[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 334
Thread images: 10

File: messiah preaching.jpg (767KB, 3500x2334px) Image search: [Google]
messiah preaching.jpg
767KB, 3500x2334px
Previous thread: >>60425689

Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.

Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources.

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or macOS.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (try to use a search engine that respects your benis such as searx, ixquick or startpage).

$ man %command%
$ info %command%
$ help %command%
$ %command% -h
$ %command% --help

Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros):
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

>What are some cool terminal commands?
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

>Where can I learn more about Free Software?
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Videos: >>>/t/713097

/fglt/'s website and copypasta collection:
http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
>>
First for Android/Linux.
>>
first for MPV, youtube-dl and web browsers

Play YouTube videos (or audio) with 2 clicks?

>Video
cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpvv.desktop

Exec=mpv --ytdl-format="bestvideo[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]+bestaudio[abr>128]/bestvideo[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]+bestaudio/best[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]/best[height<=720]/best" --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui -- "$(sselp)"


>Audio only (with thumbnail)
cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpva.desktop

Exec=mpv --ytdl-format="bestaudio[abr>128]/bestaudio" --no-cache --no-sub-auto --no-stop-screensaver --script-opts=osc-visibility=always --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui --external-file="$(youtube-dl --get-thumbnail "$(sselp)")" --autofit-smaller=960x480 -- "$(sselp)"


>Download music?
cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpvd.desktop

Exec=st -g 100x20 -e youtube-dl -xf "bestaudio[abr>128]/bestaudio" -o '~/Music/%(title)s.%(ext)s' "$(sselp)"


Add to your panel(s)
>Copy Link Location
and click

>Icon=
- icons/breeze/actions/22/ im-youtube.svg kdenlive-show-video.svg
- icons/breeze/places/22/ folder-download.svg folder-music.svg

st.suckless.org
tools.suckless.org/x/sselp
>>
I fell for the solus meme.

>Budgie is super comfy
>All my software works perfect
>Pretty decent package manager
>One of the few distros trying to change shit up
>>
Now that grsec is kill how can Arch into security?
>>
>>60441987
>arch
>security
pick one
>>
>check to see if Debian 9 is out
>it isn't
I used to like Debian but I gotta say I'm an #Archer now
>>
>>60441987
install gentoo
>>
What's a good Distro for a toaster laptop (Intel GM 940) without systemd? No Gentoo because compiling programs on this would take a while.
>>
>>60442502
>without systemd
oh boy
>>
>>60442502
>>60425816
anything with something like openbox + tint2 really
>>
I've had this annoying problem with debian for a while now. Once I install the nvidia drivers, it seems it can't read my screens properly and shows them as 'unknown display' which can only go up to 1360x768 even though they're both Full HD screens.

I think this problem is that for some reason X can't read the EDID from my monitors. Trying to do read-edid always results in errors. A solution I found was to go into windows, get the edid and dump it, then load the into linux and for X to use the new edids. This fixed the issue, but I'm wondering if there's a better way?
>>
>>60442502
>No Gentoo
Void with a lightweight WM is the obvious choice.
>>
>>60442502
>without systemd
There are actually retards who believe the "systems a botnet" meme? Jesus christ.
>>
File: 1430032456529.jpg (85KB, 599x800px) Image search: [Google]
1430032456529.jpg
85KB, 599x800px
Solidworks, After Effects, and Premiere are all classed as "Garbage" by the Wine DB. Does anyone know if they can be made to run properly despite this? These are the only things that prevent me from being able to switch back to Linux.
>>
>>60442564
Stop trying to run nonfree garbage. Problem solved.
>>
this sounds like a dumb question but why does building a package with yaourt consume disk space (like more diskspace than the package)
>>
>>60442564
Idk. The surefire method, if you have enough RAM and an iGPU+dedicated is to run a VM with gnu/linux host, windows guest, and gpu passthrough.
>>
>>60442616
If you're spending all your time in a Windows VM, you might as well just run Windows and avoid the overhead, especially for demanding applications like that.
>>
>>60442606
>why does building a package with yaourt consume disk space

yaourt is building from source, it has to pull the source from github/svn/launchpad this takes up space in your /tmp/ directory by default.
>>
>>60442730
>just run Windows
Friendly thread.
>>
>>60442564
those require gpu accl so even if they worked with wine you'd most likely need non free drivers in the least
the only possile answer is qemu vm but it's tricky and not quaranteed, pleasant reading https://www.redhat.com/archives/vfio-users/
>>
>>60442769
>those require gpu accl so even if they worked with wine you'd most likely need non free drivers in the least
https://wiki.winehq.org/3D_Driver_Issues
>>
I run some CentOS servers but I figure i could bring some linux home and give arch a 10gb partition on my laptop alongside my main windows machine. I'm a humble minimal guy whos fine with just having a 100% terminal-based linux OS and using screen for "multi-tasking".
Wish me luck
>>
>>60442831
GNU/Linux*
>>
>>60442908
p-please wish me luck....
>>
What kind of MMO's can I play on Linux? I'm a MMO junkie currently playing FFXIV and it's really the only type of video game that I actually play.
>>
>>60442758
it's already a mistake to suggest even running it in a VM
>>
what is a good, extensible music player that can read metadata and sort records by artist and/or by record if various artists
>>
Why is he so autistic in interviews lol
https://youtu.be/jUibaPTXSHk?t=134
>>
>>60441732
This malicious code infected my Arch system!
>>
>>60443090
>she thinks normal people can be smart
>>
>>60443142
>she

Im a dude
>>
>>60443034
Clementine
>>
>>60443142
What did you even mean by this post
>>
My god why is that commie fuck still alive
>>
Who else /wayland/ here? I'm using Wayland with GNOME as my main DE now and everything works incredibly well. Even optirun/bumblebee works, and xwayland only has about a 5% performance cost. It seems like every gtk and qt program is running on wayland natively for me (because xprop doesn't see them). That said, there are quite a few programs not native on Wayland, namely a web browser and wine. Is Firefox going to get native Wayland soon? I also hope that wine eventually works without XWayland.
>>
File: tanenbaum.jpg (563KB, 1920x2523px) Image search: [Google]
tanenbaum.jpg
563KB, 1920x2523px
LINUX is obsolete.
>>
>>60441732
>youtuble-dl
>not using superior mpsyt
>>
>>60443420
Superior in what regard
>>
>>60443374
I used it for a while and I couldn't really get what I wanted, which was decent performance. I always complained about Gnome being kind of sluggish and people kept telling me "just wait for wayland". And sure I might not have so many issues with tearing now, but some animations still feel like shit.
>>
>>60442502
If you exclude Gentoo there's Void. Works perfectly.
>>
>>60443425
I've always had intense lag on some animations, especially pressing super to view overview. (I'm on Intel sky lake integrated graphics). After switching to Wayland, and removing xf86-video-intel, everything is much more fluid. I'm not sure which was responsible.
>>
Best Wayland terminal emulator? I don't need any special features, just easy enough to set font and colour scheme. To my knowledge gnome-terminal is the only native one..
>>
>>60442831
good luck
>>
>>60442831
I wish ill will upon you
>>
>>60441711
friendly reminder to fix your fonts if you're using new freetype
https://github.com/bohoomil/fontconfig-ultimate/issues/191#issuecomment-289799221
>>
>>60443574
Arch,

What are you talking about.
>>
If I use GNU/Linux am I required to eat a piece of my foot
>>
>>60443719
only if you speak infront of people

>>60443634
..?
>>
how much space do I need for linux?
>>
Any pdf readers which support the same or similar formats as SumatraPDF?
Specifically EPUB, PDF and DJVU.
>>
>>60443819
As of version 4.11.1 you need at least 91.1 MB of free space :-)
>>
Have a notebook i7 gen 2, want to get rid of the OS and all my files permanently and install a Linux, any tips besides the description?
>>
>>60443853
I would recommend you install the Xubuntu GNU/Linux distribution
>>
How does literally everyone on this board run a system with less than a thousand packages? No matter which distribution I'm using (Void, Arch, Debian Netinstall, Ubuntu Minimal) I always get to two thousand slowly after reinstall just by installing all the software I absolutely need.

Does the board literally just stare at their screenfetch all day?
>>
>>60443831
mupdf
>>
>>60443879
>Does the board literally just stare at their screenfetch all day?
Yes
>>
What's your preferred toejam seasoning? I'm taking suggestions.
>>
So, I'm having a little issue with herbslutwm.. how do you do transparency with the borders? I mean, transparent gaps like on i3. If I set an hex with transparency it just goes black. Is there a setting to disable borders and use gaps?

>>60443879
>Does the board literally just stare at their neofetch all day?
FTFY, but yes.
>>
>>60443877
>Xubuntu GNU/Linux distribution
Should I format my hdd more than once so nobody can retrieve any of the files afterwards?
>>
>>60443961
No, formating won't make the files any less recoverable. What you can do however is fully encrypt the disk using the Xubuntu installer. There is a built in option to do so.
>>
>>60443819
depeds. if you do something like >>60425816 about a gig. if you choose the regular isos about 5 gigs maybe?

>>60443831
djview
>>
>>60443894
>No wayland support in 2017
Oh shit. I was best reader for X11.org
>>
>>60443985
Hello Dmitry, how are you doing today? :-)
>>
File: wayland-screenshot.png (510KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
wayland-screenshot.png
510KB, 1920x1080px
>>60443853
Instal Gentoo, becouse it's fast and I wrote gentoofetch for it.
>>
>>60443979
I've been bamboozled by ccleaner then.
>>
>>60444009
Well I think what CCleaner is doing is overwriting free space a certain number of times to thwart data recovery. I think this is different from simply formatting.
>>
>>60444007
Is gentoofetch free
>>
>>60444006
Just fine!
How are you?
Could you test my script?
https://github.com/DmitryHetman/gentoofetch
>>
>>60444039
Yes, it's distributed under GPLv3 license.
>>
>>60444024
I have books that are forbidden in my country at the hdd, I'll be traveling soon and will need to leave it at maintenance because of a battery feed problem.
Reason I asked.
>>
>>60444059
OK, I see. You want to secure the data on your HDD? That can be done easily, and should be done!
>>
>>60444079
Much obliged.
>>
>>60444044
I'm doing well. Sorry no I cannot, I am not running Gentoo on my machine.
>>
>>60444059
>forbidden books
Tell me more, what country/what books? That sounds pretty authoritarian and creepy.
>>
>>60444059
Setting up an encrypted filesystem and filling it will overwrite the HDD with gibberish and thwart any attempt to retrieve old data, but there's a faster way to achieve that that you can do right now.

Shred can overwrite files with random data or zeroes before deleting, thus making them unrecoverable.

Boot from some liveCD/USB, install shred if not already installed. Run and read
man shred
, then run shred on your files to be deleted. There are probably similar programs for your current OS, but keeping you out of jail is one of many things you shouldn't trust proprietary software with.

If, say, you decided that you want to keep those books in a newly-made encrypted volume (if your country can't legally force you to decrypt your data, or you can provide plausible deniability), you'll still need to copy them somewhere else while you format and encrypt your HDD; run shred on those temporary copies then.
>>
>>60443879
I'm simply not hoarding packages I might want to use at some point or might come in handy some day. Cleaning up old stuff I used about once or twice ages ago but do not now helps too.

At some point I started to notice that many people, mostly normies, treat their systems like their personal spaces. If they're hoarding and have tendencies of being messies in real life, they do the same shit with their systems too. Their desktop looks exactly like the top of their desk.
>>
>>60443923
Okay, fixed.
hc set window_gap 10


Damn though, trying to learn how to use tiling properly and it's kind of different from i3.
>>
>>60444138
Run it on your distro, most functions will work!
>>
And then there is this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6bf78x/i_named_my_daughter_linux/
>>
xfs, ext4 or btrfs? I don't really care about btrfs features. I just want performance+stability on a single drive, no RAID.
>>
>>60444229
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>
>>60444248
I started using xfs because I grew tired of ext3/4's periodic fscks which took ages. On one occasion I accidentally powered off the system while it was asking for the encryption password at boot, and had to boot from USB and fsck it - I've had no other problems.

I can't tell you about performance, though. I don't even use fancy HDDs.
>>
>unity announced to be dead
>days later
>how can I make my de look like unity?
>unity is the best de
>unity!!!
the heck is going on with people
>>
>>60444383
well, turns out while being shit it didn't look that shit and had one or two usability features that weren't shit either.
>>
>>60444383
hipstery
>>
Is it possible to link multiple directories to one disk?
For example I have two ssd-s
I want /home to be ssd1
But /home/foo and /home/bar to be ssd2
But without making some ./foobar directory to mount ssd2 on
>>
stop using steam
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/im-longer-buying-games-steam-opinion/
>>
>>60444408
Linking /home/foo to /home/ perhaps?
>>
>>60444408
man ln?
>>
>>60444408
You can just mount the 2'nd ssd to /home/foo and /home/bar i think.

If not, you could try linking the /home/foo&bar directories to the mount point of the 2'nd ssd (make directiories in it corresponding the foo & bar names ofc)
>>
>>60444442
No.
>>
>>60444442
kek, literally slavery
>>
>>60444383
There are two kinds of people on 4chan.

When anything is introduced, half of people will like something and half will dislike. At this stage, you can't tell the smarts from the dumbs.

There are 2 kinds of dumbs. Dumbs that go with the flow mindlessly, and dumbs that go against the flow, mindlessly (also known as hipsters.

When something's popularity changes, dumbs will flip their opinion and smarts will stay with their original opinion. You can derive the smart to dumb ratio from the discrepancy between flips to stays. 4chan's smart to dumb ratio is poor.
>>
Is there a way to manually log messages to the system log?
>>
>>60444588
man logger
>>
>>60444588
Use 'logger'.
>>
>>60444588
try logger
>>
>>60444588
logger
>>
>>60444588
logger
>>
>>60444588
I use logger
>>
>>60444588
Just use "logger".
>>
>>60444588
Perhaps logger?
>>
>>60444588
man logger
>>
>>60444588
Ok, just to provide an alternative:

1- Write shitty C code, build it.
2- Encode message in binary's filename, run.
3- Your message is now in /var/log/kern.log!
>>
>>60444742
>3d
>>
>>60444742
>hole in meat
Fuck off.
>>
@dmitry
>namefagging
>>
>>60444786
>Ubuntu
>Implying that Ubuntu is GNU/Linux.
>>
Noob here. Is GNU/Linux safe from ransomware and other nasty shit that plagues winblows? How do I further secure my system? Do I just leave it as is and use common sense online? Currently I'm running Solus for general purposes.
>>
>>60444845
>Is GNU/Linux safe from ransomware
no
>Do I just leave it as is
no
and use common sense online?
yes
>How do I further secure my system?
ufw, firejail, dont run stupid software like flash or other nonfree crap
more: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/security
>>
should I install mint or ubuntu if im a new boy?
>>
>>60444845
>Is GNU/Linux safe from ransomware and other nasty shit that plagues winblows?
No. Some idiot a few months ago got a ransomware on gentoo by running firefox as root with flash.

>How do I further secure my system?
Do not run things as root. Use firejail for the web browser, perhaps whitelisting the downloads path and whatever else you need. Do not run random binaries, if you use arch and AUR, check the PKGBUILD and the install script. For the rest, common sense. There are many hardening ways but sandboxing, not using root and having some common sense will do.
>>
>>60444845
Can I use solus as live cd?
GNU/Linux is safe from ransomware, if you want extreme security, protection from targeted attacks use Gentoo GNU/Linux Hardened + Selinux + Firewall (iptables and others)_+ Set up your own DNS server for privacy, use TOR.
>>
>>60444884
mint looks good and is low quality under the hood
ubuntu looks shit and is high quality under the hood
>>
>>60444884
ubuntu
dont use mint ever anon
>>
>>60444884
No. Some ubuntu flavor will do, such as xubuntu.
>>
>>60444884
install ubunut
>>
>>60444845
gentoo has sandbox, you can run browser from sandbox easy as:
sandbox firefox
>>
>>60444884
Just use Ubuntu.
>>
>>60444884
You must install https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
Debian testing
>>
>>60444932
he's new
>>
Is nowadays KDE lighter on memory and CPU usage than XFCE?
According to dedoimedo's reviews of Kubuntu and Xubuntu 17.04 it seems that the former uses less system resources than the latter.
Are system monitor tools a reliable source for such comparisons?
>>
>>60444187
My desktop is neat, both on the system and in real life. However, I still have like two thousand necessary packages I use on a regular basis. If I have something I do not use, I purge it and its dependencies.

I just can't fathom how people manage their daily tasks with 500 packages. It's like the whole board uses Windows but changes to GNU/Linux just to screenfetch.

>>60443923
If I tell a friend to edit a text file I just say "open it with notepad" and if he needs to edit an image I just say "open it with paint". Screenfetch was there first even though Neofetch is superior.
>>
>>60444936
Debian has GUI installer, as easy as in Ubuntu.
Do not forget to install browser
apt install chromium / firefox.
>>
>>60444965
he'll propably fail when it comes to installing wifi drivers
>>
>>60444953
KDE may be pretty lightweight, if it runs in wayland environment.
>>
File: file.png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
file.png
3MB, 1920x1080px
>>
>>60444981
He probably don't even need it.
But if he wants to install very easy, Install Fedora - much better than ubuntu.
>>
>>60444999
>fedora
>>>/out/
>>
>>60445026
In any case it much better than Ubuntu and already switched to Gnome Wayland.
>>
File: wayland-screenshot.png (279KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
wayland-screenshot.png
279KB, 1920x1080px
Updated uptime in my script.
>>
According to https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/4512681, Wine has a major sound latency regression on versions newer than 1.8.3. Did that ever get fixed?
>>
>>60444845
> Is GNU/Linux safe from ransomware
Not if you do things like run programs in root and use plugins such as flash and java. There's a lot less malware designed FOR the gnu system overall because most malware programmers want money, and Windows is a much easier and much more profitable feeding ground

>How do I further secure my system?
Don't be stupid, mainly. Similar to Mac.

>Do I just leave it as is and use common sense online?

You could, but that doesn't mean Linux security software doesn't exist. Still, I run Linux without excessive protections.
>>
For some reason, in my terminal, I cannot delete to the right with the delete key, it always writes ~ instead of deleting. Backspace works, but I don't know why delete won't work.

What should I do?
>>
>>60445547
1. Use Dash instead of Bash.
2. Update bash
3. Try st terminal
>>
>>60445547
ctrl+D
>>
>>60445574
Ctrl+D closes the terminal.

>>60445561
I think my OS is up to date with this. I guess I'll look into dash, because this is happening on both Terminator and XFCE's terminal emulator. Even XTerm.
>>
>>60445574
>>60445590
Oh shit actually, Ctrl+Shift+D, if that's what you mean, it works!

But I'm not sure how to link that to the delete key. I need to learn how to config .bashrc
>>
>>60445590
>Ctrl+D
yes but only if no text
if text = delete

>+shift
that must be a shortcut of your virtual terminal
>>
>>60445547
What keyboard layout? Did you set it properly? What shell? Probably a keybinding issue
>>
>>60441711
Currently using Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.1, I followed the advice of this site [http://www.binarytides.com/optimize-fonts-linux-mint/] to fix the font for both the desktop and Chrome but it looks awful for my eyes.

What's the comfiest font, perhaps closer to what I am used for Windows 10.
>>
>>60445561
st is pretty cool, it's much smaller and lighter than urxvt. I finally got it compiled because I was missing a package for a command the makefile wanted and I didn't even notice it last night because I was burned out.
>>
>>60445547
You should just use vi mode anyway. It'll change the way you use the terminal forever, and you wont need the delete or the backspace key.
>>
i installed Debian test and get a bunch of acpi errors whenever I start it up. it launches fine though should I be worried?
>>
>2017
>BtrFS still sucks
>ZFS works just fine
>2017
>>60445839
There is st-wayland version, it's even smaller.
>>
>>60445935
It depends on what those errors were
Type dmesg from root, and look at it and try to fix it it's important.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iTm7UD1RUw
>>
Rusty arch veteran, been using Windows 10 for a year. My memory is not the best and I know the sticky says not to use /g/ as personal tech support, but some help and a refresher would be appreciated. Currently running Antergos with Gnome in the meantime while I try to get i3 set up. Any (you)s would be appreciated.
>>
>>60446169
Get the name off. Whatcha need?
>>
>>60446335
I am a lazy 18 yo with horrid linux habits trying to rice arch. Just want any advice anyone has to give.
>>
>>60445916
What do you mean?

>>60445654
>>60445637
I couldn't post for some reason for a while, but I tried a lot of stuff but none of it worked.

The weird part was, I use
gksu terminator
to run my root commands since my user does not have sudoers, and in that terminal, the delete button actually deletes to the right, but I cannot do it in my user's terminal.

I got fish, and it's pretty nice, it allows me to delete to the right, but now I have to figure out a way to use it as my main. I put it in .bashrc, resulting me to using fish inside of terminator, but when I exit, I go back to terminator. I'll try and find a way around it.
>>
>>60446442
There's a ricing page on the /g/ wiki, but it's not very good. r/UnixPorn wiki has decent info.
>>
>>60446442
Well then. The i3 config file is pretty simple, there's all the stuff in the documentation page on their site and a lot of configs online to get inspiration. Compton for transparency and.. uuh, dunno, if you need something ask and someone will help. Might as well use arch directly, though..
>>
>>60446519
>I'll try and find a way around it.
Never mind, terminator had an option to run a command instead of the console itself. fish x terminator is pretty good.
>>
>>60446538
thanks, already doing all this, will install compton
>>60446535
just opened up reddit
>>
What directory does st copy it's config and source file to?
>>
>>60446519
Re vi mode, it's a shell setting that changes the way the input is treated, so that it behaves more like the classic linux text editor vi (and thus vim). If you're not familiar with them you'd just be lost, but it's a lot better once you're used to it.
>>
stallman is coming in a week to my city what should i ask him?
>>
What are the major differences between Fedora and Debian? I've only used Debian before, but I'm planning to install a distro on my main machine and wanted to give Fedora a try. Is it as bare bones as Debian? Does it have a large library of supported software?
>>
>>60446603
I do use vim daily, but how will vi act as a terminal emulator?

Note that I can use the delete key to delete to the right in vim, but it wasn't working in the command-line.
>>
>>60446623
there's no point in using breakage: the distro
>>
>>60446670
why do you call it that
>>
>>60446631
You're not using it as a terminal emulator—like I said, it's a shell setting. I don't use bash, so I'm not 100% sure it will be as good as the version I'm using on zsh, but a cursory google indicates that if you put "set -o vi" in your bashrc you'll be able to find out. Editing the line you're typing into any terminal emulator should now be just like editing a line you're typing in vim.
>>
>>60446695
Interesting, I didn't know about zsh. Though the ~s are being written in zsh as well instead of deleting to the right. But I'll check that set -o vi out in the future, cause I have no idea how to use zsh completely, although it is similar to the one I'm using. But that would be really cool editing a command line like you do in vi
>>
How legit is this >>60429114
I thought GNU/Linux was safe.
>>
>>60446968
As far as I can guess is that you have to intentionally run it under wine for it to work. But I doubt there is any spread.
>>
>>60447047
>intentionally run it under wine for it to work
So it will encrypt everything? or only the wineprefix?
And how did wcry started in the first place?
>>
>>60447080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TErrIvyj_lU

Seems like it encrypts stuff everywhere.
>>
>>60447122
What do you do to protect yourself from that?
>delete wine
Wine is need to run some windows only programs
>VM/dual boot
Not viable options
>>
>>60447222
But the only windows programs I run are eroge
>>
>>60447240
What if some one decided to "embed" malware into it?
>>
I learned a lot by installing archlinux several times.

Will installing / setting up slackware on an old (2007ish) computer teach me a lot as well? or is gentoo the next logical step?
>>
Why, why, why does the public sector still use fucking Windows (and old, unpatched versions, at that) when they could use free and open source software at no or virtually no cost, where found vulnerabilities are published and patched out quickly?
>>
>>60447222
contrary to popular belief im willing wot bet a vm is not that safe proof
>>
>>60447274
Lawyers
>>
>>60447222
>Wine is need to run some windows only programs
Don't use those programs, then. Use free software alternatives.
>Not viable options
Why not? Too dumb or lazy to set it up?
>>
>>60447291
What do lawyers have to do with this?
>>
>>60447258
You check if it actually works or no in a VM first I guess, and also check if it has positive feedback.

I have never seen any malware in anime media to be honest for some reason.
>>
>>60447310
Well I guess think of it this way, the average normie will probably argue that if it's open source software and "free" then the OS they have bought should also be free.

I'm thinking something like that, but I don't know. Maybe some people might feel a little less safe having the source code of the OS they use out in the open? Some people work differently. Or have no idea about it.

Therefore, companies take advantage of it and make money.
>>
>>60447293
>Use free software alternatives
There are none.
>VM
Uses too much resources.
>dual booting
Then I'd have two compromised systems
>>60447314
Lostboy.exe
>>
>>60447332
>>60447310
Oh forgot to also include that a lot of the times, these companies offer something unique ontop of the open source, but they make it proprietary because they want to protect the method they provide that extra bundle of performance or whatever it is they offer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP9pgUBJRPY

Around the final parts of this video, they talk about that, I can't remember where it was exactly, but I think this is what business people look for when selling.
>>
>>60447341
>Lostboy.exe
Wasn't that video games related though? I don't know all the details, or I'm thinking about something else.
>>
Is there any gnu+linux related anime I should watch?
>>
>>60447332
But we're not talking about Chad McChadson setting up his sick Alienware gaming laptop, we're talking about the public sector, where alleged IT """professionals""" are hired to set up computer systems that manage the workings of a society, and upon which lives hinge -- sometimes literally. You'd think they'd hire people who are smart enough to understand why obfuscating vulnerabilities won't work and the only sustainable answer is FOSS.
You still haven't explained how lawyers fit into this.

>>60447341
>There are none.
Please list all of the software that you cannot replace with GNU/Linux tools and state why you cannot function without it.
>Uses too much resources.
Get a better computer.
>Then I'd have two compromised systems
You'd have zero compromised systems. Kill Windows' internet connection, use GNU/Linux for all internet access. A small NTFS "share" partition can be used to exchange files between the OSes.
>>
>>60447383
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4FlL1FCbvA
>>
>>60447383
Nips can't into Linux; computers are wizardry. Kobayashi-san had some real python in it though. Would post screenshot but keep getting 'upload failed'.
>>
>>60447415
>Please list all of the software that you cannot replace with GNU/Linux tools and state why you cannot function without it.
Certain hardware require it's own software, like waterjet cutter, Fingerprints access.
>Get a better computer
Limited resources.
>Kill Windows' internet
That's idiotic.
>GNU/Linux for all internet access
Doesn't solve the issue of how to fortify GNU/Linux against WCry.
>A small NTFS "share" partition can be used to exchange files between the OSes
That's horrible idea, NTFS have terrible support on linux AND windows.
>>
What is the best linux to run from a small usb for the sake of internet browsing?

Puppylinux sounds nice, but its so old now and looks pretty bad

also is it possible to run a persistent linux distro from a smartphone in usb storage mode?
>>
>>60441732
thx dude
>>
>>60447549
4.11
>>
>>60446610
Why he is such a hypocrite and changes his morals and value relating to proprietary software/hardware when it is more convenient
Such as riding on a car/bus/plane with proprietary software/hardware.Or using proprietary software on audio equipment when he uses a microphone.
>>
>>60447557
what
>>
>>60447543
>>Kill Windows' internet
>That's idiotic.
Why? No internet connection, no infection vector.
>>GNU/Linux for all internet access
>Doesn't solve the issue of how to fortify GNU/Linux against WCry.
Sure it does. The exploit doesn't work in GNU/Linux unless you're using Windows tools like Wine in it. Download shit on your GNU system, put in the shared partition. Boot Windows, retrieve files. Done. Doesn't necessarily have to be NTFS, any file system that works in both OSes is fine.
>>
>>60447578
Linux is a kernel, 4.11 is one of its versions. What you're looking for is a complete operating system comprised of the GNU userland and tools plus the Linux kernel, or GNU/Linux.
>>
>>60446610
Tell him you feel inspired by his endeavours, wish him the best and thank him for his work.
>>
>>60447549
Puppy

>its so old now
???
>>
>>60447605
Why hasn't he killed himself yet
>>
>>60446610
Beg him for money and laugh a lot.
>>
tmux is pretty comfy, I don't think I'll ever need more than one terminal program open at once ever again.
>>
>>60447627
Because there aren't any JUST GIMPs of him.
(GIMPs = GNU image manipulations, as a substitute for "shops" or "photoshops" so as not to promote the use of Crapple's proprietary malware)
>>
>>60446610
Hug him and tell him he's cuuuute!
>>
>>60447593
t-thanks

>>60447618
latest release was like 3 years ago
>>
Found something interesting:
My xfce was more drunk than me, no right click, and wallpapers were gone leaving a big white square.
If you have this problem, and if reinstalling xfdesktop4 doesn't work:
> rm -R ~/.cache/sessions/*
> xfdesktop
> reboot
Problem solved. I've seen that it was an official bug from 2013, but apparently it stills exist.
>>
>>60447681
>reboot
This isnt windows you dont need to do this
Log out of your current xession and then log back in
>>
How do I make ubuntu-mate look either like xubuntu or like mint-mate?
>>
>>60447549
Slax, it have KDE.
>it possible to run a persistent linux distro from a smartphone in usb storage mode?
Yes, but I think most phones dropped mass storage device and switched to MTP.
>>
>>60447681
You only need to reboot if you're doing a kernel update.
>>
>>60447581
>Why? No internet connection, no infection vector.
That's the same as "if you don't have a computer, you won't get wannacry"
>>
I'm getting bored with i3, what are some lesser known and interestng tiling wms I could try?
>>
>>60447581
>Download shit on your GNU system, put in the shared partition. Boot Windows, retrieve files. Done. Doesn't necessarily have to be NTFS, any file system that works in both OSes is fine.
You don't understand how wanna cry works.
>>
>>60447746
I love window maker. I always hated how stacking windows managers would force window sizes when I rather do it myself.
>>
>>60447122
Does firejail even help?
Or write filter like deep freeze?
>>
>>60447778
Fuck me, I meant to say I hated how tiling windows managers would force windows sizes.
>>
>>60447709
Yep, but I just wanted to be sure.
>>60447740
Oh...ok I tought it was also for D.E. stuff and all
>mfw
>>
>>60447778
Thanks, will look into it.
>>
>>60447415
Oh oops I got your question wrong.

There are people who study Windows to run Windows servers.

In my security club. we have sections for Networking, Linux and Windows.
>>
>>60447746
wmutils is pretty cool. You can script your very own WM with it.
>>
>>60444892
>firejail
will running as onother user do the trick?
>>
>>60447778
bspwm
>>
>>60447745
Except you can still do all of your computing without an internet connection, but not without a computer.

>>60447763
The infection vector is something known as EternalBlue, which "exploits a vulnerability in Microsoft's implementation of the Server Message Block (SMB) protocol", according to Wikipedia. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that implementation of that protocol is absent in GNU/Linux, meaning the GNU/Linux system can't be compromised on its own via this exploit.
Now maybe if you downloaded the malware onto your system, put it in the share, booted Windows and then manually executed it I guess you could infect the system. That would require a tremendous lack of common sense.
>>
Ok, so I am thinking of going dual boot, with some Linux as main OS for office, internet etc. and Windows for gaming (and if there ever comes the need for some windows specific program).
Now I don't know what I should choose out of the over 9000 distros out there.
Basically, I am not a computer guy and definitely have no time for fiddling around too much, I just want something that werks, but it should be light. So far I have used several *buntus in the past, but they all were kinda too "fluffy" for my taste.
I once tried a minimal Debian, but installing all the packages and configuring them is just not viable for the little time I have.
Then I considered Mint, but apparently it's rather insecure. The lists also don't really help in this case.

Can you recommend me anything that might fit?
>>
>>60447839
>Except you can still do all of your computing without an internet connection
No, not really.
>>
>>60447905
I really, really hope you're not implying you use SaaSS.
>>
>>60447902
install gentoo.
>>
>>60447902
Just do debian, but don't go for the minimalist install an LXDE or XFCE install should be enough.
>>
>>60447839
>The infection vector is something known as EternalBlue, which "exploits a vulnerability in Microsoft's implementation of the Server Message Block (SMB) protocol", according to Wikipedia. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that implementation of that protocol is absent in GNU/Linux, meaning the GNU/Linux system can't be compromised on its own via this exploit.
That's explain the transmission.
the malware encrypt everything, and it works well with wine because it's based on teracrypt.
Even if you dual boot your storage media is still at risk.
>tremendous lack of common sense
Nope, you simply can be a victim for MitMA, or download something from what you think it's safe like what happened with fosshub.
>>
>>60447923
Not him but say I want to send an email.
Don't I need internet connection?
>>
>>60447989
Send it from GNU/Linux.
>>
>>60447989
Sending email is not computing.
>>
I need to install Win7 to a machine to use some program that doesn't work in Wine, how do I write a Win7 ISO to a 8gb USB?

I tried Unetbootin and it didn't work. Do I need to format the drive to fat32?
>>
>>60448080
fucking this. wy wintards are so stuborn?
>>
>>60448118
dd
>>
>>60448080
That's why you're unemployed.
I'm using GNU/Linux to do 95% of stuff.
The other 5% I need windows software to do it.
Yet those 5% is compromising my GNU/Linux system.
How do you deal with that?
>>
>>60448118
do not format a drive into a filesystem before writing a disk image to it. the image will overwrite everything on the drive. just use DD and copy the file over. an example may be:
dd if=disk_image.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync
>>
>>60448162
I do 100% of all my stuff in GNU/Linux. I am employed full-time and I make twice as much money as I need for a comfortable lifestyle. Somehow, I get by.
>>
>>60448162
May already have been mentioned but does the other 5% need internet connectivity? If not, are you able to disconnect the windows box and use the software offline?
>>
>>60448136
>>60448186
k thnx
>>
>>60448136
>>60448186
Btw, does exactly the same apply if I want to write an Ubuntu or Fedora ISO to a USB? This would save me having to fuck around with that stupid mkusb program
>>
>>60448162
Wine or damn dualbot why its so hard 4 u?
>>
>>60448253
yes. for putting disk images onto a drive, use the same commands.
>>
apparmor or selinux?
>>
>>60448304
apparmor
systemd is enough of the nsa
>>
>>60448277
The whole idea is to stop wcry, wine leaves his Linux system exposed
>>
>>60448357
GNU/Linux*
>>
>>60448329
kek
>>
>>60448189
>being sysadmin
>>
>>60448329
How do i prevent audit from spamming my syslog/journal with 5 million lines of text every second? I just want to know important shit.
I cant even log on to tty1 without being spammed with logs
>>
What do you think about elementary OS?
>>
>>60448732
just use ubuntu
>>
>>60448756
what's wrong with elementary?
>>
>>60448773
its not ubuntu
>>
>>60448856
ubuntu is so bloated
>>
>>60448888
nice digits
why dont you just remove the packages you don't want??
>>
File: 3[1].png (8KB, 112x112px) Image search: [Google]
3[1].png
8KB, 112x112px
what do y'all think of ubuntu budgie? got a new ssd and might install that on it

>>60441768
why solus over budgie?
>>
I don't know if my question belongs to /sqt/, but I'll ask it anyway:
is it possible to bind a command like 'mycommand' to execute a shell script file?
>>
>>60448547
Software dev but close.
>>
>>60448938
Most distros have the ~/bin directory in the execute path (run
 echo $PATH
to make sure, so just create a ~/bin directory and place your shell script there. The script should now be available from the cli.
>>
>>60448938
yes.
make the script, then run
ln -s /path/to/script.sh /usr/bin/scriptname

or /usr/sbin for needing root
>>
>>60448938
Yes. You rename the script to "mycommand" and add its parent folder to the PATH.
Or put
alias mycommand='bash /path/to/script'
in your .bashrc
Or define your script in the .bashrc like so:
mycommand() {
# script here
}
>>
>>60449016
>/usr/sbin
>/usr/bin
Please don't do this. Learn about the filesystem:
man hier
>>
>>60449053
       /usr/bin
This is the primary directory for executable programs. Most programs executed by
normal users which are not needed for booting or for repairing the system and
which are not installed locally should be placed in this directory.


So why exactly shouldn't one put scripts there...?
>>
>>60449130
It's the place for system binaries. For local (your) binaries use /usr/local/bin, for your shell scripts, the best practice is using ~/bin.
>>
>>60449160
Nowhere does it say that it's for system binaries only.
In any case I use /usr/local/bin/ anyway
>>
What is a good live distro that I can fit on a 119MB USB?
>>
anyone else on arch?
>>
File: 1479674796441.jpg (27KB, 200x200px) Image search: [Google]
1479674796441.jpg
27KB, 200x200px
>>60449485
i use arch btw, in case that matters.
>>
How do I make a live usb stick?
Just copy the iso onto it?
>>
>>60449536
use dd to write the iso image over. replace /dev/sdX with your own device name, such as /dev/sdb
dd if=/path/to/iso/image.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M && sync

however, if its for a usb drive, the iso image may not work. if they provide a .img, use that instead.
>>
>>60449536
No install arch on it.
>>
>>60449536
whatever you do, dont install arch
>>
>>60449603
I'm going with debian.
>>
Put the handcuffs on me please!
>>
>>60449618
What did you do? Did you share with your neighbour?
>>
>>60449632
I bought an Apple product
>>
How complicated is Arch for an ignorant on the matter that wants to start learning to code and wizardry in general?
>>
>>60449651
copy paste 10 commands and you're in
>>
>>60449536
Read this article.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media
>>
>>60449651
if you can read you can use arch. literally just follow the guide. but please don't become an arch user.
>>
>>60449666
>>60449672
Which one is the better for beginners that want to learn and operate, mostly be able to browse and learn through documents and media in general while performing activities to improve?
I`m not gonna lie, I`m a farmer, it`s basically for personal use and security, also possible source of income.
>>
>>60449672
Not all Arch users are retards. There are exceptions.
>>
>>60449672
Why Arch is a great distribution for those that want bleeding edge software.

>>60449651
The installation guide is pretty straight forward but can be a bit confusing if you are completely gnu. Contrary to popular belief, you probably cannot get away with simply copy and pasting commands, as they may very from machine to machine. Also, setting up a working desktop environment will require additional reading not included in the installation guide wiki article.
>>
>>60449718
arch is no better than any other distro for 'learning' and searching documents. install ubuntu, strip the graphical interface down and remove the gui tools that you don't need, and use it from mostly terminal.

>>60449772
if the version you want isnt in the repos, just download & compile it yourself?
>>
>>60449669
Thank you
>>
I thought arch is /ourdistro/
>>
>>60449838
who said this?
>>
>>60449797
>just download & compile it yourself?
Yes you can do that, or assuming it is in the AUR (Arch User Repository) you can easily install from there using AUR front ends, such as pacaur or yaourt
>>
>>60449838
You're confusing /g/ with reddit. /g/ always has been /g/entoomen.
>>
>>60449767
Every distribution has a user base of "retards", Arch is no exception.
>>
>>60449863
what's wrong with reddit?
>>
>>60449669
Will I be able to turn the pendrive back into a normal storage device later?
>>
>>60449903
Yes of course. Using the dd command however may require a few extra steps.
>>
>>60449797
Uhh why would I bother to compile it myself?
Arch is a friendly distro actually, but people make it sounds like it's hard.
>>
>>60449935
i said why. if the version you want isn't in the repos, it's not hard to compile it. you get the bonuses like tweaking it to your own system & having it be more secure, unlike binary distributions.
>>
>>60449935
it's not hard, it's just stupid and everything "good" about arch is a meme

it's not minimal
it's not lightweight
it's not user-friendly (you can NOT build your very own system like you can do on gentoo, example: systemd)
it doesn't have "everything you need", instead users have to use the aur in order to install stuff from literally who sources
it's autisic with being bleeding edge: it ignores standarts like linking python to python3 and upgrading can break your system and needs manual interaction in order to fix
>>
I haven't been here since the systemd shitposting a couple of months ago, did anything interesting happen while I was gone?
>>
I'm sad that Arch is deprecating the abs, I was really fond of it. I'm scared that when I try to build pulled with asp there will be issues--guess i'll find out soon enough.
>>
>>60450053
bla bla bla
>>
>>60450079
>Arch is deprecating the abs
what, really?
>>
>>60450053
I like arch because of the AUR, and the ability to set up the the system the way I like.
>>
>>60450127
aur is useless, and you can set up the system however you want in any distro. install minimal ubuntu, install graphical interface and all packages you want manually.
>>
Why Linux over Windows ?
>>
>>60450079
I don't get this at all.
They already have the PKGBUILD's for all the packages, why is it hard to maintain the abs?
>>
>>60450117
https://www.archlinux.org/news/deprecation-of-abs/
>>
>>60450149
GNU/Linux*
>>
>>60450143
>aur is useless
Oh, I beg to differ. I have many uses for it.
>>
>>60450117
yeah :-/ https://www.archlinux.org/news/deprecation-of-abs/

>>60450143
wat?

>>60450154
they cite costs and stuff in the forum post i'm not sure what other issues there were
>>
>>60450176
install ubuntu and use a ppa.

>>60450204
>wat?
wat?
>>
>>60450158
>Due to high maintenance
I knew it, slowly getting rid of everything requires any interaction from them. Happily left the train.
>>
>>60450219
>install ubuntu and use a ppa
No, I don't want to use Ubuntu, and besides, I'd rather have one centralized repository than have to add many different ones.
>>
>>60450219
>install ubuntu and use a ppa.
Son, what the fuck are you saying. AUR may be scary if you're new but learn to read PKGBUILDs and it's golden, one major sell point of arch. PPAs are a mess of old abandoned stuff
>>
>>60450258
>but learn to read PKGBUILDs and it's golden
You don't even have to do this, it just werks.
>>
>>60450220
>>60450204
but why does the abs need maintenance?
it's just a directory tree with PKGBUILD's which they use when they make packages
what's there to "maintain"?
>>
-> >>60450279
>>
>>60449797
Will I have to set up wireless drivers by myself and so forth?
Or just normally install via "universal USB" installer and be done with it?
>>
>>60450258
>the selling point of arch is a insecure community repo because arch doesnt have packages
>>
>>60450164
Whatever bro
>>
>>60450320
The same could be said about Ubuntu and PPA's, what on Earth is your point?
>>
>>60450281
idk man, im not an arch maintainer--just a dude
>>
>>60450319
>Will I have to set up wireless drivers by myself and so forth?
No, everything should work out of the box.
>>
>>60450320
Did you even read my fucking post, son. Stop trolling
>>
>>60450053
Nah it's sounds like hate, you just don't like kids proud of installing arch.

It's minimal by default.
It's lightweight.
It's user friendly: a lot of always updated packages, and AUR is really easy to use.
>>
>>60450355
Bruhh look at this dude
>>
Well I hope you're happy /fglt/, you have successfully shamed me from using Arch... What should I use instead?
>>
>>60450414
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

>>60450439
ubuntu. why use anything else?
>>
>>60450450
>why use anything else?
Because Ubuntu sux and ur a faggot
>>
>>60450439
Windows, why use anything else?
>>
>>60450439
What's the problem with arch?
>>
>>60450439
Source Mage GNU/Linux
>>
Why this suddenly became a debate over opinions?
>>
>>60451262
>suddenly
Do you not realize where you are?
>>
File: help.png (294KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
help.png
294KB, 1920x1080px
is there any way i can run this without using gnome? would xfce work?
>>
>>60448136
>>60448186
It's finally done copying, and when I tried it, it said something about No Boot sector detected on USB.

I did exactly what you said, the drive does look like it has the windows iso structure.
Thread posts: 334
Thread images: 10


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.