/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

FIRST FOR MACBOOKS!

first for hail the dell e6440

chinknovo fags wish they had this.

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Post thinkpad and coffee right now!

>>60819962
>imafuckingfag the picture quite literally
kys yourself m8

>>60819976
>Kys poster
I bet you frog post too faggot

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>>60820014
frogposting is immortal lad

just bought an x220 with an i5 off of ebay for $115, bit excited

You should have paid 50 max.

>>60820637
never found anything under a hundred that wasn't badly damaged to the point that you needed to invest way more to repair

>>60820804
lurk moar

Looking at a new T450s on ebay. Posting says it comes with three year manufacturer warranty.

Is that three year warranty starting from the T450s was bought by the reseller or from when I receive it?

>>60821237
>Is that three year warranty starting from the T450s was bought by the reseller or from when I receive it?
are you by chance, a little bit on the spectrum?

>>60821260
Fuck, I edited it without reading it again.
Should be:
>Is that three year warranty starting from when the T450s was bought by the reseller or from when I receive it?
Not hard to figure out, desu, so you might be on the spectrum.

>>60821287
that's not how warranties work retard.

>>60821326
So how do they work? I don't know so I am asking you fucking sperg.

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>>60819912

Has anyone here replaced the LCD screen on a x200?

I have this x200 with libreboot, and yesterday I got my AFFS. I previously checked that I had CCFL, and installed the screen with no so much incidence. (Although I had to remove the tactile glass from the AFFS).

The thing is, that when the screen turns on, the inverter goes *beeeeEEEEEP* and the screen goes off. If i manage to restart the screen (say, by attaching a secondary monitor) and lower the brightness before the beep death occurs, the screen stays on, but very very dim.

Is it possible that I have a short in the AFFS panel? (how could I check?) Or is libreboot handling the inverter wrong? (could be, because since I installed it, the inverter beeps if the screen brightness is set to less than 100%).

Has anyone run into these kind of problems?

>>60821360
>libreboot
>Windows 7

>>60821405

The photo in >>60821360 is a result from google. It's not my x200.

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Lads, i need some quick opinions

I can get this for 1000 AUD

good idea?

>>60821538

>7th generation i7
>Acceptable Nvidia 940M
>Shitton of RAM

Looks good. That OS tho...

>>60821538
Wait for Ozbargain deals, saw similar config for like $800 other day

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comfy 2570p

Is Thinkpad X301 for ~$130 alright?
Is it much different from T410 that I'm using right now?
Should I get it and sell the T410?

>>60821710
>comfy 2570p
the goat

>>60821717
it's really slow but it's one of my favorite lenovo chinkpads. the keyboard is goat.

>>60821724
Thanks, I guess I'll keep the T410. I'm quite satisfied with its performance. It's a pity that I can't play games on it though.

>>60822081
sry for this, I need advice regarding a thinkpad x301, is it really underpowered for office, web broswing listetnig to music and watching videos and ofc shitposting

>>60822105
Yes.

>>60819912
Posting my post from previous thread, because I didn't get any answers.
>So am in pajeetland for a business trip and I'm thinking of buying a t420(150-180$) here. Do you think pajeets can scam me by replacing original internals with duplicate, substandard ones? If so, which parts should I be aware of that can be duplicated ones?

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>>60821756
Save up for a T430 if you wanna game
Pic rel
I posted this last thread to show the T430 didn't overheat under real world load

>>60822262
They might replace the thermal paste with poo.
Okay serious answer this time, the only parts worth a shit are the cpu, ram, battery and charger. Maybe the HDD. Worst case you get a busted HDD, worn or fake battery and a knock off charger which even in europooristan is like 50 usd for all three.
So if it boots it's probably fine
I'd carry a copy of your favorite benchmark, preferably something lightweight like Intel burn test and maybe some hardware info program though I guess device manager works too for just checking the specs
Oh and don't forget to check for the regular shit
Bios password, computrace, physical damage, overheating, cum(or poo) under the keys
Just because they a different type of brown don't mean they don't steal

Any one have chinkpad guide in .jpg? I know it's outdated but still.

>>60821287
Can I get an answer, pls?

1. How to tell if they battery in a used x220/230 is genuine or not?

2. How is 768p vs 1080p for reading PDFs and ebooks?

>>60823330
More:
3. I used to have an Acer laptop back from 2001. By 2006 years screen became very dim even at max settings. Do x220/230 suffer from that? What's the rule of thumb when screen is on its way out?

4. What software tools should I use test used thinkpad when shopping around?

5. When traveling, what screwdriver type will suffice to remove all screws?

Is this battery ok to purchase for an x220? I am buying one without a battery. Any concerns I should have about it being listed as not tested, but sealed?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Battery-52-6-Cell-0A36286-ThinkPad-X220t-X220-Tablet-X220i-/132190206671?hash=item1ec7267acf:g:M08AAOSwcgNZFJXw

>>60823330
>>60823672
1. doesn't really matter, they're going to be out of warranty anyways, it either holds a charge or it doesn't

2. subjective, depends on dpi if you ask me, 1366x768 at 12.5" works fine IMO

3. modern LED backlit screens don't really dim or wear out like that

4. would not bother, if it boots into the BIOS it will tell you what CPU it has and how much RAM it has, it'll also tell you the model number and serial number which you can look up on Lenovo's site that tell you the original hardware specs, usually these things either function or they don't, so as long as its physically OK and powers on then it should work fine

5. a small phillips head screwdriver, magnetized would be handy

Why is linux support for pen and touch input so SHIT?
Windows 10 is fantastic by comparison.

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>>60819912
serious question, i have a x220 and I notice the battery drains over night when i put it into sleep mode, im using linux mint

any solutions??

>>60823848
no, a tablet battery will not work in the non-tablets

and being a $15 battery... it's probably junk

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>>60823867
...shut it down? sleep mode is low power usage not no power usage

>>60823867
>>60823904
it goes from 90% to 30% overnight, is that normal??

>>60823931
what condition is the battery in? no that's probably not normal

>>60823855
1. Ok, but I still want to know.
Are non-genuine as good as genuine?

2. Is 768p easier in the eyes than 1080p for reading?

3. ok

4. How would I test memory, whether laptop overheats and etc though?

5. ok

>>60823990
its oem battery bought from lenovo, capacity is 100%

Is this a good deal on a x220?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-5Ghz-4GB-320GB-Webcam-Windows-7-Pro-12-5-Laptop-/401180956323#viTabs_0

>>60823998
1. they can be
2. yes, no, maybe, depends on the screen quality, size, DPI, how far away you're sitting
4. memory either works or it doesn't, overheating can be fixed easily

>>60824011
install TLP

>>60824106
>no pictures of a used product
I would not, also you can get X230's for <$200 which have USB 3.0 and significantly better GPU power

>>60824159
>install TLP
installed since day one

Anyone got charge balancing to work on Linux? I'm aware that it is supported with the tp-smapi module, but it is only partially supported on the t420...

>>60824159
Thanks anon! I will go with the x230 as you have suggested. If I am getting it to learn Java will I be ok with the i5 or do I need an i7? I will also plan on maxing out the ram, installing a ssd, and running Ubuntu.

>>60824280
for programming you probably want the old style keyboard of the x220, on the x220 i7 has a usb 3.0 port, i5 only 2.0

>>60821626
>NVidia 940MX
>Acceptable

Why even bother, dGPUs in T series are and always have been shitty last-gen G*108 chips. The only thing they do is make using Linux on them 1000x harder.

t. T430 + NVS 5400m owner

do all x220 models have mSATA slot?
my is 4291TGP how do i find out?

>>60824463
>T series
Fuck, meant ThinkPads other than P/W series.

>>60824280
You can learn java even on a pentium 4 so the i5 will be more than enough

>>60824476
>do all x220 models have mSATA slot?

yes

>>60824159
>overheating can be fixed easily
How?

>>60824501
by cleaning the fan and vents usually, it's not rocket science

>>60823039
Thank you m8, big help!

I found a w520 with 8gb ram an i7 2670qm a 320gb hdd for $250 should I buy it

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What do we have here

WHERE DO I GO ON THIS NEPALESE BASKET WEAVING FORUM IF I WANT TO DISCUSS BIGGER LAPTOPS?

>>60825267
A shaky fucking hand

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>>60821710
>not quad core
>>60822697
>hd4000
>gayming
unless you enter full autism mode and get quad core CPU with 1,30/1,35GHz iGPU and 2133MHz RAM this will be painful to use.

>>60825348
>literally 55 ish fps on mgstpp on low @ 720p with trash tier ram
Whatever you say man

>>60825287
W series, P70/P71, 8770W with dreamcolor or you go to >>>/v/ if you want a pile of shit with "good" hardware

>>60825383
>playing shit games with lowest settings possible

>>60825418
>he expects to max out games with a 5 yeah year old igpu
You okay?

>buy x220
>install 1080p ips mod

>buy pajeet book
>1366x768 tn forever

ok, i created a walkthrough list when shopping for a used Thinkpad:

>look over the laptop for any signs of physical damage and cum under the keyboard. slightly shake it and listen for any loose components.
>ask if you can take off the lid to look at the internals(memory, cpu, hdd/ssd, wifi)
>turn on the laptop and let it boot to OS. listen for any unusual noises
>look at the screen for any dead/stuck pixels and etc
>reboot laptop into BIOS/UEFI and check to make sure: no supervisor password, computrace is disabled, check cpu and memory specs
>on lenovo website check the service tag for stock specs and warranty
>restart and boot into OS, open a notepad app and test all the keyboard keys
>check with speccy for temperatures
>open web browser go to YouTube and play a vid in 1080p at full volume(no meme vids, don't make the seller uncomfortable, something normie like the "wrecking ball" song will do)
>test wifi and wifi button
>test all ports
>test power adapter and check battery info via preinstalled lenovo battery app(if it isn't installed punch seller in the face then continue)
>if circumstances allow form it, download and play a ranked match of Heroes Of The Storm on low-med settings

what else would you add?

>>60825489
>you can either play on minimal settings or maximum settings!
you're logic. Literally autism.
>>60825495

>buy x220
>dual core trash subcpu forever

>buy HP 2570p
>quad core unlocked i7-3940xm, faster CPU than desktop-class i7-3770k
>install 1080 ips mod
>install 2 SSDs in RAID0 and get 1.2GBps read/write speeds
>install 16GB 2133MT/s RAM (not available in x220/x230)
>install intel 7260ac card
fix'd for you.

>>60825527
>cry because you just spent $1000 upgrade on a piece of shit

>>60825527
type into google "thinkpad X220 vs hp 2570p" and get shit on, son

>>60825558
>being forced to buy old cumstained shitpads because mom doesn't want to give you more money
>crying over literally pocket money being spent on upgrading best 12,5" subnotebook ever produced
Try to find a job instead of shitposting from your NEETpad, senpai.

>>60825576
Why would I google anything when I just proved that x220 is inferior in every aspect?
Use your own words instead of telling someone to visit google, kid.

>>60825581
Why don't you own a fhd pajeet book then?

It should be the first and most desirable upgrade.

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>>60825527
>when your $100 laptop turns into a $800 laptop

why

>>60825600
lol you're in denial
see >>60825558

>>60825606
>It should be the first and most desirable upgrade.
For you maybe?
1366x768 is perfect in my mobile use. No need to increase power consumption and hurt my eyes just to prove something to some autistic NEETs on /g/.
>>60825630
>$800
If you count external 24" lelnopevovo IPS screen, 960 4GB eGPU, USB 3.0 dock station and extra battery, etc. maybe. Otherwise bare laptop with 6cell option and PSU cost me $400 so far.

>>60825645
see
>>60825581
and
>>60825669
you dumb shitposter

>>60825527
>he expects mid tier graphics from a 5 year old igpu on a game that literally lists a gtx 650 as its minimum when your igpu is basically a slightly shittier gt 440
Are you fucking autistic by any chance

>>60825698
My 1.30GHz HD4000 with 2133MT/s RAM and modded drivers handles BF4 with medium/high settings and native resolution at 40FPS.
Are you retarded by any chance?
>inb4 posts some retarded benchmark with no understanding how intel iGPUs performance varies between CPU models
kys

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This is an extremely stupid question.
How did you get used to using the TrackPoint?
Are there certain configs to make it much more useful?

>>60825734
I'm using a quad core too you shit bag
It's literally a worse 440

>>60825682
lol nice projecting.
no one cares about you or your shitbox

>>60825756
whatever kid, hd4000 is pretty good if properly upgraded and if it always works at turbo clocks (which HP ensured in their BIOS, unlike lelnovo lel)
>>60825757
nice shitposting. At first tell stupid shit - gets told. Then responds with shit. Gets told again. Now responds with some more shit and says "noone cares". Yet you respond everytime.
Contain yourself autismo.

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>>60825630
The black pill:

Nobody will upgrade their $150 2012 laptop beyond maybe the panel.

X220 offers a popular, documented path to a drop-in FHD mod.

2570p requires dremeling the entire lid of the laptop in half to make room, leaving a disgusting metal scar. Then you have to adjust the panel with Styrofoam and tape so it somewhat aligns with the bezel.

>>60825669
It's 1366x768. It's TN.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-HP-Elitebook-2570p-B6Q10EA-Notebook.82051.0.html

The brightness is dogshit. It's 185 lumens vs 800 lumens on modern smartphones. You would barely be able to view the screen in a well lit room.

The contrast at 150 is unbelievably bad rivaling the T420. It should be illegal to offer such a display to consumers.

Let's face it, you are using such a dogshit screen because you are forced to. You have no path of upgrade outside of sawing the lid in half.

Okay,

I want 8GB ram, an SSD, 1050Ti or 1060 GPU, screen size 15.6"+, 1080p+.

No budget really

>>60825813
>It's 1366x768
Which is enough for MY needs. Also 90% of laptop users, since this is the most used resolution in all laptop segment, including business.
>It's TN.
Again, it's good. It's power efficient (unlike IPS), it doesn't hurt eyes and it doesn't wear so fast like IPS.
>m-m-muh lumens!
You're fucking retarded, and you clearly don't understand why smartphones got such bright screens. No, it's not to rape battery life, it's to ensure visibility in full sun.
and you're still trying to imply this screen is bad and I shouldn't use it, while I really enjoy it and find it much better than my previous T430 1600x900 cancer tier trash.
Try harder. Also provide source on this "sawing the lid in half" bullshit.

>>60825804
haha because i don't need to prove shit to you, motherfucker

if you really want to be told that badly then here >>60825813

>>60825947
>ahhaah I can shitpost all day and basically I'm fucking stupid, hahaahah
Typical >>>/v/ cancer. Leave
And I already responded to this bullshit. With actual argument, unlike your stupid-ass shitposting attempts.

>>60825900
Link me to a drop in upgrade for the 2570p that doesn't require sawing the lid in half and I'll provide a handwritten apology.

>>60825857
a desktop

>>60825981
Link me to the upgrade instruction of 2570p screen that involves sawing the lid in half and I'll consider proving you wrong once again.

>>60825966
we get it. you would marry your shitbox if you could. good for you. but you don't need to shove it down our throats. 1 of your (enlightening) posts could have been enough.
the fact that you have the need defend yourself shows huge amount of insecurity about your pos laptop and your life choices in general.

>>60826005
xD

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God damnit I'm starting to really enjoy defending 2570p in every /tpg/ I visit.
You guys are worse lenovo shills than paid support pajeets on lenovo forums.
Daily reminder: HP is an American company, while lelnovo belongs to gooks.

>>60826085
that anon ain't joking. what you're asking for is literally a desktop
if you need it for gaming get something like razor stealth or alienware or mid gaming laptop.

>>60826048
>blah blah blah I'm a lenovo faggot and I earn $0.01 for every shill post about lenovo superiority
That's a nice, honest story of you, Rajeet.

>>60826101
How much is for hp2570p/2560p?

>>60826101
you do realize they are still made in china, right?

>>60826156
you're so cute. i don't even own one you ignorant little shit.

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Anybody using the eSata port?

>>60826159
I don't know. Got my i5-3320/4GB/500GB/WWAN/6cell 2570p for $100. Not sure how other configs are usually priced.
>>60826165
Almost everything is produced in china. The point is to support american companies, if you're a patriot of course.

>over 30 filtered posts, all arguing with the HP idiot.

See you guys another day I guess.

>>60826133
How are Dell Inspirons, Asus Predator or ROG?

>>60826200
>you're so cute.
thanks, I know
>i don't even own one
Of course you don't. It's too expensive in your designated shitting country, rajeet.
>you ignorant little shit.
that's very mean, fampai. Please stop

>>60826229
Is the HP 2570p sturdy?

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>tfw you upgrade your old cumstained x230 to 2570p master race

Which one should I buy?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13147804

>>60826025

Not the other guy you're making out with, but the 2570p kinda looks cute. Is there an easy 1080p upgrade? Google comes up with nothing and it's a deal breaker if its stuck with a shit TN panel.

>>60826292
hinges are a little bit worse than t420 ones, but should last for at least 5 years of daily use.
Palmrest and screen casing is made of aluminium, so it's pretty sturdy. Rollcage is also present, just like in x220/x230.

>>60826323
>Is there an easy 1080p upgrade?
>easy
no
>shit TN panel
I'm using 14" 1080p IPS screen in my other laptop every day, just like this stock 12,5" 768p one. And I can ensure you it's far from being shit. But if you really need the IPS option then you should consider x230 instead.

>>60826323
>deal breaker if its stuck with a shit TN panel.
It's perfectly fine you gaymen faggot >>>/v/

>>60825744
I just got used to it, since the trackpad on the computer that I first had one on was complete shit. Now when I use other laptops without them, I look like a retard because I start feeling around in the area where it normally is for a second or so before my brain makes the connection that it isn't there.

I'm looking for my first tablet pc and I've just found two X220T in the same price. I'm going to use Windows 7 and Fedora (most probably with KDE or XFCE4 - depends on which will work better, I prefer KDE) and drawfag's software like Photoshop, Krita and regular browsers kinda Chromuim and Chrome for scrolling the /g/ or watching films on youtube or similar with multiple tabs opened

i7-2640M, 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD or
I5-2520m, 8GB RAM and 1000GB HDD?

>>60826350
I plan to get ~12' laptop, and have yet to decide.
I have T420 that I use daily, but due to my upcoming living condition, I need extra small laptop to carry around with me since I need more space in my bag for clothes, etc.
I was torn between x210/x220/x230, but now I'm considering 2560p/2570]

>>60826240
he's a regular? shiet i fell for the bait then

>>60826303
>>60826303
>>60826303
Ohhh the x220 getting BTFO

>>60825744
I use two hands, one on the trackpont, the other is on the buttons.
It feels awkward at first, but you get to navigate with your hand sideways.

>>60826303
Can someone give me a quick comparison of the HP 2570P and Thinkpad X220 in terms of features?

>>60826430
have you considered using google?

>>60826417
He's here shitting up every thread for over a month now. He went on a break last few threads but now apparently he's got fresh people to bait.

>>60826404
Do you need desktop performance (aka high end quad core CPU, 2133MHz premium RAM, multiple SSDs in hardware RAID, full eGPU support etc) or do you want to simply use it to shitpost and do basic shit?
Because if it's meant to be a shitposting machine you should go with x230 (don't get x220, it's deprecated). In other case get 2570p. It shits all over x230 in performance.

>>60826372

I've already done the 1080p mod on my x220, but the wristrest feels a bit cheap being plastic. The metallic wristrests on the 2570p would solve that.

How hard is not easy? Is it just hard to find because a few links would be fantastic. I can't find anything on google.

>>60826462
>don't get x220, it's deprecated
Why? what happen?

>>60821710
I got a 2560p yesterday, gonna upgrade it to a quad-core, maybe 2670qm. Top comfy points for the OS, I'll hackintosh my 2560p too... currently using Ubuntu m8 as a filler.

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>>60826451

Awe man, kinda disappointed because the magnesium-alloy wristrests would've been a dealmaker for me. :(

>>60826482
>How hard is not easy?
It's not well documented. Some chinks did this on 51nb forums and they confirmed x220/x230 lvds>edp board works. But fitting the new screen in 2570p casing is very hard with lack of free space.
I'd say either accept tn 2570p or get something else.

>>60826553

It's pronounced maw-tay

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>>60826537
Sandy Bridge was always overheating piece of shit compared to Ivy Bridge. x220 has known throttling issues, unlike x230.
>lmao

>>60826561
It's not a bad laptop (the HP), he just makes it look bad by spouting nonsense about how much better it is.

Performance wise it beats the x230, but in everything else it sucks shit.

>>60826592
Then change your BIOS settings.
My T420 have no issue.

>>60826592
>tfw keeping the 2570p idiot busy by forcing him to fake votes

>>60826592

I remember the throttling issues only appears when you have it plugged into the wall, but with no battery.

>>60826593
it's funny how to imply having all these thing such as replaceable cpu, raid support, 65W+QC support etc is "just barely beating x230", while "everything else" is better in x230.
Aluminimum case is included in this "everything else"? No whitelist too? more bios mods, overclocking, actual DVD drive/second disk, better battery options, full USB 3.0 docks, superior cooling?
x230 and 2570p are meant for different people. Just get over it, autismo.

>>60826618
what do you mean by BIOS settings? Are you implying I should forcefully decrease CPU performance to avoid throttling? You know that's literally the definition of throttling?
And noone is talking about your T420. It's x220 vs x230.

>>60826622
>t-the vote is rigged! I'm with her!

>>60826719
>I-I just spent 30 minutes rigging a throwaway strawpoll

Where do you enter the serial number in Lenovo's site to check original specs?

>>60826748
>the vote is rigged because it's not in my favor

alright shitbirds I don't want your shitty underpowered laptop but I do like the trackpoint or whatever u call that red mouse thing.

Where can I get an ergonomic keyboard (ala microsoft) with a trackpoint? Lenovos usb keyboards are just the non ergonomic kind

>>60826784
you can't. Only lenovo produces remotely usable trackpoint keyboards.

>>60826763
support button, update drivers
put in serial number there
then top of page 'machine info' button

>>60826811
this is gayness. How do people put up with non ergo keyboards? They make me type 1/3rd the speed.

>>60826825
You can't always get what you want.
Unless you get 2570p.

>>60826397
Which specs would be better? Anyone, plez .___.

>>60826866
i7 one

Purchase request template:

Budget: 300 dollars
Location: us michigan
Size: not too bulky just going to do business stuff with it
Performance: good enough for youtube and pdfs
Other requirements: can take a lot of abuse

>>60826685
X220 and T420 have the same chipset and CPU.

>>60826875
IPS x230

>>60826866
anything with an ssd will be better than anything with an hdd

>>60826902
So?

>>60826872
>>60826917
well, so I'm going to buy i7 one, thanks anyway

>>60826962
Keep in mind i7 x220t is a housefire, and you'll be probably forced to limit CPU performance to not burn your house down.
Had one, and even the liquid thermal compound didn't help. But SSD is mandatory in 2017, so forget about the other i5 option.

>>60821360

Well anons, i see that nobody gives a shit, but I do anons, I do. So I'm taking a break to my progress here as a sign of praise for the community.

So:

Checked the backlight input resistance for shorts. Resistance is out of bounds, so I discard that there are shorts in the panel's backlight

Got a new inverter from germany (pretty good deal) as a preventive measure, because it is 8 years old, and sure I could completely destroy it out of dumbness.

It so happens that you can change the PWM frequency in libreboot with a few commands, so I'm going to tinker with the values to see if I get a stable signal (i should have done it before, I do have a lot of coil whining)

Anyway, who is also /toiletposting/ here?

>>60827099

I meant "to post my progress here"

>>60827099
why invest in x200 and not x201s?
you know pre-CORE cpus are insecure?

Alright, so how much one should pay for HP 2570p? With 8 gigs of RAM

>>60827164
Take the max price equal to max price of x230. Although 2570p is known to be cheaper.

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what's the best low power consumption penguin distro for an x220?

>>60826985
Wow, I didn't know that desu. I think that limiting cpu performance will be good for a battery as well

>>60827200
any, as long as it has tlp installed.
Get debian

>>60827200
Unironically Gentoo.

>>60827209
debian sounds comfy

>>60827222
nah

>>60826985
>but SSD is mandatory in 2017

this is a meme. the speed gain is negligible for the price.

specially if you need large storage.

>>60827232
ye, Debian would work well I think

>>60827257
t. retard

>>60827222
>>60827200
don't
https://www.sudosatirical.com/articles/man-loses-will-to-live-during-gentoo-install/

>>60827257
kill yourself

>>60827257
no, I don't need much disc space, I won't use my thinkpad as meme database, I've enough space for that on my regular PC's HDD

>>60827099
I care. just got my AFFS panel and am afraid to run into problems like that.

>>60827132
you can get rid of ME on X200s. not on X201s, only partially I think.

>>60827326
me cleaner works even with broadwell cpu.
Also seek imediate psychiatric help if you think ME somehow spies on you. If you're too stupid to disable exploitable AMT then it's your fault.

>>60826592
>43 posters in this thread
goes to show how many unemployed hp cucks with unlimited time are here.
very productive use of their time i must say.

If I order a new T450s, from a reseller on ebay, that has 3-year Lenovo warranty, does that mean I get 3 years coverage from the day I receive it?

>>60827346
>Tool for partial deblobbing of Intel ME/TXE firmware images
>partial

it says on the fucking title you mong

>>60827391
It's a misnomer you fucking mong.

It removes all the actual ME code and leaves only the init code, which is required for the CPU to not shut down in 30 minutes.

>>60827370
Only two people are posting truth about 2570p ITT. And I never denied I'm the most active poster here. Look, I even got a tripcode!

>>60827295
>>60827315
>he doesn't agree with my opinions therefore he's wrong

>>60827418
Your opinion is just brain dead.

>>60827391
>>60827415
Again, why would you want to remove ME?

>>60827431
tinfoil, and why not?

>>60827418
Noone ever asked him for his shitty opinion.
Spinning drives than can crash out of fucking nowhere in mobile devices is a stupid-ass idea. You don't have to agree with this because it's just true.

>>60827430
>my opinion > others opinion. it's just a fact of life

>>60827431
because I don't need it and because it allows people to exploit my shit.

the better question is why would you keep it?

>>60827439
Because you limit the range of nice things you can have.
You use 10 years old architecture that is close to it's natural death just because new CPUs got this management tool for corporations that is not really documented because intel thinks this way it's protected from hackers?
Wow, you're a special snowflake.

>>60827445
what if I'm a neet who uses my X200 stationary to hoard Chinese cartoons?

fuck off

>>60827445
>hdd crash and ssd dont. life is black and white.

>>60827455
ME doesn't allow people to "exploit your shit" AMT does. And you can permanently disable it in any thinkpad bios.
>the better question is why would you keep it?
because it's 2017 and I want a fast CPU. Let me guess, you don't use Windows because MS is spying on you too?

>>60827465
we're heading to a dystopian future like it or not. governments are pushing for more and more spying.

you think CP is bad? I give a few years until bongs are hunt down like dogs for pirating media.

call me a tinfoil all you want but at some point you'll need this stuff to shitpost on 4chan.

>>60827381
no, unless they are an official Lenovo reseller or something

but if it's a used laptop and it's just the 3-year factory warranty then it's from whenever the laptop was originally bought

or if they said "3 years left" then maybe, it could have came with a 5 year warranty originally or something

>>60827472
Then you're mentally ill and you don't belong here. You fuck off.
>>60827473
Who are you quoting, aspie?
HDDs can survive shock up to 250G. SSDs 1000G+, because it doesn't have a spinning platter and a fucking head.
That's your last (You) from me. Filtered and hidden.

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>>60827503
Filtered. Hidden.

>>60827479
>you can disable it
>something that's intentionally kept on the dark
>and could potentially be turned back on remotely

let me guess, you think turning off telemetry on Win10 and politely asking it to not spy on you works?

Should I upgrade my T410 from 4 to 8 gb of RAM? How much should that cost if I would hire someone to do it?

>>60827479
>>60827511
>>60827530
I thought the shilling on /tpg/ was just an exaggeration. holy shit.

>>60827511
>filtered
>hidden
adorable

>>60827542
It works. Tested myself with dd-wrt based router, which was sniffing traffic for 48 hours with debloated W10 machine connected.
You're filtered too. I see no reason in taking you out of your tinfoil "I'm a special snowflake and the govt is spying on me via ME!" state. Have fun using your 10 years old computer.

>>60826671
Three words.
Nice keyboard faggot.

>>60827530
>>60827511
What exactly are you going to filter, retard? His single post?

>>60827598
Thanks, slut. I really enjoy the 2560p keyboard in my 2570p.

>>60827583
just because you're not interesting enough for them to turn that shit back on doesn't mean they couldn't do it, if they wanted to.

and you filtered me 3 posts ago.

>>60827200

debian xfce

>>60827605
Nice keyboard faggot

>>60827602
>not having 4chan platinum account
I feel so sorry for you.

>>60827621
filtered

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>>60827610
>doesn't mean they couldn't do it, if they wanted to.
Provide a single proof.

>tfw ssd and hdd in my x230
feels great

>>60827653
provide proof that they couldn't. it's their system and you can't see the source.

logic dictates that the burden of proof is on you.

>>60827555
Please respond

>>60827679
No, you're the one saying they're able to do something. So you prove they actually can.
It's like asking an ateist to prove god doesn't exist, because the burden of proof is on them. Nice logic you got there.

>>60827628
why would u? it's so amusing to read his stupid posts

>>60827692
Why would you hire someone to do that?
It takes 3 minutes to do that if you got the screwdriver. Just get any 1333MHz SO-DIMM PC3 1.5V 2x4GB kit.

>>60827692
people who do reballing jobs usually know how to do that. they usually advertise as PS3/360 repair. not sure how much it'd cost.

>>60827701
you can't into logic, can you?

it's their system. they could (and probably do) code backdoors. and you can't prove they don't since the source is locked behind doors. the ME exploit backs this notion.

you're the one saying they're nice enough not to spy on people, even if everything points otherwise. so yeah, the burden of proof /is/ on you.

>>60827747
Yes they do spy on you. Stay with librebooted x200 and don't upgrade. Ever. Whatever dude.
Also remember to libreboot your EC and HDD/SSD too, because internal firmware is capable of messing with your file system. Don't forget about screen driver, charging subsystem, internal battery firmware (govt can make it explode remotely, killing you!). Oh, and you have to get additional, same x200 to desolder and disintegrate the CPU core to make sure it doesn't contain any undocumented functionality in it.
also chipset, wifi chipset, bt driver... whatever else you need to check in order to make sure govt doesn't look at your porn folder and meme database.
Oh, and get rid of the microphone array and webcam.

>>60827821
wew salty

>>60827848
>m-mom! I need to get this SOIC-8 clip to debotnet my laptop! What do you mean you I'm banned from pocket money for masturbating in my bed? Just give me the money bitch, the govt can't know about my sh0tas!
(You)

>>60827511
i'm just breaking your balls

>>60827954
*sucking
sorry for the typo

based on benchmarks online x230 is better than 2670p.

>>60828183
why are you comparing a 3rd gen processor vs 2nd gen one?

>>60828183
yes it is, 2670p is a sandy bridge powered tablet
Not really recommended to anyone

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What's the appeal of tiling WM like i3, on small screen?

>>60828208
i meant 2570p or whatever

>>60828422
decide, either 2570p or 2670p, cuck.
stock CPU options in both 2570p and x230 are exactly same, hence are same in terms of performance. The thing is that 2570p has socketed CPU that can be replaced with any quad core model, easily doubling x230 performance whlie x230 has soldered CPU that can't be replaced.

>>60828318
It only gives you a real big advantage if you are really into multitasking

>>60828791
Even if you do multitasking, shouldn't the small screen be a hindrance?
I have X200, and I just use different workspace.

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An old friend of my Grandpa who works at an insurance company just gave me his old T61i as a gift
>"I retired last week so i want to give this to you. You can do with it whatever you want."
What am i in for?

>>60828318
to post in desktop threads

>>60828829
You ever needed to reference and/or pay attention to multiple windows while also typing in another?

I mean... aside those answers and memes there isn't really other reason to use a tiling window manager unless you're just really comfortable with it already...

>>60828869
>pay attention to multiple windows
For what purpose?
Watching 4 instance of porn at the same time sound appealing.

>>60828925
If you need to reference a book or some forum for some programming thing or if you're watching an irc or discord.
There is also some lesser examples like idk watching a movie while coding, chatting, browsing the web or whatever.

>>60828856
*R61i
Sorry
Both mousebuttons and the trackpad click detection doesn't seem to work
I'm thinking on installing some fun Linux distro with a tiling window manager
Is it worth it or am i just wasting my time dealing with the R61i?

>>60828970
>inb4 watching a movie in a fraction of an already tiny screen
yes I know anon

>>60828970
>There is also some lesser examples like idk watching a movie while coding, chatting, browsing the web or whatever.
Why would you interrupt productivity or entertainment?

>>60828997
ADD

Did they make ThinkPads with the kick ass keyboard in JIS layout?
If so, are they unobtanium?

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>>60829062
S30 was A-E-S-T-H-E-T-I-C

should i get x230 or 2560p for low settings gaming?

>>60829062
Yes.
They were almost impossible to find 10 years ago. Now, good fucking luck.

>>60829198
you should not get an ultraportable with integrated graphics for gaming

>>60829248
What about retro games, old school games and VN?

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Been doing a lot of research and everything says this is currently the best linux certified ultrabook on the market.

Still, price for a new one is kinda steep. Is it worth it? Does anyone here own one?

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>>60829379
>linux certified

but why

>>60829432
sysdamin job and I need it for work

>>60829451
>what is windows subsystem for linux
>what are vms

>>60829463
are we really doing this right now kid? you needed to sound smart, right?

>>60829248
it's just for light gaming. and i've seen x220 run csgo and Starcraft 2 no prob.

>>60829518
>m-muh sys admin, I need to locally run linux because m-muh sys admin!
>but there is bash in windows and vms
>b-but sys admin
this is how stupid you are.
Use actual argument or take this "sysadmin" anime bullshit with you and fuck off, cunt.

>>60829639
right, well thanks for your input it was really informative

>>60829666
stupid shitposting cunt
I bet you're a helpdesk hero and you used to call yourself "sysadmin" because your boss allows you to enter the server room. haahahahah

>>60829198
2570p

>>60829844
Is shit

>>60827507
Thanks. Makes sense.

>>60829946
in your mouth real?

is it worth to upgrade my t430 screen from a 1366 x 768 to a 1600 x 900?

>>60830003
no, upgrade to 1080p

>>60829983
I spit in your mom's asshole and she gave birth to you

>>60830016
is it hard to do it? How much would it cost?

>>60830061
I don't know. Depends on your skills.
>>60830052
That's very nice senpai. You sure told me

>>60830092
Your mother doesn't love you

>>60830092
Thank you man, I'll search for it. I already have a 1080p screen computer, and switching between them gives me headaches...

>>60830187
1600x900 screen is disgusting in t430. Had one previously and it was painful to switch between IPS and this thing.
So it's best to just go straight to IPS 1080p. LVDS>eDP should be available on ebay or directly from 51nb chink forum. Plus you need the right panel and eDP cable.

>>60830111
She told me something else 15 minutes ago, nigger.

Affs-anon here

I impulsively bought a new inverter but there is a chance that i got a defective screen. Returning is not an option because i scrapped the touch glass before realizing the tomfoolery. Shit.

Tinkered with the PWM values and now I know how to prevent my old screen from beeping, but didn't help with the issue. If anything, the screen dies later at lower frequencies, but any duty cycle beyond 70% won't last long.

I'm parking this matter until I get the new inverter.


But not until I make some remarks about what has been discussed here about CPUs, SSDs and x200 s:


About x200:

Been using this x200 for 8 months now, and at least for 6 of them, for work, everyday.

I got it for 75£ and even though I bought it as a hobby, to tinker with libreboot, but its portability and comfyness made me prefer it over my usual laptop.


About SSDs:

When i finally librebooted it, I decided that it would definitely have its use, so I bought a 120GB SSD for it, and slapped in an atheros WiFi card.

The difference is huge. It's another world. Parabola linux with gnome boots before any other computer at my work.
Open program, *click* there it is.
Open file, *click* there it is.

Under no circumstances or optimization is any HDD even close to SSD. It is is not such thing as "a negligible speed increase". No. Is attaching a fucking jet to the thing's ass. I don't even need more RAM in any of the computer I have, because when it runs out of it and starts paging I don't really notice a significant change.


About CPU security:

How in hell is a core ix more secure than a Core 2 Duo with intel ME scrapped off??
How is that comparable to a work in progress script that erases part of what they think is intelME?

It's a promising work, and will strive, but it is not there yet. Using a Core 2 Duo isn't bad. Situations in which it surpasses 50% are uncommon, and I usually have a LOT of stuff opened at the same time.


Thank god he used a tripcode...

>>60830443
quick, grab your tinfoil, fool.

>>60830294
Yeah I understand that upgrading to 1600x900 wouldn't be a really big improvement.

>>60830443

Continuing my rant-erino


About libretardedness:

I work at firmware and CAD for prototyping, so i have the luck of being able to opt out or any propietary software.

I went full libretard for work, as an experiment, and I must say I'm impressed on how good it went. The software catalog is huge enough to have a tool for pretty much everything.

I jump between IDEs and use the terminal for pretty much anything compile-esque, and use FreeCAD for prototyping. Seriously. It does the job pretty well.

It's pretty common that my fellow workmates who use windows are complaining about how slow the shit is, how things suddenly break, and how there is no solution.
I run into problems also, as frequently as they do. But when I look it up, there is like 20 posts about the thing in different forums. When they look in forums, they always end up with a post saying "hey this fixed it for me, check it out!: wanacry_ultraFuckYou_2001.exe"
Or ultra long threads full of "same here" "same here" "same here lol" "bump".

And THATs what I like about free software. It THERE when I need it, but help is also there. There is no cloak of obscurity, covering an incompetent programmer's fuck up, or a restriction that suddenly appears, because the feature i used to use is premium only.

It would look like I am some greasy haired weirdo, with uncomplete an unconnected ideas about software freedom, with an outdated shit laptop with unconfortable freedomtard demands.
But when I get the job done, in no time, with incidence solved, it doesn't look like that anymore.

>>60830463

I must recognize that the libreboot part was for fun.

But still! I'm glad the backdoor is closed.

Its not only because of ME, I enjoy the full disk encryption approach.

Is not like i wouldnt open it up to the police if required, is just that if some fucko steals my laptop, I don't want the dipshit to have my data.

who /T430/ here with i5, 1600x900 screen and 8gb ram?

this is most god tier thinkpad ever. bought it for 370 euros

>>60830711
here a 1366 x 768 screen and 128gb SSD.
Best deal I've ever made.

>>60830711
>this is most god tier thinkpad ever.
but that's wrong you fucking nigger.

>no quadcore
>only 8gib of ram
>disgusting 900p display
>no fhd mod
>no keyboard mod

can any of these oldass thinkpads even decode HEVC? I thought this was supposed to be an anime message board?

>>60830758
GB, not GiB

>>60825348
almost quad, going to USA soon and picking up cheap 3630QM heh

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Got a few T440s machines from work. Repasted this one to improve temps, still underclocks under GPU load. Took the old paste off and found no paste at all on the GPU portion of the head sink.

Besides that, it's pretty amazing from a battery standpoint, goes about 10 hours.

>>60826323
>>60826430

c/p from last month:

quick hp 2570p review:
-all metal build is great, feels really solid
-screen is as bad as any thinkpad tn from that time, is "fine" for displaying information humans can look at
-pointer is pretty good, no middle button sucks
-trackpad is nicer than x220/x230
-popout keyboard lamp is hilariously useless vs thinklight(tm), but a neat mechanism to ocd fidget with over and over
-keyboard feel isn't any worse than a macbook pro/air, layout is not as good as xx20 or even xx30, motherfuck any kb that makes you fn modify for pg up/dn
-dvd drive in a 12" laptop is pretty cool, will probably put in a caddy though
-bootable esata port is nice, will probably be underused
-laffo @ smartcard slot
-internal accessibility is fucking great, everything is right there under one panel. once everything is repasted, upgraded, etc, everyday usefulness drops pretty quick, but man i won't dread getting in there like i did getting my x220 heatsink off
-broadcom wifi is shit shit shit with [my linux distro of choice]. replaced it with some jobber intel card i had laying around so now it doesn't take 30 seconds to reconnect after standby

it might sound like im shitting on it, but the 2570p is still a hell of a lot better than most laptops. that sata3 raid0 thing the one dude was jerking off over, cpu upgradability, dvd drive, might be enough for some people to overlook the design shortcomings.

final verdict: still prefer my x220, but a fair 2nd place out of all the laptops ive touched. will use as a beater or whenever i feel like mixing it up. might gift it to the next friend whose shitty acer desolders itself

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New to /tpg/, and TP in general. This seems like too good of a deal considering the surrounding similar/prices. Is something amiss??

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-320GB-HDD-Win7-Pro-COA-/362003005167?hash=item54490f7eef%3Ag%3AsnwAAOSw8lpZMHia&_trkparms=pageci%253Ae2dfd5ef-4d72-11e7-8b09-74dbd1805d09%257Cparentrq%253A8f6177c815c0ab674cb82899fff5ee89%257Ciid%253A1

>>60831984
probably just want to get rid of t420 that burns up the stratosphere

>>60832050
is this relating to t420s running too hot or some chink seller pollution?

>>60832079
t420s run quite hot with quads from what ive heard

>>60830758
Lol yeah like anyone had a working FHD mod.

>>60829709
Summer is here lads

>there are people on /g/ who get offended if people use gnu+linux instead of windows

what the fuck happened to this place

>>60826553
2570p, as in the HP Elitebook?

>>60830711
t430 - 3630qm, 16gb, nvs5400, 900p, 180gb + 1tb sshd, backlit keyboard.

>the shit

I have an x200 and i love it except for the 1280x800 resolution, is there any way I can upgrade this to something better

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>>60821710
That's a Stinkpad, not a Thinkpad

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Hello /TPG/. I got my first thinkpad and took some pics (X230t), I also have a question.

Mine didnt come with a batter but its in great condition so Im not upset. I have a slice battery currently but how does it charge? Only through the port on the side? Also can I have both a slice and a 6Cell at the same time? Do the charge through the same port?

Thanks and enjoy the pics.

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>>60833493

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>>60833582

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>>60833661

>"Theright side is identicalto the previousThinkPad T520. TheExpressCard34 slotand 4-in-1card readerfor SD, SDHC, SDXC, and MMC formats are still found toward the front. A combinationaudio jackfollows. TheGigabit LAN portis located at the rear end of the right side. Anultra-bay slotfor an optical drive or second battery takes up the most space and is found between the LAN port and the audio jack. A DVD writer comes standard in the ultra-bay and those who want an additional battery or Blu-ray drive will need to buy these separately."
>Additional battery
>On the Ultrabay
What did NotebookCheck mean by this?

>"Regular Lenovo customers will need awhile to get used to the new layout."
My sides. Even to this day there are people swapping the **30 keyboards for the **20 keyboards for whatever reason.

>>60828982
Try to reseat the cables and see if it fixes it.
If not, get a new palmrest/trackpad

>>60832770
get a newer laptop

>>60833088
mad cuz no socket?

>>60819912
Are new Thinkpads (eg t470) as customizable as the old ones? Will I be able to swap in a new CPU or more RAM down the line? I'm a complete fresher please be gentle.

>>60834591
hell no

after 4th gen (t440, please dont get it), the goyims at intel stopped socketed processors on laptops, making OEMs solder everything to the mobo.

>>60834612
Fuck. Are there any new laptops with non-soldered CPUs?

>>60834631
p series have socketed cpus

>>60830443
so I swapped my screen and there's terrible bleeding on the left. did you experience anything like this?

>>60834973
no

>>60827944
> le epic anime masturbating maymay :)))))))
> zero arguments
Tripfags were a mistake.

>>60834973
Wrong.

>>60834631
Not ThinkPads. Only shit like Clevo/Sager that have desktop processors in them are socketed. Mobile socketed processors literally do not exist anymore.

>>60835710
I kinda like my sager laptop desu, why "shit"?

>>60834631
the t440p and I suppose the t540p, have non soldered CPUs.

NEW THREAD:

>>60835799

>>60835748
I didn't literally meant they were shit. I don't like them, but they fit a niche.

>>60835805
>Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X, AND W/HP SERIES if you want the Real Business Experience™

Fuck off with this bullshit. Someone make another thread.

>>60826784
IBM SpaceSaver II

>>60829198
X230 or 2570P
Which ever you find cheaper

>>60829432
>>60829463
>>60829639
>>60829709
Back to >>>/r/pcmr friendo