/hpg/ - Headphone General

is there a single girl which appreciates headphone?

>>60463097
My Mother often borrows my HD 650

>>60463087
much shill.

>>60463087
HD 820 info today?

So the DT1990s are pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L8gnhxrzto

>>60463604
source: fat neckbeard

>Budget
100-300€
>Location
Greece for prices check here -> http://www.skroutz.gr/c/1860/over-ear-akoystika.html Greek price comparison site.
>Source
Brand new motherboard with decent onboard sound card and getting good amp soon
>Type of headphone
Doesn't matter
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter either they're only going to be used at home
>Comfort level
Doesn't matter my ears are used to abuse
>Sound signature
Considering i'm kinda new at this and haven't ever tried decent headphones before i'll just mention the use here so
i suppose whatever delivers best on those catergories. First and foremost listening to music at loud volumes the
genres will vary from classical to electro to some metal varietions to modern orchestral(incorporates both orchestral
and electro sounds) and plenty of soundtracks all of which should have at least a 320kbps mp3 quality. Another very
important use for the headphones is going to be VR gaming on HTC VIVE and asmr so a good soundstage would be
very important.
>Past headphones
Shitty cheap headsets

So at this point i'm between hd 600 for 265€ or the hd 650 for 285€, many seem pleased with the hd 600 and might be
the headphones for me considering i don't know yet what kind of sound i like and people here claim they're good
all-rounders. Should i maybe consider a different brand at this price range? I just want to get to the end-game and only
have to think about upgrading again years later when i actually earn a decent living.

Also will a 20 year old good expensive amp that was mainly used for speakers but also has headphone 1/4 jack and
can connect to my motherboard be my end-game amp(not sure if it has dac included)? The thing is, schiit has 0 greek
sellers and when i cheked their prices they dont ship here or say they're out of stock, and e10k is a non end-game 100€
tier amp that just throws me way over my budget so i'd rather get my dad's used amp since he doesn't use it anymore.

>>60454536
Anyone?

>>60464034
HD600 are best regarded despite cheaper, so it's pretty much a no brainer. The HD650 are a slightly colored version that particularly favors bass and recesses treble.

Most reviewers that done both do prefer the HD600 and they're pretty much the only headphones you'll ever need.

>>60464096
God, i hope i don't get meme'd the place i'm ordering them from is on the other side
of the country and if i want to return them i have to pay to ship them back.

>>60464034
>>60464220
>HD 600
>Good soundstage
It's not very wide at all but if you like them, they're pretty good. K612 is the poor man's HD 600 with wide soundstage.

>>60464034
>>60464220
I've personally used both 600 and 650, both are great.

I prefer the 650 but the 600 is close behind in my book; extraordinary headphones for the price either way

Are the Monoprice Monolith M560 worth the price?
i currently have the beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus

>>60464265
Hmm, so would this mean the hd 600s soundstage will be a poorer experience? I think for vr and ero-asmr use a wide soundstage would be rather important
>>60464286
Which one do you think has a better soundstage? Considering they only have a 20 price difference here.

>>60464362
They're nearly identical

>>60464362
What "wide soundstage" really means is colored (exaggerated) soundstage.

The HD600 is a neutral AF headphone which gives it to you as it is, including soundstage.

Of course it does not sound "artificially narrow" like closed headphones do.

>>60464475
Agreed, the 600/650 can still sound very wide on tracks that purposely exaggerate the soundstage

>>60464475
I see, i suppose hd 600 is the safest option then considering i don't know if i like the coloring of the hd 650

>>60464658
Go for it, you really can't go wrong with either.

Just keep in mind they'll be a little tight when they arrive, give them a week or so to strech out.

Do /NOT/ strech the band at the top, bend the metal gently if you have to

>>60464693
Alright
>Just keep in mind they'll be a little tight when they arrive, give them a week or so to strech out.
>Do /NOT/ strech the band at the top, bend the metal gently if you have to
good to know.

HD800 is synonym for wide-soundstage

>>60464475
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=3591&graphID[]=573&scale=20
I mean they're both pretty close in the FR graph. He's going to be using them for VR so immersion i would think would be a priority. My Superlux 681's sounded exaggerated while I had them though they were some of the cleanest headphones I've heard.

>>60464769
>>60464362
I'd go with the *correct* soundstage of HD600.

What exaggerated soundstage will give you in VR is shit right next to you or right in front of you would sound as if it was FAR AWAY, which definitely you do not want.

posted in the old thread at the end so reposting here:

>Budget
$150-200
>Location
CA, USA
>Source
PC mostly
>Type of headphone
Full sized - portable is a plus
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
8+
>Sound signature
Warm / v shaped
>Past headphones
gaming headsets and samsung IEMs

Also looking for some desktop speakers to replace my logitech ones that i've had for several years. Are Mackie CR4s good for the price ($150) or is there a better option in that price range?

>>60465054
Custom One Pro

>>60465054
Sennheiser HD599, AKG k702, HD598se.

>speakers
JBL LSR305

>>60465054
HD598 SE

$157 on Amazon right now

>>60465104
>speakers
Thats quite a bit higher than my budget for speakers, would like to stay in the $150 range on them too

>>60465129
Would I need an amp/dac for them?

>>60465143
Straight from your PC/Phone will be fine but you might benifit from one in the future. If you do order them wait a month or so and see if they're too quiet or have any distortion, then order something like the Fulla 2

>>60465143
They don't need one but their electrical impedence and phase graph is all types of wonky. It'll improve in bass with an amp though doesn't need one to get loud or be driven properly.

>>60465143
>Would I need an amp/dac for them?
No need (they'll sound good without, already), but having one would benefit you (they'd sound better). How much better will depend on your source.

Most smartphones have builtin amps these days, so you can play a youtube or something on them and compare with your computer.

Note many recent motherboards have a built-in headphone amp too, which should suffice. You'd typically get a dialog when plugging the headphones to a computer jack asking which type of headphone. The fullsized and/or automatic settings will enable the amp. This only helps in boards that actually have an amp. See your manufacturers' spec. Asus calls it something like crystal audio 2 and is explicit with the amp thing. Other brands have equivalent such commercial names for it.

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Hey retards, what can you tell me about the KZ ZS3?

>>60465366
Warmish-dark, great sub-bass, amazing fit, but shit stock cable.

They're good for the price, and even better if you get a silver ZS3 cable which are like $4 on eBay. Stock cable picks up a ton of noise from rubbing on clothes and stuff.

There are mods to remove some dampening foam to make them sound better too. Search for it on head-fi.

>>60464034
I recommend the 650. I use mine for both music and vidya and it's great, especially for long sessions. The price difference between it and the 600 is probably because it has a nicer cable and a more sturdy headband.

Both of them should sound great on that tube amp, but if you want a good neutral solid-state amp+dac at some point, check out the audio-gd NFB-11. They'll ship it to you there

>Budget
$0-$300
>Location
USA West Coast
>Source
Phone / Laptop
>Type of headphone
Looking for Fullsize or IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Need to be able to wear them 8 hours a day, so pretty comfortable
>Sound signature
N/A
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 595
AKG K712
AKG K701
Shure SE215-K
RHA MA750


I work in an extremely noisy environment where I need ear protection, at the moment I'm using my RHA MA750's to reduce the noise and listen to music while I work. I use these for 8 hours a day and they are fairly comfortable. Where they fall short is after a while my ear seems to get sweaty and they start falling out which leaves me with no ear protection until I completely dry out my ears. This usually happens at around the 4 hour mark. I'm using the plastic ear tips with these if that makes any difference. Now I'm considering buying regular full-size headphones or new IEM's that work in my noisy environment and will stay in my ear.

With the RHA MA750's I'm also able to still hear enough to talk to my coworkers without taking them out but I am able to drown out enough sound that I'm pretty sure it's safe for my ears, was hoping to find something similar, this however is not a major aspect and can be ignored. Thanks for any help.

>>60465864
HD380 Pro. Reputable, neutral, excellent (-32dB) isolation.

>>60465864
380Pro - Full sizs
Etymotic MK5/HF5 - IEM

>>60465864
ER4XR

>>60465889
>>60465910
>>60466042
Thanks guys, I'm leaning towards the HD 380s, I really liked my old Sennheisers. Would it be worth it to buy a portable amp with these?

>380 is neutral
who started this?

>>60463604
Can't stand this fucking guy. Just listen to his voice.

>>60466281
d-dont bully metal kun please

>>60466217
They should be fine without one.
>>60466294
Thicc Papa

>>60466294
s-sorry

>Budget
Up to about $80, may consider slightly more if really worth it.
>Location
Poland, so shit is expensive.
>Source
PC with onboard audio.
>Type of headphone
Fullsize.
>Open or closed
Preferably closed, but I don't outright reject open.
>Comfort level
Pretty comfortable (wearing them for half a day).
>Sound signature
I think neutral, but I'm not really sure.
>Past headphones
Philips SHP2500
Sennheiser HD201
Takstar HI2050
The Takstar ones just broke (the usual problem - sound coming from only one headphone due to shitty cables). I'd prefer something really durable (especially when it comes to the cables), since I'd rather not replace them soon.

>>60466346
Get a soldering iron, dummy.

>>60466217
>Would it be worth it to buy a portable amp with these?
They work fine without, and I used mine without for a year or so.

Then I got a fulla2 and yes, they sound even better.

>>60466346
Fix your Takstars with a soldering iron or Status CB-1 (Status NC27 on Amazon.de)

Do any of you know where I can find MDR-Z7 drivers?

>>60466981
Check with Sony directly through their Support line.

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can I use something like this with my E10K to make it with 2 devices simultaneously via USB?

OEM MH2001 5-in-1 master race

>>60467102
doubt it

>>60467102
No.

Also, if you wanted an aux input (line-in jack), you should have gotten yourself a Fulla 2.

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>mfw listening to Naked & Wired (1991) 24/192000 FLAC on Sennheiser Orpheus

>>60465366
Garbage compare to Rock Zircons. Rock's cable is actually decent and not microphonic

>>60468706
>>60465753

It's interesting the ZS3 would have microphonic issues when the lower end ATE and ATR do not.

Do you guys not loop around your ear?

Is VBR good?

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>Budget
Up to $80 (USD). Preferably around $60 though.
>Location
United States
>Source
PC's onboard audio
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Pretty comfy desu. Not a huge deal but I'll be wearing them a lot.
>Sound signature
Pretty neutral but a bit of bass isn't a bad thing at all. As long as it isn't Beats level that's fine.
>Past headphones
JVC HA-RX700
Sony MDR-XB400
Some Koss Thing
Garbage

Currently on the JVCs right now but the pads are falling apart and one of the hinges has snapped. It's held together with electrical tape right now. I just want something that surrounds my ears.

Any place to buy them is a-ok. Just not used.

>>60469023
>$80

They're not open but the koss porta pro destroys any closed headphone around that price imo.

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>>60469119
I should've been more specific. I want around the ear headphones like my current JVCs.

>>60469023
Somic MM185/Status CB-1

>>60469162
Any real difference between the two? Amazon reviews say the first is the same as the second, just different branding.

What's the point of $500+ headphones when a pair of cheaper JBL LSR 305 beats them in every single way?

>>60469187
They exactly the same. The Status has a detachable cable, Somic doesn't. I'd also take a look at XPT100's.

Found a seller for the Somic for $35, but the store is probably sketchy and it just launched:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B071V7NV4H/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

On a scale of 1 to 10 how much would I get ripped off if I bought these?

>>60469023
Superlux HD-685

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I'm really happy with the HD600. This is it, I don't need to go deeper into the rabithole, right?

>>60469157
Sorry, I don't know much about cheaper closed headphones. Someone will help you out I'm sure.

>>60469412
You don't have to if you don't want to. I've been in Poor-Fi hell with PortaPros, 668B/681/SR950 and now about to grab Superlux 562's to replace these PortaPros. This cheap shit's surprisingly good.

>>60469295
-$35 gone forever

>>60469199
What's the point in coming into this thread when you don't give a shit about headphones? headphones are their own thing. They're fun and direct. I prefer direct sound over speakers when it comes to music.

>>60469577
>-$35 gone
B-but that means anon got $35 back!

>>60469412
I've spent a a lot of money on headphones and amps and the 600 has been my endgame for fucking ages. If you're happy with the minimal bass then you will never need to change them. What amp do you use?

>>60469295
Just from look of those headphones I can say that they are bad, not exactly your model, but company in general.
I recommend you to buy ISK or SUPERLUX.
I bought ISK HP2011 for $40, good frequency response and feedbacks.

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>>60469622
>>60469577
>>60469295
Just look at this.

>>60469558
Portapros were pretty cool, my pads disintegrated over time, however.
>>60469639
I'm using the E10k as a placeholder. A >friend let me try out the Stack but I'm not sure if I really want to drop that much shekels for it. I've had them for 6 months now, very satisfied. I also didn't pay the almost $400 price on it, I got them back when they were $260 or so.

>>60469199
I have LSRs on desk but I use headphones with laptop in any other part of apartment or when I want LOUD at night.

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>>60469295
What kind of sound do you want? Lot's of bass, or more like monitoring headphones?

>>60469295
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Superlux-HD668B-Semi-open-Professional-Studio-Standard-Monitoring-Dynamic-Headphones-For-Music-Detachable-Audio-Cable/32810408098.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.84.xHprE2&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10152_10065_10151_10068_10136_10137_10157_10060_10138_9999_10155_10062_10156_437_10154_5010020_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100032_100033_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_10147_10052_10053_10050_10107_10142_10051_10170_5190019_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10181_10183_10182_10185_10078_10079_10073_10123_142,searchweb201603_1,ppcSwitch_5&btsid=3369e7b1-420c-4ebe-a80b-7c9204fe9288&algo_expid=713eafe1-1fac-4161-ae3c-4c60b912eb7a-11&algo_pvid=713eafe1-1fac-4161-ae3c-4c60b912eb7a

>>60469412
There is nothing better.

>>60470041
Other than the HD650.

>>60469832
I had the e10k too when I bought them, it's a great amp for what it is, but the fulla 2 is better, it costs a lot more for Europeans but it's worth it imo. The highs are less harsh and the bass is better. 600+fulla 2 is my endgame.

>>60470240
Great headphone but they're mud city compared to the 600.

>>60469832
My pads are shitting the bed a little too. They're starting to preserve the indentations from my ears after only 2 months.

>Budget 100-200
>Location France
>Source Mostly mobile and PC
>Type of headphone Whatever
>Open or closed Closed
>Comfort level Comfy
>Sound signature I dont know
>Past headphones ATH M50X but broken of rage because im autistic

>>60470240
>recommending the deliberately inferior version for casuals who can't handle neutrality

top kek

>>60470428
literally this lmao. 650's are normie mode compared to the 600.

>>60470411
>Past headphones ATH M50X but broken of rage because im autistic
I recommend you shot yourself. I bet you broke them after getting a fit losing in gayme.

>>60470428
Neutrality is a meme.

>>60470549
>Neutrality is a meme.

To a degree , but the 600 adds a little bit of warmth, which makes them incredible.

>>60470540
Yes

>Budget

$200, flexible

>Location

USA

>Source

Phone, shitty tablet, and laptop.

>Type of headphone

IEM

>Comfort level

I would like to have some pretty comfortable headphones, so sound quality is not as important to me.

>Past headphones

Apple earbuds: These things really hurt my ears.
Monoprice 9927: Compared to the earbuds these ones sounded bad, but were slightly more comfortable.
Koss Porta Pros: I really enjoyed these and am not opposed to having headphones instead of IEM. I liked that these were comfortable and had pretty great sound.

The big issue I have with headphones is I tend to fuck up the cables and connector. I end up bending the connector and then I have to move the cable around to a certain position to have sound come out. This happened to my Porta Pros. I fixed the connector, but the cable is still kinda fucked.

Zeos said the ATH M40x are great for it's price, is that true? How good does /g/ think they are?

>>60468641
24bit 192kHz is a fucking meme dude, big time. Enjoy taking dicks in the ass just to afford storage space for one fucking song.

I have a few questions
I got a 770 (250 Ohm) as my first high end cans, tried them for a couple of hours and they sounded worse than a 2$ earphone chink cable, my laptop couldn't drive them at all, bass was not existent and the songs sounded like whispers.
So I packed them and ordered a fiio e10, it's the cheapest amp, and was recommended everywhere (fulla was an option but it costs more than double the e10k to have it delivered to my country, not counting taxes)
The e10k definitely drives them like a champ, but they sounded so generic, I don't know how to describe it in an audiophile terms, but they were so boring and the sound was so boring.
I read about burn in, thought that was some kind of gimmick, so I left home today with a 12 hour playlist and returned and holy shit, these things sound much more fun, I never want to take them off, every things sounds much more clearer. the bass is heavier and the details are much clearer in all types of songs.
the e10 at half the volume sounds pretty loud, while having it at max at first didn't sound too loud.

final q:
h gain and l gain:
is there a point of using h gain ever?

sorry for the blog

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Just got my Monolith M1060 and Monoprice 11567 combo. It's pretty great let me tell ya. The headphones themselves are comfy as fuck. And they sound amazing, a huge upgrade from Sennheiser HD598s and a Sound Blaster Z. Maybe it's just because I haven't heard $10,000 Stax or whatever, but I find it hard to believe it can get much better from here. Sure, the sound signature could change, but that's about it. These things sound so clear. Huge soundstage too. Only downside is spending $400 on headphones I guess.

>>60470961
*crack*

>>60471060
If it happens, they have a five year warranty. So no big deal.

>>60470867
>Zeos said
You lost me there.
>is that true?
For portable headphones, yes. For other uses no.

>>60470411
Tascam TH-02 because you don't deserve nice things.

>>60470922
Burn in isn't real, you memed yourself.

Use the high gain if you're not getting enough volume.

>>60471192
>Burn in isn't real, you memed yourself.

there's a lot of written articles that unironically make fun of the "burn in" meme

AKG K702 or Beyerdynamic 770 PRO 32Ohm?

>>60470755
>warmth
You mean midbass bloat. Disgusting.

>>60471429
Compared to what? the midbass gives the 600's body. I'm genuinely interested to know what headphone you think sounds clearly better than the 600.

>>60471409
Prices?

>Budget
~$125 +/- $25
>Location
-US
>Source
-PC
>Type of headphone
-Full
>Open or closed
-Closed (most important for me)
>Comfort level
-max comfy but not at the cost of muh isolation
>sound signature
-neutral

>>60471613
The 600s with midbass EQd down sound much better. It also brings it closer to neutral.

>>60471920
HM5 - Comfy
380 Pro - Muh Isolation (-32dB)

>>60470897
Naked & Wired is a disaster of a live album notorious for how poorly it was recorded from a mess of a show

>>60471985
They don't need to be neutral though. The 600's are amazing but their only downside is the bass in general. Can you name a headphone that you prefer to the 600?

Anyone know if these are any decent, some people on Head-fi were saying they were amazing and they paid $60-$80 for it off resellers
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Yenona-Studio-Pro-DJ/32705349478.html?

>>60472153
Neutral sounds better. Why are you so intent on attacking some hypothetical headphones I like more than the 600? It's irrelevant, I'm saying the 600 sounds better with less midbass.

>>60472172
>Some people on Head-fi
Say no more, they shill just about anythibg and everything.

>>60472208
>Why are you so intent on attacking some hypothetical headphones I like more than the 600? It's irrelevant, I'm saying the 600 sounds better with less midbass.

I'm not attacking anything. I know that the 600's aren't the flattest headphones available. I just want to know what you prefer over the 600's.

>>60471409
I recommend lurk for 3 more years before posting.

>>60472303
What flatter headphones are there? Etymotics? Can't stand IEMs.

>>60468751
Both the ATE and ATR do too.

>>60472349
>What flatter headphones are there?

I'm not sure desu. The 702's are brighter and wider at least. Amazing headphones for what they are. What headphones do you use?

>>60471409
Dude, those have nothing in common, are you sure you know what you are looking for?

AKG K240 or Superlux HD668B?

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>Budget
$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Computer mostly
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Would prefer closed I think
>Comfort level
Compromise on comfort if it means better sound
>Sound signature
Warm
>Past headphones
Gamer headsets that have lasted a surprisingly long time, pic related

>>60473315
red ring HD681 + velour pads

Is "streaming" my media from NAS an acceptable solution to my multiplatform needs or total baka tier?

>>60473556
>red ring HD681

Thanks, do I need to worry about counterfeits since they discontinued it?

>>60473601
>>>/g/sqt

>>60473616
Nope, they're cheap chinese headphones. You could also look at the 681F and 681B varients.

>>60473616
>>60473933

Know anything about the Samson SR850?

Do they compare at all to the cream of the cheap chinese crop?

>>60474024
Rebranded Superlux HD 681's with better pads.

>>60473616
I doubt you have anything to worry about it being counterfeit. You should probably get these velour pads for it though, the ones it comes with are crap

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Velour-Velvet-Ear-Pads-Cushion-Superlux-HD-HMD-Series-Pro-Studio-Headphones-/261643450065?var=&hash=item8281525eb0

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>>60474096

Sweet, you're the best guy, thanks

>>60474114

Virgin to velour pads; they look like they might get sweat soaked over the summer. Do you just replace them each season?

>>60474175
If you sweat a lot already, probably every three to four months. If you're like me, the driest motherfucker around all year around, probably every 18 months IF you don't clean your pads.

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>>60474211

Thanks, I'll try these out and see if its worth the upgrade to velours soon after. [spoiler]I gotta stay hygienic in the heat, holmes[/spoiler]

>>60474272
Samson SR850's already come with velour pads btw

>>60474096
Samson SR850 is a rebrand of the Superlux HD668B, not the 681

Looking for a comfortable wired headset under 80$. Will be gaming mostly.

>>60474635
>headshit
Read the fucking sticky desu.

>>60474337
That's incorrect, it's a rebrand of the HD681.

>>60474635
Spoonfag here, HyperX Cloud, the original ones from like 10 years ago or more.

>>60474745
Look it up

>>60474635
SHP9500/Status CB-1 + Vmoda BoomPro

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>>60469764

looks like the headphone equivalent of pic related

>>60469832
>>60470381
pads are wear items, you fucking jews. 3 pairs of replacements is under $7. jeesus fucking kryst

>>60474720
no damn respect.

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>>60474929
Not so fast.

>>60472801
I have the 701s and the HD600. The 701s are unfortunately slightly too small for my head.

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>>60470922
Burn in is very real in some cases, but most audio equipment doesn't really change. Never trust absolutists.

>>60471060
they aren't hd 600's anon

>>60469412
It's mid tier at best.

>Budget
~$35
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
IEM preferred
>Open or closed
if on ear closed
>Comfort level
as long as they dont hurt
>Sound signature
good bass impact would be nice
>Past headphones
apple earbuds
this shit: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXMBVIF/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

bose or grado recs?

>budget
Preferably under 75
>location
USA
>source
Galaxy S4 mostly, very light computer usage
>type
IEM'S
>comfort
As long as my ears don't bleed from extended use
>past headphones
Some horrible stock Samsung HS-330 IEM'S

>>60475522
>bose
>grado
both are complete shit get something AKG

just copped the fidelio X2
quite pleased with the sound and comfort level
but am just an audiophile in training, only thing I can actually compare it to is skullcandy
so... how badly did I just fuck up?

>>60475664
Not at all, they're pretty good for bassy open backs. Neutraloids call them muddy bass cannons though they do what they're supposed to do well. Be bassy open back headphones.

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what do you guys think of the HyperX KHX-H3CL? 3000+ reviews on amazon.

>>60475713
OG HyperX Cloud Cores are the only ones worth getting. They're rebranded Takstar Pro80's and are pretty nice budget headphones.

>>60475739
can you link on amazon if they're there?

>>60475759
Hyperx Cloud and Cloud Core are the same, Core just has less accessories. Cloud 2 has different drivers.

CB-1 sounds better and is comfier, and you can turn it into a headset with a boom pro.

>>60474819
It's a rebranded HD681. I've already looked it up and known this for quite a long time.
>>60475488
Mid tier in price but top tier performance. Better than every boutique audiophile headphone.

>>60475706
it is definitely a quality product with crystal clear sound, and they feel like they've been designed to be worn for long periods of time
just not 100% whether these are the best in their price range

>>60475840
>Better than every boutique audiophile headphone.

No.

>>60475853
There's a lot of competitors in that price range. It just comes to what you prefer around $200-$300.

anyone know if these are any good
https://www.amazon.com/Headphones-Microphone-Adjustable-Effects-H1-OVC/dp/B01JOWT65E/ref=lp_13892928011_1_1?srs=13892928011&ie=UTF8&qid=1495164684&sr=8-1

>>60465889
>>60466217

The HD380 Pro is not neutral. The bass is definitely enhanced. I can't tell about the treble, too much hearing damage.

>Budget
$150 CAD max
>Location
Canada
>Source
good ol computer audio jack
>Type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed. I can deal with a bit of sound leaking if it comes to it
>Comfort level
Maxed. I'll wear them 6+ hours a day.
>Sound signature
Balanced with a bit on the side of decent bass
>Past headphones
Sennheiser momentum on-ear. Sound is great but they make my ears turn literally red when I go to bed after long periods of use. I'll make them my on the go headphones once i get a home pair.

>>60476239
HM5

>>60476239
DT770 pro 80 ohm. Used if they're outside of your budget.

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>>60476299
>balanced
>DT770

>>60476309
What do you think balanced means?

>>60476239
K553 pro

How do V-Modas rank in terms of performance? The cost is fairly high, but if they could be purchased cheaply, are they worth it?

>>60475908
Yes. You're delusional if you think your sighted listening impressions matter.

It's no different from comparing GPUs objectively, the better one gets more FPS in the same conditions. The better measuring headphone is... better.

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How bad did I do considering I was looking for some portable headphones?

>>60476445
Considering cancelling and getting some Crossfade M-100, is it worth it?

>>60476403
nigger tier

>>60476403
>>60476480
no

Template:

>Budget
200$~300$
>Location
korea
>Source
Laptop and Phone
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
so far, I've been used closed headphones only,
I don't know how good opened headphones works. but I don't care about its closed or opened
>Comfort level
Dosen't matter
>Sound signature
I currently using Ultimate Ears TripleFi and I loved it sounds, so similar sounds could be good to me.
>Past headphones
First one i bought was Etymotic Kids. It dosen't get me so well.
I used Aurvana Live! before, It was not bad.
currently it's broken and I only got triple fi one so I wanna get some mid-tier headphone.

sry for my poor english

>>60476403
>>60476480
They are bass heavy, but built like tanks, if you want something durable with customization options, go for it, if you want something closer to neutral look elsewhere.

>>60476607
>built like tanks

Ive seen several used ones where the plastic shell cracks. How prominent an issue is that?

>>60476542
AKG K702

>>60476662
never seen that happen, i saw an Anon here showing his M100 that had fallen from his backpack during motorcycle rid, it was all fucked up and still working fine.

>>60476542
Maybe DT770 Pro 80ohm will give you the bass you want. No open headphone will give strong bass like the TripleFi.

>>60475522

Grado - made in USA, legendary customer service, excellent sound quality... their lower models on the used market are a real value, but new ones are worth the price, too.

>>60469157
Takstar Hi80, ISK something. They look like hyperx cloud.

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What are the comfiest headphones, and why are they Grados?

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>>60464096
I'm not into the whole "headphone" thing but

wow

SD600s are 2788 SEK or $316 and the store shows them as "added to inventory" in 2005.

You guys seriously pay $316 for a pair of headphones from 2005?

>>60476980
1998, silly anon :^)

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>>60476980

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>>60477000
So they are even older technology. In other words, you're paying enough to buy a nice surround receiver and speakers for a pair of headphones. Why would you do this?

>>60476980
>>60477069
Makes me mad how those camwhores make mad cash like this

>>60477069
Not sure, but speakers > headphones any day of the week, anon.

>>60476445
I just bought the same ones to go with a Sony NW-WM1A

What happened to the head-fi toplist? trying to go through headphones with my friend

>>60475713
welp. i just purchased these. i'm not feeling too bad about it but i doubt /g/ would back up my purchase.

Does anyone know if the 65th annie pads would fit on the m220? these https://www.amazon.com/AKG-M220-Professional-Definition-Headphones/dp/B0155DGHUI

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Thinking on buying these, will be my first ear dicks so I want to know as much as I can.

>>60476980
>>60477069
Avatarfag nvidia shill get
>>>/out/

>>60470922
"burn in" is just time for you to get used to something without focusing so much on the sound quality that it kills the enjoyment.

Im considering upgrading my ath m40x, is the DT880 a good choice?

>>60474635
HyperX Cloud, whatever version fits into the budget.

>>60476439
Doesn't take a blind test to know that the HD600 lack sub bass, just to name one of its shortcomings.

>>60479096
What headphones have good sub bass?

>>60479096
It actually has more than enough bass. Any more would only make it less neutral.

>>60475522
Bose are garbage other than for ANC
Grados are absolute shit. Their cheaper ones are legit better than their expensive ones. Shit comfort, grainy, bright sound.

>>60475664
They're /okay/. Too much mid-bass imo, and no sub-bass, though lack of sub-bass is an issue with most open dynamics. Grainy treble and peak in the highs aren't great.

>>60476958
>>60476958
I was listening to Leonard Cohen's new album on my 225e's and it felt like his voice was actually scraping against my ears, it was fucking great.
I wish Grados headphones were sturdier though, I'm scared of putting them in a bag.

>>60476334
Not him, but balanced doesn't equal a heavy V-shape.
Not sure what you've been smoking.

>>60479225
Disagree on the sound, Grados sound superb and have a level of clarity that can actually make music that was recorded and mastered poorly completely unlistenable. Which you might say is a bad thing, but this 'issue' also means that optimally-recorded and mastered music sounds even better.

They are not comfortable though, I'll give you that. But I never use my headphones for more than two hours at a time and it only really starts to hurt at that mark anyway.

>>60479280
>clarity
Muh clarity.

>>60479310
I like sounds being as distinct as possible.
>muh
/pol/-tier argumentation

>>60479325
Aren't grados shitty colored headphones with massive soundstage exaggeration?

I'm considering getting an external DAC for my 2016 MBP - the DAC I'm looking at takes USB B digital audio in, can I just connect it up via the USB C on the MBP? How do I get the audio to channel out via the DAC?

>>60479334
>shitty colored headphones
I've never seen them described as this. Any time I read up on them they were lauded for their autistic neutrality.
They do have a humongous soundstage though. If something is panned hard right it will actually sound like it's coming at a 90 degree angle from the direction of your face, I've never used headphones that are so extreme. I like it though. Very easy to isolate particular parts of the music and focus on them.

>>60479377
Look at the FRs, rather than listen to Grados believers.

>>60479389
Is every reviewer who gives Grados a good score (see: all of them) a disingenuous 'Grados believer'?

>>60479377
>grados
>neutral
you have to be baiting

>>60479334
They're coloured, yes, but far from shitty. I bought my 325s 3 years ago and never looked back, best headphones I've ever used. Obviously it helps that I mainly listen to rock/drone.

>>60479409
Yes.
>>60479431
>>60479280
Colored. The opposite of clarity. Don't blame records for your headphones shitty coloring.

>>60479412

grados are way too neutral they are like a speaker dangled in mid air no response....

ill stick to bass from iems

>>60479457
please do show a FR graph that backs that up

>>60479456
>The opposite of clarity
>sounds being so clear and distinct that a perceptive listener can spot faults in recording that are otherwise near-inaudible
>this isn't clarity

>>60479456
>I don't know what words mean: the post

Anyone know subwoofers?

Looking to add one to my LSR305s for a small room, and I was curious about tiers. There's $150 dollar ones, $300 ones, $500 ones and up. What do you get as the price rises, and what's the point of diminishing returns?

>tfw broken grados

;_;

>>60463604
Stop posting this every thread you retard

Who woke enough to know the HD650 is the true gentleman's headphone and the HD600 is for spergs who don't actually listen to music, just sine sweeps starting at 100Hz

>>60479673
How'd they break?
I'm the anon with the SR-225e's and I'm mad scared of breaking them. They may sound great but after a single trip with them in a bag I got panicked thinking that I ruined them and ever since I never took them out of the house.

>>60479765
I think I feel asleep with them on and threw them at the wall real hard.

>>60479472
>sounds being so clear and distinct that a perceptive listener can spot faults in recording that are otherwise near-inaudible
Those aren't faults. They're just shitty coloring in the grados backfiring.

>>60479793
If that's what you have to convince yourself in your anti-Grados crusade, senpai. Did uncle Grados fuck your mom or something?

>>60479808
It has been decades since Grados were considered good, why are you even trying

Has anyone here ever used the Superlux HD-330? I want something that's cheap and portable, so I'm wondering about their durability.

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>>60479808
Spreading lies about "clarity" when it's just, ahem, coloring.

>>60463087

So I pretty much don't know anything about what makes headphones good but I've seen the Hifiman HE400s and HE400is recommended on more than one occasion. Should I just pull the trigger on one of these? Am I in for a pleasant surprise?

>>60479832
>sound is the opposite of muddy
>B-BUT IT'S NOT CLARITY
Opposite of coloured is neutral. Opposite of clear is muddy.
>>60479826
By who other than you and other people on /hpg/ with an irrational hateboner for Grados?

>>60479833
Hifiman QC & Support.

Bad idea.

>>60479848
/hpg/ isn't the place for you if you like Grados. Go back to head-fi

>>60479848
Opposite of neutral is muddy.

What kind of record players do you guys have?

/g/ used to be grados friendly until the snapheiser monkeys took over

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>>60479882
>/g/ used to be grados friendly

>>60479887
it was like 7 years ago when I discovered grados here

>>60479882
This was literally never the case

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>>60479887

>>60479906
yea it was. they used to be on the recommendation list for sub 70 dollar headphones

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>>60479882
>grados
More treble rape than a beyer DT770, what the fuck murricia?

What's a good noise-isolating/cancelling headphone below 100$?

Opinions on the V-Moda Crossfade M-100?
I mostly listen to rock and electronic.

What's the difference between HD600 and HD650?

Also how is new vsonic gr07 classic/bass with detachable cable?

>>60481185
more bass and less treble, but you should just buy mk3's instead and just mod them. sound better than both.

>>60481292
What's "mk3"?

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>>60481316
fostex t40/t50rp mk3

Anyone using that really popular mod of Foobar2K to make it look like NCMPCPP by twnsnd have any idea how the fuck to get it to display EVERYTHING in your library?

>>60481350
nah, don't wanna do anything

>>60479887
Grados need safespaces :^)

>>60481185
fuck knows
the QC is so bad they might as well be the same headphones

>>60481525
you can always settle for 25 year old crap then, up to you.

>>60481185
HD600 are, besides good, about the most neutral full-sized headphones out there.

HD650 are a colored version for the musically challenged riffraff.

>>60477535
I had these and they broke after a week. I now have rock zircons and they sound and are more comfortable.

>>60476980
Sennshills go on about a pair of headphones from 1998 that are a rebrand of a design from 1992
Sad!

>>60481382
link

>>60477535
Will fall out of your ear

Maybe this is the right place to ask /g/
Noise cancelling, does it work? Will it let me actually shut out the fucking noise my neighbours are making?
I'm just about ready to pay out the ass for it, I have closed headphones which are isolating noise nicely but not nearly perfectly and no air is getting through there so long-term wear in the summer gets harsh

>>60482558
> Will it let me actually shut out the fucking noise my neighbours are making?
No. Active noise cancelling headphones are only good at blocking drone noise like engine noise. Basically noise that is constantly repeated. It won't work against sudden burst like somebody shouting or glass breaking.
The best thing you can do is buy a pair of speakers and crank them loud to annoy them or buy headphones with a high clamping force and high noise isolation to block out as much noise as possible.

>>60482597

Well the noise is either some asstard playing the radio loud, or constant noise like lawn mowers and shit.
More noise is hardly a solution to my problem, and the second option is basically what I have/do now.

>>60482645
ANC will work with lawn mowers

>>60482683

Well thats something I guess, thanks.

My main headphone is an audio-technica m40x. In the summer it gets too sweaty for full earcups. What earbuds will give me similar audio quality?

>>60482716
You could go the relatively 'cheap' route and get HD 380 Pros. Noise isolation is very good for $100 headphones (-32dB)
>>60482746
Maybe Soundmagic E30's?

>>60482779
>(-32dB)
That figure would only be true for upper frequencies. Like any other passive headphone, it lets in significant amounts of lower frequency sound from the outside.

>>60482927
it's not true for upper frequencies either. he's a shill citing manufacturer specs.

>>60483399
I mean there's no real graphs for the 380 Pro to go off of, might as well parrot info.

As an actual producer and audio dude, hd650s are closer to source than 600s and easier to use. and even besides that, certain sounds and volumes are completely inaudible on the 600s

What kind of headphones should I get for gaming? Anything you'd recommend for $100 or less? I wish I could get a hold of Philips 9500s but apparently it's impossible to get them in Europe without paying nearly double the price

>>60481185
HD600 aka the world's best headphone.

HD650 aka the world's 2nd best headphone.

If HD600 didn't exist I'd go with the HD650, it shits on everything out there.

An interesting thing about the HD650 that I've observed is that after a few minutes of having them on your head, your ears get adjusted to the 'timbre' of the headphones, and while the HD650 is warmer than the HD600, to your brain it sounds the same afterwards. I ended up returning the HD650 because there was no point in owning both and the HD600 was a tiny bit superior.

>>60483715
Nigga you dumb as fuck

Open or closed back for gaming?

>>60483715
You and your brother drunk posting again?
>>60483399
That sort of isolation is a bit on the low side for upper mid and above.

>>60482115
>>60482296
Thanks, I guess I'll go after the zircons then.

>>60484221
>>60484580
No, I'm not that retard.

I've been in search of the perfect headphone all these years and it was in front of me all this time. Wasted lots of money trying expensive shit like LCD-2 and HD800 only to realize they don't sound as good as I thought they would.

>>60484654
Prove its the best. I'll wait.

>>60484675
Neutral frequency response.

gg

>>60484725
Not an argument.

>>60484401
Open for two reasons:
1) better sound
2) you can hear your own voice while speaking to teammates

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>>60484675
Name a better headphone. I'll wait.

>>60485058
Burden on proof is on you. Prove its better than every headphone.

>>60479855
I suppose he could buy them used.

I haven't found them to be exceptional but they are decent at their price points. I highly dislike the stock pads though.

>>60463087
Tried the Shangri-La, along with the HE-1 the same day.
I like the design but in person it does not look as good, the tubes don't glow and the volume pot feels cheap. The headphone feels cheap too, it's the HE-1000 frame.
Sound is good but not worth 50k.
The Susvara/Edition 6 was already more interesting.

>>60476958
I can't even put their circumaurals, they just dig into my ears. Yet they're not that big. I dislike on-ears so I didn't try.

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Just got my Philips SHP9500 in today that someone in here recommended to me the other day. I'm new to this whole headphones/caring more about audio thing, any recommendations/tweaks I should know about? I see in the 'Sound' properties I have a few options to mess with, such as Bass Boost, Headphone Virtualization, and Loudness Equalization. There's also a 'Spatial Sound' tab.
Could anyone give me the quick rundown on this shit/if I should mess with it? Or are these more just things I can mess with if I'm bored? I'm mainly curious about the Spatial Sound and if it's recommended I change that, my options are Windows Sonic and Dolby Atmos.

What's everyone's favorite planar headphones? I'd like to give them a try and see what they do versus the dynamic headphones I'm used to.

>>60485868
Disable ALL postprocessing.

Done.

>>60485868
Disregard sound effects.

If you want to EQ it, get Equalizer APO and google for SHP9500 APO settings that people suggest.

>>60485935
Alright, will do. Would you mind explaining why so I can better understand all of this stuff? I'm super new to this. Thanks.

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>>60485868
Those just poopy audio software enhancements that come with (usually realtek) onboard audio chipsets. Pretty much all of them end up ruining the soundstage and audio quality, so don't use them.

The SHP9500 has plenty of soundstage from what I hear. If you want more bass, you should get something else, since these headphones are notoriously bass-light (even more than the hd598).

>>60485998
Postprocessing will:
- Degrade your signal.
- Have a CPU cost.
- Add latency.

You're better off without.

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>>60485993
>google for SHP9500 APO settings that people suggest
the first result is a reddit thread that contains pic related. pretty fucking awful.

>>60486153
What's wrong with it? I know nothing about equalizer settings.

>>60486190
shp9500 have a smooth bass roll-off, so the compensating boost should be fairly smooth as well. it's also nowhere near as strong as it should be.
2 kHz is boosted for no good reason.
doesn't really deal with the 9 kHz spike.
etc.

i could make a better one in less time than it takes to explain everything that's wrong with it.

>>60486153
SHP guy here. Yeah I noticed the same thing too when I searched it. I know nothing about equalizer settings and went with my gut instinct on not trusting the reddit settings, good to know I made the right call.

>>60486054
Gotcha. CPU cost and latency make sense. I had no idea it'd degrade the signal as well. Good to know.

>>60486266
If you end up making one I'd like to check it out.

>>60486412
>Gotcha. CPU cost and latency make sense. I had no idea it'd degrade the signal as well. Good to know.
In the digital domain, all transformations to the audio data will degrade it. Sometimes it's desirable, but in the general case it is best to prevent unnecessary transformations .

A case where you'd get some benefit would be virtual surround in some scenarios. Such as playing a FPS game that supports 3d positioning but only with surround speakers, that is, if the game lacks its own virtual surround implementation.

Another classic case where it makes sense is ReplayGain.

>>60486412
>>60485868
Oh I also forgot to ask if it matters where I plug them in. so I have an old Logitech speaker system that has a volume knob with an aux jack, but I went ahead and assumed that would be a shit-tier idea. My monitor has an audio jack as well (HDMI to my GPU if that matters). I have a front jack on my PC as well as the jack on the mobo itself. I'm going to assume I want to connect as direct as possible. Does the front pc jack vs. the back jack matter at all?

Also, I know you all said to leave all those postprocessing shits off, but could someone tell me what the fuck the Spatial Sound shit actually is? This is the first time I've ever even seen that option available.

>>60486481
>so I have an old Logitech speaker system that has a volume knob with an aux jack, but I went ahead and assumed that would be a shit-tier idea.
Aux is usually code for "line out", which do have high output impedance and different voltage range than headphones expect. Your headphones have a relatively low impedance, so with high impedance output the "damping factor" (headphone impedance/output impedance) will be very low. Shit tier is accurate.

You'd ideally want a headphone jack from a source that has a headphone amplifier. Many motherboards do have it these days. It'd be listed in the manufacturer specs so do check that. If not, do still use a headphone jack. It's not ideal, but it'll sound way better than line outs.

A common solution recommended here is to get a cheap usb-based headphone dac+amp, like the Fulla 2. These will simply sound good and pretty much be unaffected by what computer you connect it to.

>>60486618
>usb-based headphone dac+amp, like the Fulla 2.
just get a single usb audio interface instead of several boxes that color sound
get something like focusrite 2i2 or ur22

>>60486412
>If you end up making one I'd like to check it out.
https://mega.nz/#!p8ITXaDR!xcodgaXdsZfqwPQAD-tmS5pgIk4xsuPY9vVkvhYrsTY
i doubt you'll be able to use it without an external amp

>>60486653
>several boxes that color sound
Keep in mind the fulla 2 is a single usb audio interface, and schiit hardware does always target transparency and do a very good job of it.
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up.701900/
Chapter 18: The Pinch-Off Problem
"we want to make fun, affordable products that are as true to the musical source as possible."

Template:

>Budget
500 Bulgarian lev (250 euro)
>Location
Bulgaria

some reference websites:
https://www.ozone.bg/audio-i-video/slushalki/?price=260-

http://www.emag.bg/audio-slushalki/sort-priceasc/c?gclid=CjwKEAjwr_rIBRDJzq-Z-LC_2HgSJADoL57HgbJnNdmpqubKrGK3lYKv4YiHjH3mVXl4PpUaHjx03hoCqLbw_wcB&ref_cmp=ps&emagi_click_id=e56c0007cfaf0ef3bf96f6bcf0983da1
>Source
Lenovo Y700 (Or my PC which is using Xonar Phoebus sound card + amp)
>Type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
As long as they don't leak sound I am fine with it, since I will use them mostly during my programming labs.
>Comfort level
Comfy as fuck
>Sound signature
warm, punchy bass without treble
>Past headphones
HD 598

>>60486618
>Aux is usually code for "line out"
So follow up to this: is there a difference between a "headphone jack" and just the green colored port on a mobo/pc? Does a green jack stand for line out generally? I ask because it has a headphone symbol underneath it, but I'm not sure if that just means "usually people plug headphones into this" or "this is an actual headphone jack" like you were talking about in your post.

As for my motherboard, I looked up specs as you suggested, here's what I found on ASROCK's (z97 Extreme4) website-
>Purity Sound™ 2 includes 7.1 CH HD audio with Realtek ALC1150 audio codec, 115dB SNR DAC with Differential Amplifier, TI® NE5532 Premium Headset Amplifier, cap less Direct Drive technology, EMI shielding cover, PCB isolate shielding and DTS Connect. As Nichicon audio capacitors are what every audiophile has been longing for on a PC, ASRock applied these high quality capacitors for Purity Sound™ 2.

I honestly barely understand what any of that means. Will it work just fine for a beginner such as myself, or would there be a noticeable increase in quality if I picked up that Fulla 2 device you mentioned?

Also thanks for your posts so far, they've been quite helpful.

>>60487072
>is there a difference between a "headphone jack" and just the green colored port on a mobo/pc?
Yes. Usually the "speaker out" (green) computer outputs are line outs.
These days, thanks to HDA and their jack rerouting magic, many ports can play different roles. It might be possible to have the green jack act as a headphone output.
>TI® NE5532 Premium Headset Amplifier
Seems like a headphone amp indeed. The difficulty here is which ports it can output to. In my board (crystal audio 2 or whatever), the green line out cannot, but the front panel headphone jack can.
When plugging something to a jack, some popup asks what kind of device it is. For headphones, there's a pic of full size vs earbuds. Full size seems to enable the amp. YMMV with your audio drivers. I believe it'll be the same, because mine is also realtek.

>>60487026
>>Sound signature
>warm, punchy bass without treble
>>Past headphones
>HD 598
Did you like HD598? If so go HD600.
If you MUST have some extra bass and darker (less treble) signature, then go with HD650. Just keep in mind the HD600 are better than HD650 after you get used to them. The whole bass thing is a lie, your brain will quickly get used to whatever sound you throw at it, and then the less colored headphone will always sound better, as coloration is distortion.

>>60487167
I love them, the problem is they leak too much sound and so will HD 600 I assume.

DAC X6 or Fulla2? Currently have 668B's and plan to upgrade to DT880's (250 or 600, not sure yet). Which speakers are better for a desk, (Mackie CR3/4 or LSR305's)? any better options for either DAC/AMP or Speakers would be great, thanks.

>>60487126
>the green line out cannot, but the front panel headphone jack can.
That's actually really interesting to me. One would assume it'd be the other way around.
>When plugging something to a jack, some popup asks what kind of device it is.
That's interesting, as I have not gotten that popup. When I go into my Playback devices, it does in fact have a large headset icon, as well as saying it's a "High Definition Audio Device", though I'd say that's pretty meaningless, as my shitty 10 year old speakers are also apparently a "High Definition Audio Device" as well.

>>60487194
Yes, the HD600 do leak a load of sound too.
This is only true at unhealthy high volume, however. And they do indeed sound better the lower the volume; It just takes a while to get used to them.
When I got mine, with Magni2, I used them at high gain past 12 o'clock. Now, after a few weeks, I'm at low gain below 12 o'clock and very happy.
If this is an issue (main use is room with other people), you should go with something closed, such as the HD380 Pro. Just keep in mind that closed headphones will sound significantly worse /price.

>>60487242
>That's actually really interesting to me. One would assume it'd be the other way around.
It will depend on the board. Mine is shitty like that. On the green jack, I still get the options, but they do sound the same (bad).

>>60487242
>as my shitty 10 year old speakers are also apparently a "High Definition Audio Device" as well.
HDA is the name of the soundcard standard most boards use these days. It supports some fancy shit like jack rerouting, but in exchange it's complex AF with very different implementations and a fucking mess to use (from a driver programmer perspective)
In the old days, it used to be ac97, which was way simpler but also less feature happy.

>>60481185
NightHawk or whatever will be the perfect fit for you but sadly they are 2 times the price and are mostly America distributed.

>>60487251
I really can't listen to low volume music. My friest told me AKG K267 are super good for my needs, however they are 50 EU over my budget.

>>60487388
HD600/650 is an excellent choice, particularly with your budget,

It involves the least compromises.

>>60487413
The not leaking sound is very important for me. Otherwise I would just use my HD 598

>>60487431
Just grab HD380 Pro, then.

Excellent isolation, reputable, comfortable, good sounding, quite neutral (although bit bassy).

>>60487490
>comfortable

As a bighead they're not so comfortable, and unlike the X2 or HD6X0 I can't stretch the band. Good isolation though.

>>60487296
>from a driver programmer perspective
I take it that's what you do for a living? Sounds interesting. Out of curiousity- what led you down the road to realizing you wanted to work with drivers? Is it just a day job you came across, or is that what you actively wanted to do?

>>60487547
Not my day job. I just had to mess with audio drivers before to fix issues I was experiencing.

>>60487546
I have a big head too and I can't stand open headphones so I guess that's a no no.

>>60487648
HD380 is closed, but yeah, I wouldn't suggest them to you, leave them to the brainlets.

I found the HD598Cs to be fairly comfortable. Sound quality isn't as nice as say the HD6X0, but it's closed, cheaper and the isolation has been fine.

>>60487648
*uncomfortable not open

>>60476980
bepsi phone?

>>60482645
Build a wall, annex his lawn