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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out infographic in>>>/g/csg

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread: >>60317821
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STAX SR-507 worthwhile upgrade from HD600?
I want to see what the meme is all about
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>>60344225
>meme that FR is all that matters in headphones
Nobody said that.
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I have been using an 02 Amp and ODAC for five years paired with HD600 and K701s. Is there much point in upgrading the amp and dac if I were to get HD800s? I am happy with their performance and am very sceptical of those who extol the benefits of tube amps, though I have not yet heard one.
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>>60344225
If we are discussing sound quality only, are devoid of any nonlinear problems that the headphones might have and then simplify the matters a little, FR is everything there is to headphone sound. Everything you hear is a direct causation of it. Tonality, soundstage, "speed", "resolution" whatever.

>>60344880
HD 800 is a tiny bit less sensitive than those other two. Do you have headroom with the volume now?

>>60344555
>upgrade
Is it? That's a subjective matter.
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What are the go-to-cans you get your mother who has no amp?
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>>60344945
>Do you have headroom...?

Absolutely. It's the alleged sound difference I am curious (and sceptical) about.

Does anyone know of anywhere near Edinburgh or Glasgow I could try a good tube amp or is it too niche?
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>>60344979
Depends on your budget, but the $59 HD 558 on Amazon maybe
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>>60344555
>STAX SR-507

They're deprecated, replaced with the SR-L700 which is a significant improvement from the SR-507 (less bright, more bass, angled driver, less prone to positional issues). Sound-wise the L700 is like a baby SR-009.

Obviously this obliterates the HD600, you can actually hear sub-bass with the STAX.
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Shills out.
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what da hell is that shit of image??

The only good of this are the animu girls... spent so money in that headretarded stuff brain your wallet and your brain anon
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Reposting ;-;

After much autism, I got to 4 options:

M50X, Status CB-1 (By lurking here)
Sennheiser Urbanite XL, Sony MDR-100AAP (By friend's suggestion)

>Budget
$100-160
>Location
Mexico
>Source
Lap
>Type of headphone
Full, over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
The comfier, the better. Using them for long periods (5 hore more hours), but willing to sacrifice for better sound
>Sound signature
Bassy or warm
>Past headphones
Cheap Sony ones

I would like it to leak the less possible
I mostly listen to dreamy music, if that helps
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>>60345221
Any decent amp that doesn't cost more than the earspeakers?
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Got HD558. A friend really likes it and wants to get one but we live in a small yuro country where the big etailers aren't sitting on boxes of unsold HD558s

How do the HD559 compare to the HD558? What is up with all those additional models in the 5x9 series anyway?
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>>60322708
>Studio headphones had high impedance because theyd get put into interfaces that output to multiple headphones at the same time as a whole team simultaneously listened to something. It also allowed them to be inserted into all sorts of inputs with no issue.

How does high impedance help with that? What'd you get if lower impedance headphones were used in those cases?
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>>60345497
Wait for Hot Sale at the end of the month. Chances are you can grab something better with that budget in Amazon Mexico or Mercadolibre.
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>>60344555
It's inferior.
>>60344880
No.
>>60345221
Odd, I can hear sub-bass on HD600.
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>>60345763
The 559 is worse
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>>60347024
proof?
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>>60345057
>Absolutely. It's the alleged sound difference I am curious (and sceptical) about.
The headphone choice doesn't factor in here beyond sensitivity which is why I asked you about it. HD 800 is a load like any other and with O2 there's no reason why the amplifier would be a limiting factor somehow.

>>60346153
>How does high impedance help with that?
Less power draw, less likely to clip the output.
>What'd you get if lower impedance headphones were used in those cases?
First a lack of volume when amplifier runs out of power, simultaneously distortion because of the clipping and then a broken amplifier.
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So I found some sennheiser 558's for about 80 bucks. Anyone ever owned one? Is sennheiser a meme or actually good stuff? Previous MDR-V6 owner here, they just stopped working on me
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>>60347863
Yes, for that price they're good, if you can't get 598 for 100$ or so on black friday sales or some shit like that
Paid around 80$ for my 558 too, their normal price at the time was more than 100$ (and around 160$ where I lived)
Best pair of headphones I've owned, but I've only owned shit b4, extremely comfortable too
They're open back though, so keep that in mind if you've never used any open back ones
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Can anyone recommend some decent, yet cheap closed back headphones, mainly for gaming and music. My cousin wants a new pair and he's only ever owned gaming headsets I think, I'd rather like to avoid headsets and he's not making a big fuss about it either, so I thought maybe I could recommend him something he'd like
>budget
the lower the better, probably 50 euros, not a lot more
>Location
Eastern Europe, Lithuania. This means that the more mainstream the headphones are, the better, as I might not be able to find some more obscure brands
>Source
PC
>Type of headphones
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort
the bigger the comfort the better
>Sound signature
I guess bassy, v-shaped or neutral at the least, none of the recessed
>Past
gayming headsets, non gayming headsets etc. you get the idea

I've also heard that Kingston HyperX Cloud were one of the few decent headsets, but I guess they're not made anymore(as there seems to be at least 5 other Cloud versions) so the price goes 80-90 for those, and they're not worth that
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>>60344167
What are those
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>>60348212
thanks anon
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>>60348360
At $80, no. Clouds occasionally come up for about $40 refurb or the Cloud Core is usually the cheapest and most barebones of the varients. You could also take a look at the superlux headphones like the 662/662 EVO/669/660 or the comfy rebrand of the 669, Samson SR950.

Comfiest of the ones listed are the SR950 and 662 EVO
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>>60348947
cloud core is decent ?
I just thought anything other than version 1 will be just generic gayming headset with shitty mic and shittier sound
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>>60349025
All the clouds (excluding the Revolver and Stinger) are the same headset. The Core version is just the most basic and barebones of the rest as it doesn't come with velour pads to swap out or a USB splitter though I might be forgetting some other extras they come with.
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>>60344425
Bought a magni to combine with my fulla 2 as a dac, and it sounded exactly the same as the fulla 2 on it's own using my hd600's.

Bit disappointed but expected. I think I heard the bass being slightly tighter on a couple of rap songs but that's not worth the extra money and mess of power cables etc. The fucking volume knob was bent at an angle and didn't turn smoothly either, same as the audio jack. They told me that they'd 'never had this kind of complaint before' hmmmmm. No complaints with my fulla though to be fair.
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>>60349522
quit being a cuck and return it
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>>60349111
hmm, only the stinger is 52 euros, while all the other versions available to me are 80+(even the core is more expensive than 1st gen clouds)
SR950 are going for ~32 euros and the only ones available from what you mentioned
Comparing to amazon prices, seems like a pretty good price here, have you personally used them ? Could you give some more info on them ?
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>>60345565
>earspeakers
(You)
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So I am looking for a way to get my headphones louder coming from my pc. So I need a soundcard or amp that is relatively cheap and has a headphone+mic input.

I'm not an audiophile so it just has to sound 'ok" and I will probably be fine with it.

Any suggestions?
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>>60349641
Yeah, I've actually been switching between the SR950's and 668B's. They both use the same drivers (SR950 Closed/668B Open). They have a 3 meter long attached cable with a 1/4" screw on adapter with a 3.5mm underneath. The velour pads are very comfy and are somewhat stiff and thick to helo with isolation and bass. Coming from Superlux HD 681's, the bass was a warm welcome change from the basslight 681's though can get bloated and muddy without EQ. Although the mids can be overshadowed by the bass at times, it's clean and clear though slightly recesed and the treble I've had no problems with and are a bit emphasized but not as much as my 668B's. The soundstage is pretty wide for a closed headphone and although it doesnt quite match my 668B's, it's pretty close. Isolation is pretty good though can be improved with leather earpads like HM5 leathers or Hybrids.
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>budget
around $150 or less
>location
FL
>source
Phone / laptop
>type
on ear
>open/closed
does it matter with on ear? I guess closed
>comfort
medium to high level of comfort
>sound sig
>bassy
>past headphones
gaming headphones and 20 dollar earbuds
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>>60350045
KCS75/PortaPro, Custom Streets, Vmoda M80/XS
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>>60350009
Thank you, these seem like a very good option
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>>60350121
They're pretty good for their price. I got mine for $25 and am very satisfied with my purchase.
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What's the opinion on Sony MDRAS200 Headphones? I copped a pair, but wondering were they stand compared to other earbuds or headphones.
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>>60350118
custom streets look like exactly what I want, thanks man
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>>60349915
creative soundblaster e1
or the ugreen soundcard
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>>60349522
Magni will definitely get louder if you want that. I couldn't notice a sound difference either, but having another volume controlled 6.35mm output is worth it to me.
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>>60345565
>earspeakers
Need an "energizer" unit specifically made for them.

>decent amp that doesn't cost more than
Try Schiit Fulla 2. Or Magni2 if you're hyper-confident there's no issue with your DAC.
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>>60346386
>Odd, I can hear sub-bass on HD600.
No that's just the harmonic distortion
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>Audio-Technica R70X
just got to listen to these next to HD600, 650, and DT880. i liked the R70X a lot. anyone own these and happy with them?
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Will the HE400S run properly off a fiio x5 as a DAC?
Also, what are some other good headphones in that price range?
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>>60351720
>as a DAC?
No? That's why the amp is in there.
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First time reading up on headphones and when I read stuff like how some headphones are better in the 20k hz range than others.

I guess I don't even understand sound at all?

Is everything we at a given time like 1 ms just a single frequency?

Sorry if I sound retarded but is there somewhere where I can read up on this with an explanation that's kept relatively simple?
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>>60352085
try reading the wikipedia page for Fourier transform
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>>60349915
Fx-audio dac-x3 $30
Or
Fengru clover $25
Or
XU09 $15
And for the mic any random usb soundcard for $2, just Never put headphones in them
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Other than reduced sound leakage is there any benefit to closed headphones over open, particularly for audiophile grade phones?
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>>60352822
Easier to achieve better bass extension without high distortion in dynamics.
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>>60344555
anything is an upgrade from the hd 600 cuckphones
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>>60344555
If you can, go for it; only poorfags would say otherwise.
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>>60352085
>Is everything we at a given time like 1 ms just a single frequency?
no. a sound is a pressure wave, which can be thought of as a time-series of numbers representing the pressure at each instant in time

any wave can be described as a composition of different frequencies, and your *perception of the sound* in the wave is closely related to those frequencies. so people will very frequently mix discussions about waveforms and frequency, because they're mostly exchangeable. but they're not the same thing

now read the wiki page for the fourier transform
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>>60352085
Not sure what you are asking.
It does sound like you are starting from the beginning.

>>60355100
>>60352121
If someone could just read through the Fourier article and understand it, they wouldn't ask questions here.

>>60353035
>Easier to achieve better bass extension without high distortion in dynamics.
Being closed off reduces distortion by itself. Excursion is limited by air stiffness. Planar type headphones are usually closed off, enabling bass extension.
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>>60352085
Honestly if this is you level of understanding of sound, grab a high school physics book. You'll learn the basics of sound and waves first in an easily understandable manner. It will be a lot easier to add more information on top of a solid understanding of the basics. Fourier transform is more advanced stuff.

You need to understand frequency, amplitude, superposition principle and phase on a basic level.
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Is the M50x with a Bluetooth adapter the best Bluetooth headphones available in the price range? Pic related.
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>>60356195
the m50x isn't the best at anything
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>>60356256
Got a recommendation for Bluetooth cans in the $150 range then?
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>>60356538
find some second hand bose
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>>60356177
sorry to trigger you anon but [spoiler] high schools don't teach you physics unless you are a smart brain and don't blow up your ACT or SAT [spoiler]
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>>60344880
Build an ABX switch [or buy one]
Borrow some "good" DAC and amp, and see if you can hear the difference.
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Are there any similar alternatives for Takstar HI 2050s?

I bought these on Amazon about a year and a half ago and unfortunately they're starting to give out. I absolutely love them but I don't think they sell them anywhere in the UK anymore, only place I can find them is AliExpress.

I paid £44 for them at the time and they're probably the best headphones I've owned.
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>>60344880
You know you can always get SS/tubes/adamantium wires blessed by monks and test them on >>60357982 ABX switch that will cost you around 20$ and hear yourself and use return policy to get rid of things if you heard no difference.
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>>60358188
SHP9500 will have a different sound signature, but they'll rival them in comfort.
Similar value if you get them for $55.
I've owned both, the SHP have a better sound once you EQ them.
The Takstar were too v shaped for my taste.

668b is a decent alternative, but the highs are severely boosted and have awful stock pads.
If you have a big head they clamp like a vice.
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Friendly reminder that there is one crazy guy who is dead set on selling as many HD600's and HD650s as possible and so will try to shill them whenever he can. Do not listen. There are plenty of superior headphones in the price range.
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>>60359327
honest question: what are some alternatives in that price range? i'm looking at ath-r70x
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>>60359492
DT880
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Newfag here.

Guys im getting really confused trying to figure out how FR graphs work. Specifically with dbs, how do i compare from a graph that goes up to 90db to one that goes to 30?

Do you mind explaining
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>>60359327
Think they shouldn't be discussed in terms of better or worse.

Certain headphones excel at different things.
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>>60359685
Yes, I was just being stupid. They're good headphones but I dislike posts that make them appear to be the end-all be-all and only option at any price
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>Budget
I'd say about $150, loosely flexible.
>Location
United Statesland
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Rather comfortable. What I have is quite nice, and I'd want to try and emulate that as much as possible. More on that below
>Sound Signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Headset, actually: Logitech G230.

Yeah, I know, gaymer headset. The combination appeals, simply because it's all one set-up. This set in particular, the G230, has decent sound quality, a fairly not-shitty mic, and the appealing $35 price tag. I'm a sucker for the mesh covers for the foam, too, rather than the slick peel-off shit, which doesn't breathe too well during any prolonged sessions. Thing is, they always break in the same place: the right phone swivel encasement, straight down the middle length. This set lasted me a good two and a half years, but only because I managed to salvage a couple of pieces from two others. One was for a roommate of mine. Doesn't help that the volume control also shits itself after three months, resulting in a headache inducing balancing act with the damn wheel.

If it weren't built with such weak parts, I'd just blow another $35 on a set, but I'd want to get something that doesn't start to crack after six months of general use. I also want to consider something for more professional use, such as video editing. I'm no audio expert, so I can't say how well my current set performs. I feel a more balanced feedback would allow me to better balance noises; a more professional opinion would be appreciated.
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What's a bassier and cheaper alternative to the Etymotic HF5?
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>>60359600
Probably the only competent beyer, t1 is not bad as well but you have HD800 instead, but it still has that treble spike altho not as bad as on other beyers. What is withe beyers and treble? I know they are supposed to be a monitoring headphone, so elevated treble but that's literally a spike up your ass every damn time.
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>>60345565
Find yourself a used srm1/mk2 or srm 323. Can try yahoo.jp auctions for those too, but you'd either need to rewire it (muh 100V japan input) or get a step up transformer.
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>>60360529
Forgot to mention, but some srm1/mk2s just have a voltage selector switch on the back so it wouldn't require opening up the amp. Not all of them are like that though.
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>>60359817
DT770 isn't neutral, has boosted bass and treble, but it's very comfortable and a great value.

For neutral with slightly boosted bass, HM5, CB-1, or m40x's with new pads is your best bet.
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How can I figure out what sound signature is right for me without shitting money?
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>>60360969
Get a neurtal and equalize it the way you want it.
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>>60360969
Just get something you're happy with and be happy with it. Unless the curiosity gnaws at you constantly, then you're going to have to shit money.
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>>60360969
what >>60360993 said, but it doesn't have to be neutral either, if you get a DT770 for example you can just eq it to be closer to neutral anyway.
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>>60344425
I just want some decent sounding headphones that don't make my ears sweat after wearing them for long periods of time. any recommendations? wiling to spend up to $150 USD but i'd prefer cheaper
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i have 80 ohm dt770s and i don't use an amp
am i missing out?
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How do you avoid headphone hair?

Serious question.
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>>60361398
On ears or IEM's
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>>60361398
by keeping my hair really short
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>>60359817
Sennheiser HD380 Pro.
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I'm not an audiofag, should I just get some cheapo M6 pro's and be done with it?

also I'm in canada and they actually aren't cheap they cost $60 wtf
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>>60361398
By not caring about what that even is.

Next question.
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>>60361254
unless you're having to max out your volume to hear anything i don't think that's a high enough impedance to have serious problems
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>>60359620
Compare them to HD 600. The one that is closer to it is the better one.
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>>60361833
>no bass
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>>60361244
this + the foam mod
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>>60357140
Guess that depends on where you live. Over here you could just take classes on whatever you want. Or just go to the library and lend the books used.
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>>60359620
Ignore the absolute dB value, look at the scale.

There's more to the plots than this. Different measurement couplers produce different results on the same pair of headphones. Range above 6 kHz is highly variable from coupler to coupler and from person to person. Coupler results don't translate well to human ears beyond this point. Leakage is poorly captured by the couplers too. Bass roll off can vary a lot in the measurements and it can be inaccurately portrayed. There are also different target responses used(variations of the diffuse field, ID, Harman or no compensation), different levels of smoothing (1/3th of an octave to 1/48th), some combine left and right channels into one, many combine multiple results into one average any so on. Headphones themselves show a level of variation too. If provided, understanding phase and impedance plots is useful. Measurements are a valuable resource but reading them properly can be tricky.
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>>60344425
I'm trying to buy an external CD drive but they all seem to have excessive features.
I want it purely for CD's. It will feed into my PC, then my DAC/AMP.

Does quality matter? Any recommendations?
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>>60360448
What about the DT1990?
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>>60361398
Pretty sure my hair is thinning where my headphones sit aye.
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>>60363975
Terrible
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>>60362553
Did anyone ever measure the HD 558 before and after the foam removal? I just see endless HD 598 comparison which I know lacks the foam but also has different baffle design altogether.
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>>60364290
They already measure near identically to begin with, I doubt the foam removal has a significant impact on the frequency response.
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>>60364310
There are some differences. I'd love to see a larger sample size. Different measurement sites show different changes in the response between the two.

I doubt it too which is why I wonder why is it always recommended.
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>>60364290
Not that I know of, but you can always just stick the piece of foam back in there if you don't like the way it makes it sound for some reason. It's a really easy mod.
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>>60364324
They're all within tolerances, there is just as variance between 598 measurements as there is 558 vs 598 measurements.
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>>60364337
there is just as much*
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>>60356538
Buy some beats since all you're looking to buy is garbage.
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HE400S vs HE400i

Talking £240 vs £350, worth the price increase? I want either one of them as my next set of cans but it'd be great to know if anyone here's tried both of them.
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>>60365601
>£350
That's pretty expensive, it goes on sale for like $250 here every now and then
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>>60365647
HE-400i is currently $225 at Ritz Camera
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Anyway I could fix this? Ripped the piece of off my headphones.
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so i have this problem where after a while my headphones lose sound in one ear (i think it's always the left one), if i twist the cable a bit it kind of fixes it (there's a sweet spot usually).

it's on a win7, lenovo, i don't remember what the setting were like but i think they also show left ear "turned off" when there is no sound, and then when i use those headphones on another laptop, they still have the same problem

is this normal? could it be my laptop that's breaking them? or is it a software thing.

the headphones are different brands and the laptop is several years old
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>>60369355
replace the headphone cable
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>>60368441
poor image but looks like you need to re-terminate the cable. a bit of soldering required, easy job if you have the tools.
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Ok my ath m40x are coming tomorrow
where do I download high quality music from and what keyword should I search songs with? is it: 320 kbps?
I remember a couple years back I could when i had an ipod touch and those apple earpods that I could tell the difference between youtube downloaded songs and torrented songs so i guess it matters right
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>>60344425
guys I just got my first car and I have a question about audio.. I wasn't sure where to ask but I figure some of you may have diverse audio uses and may be able to help me.

So the situation is
>old vintage-esque car
>old headunit that doesnt work
>want to maintain classic aesthetic of interior.

Currently my plan is to remove the old head unit and gut it, then I will install a bluetooth reciever with 2 RCA out and pins for audio control which I will wire into the classic head-unit. Then I will need some kind of amp and in-line volume control. The volume control will also be mounted in the head unit.

Now I have electronics experience but absolutely 0 audio experience, I understand that bluetooth isnt ideal for audio, aux is also an option on the initial reciever.

Do I wire it like this
>reciever
>in-line volume control
>2 RCA from reciever into AMP
>AMP output to speakers
?

The amp im looking at is sufficient to power the speakers in my car, but wont power a subwoofer. The real crux of my issue is i don't know how to wire a subwoofer, do i just splice the left and right channel before the initial amp and send that to a subwoofers amp?

thanks, im sorry this doesnt belong here
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>>60369355
no it's not normal, no it's not the laptop or the software

the fucking headphones are broken
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>>60370094
>m40x
good pick. I got mine a few months ago and am verry happy so far.
>where do I download high quality music
Rutracker
/mu/ archive
Deezloader
Soulseek
google artist + album + blogspot download (those sometimes are not high quality though)
>is it 320 kbps?
You want to either get mp3 320 or V0, they both offer high quality with a small filesize. Or you can download FLAC if you can hear a noticeable difference and don't care about filesize.
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>>60344425
Who 'shopped out the straw in that photo?
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i was originally just gonna grab one of those /g/ headphone guides but the wiki seems to be down and iirc they were kinda outdated so i'll just ask here

i'm looking for some IEMs to use for work and outside, budget is about $50 but i can go up a bit if needed. i'd like something comfy cause i tend to wear em for hours at a time. as for sound signature, neutral or maybe slightly bass boosted.

i don't have any retail stores to shop headphones in here besides big brands like best buy, so gimme something i could find on amazon or ebay.

>>60370094
>where do I download high quality music from and what keyword should I search songs with? is it: 320 kbps?
soulseek and rutracker are the top places now that what.cd is dead
like the other guy said, 320 or V0, but if you wanna test out your headphones properly, try out some FLAC. it's not a huge difference, but it will be noticeable.
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>>60371034
>>60370413
do you think I should download 1 song 3 times for each 320 v0 and flac and then decide which I like more or would it sound differently based on the genre n shiet
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>>60371536
yeah thats a good idea
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>>60345565
If new I would get the SRM-323X.

If used I would get the SRM-600LTD, SRM-T1 or SRM-1/MK2 in that order.

Lambda is easy as fuck to drive and sounds better with STAX hybrid tube amps.
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>>60349573
Returned it earlier today..
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>>60350507
The fulla 2 goes incredibly loud with my 600's. and it's the best amp I've heard so far so I couldn't be happier. Also, I can hook up my ps4 pad to it very easily with the output on the front, whereas the schiit stack doesn't even have that feature. It's a waste of money imo unless you already owned it before the fulla came out, or you have incredibly hard to drive headphones. I don't even know what headphones need more power than the fulla 2, hifimans? I wouldn't know.
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>>60371034
>it's not a huge difference, but it will be noticeable.
It's a small difference to no difference, sample dependent. Test it under proper conditions aka double blind it. This is the easiest possible thing to test double blinded at home: you only need software. On proper encodes I guarantee everyone struggles trying to listen for the smallest difference.

>>60371536
Downloads from different outlets can differ in more ways than just the format. If you want to know whether you can tell different formats apart, you'll have to download just one track in lossless and then re-encode it into lossy and double blind the test. Differences in masters and mixes of the same song are much more obvious than good encode is. The difference they create is also unlike compression artifacts.

Might be eye-opening to do it for anyone who feels confident about their ability in codec listening.
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Is the K712 worth it over the K7xx?
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Bump for this? >>60360301

I was thinking of the HiFiMan RE400, but I heard it's build quality is pretty cheap.
SoundMagic E10 could also be an even cheaper possibility.
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>>60370094
>where do I download high quality music
As in FLAC? Redacted.
Don't bother with /mu/ archive or Deezloader. Soulseek and Blogspots are going to be pretty lacking in FLAC as well. Rutracker is fine
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>>60374136
>As in FLAC?
I'm sure he meant properly encoded V0/V2 and not the FLAC meme.
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>>60374306
>properly encoded V0/V2
In which case avoid Soulseek and Deezloader at all costs. Be very careful with Rutracker and Blogspots as well. You will find improperly encoded MP3s a lot while using those resourced. Redacted is your best then.

>>60370094
See above
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>>60373018
>ps4
Optical to the input in modi 2 uber. That's what I'm doing with PS3.
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I've got a HyperX Cloud headset I've been using for a good while by plugging directly into my PC / phone / PS4, but it's not as bassy as I'd like and I'm looking to get into some fancier stuff. Should I start with a DAC or new headphones altogether? I'm not actually sure what sound difference the DAC makes but it sounds like it's assumed everyone has one so I'm willing to give it a shot.
I'm just a little lost because the top two DACs on Amazon cost $10 and $75 so I'm not sure how much difference there is between them either.
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>>60374530
Oh right, I was talking about the standard one. I'm guessing you mean you hook that up to your speakers via optical?

I meant that I connect my ds4 to the front of my fulla with a standard 3.5mm to 3.5mm cable
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>>60374136
>As in FLAC?
I got no idea what I should be looking for so idk.
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>>60375577
>I'm guessing you mean you hook that up to your speakers via optical

Never mind that bit, I know what you mean now and that's a pretty cool way to use your headphones with your console. Better than having a cable dangling out the bottom of your controller like I have to.
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>Budget
Around £100 somewhat flexible.
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort is really important to me.
>Past headphones
Just gaming shit
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>>60375669
It sounds radically different, too.

Console's DAC is super warm for some reason. It sounds very lowpassed.
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>>60375705
Sennheiser HD380 Pro.
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>>60375705
Beyerdynamic DT 770 80 OHM
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>>60375716
That might help on the bass side of things I'm guessing. That sounds like a nice setup but the uber stack is a lot of money compared to just the fulla and I can essentially do everything I need to do already. That switch button on the front of the modi uber though. hngggggg..
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>>60375635
Then why the fuck are you purchasing a hundred dollar headphone you fucking idiot?
Just use YouTube2MP3 faggot.
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>>60375705
HM5
>>60375391
If your PC has no noticable hissing/static/noise or your headphones are loud enough, you won't need a new dac/amp. If you want a little bandaid to help tweak your headphones sound, download Equalizer APO and Peace GUI. If you want an overall upgrade on headphones, DT770 70 Ohm or Custom Studios
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>>60362553
jeeze, when did the 558's get so damn cheap? I bought mine used in 2012 for $110.
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>>60375822
>thinking price is relevant to quality of a headphone
>thinking you need 'high quality' headphones to listen to FLAC
>thinking FLAC is distinguishable from properly encoded mp3 V2
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>>60375966
Thanks anon, I haven't noticed anything like that so I'll hold off on the DAC, but I'll try out that equalizer. Any reason you recommend those two headphones in particular though?
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>>60376197
>thinking price is relevant to quality of a headphone
It is.
>thinking you need 'high quality' headphones to listen to FLAC
To tell the difference between FLAC and MP3? Yes.
>thinking FLAC is distinguishable from properly encoded mp3 V2
With high quality headphones? Yes.
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>>60376332
Back to head-fi with your 'golden ears' you deaf, delusional retard
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>>60375811
Yeah.

I do own both the uber stack and the fulla2. I can easily say, while the stack is good value, Fulla 2 is *insane* good value.

They serve different purposes for me, as I use the Fulla 2 at work with my HD380 Pro, and the stack at home, with a more complex setup (I use all the modi2u inputs) and HD600.
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>>60376348
So this is what insecurity over being poor looks like.
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>>60376376
Sorry I can't afford anything that meets your standards.
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>>60376197
>thinking FLAC is distinguishable from properly encoded mp3 V2
There was a listening test here recently, with mp3 128, 320 and FLAC.

Most people's results indicated FLAC can be heard vs mp3, which is what serious ABX-based mass listening tests already told us years ago.
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>>60376388
Show proof without killer samples and legitimate ABX tests from Hydrogenaudio.
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>>60376388
In that test, FLAC was distinguished against mp3 320 most of the time.

And of course mp3 128 did very poorly as expected.
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>>60376387
Oh sorry, I didn't recognize you 10 shekel Walmart shitphones Anon. How are you enjoying those Hd800 equalized to sound like Walmart shitphones for comfort?
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>>60376387
Excellent taste in sluts and headphones.
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>>60376406
Thinking back now the comfort may have been worth the price
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>>60376348
I hate those retards, but what you are saying is plain wrong. V2 is easily distinguishable from FLAC (even more if you consider most people don't know how to transcode well).
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>>60376447
>>60376398

Honestly the fact that 320kbps is mentioned at all already shows how clueless these people are, CBR is trash.
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>>60376438
Just buy some shitty 10 peso Wal-Mart ear buds next time, anything more is placebo autism.
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>>60376467
But they aren't comfy
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>>60376483
Pussy.
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>>60376318
The Takstar Pro80 before it was rebranded as the HyperX Cloud is a cheap knockoff of the DT770.
The Custom Studios use the same drivers/speakers as the DT770 80 Ohm in a different enclosure and other neat features like an adjustable bass slider, removable cable and you can swap the little side plates for a different look.
The 80 Ohm is said to be the best as it's the stop gap of still being able to run off mobile devices and can be improved on an amp if they're not loud enough for your liking.
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>>60376318
Because the headphones hyperx cloned were trying to copy DT770's.
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>>60348850
Hey
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I'm afraid of going deaf. Is there anything for windows and or Linux that prevent things that are too loud while not fucking up quiet sounds?
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>>60376376
Only poorfags waste space on flac
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>>60376931
Just turn down your volume to something that's comfortable and relatively quiet. Don't try to keep cranking the volume all the time.
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>>60374067
>Is the K712 worth it over the K7xx?
Curious about this myself. The cheapest I can find the K712 is $230 greymarket.
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>>60377057
I'd suggest listening to a very low volume for an hour or two before cranking it up just a little to pleasant level.

Then leave it like that, pretty much.

This is what I do most of the time. I used to run my HD600 on high gain @magni2u at 12-3 o'clock territory. Now I'm in low gain and I move 9-5 depending on what I'm listening to.

Even at max it's less than high gain at 12 o'clock, so it's progress. And things sound much better once used to the low volume.
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SPH9500 and a V-Moda Boom Pro or a HyperX Cloud for a mic+headphone combo? Which one has bettee performance?

pic unrelated
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>>60374067
yes, k712 is better is just about all aspects. pads are also much nicer.
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>>60374067
No they're the same headphone.
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>>60375822
cant a man seek for good audio quality and good audio equipment even if not an audiophile?
im simply trying to learn.
were u born with this information?
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>>60378567
you can learn all about good audio quality on the hydrogenaudio forums
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>>60378503
K7xx has the annie pads tho
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>>60378517
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>>60378641
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK7XX.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK712.pdf

Fuck off idiot.
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>>60378625
nah id rather ask here if u dont want to answer thats ok
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>>60378687
except most people here don't know what they're talking about and are just head-fi/reddit rejects
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better be the next op image
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>>60378683
ok, are you trying to prove me wrong?
the k7xx don't have balanced drivers, they are warmer, less forward and bassy. they are tonally similar but use different drivers.
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>>60378776
>don't have balanced drivers
[citation needed]
>>60378776
>they are warmer, less forward and bassy
Nice buzzwords considering they're within manufacturing tolerances of the K712. They just have better earpads and those can easily account for any consistent differences between the two headphones.
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>>60378802
buzzwords? I'm describing the headphone tard. that is literally how you would describe them compared to the k712.
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>>60378852
Except they're the same headphone
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>>60378802
The K7XX and K712 have a different driver part number but both sound identical to me and I wonder if AKG just placed a different part number on the drivers that were Austrian made.

Not that anon, btw.
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>>60378874
They have different part numbers because the K7XX are technically based on the K712 Anniversary Edition.
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>>60378687
That's a lot more information than can be gleaned from a single post.
If you're truly interested, lurk here, do your research, get some decent gear, and enjoy your journey to mid fi hell.
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>tfw upgraditis but nothing to upgrade to
;_;
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>>60379936
Why not something similar yet crazy expensive like LCD2's?
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>>60378890
The K7xx is based on the K702 Anniversary Edition
There is no K712 Anniversary, it's the "Pro"
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>>60380104
Ah but the K712 were based on the K702 Annie
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>>60380031
Didn't enjoy the sound signature, made music sound too thick and distant for my tastes.

I also tried the HD800 and those were too bright.
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>>60379936
HD650 is the only real upgrade
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>>60380187
>less neutral version of the GOAT headphone

muh warmth
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>>60380232
It's not like the HD600 are neutral to begin with, you may as well go for something that sounds good.
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>>60380245
they are neutral for headphones
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>>60380245
Name 5 more neutral headphones in production.

I'll wait.
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>>60380245
>sounds good
Define 'sounds good'.
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>>60380302
AKG N90Q, JBL Everest Elite 700, STAX L700, STAX L300, STAX SR-Omega, Sennheiser HE60, Sennheiser HE90.
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>>60380347
Also inb4 every listed headphone is dismissed on some baseless, bullshit reason like "It's too expensive" or "It's not an HD600"
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>>60378273
help anyone?
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>>60380347
>AKG N90Q
Peaky treble.
JBL Everest Elite 700
Treble dip.
STAX L700, STAX L300, STAX SR-Omega
Only STAX that are neutral are the old ones with the DF unit.
Sennheiser HE60, Sennheiser HE90.
Actually not that neutral according to some non-IF measurements.

You're just desperate at this point. Since I'm unbiased I'll list you some headphones that are actually more neutral but have potential problems:

SRH-1440 and SRH-1840.
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>>60380441
>SRH-1440 and SRH-1840
How come no one ever talks about these? Or Shure in general
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>>60380441
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>>60380540
Nobody bought them.

Distortion measurements are high, looks like it lacks bass on measurements.

I'd like to also nominate MDR-V6 since DF operates from 100Hz-10kHz, but it's a bit sub-bass heavy.

The Etymotics are obviously the best but those are IEMs.
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>>60380441
>DF meme
Get out
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>>60380395
You should know to avoid gamershit. Why not save some more and get something entrylevel good?
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>>60380618
What would you reccomend?
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>>60380347
Oh wow all these headphones but not a single measurement.
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>>60380649
Yeah let's post measurements of the HD600 instead showing how ""neutral"" they are.

Why do retards assume absolutely zero bass response = neutral?
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>>60380395
I've got both, SHP are the better choice, just eq in some bass for muh explosions.

If you're going the closed route, CB-1 is more comfortable and less v shaped.
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>>60380663
Slight roll off on raw response != zero bass.

On a DF compensated curve, it has too much bass.
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>>60380628
Sennheiser HD600, HD599, AKG k702, HD598se, HD558.

Depending on your budget / willingness to actually get something you won't need to upgrade from (HD600 isn't that expensive, and good luck finding an actual upgrade for that).

Just keep in mind these are all open headphones, which might not be ideal for modmic purposes.

But how often do you actually use the mic?

OK, so you need to use it very often. Then, why not get a proper mic, which would make your voice sound awesome too?

There's a decent reddit thread on that: https://www.reddit.com/r/letsplay/comments/1brvu4/a_few_microphone_options_for_those_in_need_low/

Have fun.
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>>60380733
>slight roll off
Understatement of the century, it's essentially non-existant below 50Hz. Even bookshelf speakers can achieve better.
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>>60380747
https://clarityfidelity.blogspot.com/2016/04/sennheiser-hd-600-over-ear-headphones.html

That's wrong.

I've got a calibrated speaker setup and I can confirm that HD600 has too much bass compared to it. I'm not confusing visceral bass with loudness (dB), I'm quite trained in listening. My speakers sound better anyway.
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>>60380747
>non-existant below 50Hz.
Proof you've not used HD600 and you're not able to read FR plots either.
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>>60380789
>>60380791
I'm sorry your outdated garbage headphones don't meet modern standards
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>>60380806
>modern standards
Except that it isn't a standard as yet, kiddo.

Also subjectively speaking, bass isn't an issue on the HD600 and I'm probably one of the most extreme autists in this thread. The treble dip around 8kHz is the real problem. Yes, the HD600's bass isn't perfect but it's adequate for what it is. Ideally it should have better extension and less mid-bass output, but that makes it sound thinner (and more accurate) with slightly better impact. Remember we don't perceive sub-bass the same as the higher frequencies.

In the end, you're just a memer. Discussion's over.
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>>60380858
>bass isn't an issue on the HD600
But it is, not only does the subbass not exist but the incredibly high distortion in the region colors the midbass of the headphones
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>>60380877
k
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>>60381005
If it's over 1% anywhere between 20Hz and 20kHz it belongs in the garbage.
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>>60380858
>spiking treble at 8khz
Just buy a Beyer. The whole point of HD600 IS that it's got a flat midrange and recessed treble, no?
Regardless, the bass on the HD600 is BAD. Which is why I never listen to bass centric songs on them.
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>>60381028
I have a few Beyers in my collection. The sound signature on all of the popular Beyers are too bright for me. Not to mention the upper midrange is not loud enough. I think I may have a preference for the DT880's treble response over the HD600 despite it being brighter and sibilant, but overall the HD600 is the better headphone.

I don't think the bass is bad on the HD600, maybe you just like more bass. As much of an autist I am, I like how the MDR-V6 and DT770 does sub-bass with some songs.

Nowadays I just use an EQed vanilla HD800, if a song is playing that has lots of bass and I feel like I want more, I simply just add more with APO. I don't feel the need to do that with my speakers however as the visceral feeling is truly amazing.
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w2c these
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>>60381136
https://www.amazon.com/Koss-Pro-4AA-Studio-Quality-Headphones/dp/B00004Z7G9/
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>tfw fell for the meme and cant stand 90% of my collection because its all 320 or VBR MP3
I NEED A NEW HARD DRIVE FOR ALL THIS FLAC MUSIC YOU ASSHOLES
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>>60381154
>>>/b/
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>>60381154
You don't, faggot.

FLAC is for archiving unless you've got the space, if you don't lossy is fine.
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>>60381149
coppin thanks
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come join our Discord server with >1000 members. http://discord.me/headphones
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>>60381247
Go away Reddit
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>>60381282
Not from Reddit
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>>60381299
see >>60381282
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>>60381310
wewlad, great memes
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>>60381333
>wewlad
>memes
Thanks for confirming, r/4chan autist.
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>>60381180
But MP3 sounds noticeably worse. Is opus any good?
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>>60381338
keep telling yourself that
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>>60381347
Post flawless foobar ABX result
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>>60381134
I usually dislike lots of bass - I prefer good quality bass. Songs just don't sound as "tight" on the HD600 as they do on planars. I EQ down the bass on my PM-3s.
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Ok so I'm considering doing a major upgrade to my whole audio setup for my pc. Right now I just have some $30 Logitech pc speakers, this will be my first foray into "high quality" audio.

I honestly just took what the most popular choices seem to be, let me know if there are better alternatives.

>audioengine a2+
>audioengine d1
>sennheiser hd 598se

Combined cost: $580

Also a couple of other questions.

Is it worth paying double the price for hd650s instead of the 598?
Is it worth getting the S8 subwoofer with the a2+ or is it overkill at that point?
How do I even wire a subwoofer to the dac since it only has two outs for left and right speaker to begin with?
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>>60381439
Get the LSR305s for speakers
Get the HD650 for headphones
Get the Fulla 2

Live in bliss knowing you have an endgame setup.
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>>60381383
So why don't you EQ the bass on the HD600 and make it 'tighter'?

Most planars have muddy bass IME, but that's just how they're tuned.
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>>60381225
the 4aa is so fucking bad. Probably one of the worst headphones still made today. Think driver with weak magnets in a non sealed housing that absolutely needs a seal to produce anything under 400hz.
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>>60381474
It doesn't work cause of the harmonic distortion. At least, that's what I think I'm hearing. Turning the sub-bass up and the upper/mid bass down does make them more enjoyable, but it never quite gets to the level of my PM-3s.
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>>60381488
can i gut them and put better hardware in cuz i really like the enclosure
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>>60381439
>>60381456
Do this, not necessarily in this order. Headphones first, then the Fulla if you're not satisfied with your source.

Will need the Fulla 2 or something similar for the speakers.

HD600 is cheaper and preferred by many, can't go wrong either way.

That said, I would get a sub $100 headphone first instead of diving in.
Something like the HD558 or SHP500
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>>60381369
Is there a plugin for that?
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>>60381504
>>60381456
Ok, I know this reason is autistic and retarded as fuck, but the LSR305 is kind of ugly and I don't really want it on my desk. Is there any aesthetic alternatives? While I won't pay absurd prices, I'm not a poorfag and I'm willing to spend a little extra if it means it will look nice.

Thanks for the dac and headphone suggestions though.
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>>60381548
https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_abx

>>60381552
>Is there any aesthetic alternatives?
Yamaha HS5?
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I have ATH MX50xs already, what should i buy for improved sound quality?

would i be worth buying a FiiO D5 (only $19 lol), since im only using on-board audio atm? though it there was a significant increase in sound quality, id be willing to spend ~$500
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>>60381560
These look way better thank you.

Just curious what is the /g/ consensus of the audioengine shit? Is it the Beats of desktop speakers, loved by normies only because of its aesthetic?
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>>60381615
Pretty much, they're not much better than your typical Logitech system.
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>>60381552
Someone posted something he claimed was decent last thread but never gave the name of it
>>60344167
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>>60381631
Abacus C-Box 2, they're audiophile garbage
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>>60381439
Christ.

Get HD600 + Fulla 2.

Cheaper and way better than the combination you suggested.

If you're thinking on spending more on amps and dacs than headphones, you're doing this very wrong.
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>>60381596
>If your PC has no noticable hissing/static/noise or your headphones are loud enough, you won't need a new dac/amp.
You do have the money for an upgrade though...
DT770 250 Ohm + Schiit Stack (Magni2/Modi2)
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>>60381495
Find a first or second revision pro 4AAA from the mid 70's on ebay instead. https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/koss-pro-4aaa-70s-vintage-cans.102139/page-8 I think the guide to finding a good pair of 4aaa (first and second revision. Third revision is horse shit.) is on this page
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>>60381687
They are cute though
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>>60381715
thanks homie
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Are protein leather pads any good? Don't want to spring for brainwavz pads.
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>tfw you are all too autistic to join the headphone discord
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>>60381615

The A5's are pretty decent if you can get them on sale, but at that price point you're just competing with other speakers.
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>>60381833
Maybe try posting it on reddit where all the people in the discord came from
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>>60381615
you could also look at the Pioneer SP-BS22-LR's and a cheap-ish speaker amp. Slightly warm and clean as fuck with a flawless crossover. Probably my favorites short of the LSR-305 that don't cost $700+
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>>60381979
nah, reddit hates the discord and the sub mods are all faggots.
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>>60381596
You should spend audio money mostly in headphones, not dac/amp.

If you're not certain about your sources (like, your computers), just get a Fulla 2, that's cost effective. You'll see little to no benefit going above that.

This leaves you a lot of budget to get some really good headphones, like the HD600.
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Headphone newbie/pleb here, just tried out some more expensive headphones than I usually use for the first time, and this was my experience:

>use same $30 headphones for years, they're dependable and have always worked fine, if fairly neutral and nothing special about them
>try out some $90 headphones, play some music and some games
>everything sounds near enough the same except I can "feel" the bass more with the $90 headphones, but directional sound (important for competitive vidya) is the same, if anything the $90 headphones sound a little more muffled and distant
>the $30 headphones are more comfy too despite the $90 ones having memory foam padding and stuff, but maybe that's because my headphones are more worn/I'm used to them

Did the $90 headphones sound better? Yes, but really only in terms of having a bit more bass. Did they sound three times as better? Not even close.

I have mixed feelings, really. I'm kind of disappointed that I didn't have some kind of amazing explosive audio experience, but on the other, I'm glad that I know I don't need to buy expensive headphones to enjoy my music and games, I guess. I feel like there's probably a point where there are massively diminishing returns on how much you pay for headphones versus how good they sound. Going from $5 shitphones to $30 headphones is obviously a big improvement (no buzzing or tinny sounds), but $30 to $90 is much less of an improvement (the bass feels a bit nicer), so I can only imagine what going from $100 to $200 (or worse) is like.

Is it just me? Are my ears too plebeian to hear the "subtle" differences? Or am I just fine with it because I care more about price/performance and just having "good-enough" sound and being able to know which direction sound is coming from than anything else? Has anyone else here ever had this kind of anticlimactic experience when it comes to headphones?
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>>60382013
The fact that you know this means you definitely need to go back there, crossposting cancer.
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>>60382106
says the degenerate reddit and head fi noob reject
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>>60382105
1) What headphones were you trying out?
2) You probably want to spend about 2 weeks to get used to the more expensive headphobes then go back to hear the differences more noticably.
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>>60382105
what headphones are you even referring to? $30 and $90 tells me nothing.
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>>60382105
Price has nothing to do with it. $30 headphones might sound better than $300.

Also, having more bass doesn't mean they're better either, it's more likely the opposite.
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>Budget
$150ish
>Location
United States
>Source
PC, occasionally phone
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
8/10+
>Sound Signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Plantronics gamescom headset, thats about

Would prefer something that has both wired and bluetooth functionality, though idc what there is. Budget is flexible but would like to keep it in the range. Friend has a M50X with a bluetooth adapter and I like how compact it is with the adapter but still has the ability to go corded
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>>60382192
>ignoring the fact that trends exist
Sure, monks might sound better than beats, but they're the exception and not the rule.
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>>60381489
You're shit at EQing, bud.
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>>60382421
Nope, I'm just not deaf.
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>>60382285
M40X + DT250 Pleather/Velour, MSR7, Shure940 or Auray Velour/Sheepskin pads.
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So my HD598s have started cutting out, and now I need new headphones.

Budget: ~$300
Location: US
Source: PC and Laptop. I've got a Sound Blaster Z in the PC, but I can get an AMP/DAC for the laptop if I have to.
Either Open or Closed, doesn't really matter.
Comfort Level: Also not a big deal as long as they're not shit like the Monoprice DJs
Sound Signature: I like the neutral sound Sennheiser seems to have.

I was looking at the Monoprice M1060s, but saw mixed reviews. So I wanted a second opinion before I drop lotsa money on something. Thanks in advance to anyone who responds.
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>>60382622
Just resolder them
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>>60382622
Fix them ffs. "Cutting out" is most likely the cable, or the coil connecting the cable header to the driver.

Else, with $300 and "neutral sound", it's a clear HD600 recommendation.
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>>60382622
M1060's only have mixed reviews because the launch batch had wood cracking and complaints about the MMCX connectors being there in the first place rather than the 2.5mm connectors on now.
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>>60382642
>>60382664
I'm pretty sure it's the 2.5mm jack, which I don't have a replacement for on hand. I could direct solder a cable, but I really like the breakaway. And if I'm going to be ordering parts, I may as well just upgrade.

>>60382664
I'm still super salty about not getting the HD 6xx when it was available. I'm considering the HD 600 or the 650 as well. It looks like there's only a $27 difference between them on Amazon, which is weird.
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>>60382306
Monks don't sound better you fucking shill
Monks are garbage
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>>60382736
Seriously, Monks are worse than OEM phone IEMs. Who is shilling these pieces of shit?
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Howdy doody fellas, I'm writing in for a spot of advice on a little problem that I have been having, no biggie, but I thought that a few of you kind Gentoomen could possibly help me out with a few suggestions or pointers in the right direction. It's no big deal, just a simple question on advice for headphones, or more specifically earphones.
The question is thus: I want to buy my father a present for a special occasion (but I wont say what the special occasion is because that is not relevant) and the present that I want to get him is a pair or earphones - the ones that stick in your ear and fold up super small. He already has a pair of the Sennheiser HD60's I think they are but I am not 100% certain, but he is just using his stock as a block of rock in-ear ear buds that came with his phone which is a Samsung Galaxy S5 or maybe even an S6.

I saw an internet article on Wired or The Verge which was reviewing these $100 or $200 earphone which were meant to be super juicy, they come from china and you can get them in silver or gold style.

They also come with a custom carry case.

They are not wireless.

So dear 4channerz, may I please ask you for some help with which chinese brand in-earphones you would buy as a gift for your father.

My father listens to a lot of podcasts so that might help?

As far as I know, he doesnt listen to any rap music or songs with the heavier styles of beats.

But I do think we need an in-ear phone with all the same things as that chinese brand that I cant remember what it was called.

Thank you for your kindness,
From The Incredible Anon
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>>60382788

idk, the stock earphones that come with phones now are pretty good. Stock S7 earphones and earpods are surprisingly decent.
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Looking for something over ear to compliment my Shure SE-215 IEMs. I currently use a pair of M50X headphones but the SE-215 has a better sound in my opinion. Recommendations? Budget goes up to $300 USD
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>>60382834
Bosshifi wood headphones our meizu hd50
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>>60382708
Perhaps to do with HD650 not really being better than HD600. That seems to be the consensus among reviews.
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Hopefully you all know a bit more about audio than the average fucker on /g/. Anyway I've suddenly been getting this awful grainy noise on my left headphones. I don't get it on my bookshelf speakers, instead the left channel is dead silent even with a signal present and it's only when I crank the gain up really high that I hear anything which also sounds noisy. I tested my headphones on another device later and confirmed them to be working fine.

So I investigated further. I got my oscilloscope and probed the left audio output and was surprised to find pic related. Why is there a 330kHz 0.5V sawtooth wave riding on a -1V DC offset on my left audio out?

The DC offset explains the grainy noise and distortion. The reason it probably doesn't happen on my bookshelf speakers is probably due to the amplifier output being AC coupled, no idea why the motherboard output amp and or buffer is not AC coupled.

Anyway what do you think happened and can this be fixed?
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>>60382708
>if im going to spend $2 I might as well just spend $300
Lol, k
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I had Creative Aurvana Live for 4 years. Internet told me back then that they are the best 100$ HP because they have hardware from 200$ model. Was that true? They started to give slight rattling noises on some frequencies, so I am thinking of replacing them. Is there anything better for this price tag or should I buy them again? I am a music pleb and this are my first headphones so I don't know how they differ, though I can tell that they have much better sound than my wirelles Philips SHC8535/10
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>>60383197
I have a fair bit of money and like nice things. What's the problem?
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>>60383270
They use the same drivers from the Denon 1001 or at least that's the speculation from Tyll's video on on them. You could replace them or get 558's, SHP9500's, CB-1/MM185's, XPT100/HM5's.
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>>60383044
Here's the spectrum. You can see the peaks around 330kHz and harmonics to the left and right of it as well as the audible noise on the lower end which is all integer multiples of 7kHz.

Sorry meant to post earlier but got caught up watching a fight at the neighbors house. Some college age guys and girls were arguing, some guy pushed another one down the stairs and he wasn't moving so someone called the cops and here I was getting the fucking popcorn ready to watch someone get fucking tazed or arrested and what do these idiots do? They all fucking cover for each other. "oh he just ran out the door and slipped" and you know what? The cops fucking bought it hook line and sinker. Like four cop cars here and the all fucking left. Barely asked any questions or anything. Don't even know if the guy regained consciousness. Ridiculous.
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>>60383373
You might want an external dac/amp for your headphones
>>
What is the most comfortable set of headphones? My head is sensitive, even from something supposedly comfy like sennheiser hd558
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>>60383541
hd800
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>>60383544
>hd800
>$1000
please <$300
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>>60383373
you can tell better what's causing it if you use a wavelet transform instead of looking at the fourier transform. that will tell you what scale the problem is happening at and you can correct component wise from there.
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>>60383541
HD600
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>>60383752
he said comfortable, fuck off clampheiser
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>>60383815
What clamp?

Oh, you mean when they're new. That goes away in a week or two of use.
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>>60383998
stop shilling your garbage already
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>>60381017
At what voltage level?

>>60381489
You really shouldn't make that sort of deduction from THD plots.
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>>60383526
>You might want an external dac/amp for your headphones

I'm not sure that will help much. Wouldn't that still need to be connected to the PC line out to receive the signal in the first place? If the problem occurs on the motherboard I would imagine it would be passed to the DAC unless it has filtering on board. I mean it'd remove the DC offset and if it has a low pass filter with a cut off just above 20kHz or so then it'd take the 330kHz signal out but not the 7kHz, 14kHz, and 21kHz harmonics.

For now I jury riigged a little converter with two TRS jacks. I just have the good right audio channel connected to the L and R pins on the output basically making the audio mono and removing the bad channel.

I'll consider an amp but if I was gonna go that route I'd probably just build it myself anyway. I have the impedance, power, and other specs for my headphones. It wouldn't be hard to come up with some suitable driver circuitry.

>>60383622
My scope doesn't have that functionality. I wouldn't even have FFT if it wasn't for an add-on module that fortunately came with the scope.
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>>60384063
Some amps are USB like the Fulla 2 and can still power speakers. Not sure how well though for just headphones, it should be fine.
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USB DAC AMP should be a must for any not shit headphones. fuck sake
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>>60384136
Fair enough, I'll look into it.
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>>60382306
MONKS ARW SHIT DO YOU MEME IDIOTS HAVE EARS?

faaeal 64ohm are superior in every way and they are only 2 dollars more.
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>>60383044
DC offset doesn't sound like anything. It only really makes itself noticeable on disconnects.
It doesn't seem like the 7kHz harmonics are the main issue either. You didn't say anything about a steady sound.

>>60384136
>power speakers
Line out.

>>60383622
Just my experience, but finding scopes with STFT or wavelet stuff is a fair bit more difficult than standard FFT. But how are we making use of the time-frequency analysis?
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>Budget
300 yuros max, around 200 is ideal
>Location
Italy
>Source
Fiio X1
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
whatever
>Comfort level
As long as they're not painful everything's fine
>Sound signature
I would go for neutral, but I enjoy some bass
>Past headphones
Shure se-215
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new thread

>>60385545

>>60385545

>>60385545
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