/hpg/ - Headphone General

nice image, OP

Is this statement correct, /hpg/?
>>60026703

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>>60135531
No, HD 800 is the absolute optimum that can be archieved with the dynamic transducer.

>>60135553
Yes.
>>60135559
Top kek, the HD800 gets beat by the HD600/HD650.

Do the girls in the OP even wear headphones?

>>60135575
the one on the left wears headphones, look carefully

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>>60135574
poorfag

>>60135574
Anything backing up your comment, anon?

>>60135574
>Top kek, the HD800 gets beat by the HD600/HD650.
This.

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ATH-A900X > HD650 >>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>> HD600

>>60135678
>>60135574
Samefag

>>60135701
How are A900X's in comfort? My baby head has heard ADx's aren't great for small heads.

>>60135701
>closed muddy garbage
kek
>>60135705
Nope.

>>60135732
Its suspension system doesn't work well with small heads; sorry, anon.

>>60135734
better than open and flat garbage

>>60135734
I don't believe you.

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>>60135744
They aren't even flat; sorry anon.

>>60135795
the bass is flatline at 0db

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>>60135795
>Tyll
>non-standardized measurement

Only retards use Tyll's measurements.

>>60135836
>HD 650
>Pic not related

>>60135857
HD650 = HD6XX you stupid memer.

>>60135867
careful he's going to say some bullshit like the plastic being different and the drivers being b-grade or something

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>>60135867
>Memer

OP's been doing a good job at keeping it real with the images the past couple of threads.

>>60135879
>>60135890
Samefag, and now you post a measurement of the HD600. What a fucking retard.

>>60135922
>samefag
??

>>60131054
>>60131054

anyone else got recs

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>>60135922
Retard.
Meanwhile, i'm still waiting, anon.
>>60135705

>>60135938
Etymotic HF5

>>60135511
dumb lewdposter

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Why does this headphone cause so much shitposting?

As it's 3am here I must say that the best audio hardware upgrade you can make is alcohol

>>60135978
Shills recommending them to everyone no matter their preference.

>>60135978
Because they are fairly neutral but people who love them (me including) often don't understand that others might prefer coloured headphones

Enough of this shitposting, /hpg/. Post /YourTrack/. I'll start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wF3ivQUy8g

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>>60136034
>Gorillaz

>>60135995
Have to agree with this.
One night i got drunk and listened to barry white's first 8 albums back to back on my lcd2's. Loved every second of of it lol.

>>60136069
Sorry if my tastes aren't up to yours, anon. Their new album has been pretty OK so far, but that specific track has me.

Now please, join in the game; post yours, anon. :)

>>60136079
I must do headphones review one day while heavily drunk. I love my ODAC/O2/HD600 while sober, but being drunk like now just pushes it beyond any other upgrade you can make

If I'm looking for general purpose headphones (mostly for video and some music) what would I be best off with?

AKG 612 + amp
Sennheiser 598 w/o amp
AKG 7xx w/o amp

I'd like to stay around $150 but I'm willing to make the sacrifice for the 7xx if I can get by without an amp.

>>60136102
AKG K612.

>>60136102
You don't want K7xx with no amp for general purpose. Probably HD650 would be perfect for you, but with your budget the best choice will be 612 with amp.

>>60136069
>Inb4 Idol garbage

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>>60136148
>has reddit taste
>y-you must like idol s-shit!!

>he fell for the amp meme

>>60136165
>The Reddit Boogeyman meme
Now shut up and BTFO me with your taste ;^)

>>60136187
>smiley with carat nose
you're not doing a great job of convincing you've been on 4chan longer than a week

>>60136110
>>60136129

Thanks, so the 612's are that much better than the 598's that they're worth getting the amp?

>>60136196
>Still hasn't posted his taste
>Not taking up the offer of insta-BTFO'ing an anon
Sad!

>it's another call shit taste but don't post your own taste episode

top kek

>>60135795
Not gonna lie, even though tyll's compensation curve is dogshit and he's shit at measuring headphones, the HD6xx is one smooth measuring headphone.

>>60136207
They kinda need one since they're fairly insensitive

>>60136228
>Forgetting what we're arguing against after 5 posts
Tsk, tsk, tsk.

the HD-600 has shitty no treble, most pleb headphone by far for people who don't know anything about sound and try to convince themselves the boring tuning sounds interesting

>>60136246
Can you name a better headphone in production?

>>60136250
>Inb4 anon only accepts Sennheisers

>>60135998
literally this.

they need to stop. its a set of headphones for sure but it just doesnt work for everything

>>60135559
Is that Shibuya Rin? She's pretty, almost like IRL prety. Sadly her songs suck.

>>60136228
Now quit stalling and post your taste

>>60135701
>audio technica > HD600
lol no.

ah fuck it

ill get the T10's

>>60135995
community announcement. More alcohol and music sounds even better

>tfw you were a total audio pleb before lurking /hpg.
Still a pleb, but I'm feeling very cozy with my DT770's and Fulla 2.

>>60136599
>DT770
you're alright
>Fulla 2
commit suicide immediately

>>60136610
What's wrong with the Fulla2?

>>60136653
>schiit

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>>60136102
612 + amp.

>>60136690
Speaking of cheap DAC/Amp combos.

What's best /hpg/?
Schitt Fulla 2 or the Monoprice Desktop Amp? Are there any other competent combos in this price range?

>>60135836
>>60136236
All measurements are non standardized in headphones, there is no widely agreed compensation curves and ect., didn't you see how all measurements form different websites differ?

>>60136892
Fx audio dad x3-and x6

>>60136892
DAC-X6 gets you USB, coaxial, and spdif inputs and an imput select switch. Z Reviews just put out a video for it.

>>60137014
>Z Reviews
oh god

>>60137014
>Z Reviews

>>60137008
>>60137014
Hm, that looks interesting.

>>60137014
>Z Reviews
>Being this new
I don't mind him, but everyone else in this general does. I hope this serves as a lesson to you, anon.

>>60137089
I mean, he didn't exactly say "buy this because zreviews said" he merely stated an avenue for more information about the hardware. That said, I don't like that guy.

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Heads up motherfuckers, it's time for Sennheiser to SLAY.

>>60137089
Half of this general is braindead and another half are shills/trolls with only handful of people trying to actually have a discussion.

>>60137244
Are those closed HD 800s?

>>60137278
>Inb4 another repeat of the HD 598 CS

me on the left

me on the bottom

>>60137244
>pls let the HD820 be neutral

I wanna upgrade from my HD600 but there isn't anything better on the market.

Can Fulla 2 properly drive K7XX/K712/K612?

>>60137278
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXuXXChSQz0
I kind of doubt it, but it can be. Sennheiser just recently started with closed back and those are on lower level while this will be top of the line. Biggest obstacle however is that if it is a closed back, that would mean that Sennheiser redid the headphone, probably from ground 0. You can't just slap a closure onto the HD8xx cups that also give a specific resonance that needed resonator and some damping to kill. However, HD820 the cups are larger, so they probably redesigned it's structure. Maybe it's semi open, maybe it's open but grill is more dense or some shit, or maybe it's an improved HD800 but with more relaxed and 'neutral' sound of HD600 which would be ebin.

What I am more interested in, if it will be Sennheiser's first planar. Hoverer, it's HD820, not 900 or 1000 that would be suitable for new technology, and those cups are still hollow while planars cups are always flat.

>>60135978
they sound exactly like a flat professional monitoring headphone such as the MDR-7506 or M40x and are triple the price, they aren't anything special and people only recommend them only and nothing else because they are scared about being judged

>>60135511
>both cowtits
I bet they have bad taste in headphones too.

>>60137674
>they sound exactly like a flat professional monitoring headphone such as the MDR-7506 or M40x and are triple the price
so it sounds good then?

gotcha

Boycott anime OPs. Next thread have a picture of actual headphones.

>>60137707
There's headphones in the OP's picture.

>>60137718
Headphones > waifus, anon. Those don't seem like headphones /hpg/ would recommend.

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>>60137674
Great overall performance, non fatiguing treble, best mid range in it's range and best vocals, very natural sounding. But they are weak in sub bass without EQ and are the least snappy sounding out of bunch, so they struggle with some electronic music and fast rock I guess.

>they sound exactly like a flat professional monitoring headphone such as the MDR-7506 or M40x
Except they don't.

>>60137741
More anime girls with hd600 then

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>>60135978

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Oh Sennheiser what the fuck are you doing

For a first neutral pair of open cans, source is Fulla 2, AKG 612, HD598, or DT880 250 ohm?

>>60137976
K612 are closest to neutral

>>60137823
Silly anon; Sennheiser doesn't belong in anime.

>>60137976
AKGs, easily.

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>>60137244
>>60137278
What if it's a memephone that's convertible between being either open or closed back?

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>>60135511
Small tits and thicc thighs is GOAT.

Also CD900ST is GOAT. My HD600's sit in their box.

>>60137971
>Black and red gaymur aesthetic
Gross.

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>>60137823
Here's an HD650 waifu

close enough?

>>60138073
So elegant, calm, comfy and warm, just like the HD650 sound sig

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HD6XX DROP CONFIRMED

Price and date not yet revealed, I heard December,

Pretty sure you have me to thank for this, as I got sick of waiting and just got my HD650 delivered. Wondering if I shouldn't return.

>>60138126
What would you return for, are you really going to wait months for a cheaper HD650?

>>60136034

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJq6rSJOeIo

Also, what's up with all the lewd /hpg/ OP pics? Sort it out lads.

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Any others with opinions on Ncredible N1s? Closing in on a year of ownership, first pair of "legitimate" headphones.

I love the bass on these and imaxed it on my phone's EQ, and there's only minimal muffling of vocals.

As a curiosity, any ideas on where these stand in terms of competition?

>>60138199
Comfy.

>>60135511
I want them to peg me

>>60137976
HD600 is all you'll ever need.

>>60138387
this

>>60137329
yes, should be fine.

Should I believe the reviews? Are these really that good?

https://www.amazon.com/Philips-M1MKIIBO-27-Headphones-stitched/dp/B00V3A0LLE/

>>60137996
>>60138008
>>60138387
>>60138395
Is the HD600 so superior to the 612 that it justifies waiting to save up for it?

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>>60138111
it is

>>60138126
I got my HD650 for $300 new last month, and don't regret it one bit

Besides, I highly doubt they will sell the 6XX for $200 again. That was a limited run of only 5,000 to create a huge buzz. Next drop will most likely be something like $250+ now that there's a high demand (over 55,000 individual requests by people with accounts on Massdrop)

>>60138515
>on ear

I wouldn't

>>60138583
>Besides, I highly doubt they will sell the 6XX for $200 again.
They basically admit that it will cost more, unless they're trying to win brownie points by saying it will likely have to go up in price and they just managed to convince Sennheiser to keep it down, because they're so 'for' the community.

>>60138575
http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=0&graphID[]=3591&graphID[]=573&scale=20

Depends if this much of a difference in sound is worth the extra money.

>>60138575
Yes. Generally agreed there's nothing better under 1k. Depending on who you ask, there's simply nothing better period.

Sennshills
>>>r/headphones
>>>/sbaf/

>>60138667
Why does the mention of Sennheiser make you AKGbabbies so livid?

>>60135511
I REALLY like this image

>>60138676

He's right, though.

/hpg/ has been an HD600/HD650 circlejerk for ~a month and a half or so. While I'm not going to argue that the two of them aren't timeless classics (because they really are), they have been the flavor of the month as well. Something else will come along and people that have HD600/HD650s will continue to enjoy them regardless, but there's room for all different kinds of headphones.

>>60138711
It's been like that for a whole lot longer than a month and a half. There has been on and off bickering between Beyerfags and Sennfags for years, only in the last year and a half did the AKGbabies who were basically shunned to irrelevance have started piping up (but really it's just one the samefag K340 owner and always has been. You know the one who screams Belgium or whatever it was)

>>60138727

Fanboys gonna fanboy, sure. It's been really bad with the HD600/HD650 posting though. It's okay, I'm sure if I fanboy'd over what I like I'd be shunned for being an audiofool, so I'm just gonna stay in my corner and enjoy what I enjoy. People get too damn worked up treating /hpg/ or any other place on the web like it's the frickin' gospel.

>>60138769
People who actually care about their audio equipment being neutral will be laughing at HD600 shills while their Etymotic eardildos blast shitty anime music right at their eardrums while others who have found their sound signature preferences will also be listening to their music.

Can't you see the entertainment value in the shills repeating the same shit over and over while exposing their lack of knowledge on the subject?

I've got a pair of Audio Technica AD700's and I've used them daily for the past... idk, 6 years?

Any good replacements? The ear pads are worn to shit and support said they don't have any replacements, so I think I'll just get a new pair.

>>60139044
I should stress an open stage is mandatory

>>60139044
Get the successors to them, AD-700X/900X's or they're japanese closed back versions A500Z/900Z

Best open headphones below the price of the HD600: AKG k612
Best open headphones in general: HD600

This is all you need to know

if /hpg/ had access to unlimited music, would you rather listen to it from a vinyl analog source or digital with a good DAC

>>60139283
digital, i want to listen to my music not popping, cracking and a high noisefloor

Is it weird that I prefer the sound of IEMs? They sound more direct and less "washed out" I guess

>>60139404
prefer it to which specific headphone/speaker set up?

>>60137546
Protip: HD means headphone dynamic, so the planar sennheiser may be HP or something.

>shape doesn't fit planar

Imagine if development was already finished and some marketing guy said "yeah it's cool and all but make it look like the HD 800 because muh Sennheiser" and the developers had to start over again. That would be crazy, right?

>>60137546
>Sennheiser's first planar.
No chance. Sennheiser aren't interested in old, garbage tech.

Mom broke my grados sr60i :/

What should I get now?

>>60137779
>HD600 dropping 6dB/decade from 150Hz
Let me guess: poor seal during measurement?

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>>60139764
Oh but they are.

>>60139872
Electrodynamics are newer than Orthodynamics, are you going to criticize Audeze, Hifiman and these other meme-tier boutique manufacturers for using old tech?

>>60139884
I'm gonna criticize you for being a faggot retard

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>>60139909

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>>60139915

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>>60139919

>>60139930
Sennshill mad his 1990s deprecated phones got called out.

*snap*

>>60139935
It was fun while it lasted

>>60139942
I'm sure they were. *snap*

>>60138069
Anything looks better than hd 598.
Fuck beige and fuck old people.

>>60138615
>>60138615
What in the fuck is akg doing just above 10k?

>>60140100
Not a lot apparently

>>60140081
>hd 598
It's the Noctua cans

>>60136034
https://youtu.be/anZ8cglXM-E

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>>60138615
>>60140100
That's k601 not k612.
Don't fall for the sennshills games.

>Budget
Not willing to spend a massive amount at the moment, I'll say £50 but flexible
>Location
Scotland, UK
>Source
Mainly my phone (might buy a dedicated audio player in the future though) and my laptop/desktop
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Fairly comfortable

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>>60135511
Why do you guys use flange tips? Foam has better noise isolation and is more comfortable. Only downside is that it gives inaccurate bass response.

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>>60140212
>Huge 6KHz peak on both models
Color me skeptical.

>>60139785
a new mom

>>60140320
What're the best custom in-ear under $1000?

>>60140369
Etymotic.

>>60140320
They don't wear out so quickly. How does foam give inaccurate bass response?

>>60140212
>That's k601 not k612
Aren't k601 and k612 the same headphones? Except k601 are made in austria and therefore better build quality and more expensive, and k612 are made by chinks, cheaper and shittier build quality.

>>60140379
They slightly make bass stronger because of its thicker material. If you have both tips try it out.

Is this thread just a thinly veiled excuse to post hentai tits?

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>Budget
700cad and flexy, i want to buy an amp with this as well
>Location
cuckada
>Source
320 mostly
>Type of headphone
cans
>Open or closed
open may be a plus
>Sound signature
what does this mean
>Past headphones
grado sr something idk
audio techncia big ugly space cans idk good for keyboard
Dt770
Senny 598


I mainly listen to kpop/jpop
having a hard time finding cans that will handle the highs without being harsh
keep going back to the dt770 but i want to ditch them they are ugly desu
what ia the new meme amp these days still schiit?

>>60140593
HD600 + Magni 2.

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>>60140320
Because I use these. The noise isolation is actually spooky. Very easy to be ambushed.

>>60140577
How's your first /hpg/, lad?

>>60140577
Not all of us support the hentai tits
some of us want it to FUCK OFF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUKbI8p2bRk

HD6xx is superior at $199, what a steal

You fags that bought HD600/HD650 sure got told

>>60141592
I spent €277 for a HD600. Spending €77 more for a superior headphone isn't a bad deal.

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>>60135511
Guys please someone recommend me a good 3.5mm cable extension to replace my old one since it messed up.

>budget
Around 300ish
>location
US of A
>source
O2 amp
>type
Over ear preferred, on ear ok too
>open/closed
Don't much have a preference, although closed would be nice
>comfort level
The more comfy the better
>sound profile
I prefer flat signatures, if anything a slight bass boost
>previous headphones
I've got a pair of re-400 I really like, currently stuck with a pair of cheap Sony headphones, don't know the model, the cheap on ear like 20 buck kind. Love the hifi man's, sonys are good for what they are. Had a pair of nvx xpt100s, liked those a bit but the sound always seemed a bit dull, not sure how to describe it.
Looking for something I can put on and just sit and listen to music with, don't need to be good for gaming or anything else, just enjoying music. Mostly I listen to metal, after that progressive rock, classic rock, jazz, and folk. Looking for something that lets me come home after a long day and just lets me sit back and enjoy
Any ideas or pointers?

>>60135511
best IEMs for $20-$100? I've always just used apple earbuds, but I lost mine. I'm not an audiophile and most of my music is streamed or 320kbps mp3 from my phone, so I don't really know how much I want to spend.

>>60141983
Sennheiser HD600.

>>60142099
Thanks, will look into them.

looking for headphones, budget is 200-300 USD.
Using for music and playing shitty singleplayer games.

I was looking at AKG K 845BT, but fuck wireless headphones.

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>>60139785
>What should I get now?
fix yer grados, dummy. Send 'em in or diy it.

>>60142184
oh and if you need to know the type of music I listen to, shoegaze/dream pop-y shit

>budget
< $200
>location
USA
>source
Fiio Q1 / PC
>type
Over Ear
>open/closed
Closed
>comfort level
Doesn't matter, max 1-2 hours at a time.
>sound profile
Very bright
>previous headphones
Sennheiser HD428

>>60141983
If you go closed, DT770 is very comfy.

Slight v-shape without harsh highs, sounds great for metal.

One of the best closed options under $300.

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>>60142884
> without harsh highs

>>60135511
whores

>>60142951
Sorry you're treble sensitive friend.

The treble might be harsh if you're listening to electronic music or something, I've never tried.

But if he's listening to metal and rock, those mixes don't usually have a lot of treble to them, so the 770's suit the sound well.

>>60142951
Dude I painlessly listen to my K702 each day, but the amount of treble germans build in their headphones is plainly retarded

>>60137674
LMAO

>>60138387
>That feel when listening to 'the first hunter' from the bloodborne soundtrack with my 600's and fulla 2

Yes, dats it mayne.

>>60140641
>The noise isolation is actually spooky. Very easy to be ambushed.

That's the exciting bit though

>hd600 now costs more than the 650
nice work audiophools

>>60143384
HD600 is better, then it's logical it's more expensive

>>60143494
Owned both and can confirm the 600 is better. Retards need muh bass and don't appreciate actual detail.

>>60143494
I also owned both and can confirm this. Anyone who prefers the 650 is clearly a retard and is too dumb to not fall for shilling.

>>60143494
>>60143525
>>60143611
>tfw too smart to buy Sennheisers

Are these good for the price(43 dollarydoos)? They're listed on the actual website as 130$.
https://www.amazon.com/Koss-ProDj200-Studio-Headphone-Silver/dp/B007CNC79A

Any suggestions appreciated. I mostly watch movies and listen to music. Play games occasionally. Budget is 50 euros, give or take.

I've been eyeing the 800S for a while now

I'm sensitive to highs and I don't really care about neutrality, is there a more sensable upgrade form the 650? Am I looking in the wrong direction?

>>60143686
>too

At least get the meme right lad

>>60130211
Thanks dude. Just read your response.
Speaking of the HD600, i've been seeing more and more negative things about them in /hpg/ lately

>>60143856
Highs are harsh on the 800's aren't they? isn't like their only real flaw?

>>60137244
>>60137278
>>60137546
I saw a post about an hour ago and I can't find it anymore, the posted had what appeared to be a closed HD800 and his 800S. I think it's just an old HD800, or perhaps modded.

>>60143966
>i've been seeing more and more negative things about them in /hpg/ lately

Usually akg shills, or one autist.

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>>60143990
Yeah they have a peak at 6K that causes them to be ... lets say "rough", many people have gone out of their way to put some fabric inside the headphones that supposedly "fix" them (see pic)

>>60141938
the cheapest not shit looking one on amazon

>>60144051
> having to physically modify a 1000$ headphone to fix a construction flaw
High-end headphones have been a mistake since 1997 when the last great high-end headphone came out

>>60143990
No, the upper midrange response is garbage on the HD800.

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>>60143851
blease resbond

>>60144279

They're going to be shit, look into better ones and save up some money if you have to.

>>60144348
I know nothing about headphones, I don't know how to evaluate what "better ones" are like.
Okay, here's the template suggested in the OP:
>Budget
~50 eur
>Location
Baltics
>Source:
Mostly laptop
>Type of headphone
Full, over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High, want to be able to wear them for several hours with minimal discomfort
>Sound signature
No fucking clue.

>Purpose
Mostly movies and music. Occasionally a game.

Whats the best dac/amp combo? I was looking at the nfb-11, how is that?

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Quick question, is optical audio output affected by the snr rating of my stock mobo audio codec?

I use optical to a standalone dac for headphones.

>>60144509
>best
Don't be silly, Anon
>nfb-11
NTB-11 is supposed to be fantastic, although the order process is odd at best

>>60144482
At that price , probably something like this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Audio-Technica-ATH-M30X-Professional-Headphones-Black/dp/B00HVLUQW8/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1493570996&sr=8-6&keywords=Audio+Technica

Friend wants to be able to voice chat with people on teamspeak while he's brewing coffee in another room

Do you know of any good wireless options that do well when separated by walls?
He already has good headphones & speakers, just needs because he's a finfag that makes coffee like 19 times a day

He says he's currently using an astro a40 for it, and is wondering if there's better options for this

also yeah
>a friend

>>60144631
>comfortable
>m#0x line

>>60144482
662 Evo are good closed headphones, but they might not have the sound signature you want, they're pretty neutral while you'll most likely want v shaped
I'd say spend the extra buck & get Hyperx Cloud 1 (core optionally if you don't want velour pads. It's cheaper in some places) or takstar pro 80
they're the same headphone, but the cloud has a detachable mic and the pro 80 isn't findable everywhere. Prices vary depending on where you live, but I got the clouds for 60.

>>60142505
7506 with replacement pads

>>60141983
HD600/6XX/650
if you find some more money, PM3

>>60140593
dt880 + o2/e10k/fulla2

>>60144816
I have no idea, but I agree they don't look comfortable. Probably the best closed sound at that price though, as a guess.

>>60140593
Fulla 2 is a very good dac+amp combo.

>>60144893
if you like v shaped or bright, pro 80/hyper x cloud has you covered
sounds too bassy imo with pleather but sounds very similar to my SR850 although with less soundstage with cloth

>>60135553
He's not wrong.

Audiofags are mad because their expensive headphones aren't worth shit.

>>60145455
More like you're delusional because you're poor.

>>60145515
emulating expensive headphones is like pirating games
it's just what 4chan does
you get the exact same results, but the developers get no money. So you're sort of morally obliged to buy them because you're using their product

>>60145580
>you get the exact same results

No.

>>60145596
it's exactly the same
everyone here secretly uses 5$ chink earbuds anon

>>60145596
ah, got you f.a.m

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>>60026703
brb EQing the earbuds that came with phone to get me some Orpheus sound signature.

>>60144631
>>60144816
Thanks for the suggestions. I've searched around a bit and all I can say is, choosing headphones is a fucking nightmare.
Takstar 80, "missing upper midrange", "poor vocal reproduction", according to reviews.
It seems like no matter what I pick, it's a gamble. HD662 Evo is a great price, though. ATH-M30X is a bit too much at 70.
Can you explain why the ones I originally posted are shit?

>>60137674
Damn, that's as wrong as can be... You never tested them, have you?
At least google some measurements before saying stuff like that.

>>60145652
Pretty much every single headphones has something 'wrong' with it. You just find a lot more problems the lower you go. Like most things.

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>>60145676
>Pretty much every single headphones has something 'wrong' with it.
But.. why?

>>60145757
I'm not that smart anon, I have no idea why. When hd600's are one of the best sounding headphones and they're pretty much 20 years old, it shows that it's clearly very hard to get it 'right'

>>60145785
It's not hard to get right, it's just that nobody really cares, the market is too caught up in the audio jewelry thing.

Only a small number of autists care about neutral sound reproduction. A niche within a niche.

>>60146013
>It's not hard to get right

There is no perfect headphone, so it's clearly hard.

>>60146040
On what basis do you define perfection?

>>60146165
Perfection would be being unable to tell if you're hearing a recording or live music. But then you'd need a "perfect recording".

>>60146203
No that sounds horrible. Perfection means that what you're hearing through your headphones is exactly what the original sound engineer of a song had in mind when he mastered the song.

>>60146165
Well, being able to say that every single part of the headphone sounds good, i.e the bass, mids, treble etc. Every single headphone has an obvious fault in this regard. The 600's could have more bass (though I still love them) the highs could be better on the 800 etc etc.

If a thousand pound headphone can't fucking get it right then pretty much nothing will.

>>60146268
>The 600's could have more bass
so buy the 6xx or 650?

>>60146294
lo that's my exact point. The highs on the 600 are nearly perfect imo and they're recessed on the 650. They're also more muddy than they need to be.

>>60146294
Overwhelming bass at the expense of everything else doesn't look like a good trade-off.

>>60146268
High-end headphones have been a joke since 1997, when HD600 was made. HD600 is the last and best high-end headphone.

>Budget
~200 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source:
Laptop, PS4
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
I had closed before, could try open because I only use headphones at home
>Comfort level
High (I use headphones for several hours at a time)
>Purpose
Music, movies, games
>Previous headphones
ATH M50

>>60138676
for the record i dont own an akg headphone anymore and i currently own a 650.
Im just saying you guys are shilling soooo much
>I want bass
>HD600/650!!!11!!!

>>60146367
AKG K612

>>60146349
>Overwhelming bass
>HD 650
Heh, nice joke anon.

>>60146391
I don't agree with him on overwhelming, but the headphones are more muddy than the 600.

>>60146391
HD650 unnecessarily enhances the mid- and sub-bass of the HD600 , so yes, HD650's bass is overwhelming.

>>60146433
>bass is too weak on X
>why not get Y, it's a version of X with slightly more bass
>Well Y has more bass than X so the bass is overwhelming
huh

>>60146433
>subbass overwhelming

Bass overall muddier? certainly.

>>60146433
>HD 650's bass is overwhelming
>Barely any more bass than an HD 600
Looking at frequency response graphs don't count, anon.

>>60146433
>overwhelming
Not exactly the word I'd use; the 650 won't kill you with lowend.

>>60146433
That's an overstatement, it just has more bass and lower midrange OR it has less upper midrange and treble response, it can be perceived many different ways since the HD650 is shelved in comparison to the HD600 but both have the same octave roll off in the bass.

HD650 just sounds a bit warmer in comparison, not night and day like some autists think.

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>>60145649
word is bond i made my $35 skullcandys sound delicious on Poweramp

>>60146433
>Inb4 never had the HD 650

>>60146593
The 600 is already a bit warm, All it needs is a small bump in sub ass and the 650 doesn't do that, it just sounds more muddy across the board.

>>60146433
>600 shills actually think this
Yikes.

>>60146593
HD650 is a darker, less refined and muddier HD600, even though HD650 is more expensive. I consider HD650 as the first bad and disappointing high-end headphone.

>>60146579
>>60146491
>>60146464
>>60146460
Maybe I worded my thoughts badly. Overhwelming might not be the correct adjective. HD650 simply added more bass to a basically flawless headphone which didn't need to be warmer.

>>60146669
That's one guy. The sub bass is barely any different, but the overall signature is muddy in comparison.

>>60146662
>The 600 is already a bit warm, All it needs is a small bump in sub ass
It doesn't. Most people jerk off too much to a flat sub-bass response but it doesn't make much of a difference in real world listening. For HD600 to truly be neutral it needs a treble lift. But one can argue that lifting the treble further would turn it into a bright headphone even though it's technically neutral. See ER-4B for example.

>>60146696
>darker, less refined and muddier
buzzwords

>>60146696
>darker
no
>muddier
no
>refined
the fuck this mean

it's a warmer version of the HD600
some people think the HD600 doesn't have enough bass so the HD650 exists

>>60146696
Everything is subjective I suppose, I'd take my 650 over the 600 every day of the week.

>>60146746
>Everything is subjective I suppose, I'd take my 650 over the 600 every day of the week.
This x100, 600s are redditphones for deaf people

>>60146696
>HD 600
>Flawless
>Hi-Fi
What year is this?

>>60146764
>hey guys am I a cool contrarian 4channer yet

>>60146696
>darker, less refined and muddier

>>60146781
>Disliking HD 600s is now considered contrarian
Sad.

>>60146814
>disliking a solid all rounder headphone

Even if you don't like the sound signature, you can't deny that the HD600 has its merits.

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>>60146855
Sorry anon, but I still can't get over the anon being called a contrarian for not preferring HD 600s. Kek. When did it get to this?

Here's a shitty stock effort, though.

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>>60139044
Sennheiser HD600.

>>60146764
m8 head-fi aka the home of warmth and tooobs prefer the 650.

You have to go back.

>>60146921
Not that anon but I'm just wondering why someone would dislike the HD600, I'm not talking about preference here.

>>60146939
If HD 650s are to Head-Fiers, then are HD 600s to Redditors?

>>60140081
I love the beige HD598.

But HD598se has you covered... nice and black.

>>60142505
HD380 Pro.

>>60146955
I wouldn't say I dislike the 600, but the highs can get on my nevers; that's why I prefer the 650.

>>60146939
>>60146968
Now shoo; off you go to where both of you belong.

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>>60143966
Mostly people who do not own them, haven't tried them, and so on.

HD600 are really good. There's plenty of reviews (text and video) out there which will confirm this.

But no matter how good a device is, there's always gonna be some haters. And hatters gonna hate.

>>60143966
>>60144042
>>60147061
They're good headphones, but the massive shilling needs to stop.
>>60135998
>>60136013

>>60146779
2017.

20 years and nothing's changed. Except that, well, HD600 is somewhat affordable now.

>>60135511
Do I need a dac for an hd 599?

>>60147048
Literally don't go to reddit or headfi.

600's are king. Leave.

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>>60147091
>They're good headphones, but the massive shilling needs to stop.
They're very good headphones that are also insanely high value at their price, so of course they are going to get recommended a lot.

>>60147130
>600s are king
>In something subjective

>>60147139
>HD600
>high value

Nope. A Samson SR-850 is what I'd call high value.

>>60147123
Sure, if your source is not analog in the first place. Chances are it is. Headphone jacks tend to output analog.

An *amp* would benefit you, as HD598/599 have weird and very pronounced impedance vs freq. A good test is, if it sounds very different after making the volume aproximatelly the same between two different sources (like phone and computer), at least one of them is wrong, and you'd benefit from an amp.

The Schiit Fulla 2 is an amp+dac(usb) with excellent specs, additional inputs and outputs, and very affordable. It's probably the only such device you'll ever need.

>>60147139
Too much shilling, anon. Too much shilling.

Some poor anon was asking for closed-back headphones a few threads ago; he was recommended HD 600s. Didn't help that none of the recommendations were that good either.

>>60147123
e10k if you want. But you honestly dont need one.

Are the AKG K240s any good for a cheaper pair of headphones?

>>60147186
>The Schiit Fulla 2 is an amp+dac(usb) with excellent specs, additional inputs and outputs, and very affordable. It's probably the only such device you'll ever need.
$0.02 cents was deposited into your account.

Jason Stoddard

>>60147211
That's silly, but still, if he bought it, I'm sure he doesn't regret it one bit despite the fact he wanted closed.
>>60147251
I'm just a happy Fulla 2 & schiit uber stack owner. I've had the chance to play with similarly priced devices, and I am confident enough to recommend schiit over these.
>0.02 cent.
If I was a paid shill at that pay, that'd be a pretty sad life.

/g/ hpt used to be an objective place where there weren't any head-fi tier buzz words or low-effort shills

now it is the total opposite where autists somehow recommend you to EQ $100 headphones to give them the clarity of a $1000 headphone

>>60147345
>now it is the total opposite where autists somehow recommend you to EQ $100 headphones to give them the clarity of a $1000 headphone
But that's possible. Why do people get butthurt over that one anon's statement?

>>60147354
nice bait

>>60147354
Can you show me a guide to make my DT770s sound like DT1770s without having to upgrade?

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>>60147345
Kek. It's almost like you can't eq for shit. I bet you spent $400+ on something that sounds worse than my $70 pair of eq'd headphones.

Pic related.

>Budget
100~150 usd
>Location
usa
>Source
laptop
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
3 to 4 hours of use, i'm somewhat okay with the comfort of my current hd201s
>Sound signature
flat
>Past headphones
hd201

>>60147380
Just play with an EQ.

Also DT1770 is shit anyway, the DT770 is better.

>>60147405
MDR-V6 / MDR-7506.

>>60147403
>hyperbole

http://seanolive.blogspot.com/2017/02/twirt-337-predicting-headphone-sound_17.html

I'll just leave this here...

>>60147574
>t. poor man

>>60147637
>t. uneducated dumb audiophile

>>60147243
They're decent. I'd try to get the ones with velours.

>>60147661
>t. mr $80 headphones man

>>60147243
They are decent if you have a low output impedance source.
Also spare parts are cheap and easy to come by.

>>60147696
>muh $400 headphones
>muh warmth
>muh soundstage
>muh toobs
>muh anime music

kys

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>>60147767
You sound triggered.

>>60146367
hd598 hd558 shp9500
>>60140250
soundmagic, superlux makes stuff at that budget

>>60147767
I literally have $250 headphones that are considered flay by a lot of people, and they have next to no soundstage. I use a solid state 'cheap' amp and I hate 99% of anime

You fucking kill yourself you retard. You don'y belong in this general. Go back.

>>60147819
>Having feelings over anime
:(

>>60147846

new thread

>>60147840
>I literally have $250 headphones that are considered flay by a lot of people
what headphones are those?

>>60147767
>>60147840
>>60147843
Flat is justice.

>>60147324
>>>r/headphones
>>>/sbaf/

>>60147873
600's, and no, I'm not the "shill" recommending them in this thread. Clearly a lot of people own them here, and for a good reason.

>>60147992
They only have neutral mids; sorry, anon.

>>60140250
Carbo Tenore

>>60148106
I'm not sorry and I don't think they're neutral, i n fact I didn't even say the word. I said that others here find them flat.

Their blend is what makes them sound so nice. Keep going though, I'm sure you'll feel good about your headphones if you keep going.

>>60144212
>1997 when the last great high-end headphone came out
Curious, what's he referring to?

Just added a subwoofer to my speakers. Man, fuck headphones. Now I'm going to regret working in the office and having to use the inferior option.

>>60147354
Because they don't have a clue about audio.

>>60143384
I suspect it's because of the release of the HD 599

I'm trying to find headphones that have filled out earpads rather than the usual donuts. Is there a term they are coined with so it's easier to find them? I had a pair of sony headphones, though I can't remember what they were called, that were great on my head and didn't give me headaches no matter how tight they were.

>>60149812
xb500?

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>>60149835
Yes that's it. I got two of them for $40 each years ago but it seems they're no longer manufactured so the price shot up. Haven't been able to find headphones that are as comfortable on big ears like those.

>>60147884
literal reddit catchphrase

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Why are we still arguing about which similar snapheisser can sounds better in 2017?