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>>60652699
Reminder that huelel can't even do the one thing it has over the x220/x230 right.

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>>60652713

Fourth for friendly reminder to ignore the 2570p shitposter[s?].
As long as you're asking for advice or support, posts about the HP EliteBooks should be fine, just don't shitpost. It eats roughly 15-30% of the thread.

>>60653165
What's wrong with HP elitebooks?
Are they solidly built?
Because they look really nice in pictures.

>>60653332
People will argue about the keyboard, aesthetic, build quality, and overall everything except raw performance.

If you need a 12 inch quad core it's your best bet - but it can't compete with anything except the 12 inch X series.

>>60653332
It's not the machines that are bad themselves; they're good. It's just this shitposter that had recently come to derail discussion using the meme that is Pepe.

However, if you are looking for serious discussion, feel free to post.

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>browsing slickdeals
>see yoga 720 for $1.2k
>4k IPS
>active pen - maybe tilt support? who cares
>16gb upgradeable ram
>gtx 1050
>a fucking 512gb nvme drive

meanwhile a 1.2k thinkpad gets you a shitty 1600x900 tn panel with integrated graphics

what the fuck is lenovo doing?

>>60653423
Dedicating the best screens for the worst build in the market.

>>60653447
still can't understand their reasoning.

the yoga and their flagship $3000+ P51 are the only laptops that gets the 4k screen.

My X40 needs a new battery. The current one (extended 8 cell) lasts for about half an hour. Am I better off making it a home server?

The T41p I bought a week ago seems to work flawless with Lubuntu 14.04 and the 9-cell battery lasts 6 hours straight. Maybe next week i'll buy a PATA->SATA caddy and give it a SSD.

>>60653788
>Lubuntu 14.04
Why haven't you moved to the latest LTS? Is it too heavy for that system?

>New battery for the X40
Not worth it unless you try your luck with a chink battery. But for some reason it seems to be one of their worst products, I can only speak for myself, though...

>>60653821
>14.04
Its 700mb, fits nice in a SD card and it was the ISO I had at hand. Using it as a liveCD for now as I dont have a hard drive for that machine.
The only thing that bothers me is that it doesnt have the Radeon drivers, something that a fresh install should cover.

>chink batteries
Yeah, they are a last resort for me. Sadly the X40 uses both 18650 cells and some flat cells.
It'd be sweet to refresh the cells and get the 7 hours battery life it promised when new.

>>60653876
I'm not quite sure if it's even possible to refurbish a battery, but in any case it's not recommended. You might give yourself a nice, toasty housefire in the worst of cases...

>>60653979
Given the laptop was threw away, I don't stand to lose much.

Any tips in converting it in a home server? The two USB2 ports might be useful for external hard drives.

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>>60652770

>>60652713
>>60652769
You do realize you're retarded?
This HP list doesn't count turbo clocks, which you've obviously added to your garbage tier t430.
i7-3840qm has 3.8GHz turbo clock and you're fucking retarded if you think extra 200MHz is worth increase in power consumption and heat.
kys trash

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Can i fit an x230 fan in an x220 tablet?

Ive heard they run better, and the fan in this thing is shitting out on me

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>>60652713
>comparing 14,1" full notebook with 12,5" subnotebook
stay mad, thinkcuck. Nobody gives a fuck about your abomination of thinkpad with dogshit tier screen.

I want an IPS panel for my X200 but I can only find Viewiz-branded ones. a couple forum posts tell me they're the same as BOE, just rebranded.

can anyone confirm this? or am I buying Chink shit?

>>60653996
USB 2 speeds are a bit slow and might be overloaded if you ever happen to have too much clients on the server. Otherwise, you should find documentation on Google for hosting specific services, such as perhaps game servers.

>60654234
Oh, it's you again. You don't relent from derailing the thread with your shitposting, do you?

>>60653788
Nah if you have the cash then pick up a battery for it and take it out to Starbucks.
Also Lubuntu is such a meme. Debian unstable + XFCE is the way to go for old dankpads.

>tfw $25 won't fall from the sky so that i can replace my T43's obxnoxious fan

>>60654277
>Lubuntu is such a meme
Care to explain?

>>60654264
Who are you quoting, newfag?

>>60654353
>Implying he deserves a reply
Oh, well, here it is:
>>60654234

>>60654377
>being an idiot
>comparing standard notebooks to subnotebooks
>being this incompetent to lie about turbo clocks

>not deserving a reply
typical /tpg/ retard. Worse than /pol/ and /b/ combined.

i bought a e470 with an i7 and POWERFUL 940mx for $1000 and nobody can stop me or convince me it was a bad idea

>>60654311
Should I?

>>60654425
Good for you. Better than seeing the thousand "I bought x laptop for x amount, did i do good?"

>>60654456
god bless u

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>ThinkPads are the best supported laptops in 9front because ThinkPads are what the developers use.


why arent you running 9front on your thinkpad?

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is there any way to replace the nvidia 1000m gpu on a thinkpad w520 other than completely replacing the motherboard with a 2000m already in place?

seems like it's impossible, but just wanted to check for sure.

>>60654565
Pretty sure that's impossible, yeah.

>>60654565
I'm assuming it's soldered. look for someone who does reballing jobs, they usually advertise as YLoD and RRoD repair.

it's probably gonna be expensive though, plus finding the chip. and it might crap itself.

>>60654211

2570p has a very bad screen, how can the HP fag defend this?

>>60654668
2570p stock screen is better than stock x220/x230.
And it can always be replaced with IPS screen if you want your own eye cancer.

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Has anyone care attempted the T430u meme?

It's an x1 carbon with two RAM slots (16GB max instead of 8GB, and not soldered), and it's as thin as the Carbon at its thickest, so the footprint is nearly identical. The only issue is the top bezel is god fucking awful looking, but it has a ThinkLight (the only Ultrabook with one), and the stock screen has to be replaced to get 1600 x 900.

>>60652699
What is the best thinkpad with reasonable hardware to do number crunching?

>>60654968
>what is the best computer to run computer programs
This is how retarded you sound

>>60654968
anything with a CPU capable of doing whatever task you have in mind?

just look up some benchmarks.

Still looking for someone who has a Thinkpad Helix 3xxx.
I've tried all sorts of ways of getting the drivers I need, but the only way to find out what drivers I need is by looking at a similar computer.

>>60653417
Thanks for your permission, 4chan owner.

>>60655317
did you install the wacom drivers

>>60653417
>derailing the discussion
>by talking about 2570p capabilities
>thread literally about business laptops
stay stupid, cuck

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>considered a 2570p
>weighed my options and made many comparisons
>went with X230 because it was a better choice

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>>60655457
>considered a real wife
>weighted my options and made many comparisons
>went with 2d anime waifu instead

>>60652699
Do any laptops, Thinkpad or otherwise, have a mechanical keyboard?

Just bought a laptop even though I'm a NEET/hikokomori with a nice desktop. I have no use for it.

What are some fun uses for a laptop apart from anime in bed?

>>60656052
You can shitpost on /g/ from bed.

>>60654679
>2570p stock screen is better than stock x220/x230.
Accroding to notebookcheck's tests, the x230 IPS is much better than the 2570p TN.
>if you want your own eye cancer.
What the fuck does that even mean?

I just want my laptop to be readable in the sun.

>>60656308
I'm talking about tn vs tn
stock 2570p tn is better than stock x230 tn
>What the fuck does that even mean?
x220/x230 IPS screen is known for:
1. Having 3x increased power consumption
2. Developing burns in the inner layer of LCD screen after long periods of use
3. Having "ghosting" effect which affects Gaymur(TM) experience and watching movies/browsing net
it also hurts eyes even at 50% backlight, so have fun using it for more than 30 minutes.

>readable in the sun
Do you work outside?

>>60656308
>I just want my laptop to be readable in the sun.
then what stops you from replacing 2570p tn with x230 ips screen?
You hate having more corez, is that right?

>>60656351
>I'm talking about tn vs tn
>stock 2570p tn is better than stock x230 tn
Okay. But X230 is sold with also an IPS option. Is 2570p sold with an IPS option?
>Do you work outside?
Yes.

>>60656373
read
>>60656364
but if you work in hot environment in full sun you might want to go with x230 instead. Using quad core cpu in high temperatures is not fun.

>>60656364
I didn't know those screens were compatible.

Theres an t420 in a e-waste container at my workplace. Its outside and its been raining all day. Do I swipe it on my way home?

>>60656481
yes you subhuman trash, go and dig into the trash bin
/g/ at it's best

>>60654234
>Putting a quad core in a subnotebook
>Overclocking it because it didn't burn down your house fast enough

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I use this keyboard. Now I'm one of you!

>>60656481
Strip it apart as far as it will go
Dry with a cloth
Leave in the sun/hot room/airing cupboard if you Americans have them
Toothbrush and isopropyl alcohol to clean any corrosion
Leave it to dry for a day or so

Free t420

Alternatively: slap an i7 in there or flash coreboot and stick an ivy bridge i7 in it

>>60653423
Market segmentation.
You're basically paying for the brand.

I have this device and the build quality is better than many recent ThinkPads. In fact, the build quality varies a lot from model to model, there's little significance to the series (ThinkPad, IdeaPad). There are ThinkPads with shitty build quality and IdeaPads with excellent build quality.

Where can I get a cheap ThinkPad in this shithole called Brazil? Most sellers won't ship to here and it seems overly expensive and in bad shape on the local market.

>>60657214
Your best bet would probably be a forwarder that ships to the huelands.
Are ThinkPads really screwed in the local market over there? I mean, you won't get them in mint condition that often, but I'm curious about it.

>>60656977
sorry, but I've never recommended overclocking 2570p to anyone.
It's this t430 trash who's autistic enough to OC mobile cpu.

>>60657287
The t/w could probably cope with the heat though. A 12" with a QM or XM can't handle the heat under any intense CPU load.

>>60657425
>A 12" with a QM or XM can't handle the heat under any intense CPU load.
And you're saying this after having any experience with 2570p?
x230 won't handle such heat with stock cooling for sure. 2570p? I'm using mine with i7-3740qm and I've never seen it throttling during any workload. And for example 5 minutes ago I've stopped playing contagion (~70% CPU load, everything set to ultra, iGPU 100% used) and it never went higher than 90C dg with fan at 80%.

>>60657478
and I didn't note it but the laptop is docked...
so this is how wrong you are.

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>>60657153

How the FUCK do I disable this fucking middle mouse button SCROLLING MODE nigger BULLSHIT

I keep rolling back the driver, and it keeps fucking saying "No, you must embrace our shitty driver, so that middle mouse button clicking isn't worth SHIT" and reinstalling the shitty fucking driver that fucking kills my fucking SOUL

AGH

>>60657631
Are you using Windows? In Control Panel > Mouse, there should be an option specifically about disabling scroll. Then on Task Manager > Startup, disable all the background keyboard applications. Reboot. There, no more scroll, and no more unnecessary background processes.

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Anecdote for the people putting a lot of effort into upgrading older systems with quad cores:

My friend has a W701 with a 920XM. I have a newer system with a 5500U. In Cinebench, the dual-core 5500U gets almost the same score as the 920XM (actually a bit higher).

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>>60654234
>it's happening
If anyone considers upgrading 1600MT/s RAM to 2133MT/s - do it, if you gaym on HD4000.
I've just tested L4D2 between 1600 and 2133MT/s RAM (same timings, both DDR3L) and I can note about 25% boost in FPS under 2133.

Thinkfags need not apply, because there are no DDR3 thinkpads supporting 16GB (2x8) 2133MT/s configs, unless they fall for the 8GB meme. Personally tested thinkpads (x230, t430) require CL13 2133MT/s RAM to use this mode, otherwise it will throttle to 1866MT/s or 1600MT/s.

>>60658072
>require CL13 2133MT/s RAM to use this mode
and there are no CL13 2133MT/s 8GB sticks on the market.

>>60657678
yuo clearly don't understand difference between 1st gen core i7 (known to be overheating shit) and 3rd gen core i7 (actually very similar in performance to p50 xeons)
But I wouldn't expect too much from dumb anime poster.

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>>60658191
>>60657678
pic rel

Just bought a T440P

Looking at adding

>1080P IPS screen
>32GB 2x16GB dimms
>256GB m.2 SSD
>1TB SSD
>T450 trackpad
>i7-4700MQ
>9 cell battery

>>60658474
>32GB 2x16GB dimms
wrong, not possible on haslel platform.

>>60658496

derp 16gigabutts it is then

Has anyone here dismantled an ultrabase 3 before? I'm wondering is it is possible to add in some cooling fans and a few vents.

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>>60658595
yes, I did. 2570p fag here
There was enough room for me to integrate 16GB USB drive and SDR module with disconnectable antenna

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>>60658702
>>60658595

>>60654277
>Nah if you have the cash then pick up a battery for it and take it out to Starbucks.

If you have money to piss away at Starbucks spend it on something useful instead. Coffee is a meme. I buy bulk caffeine pills via Amazon and don't interrupt my life with expensive sugary rituals.

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>>60658713
>>60658702
>>60658595
bonus picture, LTO4 tape drive connected via HP SAS controller via eGPU>EC module to a x230.

>>60658713
Nice!

>>60658702
you attached a fkin SDR to it? RTL-SDR? LOL

>>60658889
yes

>>60658974
gay

>>60658702Cool, thanks for that. Time to dig out my spare fan collection

>>60655985
Gaming laptops do.

I found a T60 for 50€, should I buy it? I've never owned a thinkpad before but badly want one.

just returned an x230. the top was almost destroyed and i was jewed on my gamble on the keyboard. i've used a thinkpad edge at school and those keyboards feel like shit and permanently feel dirty and disgusting.
>60654540
wouldn't run 9front on a 16:9 thinkpad since theres nothing but the vesa driver

>>60657478
>90C without overclocking on a mid tier QM

You're digging your own hole buddy. T430 has no such issues.

>>60658203
>Comparing multicore ULVs with a quad core

Stop that. At least use a proper Xeon to show that it's equal when OC'd. Ill post my cpuz bench in a sec.

>>60658474
4910 exists. Get that and OC. MUCH better than the Shitty 4700 if we're talking about maxing out.

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>>60652770
Oh shit nigger what are you doing?
>Toshiba T3100
You seriously are not meaning THE T3100 from the year 1986, are you?
Otherwise this picture is 1000% true
10/10

>>60659873
>mid tier
Are you mentally retarded?
Mid tier is i7-36* serie. i7-3840qm is the highest non-xm 45W CPU.
XM CPUs are 55W only because of ECC support and some other irrelevant shit like 50MHz faster iGPU. CPU is clocked extra 100MHz in xm. This doesn't add 10W more.
And please stick your shitty T430 up your ass and stop comparing it to 12,5" subnotebook.
>>60659941
>Stop that
Stop what? This guy was just comparing ULV 5500u to 1st gen 55W i7. Are you too retarded?

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>>60654234
Enjoy your housefire.
Elitebook more like elite piece of shit

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>>60660013
>lying about 2570p overheating in every single /tpg/
>always being proven wrong
>always reposting same shit anyway
Here's your 1 peso, pajeet.
I feel so sorry for you.

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>>60658203
>>60659941
Looks like it actually beats the P51 Xeon lmao.

>>60657286
I can only find them with pretty much dead batteries, no HDD and/or RAM and scratched. Most people also don't put pictures of the device, using stock pictures instead.

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>>60660092
Here is (you) for your pathetic damage control and fake graphs.

If you want your credibility back, do the benchmarks again with proper timestamp otherwise fuck off.

>>60660092

You already fucked up and admitted to hitting 90C pajeet, we know your graphs are nonsense.

>>60657478

>>60660287
wow, first time you responded to the actual proof that you're wrong.
Too bad you're too stupid to read it properly.
Bye tyrone. Get back to your ghetto now.

>>60660320
These graphs aren't mine, you retarded negroid.
Two lines represent 45W CPUs, one 35W CPU. Use your powers of progressive logic and conclude which one is which one.
Now seriously, hidden and filtered.

>>60660352
Thanks for admitting your subtier shitbook can't handle real CPUs. Bye pajeet.

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>>60654149
It's not a turbo clock if it's constant, retard.

NEETBooks can't do turbo 100% of the time, unlike OC'd ThinkPads.

Get fucked Hertzlet.

>>60660452
>>60660380
Why are you thinkfags so aggressive?
Did you take your anti-autism pills already?

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>>60660493
>I baited them by being aggressive and then lost on my own merits, so I'm just going to call them names

>>60660525
>implying implications about 2570p without having any data or clue how it actually works in reality
>then implying I've lost my own merits
lmao. Close your NEETpad and go out, kid.

So I'm about an hour out from winning an auction on an X220 with a docking station. No battery, no hard drive, so I'm already looking at SSDs and a battery. Any recommendations?

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>>60660817
Fix the disgusting crack on the palmrest

>>60660908
How so? New casing?

Anywhere to find Thinkpad batteries for cheap? I just a refurbished thinkpad from the Lenovo website and it doesn't have the battery. The ones I can find are around sixty to eighty bucks.

t420 model on the way with msata SSD, 4gb more ram, and it has the 3000 intel hd.

The real question is, what should I do with this meme machine?

I'm just a college graduate without a job. (History field LOL)

Guess I should learn some networking and go work in IT.

>>60656481
Yes anon, how is that even a question?

>>60656529
Reuse is always more favorable than recycling when possible. Kys neckbeard.

>>60658740
>implying you have to drink sugary shit if you go to starbucks
>implying coffee isn't tasty as fuck and x10 more comfy than a caffeine pill
>implying tinkering with old dankpads isn't useful because it's fun

>>60658743
Noice anon.

>>60661371
I'm pretty sure that thinkpads off lenovo's outlet are supposed to come with batteries. Go complain to them.

>>60661939
Never mind, it was hidden in the box.

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Sup' g

Did anyone tried to put an HDD or SSD in place of the optical drive ? How did it went ?

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>>60662204
>Edge

It works fine.

>>60662268
It's because I'm too edgy for a regular one, anon.

>>60661927
Install gentoo

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>forgot I brought work charger home on Friday
>didn't bring it back
>panic
>remember I have slice battery with me
everything is fine

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>>60662204
>>60662297
>edge

>>60662358
And then what?

>>60657153
I've been wanting to get one but the lack of palmrest is putting me off a bit.

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Found an x240 for $300.

i7-4600u, maxed RAM (8GB).

I'm aware of the one-slot and ULV meme and am fine with it. The price is too insane for me not to consider.

I will be swapping in a FHD display and an x250 touchpad.

What do you guys think?

>>60663129
>I will be swapping in a FHD display and an x250 touchpad.

so another +$150-200

what battery does it come with? I wouldn't consider it if it didn't even come with the extended battery

>>60663209
I want the 3-cell battery. This will be my minimalist daily carry for when I don't wanna lug around the T430.

The touchpad is another $35 and the display is $80, so call it $125 extra. I doubt I can find an x250 with an i7, fhd, and 8gb ram for that price. Cheapest one on eBay is $550.

>>60654952
First time even heard about it. Seems like the CPU is super underpowered. I'd be interested in hearing some first hand experiences too.

Just bought a 2560p but it comes with a 250 GB HDD. I paid more than I should have but I wanted to get it from a seller I've used before and trust. There were better deals but they were from people I've not bought from before.

Will an SSD upgrade be worthwhile for day to day use? I plan to watch anime on it mostly but streamed over a network.

>>60663287
SSD is the first and most necessary upgrade for any laptop.

>>60663287
SSD upgrade has been worth it since 2009. It just makes everything load so much faster.

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Just got a used t430, what's this green switch on the right side?

>>60663475

wifi switch

>>60663500
Holy shit I love this thing. Thanks anon.

And thank all of you for memeing me into this purchase. It even was mislisted and actually has the 1600x900 panel

just combined a 2GB module and a 4GB module
feeling like a madman

>>60663668
There's literally no reason for more than six gigs. Eight is just a meme to sell us an extra module.

Okay, >>60660817 here. Just paid for the laptop, new 9 cell battery and a 275GB SSD. This is my first ThinkPad, and I'm excited to finally deep dive into Linux and be another power user weirdo.

>>60664170

Welcome aboard.

Sent from my iPad

>>60664563
Thanks, friend!

Sent from my Google™ Pixel XL

>>60664103
I open more than 15 tabs of porn and my chrome runs out of memory and forgets what was in half the tabs. If I use firefox I can open more tabs but each of them is slower.

>>60664930

STOP WATCHING what kind of porn?

help me /g/

I want to flash a modded bios to my t420s
I've found a bios file, and read through the readme so I feel pretty confident in installing it.
What are the chances of it getting borked or going wrong? will this brick my thinkpad?

Is there even any point in installing the new bios?

I'm also looking to eventually get an egpu going. I want to use the exp gdc adapter and if possible use the built in display.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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>>60665202
You don't need BIOS upgrade unless you want to unlock ram speeds, install coreboot or disable Mini PCIe whitelists.

If all fails and you brick your T420s you can always use an external flasher to load a new BIOS.

ExpressCard is limited to 1x PCIe speed and using the internal display strains it even further as the data has to be copied back and forth. You get better performance with a screen attached to the eGPU but this may or may not matter depending on what game you're playing.

>>60665526
thanks for the help, I'm probaby going to get an egpu first and then go from there, and only bother flashing if I need to as apparently sometimes you need to change express card settings

How much will I enjoy the t420 keyboard if i've used mechanical since the old IBM keyboards?

I had a chiclet keyed laptop for a month as a loaner and hated it.

>>60665645
it's still a laptop keyboard

the chiclet thinkpads use the same switches as the *20's as well, if anything they 'feel' better since they are more sturdy and have less flex

>>60665645
It's better than just about any other non-mech board out there, but mechs are in a different league entirely. The 3kro will probably be your biggest problem, it's really easy to set off on the Thinkpad layout.

>>60664978
flat college girl on mega thick milf

Does anyone have a Thinkpad Helix 3xxx?

>>60657153
>using that chicklet trash with that garbage layout
yeah, you're neo-/g/ alright

Pricing around a Lenovo laptop right now.
Anyone recommend any nice travel USB keyboards (including numpad)

Are any of these Thinkpads good for messing around in Blender? I don't need one for gaming, but what about applications in Blender?

>>60666126
why wouldn't you just use the laptop keyboard

what socket is the t420?

>>60666360
google the cpu, go to intel's site, it says the socket

>>60665932
You're still having trouble with those drivers?
Sorry if I implied.
>>60666241
Blender should work fine.
>>60666360
rPGA 988B, or just G2.

t420 for a weekend machine when i'm at my buddies house? We're coding a crappy little pixel game but it's much easier working together in person and i'm not lugging my desktop there.

If not the t420, what model will give me the best comfyness with the 7 row keyboard and THICC ibm technology?

>>60666479
>what model will give me the best comfyness with the 7 row keyboard and THICC ibm technology?
T30

>I would like to interject your posting for a moment, my dear /g/entoomen, or as I've of late taken to calling you all: CIA NIGGERS.

The 1366x768 resolution is still FUCKING AWESOME.
Bought the x220, TN Panel is fucking impressive. Good enough for shitposting and some Iranian Origami Animation.
Children spend your money carefully!

So I've gotten a Dell e6400 laptop with a core 2 duo that I plan on using for school work (Google Chrome, mainly) and I dont feel like messing with Windows due to price and performance. Im planning on using a Linux distro, and I was thinking about using Remix Os
Tdlr give me a reason to use something besides Remix

>>60667971
>Google Remix OS out of curiosity
>"Remix OS for PC allows you to run our PC optimized version of Android on any computer. Through a simple and quick setup process, enjoy millions of Android apps and games on your PC alongside the many intuitive and amazing PC features we’ve engineered into Remix OS."
>Basically Android on PC without relying on emulators such as BlueStacks or Nox

Well, if you can manage to run it, I don't see any reason you shouldn't, besides...
>Muh botnets
>Muh FOSS
>Muh freedom
But you don't seem to mind those, do you? No sarcasm intended.

>>60667971
Just use ubuntu

>>60667971
running a phone OS on your computer is retarded, just use some ubuntu

>>60668170
Yeah, my heart dropped a bit when I saw Jing's website was in Chinese
While it would be nice to avoid the NSA and Chinese Coporations spying on me, it seems to be getting harder and harder
>>60668339
Ubantu it is

Thanks Anons!

>>60668734
http://distrowatch.com/
There's more options than people on the earth

>>60668779
Yeah, but something lightweight and Chrome compatible limits the choices real fast

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Is there any way I can fit a 90 degree power cord to my T510? I often sit with that shit half on my knees and it currently has a 180 degree power cable and it pisses me off hardcore, literally the only problem I have with this otherwise stellar purchase.

Holy FUCK these things are good for what you pay for them. A FUCKING 1080P DISPLAY, AN I7, SSD AND 8GB OF RAM FOR THIS CHEAP? FUUUUCCCCK NICE WOW WAOEUAOEU

was looking at this x230 on ebay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-3320M-For-Parts-VERY-Clean-/192202793280?hash=item2cc02de140:g:j6cAAOSww9xZLhH5&autorefresh=true

couldnt exactly find what 8 beeps means but in the likelihood that the system board needs replaced it doesn't sound worth it. If anyone knows was I correct? Or was I too slow to the draw.

>>60670284
forgot to mention it sold when I was doing research about beep symptoms.

X230/X240 or chink xiaomi laptop?

>>60670284
8 beeps probably meant the 1-3-3-1 sequence, which might be a motherboard issue.
Taking a look at the auction, it was quite a good price if the only thing it needed was at much a new motherboard. Sorry, Anon, better luck next time.

>>60670422
I would argue if we knew if the screen was IPS then it would be a insta buy but TN had me think about it.

>>60670335
X230

>>60665932
bumparoo

>>60657214
>and it seems overly expensive and in bad shape on the local market.
That's basically it bro. And if you try to import one, Receita Federal will fuck you in the ass.
I've got a T420 myself from MercadoLivre, you can find them for less than R$1000, and they're decent. X200's go for ~500, X220's go for 1k. Good luck finding anything older than T400/X200 at decent shape and price though. I've been trying to for quite a while. Boa sorte.

Goodwill's online storefront often has cheap and old Thinkpads in working condition.
The shipping and handling costs can be pretty high though.

x230 fag here
Just noticed that if I unplug my battery and I run only by AC, the pc stays flat at 1.2ghz.

Power plan settings seem ok on maximum performance. Any suggestion?

Would it be worth it to get an X1 Carbon with these specs for $400?
>4th Gen Dual Core i7 vpro @ 2.70 Ghz Processor. 8GB DDR3 RAM. 256GB Samsung M.2 SSD. WQHD Touchscreen Display. 2560x1440 High Resolution Screen

>>60673020
X1 Carbon Gen 2 is absolute rock bottom for Thinkpads. It's a fucking joke.

>>60673020
>Adaptive Keyboard
>No physical trackpoint buttons
>low power haslel
>8GiB non upgradable memory

I wouldn't buy it but If you have no problem with above points and it's in good condition it might be worth it for you.

>>60672958
Stop using Windows.

>>60673205
Does any job in it/compsci not use windows as it's basis?

I don't get all the LINUX people when windows is the OS of the world.

>>60673244
All developers in my company use Linux (mostly Ubuntu) for instance.

>>60673251
>]
Then how do you use the designated shitting street when talking to Bob about how to use the program on a windows machine?

>>60673578
I'm not from India, mate.
Also, we sell SAAS, not winderp apps.

>>60673598
Then what does bob do when your cloud software has tech support needs?

Serious question as I don't know much.

>>60673618
I seriously don't know, we don't deal with customers.

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>>60652770
ayy

>>60673626
So you run ubuntu on your thinkpad? I may USB boot it sometime to see what it's like.

>>60673679
I personally run Archlinux on my Thinkpad.

>>60673205
Thanks anon, I knew I would have received a

> install gentoo

But that would mean that my income would become roughly around $0/year

I will try with a 90w AC as I have it, found in internet that it could be an issue with thinkpad programmed to do so (but with x220 I didn't had such problem).

Oh btw I have a 2570p too, I confirm I am more comfortable with thinkpad in terms of keyboard and stuff but it's a nice notebook, worth it. Better heat management on 2570 maybe,

>>60673693
You'd consider X230 better than 2570p?

>>60673693
How does OS affect your income.
>>60673689
Neato, i'll check it out. Been a windows babby since Windows 95 version.

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Bought a t470 with EPP discount, did I do good /g/?

>>60673676
>tripfag is an actually fag in real life
Like pottery, I bet "she" uses programming socks

>>60673928
>she

got a t430 in the mail
what steps do I take to learn programming enough to make it my job? I'm sick of retail management (4 year degree was worthless.)

>>60673704
Since I needed 2 notebooks, I bought both. I had a x220, travelled around the world in difficult conditions too, reliable but very bad thermal management, repasted, changed fan, useless. His screen died so I moved on to the x230.

X230 > 2570p... that's debatable probably.
x230 has backlit keyboard and a small light from above (both), 2570p nothing. That's a pro for my needs.
That's why I had considered a 2170p instead of 2570p but

> cpu series u
> only one mass memory slot

2570p has 2 sata, you can swap the dvd reader for a ssd/hdd.

>>60673706

Because an OS doesn't support or is not suitable with software and tasks that brings you money. Moreover linux = you must always have internet because documentation and stuff, so nope

>>60652699
Does x200 have secure boot ?

>>60674056
NO

>>60674137
Thanks i was looking for it in bios like a fucking retard xD

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>>60674002
>2570p nothing
What.
It has a light on the right side of webcam. You open it with the middle mechanical button between light and cam.
And mentioning backlit keyboard in x230... Please don't do that anon.
Backlit keyboards are made of shitty plastic that wears pretty quickly, especially small handles that keep each button in plastic sockets. It breaks VERY quickly and you have to always be careful not to tap it too hard. Also x230 backlit buttons got no anti-microbial layer, unlike standard keys.
And did you see this disgusting light bleeding in x230? I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like it. I was always disabling this entire "feature" to not hurt my eyes when working in the night.

>>60674186

The HP light is a fucking joke. It's trolling at his finest.
The backlit keyboard on x230 it's useful for me at night, I don't bash, guess I won't have problems..No idea about no anti-microbial layer, not sure if it's shitposting but thanks for the news.

Oh some more infos for anons.
You can easily access to Elitebooks just with a sliding out move of the backpanel.
Thinkpad you have to unscrew the hell out of everything to access (more safe if you mind security but still...), something to consider when you want to buy.

my x230 is tn, no ips, but yeah, both screens are average to be polite, I deal with it, I already knew.
If I have to buy something 1080 resolution, which I will consider but only in a not so near future, I have already filtered the hell out of every model out there, I'd look at latitude 7270 or 7280.

>>60674293
>The HP light is a fucking joke.
No it's not, unless:
1) Your eyes are fucking retarded
2) You're using chinese LED, since this entire feature is optional, and the emitter is removable.

Not to mention you must be retarded to look at the keyboard while typing... but I'm not gonna judge.

>>60674330
uh ok

It's also true that both notebooks have different keyboard layout (us and uk), sometimes I lose myself and I have to give a look.

just got a T430, installed manjaro openrc and having a problem with wifi after it goes into standby/suspend. is there a solution for this? i only found a solution for windows and it involves turning off power save options for the wifi card.

>>60674419
It's an Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300, according to inxi -n

I'd like to get an x220 to run a Plex server from, but I'm worried about overheating over prolonged use. Should I just run the server from a pi or something instead?

>>60675274
"prolonged use" won't make it overheat, that's what the cooling system is made for...

unless you're running at >80% CPU most of the time

How would a t420/30 with 8gb of ram do as a replacement desktop for the familys 2006 desktop? They have the monitor already so it'd be like $250 to replace a slow piece of shit.

>>60675733
Sounds like a good idea. Buy one with a busted screen for less.

>>60674419
Well you can turn off power saving features on linux as well, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_network_configuration#iwlwifi

>>60673928
>>60673676
xsauc can use a trip because it's useful to know his identity seeing as how he owns billions of thinkpads, runs dankpads, and has a youtube channel with a bunch of videos about them.

I want to ask a seller about wether the X230 he has has an IPS panel. Is there an easy way to check, without disassembly?

How do I make my x60t shut up? It often sounds like it's straining.

>>60677434

He also seems to only use his trip in the thinkpad general. He's ok in my book.

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Just bought this x220 for $115

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122512205105?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

i5-2540M, 4gb RAM (will upgrade to 8gb pronto), 320gb HDD (will upgrade to a 256gb SSD eventually)

Planning on dualbooting with lubuntu/Windows 7. did I do good? This is my first thinkpad after years of being on a school-owned Macbook Air, I'm really excited

>>60677694
Smack it with a hammer. Guaranteed silence.

X230 or X230 Tablet for roughly the same money?

does anyone want to buy my x200s it's really cute :3

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>>60678486
Fuck you
Specs
Price
Location

>>60677848
x220 bro, I hope it's good. My x220 shipped today. Should be here in a week. Battery and SSD shipped today too.

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>>60678536
160GB hard drive, 9 cell (about 4 hours if you try hard)
$150
california

>>60678664
you can get X230's for $150 you know

>>60678362
Bump.

>>60678826
tablet

>>60678362
tablets suck, don't

>>60678947
>tablets suck
Why?

>>60678963
well they suck as a tablet because they are fat, low resolution, pen sucks, relatively low battery life

they suck as a laptop because also fat for a 12" laptop, wobbly screen, lower battery life

I have an X220t and an X230. I like the X220t but I wouldn't buy it again. Also going to try selling it soon so it would be against my best interests to say it's not good.

>>60679057
X201T here. Wobbly screen? Not a real issue. Battery life - why would tablets have worse battery life, when they have the same specs as the non-tablet version?

>>60679138
Touch screen digitizer.

>>60679138
Wobbly screen is 100% a real issue

worse battery life since the X220/X230 tablets were only available with 4/6 cell batteries while the non-tablets could get 9-cell batteries.

And then there's also the IPS screen burn in/image retention problem. Which is very prevalent on the X220/X230 tablets.

>>60679057
this guy is a moron

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>>60657153
>not the RT 3200
no youre not.

>>60679159
Draws < 100mA while in use

>>60679163
>And then there's also the IPS screen burn in/image retention problem. Which is very prevalent on the X220/X230 tablets.
Does that also include IPS X230 non-tablet models?

>>60679364
yes

>>60679364
Yes, it's the same

>>60679375
Should I get a TN model then?
Also, doesn't a screensaver help?

>>60652770
>>60673676
I guess I'm just the average Joe, then (T530).

>>60673982
Learn fundamentals first, then take a pick:
Python is good for beginners; don't let /g/'s bias for C fool you, it's good enough for daily use.
That said, C is a good option, but learn it as a stepping stone to C++ or C#
Java if you like to write a lot
Ruby or Lua if your focus is games.

>>60679394
I would recommend a TN model, yes. The X220/X230 TN screens are pretty good, unlike the T420/T430's which were literally the worst on the market.

Screen savers can help but doesn't fix it. For instance if you're 4channing full screen after awhile your browsers title bar/buttons will be burned into the screen. If you leave for a piss for 5 minutes and the screen saver kicks on then it mostly go away by the time you get back. But that requires you to be doing nothing and letting the screen saver go... If you want to just switch to watching anime or whatever then you'll be stuck with your browser buttons overlaying on top of your movie/show.

>>60679057
i have a x220t i5 ips. i disagree with everything you listed as a problem. battery life is even better in Linux. i only dislike the pointy edges on the front base.

>>60677434
he's still a mentally ill trap.
Normal people don't pretend to be opposite sex.

>>60679636
then you must not have used anything else

how can i run an external script on docking/undocking (linux of course). i have tlp (and acpi_call) instaled. tlp can only enable and disable components, but it will not run a script. how do i hook to the dock/undock event?

Is a quad-core i7 worth it? I am looking at getting a thinkpad but can't find any that have the i7 7700hq. I do a lot of VM work and cpu heavy work so I am kind of stuck on what to look for in a cpu. Also, is there a big enough difference between the two dual core i7s to warrant paying more?

>>60680101
Use acpid. See the documentation on arch wiki.

I was looking at something like a t530. My local computer salvage shop has a t510 for like $265. Is that too much / too old? They let me play around with a bit. Seemed pretty slow in win10, but I'd be throwing ubuntu on it anyway.

>>60680177
it will not "fight" with tlp or do something redundant, will it?

>>60680164
you would know if you needed a quad core or not, go with ur heart

>>60680223
yes that's too much and it's two generations older than the T530

and to be fair the slowness is probably because it didn't have an SSD

>>60680164
It is definitely worth it, but it will obviously draw more power and reduce a bit your battery time.
Quad cores in 12 inches laptops such as X series and 27x0p EliteBooks are kind of a meme, especially since 12 inch is meant for ultraportability and long lasting battery life.

>>60680223
Did you get to see its specs? Also, putting in a SSD can breathe life and responsiveness into these machines, and by a great mark, even if it just holds the OS.
The best processor for that Gen is a 2.133 GHz, Quad core i7-940XM, which comes with a TDP of 55W and costs around $100 at much.
I'd say go for it, but the price is a bit too much considering you can get a Tx30 for that same price.

>>60680391
>>60680296
Definitely going to put an ssd in whatever thinkpad I get. And probably a ram upgrade. I'm not really looking to swap cpu because with all that added expense, i'd be better off just buying a newer model online.
I did get to see the specs. It has an i5 540 at 2.4ghz. 768p panel.
Also, this is for the whole thread; how are you supposed to use the nipple mouse? Everybody says how great it is, but I couldn't get the hang of it when I got to play with one today.

>>60680532
the point of the trackpoint is so that you don't have to move your fingers off of the homerow

Looking for some thoughts or suggestions
Been using my preowned T420 for a little while now and I'm loving it, but its speaker grills were pretty dirty and looked as if something had been spilled on them which really annoyed me. I don't use the speakers anyway so I just ripped the grills right off. What should I put there to cover up these areas? Would it be worth cutting new grills and gluing them there or would they just get dirty again and irritate me? Or should I just get a thin sheet of plastic or something the same colour as the rest of the ThinkPad?
My fear is that whatever I do will look tacky, I want it to look as slick as possible.

>>60680623
or just buy a replacement mesh sticker from ebay

>>60680623
ya dust and stuff will just get back in the grills

could do carbon fiber wrap

>>60680639
Yeah, I had a look into that and I am considering it, like I said though I'm not too sure if I want mesh again since it seems to be good at gathering shit
>>60680661
That could look pretty nice actually, I'll have a look into that, thanks

>>60680730
I have an old thinkpad t41, I tryed to install Ubuntu Mate but its says my processor doesnt have PAE.
there is any way around that or should i go for another distro?
I want to give Gentoo a try but i think i dont have enough time to do the installation.
Arch is not an option.

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>>60680391
>27x0p elitebooks
you probably mean 25x0p elitebooks. 27x0p are tablets.
also pic rel, 2570p with quad core, two drives, active wwan + wifi + bt. Powered by standard 56Wh 6cell battery worn in 10% (50Wh). To me this looks like ok battery life during internet browsing via chrome.

>>60678664
>$150
>hard drive instead of SSD for 150
>half-depleted battery for 150
Maximum jew.

Can the fingerprint reader on an x220 be used on linooox?

>>60680788
bump

>>60680788
Have you tried with Lubuntu?

>>60680802
>27x0p are tablets
Right, my bad. I got a bit confused since I'm looking for one of those just as a random doodling and shitposting machine.
>7 hours
Well I'll be damned, then. I eat my own words.
Still, it's good that you could provide actual proof of how long the battery lasts instead of plain frogposting.
If I get an ultraportable, I'll check these out.
>>60678664
Hopefully that's the battery life under >75% load, else you got a bit ripped off.

>>60681059
yes

>>60681159
HP advertises 100Wh 9cell battery to last 14 hours. If you additionally replace stock wifi card with 7260, enable ASPMs, cap wifi and pcie sd card reader to 2,5Gbps, disable intel display audio adapter, replace ddr3 ram with ddr3l,make the HDD spindown after 2 minutes and properly configure your system then you can increase it by another 4 hours at least. Then if you count quad core cpu instead of dual core... the power consumption is higher, but not THAT high to cause massive battery drain. Keep in mind qc chips are better quality than dual core ones and actual cores are physically smaller.
So it's nothing shocking that i7-3740qm or i7-3840qm has same power consumption as ie. i5-3320m when it does nothing. Not to mention the simple fact, that if you can finish work quicker with more resources at the end it might result in less power used.

>>60681391
Okay, you convinced me. I'm going for a i7-3840QM even if the import taxes rape my wallet. Thanks for the heads up.
Sadly, I lack the hardware to mod my T530's BIOS, or else I would remove the whitelist and add another card that that doesn't suck that bad.

>>60665815

Not him but, tell me more.

t60, t420, or x220?

We should make a discord group for /tpg/.

>>60681981
No

>>60681981
We have an irc channel

I have a T60 with AMD graphics and a 2gHz Core2 Duo, what should I do with it? I'm not against using as a daily driver laptop and it does well enough as such but I'm having difficulty getting the right browser for it. It can do YouTube at 720p60 pretty comfortably in Vivaldi but then eBay and other scrip/ad heavy sites it chokes out, meanwhile most Firefox derivatives have the opposite issue, where YouTube struggles but other sites run well enough to a point.
I'm running Windows 7x64 with the full 3gb of RAM the chipset supports (thanks Intel, really ingenious of you to limit that) and the OS isn't actually hurting the performance that badly, but browsers of course max out the poor Core2 Duo...
Suggestions? I don't expect it to run circles around a t420 or anything but I would like to get the most out of it.

>""""we""""

>>60682024
I meant ATI by the way not AMD.

>>60682024
Install a T61 motherboard and pump it up to a Penryn C2D and 6/8GB RAM.

>>60682099
I second this. Or just retire the old girl. Give it a proper funeral.

>>60681994
Yes.

>>60681996
IRC sucks shit.

>>60682175
newfag

Are 4th gen ULV CPUs soldered?

>>60682175
Autist.

>>60682198
fagfag

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I just picked up this Lenovo T430 from Goodwill for $80.
Did I do good?

>>60682355
does it work

also sidenote, do not ever donate to goodwill, they are not a charity and they do not do anything charitable, it is a for profit organization

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>>60670963
I fucking hate this country, and yet I love this country. It sucks when you want to get tech though. Imposto é roubo, pau no cu da Receita Federal.
I'll probably try to get a X200 as I want something cheap and portable.

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>>60682412
Yeah, oddly enough it says "No hard-drive" on the note taped to it that comes with the specs, yet it boots into Windows and asks for a password when I start it. I suspect it may be stolen. Other than that, I don't know of any other problems.

>>60682503
can you get into the BIOS without it asking for a password?

What's the best place to get a x220?

>>60682513
Yeah I can.

>>60682566
as long as you disable computrace and Intel's AT then it's yours

What's the consensus on the 5th gen X1 Carbon? seriously thinking about getting one

>>60679057
no wobbily screen, the x230 has the same res tablet or not, all tablets are ips

>>60682642
Sweet, turns out both of those are already disabled.
However seems the up arrow key may not work.
Now to decide if I want to be a cheeky cunt and crack the password or just wipe it and put linux on it like I originally intended.

>>60679163
I've had my x230t for 2 years of daily use and no burn in yet

So /g/uys can you recommend me a thinkpad better than the $800 Dell XPS 13?

>>60682774
grab the battery and shake the laptop a little, the screen wobbles

and you can get real chink tablets for cheap that have 1080p displays now

IPS is not always a positive

Im thinking of using this old Lenovo SL400 that belonged to me uncle and he passed away a while ago actually and I just found it again. Is it worth upgrading it so it could be a decent whatever it could be?

>>60682777
Get a new keyboard and check the BIOS to see what kind of drive it has.
If the claims about "no HDD" are true, then chances are it has a mSATA SSD in it.
>>60682935
Core2Duo still has some power in it, so go for it.
http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:SL400

I have an old thinkpad t41, what distro can i install? tried Ubuntu and derivates but my CPU doesnt have PAE.
Also tried sabayon, arch, arch anywhere manjaro but they dont have x86 support, only x64.
What is left? Only Gentoo? no alternatives?

E450, $180.
Yes or no?

>>60683214
Debian.

>>60683248
omfg, the answer was so obvious. Thanks.

>>60683182
>Core2Duo still has some power in it, so go for it.
>http://thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:SL400
Thanks my friend!

>>60683225
Also how big is the difference between T and E laptops?

More talking about chinkpads.

>>60682777
You don't have to crack the password to see whats in it unless its encrypted just use a live linux cd. Either way you will want to install a fresh OS on it you don't know what kind of malware its full of

>>60682519
bedbugbay

>>60683225
>1x8GB RAM
>320GB HDD
>Battery works for 3 hours
>I5 but owner doesn't know which one

t420 with windows 7 64 bit.

Should I just use ubuntu on it or another dist?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-x61-2-0GHz-4GB-RAM-W7-Office-NEW-BATTERY-Ultrabay-No-Reserve-/322530007403?hash=item4b1849596b:g:46YAAOSw1WJZJ8Cw


Should I swing for this, /g/?

>>60683781
$37 shipped x61 in alright condition with some extra doodad.

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Here's my x201!

>8GBs of RAM
>SSD
>Debian Unstable
>Japanese Keyboard
>OEM 9v battery (New a year ago!!)
>Modded BIOS
>Kernel Compatible Wireless Module
>AFFS Mod

My screen has some scratches on it, that's the only thing I can complain about... But, I have the original LED display, and can get another one any time sooooo whatever! What do you think?

>>60683781
Thanks m8, will but it.

>>60677217
even happens after hibernate.
tried disabling power saving
tried downgrading networkmanager
tried downgrading network-manager-applet
tried upgrading to 4.10 kernel
am out of ideas. what do? inb4 install gentoo

Purchase request template:
Budget: $800
Location: South USA
Size: Small - Medium
Performance: Fast
Other requirements: Light and quick for college studies. No-nonsense

>>60683829
ちょっと待って

It's basically all I know.

>>60683338
Depends on the models mostly. The thinkpad subreddit has a stickies link that runs through the chassis differences well, otherwise individual reviews are your friend.

>>60683829
shit background

also have you tried a 50/50 mixture of isopropryl alcohol and water to get rid of the scratches on the display? dab it on a rag, wipe away 3 directions. gg

>>60683444
Dunno if anon wants to bake it with 10 other thinkpads

>>60683225
Fuck yes, I'm searching google right now for that deal...

>>60682935
It's not the best but I can understand the sentimental value to it.

>>60682735
My complaint on the X1C3 was that it felt to thin/flimsy from ThinkPads I had in the past
>T420s, W700ds, X61s/t, T60p

>>60682307
Correct

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Really want one of these 183926U's for dat tegra & daily drawing.. Is it good to stay with android? Can you boot any other OS?

>>60684127
Local deal, guy is tech illiterate, he doesn't even know which CPU it has or how install speccy.

Is it really good? i know its not IBM memepad tier quality but the 5th gen I5 sounds really good.

>>60684185
just ask for the serial number and stick that in lenovo's support website, it'll show you all the specs for it (or what it came with, anyways)

>>60684185
People tend to say that odd numbered Core generations are bad, but I really don't know why.
Go for it, but know that it's going to have a build similar to any consumer line laptop (aka it's more fragile and stuff).

>>60684127
Stream when? And where? Also, is a T40 good if the only thing it's not working is the screen?

>>60684266
Because Gen1 was shit, and 4th and 5th and 7th are ULV cpus.

>>60682140
I only got it a little while ago so I'll probably keep it in action. Maybe I'll grab a t61 or a t61 mobo.

>>60682140
I'd be using a t420 or x220 but they look really strange now that I'm used to the 4:3 laptop footprint, and that damn tricolor IBM logo.
I also don't like the old lenovo font, and that horrible chrome badge. But it's probably unavoidable that I'll end up with one eventually, probably the x220 because I'm getting awfully used to the trackpoint...

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>>60681981
Inevitable
https://discord.gg/87PvZ7V
>general
>2570p containment board
>GNU Linux
>eBay Finds
>recent GETs
>sqt
dunno what else is there

>>60684185
lol...
just meet him, i don't think it matters what the E450 has, the i5 will be decent
Unless its a n E430 or something lol

>>60684266
I think my streams are choppy when live, Youtube says something about the frame rate, idk if I need a better CPU on the Mac Pro. I need change up my desk layout so I can stream vids with non shit lighting.

>>60682099
>8GB of DDR2 RAM
Money can be spent on a decent SSD for that price...

>>60684486
Its a E450 indeed, its the E design and has the 5th gen intel sticker so its not a E430.

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>>60684508
Im waiting for the bottom photo to check the MTM.

>>60684508
i'd check it out, its a fair price for it.

>>60684486
Maybe try lowering the streaming resolution. What resolution do you stream at, FHD?
Also, link to channel? I seem to be the only person who doesn't have it and hasn't watched any of your streams...

Can anyone help point me in the right direction? I'm currently going through tech school to become an automotive technician. I need a nice durable and reliable laptop, maybe one that can also be upgraded later also. Help please?

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>>60681824
>>60681824
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>>60684817
>Ultraportable
X230, or 2570p

>Regular
T430 or T440p.
Dell Latitude E6430/6440, is fine, too.

>Workstation
T/W530, or T/W540p if there's any.
Latitude E6530/6540 also.

I forgot which numbers the HP ones have, but they're also an option if they can save you a few bucks

>>60684924
Yeah, right.

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>>60684924
tfw he fucked up

>>60684879
>>60684879
>>60684879

>>60684763
I do 1080p but I guess we downgrade to 720p. :x

the finished upload looks fine tho.

>>60684935
Thanks