/WT/ Watch Thread

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>>60184097
Do you like it in gold?

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>>60184174

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>>60184174

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What kind of watches should I give to my girl to get her into watches?

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>>60184221
Women can't get into watches because:
1. There are few decent women's watches
2. Women are not sentient

>>60184221
An anon in these threads got a vintage women's girard perregaux. I'm sure there are vintage pieces from other makers you could look into too.

>>60184221
Vintage is the best bet like >>60184328 said. Vintage stuff is hip.

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post hi-beats

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>>60184221

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>>60184349
'Kay

>>60184221
although to be honest, in terms of women's designer watches, kate spade has some fairly tasteful stuff.

>>60184292
Which are decent, though?
>>60184328
Those are gorgeous, I wish I could afford to put one on her wrist.
>>60184344
I'm afraid I don't know what makes to look at, is the issue.
>>60184364
That's quite the piece
>>60184377
She's a fan of their purses so my first thought was a Spade piece to companion them.

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WAY/WT/?

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>>60184409

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>>60184221
The vintage Grand Seiko 19GS. Without exaggeration the greatest women's production watch ever made. It's the only hi-beat women's mechanical watched ever produced.

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>>60184373

>>60184437
Very nice! When did a /wt/ goer get a Spring Drive GS?

>>60184458
Someone posted their snow frake here not all that long ago too m8.

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>>60184458
I don't think I'm the only one but I've had it a few months. Companion piece to the 5S21.

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>>60184409
>>60184442
Classy.

>>60184476
Spring Drive webm when? How do you like it?

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>>60184221

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>>60184409

>>60184174
I do not famalam. Gold watches in general look bad imo.

>>60184528
Post pictures of that gorgeous Heuer more regularly please. Damn that's a sexy watch.

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>>60184454

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>>60184493
Just for you anon.

It's a little bigger and heavier than I tend to prefer, but the finishing on the hands and dial is amazing. The beveled edges of the hands reflect the light beautifully. The back is also very nicely done. The bracelet is a total scratch magnet for some reason.

>>60184433
Shut up! Shut up!

Quartz >>> Mechashit

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>>60184658
>this faggot again

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>>60184349
prominent peaks at 50Hz and its overtones

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do you all hate Seiko's mecha-quartz movements?

>pic related, VK64 movement

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>>60184846
They're okay. Having a heart cam reset is pretty cool to be honest. The incongruity of the chrono hand ticking at 5Hz and the running second ticking at 1Hz simultaneously messes with me - I would probably have preferred a high-beat running seconds to match.

They went through a period (still going?) of being in every kickstarter watch of the week, a lot of which (obviously) had some sad design decisions, which soured me a bit on the movement through no fault of its own.

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I sawthis "Panzera Breuer" watch on massdrop for 250$, supposedly (((50%))) off.

Apparently it has a Miyota movement and with the Bauhaus dial and the milanese it looks kinda like the 1000$ Junghans Max Bill automatic.

Is it worth it?

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>>60184996
And the Junghans Max Bill for comparison.

>>60184996
which miyota?

looks not really super legible and the date window is small and awkward. Would also recommend a careful inspection of the dimensions as the pervasive bauhaus watch wears like a dinner place, and those lugs look (from that one picture) very unforgiving.

>>60184996
>those gaudy indices
do you even bauhaus

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>>60185015
> mineral glass
> 44mm
> miyota 8xxx
> almost nomos-tier lugs
hard pass, to tell you the truth.

>>60184097
That engraving looks nice

>>60185104
phew you were being sarcastic, I almost shat myself

>>60185175
...what?

>>60184751
What brand is this?

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>>60184586
I'll try to get more non-potato pics, have this in the meantime.

>>60184349
my nigger this is fun to watch

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>>60184658
>I actually have impersonators now

You're not wrong though, quartz is far superior to luddite garbage

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>>60185669
hoptroff

That's their limited edition atomic pocketwatch. They make CSAC watches.

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>>60185750
incredible watch

>tfw no montbrillant
why live

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>no Wave Ceptor in this thread

it looks like /g/ is living in the last century when it comes to watches

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>>60185846
>not oceanus

>>60185876
> TOUGH MVT.
just

fyi I LOVE TO SUCK COCKS

>>60184846
I like mine, now that I have a real mechanical one though it just isn't the same.

>>60185876
>ANUS

>>60186764
thanks anon I knew I could count on you

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Can't help love this slavshit's simplicity.

>>60187259
i can

I currently have a F-91W due to the meme factor and cost. Though my current F-91W loses time fairly quickly (approx 5 - 10 seconds over about 2 weeks).

Suggestions on a cheap, but accurate/consistent digital watch? I prefer seconds and a digital display due to my job.

>>60188061
Casio W201.

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What's /wt/ opinion on this Bulova and it's movement?

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>>60188061
I know this sound strange but if you got it on eBay it could be a fake F -91W. If you hold down the button on the right it should display 'CASIO', if it doesn't it's fake.

I accidentally bought a fake and it kept shit time.

>>60188615
No idea about the movement
Great-looking dial
Terrible case
Strap is meh, but you'd change it anyway

>>60189263
see that little U below the resist text? that probably means it's real
also try holding all the buttons it should display all the characters (if it's a real one)
afterwards press any button and it'll return to normal

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>>60188615
>sweeping seconds hand
>+/- 10 seconds per year
>battery life is only 2 years

That case is pretty ugly and they tend to be fuck huge though.

t. Accutron II owner.

>>60189678
I know, the pic is to show the CASIo thing. Or did you mean that reply for >>60188061 ?

>>60189692
yes

>>60189683
>they tend to be fuck huge though.
This.

What the fuck were they thinking when they drew that moon watch?

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>>60189716
>What the fuck were they thinking when they drew that moon watch?
BIG

>>60189766
BLACK

>>60189770
BULOVA

>>60184846
I like them, but I don't like the running seconds or the 24hr hand.

>>60189263
Hacker

>>60189263
>"Casio is a shitty quartz" deniers
KEK

>divers watch
>mid sized (50mm L2L max)
>400 dollaridoos

what's the nicest I can get?

>>60190372

Save another $300 and get one of these


http://halioswatches.com

>>60190413
>halitosis no name mushroom brand that releases god knows when

no thanks

>>60184174

gold is literally the only case material that goes with a green dial.

>>60184174
Do you shave your arms?

>>60190450
Both the puck and seaforth are going up for preorder mid-may. The laguna is available right now. A trivially quick read of the site would reveal this.

>>60188615
I have one of those, it's my beater watch for wearing at the gym, doing chores involving nasty chemicals, and outdoor activities. I've had it for 8 months and it's cumulatively lost 3 seconds over that time. For $100 or so, it's hard to complain about the looks. But, about those looks. It's even uglier IRL than in the pictures so don't expect something you can wear and be presentable. The lume is absolute shit.

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Hydroed my GWM5610, and I'm pretty happy it turned out well.

>>60190545

pretty sure his point is that this is an unknown brand, and there is no reason to treat its promises of release dates as anything but a work of fantasy

>>60190711
Why would you hydro a watch that's already 20bar resistant?

Also I wouldn't be surprised if filling a G-Shock actually hurts its shock resistance somehow.

SAD!

>>60184221
Skeleton. She'll be interested in seeing the mechanisms

Looking for a mechanical watch with a blue face and dial, and a scalloped bezel in the Omega style. Budget is $200. The only thing I could find is the alpha watch which are too much of a knock off for my tastes.

>>60190819
Why would you AR coat sapphire? It is already see through enough

SAD!

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Explain in no less than 500 words why would you waste money on a Seiko, Vostok or Orient.

>>60190881
Because it makes fags like you mad, and that alone makes then better than a shitter Rolex.

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>>60190867
Hawe fun saturation diving with you're hydro G-Shock then! :^)

Oh wait, I bet you take it off to wash your hands :^)

>>60190881
They are good watches for the price and hold their value quite well too (at least the memes like SKX, Bambino and Amphibia)

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>>60190908
Jokes on you, I actually am a diver.

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>>60190930
Sure you are :^)

Sink diving doesn't count X^D

>>60190952
>>60190930
>>60190908
>>>/a/
>>>/r9k/

These threads are fucking toxic now. There used to be more wristshots, collection shots and actual horological discussion.

>>60190372
need answer for this /wt/

>>60190545
""""""""May"""""""""""""
""""""""available"""""""""

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>>60191006
Kys

>>60190881
Seiko is one of the greatest production watchmakers of all time. Denying that just displays a person's own horological ignorance.

>>60190464
maybe if you're a leprechaun lmao

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>40.5mm

I'd have bought one if they were 38mm.

>>60191042
You missed the last couple of threads where there actually was a fair bit of horological discussion, but yeah, there has been an enormous amount of trolling lately.

>>60190372
>>60191065
Seiko turtle in your favorite colorway.

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and then there's this gold monstrosity.

>would have considered this as well at 38mm, with stainless steel case/indices

>>60190881
Seiko shouldn't be confused with Orient and Vostok

Orient and Vostok have never done anything new, it's just repackaging other people's work in an ugly package

Most Seikos are ugly but then again a particularly good looking Orient is on par with an average Seiko

Vostok are just ugly across the board

>>60190913
>hold their value
>a $100 watch
Stop pretending your disposable watch is an "investment"

>>60191111
W I T N E S S E D

>>60190372
Seiko skx009
Seiko srp637
Seiko turtle (they've crashed in value, you can get them for $200 now).

>>60191156
>Stop pretending your disposable watch is an "investment"
Nobody said that, idiot. But they do hold their value well, and that's a fact.

>>60190881
>Seiko
>Orient

>inhouse
>workhorse movements that set world standards
>attainable Japan made models
>horological history that eternally BTFO the swiss so bad they banned them from competitions
>selling point is not based on white people marketing brand bullshit

>Vostok

>it's a waste of money
>sub $50 soviet era cereal box toys that has questionable diving capability if that appeals to you

>>60191106

dude, it's not an heirloom, it's just a cocktail time. 40 mm will remain well within the bounds of style until long after you decide having it serviced a second time isn't worth the bother. by that point they'll be putting 4R35s in SKXes and 5s.

>>60191071
Fuck off, virgin. Nobdy wants your anime crap here

>>60191190
>workhorse movements
Tristano spotted. GTFO and shill some more Squale

>>60191239
take your pills

I never even mentioned squale. you're too retarded for this thread. go repost senseless memes on /pol/

>>60191190
Vostoks are fucking based. Can't compete in that price range, the automatic movements even have hand winding.

>>60191193
what in god's name are you talking about, heirloom?

you god damned Romanian gypsy troll buttfags are shitting up our threads again. get out.

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Is it really this easy to harvest (You)s on /wt/?

>>60191288

surely you're not saying that 40mm is too big for you RIGHT NOW, with the prevailing fashion trend, are you? that would be fucking insane unless you have like tiny girl wrists.

>>60190711
Nice, what oil did you use?

>>60191267
nope. vostoks and other Russian trash are a meme.

and unfortunate trend. like getting tricked into buying "luxury Chinese watches".

good god.

>>60191307
what in god's name is the prevailing fashion trend?

are we still on the huge, gaudy monstrosities, or have you wretched homosexuals made a 180 and embraced 30mm women's watches now?

>>60191314
Tell me why they are shit. They have real horological history, cost almost nothing and you get a reliable, cool rugged piece.

>>60191358

40mm is not a "huge gaudy monstrosity", and neither you, nor your pile of rustbucket 34mm out-of-beat daini shittiers and poly-blend flannels will change that.

>>60191292
it's not /b/, it's a whole different creature entirely.

>hambeast sperglord watch-Nazis (literal in each sense)

>>60191363
>~100 years of being behind the curve = "horological history"

You people are fucking insane

>>60191363
false
>>60191376
I prefer 36-38mm Pateks.

>>60191392
Like ussr in general?

>>60191405
>false
Wow, great argument bud

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Just completed this today. 18 jewel 2209 movement, probably late 70's, early 80's.

Replaced the dial, repainted the bezel, relumed the hands and dial with Luminova (the nice brown original lume couldn't be saved) and gave it a full service. Amplitude is not too good for a freshly cleaned and oiled movement, around 230° and accuracy is meh, but if this beat to shit, abused by slavs movement stays within a minute a day I'm happy.

>>60191526
shitskin

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>>60185846
It's OK senpai I've got you covered <3

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Also here's my grandfather's watch I found, and the Cosmotron movement I'm working on. I managed to remove the rubber that was melted on the dial at 3 o'clock without doing too much damage.

>>60191592
No, not really. Just very yellow lights.

Post wrist, you're probably some mutt tho.

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And finally a pupper.

>>60191607
I wonder why so many of /wt/'s grandpas wore slavshit. Are you all unironically Slavs?

>>60191768
It's only the East-Yuropoors that don't have piece of shit parents/grandparents.

>>60191607
Really excited to see the progress on the cosmotron, keep posting anon

>>60191768
>>60191803
can confirm, recently acquired my granpas old raketa from 70-80s. still werks

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>>60191376
>Requesting plaidposting
Happy to help out.

>>60191213
Fuck off back to lelddit and stay go

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The Seiko Dolce is about $360 at the moment. Thermocompensated quartz, sub-35mm. Are there any similar watches (small, quartz, similar aesthetics) for a lower price? I don't mind spending this much on a quartz, but since it is a quartz and I don't have any 10SPY-critical day-to-day stuff, I'm willing to consider other options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOD3pCTCn24

>>60191311
Silicon treadmill oil.

>>60192128
>>60192168
Wow, these are very similar watches. What's the case diameter on yours? Nice strap pairing btw.

>>60190711
looks great bro
nice strap too, i have a similar one but with green instead of grey. I'm gonna dye it with some black Rit dye as it came far too brightly coloured

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>>60192191
Thanks. Dimensions as per filename.

>>60192168
>>60192128
Are you guys homosexual or accountants or something?

How can you spend money on something so excruciatingly boring?

>>60192200
Thanks. The straps alright, I do like how snug it makes the watch feel. You should post pics after you dye yours

>>60191363
Because they aren't reliable, you roll the dice every time to get a properly functioning movement.

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>>60192265
That's 7.5" wrist, 41.2mm lug to lug, 36.1mm case diameter.

>>60192271
I don't find it boring. I have some less conservative watches as well.

>>60192271
>Are you guys homosexual or accountants or something?
>or accountants
kek
>How can you spend money on something so excruciatingly boring?
I have other watches, but it's actually hard to find something this 'boring' nowadays. It's fun to break the trend a bit and wear something understated. Most watches are a bit garish or ostentatious, so boring and simple can be nice depending on your style/etc. Depends.

Keep in mind that these are wrist fedoras we're talking about here.

>>60192168
>$360
Not really, you have to factor in shipping (maybe $25 from Japan) plus the cost of a replacement strap because that strap is fucking horrible. And it's a weird size because Seiko is run by idiots, so enjoy paying $150 for a custom strap because no one makes a 17mm straight untapered strap that doesn't look like shit or like it's for a woman's watch

So, really, you're out like $550 for that thing, realistically

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>>60192460
I can buy one on ebay for $360 shipped, and a solid Viet croc strap will run about $30. Not sure how that affects warranty
>150 for a custom strap

>>60192490
does it come with a fake CITES tag so I don't get a fine from customs?

>>60192502
How does the Seamaster Cosmic movement compare to the Constellation?
How far are they apart in terms of years?

>>60192528
>does it come with a fake CITES tag so I don't get a fine from customs?
Nope

>>60192502
>>60192530
Oh shit I just realized the Constellation is a tuning fork model.
Then pls tell me about the Seamaster's movement.

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>>60192547
The cosmic is a c.1967 (if I remember correctly) Omega cal 613. Right now it's running between about -2 to -6. Handwind. Unique date quickset - pulling the crown out past the time set position (really far - the crown pulls about 5mm) advances the date by one day. Power reserve well over 40 hours.

Absolutely fantastic watch though a pain to service since the movement has to come out the front. On the plus side the case design makes it sit really well on the wrist.

>>60192176
Did you have it around already? All the low viscosity skilicone oils I've seen are sold by the gallon.

>>60192460
>>60192490
also where do you see that this has 17mm lugs? can't confirm

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>>60192490
>>60192695
Nvm I see it listed now, what the fuck Seiko

>>60192176
>>60192690
/r/ing good cheap one-off source of some shitty oil I'll probably never use again
can I pick some up for like $5 anywhere?
don't want to use food oil as they tend to expire

>>60190711
>Hydroed my GWM5610, and I'm pretty happy it turned out well.
Can you explain the process? Did you do anything special? How do you avoid air bubbles?

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w-what is going on
>mfw they discontinue the f91w

>>60192767
There is another seller that has decided to sell it for slightly cheaper

>>60192842
has been dropping like this for a while now, $7, IEDs have never been cheaper

>>60192749
I would imagine you immerse the entire watch in the oil and put the back back on under it, that's how I would do it at least.

>>60192896
>I would imagine you immerse the entire watch in the oil and put the back back on under it, that's how I would do it at least.
I've seen people do this and it produces small airbubbles as a result of air buildup around certain corners, in crevices, etc. I imagine heating the oil might help, not sure.

>>60192271
>boring
>mechanical marvel that serves as a daily invaluable function

>>60193080
>mechanical marvel
lol

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will I get aids?

>>60192928
You shake it around in the oil, turn it

>>60193137
Not worth it.
I've never seen a watch from India that was worth the asking price.

>>60193137
Just get a new 5, they're not much more expensive.

>>60193137
>item location: Delhi
You might get dysentery from all the poo they use to lubricate the movement.

>>60193178
Are there any models with full lume dials?

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>The SACM171 has an 8J41 movement which is thermocompensated and has a factory rating of 10 SPY. Unlike Seiko's 9F range, the 8J range has the disadvantage that the user cannot adjust the rate. Once the watch drifts off spec., only a Seiko service centre may be able to help you.

Can someone tell me what this means and if it is factual? "Adjust the rate" = ?

if this is true, it sounds like I should just save and put the $400ish toward a Grand Seiko instead.

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>>60193104
>A small wrist mounted machine using only springs and gears
>That keeps time to within 99.99%+ accuracy
>Not a mechanical marvel
What did he mean by this?

>>60193137
Never EVER buy watches on eBay from India. E V E R.

>>60193271
one of the watches in question is quartz and the other one is kinda unimpressive to autistic people (the guy you're responding to)

>>60193287
why?
I bought a HMT watch years ago and it still works

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>>60193289
The other one is a 1975 King Seiko Special 5256-8010. A KS Special grade 52xx movement certainly does qualify as a mechanical marvel, as it's one of the best series produced automatic movements of all time.

Also that one in particular is a lot better than 99.99% accuracy. Pic related.

>>60193137
Just out of curiosity, what's the model number?

>>60193257
Higher end quartz movements have a little regulator knob, the 8J41 is a derivative of a much older HEQ movement that didn't have as many capabilities, which is why it's now been repurposed in an entry level watch

>>60193271
It's quite possibly the least complex machine in your everyday life other than maybe a hand-crank can opener

It's only the fact that it's simple enough for you to understand without having an advanced degree in something that you are able to experience that fleeting sensation of "OOHHHHH! so THAT'S how it works!" and then jizz all over your computer monitor because it's the first time in your life you ever thought about How Things Work™

>>60193289
That's an odd thing to say. Autistic? Autistic people are prone to having deep personal relationships with inanimate objects. Watches, trains, and so on.

>>60193343
>I check my watch multiple times a day against a trusted reference because of the inevitability that it will seize into a mess of rancid oils
Mechfags, when will they learn

>>60193366
>It's quite possibly the least complex machine in your everyday life other than maybe a hand-crank can opener

Yes, that's why high quality mechanical movements are so easily and cheaply made, and why their production process is so amenable to automation by comparison to the manufacturing of most other mostly or totally mechanical objects people encounter on a regular basis.

>>60193398
(You)

>>60193427
You say that in a way that leads me to suspect you think it is in some way not true. And yet, all of it is, in fact, true. High quality movements are shat out by the hundreds of thousands every year by any given manufacturer. And yet people have this idea that the inside of the Sellita factory looks like Hajime Asaoka's workshop. They WANT to believe that's the reality.

>>60193366
>Higher end quartz movements have a little regulator knob, the 8J41 is a derivative of a much older HEQ movement that didn't have as many capabilities, which is why it's now been repurposed in an entry level watch
I see, thanks. Is this just a matter of convenience or does it mean that one watch will actually need servicing by Seiko when the time comes while the other won't?

>>60193525
It won't "need servicing" ever. Realistically its service life will be measured in battery changes. If in the worst case it starts to drift wildly off spec, you'll be like in 20SPM territory at worst, which is still light years beyond the average mechfag luddite garbage. I wouldn't worry about it, by the time you're there, the case will be scratched to hell and you'll need to redo all the gaskets and you'll be thirsty for a new wrist fedora. By then we may have CSACs that are small enough to fit in a reasonable size wrist fedora and thermocompensation or ultra high frequency quartz crystals will be ubiquitous for low end watches.

And hopefully all the mechfags will have died of beetus by then :^)

>>60193525
It really doesn't matter one bit- I seriously doubt anyone is going to regulate a 10s/year quartz movement. I would not worry about the lack of one at all. A regulator knob has nothing to do with servicing.

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>he doesn't appreciate both quartz and mechanical watches

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>>60193569
>>60193574
> I wouldn't worry about it, by the time you're there, the case will be scratched to hell and you'll need to redo all the gaskets and you'll be thirsty for a new wrist fedora
Well, I know, but let's say by some miracle I don't get sick of this thing and I keep wearing it and pass it on to my kids who pass it on to their grandkids. Yeah, it's just a quartz watch, and I know this is unrealistic. But hypothetically, are we talking a serious difference in maintainability here between those two movements? I'm still a little unclear on that.
>And hopefully all the mechfags will have died of beetus by then :^)
o u

>I seriously doubt anyone is going to regulate a 10s/year quartz movement.
>A regulator knob has nothing to do with servicing.
Can you clarify these two things? Why wouldn't someone regulate a 10s/year quartz?

>>60193625
This. Stop the fucking cringey fanboy fighting, idiots.

>>60193625
price on the chowder?

>>60193625
>Co.Ward
>Swiss Made in London

and

>Water Resist

>>60193625
Nice CoWard, fag

>>60193643
Both movements are jeweled, which is the most important thing in regards to longevity and serviceability. As I said, lack of regulation has absolutely nothing to do with maintainability. You are NEVER going to need to regulate a movement with +/-10s year accuracy.

>>60193649
the Christopher Ward?
think I paid just under £200 because it was old stock. With CW they always have sales and they send me voucher codes every two months so don't buy one for full price

>>60193664
thanks :)

>>60193651
yep I know it's stupid

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>he has a 6.75x8 ligne disposable shitter with no jewels and nylon gears
>not a superior vintage quartz with gears, plates and jewels of mechanical quality and size.

>>60193643
Between what two movements? The one in a Dolce vs the one in a current-generation GS quartz?

I mean, keep in mind Seiko won't guarantee parts for ANY movement past 10 years. The most likely thing that's going to kill your watch before (or after) your grandkids get their grubby hands on it is corrosion. The quartz going out of spec is the least of your worries. Get the case pressure tested after every battery change otherwise sweat from your wrist is going to work its way in there and fuck the whole thing.

>>60193713
>under £200
well that's not bad, I think it looks nice, even if the logo is stupid

especially assuming you actually dive, 300m for £200 isn't too shabby right?

>>60193718
what is the arrow pointing to?

>>60193643
You wouldn't ever need to regulate it because you are never going to notice that it's off by 10 seconds every year (which is the worst case scenario). Regulation is useful for mechanical watches that may be off by 20 seconds per day. You have to set your watch twice a year due to DST anyway.

>>60193732
>Between what two movements? The one in a Dolce vs the one in a current-generation GS quartz?
Yes
> The most likely thing that's going to kill your watch before (or after) your grandkids get their grubby hands on it is corrosion
So, basically, don't worry about the difference between these two movements because other things will assuredly come up before the end of the Dolce's movement's life? Honestly it seems very cheap for what it seems to offer—everything else (of similar size, style, materials) is like $1200+ if I buy used... I just don't want to spend $400 on something that is far inferior to a $1200 option—I'd rather just go with the better option in the first place.
>>60193769
>You wouldn't ever need to regulate it because you are never going to notice that it's off by 10 seconds every year (which is the worst case scenario). Regulation is useful for mechanical watches that may be off by 20 seconds per day. You have to set your watch twice a year due to DST anyway.
Makes sense

>>60193769
>You wouldn't ever need to regulate it because you are never going to notice that it's off by 10 seconds every year (which is the worst case scenario).
Won't it fall out of spec and get perpetually worse though? I assumed that was the point.

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>>60193366
>It's quite possibly the least complex machine in your everyday life other than maybe a hand-crank can opener
>It's only the fact that it's simple enough for you to understand without having an advanced degree in something that you are able to experience that fleeting sensation of "OOHHHHH! so THAT'S how it works!" and then jizz all over your computer monitor because it's the first time in your life you ever thought about How Things Work™
Some projection happening ITT?

>>60193741
I'm an armchair diver but I do go swimming and/or the beach every now and then so it's nice to have a watch that will do where ever I need to go

>>60193834
well you should use the watch as an excuse to take up actual scuba diving because you can swim just fine with a $50 casio

expand your life anon

>>60193514
>Sellita
So, leaving aside that I wouldn't consider Sellita to be high quality, I will note that far less than hundreds of thousands of the SW300 or ETA 2892-A2 (the only movement either makes that I would consider high quality) each year, and that the majority of the assembly and especially adjustment labour required for top and Chronometer grade versions is still done by hand and cannot be automated.

Grand Seiko only makes ~5,000 watches a year, Nomos ~20,000, Omega's Co-Axial is not high quality, and so that leaves Rolex as the only maker with the technical capability to manufacture high quality movements on a hundreds of thousands per year basis, and even they still use a lot of hand assembly and adjustment labour.

>>60193841
it's something I've thought of taking up and I'd like to start diving once I finish university and actually have a job

>>60193782
It seems like a very good deal because it is. But keep in mind it has a fugly crown, and the fucked up 17mm lug width, and it doesn't have the zaratsu polishing and other nice details you get on a real GS. And since it is a cheaper watch to begin with, you are very, very unlikely to invest in the kind of maintenance plan that you would if you bought a $2500 quartz GS.

>>60193821
Nope. Just truth. Sorry if it hurts your feelings.

>>60193855
I like how you're drawing arbitrary lines around "quality" and "not quality" in order to make an ambitious reach for a point that can't realistically be made by any reasonable person

Gerrymandering of watch movements for the purpose of rationalizing your wrist fedora fetish. Nice!

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>>60193873
>Just truth.
More like idiocy. You'd have to be a fucking retard to believe that. It shows a complete lack of understanding of the idea of complexity and how it's influenced by context.

>>60193873
>It seems like a very good deal because it is. But keep in mind it has a fugly crown, and the fucked up 17mm lug width, and it doesn't have the zaratsu polishing and other nice details you get on a real GS.
Is this on the hour markers? Is it very noticeable in person?

And since it is a cheaper watch to begin with, you are very, very unlikely to invest in the kind of maintenance plan that you would if you bought a $2500 quartz GS.
Can you give me a rundown on what this would include? Battery, pressure test, maybe some oil and gaskets once or twice?

I guess I'm just trying to determine which one would give me the most pleasure per buck and which is more of an 'investment' (neither) if I do treat them that way

2.5k isn't going to kill me but it's a far cry from a 400 watch

>>60193743
Nothing really, I got the pic off the net.

>>60193914
Just get whichever one you like better, man. The GS will hold its value better, but you are talking about handing it down, so that wouldn't matter. Lightly used quartz GSes are only $1300 or so, just get one of those.

>>60193894
Most of the labour that cannot be automated away is in the assembly and especially in the adjustment of the movements, as a result a top or.chonometer grade ETA requires a LOT more hand labour than a base or elabore.

Basically, you can mostly automate making movements accurate to ~10-20s a day, but you have to do a lot hand inspection, assembly and adjustment for movements intended to pass COSC Chronometer type standards.

Rolex is literally the only watch company able to manufacture movements to that quality standard in huge volumes, and most of the techniques they use to enable that are closely guarded secrets.

>>60193912
>it's complex because I say it is
>posted from my facebook machine that I "built" by putting cards into slots
>I totally understand computers guys! I'm a computer scientist
This is what tripfags actually believe
>>60193914
If you've never seen a GS up close, you won't care. If you see them side by side, the Dolce will look like the cheap watch that it is.

Yes, pressure test and stuff like that. The cost depends on who is doing the work.

>>60193980
>something isn't complex because I don't understand it fully
well done.

>>60193980
>If you've never seen a GS up close, you won't care. If you see them side by side, the Dolce will look like the cheap watch that it is.
Helpful answer, thanks. Is that something to do with some subtleties of the dial/markers?

>>60193782
>I just don't want to spend $400 on something that is far inferior to a $1200 option—I'd rather just go with the better option in the first place.
The reason GS are much better isn't the movement, it's the attention to detail and the finishing

>>60193912
>"I need attention!! please notice me, I'm a tripfag!!!"

>>60194044
>The reason GS are much better isn't the movement, it's the attention to detail and the finishing
elaborate pls, genuinely interested and curious. I know I could google it but if you have any input that would be cool.

>>60194042
The hands and markers are the stand-out feature from Grand Seiko, unmatched in other affordable watches. The cases are also nicer than your average Seiko, but some brands are better.

>>60193980
https://youtu.be/2rnZhkTINV4

Such easy. Much simple.

>>60194074
Well, other than looking at reviews on Hodinkee and the like, where they take close-up pictures in good quality, you should really go to a Seiko boutique to see them in the flesh. They aren't as flashy as other brands, but they stand up to the closest scrutiny.

>>60194121
I think the Dolce is JDM which means a boutique here in the US wouldn't carry any, right?

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>>60194121
royal orient is surprisingly amazing, very comparable to GS

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>>60194194
>>>60194121
>royal orient is surprisingly amazing, very comparable to GS
LMAO

>>60194264
can you explain your laughing_bitch.jpg please, is Royal Orient not good?

>>60194264
>goes on /g/
>is a brand whore
go figure

>>60194282
There are very nice if you can purchase one, but they're hard to get unless you go to Japan or Rakuten. The user who took the picture recorded +/- 0. You be the judge.

>>60194139
correct
>>60194338
a one-off rate measurement says nothing, you can regulate a fucking seagull to 0spd if you work hard enough

>>60190711
Nice strap and adapter combo.

>>60192744
Mineral oil for butcher's blocks.

>>60191314
China can produce quality items like anyone else, just most places contracting the manufacturer doesn't give a fuck about QC and want as cheap as possible. Enjoy getting cucked by Swiss Jews.

>>60192282
Now that's the meme. A few vocal minority complaints does not represent reliability as a whole. They have an objectively durable construction and sell thousands. No worse than Seiko 5.

>>60194403
>Mineral oil for butcher's blocks.
>for butcher's blocks
anything specific I should search? amazon -> mineral oil pulls up a ton of shit, but for butcher's blocks...?

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>>60193912
Irony.
Fuck off Ninefag.

>>60194425
mineral oil is actually a mild laxative and is used in equine care
you might be able to get some in a horse care shop
I've also heard that pharmacies carry it in the US

>>60194472
well hell it sounds like I can oil up my watch and have a fun time afterward, thanks for the tips

>>60194425
Anything written as food grade can be used on a cutting board or butcher block.

>>60194447
>Irony
Someone doesn't know what that means.

>>60194515
>Someone doesn't know what that means.
*teleports behind you*
*smashes you with an iron crowbar*
that's what it means, kid..

>>60194527
>mfw
http://i.4cdn.org/f/normies%20BTFO.swf

>>60194515
There goes your grammar assumptions again. :^)
Calling someone else a retard... Oh boy... And a complete lack of understanding... Wow, where have I seen THAT before???

>>60194591
>>60194515
do you guys ever shut the fuck up
there's one person (1) actively talking about watches ITT and the only other people are being dipshits
who cares about this inane bs
just shut up

>>60194620
I'll stop when he does. :^)

>>60190711
I have to say, that NATO strap colour combination is great
you've convinced me to get the strap adaptors

>>60194620
Just report anyone using emoticons. It's indecipherable text.

Let's discuss current mainline movements:

What's /wt/'s opinion on the latest Omega co-ax calibres vs. the latest Rolex innovations?

E.g. the 8900/8800 from Omega vs the Rolex 3235? (or 3255 for that matter)

Is one or the other clearly just better overall?

>>60194750
not even close to a $0.10 chink quartz movement

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What movement is this?
It hacks/handwind. Pretty thin too.

>>60194767
>$.10 chink quartz
these don't actually keep time though

>>60194844
they keep time as well as your mechanical movements

>>60194909
I'm not a mechfag, just pointing out that cheap chink quartzes don't really keep time. There's a bottom standard and that is timex/casio, the no-name chink stuff is kinda worthless, losing minutes a day etc

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>>60194750
You know it's weird, I honestly hate Swatch and while Omega is their least terrible brand, I rather hate them as well. But I do like their co-axial movements both from a finishing standard and I like it when companies try things new. The implementation would be fine if they sold fucking parts to people, because at least then you could have an independent watchmaker fix your Omega Seamaster Man in the Fucking Marketing Department when the escapement shit the bed, but as it stands it's unserviceable.

Rolex movements are beautiful but not "fancy" which I think suits them as I view them as quintessentially masculine watches, and their beefy bridges, plates, gears, etc. are all befitting of a luxury tool watch for people that actually beat their watches to shit. I also like how even though they're mass produced, Rolex still does hand assembly and finishing work on their movements which is why they're so fucking impressively accurate timekeepers. Even the choice of movement they make "feels" like high horology in a tool watch package, as free sprung balances are an absolutely bitch to make period, let alone mass produce, and the closest company that makes 100% of their movements free sprung is Patek Philippe (which I also admire greatly).

>>60194812

Pretty sure its a 2824

>>60192731
lol this guy lives by me omg

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>>60193625
Every collection should have a mixture of mechanical and quartz watches imo.

>>60194403
>preferring Chinese-made watches to Swiss luxury watches

incredible.

>>60194750
Omega: Not that many merits to coaxial, but the double barrels are a nice touch

Rolex:
Great no-frills movement, but so is a chronometer grade ETA2892

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>>60195504
Country of origin does not matter, taste does.

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>>60195533
>"omega's co-axial's meh."
>"meh rolex is okay. on par with ETA."

srsly

>>60194194
>311

>>60195571
oh god is that a New York Yankees watch?

>>60194194
How sad. Those poor Orient dials. Power reserve and all kinds of dross.

SAD!

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Which one, /wt/?

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391761103882
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/401312288468
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391761247482

Did these come from the factory with the decals, or did someone decide the apply the decals afterwards?

>>60195706
Special edition Omega is shit. Snowflake is beautiful but I don't care for the Spring Drive meme, and I love vintage Rolex.

Going to go with the Oyster Date.

>>60195737
Take a guess

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>>60195706
I'm a wristlet and not an old guy so none of those watches would look good on me

>>60194139
yeah i meant for grand seiko

>>60195764
Someone applied them afterwards?

>>60195574
Yes, srsly

>>60195706
Rolex by a narrow margin, but a standard meme on the moon is better than all three

>>60195706
GS.

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>>60195706
Obviously.

>>60194935
People keep parroting this, but I've got two dirt cheap Chinese Casio copies that keep good time.

>>60195706
Seiko.

>>60195892
>Speedmaster text illegible
>Subdial print is worse than on a redial
What went wrong?

>>60195706
sell that wretched rolex immediately. get a new strap on the omega, pronto. the gs is fine.

>>60195892
>>60195706
What's with the weird dials on the Speedmasters?
Limited editions?

>>60195706
how can one single pic raise so many polarizing feelings inside me?

>>60195956
I'm guessing the textured dial fucked up the silk screening and they (unfortunately) decided to let it pass QC

>>60195964
There's about a new limited edition speedy every month, limited to 9001 units

A few of them increase significantly in value, others approach the cost of a speedy pro over time

>>60195989
Unacceptable for the prices they are charging

>>60194750

Omega's implementation of the co-axial escapement is emblematic of everything that is wrong with the Swatch Group. During the R&D phase they should have realized that the whole idea was not workable on a production basis and that the benefits were not even close to enough to offset the large fragility, difficulty of servicing, and sensitivity to prompt servicing when compared to a bog standard Chronometer grade ETA 2892-A2.

And yet they went ahead and did it anyway because the primary motivation was marketing driven and it horologically driven. Even once it became apparent that there wasn't even a benefit of longer service intervals they couldn't scrap it due to being afraid of losing face.

Omega's Co-Axial movements simply do not deserve to be spoken about in the same breath as Rolex's 3235

>>60195901
have you actually tested them? checked to see how much time they lose after a year or so? etc

>>60196058
I've had one for a half a year, it's as accurate as my real Casio. The other is only a month old.

>>60196073
Well, I'm skeptical, but maybe it varies on a model-by-model basis... who knows? I've had a few that stopped keeping time after weeks, would suddenly lose minutes a day or more

Is Rolex a memewatch? Can I wear one without looking like a retard in /wt/?

>>60196103
Could have something to do with the fact that mine are "brand name" copies, not outright masquerading fakes.

>>60192632
Late reply but thanks.
Thinking about sniping one of these on ebay.
Maybe a no-date version.

>>60196112
Depends on the Rolex
If it's a Submariner everyone will think it's fake

>>60196117
mine are just no-names and chink brands that aren't fakes but original designs (afaik), might depend on cost too

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I wanna another NATO for the Mako, what color should i get?

>>60196175
Blue and White

>>60195051
>Seamaster Man in the Fucking Marketing Department
lel

>>60196172
Indeed, the ones I have were not all that much cheaper than real ones; I was primarily just curious.

>>60196112
>Is Rolex a memewatch?
Depends on the model, a few of them are good and at an acceptable price point (used).

>Can I wear one without looking like a retard in /wt/?
Judging by your question, probably not.

>>60196189
I'm kinda tired of the colorful blue/white/red scheme on the SKX013 already, i was thinking darker tones.
maybe "new" bond nato or full black?

>>60196112
>looking like a retard in /wt/
You look like a retard in /wt/ by posting in /wt/

In real life, if you wear a Rolex you'll be seen as mildly douchey unless you are a billionaire wearing an Air King in which case it's cool because you're "down to earth" for wearing a cheap watch. But hey, "buy a watch for you not to impress" or some shit. Or to put it more accurately, "buy a watch so it that you can play it off like you bought it for yourself" because it's not cool to look like you're trying. Sprezz tura or something like that, like going out of your way to tie your ties ever so slightly wrong and pretending you didn't notice. Buttoning not the top button of your blazer, if you're stylish enough to get away with that (they even make jackets that are designed to be buttoned slightly "wrong" it's called the two-and-a-half button aka 3-roll-2 and it's designed to button the middle so that the top is flamboyantly flapping in the wind)

If you want to buy a watch to "impress" you should get a still well known brand that is neither Rolex nor Omega (also not Tag, obviously, and not Nomos you fucking sperg just shut the fuck up).

Gerard Perregaux and Zenith are both well known enough to ride on brand recognition alone but still have enough "tool watch" heritage that you will seem "with it" and "sporty" (even if it's a dressier model)

If you hang out with a lot of Asians a Longines could also fit the bill. Asians fucking love Longines for some weird reason

>>60196136
I'm more inclined to think a datejust is a fake than a sub

>>60196311
hol up, which one is "new" bond nato ?

>>60194844
>>60194935
My $5 yazoles and $20 Sinobi keeps up with both my """swiss made""" quartz mall watch and my quartz Seiko. This is over 2 years.

>>60196420
Old bond: black, olive, red
New bond: black and gray

>>60196440
do the newer bonds actually rock the grey in a movie or is it just a meme?

>>60196440
Usually it's the other way around. Old bond is what people used to think it looked like until better masters of the movie showed that it was olive and red

>>60196461
He used it in the last one at least, people even spammed the poster zoomed in on the omega watch he was wearing when it came out.
Also the watch even came with the new bond nato

>>60196470

and then, one day, they put the black and gray one on daniel craig's mememaster and rolled the cameras.

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>>60195706
Middle because I already have a Speedy and a two tone DJ.

What's the best Casio watch? Other than the one from Alien

>>60190881
Because I can't afford the retardedly priced shit you probably claim to buy.
Dumb fuck.

>>60195956
The Swatch Group. Now pay up, goy.

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>>60196470
>until better masters of the movie showed that it was olive and red
seems like artifacting to me, grey against the darker color (black or navy)

just a side-effect of old film n shit

>>60196505
you just use any excuse to post this don't ya

>>60196512
There are like 3-4 people here who have money and the rest are idiots buying things they can't afford (seriously)

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>>60196526
I thought there being a two tone DJ in that picture made it relevant, but yes, I enjoy taking and posting wrist shots of the various watches I own.

>>60196508

GW-5000 or Oceᴀnus

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>>60196344

>>60190881

because i make enough money that $250 is genuinely meaningless to me

>>60195706
Snowfrake

>>60196519
>strap is smaller than lugs

We've been doing it wrong the whole time

>>60196519
>>60196519

i believe it was that promotional stills were discovered later that showed the strap in sharp focus and good light. anyway, the debate on the original bond strap has ended long ago, and it is black, olive, and red.

>>60196519
Is there a non-Rolex/Tudor watch that has these looks that isn't an obvious copy?

>>60196559
I want something with this aesthetic but quartz and relatively cheap. Smaller is better but this size looks good assuming your wrist is 6-7". Any ideas? Bonus for sapphire...
>>60196664
This, if you aren't wearing a 16mm on 20mm lugs you are failin
>>60196605
do you make 300k/year?

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>>60196711
Casio MDV106 but you might consider it an "obvious copy". It's just a good, cheap watch.

>>60196712
How cheap? I'll take a look later and post what I can dig up next thread. I'm pretty sure at least Casio and Seiko make inexpensive ~37mm blue sunburst dial quartz models.

>>60196712
>not wearing a 6mm bracelet from a woman's watch on a 24mm steinhart diver

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>>60196731
That doesn't look anything like >>60196519...

>>60196711
literally any diver?

>>60196755
>How cheap? I'll take a look later and post what I can dig up next thread. I'm pretty sure at least Casio and Seiko make inexpensive ~37mm blue sunburst dial quartz models.
I'd like to spend 300 or less, preferably 150 or less where possible. I'm not totally broke but I'd really like to get the most bang for my buck ignoring pedigree and watch nerd stuff... I know I'm in the wrong part of town to suggest that. Bonus points for sapphire glass, but if it's cheap enough then I don't require it.

Mainly I want to avoid something that looks very cheap, meaning it can kind of stand on its own and look respectable even if it's inexpensive. Lots of cheap watches are really tacky and toyish looking. Also, it doesn't necessarily have to be 37mm, anywhere from 33 to 38 is fine with me, although 38 starts to get too big on my 16.5cm wrist

>>60196789
what is your point

>>60196841
His point is that Jimbo had worse taste than the people who guessed what his strap looked like from a shitty VHS tape.

>>60196697
>i believe it was that promotional stills were discovered later that showed the strap in sharp focus and good light. anyway, the debate on the original bond strap has ended long ago, and it is black, olive, and red.
source

>>60196828
/wt/ will hate me for this, but Swatch irony

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I should get a new knife for my watch collection. K55k, some poorfag Spyderco or Victorinox?

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hnng

Is quartz watch more accurate than automatic watches? How many second would each lose in a year on average? 1min for quartz and 10minute for automatic or is it more than that?