/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>60420386
Why not use youtube-dl?

Hey so who wants to help me with a little challenge?

>Create a bash script that uses "rsync" command for backups and restores. The first argument should be either "backup" or "restore" and the second one is an optional argument specifying "realrun". The purpose of the "realrun" option is to avoid applying changes that won't be correct changes (without the option). If "realrun" is not set, use "--dry-run" option in rsync. Note that rsync supports huge number of different options. The most important ones are "--archive", "--relative", "--verbose", "--progress", "--human-readable", "--delete" for backup. Delete will cause changed not yet backed up to be lost. One option is to use the "--include-form" option for including only specific directories.

>>60425689
install solus

BEFORE YOUR DISTRO QUESTION
Read please:

>I want a "lightweight" distro (no bloat / base only)
>Not Arch or Gentoo

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer

you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:

apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm gnome-themes-standard breeze-icon-theme

>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
> / :
~1gb
>ram usage:
tty - 22mb
i3wm - 46mb

============================
>>> ARCH WITHOUT SYSTEMD <<<
============================

1/ https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/runit/
> makepkg -cirs

2/ runit 1 2 3
check either ignite, void or obarun github for boot script inspiration BEFORE you restart

3/ re/boot with kernel parameter

init=/usr/bin/runit-init

4/ now you can safely get rid of lib/systemd and libgudev
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/eudev-git/
> makepkg -cirs
done

5/ get most of these
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?O=0&SeB=nd&K=nosystemd
>mine for reference

pacman -Qqs nosystemd
dbus-nosystemd
libpulse-nosystemd
libutil-linux-nosystemd
mkinitcpio-nosystemd
procps-ng-nosystemd
util-linux-nosystemd
xdg-user-dirs-nosystemd
xorg-server-common-nosystemd
xorg-server-nosystemd

>troubleshooting libsystemd.so.0 error
rebuild using aur or abs disabling lib/systemd flags
>notable mentions
qt5-base mpv - both have aur pkgbuilds

>>60425816
What's the point of reposting this in every thread?

>>60425864
it's helpful information unlike your post

>>60425917
No. It just spreads cancer.

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>>60425994

Is there a native wayland web browser other than gnome web/epiphany? Is epiphany any good or slower than firefox?

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If your gnulinux is so good, how come there is less than 1% of all steam users actually using it?

>>60426151
kill yourself

cmake is good?

Does xubuntu still have screen tearing?
Is it bad? I've never really seen it, and xubuntu feels like the best ubuntu based distro for me.
Also should I use 16.04 or the newer one?

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So /g/ I fucked up and didn't enable encryption on my ubuntu install. I have sensitive data on my computer and it is a laptop that could be lost/stolen. What is the easiest way to fix this?

I'm not particularly concerned about the strength of encryption, just something good enough to stop Tyrone

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Would going from Ubuntu to Debian MATE be a good distro hop? Liking unity but its getting dumped soon.

>>60426388
Use compton against screen tearing and LTS if you choose ubuntu.

>>60426437
Can I install compton on persistent USB xubuntu?

>>60426388
Afaik xubuntu comes without compositor, so if your card doesn't fix tearing on its own, install compton.

Will xubuntu be your first distro? Have a look at Ubuntu Mate also.

Use the newer one. Ubuntu is pretty stable and doesn't break on updates; in fact, upgrading point releases is much less hassle than upgrading from LTS to LTS.

>>60426123
chromium

>>60426432
Why not Ubuntu MATE?

Only debian sid is good for desktop.

>>60425689
This would look cool as wallpaper. Can some skilled anon scale it up for a 1920x1080 pape?

>>60426540
Want to be more proficient at GNU/Linux or at least appear more proficient

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test

>>60426504
I sort of used xubuntu a while back, years ago.

I don't really like mate, it feels a bit heavy. xfce just feels right off the start.

I pretty much need a light-ish distro for running persistent USB on a browsing\video watching machine. My old harddrives are way too noisy.

First for expand is the best program.

Anyone else here used to be a sysadmin for some Unix other than Linux? I was a Solaris admin and used it on everything. After oracle came around and fucked everything up, especially opensolaris I've been forced to slowly move all my personal stuff to gnu/linux, and every employer I've ever had is using gnu/linux now. I will never forgive oracle for destroying the true greatest OS ever created.

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>>60426432
Unity isn't "being dumped" or anything. iirc, it's going to have LTS support. If you like it feel free to use it. (Especially since I have no doubt in my mind a small team will fork it and make it even better.)

That being said, from a purely DE standpoint, I love MATE. It's a DE I find myself always returning to. MATE was a fork of GNOME2 before GNOME became a tablet OS, and was based around some extremely stable libraries. It looks really nice now that they just ported everything to gtk3 (although a thing is missing here and there.) Of course you'll be losing some of the eye candy you may have grown fond of, it's still a solid utilitarian DE that's easy to make look good. I personally use MATE-Menu (although Brisk Menu is in development and looks really good as well)

As far as Debian vs Ubuntu goes, that's really up to your personal experience. Personally I've always enjoyed ubuntu releases other than canonical. Debian splits into three repositories: Stable, Testing, and Unstable. Stable is basically what you use on servers, so most people go to either testing or unstable. Call me biased after having tried an arch base, but I think dealing with debian package management just got too cumbersome for me to deal with. My experience went like this:
>Package I want in testing wasn't there, but in unstable
>can't get apt-pinning to work, just upgrade to testing
>oh but now packages I want in testing aren't there but are in unstable (^:
>have to add a fuckload of third repositories for packages not even supported

I went back to an arch base because the repositories "just werk" and I've rarely had a problem where a package just wasn't avilable to me.

But there's no harm in trying Debian with MATE if you wanted some more experience. Just install it on another partition and give it a swing. It's a fine OS and if it clicks for you, it clicks.

Don't worry about Linux epeen though. Nobody gives a fuck except shitposters

>>60426613
*triggered*
Unix is a dead system from the 70s. There are no Unix systems today. There are UNIX systems, which is a trademark. Only a bunch of systems got a UNIX certificate (like macOS). Also Unix was proprietary and therefore it sucks ass.

>>60426655
LOT of typos sorry I just woke up
> Personally I've always enjoyed ubuntu releases other than canonical's mainline branch, also compared to debian releases
>>oh but now packages I want in unstable aren't there but are in testing (^:

>>60426602
Then xfce should be perfect.

>>60426680
didn't knew about that, so it's basically all gnu or gnu-like?

>>60426655
>>60426686
What about Arch. I enjoy fiddling with my OS but I am time poor (I work long hours).

Will I actually learn more about GNU/Linux or will I just learn how to install Arch? If it is the latter I cbf.

>>60426733
No, people created Unix clones independently. For example GNU, BSD, etc. GNU just was the first system that was Free Software, the idea itself still stems from the 70s Unix. "unix-like" is a good definition.

>>60426774
I like arch myself, but I don't know if you learn too much. I certainly learned a bit more about all the packages that are required to go into my system, so that can be a bonus. The only time it became a timesink is if I turned it into one on purpose (IE Fucking with things no regular user would.) After the initial configuration, just werked for me.

You might try Manjaro if you're interested in arch. It's basically the equivalent of ubuntu to debian. It's what I run on my desktop now and I really don't have any complaints.

>>60426774
If you want to actually learn something about the system, read LFS and create your own distro. Alternativly Gentoo teaches lots of things too. Arch doesn't teach you anything other than creating a filesystem, paritioning and installing a DE. That are things you can learn on all other distros too.

>>60426698
It should, but I have no experience with persistent USB linux, I don't know what kind of things I can install or uninstall or how fast it kills the flash drive.

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I want to play heroes of might and magic 3 on Linux laptop. Should I just use a windows VM or there is a better way?

>>60426911
Linux sells laptops?

>>60426911
For gaming on GNU/Linux you have 3 options:

WINE: check winehq to see how well a game is supported, make sure to trust the source, because it's pretty insecure since WINE isn't a sandbox or something like that, it interacts directly with your filesystem

VM without GPU passthrough: slow, don't bother

VM with GPU passthrough: the best solution, but hard to set up for beginners, once set up, it's great, best performance and secure

>>60426983
you forgot option 4: based GOG
>no DRM
>no steam dick
>GNU/Linux native games

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>>60427017
GOG releases games under a nonfree, proprietary license. This is directly hurting the cause of the FSF. Therefore, one should not support or endorse this gaming platform by suggesting buying game licenses from them.

>>60427053
it does less harm than drm software, which makes it less evil
drm is something even windows users should boycott completly

>>60427099
Windows useds should boycot Windows completly and switch to GNU/Linux.

The whole point of boycotting things is forcing society to stop fucking up. It worked pretty well for GNU/Linux until Open Source showed up and welcomed nonfree drivers instead of working on replacements or completly rejecting them. This is why we are stuck with half assed made, proprietary blobs.
The same thing can happen to games. There is no point in making the source secret.

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can u guys redpill me on Eclipse?

>>60427099
Both are unethical and restrict the user in ways it shouldn't. Whether or not the prohibition of the redistribution of the original copy is enforced or not is, on its own, as inconsequential as the freedom to view and modify the source code, if the other three software freedoms are absent. Arguing that DRM-free software is OK because you are granted freedom 2 (share exact copies) is like arguing open source software is OK because you are granted freedom 1 (view the source code). This is NOT the case, both are examples of proprietary, evil, user-subjugating, oppressive software.

>>60426983
>WINE isn't a sandbox
running as another user wold be solution?

>>60427156
>There is no point in making the source secret.
so you do you feed your children when your a game developer? do you want that they starve?

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So I just reinstalled xfce and honestly, it's hard for me to really see anything in it anymore. Everything in it's UI and settings just feels...dated when compared to something like MATE, which manages to be just as light but still maintaining an attractive user interface and more features. I wasn't planning on staying on xfce anyways (probably going to install cinnamon or MATE since this is my desktop), but it's been pretty eye opening for me. You can tell that the updates to xfce have been sparce over the years, that's for sure. Not sure I see any reason to use it now

>me in charge of posting in the right thread

>>60427282
Don't act like you have no choice to change your job. There are better, more ethical jobs then selling cheap meth or writing proprietary software.

>>60427282
>so you do you feed your children when your a game developer? do you want that they starve?
if we are talking about games, ur right.
if we are talking about things that can break privacy, implement censorship (OS, communicators), there is no point in making close software. IMO it should be literally illegal.

>>60427282
Free Software doesn't mean that you can't make money with it.

>>60427342
this, compare CSgo/LoL skins 4 eg.

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>>60426151
cuz 90% people are dumb.
9% need software that work only on windows.

>>60426983
>>60427270
I'm interested in this too. I have plans for a machine where I'd run a piece of untrusted, proprietary software under wine. I was thinking of running wine in a chroot. I can also keep the machine out of the sensitive parts of my LAN. Any other ideas?

>>60426151
a) It's funny that you're STILL posting the same picture. Searching the archives on the filename shows the same post for 3 YEARS BACK. Holy shit man. Impressive.

b) GNU/Linux*

c) The graphic is misleading; it shows detailed informations about a specific GNU/Linux sound set up and compares to a non-detailed Windows setup.

d) kill yourself

e) make sure you're dead

f) by the way: https://www.gamespot.com/articles/steam-reaches-100-million-users-and-3-700-games/1100-6422489/

how about


1 disc for gaming
1 disc for serious stuff

or is dualbooting with wendys secure?

>>60427156
>There is no point in making the source secret.
so others don't pirate the game?!

>>60427555
as far as i know many distros give to "default" user access to another disks.

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>>60427587
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

A US judge, presiding over a trial for copyright infringement, recognized that “piracy” and “theft” are smear words <http://torrentfreak.com/mpaa-banned-from-using-piracy-and-theft-terms-in-hotfile-trial-131129/>.

>>60427587
see >>60427342

>>60427587
>implying you can't pirate a nonfree game

>>60427742
>pirate
Stop using that term. It's brainwashing cancer.
Sharing is good. When you use the term "pirate", you're accepting it as a criminal act.

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bash vs zsh; go

which do you prefer and why?

>>60427847
fish because it's not bash nor zsh.

>>60427515
graphic is from here
https://www.wikiwand.com/en/PulseAudio

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>>60427847
GNU bash, because GNU

>>60427909
thanks for posting

>tfw got a second system
Should I venture into the land of GNU/Linux?

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>>60427924
>GNU bash
More like "Belongs in the trash"

>>60427942
you must do so if you want to be Free.

https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
https://software.opensuse.org/422/en

^^^^newfag distros here

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>>60427942
Do it.

>>60427958
REKT

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>>60427017
But I want it for free

>>60427286
>more features
>in a GUI
If you want features, learn to use the CLI. Timeless interface, intuitive, consistent, resource-light and mostly hardware-independent, also remotely accessible and you can easily share your settings with other neckbeards when shit breaks (cat some files into a pastebin instead of uploading 10 GB of individual screenshots).
That said, if you want a GUI and you want it to "feel" right, use the one you like, because that's a very subjective way to judge DEs.

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What's your experience with printing/scanning under GNU/linux?
I'm thinking of getting a new laser all-in-one printer but I'm worried about compatibility issues.

>>60428137
>If you want features, learn to use the CLI. Timeless interface, consistent, resource-light and mostly hardware-independent, also remotely accessible and you can easily share your settings with other neckbeards when shit breaks (cat some files into a pastebin instead of uploading 10 GB of individual screenshots).
>That said, if you want a GUI and you want it to "feel" right, use the one you like, because that's a very subjective way to judge DEs.
this
>intuitive
not this

>>60428176
>what, if I want to print to the stdout I have to write echo WHAT MANNER OF UNINTUITIVE BS IS THIS REEEEE
>I typed cat but got gibberish instead of a cat, 0/10 UX

>>60428008
>>60427983
Shouldn't be too hard, since most of the stuff I use has a linux version. I think.

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>>60428320

>>60428158
If it works, it should work oob in most cases
if not you get to travel down the CUPS rabbit hole

that said, anything from HP will work oob (99% of the time)
last time I used brother printers it was sorta hit or miss but it wasn't hard to fix

Honestly getting printers to work reliably is much easier under macOS and Linux just
because of CUPS.

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>>60428414
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60428449
>GNU/Autist
Linux

>>60428320
keep going

>>60428495
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

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Favorite terminal emulators?

Realizing I'm not digging the xfce4 terminal emulator. Something about it feels...off.

>>60428508
urxvt

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>>60428495
>Mail me at "[email protected]" if you have any questions.

>Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you
>need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may
>be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used
>with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft. These tools
>aren't in the distribution - ask me (or GNU) for more info.

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>>60428414
I was thinking of getting Canon i-SENSYS MF229DW, pic related.
Because it has WiFi capability, but I'm not sure how to use it with Xfce.
>CUPS rabbit hole
Any decent guides on it?

how the heck do you disable bluetooth?

It still seems to be running despite stopping bluetooth.service

>>60428158
https://h-node.org/printers/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/A-Full/undef/undef/compatibility/undef

I have a brother laser printer (decided to permanently say "fuck you" to inkjet printers). I looked up drivers for it before purchase. It works out of the box, although not all printing resolutions are available with the driver I'm using. For a while it also had this weird printing glitch, but dicking with the resolution and parameters fixed it. Painless experience for the most part.

I don't recall any compatibility problems with the inkjets I had before this.

>>60428591
https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/black-and-white-laser/mf229dw

there is a Linux driver on their page for it and what looks like a guide

>>60428158
Never had an issue and printing from the command line is a joy. Mostly used Canon.

>>60428651
The manual say the drivers are for simple printing only, no duplex, no feeder, no scanner.
>>60428664
Do you use lpr -o RAW foo.pdf

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What are soem cool terminal commands?

>>60428718
qrencode, great as clipboard action in KDE.

Hey guys, what is the best distro? Please tell me so I can install it and move on with my life.

>>60428499
The problem I have is that this system I have is really weak. (2GB~ ram, integrated video card, weak processor)

>>60428718
If you want to learn how the system works, issue a command prefixed with "strace". The manpage will tell you everything else.

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>>60428815

>>60428834
Slax or puppy linux.
ChromuimOS if it's really weak.

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How do I install codeblocks on Debian? I've downloaded the .tar.xz file, but when I extract it I just get a folder system with a bunch more files to extract (see pic), and so on. Nowhere do I see a "codeblocks installation program" executable, or even a readme.

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>>60428834

>>60428869
Thanks.
I know its a bad idea to have my serious experience be on something this weak (Years ago I tried stuff on virtualmachines and it was a lot of fun) , but I won't judge all of linux based on it.
My computing got more and more streamlined in the last year, (Now I only need a browser, a video player and no games) so I think this is the time to make an Odyssey.

>>60428885
All those are installable packages.

>>60428885
run:
sudo dpkg -i "the *.deb you want to install"
then run:
sudo apt-get install -f
to resolve dependencies

>>60428920
What's the CPU?

>>60428902
damn. i mean
>>60428815

shame on me

>>60428815
Debian. You start with it (or after Ubuntu) and after all the distrohopping you come back to it.

>>60428885
That's not how you install software in a distro like Debian, anon. You use your package manager.

sudo apt-get install codeblocks

Or use synaptic if you prefer a GUI program.

Downloading debs from who knows where and installing with dpkg -i is something you may have to consider if the program you want is not on the debian repositories, or if you need a newer version. That is rarely the case, and it certainly isn't now. The version you're trying to install is in the backports repository.

>>60428815
Source Mage GNU/Linux.

>>60428994
Didn't know codeblocks is in the repos.
Everyone ignore my >>60428939 post.

>>60428995
Meme Linux*

>>60429042
GNU/Linux*

>>60428994
Not working, I get this message:

root@anon-PC:/home/anon# apt-get install codeblocks
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package codeblocks is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'codeblocks' has no installation candidate

>>60429050
Linux*

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>>60428943
Intel Pentium Dual T2310 @ 1.46 GHz
>mfw
This is where my project goes down the drain, right?

>>60429060
GNU/Linux*

how to find out if my cpu has the botnet?

>>60429059
Add the backports repository. There's no version of codeblocks in stable, hence your error.

https://backports.debian.org/

>>60429091

grep botnet /proc/cpuinfo

>>60429075
Debian with LXDE will work fine.

>>60429091
u mean hardwere backd00r?
https://stallman.org/intel.html
if its intel >Core2 u have one.
maybe intel isnt the only one.

>>60429091
If your CPU was made after 2006-2008, you already have the botnet (the CPU engine systems) inside™. There are some tools to find it out on github. Learn more about the topic at libreboot.org. Not sure if possible to check with standard cli programs.

>>60429133
PS. i read that backdoor have own MAC, so its possible to neutralize it using firewall, isnt it?

>>60429078
Linux*

>>60429201
GNU/Linux+

>>60429183
you mean intel CPU's?
>>60429201
*GNU/Linux

>>60429213
>>60429217
Shit/Linux*

>>60429217
Both, Intel and AMD are affected:
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#intel
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#amd
>>60429236
GNU/Linux*

>>60429254
systemd/Linux*

>>60429254
Linux*

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>>60429254
alright.... any usable jewFree CPU?
or i should switch 2 raspberryPi?

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>>60429254
>The ME also has network access with its own MAC address through an Intel Gigabit Ethernet Controller.

>this hardware and its proprietary firmware can access and control everything that is in RAM and even everything that is shown on the screen.

w-why?

>>60429274
GNU/Linux*

>>60429307
cuz they can, thats why. WE DAMN NEED OPEN HARDWARE.
>>60429184
bump

>>60429328
non-GNU/Linux*

>>60429307
much shekels

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>>60429254
Why is it so difficult to use a computer in freedom.

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>>60429424
Whoa, anon, "free" is such a business-unfriendly term. I prefer "open".

>>60429128
Thank you for not breaking my dreams.
How do I get rid of Windows?
I install GNU+Linux and then delete it from there?

How do I tail -f but only show new content, I do not want to see the current last 10 lines that tail normally shows.

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>>60425689
Okay, so I have no sound control applet on cinnamon with manjaro openRC. I assume it's because cinnamon uses pulseaudio, but since it's fucking up it just hides the sound control even if it's supposedly on the panel.

Went diving in and even though pulseaudio is starting, it can't connect to the server.

$ start-pulseaudio-x11
Connection failure: Connection refused
pa_context_connect() failed: Connection refused

Any suggestions? I've never had to fuck with pulseaudio before.

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>>60429492
Open source ignores the point of free software

>>60429424
It isn't, basically. You can buy librebooted thinkpads that work without nonfree firmware online. But well, people want to make profit and they think in terms "secrets ensure profit".

>>60429492
Open Source (basically blame guys like esr for it) is failure. It says "welcome" to proprietary soft- and firmware as "suboptimal solution" instead of what it actually is: a problem. Open Source pretty much stopped the whole Free Software revolution. There's no point for companies to think about making free firmware when people accept the nonfree solution.

Why do people go through the suffering that linux on desktop is?

>>60429554
Because it's enjoyment of actual computing instead of just doing things that Microsoft or Apple allow you to do.

>>60429554
GNU/Linux*

>>60429591
systemd/Linux*

>>60429591
Linux*

>>60429598
A "Linux Desktop" would only be possible if the kernel would develop into a complete operating system, inclusive desktop enviroment like GNOME or KDE. Lets hope it doesn't.

>>60429625
There are alternative userspaces for Linux, Linux doesn't need GNU

>>60429625
enviromenD by shekel hat™ will fix this problem

>>60429527
I don't get what you're trying to say, but if you're after some sort of real-time update of data appended to a file, try

less filename

and then hit shift+f.

Hint: "interrupt" means control+c in that context.

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>>60429577
but Windows app store has now linux subsystems

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>>60429694

>>60429532
Managed to fix it. Kind of stupid since I usually don't anticipate a full on reboot being necessary, but anyways two things happened.

I removed the autospawn line in the config file (Which idk if fixed or not)

and then I also did
rm -rf /tmp/pulse* ~/.pulse* ~/.config/pulse

At first it wasn't working and the daemon still refused to start, but after a reboot everything worked fine. Kind of weird but whatever

>>60429694
Actually there's no linux in these systems.

>>60429694
GNU with a Linux emulation layer*

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With his shaky finger hovering over the Enter key after typing ‘sudo pacman -Syu’ on his system, the Arch Linux using man from Jacksonville, Florida had never experienced such anxiety, sources say. With the ominous “Proceed with installation? [Y/n]” text still displayed on his computer screen, the user of the Arch Linux operating system spoke to reporters, detailing the almost daily grueling and stressful exercise he goes through. “On the one hand, I’m excited to have new software or new system packages available almost daily,” he said while tightly clasping a cup of extra strong coffee between his hands and a slight quiver in his voice. “But you know what they say: ‘an update a day, you will surely pay’ and ‘the KISS operating system? More like the masochist operating system’“. The user, who wished to only be called “Tim”, wouldn’t divulge where he heard such sayings but said he had heard them “just around the internet”. “It’s just the stuff you hear,” he added. “Any new updates could break your system, corrupt data or turn your entire family into communists. Just stuff like that. But other than that I’ve really enjoyed my experience with the OS so far.” The latest reports say that Tim’s update seemed to go smoothly after all, but he says he will “enjoy it while it lasts”, as tomorrow will “bring another round of updates”. Reports also say Tim had been considering switching back to Ubuntu, but it would be “too boring and not updating fast enough”. “I guess I kind of like living on the edge, man,” he had added.

>>60429509
>How do I get rid of Windows?
When installing GNU/Linux you get the option to keep windows or kill it.

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>>60429694
>sudo screenfetch

>>60430012
>you get the option to keep windows or kill it.
The way you said this makes it sound like a gladiator fight

>>60430048
It is.

>>60429683
Ya I did not word that the best but what you recommend worked for what I wanted tyty : )

>>60430103
Don't be so drastic, it's just an OS, not a war.

>>60430304
It's indeed a war. Freedom vs Slavery.

>>60430407
Slavery is freedom

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>>60430415
/thread

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>>60430415
Gno.

threadly reminder to install debian 9

Arch,

is there a way to make the cursor disappear after a period of time?

>>60430624
Yes.

>>60430624
Arch bro,
try unclutter

>>60430624
>>60430666
forced memes are bad memes

>>60429358
Gnu+Linux*

>>60431072
systemd+Linux

what's the performance difference between a live cd and a real install? im trying out different distros for my shitty old r60e thinkpad and i dont know which to pick. tried the latest mint and the performacne is shit (quite expected)

>>60431125
XFree86/systemd+Linux/ganoo

>>60427808
but it is a criminal act

>>60431127
Loading binaries into RAM is slower.

>>60427342
>>60427358
so we wouldn't have more singlepayer games because of it?

>>60429128
So I get Debian, and that comes with LXDE, right?
I just need to write in the lines written down in the Debian wiki?

On openRC, what is the equivalent of starting a service with the --user flag in systemD?

>>60426983

how is the VM wih GPU passthrough? just a virtual machine using directly the GPU? i have shitty 4Gb of ram, i would worth it?

>>60431508
don't waste your time, just get an extra hdd for windows man

So, is Arch really unstable?

battery
present: yes
rechargeable: yes
state: charging
warning-level: none
energy: 0 Wh
energy-empty: 0 Wh
energy-full: 27.9424 Wh
energy-full-design: 35.52 Wh
energy-rate: 0 W
voltage: 14.52 V
percentage: 0%
capacity: 78.6667%
technology: lithium-ion
icon-name: 'battery-caution-charging-symbolic'


means my battery is kill or my power source is kill?

>>60431636
No. It's literally stable packages. You're welcome to use the unstable or testing repos if you want though.

>>60431647
It means you can only charge it up to 78% of the original capacity. i.e.100% today is == 78% when it was new. It's perfectly normal wear. I'm at 86% capacity currently.

is there an alternative to lubuntu for low performance devices? it looks like ass

CPU - Intel Core Duo T2300 1.66 GHz (Intel Core Duo)
GPU - Intel Graphics Media Accelerator (GMA) 950 - 128 MB
RAM - 512MB

>>60431704
it doesn't hold a charge at all though (the energy-rate is at 0w)

is it likely this means the battery is kaput or the power source?

>>60431375
Yes, or get debian with multiple DE.
Or Lubuntu.

>>60431755
I'm fine with debian.
Sounds mainstream enough for me.

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>>60431730
I DONT KNOW. Now I'm worried about my battery.

>>60431636
Not really. It kinda depends on what you classify as stable though.

It really depends on the package. I just think that it sometimes get harder to troubleshoot issues because if you don't update for a while you end up with a slew of packages and if one of those was borked it can be hard to figure out that was the issue.

>>60431779
no lad, so long as it holds a charge you're fine.

i run gaems on my lappytop probably overloading the powersource

>>60431773
Lubuntu is more so.

>>60431810
I just need a mediaplayer and a browser honestly.
And that most gnu+linux aplications be compatible with it.

>>60431789
>depends on what you classify as stable though
It's literally stable BY DEFINITION

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Probably going to be asking questions about it for a while until I get comfy...

So I like what I've used of openRC so far, but it doesn't seem to have an equivalent of journalctl or whatever. (Perhaps i'm just missing it.)

Is it possible to enable logging? Also if you get an openRC error, how do you look into it to findout what caused the error?

>>60431887
time to switch to systemd

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Which one should I get for an Intel machine
I know i386 sounds logical but I'm not sure.

>>60431942
i386 is 32 bit intel-like
amd64 is 64bit intel-like

>>60431952
So 32-bit is enough for a machine with 2GB of ram.
Or is the 64-bit version worth it?

>>60431887
OpenRC doesn't have a integrated system logger, install a dedicated logger like syslog-ng.

>>60431887
>t. Lennart Poettering

>>60431974
you pick based on the processor you have
if your CPU is 64bit then amd64 is the obvious option

what is the difference betwixt 32bit and 64 bit?

>>60431988
Ok.
Sounds simple enough.
So I will need the 64-bit package then.
And a pendrive.

>>60431974
>>60431999
>>60432029
if you really dont know how many bits your CPU is just try to install the 64bit version, it wont let you to install a 64bit version on a 32bit processor

Is there any laptop that doesn't have a chiclet keyboard, can run linux, and isn't old or a thinkpad?

>>60432040
im not the origional dude, im just wondering the difference betwixt 32bit and 64bit.

>>60432040
Checked on Intel's site already.

>>60432060
64bit cpus can process 64bit number at a time, which allows them to have more instructions (nonissue) and adress 2^64 bits of memory (kinda)
32 bit cpus can do the same but only up to 32 and 2^32 respectively

>>60432060
64bit has twice the number of bits

>>60432107
i am reading this as 64 bit should run a bit quicker and is necessary for more complex tasks, correct?

>>60431789
My "stable" is: I just want to use the system without having to reinstall it from time to time because of some sudden problem or update

>>60431903
I don't think so FBI...

>>60431987
Awesome thank you anon. Turns out I already had a version of that installed so I'm gonna play with it a bit and see if I can set it up to work in a smart way

>>60432107
What's the difference between x86 and x64?

>>60431887
Sure, there are many logging utilities.

>>60432127
Tons of people have no issues with Arch, me included. You'll just have to try it to find out if you'll fuck it up.

>>60432140
x86 is the intel cpu architecture
x64 (full name x86-64) is the 64 bit version of the x86 architecture, invented by AMD

>>60425816
>i3
Too bloated, install tinywm the only wm anyone should ever use.

>>60432181
So it's the same as x64 or different?

>>60432223
not exactly sure what you're asking about, but modern x64 processors still contain x86-32

tl;dr: x64 is a modern version (2003) of x86-32 (1985)

>>60432127
Then a rolling release distribution is actually ideal for you as long as you apply common sense with updates.

>>60432172
>>60431675
aigth then, I'll try with Antergos for the lack of time purpose
btw thanks for the reply

What's so great about dwm?

Why should I use systemd?

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*blocks your path*

>>60432543
>muh GUI
Use the framebuffer console

>>60432543
*echos your PATH*

#!/bin/bash
echo "$PATH"

my server is having some issues

deploy@w8b8r8m8:~$ sudo
-bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error
deploy@w8b8r8m8:~$ apt
-bash: /usr/bin/apt: Input/output error
deploy@w8b8r8m8:~$ ls /usr/bin | grep sudo
Segmentation fault

I can't initiate another SSH connection, I only have the current one active
I don't want to reboot it and have it completely stop working

>>60432586
No browser to post on 4chan via framebuffer.

>>60432837
>doesn't have 4chan pass

>>60432695
nice blogpost

>>60432695
I honestly can't see a way out of that. It looks like your / got forcibly unmounted or something.

If you had had the chance to run busybox, maybe you could at least investigate - but if you can't run any binaries I don't know what you can do. Actually, isn't ls a bash built-in? It's segfaulting anyway.

Is anything that the server should be doing actually working? I'd be surprised.

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>>60432910
>have a genuine issue instead of mindless shitposting
>lol nice blogpost

>>60432934
the HTTP Server is still working, I can't figure anything else out since almost everything is segfaulting

As a non-root user, can I grant rw access to some of my files to a specific user?

>>60432999
usergroup

>>60433005
Cann I add users to the group/create groups without root privs?
If not, can I at least add users to my primary group? Though I'd rather avoid it because that would mean very likely changing permission of other of my files so that the other user cannot accidentally mess with them.

>>60432971
Well, if that happened to me, I'd shit my pants and look up hard drive prices.

And salute when the time to reboot finally came.

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this is the linux babe

So I managed to knock $200 off my new car in exchange for helping this lady fix her laptop. Her hard drive is turbo fucked so I figured I could just dd the old hard drive to the new. However, I found out about a variant called ddrescue which seems good for saving the drive itself. I don't really need to save the old drive, I just need to clone it once and be done. Should I just use dd or is ddrescue a better solution?
Also, what's a good distro to run off a flash drive for this?

>>60433115
well it's running on seagate drives, but they're in RAID 1
I did have a power outage a week ago, and I don't know if the software raid that comes with ubuntu will fix itself if something like that happens

Okay, so working on something and not sure what logs I would need to find to troubleshoot this issue.

 
 sudo rc-service mpd start default
* Starting Music Player Daemon ... [ !! ]
* ERROR: mpd failed to start

I checked the "everything" log but didn't find anything other than that error.

For the record, I can start mpd just fine from console, so I'm just trying to figure out why it won't let me start from openRC

>>60433156
ddrescue does not "save the drive". It reads what can be read, and proceeds over what can not. If the drive's fucked and you try to image it with dd, it'll stop as soon as it runs into an i/o error. ddrescue won't - it'll simply leave some blanks in the image.

Any distro will do. Pick one that'll be easy for you to use so you can get down to business quick.

>>60433309
Oh okay. I didn't know dd did that, /g/ wiki made it sound as if any errors would just be replaced with something.
I'm good with anything like debian, but I wasn't sure if there was some specific version that worked better from flash memory. Thanks anon.

>>60433412
Okay, maybe I was wrong - after a quick look at the manpage, it seems dd can be told to continue if it runs into an error. ddrescue has additional features, though. It keeps a log of what it could and couldn't read, so you can run successive passes and maybe recover more data than in one single pass of dd.

So, what should I do with my first Linux system once I have it?
I though of it as an archive of sorts.
What do you guys use it for?

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Can somebody explain me WHY THE FUCK GDM IS SO HUMONGOUSLY SLOW?!

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>>60433498
Alright cool, I'll stick with ddrescue. I'll install ubuntu on a flashdrive and grab ddrescue from the repos, thanks for the help senpai.

>>60433610
I use it as a developer environment/pentester/literally anything, it's a computer mate. Only thing it kinda can't do is play video games but that's gradually changing.

>>60433741
I guess it would run shit like Open X-com and other open source remakes.
Maybe I could use it as a safe way to browse the internet.
It has less viruses right?

>>60433762
>It has less viruses right?
uuh.. y-yes? Don't run firefox as root.

>>60433792
It's not like I ever had problems with viruses. Malwarebytes and CommonSense[Currentyear] served me well.
What is a good videoplayer for this? MPC?

>>60434006
On linux or wangblows? I personally use SMplayer (which is a frontend for MPV) on Linux, but on Windows I still use MPC-HC

There's really nothing else like MPV on Linx. Definitely superior to VLC unless you're playing abstract formats

>>60434006
>>60434041
I agree with this anon. Only problem with MPV is high cpu usages sometimes.

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>>60428815
People will tell you here to install linux distros which require some knowledge in linux... i.e. ubuntu, linux mint, gentoo, debian... All these are meme distributions.

Most user friendly and pretty much windows like distribution would be SourceMage, great community, great distribution.

Install SourceMage.

>>60426911
It depends on if you want to expansions or the mods. There is a native Linux version of the original game but not for the expansions. The HD remake doesn't have a Linux version as far as I know and it doesn't include the expansions anyway.

If you decide to install it again I recommend the fan expansion Wake of Gods. Everything it adds is optional but there's a whole lot of great stuff in it. My favorite feature is to temporarily "Godify" old maps before loading them to make playing the same maps over and over less stale.

>>60427017
Heroes 3 on GOG doesn't support Linux natively. You still have to go trough wine or a VM.

It's unlikely the game ever will be ported to Linux without a complete engine rewrite because the source code for both the expansions are lost.

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Time to read RMS's political comments and--
>Naturism propaganda

>looking for a distro for my craptop (512mb ram)
>try out live mint 17
>runs nice
>decide to install lubuntu 14 for the best peformance
>runs like shit

am i being rused?

>>60434059
Then I will get that.
What is a good browser?
I hate Firefox with a passion and Chrome doesn't fit with the "purity of the system.

>>60434532
Firefox's good, give a try to ESR, however they are doing a lot of stupid stuff like dropping XUL. Waterfox/Pale/IceCat are better, kind of. Other browsers I don't know, opera is pretty much dead after dropping Presto. People that will say w3m and some other obscure browsers are fools.

also bump?

>>60434478
>512mb ram
get a newer thinkpad

>>60425689
Why does opera not support embedded mp4's on Fedora?
Like i can play them on firefox and chrome, just not opera.

>>60436648
Stop using nonfree browsers.

>>60436692
Stop using nonfree imageboards.

>>60436943
>inb4 HURR DURR NOT EXECTUTED ON MY MACHINE bullshit

>>60436943
/thread

POST CFLAGS

CFLAGS="-march=amdfam10 -mtune=native -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -fstack-protector-strong -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -fno-lifetime-dse -fno-schedule-insns2 -mcx16 -mpopcnt -pipe -fno-plt -fstack-check -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2"
CPPFLAGS="-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-z,combreloc -Wl,-O,2 -Wl,--relax -Wl,--enable-new-dtags -Wl,--sort-common -s" 

So i finally caved in and got rid of infinality, now my java applications look like hieroglyphics.
What do i need to change/install to have sane font rendering?

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I set up a back up that is encrypted using the default back up system in Ubuntu.

To restore the back up do I have to open it up in ubuntu or can I access the encrypted files in other distros or operating systems?

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What are the best compilation flags for a 600Mhz Pentium III to get fast speeds?

This is assuming we're running on some Linux 2.6/3.2 environment.

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if i get rid of unity and install xfce, does my ubuntu become a xubuntu?

i just want a much lower ram usage on my laptop and an idle ubuntu takes around 700mb while i read everywhere that xubuntu takes around 400mb. that 300mb can mean a lot on my 3gb ram laptop

>>60425689
From sftp I'm running the command:
get -r 216

and I get this message:
get: Invalid flag -r

My professor told me to input this command to retrieve files for the year but it's not working. Help?

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I just tried installing ubuntu, now when I start it up all i get is this.

What is going on?
how do I fix/stop this, it wont start up it wont do anything.

>>60436648
bumop

>>60431709
Theme it, silly

I'm trying to compile st from source and it gives me this error

In file included from st.c:29:0:
/usr/include/X11/Xft/Xft.h:39:22: fatal error: ft2build.h: No such file or directory
 #include <ft2build.h>
                      ^
compilation terminated.

I have no idea what I did wrong, it should work. I even double checked the dependencies.

>>60438532
Reread,then reread it again

>>60438557
I know that it's complaining that ft2build.h isn't there. It should be, but isn't.

I want to use gnome, but these title bars. What were they thinking?

>>60438557
>>60438664
You know, fuck st I'll just use a different terminal it's not worth going through all this trouble to install when it should be working.

I'm installing gentoo. How do i know what kernel modules i need to automatically load, and do i have to fucking manually enter every single thing?

How do I set the default font any terminal will use?

Why would I want to use wayland when I lose x forwarding? Sure x forwarding is total shit but it's convenient shit. Why bother firing up a vnc server when you can just forward a program?

>>60437842
bump, help pls

M8's help me out, how do i fix the bug of my ubuntu 17.04 from connecting a hidden wifi network

>>60438879
It's possible to fix to some extent with themes.

>>60439273
Edit the .Xresources file in your home folder

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So, why doesn't /g/ just make their own Linux distribution, give it the pros of TempleOS, and call it Temple of Stalloman?

>>60426774
I love Arch, but I spent 2 hours messing with config stuff intead of studying for my ochem exam last night. I've broken it about 4 times in about 2 months but was able to fix it within a couple of hours. So if you're short on time to fuck around with things that won't make your life any better go with something else.

>>60431730
Mine days 0 when it's plugged in

>>60440516
GNU/Linux*

We already did, and failed.
https://install-logos.github.io/
https://github.com/install-logos

>>60440790
>failed
why?

>>60440803
There was lots of autism.

First autism was the logo. Took us like 20 threads to get the perfect logo.

Second autism was that the development split into two teams; people who worked on lo/g/os (/g/ anons) and people who worked on RiceOS (some irc fags)

Then both teams made love to each other and the goal was the third autism: RiceDB, a package manager for rice themes, configs, etc. When finished, lo/g/os should have been the showcase for RiceDB. lo/g/os development stopped, people worked on RiceDB ... and got bored.

I have an issue with youtube in firefox where the screen will dim (as if going to sleep) after about 3 minutes of playing video in fullscreen. The issue is not present in MPV.
Solutions I found all point towards modifying flash; however, I opted not to install flash plugin.
Any tips to get rid of this annoyance?

>>60438879
they were thinking... tablet friendly.

To their credit, once wayland is here gnome might actually be usable on a tablet. But yeah they're way too big for a desktop.

>>60441033
Why aren't you watching youtube with mpv?

>>60441313
Good question
I guess it just bothers me when my system isn't 100% functional. Call me autistic if you like, it's how I am

>>60441498
relevant pasta

MPV, youtube-dl and web browsers

Play YouTube videos (or audio) with 2 clicks?

>Video

cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpvv.desktop
Exec=mpv --ytdl-format="bestvideo[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]+bestaudio[abr>128]/bestvideo[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]+bestaudio/best[vcodec!=vp9][vcodec!=vp8.0][height<=720]/best[height<=720]/best" --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui -- "$(sselp)"

>Audio only (with thumbnail)

cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpva.desktop
Exec=mpv --ytdl-format="bestaudio[abr>128]/bestaudio" --no-cache --no-sub-auto --no-stop-screensaver --script-opts=osc-visibility=always --player-operation-mode=pseudo-gui --external-file="$(youtube-dl --get-thumbnail "$(sselp)")" --autofit-smaller=960x480 -- "$(sselp)"

>Download music?

cp /usr/share/applications/mpv.desktop ~/.local/share/applications/mpvd.desktop
Exec=st -g 100x20 -e youtube-dl -xf "bestaudio[abr>128]/bestaudio" -o '~/Music/%(title)s.%(ext)s' "$(sselp)"

Add to your panel(s)
>Copy Link Location
and click

>Icon=
- /usr/share/icons/breeze/actions/22/ im-youtube.svg kdenlive-show-video.svg
- /usr/share/icons/breeze/places/22/ folder-download.svg folder-music.svg

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>>60441498
Holy shit me too. If I notice something wrong with something I'll never use again it claws at my brain until I fix it.

>>60441548
And this works how?

>>60441583
you add those to your panel - tint or whatever
copy video url
click the panel icon

dubs, checkem: >>60441711

>>60441548
>unironically using suckless tools

lol

>>60441728
dwm is the greatest wm
prove me wrong
>protip
you can't

>>60441953
Tiling is for queers

>>60441605
Absolutely autistic. Save your neurons and just use the 'open with' extension

>>60442182
wat

>>60442169
where did i say tiling?

>>60442182
>using extension which would probably soon be depracated for something you can do natively regardless of browser

>>60441728
also surf

How does literally everyone on this board run a system with less than a thousand packages? No matter which distribution I'm using (Void, Arch, Debian Netinstall, Ubuntu Minimal) I always get to two thousand slowly after reinstall just by installing all the software I absolutely need.

Does the board literally just stare at their screenfetch all day?