/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

first for t420s desu

Ignore the hpajeet shilling his 1366x768 tn laptop

seriously though the "portable" x series are thicker and heavier than the t4xxs series, how is it even a competition?

>>60632917
I can't wait to get mine.
>>60632801
amazon has it
Transcend 32GB SATA III

>>60632973
the t4**s have bad batteries, worse battery life and bad lifespans

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>>60632918
Ignore thinkcucks pretending their indian x220/x230 produced shitpad is even remotely comparable to 2570p.

>>60632974
I have one and with an ssd it's lightning quick, it's lighter than my x230t and the lid actually has a clamshell and latch so it doesn't get fucked over. also the 900p is nice but the viewing angles are worse than the ips but you can get an alienware m14x r2 screen that is decent

>>60633020
lmao this guy again XD
thinkfags on suicide watch

>>60633019
they can have the ultrabay battery that is infinitely cheaper than the slice batteries here. also they stay thin even with the extra battery and don't have the cancerous protrusion of the 9 cell that ruins the portability of the x series even more

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>>60633020
What if lenovo drones are paid to shill their products on /g/?
Really makes you think, huh?

>>60633070
only talking about the main battery, they don't use regular cylindrical cells, they use thin square cells which have worse battery life and don't last as long

>>60633020
ibm thinkpads are ok, chinknovo aren't

>>60633144
agreed, but x220/x230/t420/t430 are chinknovo
And these are the shitty models i want to purge from this board. Noone ever should recommend buying this inferior overhyped trash.

>>60633113
I get about 5 hours of word editing though, lets face it, for the reduced weight you can carry and extra battery or two or an ultrabay battery for hotswap or even a charger

>>60633075
Sure, but we only shill buying used thinkpads, so Lenovo gets nothing.

Also, we hate Lenovo.

>>60633070
>cancerous protrusion of the 9 cell that ruins the portability of the x series even more
Have you ever actually used one? 9cell actually makes for better portability by providing a comfy grip. With the 6cell, it's flush with the back of the machine and you can't hold it nearly as well.

What models of HP Probook/Dell Precision or Latitude or Lenovo Thinkpad actually has a decent screen? I have a T420 with the 1600x900 panel. Its screen is hideous. Backlighting on it makes my eyes hurt over time.

I have a 13.3" chromebook with 1080p screen that is gorgeous, but of course has all the limitations of a CB.

>>60633209
have you attempted to put linux on the chromebook

>>60633204
I've used the 6cell tablet variant which is basically the same shape and extra size, it is a convenient handle but it's bulky and awkward. also, on most models it sticks out of the bottom too making them even thicker. imo thickness is more inconvenient than width and height

>>60632974

honestly, I think it's better to grab a used off ebay
>>60632892

>>60633218
It's a Chromebook 2 from Toshiba. According to the page that says if a CB is compatible with custom BIOS/Linux install, mine is partial. It's missing audio and WiFi has a tendency to drop out according to to people. The WiFi was supposedly fixed, but the audio really never will be as its proprietary stuff made by Skull Candy.

>>60633267
>>60633218
oh and plus I'm looking for an up to date corporate laptop I can repair myself as well as upgrade.

>>60632801
Blame price fixing.

>>60633209
W510/W520/W530 (Also T510~T530) - 1080p TN, better than most modern IPS
T420(s) - moddable 1080p IPS
T440p - First offical 1080P IPS
T540p, W540 - 3k IPS

This is the "I might be a poorfag but I still have some self respect so no eye cancer" list. If you have more than $500 I personally wouldn't buy a thinkpad. Just get any generic laptop with a dGPU.

>>60633264
Maybe i'm just weird but I have an old spare HDD i'm putting in and not a real fan of using other people's drives. I'm ok with no name at $30.

>>60633233
>imo thickness is more inconvenient than width and height
I don't think I could disagree more. I think thickness only really matters if you're trying to cram your thinkpad into a small backpack with a whole bunch of other shit so you need it to take up the least amount of space possible. When it's on your lap or another surface and in use, the thickness of the machine really doesn't matter at all, but the other dimensions determine how stable it is in your lap or how much desk space it occupies.

>>60633333
quints deliver truth

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>>60633380
This.

HDX Master race

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>>60633333
Yea I was looking at a Sager as they seem to be like the only brand that has god build quality,can be repaired/fixed by the user, and isn't $2500+ brand new. Link related (I know this is /tpg/ and this is considered a gaming laptop, but hear me out please).

https://www.sagernotebook.com/Notebook-NP6850.html

Laptop would be used for VM work, a little bit of mobile compiling and the nvidia GPU while weak can help aid in cuda acceleration.

>>60633380
the 14" isn't anywhere near the point of being inconvenient though. and if you don't need to fit it into a bag then why get an ultraportable? I'd rather be able to slip a thin laptop in with a couple of pads of paper and have the extra space for like a pencil case or my other shit. with a bag so small that you're limited to a 12" then chances are you aren't getting anything else bulky in there with a thick laptop

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Post comfyPads.

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https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-LED-Notebook/dp/B00BFFAWHK

This is fine for work/music prod? Thinking this is the one for next semester.

>>60633577
>https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-LED-Notebook/dp/B00BFFAWHK
it'll work but for music production, you're going to need more RAM. Otherwise your recordings will have a whining noise in them.

>>60633440
Looks like a shit deal tbqh

Also don't buy obscure brands, I don't care how well known sager is in the "tech community"

>>60633473
Looks insecure instead of comfy.

>>60633616
ok, is ddr4/5 worth getting?

>>60633577
Add another 4GB DDR3 stick and will be good.

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>>60633070
>cancerous protrusion of the 9 cell

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60633671
>ddr4/5 worth getting

Well ddr4 uses less power to do the same if not more work than ddr3. ddr5 doesn't exist yet except for on graphics cards in the form of GDDR5/GDDR5X

>>60633632
how is Sager obscure? They're just Clevo rebrands.

>>60633719
thx ddr4 then.

>>60633633
Because of Windows? I like it, tho.

>>60633453
really

footprint you nigger

a whole .5" of thickness is nothing in a bag compared to 123 in.2 vs 97 in.2

26 in.2 of desk space is a whole lot more relevant than .5" thickness inside a bag

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Added the CR48 and some toughbooks.
Also removed the troll picks.

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>not owning an IBM ThinkPad Clown Car to bring a full LAN party with you in one bag

>>60634288
Jesus
for a little bit I was packing the W530 w/ a Pixel
If I want to clown car, I guess I can go with T430s, Pixel, X130e & Helix.

>>60634215
The X330 is listed twice.

Is it possible to passthrough NVS 4200M to a VM?

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>>60634288
>LAN Part with no playable GPU.

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>>60634288
what bag is that? i want one NOW

What are some uses of the expresscard slot on the t420?
I'm thinking about getting a 3.0 adapter, anyone else done this?

>>60632865
this may seem stupid but
i recently got an t60 that i'm currently using as a torrent seed box with an external hard drive, is there anything i can do about the shitty speed of the usb 2.0 port , also is it worth it adding two usb lan cards ( for a total of 3 including the on board gigabit one ) so i can setup a pfsense box in VM? ( my cpu support virtualisation )

>>60635749
nothing, don't bother

>>60635752
you could get an ultrabay hard drive caddy and stick it in there

>>60635768
cant find it where i live and ordering online is not an option, can it be done the ghetto diy way?

>>60635691
It's got a proper IBM type number but I have no idea what it is. You can find a few on ebay just by searching "ibm thinkpad bag".

>>60635790
fuck i was hoping it would be under 20 usd

>>60635749
>I'm thinking about getting a 3.0 adapter, anyone else done this?
it's shit

>>60635815
Genuine vintage IBM quality doesn't come so cheap, friend. I fucking love this bag though, well worth whatever you can snag one for. Four Thinkpads is obviously impractical, but just think how much other shit you can fit if you only pack one.

>>60636101

>ibm quality

nigga i just want a nice bagf where i can fit a bunch of shit together i have a nig bag which i use for my x220 which has like 2 departments

how much better is a
>w530
>ssd
>quad core i7
>16gb ram
>nvidia quadro

than
>t530
>i7 3610QM
>16gb ram
>nvidia 5400m

>>60636344

t530 would also have ssd.

>>60636344
w530 has 2 more ram slots, some have built-in screen calibrator for colors I think

and you can look up benchmarks of nvidia quadro k1000m or k2000m vs the 5400m

so it depends if you want 32gb ram, accurate colors, and graphics performance

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>>60635749
egpu

is it worth paying several hundred dollars more for a new Thinkpad laptop over a consumer laptop?

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>>60636493
>new Thinkpad

u dumb bro?

>>60636493
you shouldn't buy a new thinkpad and you should never buy consumer laptops

>>60636493
no

I want to cop an x220 or t420 with one of those i5 cpus from eBay

Is it a good student laptop? Would I get cred with the nerd chicks?
And could I run an older version of Photoshop or Paint tool Sai without it melting?

I'm thinking I'm going to dual boot her with Fedora (i3wm). Any distributions more recommended?

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>>60634215
I thought you loved me, xsauc.

>>60635780
Is online shopping really not an option for you? Where do you live?

>>60636507
I don't want to buy a 4yr old $200 memepad that I'll likely need to replace within 2-3yrs. I don't buy disposable items when I need them for long term use, unless it's a one time thing out of a necessity.

>>60636535
>Is it a good student laptop?
yes
>Would I get cred with the nerd chicks?
no
>And could I run an older version of Photoshop or Paint tool Sai without it melting?
yes

would recommend looking for a *30 instead though

>>60636638
why would you need to replace it in 2-3 years?

>>60636645
Can do.
What's battery life then?
Could I get through a minimum 2 class periods of typing without the shit dying?

And shame about the chick thing. Looks like I'll have to hope my fascist turtleneck aesthetic goes well.

>>60636708
both models come with two different size batteries, 6-cell and the extended 9-cell which bulges out the back

depends on the condition of the battery, but for the *20 and *30's a good condition 6-cell will last about 6 hours and a good condition 9-cell will last about 10-12 hours

>>60636665
it would be 4 or 5yrs old already (3rd gen i5's came out in 2012). How much longer would you really use that computer, if you can afford a new one?

>>60636747
Last few questions
Is the 430 screen okey?
Is it any better than the 420s? If not what's the real advantage a 30 would have over a 20?

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>>60636802
>How much longer would you really use that computer

...forever?

why would you need a new one?

>>60636814
no the t430 also has bad screens

*30 has better graphics and usb 3.0

>>60636878
Alright what would it cost me to replace a screen on a 420 for something less shit?

>>60636908
you don't

>>60636850
Then why aren't you still using your Pentium 4 era Thinkpad?

It's not like a car where you can nurse your 150,000 mile 20yr old shitbox into lasting another "100k-200k miles with regular oil changes every 3,000mi" and everything will be just fine.

>>60636950
How much better is the x220 screen then?
I'm really just interested in not giving my eyes cancer by using a super grainy screen

>>60634215
Your tier list is shit.

>>60637015
just it use it as is, spending only whats needed for it to do the job, or save more for a modern computer. This is like being concerned with buying rims for a $2,000 car. You don't. You bought it because you have little funds, so why are you wasting money on anything that isn't necessary? Maintain it, save up for a newer computer over the next year or two, and leave it at that.

>>60637073
No, I'm buying a pretty modern desktop rig.
But I still require a fairly rugged laptop on the go. Leaving me with the options to buy a Thinkpad or a Botnetbook. I understand a lot of the major pros and cons for both and they are at similar price points.

>>60636988
because I wanted battery life and usb 3.0

you think a brand new computer will last you 20 years? retard fucker, car tech and computer tech are not comparable let alone with that kind of stupid ass analogy

personally I can see my $250 thinkpad which I bought 2 years ago, lasting me another 5-6 years comfortably, ssd, 16gb ram, 10 hours battery life, usb 3.0, displayport

in 5 years I might want something that can power 4k monitors (assuming they get cheaper and more common) and there might be a new USB revision

where to get trackpoint keyboards outside of lenovo brand

>>60637627
dell latitudes/precisions, hp elitebooks

>>60637651
not another laptop
a standalone keyboard

>>60637668
none because that's dumb

>>60637668
ahahahahahaha

>>60637453
i'm saying a computer, new or used, will not be able to keep up with newer software forwever, regardless of how it is maintained, therefore, it's NOT like a car. Learn some reading comprehension.

I want a USB Type-C supporting TB3, lightweight, battery life, and a 1080p or higher ips display. Not really a combination I can get from a several year old computer.

>>60637677
>>60637680
>using mice
I prefer the trackpoint

>>60636436
is that 750ti?
I was dumb enough to get 960 4GB instead of 1050ti 4GB... now I'm forced to use DA-2 power brick.

>>60637708
I didn't say anything about mice.

There's no good desktop keyboard except the rare as fuck Tex Yoda.

Unless you wanna use
>rubber dome
or
>full size
buckling spring, which is also expensive as shit.

>>60637687
obviously 'forever' was an exaggeration

>>60637753
as was my car analogy

>>60637687
>I want a USB Type-C supporting TB3

and what happens next year when you want the next big bleeding edge tech? or the year after that? and the next year?

that doesn't seem to follow the same logic as >>60636638

>>60637687
I haven't checked them myself, but maybe (and just maybe) the latest To and X models satisfy those needs.
>B-but muh underpowered processor
Battery life is priority now, sadly.
>Shit keyboard
Subjective. I personally don't mind Chiclets.
>USB Type C is a meme
Perhaps, but it's this guy's favored meme, so let him have it
>Lightweight
Get X, then, or if you don't feel like it, then get a MacBook, but in that case, why are you on this thread? It's generally for older hardware and a few P50's and T460's at times.
>Lmaoing at this old hardware ecks do
Like I said, why are you here then? Generally, who comes here for advice are either students or NEETs looking for a resistant meme machine, and maybe shitposting about why x is better than y even though it's an obvious, weak bait.

Tl;Dr get recent models, or get a memebook 2017 or whatever.

P.s. That car analogy was kind of unrelated. Automobiles last even longer than electronics, because most of the time it's just changing around filters, bands and that kinda stuff.

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>>60636638
u are retarded

>>60633440
Anon, get a latitude 5480 and an eGPU, or an XPS 15 if you want exactly the same specs as your example.

>>60637668
There exists a trackpoint model m keyboard. LGR did a video on it if you want more info.

>>60637816
I've used my MacBook for 8yrs.

when it comes to things I use daily, I don't buy into every marginal improvement, but when I replace those items, I want contemporary features (provided it's of great benefit to me)

>>60638105
ive used my thinkpad x220 for 9 years, retard

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>>60633633
Try this one then.

>>60634365
My sons and I travel with two X230T, two X62 and a W701 in one bag.

>>60638316
fellow mathematician, what are you reading anon?

>>60638303
The X220 is only 6yrs old tho

>>60636507
and you don't buy new Thinkpads (or you do, and you're dumb by your own logic), so how is it that you've used your x220 for 9yrs?

Watch your Ps and Qs

>>60637627
UNICOMP makes one but it's shit, I have it. It's full sized, fully mechanical with buckling spring switches. The keyboard is great but the trackpoint on it sucks, or at least mine does.

>>60638405
no lol ive had it since 1943

>>60638495
Does Lenovo offer an AARP discount?

I've looked at the buyer's guide, but I'm still a bit confused by all the different models. How hard is a screen swap to perform? I've built desktops before but that seems a bit unwieldy to me.
Also, what thinkpads have:
>sandy/ivybridge or newer cpu
>preferably an hdmi port
>easy to work inside (or is that almost all thinkpads?)
>t / w series. X series if there's a hidden gem somewhere
>preferably usb 3.0
Another anon mentioned the t530 in another thread. Is that a good model to hunt for? I'm happy to add ram / ssd, but i'm not too sure on a screen swap. Can't settle for 768p after using it for too long.

>>60638601
T530. Definitely.
Even if it doesn't have a dGPU that seems to be better since you can shove in better processors and have fine temperatures.
As for the screen, it's really not that hard to do, and the T530 comes with the options of a fully functional FHD screen.

That, or W530 if you can find one at a good price. It follow the same principle as the T530, except that the dGPU is better.

>>60638765
Literally the only thing I would use a gpu for would be a little bit of World of Warcraft in a hotel room once in a while. Not even raids, just world questing and whatnot. My desktop has all my Gpu needs covered. I was looking at thinkpads mainly as a portable media consumption device and web browser. Like a tablet, but less cancerous.

>>60633473
>windows
>band-aid covering the webcam
>covering the webcam at all
>that audio cable JUST WAITING to be tugged accidentally and making your keyboard a sticky hell if it doesn't ruin it completely
not comfy/10

Install debian unstable or fedora and at least get an EFF webcam sticker. More aesthetic and you'll be giving them cash to fight anti-net neutrality jews et al.

>>60634215
>2011 mbp
Didn't those have rampant GPU failures?

T470 vs T570, is the only difference the screen?

But notebook check gives T470 a much better score than the T570

>>60639369

And what about the T470p? God dammit why do they need to do everything so similar.

>>60639453
T470p doesn't have Thunderbolt 3, while T470 and T470s do. T470s has one soldered RAM. T470 doesn't have an option of a 1440p screen.

And one of them doesn't have an easily removable battery. Forgot which.

The T470 line is a mess. Was thinking of buying one, probably gonna get the X1 carbon instead.

>>60639453
The T470p has been shunned because Lenovo singled it out to exclude the tendiebolt port. The model that would otherwise attained the greatest benefit from TB peripherals (w/ the QC) isn't able to use them.

>>60635752
expresscard to usb 3

>>60637716
1050 has compatibility problems with expresscard currently. Your choice was lucky.

>>60639303
This meme works in reverse. Smallest brain is the best choice.

>>60639480
>>60639481

So should i get an X1 instead?

>>60639526
really? what problems?

>>60639559
I am.

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what does /tpg/ think about the new infinity edge 7370 latitude?

>>60640042
Nice piece of shit.

>>60640046
why?

>>60640068
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>60640128
well, I am partially looking for something to watch my 1080p javs on

why is it shit tho? just because of the consumer look or because it's just bad?

>>60640175
You're bad. A bad, bad boy.

>>60639745
After driver version 368.81, nvidia blocked pci-e connections that are not "hotplug enabled." If you have a card that's supported by driver 368.81, you can install it first and then update to the latest version to get around the problem. However, if your card came out afterwards (1080Ti, 1050, 1030), you can't load 368.81 in the first place, so you're stuck.

>>60638316
What's that dock?

I want to get rid of my gayman PC because I don't gayme anymore and the only things I'm hyped for are mount and blade banner lord and cyber punk 2077, which probably will be out until 2019.
But I have a bunch of hard drives, they are really only thing keeping me from not using my desktop.

Does anyone here have a Thinkpad Helix 3xxx?
Mine is missing drivers (spontaneously deleted), which means I can't use the pen.
>inb4 "download them from the Lenovo website"
Everyone tells me to do this, and it's not that kind of driver: Lenovo only supplies drivers that aren't preinstalled on the computer.

>>60640353
>After driver version 368.81, nvidia blocked pci-e connections that are not "hotplug enabled."
but my egpu is fully hotpluggable, and I'm using the newest available driver from their site.
Maybe this applies only to thinkpads?

>>60640042
bump

for general shitposting would I be fine with a x230 IPS i5 with 8gb ram, and ssd?

>>60640601
No, you need at least 2570p
x230 is known to be very fragile and shitty

>>60640619
looks like the shill pendulum has shifted toward HP lol

>>60640647
This is the only choice in 12" segment

>>60640658
wrong

my dick is another choice in that segment

What is a comfortable in bed watching shows 1080p machine that isnt too expensive for what its going to do

>>60640680
you're lying

>>60640711
Not a 7370 Latitude for sure.

>>60640773
thanks man wont do

>>60633710
I know it's a good handle in fact I use it on my x230t but my point is still there, it makes my x230t fit into my bag as if it were my w500 because it's so deep

>>60634137
the footprint of my t420s is really not that much more than my x230t

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>>60633473
Pomf~

>>60640711
W520 best screen

When buying a screen upgrade, does the specific FRU matter?

>>60638601
Latitude E6540 (Haswell generation, last E6xxx before Dell migrated to ULV CPU and split into E5xxx and E7xxx series) came standard with a 1080p screen. I don't think its IPS though.

quick /g/ i got a comfy new thinkpad but it has windows installed which distro is the comfiest?

>>60641537
mint is fuckin mint

I need a mini-dp to hdmi converter for my X230 and apparently not all of them work with it?
Do you know a model that works? (preferably the cheapest)
Thanks.

>>60640489
applies only to 10xx cards

>>60642095
Any cheap chink adapter from ebay works, unless the chinks soldered the cable wrong.

I have a $2 adapter and it works fine.

>try to submit a complaint about Lenovo support
>a bug prevents it from submitting
If you buy Lenovo after experiencing it you are either extremely lucky or a fucking meme

>have some spare cash I'd usually waste on cigarettes or fast food
>considering buying a ThinkPad instead
Maybe a comfy T420 for bedtime 4chan. Though I also want to get a PS Vita...

>>60640711
a tablet version I guess

>>60642271
>>60642095
Same here, had to use tape for it to not fall apart though

is it normal for the cursor to drift off for a second or two when you let go of the nipple

or is there something wrong with my nipple? it's an x220

>>60642491
yes it's normal

>>60642121
again, I don't see anyone mentioning that 1050ti doesn't work with 2570p. There are only positive feedbacks about that.
And my 960ti is fully hotpluggable under 2570p, unlike x230 which simply reboots if you disconnect the egpu after disabling device.

>>60641214
The Dell e6440 does have a 1080p IPS screen but only models from 2015 and later I think.

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[seizure warning]
Is this normal for an x220t?
Do I have the wrong graphics driver or something?

>>60642491
That happens to me too. It shouldn't be doing it every time you touch it though, only once in a while.

>>60642733
My 960gtx is hotpluggable in my x230.

>>60642741
nice pwm nerd

>>60635651
>thinking you you need a better gpu than that
>>>/v/

>>60642741
yes monitors are supposed to flash and flicker, that's completely normal

try reseating the cables

>>60642746
what ram do you have?

>>60642789
8gb.

>>60642802
it's not hotpluggable if you got 16GiB of RAM.
and I still find this very hard to believe even with 8gb it is. Maybe you just don't understand what "hotplug" means?

>>60642830
It is, you just have to trick the boot sequence. Google it.

>>60642830
>>60642846
Also, hot plug means I have my computer running and unconnected to the egpu, then I connect my adapter to the express card slot. The psu lights up, the graphics card lights up, is recognized by the OS and everything goes smoothly.

Then I unplug it and the same happens, but backwards.

>>60642737
You're thinking of the E7xxx an E5xxx series, which all has 1080p screen. The E6xxx series (magnesium alloy shell, full power CPU) only has 1080p screen on the 15 inch model, the 14 inchers are limited to 1600x900 like its fellow Thinkpads.

>>60642937
No, it does have a fhd display

There were two versions, the first had ivy bridge CPUs and a lvd connection.

The second revision has Haswell CPUs and EDP connection. You can put any fhd ips as long as it fits.

>>60636638
Unless you really want thunderbolt 3 there's only like a 20 percent performance gap between the newest i5 7200u and something like the i5 3320m. Intel being the monopoly jews they are made such minor improvements performance wise that you can match the latest and greatest with a 5 year old stinkpad
There's literally no performance gap between a 3940xm (intels 3rd Gen flagship quad core) and the 7700hq

>inb4 but my gaymen anon
You're on the wrong board to begin with if gaming is your priority anon
That said I can pull off overwatch, gta 5 and mgs phantom at 720p pain on my i5 3320m with its HD 4000 igpu
I've heard other anons can pull off bf4 at 720p

>>60642983
Yea you're right, my bad. Should've upgraded to the 6440 when I had the chance, this E7470 keyboard is rubbish.

>>60636802
>he still thinks Moore's law applies to modern computing
Wow anon you gave me a good laugh there
This isn't 1986 where if you don't upgrade in 4 years your computer is basically a pile of shit. There's literally only 20 percent between ivy bridge mobile and kaby lake mobile and literally nothing between the mobile quads

But you know it's your money. Enjoy your 20 percent performance increase and 0.6 megapixel screen resolution bump

>>60642733
the point that is being made has nothing to do with your goddamned 2570p-vs-the-world sissy slapfight that's been going on for the past however many weeks.

the 10xx series in an expresscard or mpcie egpu setup won't work with drivers beyond a certain version. hotpluggability and the card model affects which version this ends up being. 1050 with v375.70 driver will work on a laptop with an expresscard slot. 9xx series or earlier have no problem with the latest drivers

>>60643106
I remember when I updated my IBM from a 286 to a 386 and added I don't know how much more memory, and it completely destroyed everything that appeared on the year before.

Sadly, most of the games that used the CPU clock to manage their speed became retardedly fast and unplayable until I managed to "turbo" the cpu when gaming.

Fun times.

>>60634215
Love you xsauc man

>>60642401
X220 is more comfy for bed use because it's smaller.
Also I bought a ps vita recently and you know the ratchet annd clank trilogy persona and mgs is pretty good but I've ran out of games to play unless I wanna shell out the cash for the miku game

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>>60633473
not mine but I appreciate it vicariously

>>60636620
fucking africa
shipping will take 2/3 months from china

>>60642846
>>60642863
>thinkfag in denial mode
pls anon, do better than this

I currently got a t60p for very cheap, and am looking into making a t601f frankenpad. How would I go about making one?

>>60643500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m74otZqd2Y
This ought to cover just about everything.

>>60642786
Okay, I did this and it's still flashing at random times.
When I run a gpu benchmark (glmark2), I can hear a whining sound that is not the fan. I can't find anything like this on this on google, so do you have one more idea?

>>60644781
the whining is probably coil whine and that is actually normal

does it flash in Windows?

>>60644908
Yes. I've tested it in 7, 8 and an Ubuntu installation.

Are there any custom boards with support for things like newer processors and usb 3 made for some of the older more beloved thinkpads?

>>60645039
then probably not drivers/software related

either gpu is dying or screen is dying, try plugging it into another monitor

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Not gonna lie this shit is sexy

But
>$2,000
>Two Thousand United States Dollars

Fucking lol

Isn't the base model mbp like $1400 on sale and its got a 2k panel with nvme

>>60645344
You could buy it with the enterprise discount. Just check the link on the top of this thread.

>>60633020
Where can I get a list of CPUs for those hp machines? There's no thinkwiki for hp, right?
Also, any similar machines that don't look like shit? Preferably with black mate plastic like thinkpads.

>>60645511
There's HP's workstation line, similar to the W-series. They're Elitebooks with the -w suffix. They have a darker metal finish and come in 14", 15.6", 17".

Oddly the 15.6" and 17" have three trackpoint/trackpad buttons but the 14" ones still only have two buttons.

>>60645309
>either gpu is dying or screen is dying,
Ah, fuck it then. I think I'll just sell it to someone as it is.
Thanks.

>>60645607
Meh, I'm looking for about 12".

How about the cpu list?

>>60633075
if anything its people shilling for ebay 3rd party sellers, everyone here actively advises against buying new lenovo laptops

Someone needs to make a guide on affordable ThinkPads with non shit displays.

Also I've been looking around and found that m4700 are a nice alternative to the W series and are one of the few workstations that offers upgradeable gpus via mxm.

>sub $300
>ivy, upgradeable to some crazy 4ghz or something true quad w/ht
>IPS panel
>upgradeable gpu, some guy put a gtx 965 on his

Anyone know more cheap laptops with mxm slots?

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>>60645344
Add $150-200 for the QHD screen.

MBP has Skylake Iris graphics that are probably faster than the Kaby Lake HD 620.

I've installed libinput on my t460 and it did improve a bit the erratic touchpad.

Does anyone know how to improve the touchpad or could share their xorg config regarding it ?

The touchpad feels erratic, jumpy - especially on small movements

>>60645894
I' using synaptics with mine and have no problems, but mine is X201T, maybe it's different hardware (though both are from synaptic)?
In any case, here's my config:

Section "InputClass"
        Identifier "touchpad catchall"
        Driver "synaptics"
        MatchIsTouchpad "on"
        Option "TapButton1" "1"
        Option "TapButton2" "2"
        Option "TapButton3" "3"
        MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
# Custom options
        Option "SHMConfig"  "true"
        Option "VertTwoFingerScroll" "true"
        Option "HorizTwoFingerScroll" "true"
        Option "EmulateMidButtonTime" "30"  
        Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinZ" "10"
        Option "EmulateTwoFingerMinW" "30"
        Option "VertEdgeScroll" "false"
        Option "HorizEdgeScroll" "false"
        Option "CoastingSpeed" "0"
#        Option "MaxSpeed"  "10"
EndSection

Need some recommendations on a distro for my X301, currently its running Fedora Server (was just testing it).

>>60638848
You can always disable it in the BIOS, of course.

>>60643008
If this is true, I might consider disabling the dGPU and going for the IGP for the few games I play, then.
Though, I can play Bayonetta perfectly fine at lowest settings with the dGPU. It gets wildly hot, though...
>>60645777
>4 GHz
I don't know if it can reach 4 GHz, but the best dual-core (w/HT) is the i7-3540M, which is 2C4T @ 3GHz, and still retains the 35W TDP.
Now, as for Quad-cores, there's the i7-3632QM, which runs 4C8T @ 2.3GHz while still having a 35W TDP, or the i7-3840QM, which is 4C8T @2.7GHz, if I remember correctly, but has a TDP of 45W, meaning it will run hotter.

Some cunt smashed my X220t screen and the only replacement parts I'm finding here in Europe cost more than the original price of my purchase, or at least a good sum of it.

Where do you get cheap replacement parts? It can be from anywhere in the world as long as shipping isn't insanely high to Europe.

>>60646123
buy another one with supervisor password and computrace enabled off of Ebay, they usually go for pretty cheap

then just replace the screen part

my t420's dvd player makes random sounds when i'm doing nothing, like it's seeking.

it's pretty loud and irritating. how to fix? on linux.

>>60646230
Rip it out and put in a weight saver.

>>60646230
Replace it with a HDD caddy.

They are like $10 on ali express and far more useful than optical media in 1998 + 19

Do you guys still use the last Thinkpads IBM made?

>>60646060
woah you're hella wrong there buddy.

Even with stock turbo all of those can go higher than that.

3840 turbos to 3.4GHz all cores, and with OC it will do 4.0GHz flat, 4.2GHz single core.

>>60646230
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Optical_disc_drive#DVD_drive_is_noisy

Is it normal for the CPU/GPU to reach 80°C under load? This is what I'm getting with the default bios fan curve.

>>60646435
yeah, they're built to go up to 100C

I dont know how to benchmarks.

Does the w530's nvidia quadro K1000M outperform the t540p's nvidia 730m?

>>60646618
no

Do all X230 have a backlit keyboard? Do all have an IPS screen? Do all have a thinklight?

>>60646700
no it was optional, no it was optional, yes

>>60646700
Optional. And somewhat hard to find. All chinese keyboards for sale don't have backlight.

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>>60646739
>>60646835
Thanks.

I found two with an i7, IPS and backlit keyboard. One is $50 cheaper, but has a white ghost on the screen, shown here. Should I get the cheaper one or will this ghost drive me crazy?

>>60646898
it will drive you crazy

screen burn in/image retention is a big problem on the IPS models though, yours will succumb to the same thing

>>60646898
Fuck ghosting. I'd prefer a TN over ghosting.

>>60646935
You mean, if I get the clean one I'll get a white dot like this anyway?

>>60646973
the white dot? no

if you leave images open the screen for periods of time they will be burned into the screen

the white dot is a different thing, suspected to be caused by dust/humidity getting in between the glass and display part

>>60647104
So it makes sense to have a screen saver with an IPS maybe?

>>60645511
https://www.techinferno.com/index.php?/forums/topic/1982-125-hp-elitebook-2570p-owners-lounge/&
Have a great lecture. :^)

How much wieght can I put on top of a closed x220?

>>60647125
screen savers help but does not fix it

>>60647135
Thanks, I will.
>>60647141
I had a 5kg cat sit on my X201T without problems.

>>60647176
I'm think about a monitor here.

Also, your cat is fat, m8.

>>60647135
>socketed CPU
How does this work exactly? Like on a desktop?
Do you have to take one apart completely or is it easy-access?

>>60647322
>How does this work exactly? Like on a desktop?

yes

>Do you have to take one apart completely or is it easy-access?

well you have to remove the heatsink, whatever that involves

>>60647322
mate, all pre-xx40 T/W series Thinkpads are socketed (except -s models).

Do all the 4:3 T60p's have the FlexView screen? I am 90% sure that the T60p I'm looking at right now is a 4:3, but I can't help but to wonder (looking forward to make it a T601F).

>>60646290
My memory isn't that good, so I apologize for that.

>>60646288
T41 if you mean IBM ownership of Thinkpads
For the last IBM made laptop... no idea kek

>>60647406
Well I don't want T/W series, they are too big for my taste.

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>>60647322
you just unscrew the heatsink.
You get the access to all internal components in 2570p with just one switch.

>>60647443
It was actually the T43p, and the X41
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_History

>>60647486
Mixed those two into one, however IBM was already outsourcing manufacture, most likely are these two lenovo made but under IBM ownership

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Why is it that X240 and X250 have actually slower CPUs than X230?

Got a t420 for $100 dollary doos with the intel hd 3000 gpu.

it's lacking the finger print reader. Can I buy one and hook it into the computer or was it a special model that won't work unless it came stock?

>>60647522
ULV garbage. X60 had the same retarded idea almost 10 years earlier.
It was discovered that the regular CPUs could have low-voltage for increased battery life, ULV shits couldnt be overclocked for performance gainz however.

>>60647522
Because power saving CPUs, they are literally anemic.

>>60647551
The fingerprint reader is a joke, you don't need it. You can break it using scotch tape.

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>>60647522
>tfw 2570p with 2012 CPU is twice faster than fully specced $9000 x260
ayy lmao

>>60647551
I think you need a fingerprint reader motherboard, not a simple palm rest swap

>>60647649
>he presses the power button and manually types in his password in 2017

lmao

>>60647679
I type in the encryption key, OS is on autologin.

>>60647675
Doesn't putting such a powerful CPU significantly lower battery life plus increase thermals?

>>60647730
>lower battery life
still getting 8 hours of battery life on standard 6cell 56Wh battery and 15 hours on 100Wh 9cell one.
>thermals
under full load? yes
while shitposting on /g/, gayming, watching movies? no

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>>60647322
How else ?

>>60647831
How is the socket called?

What is /g/'s opinion on the x250/260?

Why does 2570p have only one USB 3.0, when X230 has two? What was HP thinking?

>>60647848
PGA988
If you look closely, you can see it says so on the socket in the fucking picture.

>>60647888
hp 2570p as two usb 3.0 ports and one usb 2.0 with fast charging.
One is on the right side (same connector as eSATA), other one is on the back below USB 2.0

>>60647730
Welcome to HP no.1 cause of failures since DV4 series.

>>60647918
Hmm. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-HP-Elitebook-2570p-B6Q10EA-Notebook.82051.0.html says it has 2x 2.0 on the back and one 3.0/esata. Also, who thought it to be a good idea to place ports on the back?

>>60647936
dv4,dv5 and dv7 were dying because of shitty AyyMD platform, and later dying nvidia chips with defective soldering iron.
Elitebooks have nothing to do with consumer trash called Pavilions.

>>60647901
You dont even need to look closely to see that you're a massive retard.

>>60647949
http://www.notebookreview.com/notebookreview/hp-elitebook-2570p-review/
>What it does have is three USB ports (including a USB 3.0, USB 2.0 and an eSATA/USB 3.0 combo port)
I own one and I can confirm it has two USB 3.0 ports.
>why on the back
why not? Most people only use one port anyway. What is this, 2010 again?
Even my mobile mouse is using bluetooth. Smartphone transfers shit via wifi and samba. The only device I'm connecting to the non-dock usb ports is external HDD.

Are all W530 motherboards equipped with 4 RAM slots, and are there different mobos with and without certain card readers or whatever?

>>60648186
only quad core ones

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Hello, switching from e6410 to x260 after good experience with corporate x230 and t430

>>60648237
kurwa

>>60648224

Thanks. The issue is though that motherboards come without the CPUs, finding the FRU for quad core mobos is a bitch because Lenovo's documentation may as well be hieroglyphics.

>>60648315
if you can get the model number/serial number of the laptop you can just look it up on Lenovo's site to see what the original specs were

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/?menu-id=Technical_Support&menu-id=technical_support

>>60640470
Bump

>>60640470
>>60648640
Have you tried "updating the driver" via the Device Manager on Windows? Or Windows Update, since it's almost the same process in the end?

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>>60633473
Got this one today. Have an e420 at home.

Does anyone know if x230's come with bluetooth standard? Is there a way to tell form the bios screen, I bought one on ebay but it hasnt arrived, so im not sure whether I can get a bluetooth mouse for it.

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>>60649122
What a shitty camera

>>60647196
5kg is fine for a cat, also a monitor should be fine but I can't remember if the x220 has a roll cage in the back of the screen.

>>60649127
it was optional

the BIOS should give you the serial number, put the serial number in here >>60648399 and it should tell you if it came with bluetooth or not

>>60649033
The driver isn't there to update.

>>60640470
if it's not Lenovo then who the hell is it? Wacom?

This is what's used for the X-series convertible tablets. http://us.wacom.com/en/feeldriver/

Can someone post an image of a T model with the extended battery? I've been searching but cant find any

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>>60649390

>>60649367
It's a "HID Compatible ____" driver.
It's not for extending pen functionality, it's for making the pen function at all.

I have acquired a lenovo thinkpad, how do I go about upgrading it? I think it probably wont be good at all for games, at least the new ones but im mainly using it to browse the internet and watch videos/media.
It had this
Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo CPU @2.10GHz
1 GB of RAM

do i just leave it as is or what?

>>60649473
install the wacom feeldriver and see what happens

if it's a Wacom device it will probably fix it, if it's some chink shit then you're probably out of luck and I don't want to google it myself

My T430 microphone isn't working.

i reinstalled drivers, made sure it was enabled, not muted, etc.

>Win10

When I enable "listen to this device" I just hear static/white noise/snow.

What's weird is my webcam works. Should I just go ahead and swap the module in the screen bezel?

is t420s really not that much heavier than my x200s?

>>60649605
I think it's probably and issue with the hardware, my x230t mic died but it was some super weird driver issue where I had to literally re-install windows

>>60649623
my t420s is lighter than my x230t, although the x2xxt is probably heavier than an x2xxs so it probably works out about right that the x200s is only slightly lighter

>>60649695
thanks. I need to upgrade from my x200s as it runs too hot watching youtube videos. Dont want to downgrade from the 1440x900 resolution though. Since X201s are so rare, t420s seems like a logical choice to me.

>>60649885
the t420s is bretty good, it can take ultrabay batteries and hdds too which is a big upgrade.

>>60649885
also how the fuk did you get your hands on a 1440x900 x200s? I've been looking for one for ages

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>>60649946
It wasnt too hard, but this was like 2 or 3 years ago

Got a 240x too. And a T43p IPS 1600x1200

>>60649946
eBay BTW. iirc i payed somewhere between $140 and $180, cant remember exactly.

>>60646435
yes unfortunately

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>>60646435
Heres my x200s, which is a 1.867 GHz Core2 Duo. I use tpfan-admin to control my fan speeds. In this screenshot, the CPU is mostly loaded by watching a YouTube video at YouTubes lowest resolution of 144. My fan is currently running at 90%, trying to keep the CPU temp under 70C. If I increase the resolution of the video to even 240 my CPU will not be able to stay under 70C

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Anyone got any suggestions to get Morrowind to run above 25 fps on an x220. Oblivion runs 45-60 on mostly high. Looking online pretty much shows it's a garbage engine, I just want to confirm it.

>inb4 get egpu

>>60651133
what's wrong with getting an egpu though

>>60649200

The X2xx until the X240 have a rubberized magnesium lid, that's why its cool to the touch and that's why they have that plastic strip at the top, its where all the antennas are for signals to actually pass through. The later ThinkPads and even the T4xx W5xx ThinkPads have always have GFRP/CFRP lids that allow for RF signals to pass through.

Anyone know how long the T430 will last?

>>60649946
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-thinkpad-x200s-laptop-Core-2-Duo-1-86GHz-4GB-120GB-wifi-Linux-mint-/132154225589?hash=item1ec50173b5:g:S9kAAOSwU8hY6orS

i want to cop this to libreboot it but i dont get paid for another week

>>60649214
Thanks anon, I love you.

>>60651133
It was a garbage engine then, and they're still using the same one for fallout 4, Bethesda is a total joke. Look up one of those youtube low spec guides.

>>60651133
Wait for openmw

>>60651133
MGE?

>>60640068
Go to the dell thread and ask them.
Oh wait there is no dell thread because nobody here gives a shit about dells.

What makes sense about going into a thinkpad thread and talking about computers that are not thinkpads? Do you honestly expect a real answer??

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>>60641537
Debian Sid is quite comfy.

>>60640042

pure sex.
>intel core m
nvm
almost had me
but ya blew it.

>>60649266
What I meant was right clicking the device and selecting "Update driver software".
It searches the internets for the driver, and works 90% of the time unless it's a very specific device.
>>60649479
What model is it? Depending on your answer we can tell you the max amount of RAM and upgrades it can take, but if it's just for browsing and media you should be fine as long as you stick in a 2 GB RAM stick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNzLDskt6K4

Come watch ThinkTrap lads.

Some guy said the x230 chassis is better than the x220 chassis, is that true?

>>60652286
I have a feeling they should be almost identical.

>>60652286
To be honest you could only go up from the X220's chassis, so yes.

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>>60633020
>the CPU can only overclock using the highly unstable BLCK feature.
>no one can get above 2.93GHz with a 3840QM @ 45W.

This alone makes upgrading to a high end quad core CPU dead on arrival. Any ivybridge socketed ThinkPad can do 4.0GHz with a 3840QM.

>>60652251
I'm not crossdressing :(

>>60650035
>240X
Very nice anon

>>60647936
So many HP laptops are trash
Elitebooks are not but I don't bother if they have any sort of issues.

>>60647675
>>60652636
Too bad it loses on single thread and can't even overclock properly on the huelel

>>60632865
new thread

>>60652699
>>60652699
>>60652699
>>60652699
>>60652699