/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Reposting
What would he the best in ear for riding a motorcycle. It has to be low profile cause I don't want the foam of my helmet pushing it into the depths of my brain and as close to total noise cancelation as possible so I don't go deaf from wind noise. Budget is 300 dollaridoos. Thanks

Would a Fiio X5 sound better than my LG V20 DAC/amp?

>>60604060
Likely no, but it depends on the implementation on both devices. The V20 already has some good hardware.

>>60604073
Im going to be using low impedance (35Ω) but not sure if it will make a difference. I use at least 320kbps files but am making the transfer to WAVs.

>>60604021
You'd probably like ER4XR.

>>60603986
>sss.jpg
>not a Beyer or AKG headphone for the image.

Apply yourself.

>>60604097
FLAC is the same quality as wav, with a smaller filesize. Impedance shouldn't matter too much, phones are usually designed for low impedance shitbuds.

>>60604119
>Not the build up to the snap
>SsssNAP

which should i get, the schiit stack or the nfb-11. live in burgerland btw.

>>60603986
>missed the opportunity to put a cheap motherboard under "crackle" and "pop"

Your only opportunity now is for failure.

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Question for all you Braniacs: what caused headphone manufacturers to get rid of headbands? Why do people put up with crap they have to stick in their ears that always falls out and is uncomfortable? Any ideas?

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I enjoy the snapheiser meme but lets be honest here, they really don't snap.

>>60604226
They will snap if you put enough pressure on the headband. Stiff and thick plastic really doesn't mix well together.

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>>60604284

>>60604296
>if you put enough pressure on the headband
Any headphone can be stretched that wide, especially when its adjustments are maxed out. Got any more pics?

>>60604184
I'd say the NFB-11, however it costs more and will take longer to ship to you since they have to build it first. If you don't mind waiting a while, I recommend it. Better than the Schiit stack in almost every way, and the best value overall around the $500 and under range.

They also hold their value very well, if you ever need to resell it at some point. Then again, so does the Schiit stack, and that you can easily find secondhand somewhere if you want to save a bit of money. It's rare to see any used NFB-11s for sale, since the majority of people that own them don't want to get rid of it.

>>60604354
>Better than the Schiit stack in almost every way
elaborate

>>60604364
Great DAC, and powerful enough amp to drive just about any headphones on the market. However it can only be run as a dac+amp, or as a dedicated DAC/pre-amp. The amp on it can't be used by itself, so the Schiit stack has the edge on it in that regard. But if you ever wanted to buy like a tube amp or a couple powered monitors like the LSR305 in the future, you could use the NFB-11 as your DAC.

>>60603986
I am HD600 owner and I love this picture. Also sennfucks didn't show HD820 on munich hui end, FUCK EM.

>>60604296
Tell me about the power of memetubes plz. Also how they compare to SS, do you have speedball installed?

>>60604610
Those aren't his tubes, anon. That isn't his pic either...

>>60604585
The publicity and reactions from the HD820 """leak""" were already enough. It gets people talking. Once that dies down after a while, they'll release some info and create a big buzz again.

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Thoughts on pic related? Ive had mine for like 2 days now, they are pretty damn good. Hard to compare between these and my W40's, they both have their pros and cons.

>>60603986
Hi I'm looking for the finest USB or Jack headphones that will work on Leenucks!
I have Roccat Kave XTD Digital 5.1 but I have many issues with getting it to work [especially an equalizer] on Leenucks [Tried Ubuntu MATE and then Kubuntu but no success]

>>60604098
The ends stick out a bit much for me.

What's the closest cheaper competitor to LSR305's or are they the 'Speaker Endgame' under $300 like what some people say about HD 600's?

>>60604977
MK5.

>>60605167
I think to get better than those you have to buy brands like Genelec and Adam, 305s are the best poorfag monitors.

>>60604585
I'm not a HD600 owner and it's just a shitty forced meme.

>>60605240
Oregano

>>60605281
Are there any memes in /hpg/ that aren't forced?

Who here uses Superlux HD 668B with antlion modmic? Where do you even attach that shit?

>>60588904
>>60589602
>>60589746
>>60594870
Thanks for the recs yall. Ordered the HDH50s last night because I'm impatient and stupid, but if they dont blow me out of the water I think I'll try the Custom Studios.

I would like to tell you guys of these new headphones I got in the mail today.
Philips SHP9500S
Boy are they SHIT.
I put them on, yeah I guess they're really super fuckin comfortable, but for what purpose?
It sounds literally I'm earing nothing.
It sounds the same as if I were to use my laptops speakers, except the only difference is I have some fuckin earmuffs on. I can hear/pickup slightly more stuff than I normally would, however I can easily just wear my pair of EARPODS and pick up even more.

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http://locusonus.org/soundmap/

>>60605689
Kek. Sounds as if you have a shitty source, anon.

>>60605689
>It sounds literally I'm hearing nothing
>SHP9500S
Kek. Definitely a shitty source. How can you fuck up this badly trying to drive an SHP9500?

>>60606216
SHPs are pretty fucking trash dude

>>60605689
Send it back and get an HD558. $59 on Amazon

>>60604655
Is it yours then? Because that anon used to post here actively. Used to.

>>60605689
Did you test them on all of your devices? Smartphone is often the safest bet quality wise. Can you be more precise with the description, too.

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why don't you have a 4chan pass yet, anon?

>>60602247
Use any other EQ than the stock Foobar one but yes, of course you can. You just need more voltage. With leakage involved more than what you would think from the FR plots alone.

>>60599760
>you can't directly compare a measurement from one person to another because their measuring rigs may be inherently different
Understanding how they are different is a key. All measurements are limited somehow. Having measurements from multiple sources is useful and tells a lot given decent analysis. It's certainly the most valuable source of headphone data we have and a lot more telling than the vast majority of written impressions.
>shure
Eh, you mean the SRH1840? Don't really know what's going on with it.
>perception is going to be quite different from someone who listens exclusively at 85db.
Quite. Also easy to correct for. The most important band is not altered a huge deal. Compensating for the lowered bass level is easy.
>So FR isn't much use either
It is when you understand what it tells. There's a very good correlation between certain type of response and listener preference, even when you measure and equalize the headphones using a measurement coupler that differs from your own HRTF. Knowing your own preference can handily be used for picking a good sounding pair from measurements alone.

I don't put much emphasis on the stock response. Picking a pair that doesn't have any pitfalls in design like unstable response is more valuable to me. The rest you can EQ if you have a decent one at hand.
>except for determining general tonality and highlighting large flaws.
That they are quite reliable for, bass being sort of an exception at times. Certain pairs have trouble sealing on stiff artificial ear couplers vs real ears.

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h-hello /hpg/?

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>>60606498
oh wait

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low ballers keep out

>>60606293
It's $59 for used. New ones are $90 something, and hardly worth the price. And by this I mean, they are shit.

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How are ypu enjoying your headphones, Anon-tachi? I really like my HD600 for its balanced and detailed sound, but I'm thinking about returning it to Bax Shop and buying a new couple of lsr305 for a slightly lower price. I don't want to separate myself from my beloved K702 and keeping two open headphones without spekaers would be overkill.

Are there any decent in-ears that won't break arbitrarily after some time? I don't mind spending a bit more (say, up to 200EUR) it seems like even expensive ones are prone to breaking.

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>>60594484
I'm still looking for the manual for the Bottlehead Crack Speedball if anyone has it.

Trying to reverse engineer the circuit, but being retarded is turning out to be a bigger obstacle than I had initially thought.

So I just went to the store to try out some wireless headphones for when I'm traveling. Can get some of them really cheap (through special offers). Tried the Sennheiser Urbanite, glad I dodged that bullet by trying first. Horrible muddy bass and the mid is way too pronounced.

Decided to try out some cheap JBL's (E55) and to my surprise they actually sounded better than the much more expensive sennheiser. Still not great though but yeah its a wireless hp so I dont expect that much.

Then I decided to try out a Sony MDR1000X. While it sounded very good it was simply not good enough for the pricetag. Sounds about the same as my cheap ATH-M50X's for about 250 dollars more.

Are there any decent BT headphones out there that have charactaristics like the ATH-M50X? They didn't have the Sennheiser Momentum Wireless (which is a shame since I really liked to know how it compared to the shitty urbanite).

JBL's seem to come close and have nice punchy bass like the ATH-M50x's but I find them lacking in the mids and highs. Is the everest 700 Elite any good?

Recommend me some in ear headphones pls /g/

Budget up to $200 (max)

Something that'll compliment having full FLAC quality. Music is mostly rock/hard rock/metal/some gametracks

Requirements: not those ones that fold over your ears, I hate those with a passion.

>>60606277
Are you for real? Are you even willing to accept help? Heck, do you even own the headphones, or are you just shitposting?
>>60606293
I've tried both and the only thing the HD 558s have over the SHP9500s are with them being more laid back/less fatiguing. Everything else is handed over to the SHPs.
>>60606390
Not mine.

>>60607643
people unrionically willing to pay 200$ for penis in year headphones

>>60605689
>>60606277
>>60606293
Samefag.
>>60606391
He doesn't own the headphones. Take a look at how he types.

>>60607537
>Are there any decent BT headphones out there that have charactaristics like the ATH-M50X?
No, you're sacrificing audio quality for wireless.

>>60607878
Yeah figured as much.

Thinking of buying a Creative E5 portable sound card.

Thing is, I sometimes use my headphones on my phone and it has some abysmal static and hiss production going on. I figured that with a BT headphone it would at least be bearable.

Maybe the E5 from Creative will help in that regars. Sure it's not "audiophile" grade but im pretty sure it wont Hiss and produce static like my phone.

>>60604502
>>60604354
Untested chink garbage this anon likes to shill.

Can anyone recommend a desktop amp that provides as little latency as possible? I want to be able to track myself in real time using my HD 600 when recording. Hopefully something around the $200 range but something cheaper would be preferable.

>>60608489
I've never heard of latency being a problem with amps. Where did you get this idea from?

>>60608514
Its just a thought that came to mind since I tend to get issues with some devices when editing (my Scarlett 6i6 was my first latency free device). I wasn't sure if they would add latency to process the signal.

>>60603986
Got about 80 euros (flexible)
France
I don't care about the source (as a newfag I'm not sure what the difference is, from what I gather jack is the way to go though)
Full sized
Either closed or open
Comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time without it becoming a nuisance

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So what do you guys think about the mike integration meme? I'm seriously sick of my shitty fucking driver having me bend over backwards to get my shitty logitech webcam mike to work with Skype and such. Would a headset with mike solve that?

>>60606548
Those are in "like new" condition. It just doesn't come with the retail packaging. Best Buy has them for $75 brand new as well right now. I've tried the SHP9500S and I'm not a fan of it at all, but the HD558 is good for the low price range. I don't think you can get either of them for that cheap around Europe though

>>60608669
Can you compare the two headphones?

What iem cases do you use?
Looking for the smallest possible.

Considering this decibullz earplug case or the niceEbag case on Amaxon.

>>60608664
Who's Mike?

Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 80 Ohm vs Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 250 Ohm

GO

>>60608868
dt150

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Alright HD598 it is. As far as movies, live music, classical and gaymen, this is optimal sound stage.
>No no anon, save money and get AD700 for better sound stage and more neutrality.
>Silly anon considering AD700 get K702 for better everything.
>If you're paying that much you may as well get K712 anon. Only HD800 is better and they cost twice as much.
>What a stupid use of money! Forget K712 and get glorious DT 990 for glorious sound on the cheap.
>Are you literally retarded with that nigger bass anyone even considering DT 990 should just buy HD 598

>>60608958
Nonsense. Get HD600 and be done with it.

>>60608958
/hpg/ is a funny place.

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>>60608702
I would, but I don't own either of them anymore and wouldn't really be able to provide an unbiased comparison. I sold everything I didn't need so I could buy an HD650

And just to clear things up, I'm not that guy that was shitting on them. The SHP isn't bad, I just didn't like it that much. I guess they're okay. Maybe if they were the only headphones I owned, it would grow on me

>>60608958
>>60608968
I thought anon missed something.
>>60608974
No worries. I'm still on poorfag Grados headphones, so i'm always looking to upgrade anyway.

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>>60608968

>>60608958
>this whole post
Copypasta from 2012?

>>60608968
This. Endgame.

>>60609011
>Endgame
>No bass
At least state a price range.

>>60608968
>>60609011
They should've probably been squeezed in between K712 and AD900

>>60609020
If you like niggerbass, just EQ it.

>>60609008
No I genuinely find open back shopping a little frustrating right now

>>60609031
>Literally no bass
>Any higher is niggerbass territory
Lmao.
https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf

>>60609038
Try to focus less on outdated garbage headphones.

>>60609046
can't you hear or even see the bass?
senpai, are you blind on top of deaf?

>>60609067
>Oh last month's very best is shit now. Let me tell you about this month's flavor

>>60609038
It's actually very easy.
If you can afford HD600/650 then get it, otherwise buy whatever k6 or k7 series AKG you can afford.
Or you can be retarded fuck and buy HD598. Chances are you have nothing decent to compare it to and will spend rest of your life blissfully believing you got best deal ever. Like every HD598 owner.

>>60609095
>Oh technological progress confuses me. Let me discuss the same headphones ad infinitum

>>60609073
Sorry. Let me clarify.
>No sub-bass
>Barely any bass in general
The HD 600's bass is more like texture than anything, if you know what I mean. Literally anything else is going to outright beat it in terms of bass. Nigger bass need not apply.
>Inb4 just EQ it

>>60608868
Depends on your source. 80 ohm if you don't have an amp

>>60609120
I'm scared my audio interface can't drive a pair of HD 6** well enough. It's only powered through USB

>>60609138
>technological progress
Do you even have any clue what you are talking about? There have been no progress in headphones technology for decades. Save for bluetooth and active noise cancelling maybe.
How clueless can you be?

>>60609214
ok grandpa

>>60609237
Not anon, but what are some """modern""" headphones?

>>60609237
One example of newly developed audio technology that is being used in headphones. Go.

>>60609248
None. 99% of headphones are electrodynamic, that's what almost everyone on /hpg/ and outside uses. Then there is planar and electrostatic, rarely used and mostly expensive.
That guys is retarded troll.

>>60609248
By """"modern"""" I assume you mean recently release headphones that I consider good.
Examples include: Etymotic ER4-XR, Audeze Sine, MrSpeakers ÆON, Status Audio CB-1, Philips Fidelio X2

>>60609251
>audio technology
I could, but the fact that you're moving the goalpost means you're either dishonest or stupid. I won't bother arguing with you.

>>60607643
Shure SE215

The Shure SE315 are trash, literally no bass.

Westone W10

Westone UMpro 10

RHA T10

Sennheiser IE80

so which poorfag headphones are the best?
all those chinkshit headphones seem to have ear raping treble and i don't want that shit
i want a warm/maybe slightly bassy sound

>>60609655
How poorfag are we talking?

>>60609699
no more than 50€

>>60609825
Oh man, good luck with that.

>>60609825
Christ, just mug some gullible-looking kid.

>>60609418
>Fidelio X2
Over stuff like HD 6** and K712?

>>60609992
Not anon, but different headphones have their uses. If you want open-back headphones with certified nigger bass, then the Fidelios are the obvious choice. If don't think the HD 6XXs or K7XXs are that bass capable.

For mostly gaymen and movies should i buy the akg k712 or the monolith m1060?

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>into headphones for a while but never made a big purchase
>young and dumb so spend my first pay packet at my first job on some HD800's
>fucking love them, soundstage is bigger than I could have imagined, love the overall sound signature
>don't like the weight/looseness with which they fit on your head, I pretty much cant lean forwards without them slipping off
>also super self conscious about living with parents and hate how much sound they leak
>also addicted to blacked porn
>switch between blacked porn and my death metal so often that it isn't worth the hassle listening to my porn through earbuds then getting my HD800's out for music
>my HD800's have pretty much spent most of their time in their box for the last month or so
>$1000 down the drain or so it feels

Is there anything closed with a similar sound signature? I love how they sound but I just can't deal with how much sound they leak, it's insane, it's like wearing speakers on your head.

>>60609894
>>60609923
shit senpai, is it really so bad? I heard koss portapro's are good

>>60606559
sell the akgs dude

So my PC is already using up the RCA IN on my Schiit stack, whats the best way to connect my Turntable to them? I have the Uber variant of the Magni and Modi 2 if that helps.

>>60610440
Let him decide for himself, my man.

What the best tubes to roll for a Valhalla 2 running a HD800?

>>60609418
>I could, but the fact that you're moving the goalpost means you're either dishonest or stupid
What goalpost moving?
>Oh technological progress confuses me. Let me discuss the same headphones ad infinitum
That was your original point. I asked you to give me one example of said technological progress. So far you came up with nothing. I'm curious what kind of retarded shit you will come up with.

>>60610440
>selling the better headphone
Wew

>>60610414
>I heard koss portapro's are good
On 2010 /g/?
No, they are not good. They are complete shit, and were considered "decent" almost decade ago back when there was no chinkshit headphones that destroy it.
Somic v2 are somewhat decent chinkshit headphones that fit in your budget I think.

>>60610136
K712, though I don't particularly recommend it. If you're set on it, then go for it

>>60610379
Just mod your HD 800 to muffle the backwave without messing up the damping. Fill some lunch bags with some wool and tape them over the grill. Or something.

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>>60610694
hmm

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>>60609655
>>60609825
I would go with this, if I were you

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/takstar-HI-2050_115356632.html

pic related is the frequency response measurement of it I found here: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/108348-takstar-hi-2050-headphone-overviewfirst-look-video/

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>>60611037
>What are opinions?
Dude, quit shilling your HD 600s. If he wants to sell his HD 600s, there's no need to get absolutely madhurt over it.

>>60611171
i'm not shilling anything, just telling him to keep the better headphone

>>60611202
>I'm not shilling anything
>I'm just telling him to keep the headphones I prefer
>Not shilling
Lmao.

>>60611127
Also forgot to mention that it's basically an open-back HyperX Cloud (which is a rebranded Takstar Pro 80 as far as I know, which is the closed-back version of the HI 2050), so it should sound pretty good.

>>60610731
hmm alright, i'll reconsider chink headphones
>>60611127
yeah i remember those, i've been thinking about the pro 80 instead
do you know if anyone measured somic v2?

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>>60611273
Why do you want the closed-back one? I recommend getting the open one instead. I don't think I've heard of the Somic v2 before, but I was able to find the manufacturer's frequency response measurement for it

>>60611221
>I prefer

yeah but the HD600 is plainly the better choice, it's like comparing a 1080Ti(hd600) to a lowly rx480(k702)

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>>60611469
>Unironically using GPUs to compare headphones
Holy shit, my sides! Dude, personal preference exists. Now go back to shitposting on CPU and GPU threads on /g/.

>>60611438
>Why do you want the closed-back one?
my neighbors are noisy annoying cunts, i should have mentioned that i prefer closed back headphones
the measurement doesn't look bad but i just found out they're open so yeah
do you have any recommendations for more closed headphones around 50$?

What are some good gaming headsets for 90 euros or less lads

>>60610763
What would you recommend under $400

>>60611712
>good gaming headsets

Oxymoron.

>>60611469
>using objective analogies for subjective comparisons
spot the nvidiot

>>60611736
Sennheiser HD600.

>>60611969
>For gaming and movies
Stop.

>>60611993
Good headphones are good at everything. plus HD600 is an excellent all rounder.

>>60612024
Their soundstage is extremely narrow, not to mention, barely any bass.

>>60612024
>Good headphones are good at everything
If that's your definition, then the HD600s are no good. Enjoy your bass rolloff for that sick lfe action.

>>60611712
If you're absolutely dead set on Gaming Marketed headsets that are 90% of the time inferior to a standalone headphone and mic, Original HyperX Clouds. Otherwise, look at decently reputable headphones around that price range and microphone like the SF-920.
Superlux HD 681[F/B Varients/Red Ring], 662 EVO, 668B/669.
Samson SR850/950 [681/669 Clones in that order that are comfier]
SHP9500
HD 558
Somic MM185/V2
XPT100

>>60612047
They want something that works well with movies and videogames, anon. They asked for neither niggerbass nor exaggerated soundstage. These "features" are distortion anyways, making the headphones less generally capable and more catering to a niche.

>>60612024
games and movies require good bass response, HD600are missing this entire frequency range

>>60611525
>>60611887
it's not subjective because HD600 is objectively superior to the K702 hence the comparison

Always entertaining to see how little HD600fags know about the headphones they shill on a daily basis, or headphones in general. They got a basic understanding of how to read a frequency response graph thanks to some reddit guides and now endlessly spam this shit.

Coincidentally, 'sheep' in my captcha.

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>>60612108
HD600 has bass.
>>60612143
Can you name a better headphone?

>>60612100
"exaggerated" soundstage is actually a good thing for gaymes and movies. So is niggerbass.
Holy fuck you are clueless as shit. Let me guess, HD600 are your first and only non-shit headphones, which you promptly bought 2 months ago after gee told you to?
I actually agree that HD600 are very good headphones in general, but if someone is specifically looking for headphones for movies or gaming you don't recommend them headphones with shit soundstage.
I would never recommend beyerhiss dt990 for music, but for gaymes it does very well. Similarly I don't particularly like k702 for music, but it works well for gaymes and movies.

>>60612100
>HD 600
>Massive bass roll-off
>Any more bass = nigger bass
I'm not even going to touch the HD 600's extremely narrow soundstage and how they're garbage for gaming. What are you even trying to say?
>These "features" are distortion anyways
Lmao.

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>>60611540
No, I'd say the Pro 80 is a solid choice, but I don't know where you can buy one for cheap, other than for $145 on Aliexpress. But there's the new version of it, the Pro 82, that's supposed to be a flat out better version of it. Pic related

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Takstar-PRO82-pro-82-Professional-monitor-headphones-for-Computer-recording-K-song-game-stereo-headset/32808454492.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Takstar-PRO82-pro-82-Professional-monitor-headphones-stereo-HIFI-headset-for-Computer-recording-K-song/32811235476.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Genuine-Takstar-PRO82-pro-82-Professional-monitor-headphones-stereo-HIFI-headset-for-Computer-recording-K-song/32811589590.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132190489954

If that's too expensive, this is supposed to be similar to the Pro 80, according to the chinkshit general infographic:

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170527111001&SearchText=ISK+HP2011

>>60612133
Go back to school, silly underaged.

>>60612214
>soundstage
>real

Not that faggot you're responding to, but no matter the application, high fidelity reproduction is always best. If you've got personal preference for peaky sibilant highs like K702 then by all means get that.

>>60612164
>at least 10db rolloff at 20 hz
>has bass
Sure thing kiddo. Super flat headphones you have there.

>>60612100
>When my KCS75's have allegedly accurate soundstage

>>60612246
>>soundstage
>>real
>Owns HD 600s
>No soundstage
Kek. Like clockwork.

>>60612214
>>60612227
>"exaggerated" soundstage is actually a good thing for gaymes and movies. So is niggerbass.
That's, like, your opinion.
I, for one, do not enjoy having my neck sliced when footsteps sounded like they were a hundred meters away.

>>60612253
>20hz mattering in music

jamal pls

>>60611540
>>60612235
Oh, and there's also these two

https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170527113600&SearchText=ISK+MDH8500
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170527113727&SearchText=ISK+MDH9000

>>60612296
>Owns HD 600s

I don't.

Doesn't stop me for calling the K702 terrible headphones.

In fact they're so trash Harman replaced them with a HD518 for their main testing headphone at one point.

>>60612253
>at least 10db rolloff at 20 hz
That's bassy as fuck. 20hz should be way lower if targetting a neutral response.

>>60612298
Something tells me your headphones don't have any soundstage. I, for one, would like to know where the footsteps are coming from.

>>60612366
Just literally EQ the soundstage in senpai lmao

>>60612298
M50X's have accurate soundstage according to this anon

>>60612366
>>60612400
>soundstage meme
Gaymen 7.1 is just for you.

>>60612334
>Soundstage isn't real
>>60612391
>Just EQ the soundstage up a bit, famalam
>>60612416
>Soundstage is real, but it's a meme
Kek. I don't know which HD 600 fag to believe.

>>60612299
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MOVIES AND GAMES YOU STUPID NIGGER, MOVIES AND GAMES.

>>60612349
How so?

>>60612429
Soundstage is just a perception based on frequency response variations.

The whole footsteps thing needing soundstage is a huge fucking meme. Pro gamers are trained in listening for footsteps by spending thousands of hours in their video games. It's all listening skills, they can do it with in-ear headphones or full-sized headphones, it doesn't matter.

Daily reminder to ignore HD600 shills as they don't know anything about headphones and just parrot what they were told on reddit.

>>60612474
Those are the same post, anon.

What's the SHP9500 alternative again?
IIRC there was another good open bright headphone in that budget

>>60611736
HD650. I use it for vidya, music, and movies, and love it

>>60612416
We are talking about gayming; thank you, anon.
>>60612466
Lmao. Still doesn't stop the HD 600s from having a narrow-as-fuck soundstage.

>>60612522
>HD650
Good choice, that will trigger the HD600 subhumans

>>60610136
>>60611736
dt770 80 ohm, if you want to pay more, MSR7 in EU, K553 in NA
if you want open, dt880 250 ohm with an amp

>>60612502
Takstar something.
>>60612529
Well soundstage was never real in the first place, if we were to discuss why the HD600 is perceived as sounding 'near' as opposed to 'far', it would be the frequency response of the headphone, namely around the 3k region where is the most sensitive region of our ears, which we use to gauge distance of sound in the real world.

>>60612502
Superlux HD 668B/681/681F/681B
AD700X/900X
HE-350
A500Z

>>60612563
I said narrow, anon. Not deep or shallow.

>>60612563
>which we use to gauge distance of sound in the real world.
[citation needed]

>>60612502
>IIRC there was another good open bright headphone in that budget
It was add 50 dollars.

>>60611736
>>60612522
HD600. I use it for everything while at home. One of my best purchases ever.

>>60612594
this

>>60612594
Now see
>>60611993

>>60612563
2050 is more V shaped than bright IIRC

>>60612565
weren't the 350s shit?
when they first dropped someone from here got them & said they didn't compare at all to hifiman's other stuff

>>60612502
I'd much rather get one of these, to be honest

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/takstar-HI-2050_115356632.html

see >>60611127 and >>60611246

>>60612607
>Weren't the 350s shit?
>>60612607
Overall, they sound better than the SHPs, but its QC is so bad, it shouldn't even be worth considering.

>>60612081
>HyperX Cloud

They're garbage, though.
Sure, it's a slightly better deal than Cloud 2 where you pay 50% extra for an extremely shitty USB DAC, but the sound on both sucks dick.

>>60612607
They didn't compare to Hifiman's other stuff because they're dynamic drivers rather than planar and meant to comoete with the headphones around that price range (558/SHP9500/ADx Series)
>>60612667
Well that's expected, that's why I said IF he's absolutely dead set on a combined mic/headphone combo. Maybe even that weird 681 EVO headset but they're pretty bad headphones as well. There aren't any decent 'headsets' in his price range.

>>60612667
Everything is shit in this price range. You should only compare those kind of headphones to shitty gaming headsets and stock earbuds, which is what most people use their whole life.
When you look at it like this clouds measure really well.

>>60612667
hyperx cloud is decent, it's a takstar pro 80 which is a pretty good pair of headphones with an detachable mic at the same price as pro80

with the pleather pads I feel like the bass is too strong but with the cloth pads it comes with, it sounds very similar to my SR850 (668b) with less soundstage (which is logical since 850 is open & cloud is closed).

>>60603986
That Y like cable to both ears is fucking gay.
Like wtf Senncuckeiser

>>60612667
HyperX Cloud are the best 'gaming headset' on the market since they're just a Takstar Pro 80 with a mic attached.

>>60612796
Weight balance

80
Portugal
pref open
full size
bright

>>60612796
idiot. You're supposed to use a balanced cable, connected a balanced amp, fed by a balanced dac.

Also, you should keep your head perfectly level at all times, else it'll sound unbalanced.

>>60612081
Well I've had a Cloud for a while until it broke. Then I got a replacement and it broke.
They're shit quality is what I'm getting at, but thanks a bunch for the other propositions

>>60612810
best price/performance
there's better headsets but they're horribly overpriced

>>60612878
Name a better headset

>>60612810
>>60612730

I know they're just Takstar rebrands, but I disagree that they're good.
Yes, the sound becomes slightly less shit with the velour pads, but they're still about $30 worth of "good."
I do have to admit they're pretty comfy, though, better than the Beyers they rip off, which is kind of funny.

>>60609570
All of these have the other the ear cable I want to avoid

>>60612884
price no object?
HMD380.

>>60612935
Please tell me you're joking

>>60612920
>but they're still about $30 worth of "good."
they're 40 dollars worth of "the best"
since I got them for 60 that's still a great option.

>>60612884
audio technica also pulled the "take good headset and add microphone" but unlike with the cloud, they just slapped an extra 100$ on the price

>>60612957
Why would I be joking? It beats gaymen cloudshit alright.

>>60612983
audio-technica don't have any good standalone headphones
>>60612985
presumably you mean the hmd280 which are based on the HD280, which are terrible headphones. The HD380 are also terrible headphones.

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>>60612832
>>60612849
Isnt it just another /hpg/ meme?

>>60613016
The second post was, but having one heavy cable hanging off one side of your headphones isn't comfortable

>>60613002
audio technica probably has the most good headphones out of any brand

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>>60613038

>>60613038
>>60613053
>meme technica

>>60613053
>>60613083

I should have known you were a shitposter when you said "*brand* has no good headphones"

>>60613023
Yeah you are right. I just remember PSVR and their extension cable which most of the time hang around and pull headset down to the ground.

>>60613106
it's funny because you can't name a single good autio-technica headphone

>>60613038
>>60613083
>>60613106
Literally one model: m40x
The rest? Colored garbage, bad vs headphones priced similarly, or both.

>>60613136
Different anon, I would think M40X, ADx Series (excluding the 500X), R70X and the Az Series.

>>60613148

Not an Audio Technica fan overall but AVC500 / T500 shit on the Clouds pretty hard and you could always get them much cheaper.

>>60613235
Not very hard to beat gamershit.

I'm buying some high quality iems and my budget is ~200. I'm split on either the sennheiser ie80s or the 1more quad drivers.

Anyone have any experience with either? Bit hesitant picking up 200 dollar chinese earphones, but people are raving about them.

I'm thinking about gettin HD600. But I'm not sure if it is not just another meme to fall.
Is there any other headphones to compare to HD600?

>>60613305
Yes, plenty. What headphones do you own currently?

>>60613136
m40x, MSR7, AD line, some of the A line

>>60613305
yes, it depends what you want
fill out the form in OP

>>60613305
If you're not sure, you're probably better off going on a round of reading/watching reviews, anon.
Here you'll only read people who recommend HD600 for everything to everybody, even if need closed headphones or don't even have $100 on hand, and trolls that spit bullshit about sennheiser headbands snapping, The Veil or literally no bass.

>>60613305
>Is there any other headphones to compare to HD600?
No, there are competitors but they're vastly inferior like DT880 and K702.

>>60613448
In the end, it depends on your personal preference. It's not as clear-cut like some anons like to put it.

>>60613339
>>60613378


>Budget
400€
>Location
Europe
>Source
PC, amp, phone
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
I would like to try open one. But still I'm not sure.
>Comfort level
Comfy one
>Sound signature
>Past headphones
I got for birthday m40x and after one month some mofo steal it. Kinda like em.
I use for my walkman Koss Porta pro. Like that "retro" look.
And these wireless PS4 headphones. Got them in sale. They broke after ten days, left ear stop working. So now they are in repair.
Also sony xperia headphones...
In general I had or have "cheap" boring headphones.

To be honest I'm not headphones pro. Money isnt problem for me. I think that I will get recommended headphones and keep the one that I will like.

>>60613448
What the hell? They aren't even in the same price bracket.

>>60613526
if you kinda like m40x, 600 will prob be a good bet

if you're going to use them on your phone you might not want open, because that seems to imply you'll use it on the go. And everybody hates people who use open headphones on public transport

if you want a safer option, consider picking up something cheap like a superlux 668b or 681, trying it out & seeing how you like it compared to the m40x. that should help determine what sound profile you enjoy the most

it's kind of a pain if you get the 600 & they're not really what you're expecting

>>60613526
What are you going to use them for?

>>60611969
fuck off rebbit shill

>>60613603
To listen mechanical oscillation.
Ordinary stuff: music, gaymes, movies, animeme, mango.

But mostly music.

>>60613602
I'm not using public transport often. And when I have to it is for short distance from parking lot and back... But sometimes I have to travel to different places by train so I always have first class. So I'm alone in cupe. Also I'm alone in hotel.

Actually I'm pretty alone all the time...

>>60613526
HD600 are the go-to at your price range. My advice would be to do some research (not on 4chan!) on them so you're sure about what you're getting and why.

>>60613685
Unironically this. Don't fall for the HD 600 meme until you're absolutely sure what you want; not to mention, do enough research.

>>60613677
>Actually I'm pretty alone all the time...
a-anon

>>60613685
>>60613705
Ok anon. Anons?

I'm really sad cause of place where I live right now. There is zero showrooms for anything.
But like I said. There is no problem to buy it, try it and return it. Its just kinda annoying to do it.

>>60613750
:(

>>60613761
HD600 is the most neutral full-sized headphone.
If you liked m40x, this is pretty much m40x on steroids. A deadpan stare into the music.

>>60613840
>HD600 is the most neutral full-sized headphone.
But that's wrong you fucking retard

>>60613855
>If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.
What's your suggested full size neutral headphone?

>>60613840
But... They aren't even neutral at all...

>>60613888
Compared to what?
>>60613886

>>60613840
>HD600 is the most neutral full-sized headphone.
This is correct, the only thing that is better than the HD600 is the ER4SR.

>>60613886
not that anon but
400i

>>60613898
I'm not sure, but how can they be neutral with that large of a bass roll-off?

>>60613886
SRH1540

Before you even try to mention THD+N, the HD600 have high high THD+N as well so that argument is irrelevant.

>>60613919
>HiFiMan
>neutral
lulz.

>>60613840
So neutral headphones arent good for music.
For example I listen to prog rock music but also funk, blues rock and heavy stuff. So what to choose?

>>60613919
Incorrect. Lacks gain in the upper midrange.
>>60613932
That's the closed headphone and it's far from neutral. You're thinking the SRH-1440 / SRH-1840 which are actually more diffuse field than HD600.

>>60613951
neutral headphones are ideal for mastering and production

however, some people prefer neutral for listening, they're definitely a minority, but they do exist

>>60613886
Audeze LCD1

>>60613951
Something neutral, HD600 is suggested.
>>60613932
>Neutral.
Lol, no. They're bassy as fuck.
http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=4273&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=35&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph
>>60613983
>They're definitely a minority,
Harman ran some serious studies on this. The results disagree with your claim: The majority does prefer neutral headphones.

>>60613983
http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=12206

No.
>>60614009
Literally out of production, but yes.

>>60614017
[citation needed]

>>60614017
Your definition of neutral and Harman's definition differ.

>>60614026
Ayyy, got em' Sennshilling faggots.

>>60614017
>sennshilling
>>>/out/

>>60614009
>Audeze LCD1
Why can't they make a planar as good as this today? All planars produced today are bassy garbage.

>>60614031
Use google, you lazy fuck. Oh, >>60614031 found it for you.
>>60613929
>Literally no bass!
Go away.

>>60614017
>neutral
I think too. Also whenever I want I can spice the sound Up.

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So I always used headphones but wanted a pair of speakers, I'm no audiophile so I don't really know what to do.

Instead of buying a cheap pair of pc speakers I went hunting for some bookshelf speakers.

I got one of these second hand for cheap, Yamaha RX-596, and some 6 ohms panasonic speakers from an old stereo system I think.

It was like $40 for both.

Now I don't know what to do, how do I hook up the pc to the amp and to the speakers, do I need a dac?

Pls respond.

>>60614050
HD600 isn't the end-be-all of headphone neutrality. Yes, it's very neutral. But given the Shure's lack of reputation, high distortion, having never heard them myself. I have no idea what to think about it.
>>60614086
You can buy HD600 and EQ it to sound bassy, trebly, soundstagey or whatever. But then again, if you're using EQ, you might as well buy a $30 Samson/Superlux and get the same results.

>>60614082
Kek. You can't expect to make an argument without providing any proof, can you?

Lmao.
>Literally no sub-bass
>Barely any bass in general
>That bass roll-off
Kek. Literally no bass!

>>60614104
PC -> 3.5mm to RCA -> receiver

Speakers -> receiver

>>60614104
>how do I hook up the pc to the amp
Headphone jack to stereo RCA cable. You can grab one in the cheap chink shop around the corner or, probably a better idea, amazon basics.

>>60613305
HD650

>>60613305
R70X

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>>60614331
go back to /reddit/ you dumb cuck

I just got my MSR7's and they sound pretty quiet even at full volume, is this normal or did I get fakes?

>>60614474
see:
>>60604296

Stupid fucking meme.

>>60614140
>>60614150
ok ok, got it, but now, where do I plug the RCA cables that connect the PC to the Receiver?

CD, TAPE 1, PHONO, VCR, LD/TV?

>>60614489
That isn't even anon's pic. I'm still waiting for more pictures from anon.
>>60604347

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Bit of a long shot here, but maybe someone can help me out.
Found these earphones last week at my house, no idea where they came from. They have no markings or anything to signify a brand, and they have a small mic on the left line. The earphones and jack are made out of metal/stainless steel.
I like the audio quality and aesthetic, but the buds they have on them are too big for my ears, so I wanted to order some smaller ones. Anyone have any idea what brand these are so I can find some smaller cushions?

>>60614493
Literally anywhere, but if you're paranoid about the device doing some sort of extra processing specialized on some type of input, LD/TV and CD are the safest bets to plug your computer into.

>>60614483
You probably need an external amp if you aren't getting volume.
>>60614493
CD.

>>60614474
>napheiser
Seems comfy until it-
>snaps

>>60614541
Off to reddit with you.

>>60614552
Make me :^)

>>60614561
>using the smiley with the carat nose.

>>60614572
;^)

>>60614532
>>60614538
ok, now I found the manual online and it says CD has its separate own amp, what's the reason behind this?

Also would I need a DAC??

>>60613526
HD600 offer a balanced sound, incredible vocals and will fatigue you the least, but they have narrow, altho precise, soundstage and bass isn't really tight. DT880 have dat tight bass, still clean mids and boosted highs, but highs fatigue and because bass and highs are more boosted in relation to the mids they will fatigue. Dunno on akg, people quote their wide soundstage but that's about as much as I know.

Since you fall under weeb category of music I can recommend HD600, they really bring up vocals and their highs are tame so usually bright mastering, eps with idols it gets retarded sometimes, won't fuck your ears as much. There is also audio technica stuff like ADH-AD900 or AD1000 with ADH AD 900 having similar frequency response to HD600 and both having somewhat narrow soundstage, however weeb songs sounded somehow better on AD900. But in some places since they are from a japan they are quite overpriced. Try them out if you can and see yourself. To compare HD600 sounded warmer and had 'perceived', for me, more bass with AD900 having nicer highs, probably because they are more present on AD900.

>>60614474
But HD600 are the redditphones, people who know what they're talking about recommend the HD650

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>my mfw /hpg/ uses a bright compensation curve to determine neutrality

>>60614801
HD600 is more neutral, therefore it's objectively superior.

You have to go back.

>>60614827
>objectively
lol nice meme

>>60614825
HD600fags cling to DF like their lives depend on it

>>60614827
>Objectively superior
>In something subjective
Lmao.

>>60614827
There is a standard for accuracy, it exists on other peripherals such as monitors.

>>60614838
No, it's objectivity in sound preference, which is fairly rerated even by harmon study.

>>60614865
Funny how none of the Harman studies make mention of the HD600.

>>60614854
Thing is, HD600's mids and highs are perfectly on point with the Harman Curve, just the bass response is off. One could even argue that it's more Harman than DF.

>>60614865
>HD 600 objectively superior
>Some people still prefer HD 650s over the 600s
Hmmm...

>>60614891
They're too bright for the Harman curve and their bass is lacking even for DF let alone Harman. HD650 are much closer to the Harman curve, ie the ideal response.

>>60614827
Neutrality is a meme. HD650 sounds more natural.

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>>60614891
>muh Harman Curve
sennfag pottery

>>60614901
>some people
There's some, sure.
>>60614913
>too bright
They follow harman curve, whereas HD650 are dark. As in, not neutral but dark.

>>60614913
It's about the same, upper mids and treble on both are perfect for the Harman curve, HD650 has too much mid-bass output but closer to the sub-bass target.
>>60614922
No.

>>60614946
The HD600 do not follow the Harman Curve in treble response.

>>60614865
>The headphones I prefer are objectively superior to the headphones you prefer!
>Wah! wah!
Lmao. Kill yourself.

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>>60614955

>>60614976
And on that compensation curve the HD600 looks like a Beyer headphone. Now post the HD650 one.

>>60603986
There isn't one.

>>60615007
for
>>60614989

>>60614926
says something about how bad akgs are

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>>60615007
Don't lie.

>>60615048
Ouch.

>>60615048
OW != Harman.

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>>60615068

>>60615088

new thread

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>>60615068

>>60615097
Lmao. What is this? You didn't even wait for the thread to sage itself.

>>60615111
Thanks for proving me right.

>>60615084
https://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/04/sennheiser-hd-600-over-ear-headphones.html

They are different.

>>60615125
>barely 1dB difference
You can't even hear this

>>60615190
>damage control
You were wrong. Just give up.

>>60615201
you're just proving my point by admitting the difference between the two is inaudible

>>60615201
>Literally grasping at straws

>>60614878
They used HD800 to a large degree, which I think even after EQ, sonnarworks and my attempts at EQ which I won't grade as perfect but I am not a harmon researcher with all the resources to EQ them perfectly, are a better headphone than an HD600 esp in their mids clarity, it's just their stock sound reduces upper mids for soundstage game too much for my tastes. Other thing is that HD800 lock on your head and their sound doesn't really changes that much as you adjust them on your head. Might be something to do with with larger driver, or better cup construction.
>>60614964
Lul I didn't even quote HD600 you faggot.

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>>60614989
>>60615007
HD650 with Harman Target

from https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/acoustic-basis-harman-listener-target-curve

>>60615218
Innerfidelity HD650 measurements are not valid

>>60615214
Kek. Kys.

>>60615214
HD800 is really consistent on listeners' head. The stock signature is garbage but it's the ultimate headphone for EQ and comfort.

>>60606454
mind posting the names of the non-eurobeat albums?

>>60615212
Maybe if you're deaf.

>>60615281
Not deaf enough to unironically listen to the HD600

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>>60615230

>>60615293
Really bad damage control you got there, bud.

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>>60615306
You newfags are an adorable bunch.

>Here's a simple peer-review on EURI's HD650 measurements(Blue/Orange) compared to other simulator data. While the red graph is of GRAS 43AG of Stereophile, the cyan plot is of B&K 4128C of Samsung Electronics. And as expected, Innerfidelity's Head-acoustics HMS.II data (light gray) don't quite add up here somehow.

>>60615315
>DAMAGE CONTROL DAMAGE CONTROL
Literally you.

>>60615322
Ad hominem invective isn't doing you any favors to help prove your point. This random quotation you've made means nothing to me without any sort of context whatsoever.

>>60615457
I'm not here to baby you r/headphones rejects.

>>60615465
>Muh Reddit bogeyman!
Lmao, go back to where you belong.

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>>60615465
>ask for proof to back up the claims he's made
>refuses to prove his point, likely because he doesn't actually have any proof

>>60615580
>post evidence
>ask for proof of evidence
??

>>60615602
Are you slightly stupid? All you need to do is cite your sources. How the hell am I supposed to know what you were quoting that from?

>>60615696
>not knowing Rin Choi's blog
Like I said, I'm not here to hold your hand you fucking reddit newfag.

>>60615696
Are you monumentally retarded?
Google search the following, including the quotation marks: "Here's a simple peer-review on EURI's HD650 measurements(Blue/Orange)"

>the absolute state of /g/ in the year of our lord 2017

And no, I'm not the person you are arguing with.

>>60615808
Lmao. You can't expect an argument without proof.

>>60615830
Proof was posted.

>>60615858
>proof was posted
Where's your proof?

>>60614057
Literally no planar in production is bassy.

>>60615214
Pretty sure they used HD 518

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