this command is also known as "disk destroyer".

>>60857133
>no bs parameter

dd if=path/to/iso of=/path/to/drive bs=2M status=progress

reads then writes 2 megabytes at once, speeding up things for flash drives

>>60857070
This works extremely well:
https://github.com/openSUSE/imagewriter
It might be in your distro repos.

>>60857238

How does one use this?
Honestly I am using Mint cause its fast to browse porn. I have no clue how Terminal works or how to install this. If its not .exe im fucked you know.

>>60857287
I've never used Mint so I can't really give you any specifics other than, open up your software center and search imagewriter.

Linux will never get you guys a girlfriend.

>>60856064
Yeah, should be spiffy.

>>60857287
>Only using a GNU/Linux distro to watch porn
>watching porn

but since this is a friendly thread,
open up the terminal and type
sudo apt install imagewriter
or just use the software center or however they call it in Mint.

>>60857361
better no gf than a gf that doesn't use free software

You've done it, /fglt/. I unironically, literally cringe IRL now when someone mentions "open source" or "Linux" and have to actively calm myself down lest I burst into a rant on why software freedom is more than just freedom 1, and why it's (usually) GNU/Linux they're referring to.
Hope you're happy.

>>60856117
is OpenBox really the designated ricershitter WM?
Feels bad man

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>>60857287
It's super easy to write a Live iso to a usb flash drive. Just open up the terminal and type in lsblk to identify the name of the drive (you can tell which it is by the size, eg is it a 4gb drive?) then use the dd command along with the sync command with root prvileges to write the iso to the drive.

>>60857376
I did this to myself fairly recently while watching tons of youtube videos and reading up on GNU.
I asked for it.

>>60857361
Why the fuck would you even tell someone what OS you use?

>>60847587
Reading a book with a fun title doesn't imply relevant knowledge - what is it you are trying to gain from the deep knowledge?

That said, you started the book. Quit looking for reasons to not finish it.

>>60857323

Thank you and everyone else for not bullying me.
Got it working!

>>60857371

Chrome is so fast here and so is everything else. With WinOS I only had sound while video was shitting bricks. No matter what broswer I used it always lagged. I

>>60846919
Hi. So, recently I installed Fedora as a secondary boot, considering the installation I made of Trisquel was too much freedom for a dummie like me and I couldn't get the ethernet working, kek.

Thing is, the built-in gnome software app used to install new programs doesn't display anything. What is a good alternative?

>>60857361
if your os is the most interesting thing about you you probably don't have one either lol

>>60857382

You're an idiot if you let internet satire and jokes influence your usage of things.
Kill yourself.

>>60857535
Even the simplest programs shit themselves on Windows lol.

>>60857543
Just use the terminal. Fedora's packet manager is fast af
I believe you can just use dnf search and dnf install.

>>60857587
You're an idiot if you thought it actually did influence anything.

>>60856064
>82 degrees on a mobile Intel chip
Nice cooling you got there anon
>My Lenovo n100 3000 on full load
40 degrees

>>60857604
Thanks senpai, I'll look more into it

>>60856064
you need to change the thermal paste, clean the fan and apply some oil on the rotational ax

temperature should be something like 50 deg

if i'm not wrong, your chipset might or might not be locked to an i3 generation cpu. if it's not, that particular architecture is socketed, so you can actually upgrade to an i7 and with a bios update or depending on the chipset to an ivy bridge also

both used the G2 upgradable socket and the price is something like $20 for second hand mobile ivy bridges

>>60857604
>packet manager
The word you're thinking of has two equivalents in English. Packets are tiny morsels of data going through a network - software bundled for distribution is a package.

>>60847038
sucks cocks, old software

arch with openrc, pclinuxos, linux mint 17 with upstart / ubuntu 14 or openrc arch linux are way better options

slackware is also one but retarded pkg system

Reminder that debian stretch gets released this very friday.

>>60857745
It ain't gonna be old for much longer
see >>60857761

>>60857780
The preparations for the next devuan release will most likely begin as soon as stretch is released. It won't take as long as jessie did.

so today while i was off at work my parents texted me saying they had a bunch of problems with the internet. so i tried to access my rutorrent online but couldn't connect and then i tried to ssh in and also could not connect. im dont really know if rtorrent was causing the problems and ive left it alone plenty of times before without any trouble, but im still a little worried that it may be a bit to aggressive so i want to do something about it. also it seems like a pretty good idea anyways

right now I allow connection through a tor hs only for both the ssh server and rutorrent because of the nat-punching abilities and because i already have tor connected 99% of the time anyway, so i figure some kind of shut-off could be based on that

tl;dr: how hard would it be to write a script that tells rtorrent to pause all traffic if tor doesn't say that it is connected, and then start seeding and stuff again once the connection is fine? i have no real programming experience

NO IM NOT TORRENTING OVER TOR AND THIS IS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT TORRENTING OVER TOR ONLY SSH TRAFFIC AND THE WEB UI IS GOING OVER TOR

>>60858038
Can you explain to me what you're trying to achieve posting this stupid thing here?

It's nowhere near being inflammatory enough to qualify as bait.

>>60858097
an answer

>>60857780
which means near up to date ~now, old shit in 5 months or so

>>60858184
Use testing then

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>>60852849
fix your fonts desu
and use quality settings from original image when you export

>>60856418
you prepare a partition for / and maybe one for /home and click next

Is wayland ready for daily use now?

whats the best file manerger
not really bothered about aesthetic just functionality

>>60858922
I use Thunar but honestly Dolphin is pretty fuckin sick
It's got split view mode, it can show a terminal at the bottom, and it's customizable as fuck

>>60858922
pcmanfm is good

>>60858922
dolphin is probably the closest you'd come to a file manager with every feature, unfortunately it suffers from being a KDE thing.

gtk wise probably pcmanfm. Like thunar, but better. And it has dual pane mode.

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>>60848153

>>60857535
>Got it working!
Excellent.

Why are people against wayland when Xorg is a bloated mess that has features that the kernel and other libraries now do and can take hours to compile?

>>60848099
Apparently some tool called 'import' was already installed for me, just do import /tmp/screenshot.png and you can select a portion of the screen like Windows snipping tool. Otherwise scrot is used the same but captures the whole screen.

>>60859089
Because it's being hailed as the messiah, but it's been released as a broken piece of shit. I want it to succeed in the worst way, but for fucks sake, why do they insist on starting off on the wrong foot? Why rush Wayland out to users if it's only going to piss people off?

>>60859116
Apparently import is part of imagemagick but yeah it's basically Linux snipping tool.

>>60859089
It's just not finished.

>>60859156
>Why rush Wayland out to users
are you serious

everybody has been asking "when is wayland gonna ship" for literally years.
it's not rushed in any way.

>>60859215
see>>60859210

new bread when

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>>60859260

NEW THREAD >>60859413
NEW THREAD >>60859413
NEW THREAD >>60859413
NEW THREAD >>60859413

what's the best book for gitting gud at linux? i've used it for years, but the places i'm applying to want you to have in-depth knowledge of it

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>>60858870
senpai

>>60855616
This is probably a non-free firmware issue. The default installer doesn't ship with any nonfree firmware, and the default apt sources.list only has the free repos enabled.

The easiest way to solve this is to not bother solving it in the installer. Plug in an ethernet cable, install Debian, then edit sources.list to enable to nonfree repos, apt update and install your firmware, restart.

Hi, I have been looking for this for a long time, but even google-fu can't help me because I don't know how to ask it, so I come here hoping someone will understand:

I want my debian PC to automount a drive when I connect it and it recognizes said drive from a list of GUIDs. What command/what system part keeps track of what is connected? I could run a cronjob every minute, but that seems too slow. How do YOU do it?

>I just don't wanna mount manually, pls halp

>>60862335
Nevermind, found it, maybe someone else will find it useful:

https://ddumont.wordpress.com/2016/04/24/automount-usb-devices-with-systemd/

Once I worded my question here, all the lingo fell into place and I told DDG. Thanks!

So I'm a redhat dude that got put on an arch project at work. Pacman was broken as fuck and it took me literally all day to figure out what was wrong. Now archiso is broken. so there any end to this? It's a live CD that they're trying to maintain

>>60848574
How are people supposed to git gud without being challenged?
For many people just throwing themselves into it is best.

Linux is the worst OS ever made.
>Bloated distros
>DE Constantly changing
>Ask for your password every 10 seconds
>Worst editor ever made (VI was the product of a sick mind)
>No support, you're alone
>No userbase, and scaterred among dozen of distros and DE
>Pointless competition, dozens of distros, dozen of DE, dozen of same softwares doing the same shit, the already small userbase will fight each other over those soft
>It's no longer faster or stable than windows
>Most softwares are subpar compared to their professional counterpart
>Community is shit. Elitists nerds thinking they're the top of their class. Most of the time it's just hobbyist

The only thing linux should be used is web hosting. In my company I often ask applicants if they are using linux, if they say yes and start going on a rant it's an instant no no.

>>60857745
>gentoo with ~amd64

>>60848574
>Arch is for advanced users only.
Lol. Only thing complicated is installing it and still you have arch distro nowadays. The fact that you have the AUR makes it far easier to use and do shit than Ubuntu.

Stop thinking you're some kind of elite because you use Arch, you're not

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>>60862621
>Bloated distros
Arch, Gentoo, Void, Alpine... not bloated.
Also: >implying Windows or Mac are not bloated
>DE Constantly changing
You have the power to choose one and keep it!
>Worst editor ever made
Well, then.. use nano or gedit?
>No support
Bullshit, IRC, archwiki, gentoowiki, dozens of forums...
>No userbase, and scaterred among dozen of distros and DE
If there's no userbase, how can it be scaterred?
>Pointless competition, dozens of distros, dozen of DE, dozen of same softwares doing the same shit, the already small userbase will fight each other over those soft
This is called customisation. If you don't like KDE, you start developing XFCE. It's not "competition".
>Most softwares are subpar compared to their professional counterpart
What does this have to do with Linux? Nobody forces you to use GNU Octave, you can just buy Mathematica!
>Community is shit. Elitists nerds thinking they're the top of their class. Most of the time it's just hobbyist
Not the hole community, but some are shit, that's right.

>>60848574
Arch is for people comfortable with pacman. I have about 4 years user experience with deb-based systems, I could use Arch, but I have way too many "addictions" for me to move over. I am used to apt-get install everything. Pacman just seems too different for me. Once you start with ubuntu, be ready to stick with debian, if you want to use Arch, start with arch. Took me about 4 hours installing it and getting wifi and USB with only a friend on the phone and no internet connection. 10/10 would do again because since that day I never had problems setting up wireless.

>>60862621
>Linux is the worst OS ever made.
>Bloated distros
Pick a small one, or a pure-cli.
>DE Constantly changing
Not mine, that stays virtually always the same because I have a certain work that gets done better with it.
>Ask for your password every 10 seconds
Joke's on you, I run as root.
>Worst editor ever made (VI was the product of a sick mind)
Please come back when Windows Explorer allows me to change the first 5 characters of 1000 filenames with one fell swoop while leaving the rest intact.
>No support, you're alone
>>>>/fglt/
>No userbase, and scaterred among dozen of distros and DE
You have a userbase for each of the programs you use. Granted, uzbl has shit support, but then again it's so niche it may as well not exist.
>Pointless competition, dozens of distros, dozen of DE, dozen of same softwares doing the same shit, the already small userbase will fight each other over those soft
Or they will work together as seen here. If I know the answer, I'll help.
>It's no longer faster or stable than windows
Sure, but linux still boots faster and shuts down like a bar full of rats.
>Most softwares are subpar compared to their professional counterpart
People still develop commercial software, so this point is null. If you really must have it, buy it.
>Community is shit. Elitists nerds thinking they're the top of their class. Most of the time it's just hobbyist
That's the arch pleb talking inside you, Debian stronk
>The only thing linux should be used is web hosting. In my company I often ask applicants if they are using linux, if they say yes and start going on a rant it's an instant no no.
Well good I don't wanna work for you
>Hi, do you know X?
>Yeah, I know this, that and the other part of X
>Ok, goodbye. Fuck you for knowing something I don't like.

Never bit a bait so hard it hurt my teeth but here I am.

>>60852773
overthewire.org/wargames/bandit

Or just overthewire, dunno. It's for learning the different commands so that you can quickly solve problems.

best way to learn, IMO. Doing codingbat for python now, it's much more fun solving shit than learning by examples.

I'm pulling a total brain-fart right now.

I just re-installed Solus after floating a few distros on my laptop and for some reason it will only install Ruby 2.2.4, updated and upgraded all packages and it still only pulls 2.2.4.

Anyone have any suggestions?