/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

Helpful reminder to not get gimped by sata 2 speeds.

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>>59935703
POST YOUR THINKPAD TEMPS RIGHT MEOW

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>>59935749
t420s, i7 2620m

>>59935749
~19C. It is off and sitting on my PC.

Anyone know where I could find a list of battery part numbers supported by the x230?

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>>59935749
T420
I7-2620m
Im watching Netflix and OSX is an everything hog anyways.

Tell me about the EliteBook 2730p
.

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Hi /tpg/

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>>59936201
and here my temps

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>>59935739
>Helpful reminder to not get gimped by sata 2 speeds.

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My w500

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why are thinklights so comfy?

Is 2017 Thinkpad X1 Carbon a meme? How about 2017 Thinkpad X1 Yoga?

>>59937141
I could try to replace my thinklight with 2400K led. Would be even comfier

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Post your Thinkpads

>>59937223
I'm gonna replace it with a 50mw laser

>>59937543
and what about 1W and shoot directly into eyes, if anyone try to login and fails

Are these both TN screens?

http://www.broadwaycomputers.net.au/view/productdetails.php?product=LED125S-30
http://www.broadwaycomputers.net.au/view/productdetails.php?product=LED125S

>>59935703
dumb question inbound

i was given a w530, i replaced the HDD with my SSD

I was getting boot issues related to some strange SSD, turns out theres a 16gb module plugged into the m2sata port or whatever it's called.

Unplugged it and now no problem.

But now i'm wondering, Is there any reason in the world as why i would still use that small "boost ssd", when i replaced the HDD with an actual SSD?

Is it better to just set it up as a little encrypted drive for bank documents and shit?

I think it has something to do with some intel speed boot shit.

and random sidenote:
TO ANYONE WONDERING
YES, CHANGING THE THERMAL PASTE MAKES A DIFFERENCE

On my t420 artic ceramic knocked temps down an average of 8c

not sure if the factory paste is shit, shit because it's old, or shit because they used a fuckton.

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Anyone on Linux ever swapped the places of the left side FN and Control keys on their X220/x230?

Want a small laptop bad, but the buttons being placed so retarded I might have to go for an Elitebook.

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can I trust these 9-cell batteries that are sold on aliexpress?

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>>59937489
eh why not

w530 in the dock
t420 up front
t43 on the right


The *30 series imho feels as good as the *20 series, i think *40 and up starts to feel like shit

but that being said, there is a MASSIVE difference of quality between the t43 and the t420

I've dropped my t420 on a industrial carpet floor, and only broke my ultrabay lock clip which was able to be snapped back in.

I was worried, but this t43?
I feel i could deliberately drop this bitch .

(sadly i'm low on money atm, what's the typical selling price for the t43?)

Hey, i was thinking about getting a t420, and do some light Photoshop and Vegas work there. I just read online tough, that the intel hd 3000 doesn't have dedicated memory, and that worries me.

Im not going to render 4k, or even 1080p videos, or use Photoshop to do heavy work, just basic card/editing stuff, but im worried if the t420 can actually handle it.

>>59938309
So get a t430 instead.
It's not much more expensive, is it?

>>59938309
it really cant, the intel GPU sucks

make sure it comes with the nvidia 4200m dedicated card and at a minimum the i5-2520 (its the same speed as the other i5, but has the same cache as the i7 that was offered so it runs a bit snappier)

It's fine for photoshop work, but i was getting slightly frustrated working with aftereffects with only a few layers, but i was working with 1080p XVAS video from my a6000.

You might want to look into a t430 or a w530 for a bit more power

They did come as an option on all laptops, but when searching ebay, theres a 8/10 chance it has the better specs if it has the fingerprint reader.

>>59938111
there is a bios setting to do this.

>>59938111
There is an option to swap it in the BIOS.

t. T450s owner.

>>59938364
I just did a quick search, the intel hd 520 that comes in the recent skylake processors, actually get their memory from the main RAM.

If the hd 3000 did the same (I don't know if it works this way too), i wouldn't mind settling for the t420, as i planned to upgrade him with 2x 8gb.

some marketplace seller on newegg has the W530 for $500. Tis refurbished but good anyway?

>>59938538
only settle for the t420 with the dedicated gpu
it makes a serious difference

>>59938559
Can't find any t420 with dedicated GPU.

I was actually interested in falling for the 420 meme, but if i wouldn't be able to work well with it, i might as well do as >>59938338 says, and get the t430.

>>59938309
Get a W520

>>59938627
Wait, were you actually gonna get it just because it's called 420?

>>59938151
I'm also wondering this. What's usually the battery time on them and/or the 6-cell ones from AliExpress?

>>59938675
No, because people here recommend it a lot. And i suppose it's still a great notebook, despise that, but i need one to at least cover these basic work.

>>59938764
Most of the Thinkpads /g/ recommends aren't meant to do anything other than browse /g/ and do light text editing. I jest, slightly, but really 2 cores are a joke for any even semi-serious post production work.

W520 is probably what you're looking for.

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>>59938213
beautiful

Do you guys think it's a good idea to have a X230 constantly hooked up to two 1920x1080 monitors for /g/ shitposting and youtube videos? I'm concerned that it will shorten the laptop's lifetime drastically due to high load/heat.

Is it possible to get a thinkpad under 400€ which could compare to my current Lenovo Y500 (4c/8t Ivy Bridge i7, Nvidia 650m 2gb)? I work as a graphic designer (UI, print) and animator (both 3d and 2d). I use the laptop only for work on the go, so it´s not my main work machine, but I need it sometimes.

>>59939677
it will die from electrimigration rather than heat. And it will take at least decade to migrate that much elecrons.

>>59939714
ofcourse, any W530

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so this is my current specs on my inspiron, would it be possible to get a x220 or x230 that would surpass or or be on the same level?

my shits starting to show its age

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>>59935703
Bought this for $140 and spent an extra 25 bucks on a 9cell and extra HDD bay.

How bad did I fuck up? It's in overall pretty good condition with no major scratches

So I just dug an A30 out of the bowels of my garage for the fun of it. Is it usable? What would be the most lightweight os?

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>>59935749
Not bad considering I have a million tabs open and was just recompiling retroarch

>>59936240
That would be pretty impressive if you were running something more than just two terminals
X201's run hot as fuck, built worse than the X200 too

>>59939879
Check for a BIOS password as soon as you get it.

I bought an HP Elitebook once and the buyer never mentioned that it was BIOS locked. Not impossible to remove but it took several hours of searching just to find a solution.

Also check for the usual (white spots on screen, good hard drive, ram, etc.)

>>59935944
How the fuck did u get OS X working on a t420
post tut plz

>>59939677
Get a T410 or 420 with a dock for that

>>59938151
My chink ebay 9cell gets about 4 hours (with a browser and a lot of tabs open, running on KDE) on my X200

More if it's just a PDF or libreoffice open

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>>59939835
The X220 has quite similar specs. Pic related is a X230 with average specs. Of course there are stronger i7 versions, but they are very expensive if you don't live in burgerland.

If I were you, I'd do a SSD upgrade before considering a new laptop.

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>>59935749
running a bit hot here, probably dusty but i could always change the thermal paste later.

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>>59939997
Too late. Already got a X230 and three 1338 docks. Life circumstances changed a lot. This kind of use was never intended before. At least CPU temperatures don't seem to go above 60°C

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>>59939977
If it's booting to this screen then there should be a BIOS password right?
Which elitebook did you buy? How is it?

Here's the full listing
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/132147806095?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Seller raised the price for some reason after I bought it kek

>>59939951
Actually working on my thesis, firefox, another 5 or 6 terminals with vim and compiling that shit. And no, X201 does not run hot as fuck. Never get over 70°C, at least not with MATLAB, 1080p vids, compiling or firefoxing.

>>59939835
Get rid of your bloated OS and your shit will run better retard

>>59940085
Shouldn't*
>>59940076
T61s are super cheap and fit the bill just fine. Also you can probably keep them on until the sun explodes with no issue.

>>59940085
mine was an 8460p, basically the previous-gen model

dont know about that screen but you should be able to navigate through the UI into the security section.

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Alright guys, just jumped onto this meme and copped a T440p i5-4300M with 16GB RAM, 500GB HDD for £220, needs a charger/HDD swap to a SSD though and I'm already looking to mod out the trackpad with one from the T450 for those buttons.

How'd I do?

Also I noticed the display doesn't seem to have good reviews - heard I can swap it out for an IPS easily enough.

>>59940141
Oh I'm still waiting for it to be delivered

Is it like thinkpads were it tells you right away that there's a password on the BIOS?
I imagine the seller would mention if it's locked right...
Also the HDD is wiped with no OS so thats also would mean that the BIOS isn't locked

>>59939991
Step 1) stop being a retard
Step 2) install OS X

>>59940046
>>59940099
well i want a new laptop, this ones starting to fail hardware wise and i need a more durable commuter

>>59940258
What hardware is starting to fail specifically?

The virus named Windows 10 installed itself on my t420 last August and I haven't really used my laptop because obviously... >Windows 10

I installed Debian (Gnome) yesterday, now how do I install the wifi drivers? I don't want to ask /fglt/ because that shit isn't friendly at all; its fully autistic.

>>59940376
trackpad, keyboard, speakers, Bluetooth, wifi

>>59940381
lwlwifi

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>>59935703
Can anybody indemnify what model thinkpad these are from outer space?

>>59940517
A31p

>>59940141
FUCK
Now you have me paranoid as fuck

>>59940021
how long have you been using it? do you think it's safe? how much was it? are there certain chink brands to trust? can you send me a link?

>>59940240
How about you post the tutorial you used you cunt

>>59940728
About a year now, it was from 15-20 I think.
As far as I know there's no real brand that makes them, so just buy from the highest rated seller

>>59940191
>220 pounds
You did good, swap the trackpad and the HDD and you're set. How is the battery life, good or < 3h ?

just got a x60s for 60 USD, did i do good /g/ ?

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>dad uses X201t
>fucks up his keyboard constantly somehow
>has the grand idea to try to pry up the little metal bits that hold the keys in with a razor blade
>while the thing is still on
>it sparks, won't turn on anymore
that's $200 down the drain

Is an x220 able to handle large video files (~10gb 1080p HDRip) without any frame-dropping and other such problems?

>>59941838
handily.
It may lag a little on larger rips though, I had a second long freeze just now testing over a few minutes of an 18GB rip.

>>59937141
what model? thank.

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I'm thinking of upgrading my x230 to an IPS display. Which model should I get? Searching for x230 IPS screen yields so many results...

Hey guys, my X220 has been on fire recently so I'm cleaning the fan [spoiler]for the first time ever[/spoiler].

I've heard it's possible to fry your motherboard if the fan spins? Is this true?

>>59942141
disconnect the fan header and you should be fine, although, there is very little chance of anything happening anyway

>>59941957
I plan on upgrading an x220 RAM to 8gb or even 16gb. Will that be good for the performance? I'm also thinking about playing the movies on an external HDD.

>>59942185
for video? it won't matter. same with the usb drive.

>>59942141
You won't be able to make it spin so fast that it'll fry anything.

>>59938338

T430 is pretty decent.....for a Noob. Keyboard is shit compared to a T420

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>>59935749
T410, I guess this is fine.

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>>59935749
>T520

Once my NVS heatsink and liquid metal TIM arrive I should hope to get idle temps in the 20s. However I imagine they'll shoot right back up to 40s/50s once I throw in one of the high end quad core chips.

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>>59935749
T420, i5. 45 chrome tabs open and VLC

Why does everyone on /g/ recommend the x220 / t420 over the x230 / t430 when it seems to be the opposite on literally every other site/forum? ThinkPill me on this one boys

>>59942618
The plebs here are too plebby to do the EC flash to enable the xx20 keyboard on the xx30, so they erroneously recommend the older models.

Personally I've found, assuming the best OEMs for each model (since they're all multi-sourced), that the xx30 island keyboard feels slightly better in terms of its key travel/actuation than the older keyboard, which I personally think is a much greater advantage than the slightly inferior layout. Who cares about a few 11 row keys that you'll rarely use when your keyboard feels sub-optimal.

>>59940750
insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/

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>>59942182
>>59942248
Welp now I've got a fan error on startup (after holding the fan so it doesn't spin). All I did was apply a little compressed air. I didn't remove the fan or anything.

Be right back, killing self.

>>59942742
Why the fuck would you do such thing

>>59942663
>multi-sourcing

This pisses me off so much.

My dad's T410s had a beautiful, crisp feel to the keys and was a joy to type on. My W520, when it first came, had a more imprecise and mushy feel. And they're the SAME FUCKING PART. It was the same deal on my T61 before; I wrecked the keyboard with coffee and ordered a replacement that felt noticeably worse then I salvaged a keyboard from a T60 and it's was better than the one that was there in the first place.

In the end it worked out because my dad uses an external keyboard so I just asked him if I could swap the T410s keyboard with the W520 one and everything is great now. But you think Lenovo could get some fucking consistency. They do this shit with their screens too; some have pulse-width modulation with shit viewing angles and others do not. Whichever you end up with ultimately comes down to luck.

>>59942742
I had this with my T400. Turn the machine off, take the battery out for half an hour and plug it back in. Fan error will probably go away.

>>59942785
Do what? Apply compressed air?

>>59942840
Why would you want to stop your fan from spinning?

>>59942663
It seems that the main reason for people to recommend the xx20 over the xx30 is "muh keyboard" and "muh lack of whitelists" but it looks like there are methods to switch the keyboards AND you can flash the bios for them too

>>59942838
Alright thanks I'll try this.

Honestly though the fan might be dead, it's been acting funny for the past couple days. Blowing hard for a minute on idle, then doing nothing. Only did it when I was running Windows, Ubuntu was totally fine.

Anyone know how long it takes for a new fan to ship in?

Alternatively I might do >>59942663, and grab an X230 and throw the old keyboard on. Just seems a shame to waste a 9 cell X220 battery.

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>>59942855
I-I thought it wasn't supposed to let the fan spin? I googled my issue (like /g/ and 4chan always suggests) and every site I looked at said if I didn't stop the fan from spinning, it could fry the motherboard.

None of them suggested keeping the fan from spinning damaged it.

>>59942742
Reseat the fan connector. The force of compressed air can be enough to unplug small connectors like that.

>>59942278
>T430 is pretty decent.....for a Noob.
>.....for a Noob.
That settles it then. T430 it is.

With tpfancontrol should I just install and set it to "smart" and forget and or is there better way to do things?

>>59942929
Alright I'll try that after I give >>59942838 a shot.

>>59942918
Stopping a fan from spinning while it is turned on isn't a big deal. Letting it spin while it is turned off isn't a big deal. Your issue is elsewhere. Does it spin at all when you turn on the computer now?

If not, double check the connector for it.

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Looking at W520s on ebay. How come some 15.6" screens, all with nVidia Quadro 1000M, say 1600X900 while others say 1920x1080. I know they both scale into each other. Are some dummies just unaware they can scale up to 1920x1080? Or are those machines locked at 1600x900 for some reason?

>>59943543
There were three panels offered for the W520, 1366x768, 1600x900, and 1920x1080. Not everyone picked 1920x1080 when they ordered theirs, so there's some with the lesser panels on the used market. You can upgrade them yourself, but generally it's just easier and cheaper to just find one that already has the best panel.

>>59942535
I've got a t430 and t420 and unless it's just sitting there doing nothing it's usually at 45-50c under very light load
20c is like room temp, and I highly doubt your cpu and gpu would be producing little to no heat at all.

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Talk me out of a chinkpad13

Can a t420 run rocket league?

Got a free A31, it's really cool looking but I don't really know what to do with it. Any ideas?

>>59945367
>Got a free A31, it's really cool looking but I don't really know what to do with it. Any ideas?

Watch hentai

>>59943174
Well it seems like the fan is dead. I took apart the whole damn thing, and it looked like the fan didn't disconnect. At any rate I tried to put it in even more. When I put it all together again I got the same error.

Looks like the fan is truly dead.

I'm now taking fan suggestions.

>>59945154
The answer is yes at 720p quite handily

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>mfw my 8460p has a fucking modem on it

Who the fuck would need this?

>>59937583
That'd actually be pretty cool

>>59937209
Yes and yes.

>>59944367
>ugly
>keyboard
>bezel
>only 3 buttons on trackpad

Just do yourself a favor and get an x220 or a t420

finally upgraded my t420, but my new laptop isn't a thinkpad.
Xps 15, how did I do?

>>59946125
>but my new laptop isn't a thinkpad.

Red flag

>>59944367
Didnt know they made Ideapads with a trackpoint

>>59935703
I made the mistake of buying a t420s and I'm having some bad overheating issues

it reaches 65C idle sometimes and if I dare play fallout 2 it hits 85C

I tried TPfancontrol but higher fan speeds don't do anything

Its under warranty though, should I send it back or just try to fix it myself.

>>59946196
Get some good thermal paste on it my dude, it probably has its old ass original paste

I've been trying to decide between the x230 and the t430 for a while now. I want to get a decently small laptop to lug around for class and shit, but I also what to be able to use an eGPU to do some light gaymen now and then. What's the best model for this of the two? Does one have extra PCIe slots or different expresscard tech? For some reason people online love to blatantly lie about the specs, so I'm not sure; the wiki says the t430 has a full size mPCIe slot, is that better to use over the expresscard? Does the x230 have something similar?

Just bought a t420 the other day, haven't got my battery or OS yet, already thinking I should have gotten a t430 or 440 instead, what do you think?

I'd like at least 10 hours of battery life on it, and it doesn't seem like my t420 can do that (with the 9 cell). It looks like I may be able to upgrade the t430 to a quadcore and still get that 10 hours

I'm not too fussed about the layout of the keyboard I just want the same feel as the t420 (travel time, tactility). I've heard bad things about the trackpad for the t440 being too clicky or something.

>>59946430
are there any good tutorials or anything on how to go about doing this?

I've put together desktop PCs before but ive never taken apart laptops

>>59946538
I have a t420. You're not going to get close to ten hours on a 9 cell. If you need ten hours you're gonna need a backup battery or a slice which makes the thing enormous.

>>59946517
both have mPCIe, x230 is under the palmrest and T430 is next to ram stick on bottom.
If you want more portability (and possibility of IPS screen), go with the X230. If you want a comfier size and more resolution, go with the T430. You /can/ get a discrete GPU in a T430, but its not going to be good as something external.

>>59946538
>10 hours
I'd be really surprised if the T430 got anywhere near that, especially with a quad. You should get a solid 6-7 from the T420 with the 9 cell though. And if you're ballsy you can do the mods to use that 9 cell in a T430 if you pick one up.
Only bad thing I've heard about the T440 trackpad is the lack of TrackPoint buttons which (despite being fixable by swapping a T450 trackpad in) is unforgivable.

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whats the highest resolution i can get on a x220

>>59946667
Depends how /pure/ it is. There are mods to give them 1080p screens but they are pretty intensive. In terms of native screens it is 1366x768


>12.5" (317.5mm) HD (1366x768) TFT color
Anti-glare
LED backlight
200 nits
16:9 aspect ratio
300:1 contrast ratio

>(Premium) 12.5" (317.5mm) HD (1366x768) TFT color
Anti-glare
LED backlight
300 nits
16:9 aspect ratio
500:1 contrast ratio
IPS
WideView (170° viewing)

>>59946750
thanks

what about a x230

>>59936240
Nije lose, ali sto ce ti 1080p video na toj rezoluciji?

>>59946783
It uses the exact same screens afaik

>>59946892
thanks

>>59946554
never mind, I watched a video and read something about it and this is all beyond me I'm just going to have to send this piece of shit back

Why do anons here think newer Thinkpads are meme's exactly?

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>>59947101
everything is a meme

>>59946196
Send it back and get a t420

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>>59947101
There's a few factors. Most important is that used older models are so cheap that buying the new stuff just because some neckbeard hasn't gotten his DNA all over it doesn't make economical sense. Secondly, Lenovo has been trying to make their new shit look less corporate dadrock and more hipster Applefied. Lenovo makes plenty of lines of notebooks, plenty of which are perfectly suited to be simple modern MacFag clones. Thinkpads shouldn't be included in there. Or at the very least not ALL Thinkpads should be included in there.

So, save some money, get a better product. It'll be used and have a scratch or two and some dust, but if you want anything else you're a faggot.

Are thinkpads still the primary business laptop? Are we still going to be getting secondhand thinkpads at bargain prices in 5 years? 10 years?

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>>59942618

What is the maximum amount of ram that an x220 can support?

Just wondering about it before I decide to spend money in order to bump it up to 16GB

>>59941483
Should be coming in the day after tomorrow. It's still in warranty with Lenovo and looks hardly used.

I have a question about swapping out the trackpad - do I need to swap the ribbon cable from the T440p with the one that comes from a T450 trackpad for it to work? I know there are issues with the ALPS hardware version as to the Synaptic's one so I can purchase a complete palm rest for the same price as just the trackpad.

>>59947791
If you've got a 64 bit operating system, up to 16.

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I'm doing some pretty complex surgery on my x61 tablet replacing the fan, but I have to take the motherboard out. The right side here appears to be stuck, but I can't find any screws that would keep it in anywhere.

>>59947542

Enjoy your chink firework batteries.

>>59942618

>>59942663
the only downside on the x230/t430 imo, is that if you want AC wifi, i'ts a pain the the ass to flash the bios.
Everything else is better on the 30 series, yes even the keyboard.

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>>59937489
From this photo only the FHD T430s I use and a second one is my prized A31p
The others were intended to be sold.

>>59938151
Kinda
Some deteriorate faster than others.
IMO year warranties are the best buys, just make sure you follow the charge up/down procedures.

>>59938309
T440p was surprisingly well with intel graphics when I rendered 1080p video
Then again, I was used to rendering vids with my W700ds til 2016.

>>59939714
Hard case
I don't think so.
If you can find a deal on a W530 w/ K2000m, maybe, but it's not a cheap ThinkPad.
Hell even the W500 goes for $200 at times.

My A31p runs Win XP PE edition
The CPU throttles on web pages, but damn them speakers. I stream DI FM off of Media Player Classic.

I would think maybe Win2K? Zorin may be a good choice, but I am thinking of Netrunner or even Mint can be nice too.

>>59940191
Its real easy, I did a video of it.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvokhDoyQ0s
There are no screws on the LCD bezel, so it comes off if you pull it and twist the inside to a 45 degree angle.

Afterwards you have (i think) 4 screws retaining the LCD on the corners.

Rotate the top of the lid towards you, remove the LCD ribbon cable (its taped a bit), put in a new FHD screen. No cable swap needed.

>>59940547
The bios locks are easy
You basically can reset it by saying you want to reset it because you forgot the password lol

It only fucks if the HDD was set with a password with it.

>>59941698
Paid $1 too much :P

>>59942618
Keyboard layout and the OEM battery lockout.
Literally does not matter if you are new to a ThinkPad, any ivy bridge T/X/W will be fine (except the T430u)

For the keyboard feel, T420 isn't anything to rave about when it is a big step down from T6x & R6x models.

>>59942918
you might have a dust bunny clogged in there.
Had to do a full gut on a POS toshiba once before.
You did shut down your computer before you dusted it, right?

Hold me /g/, I broke the screen on my x240. A..a.at least now I can upgrade the monitor to 1080p.

I wanna buy a laptop for my mom. It should be quiet and not too hot while skyping with relatives. Lightweight would be good too, but 14 to 15 inch display is minimum, and battery life is largely irrelevant. Photoshop will also be used on it, but very lightly (color correcting pictures of clothes for sale).
I don't mind spending a few hundred bucks on it so I don't need a cheap T420 to upgrade myself. Are T460s or T560s worth their money?
Also what do the letters at the end of thinkpad models mean?

>>59948724
when are you gonna update your page with more mods?
also thoughts on the x131e?
they are as expensive as a x220 on ebay IIRC

>>59948724
What would you say are best thinkpads for people that type a lot?

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>>59944367
It's a pretty gud E/L series ThinkPad with the best screen size.

>>59945367
blare music on it, fuck with the s-video in/out, be surprised its a fairly expensive model to upkeep and sell.

>>59945730
E6420 has it and E6430 had it as an option

>>59946125
Go hang out with Macfags and HP Envy cucks
It's not a business laptop, just an ultrabook.

>>59948469
Been awhile since I worked on my X61T's
I think the HDD interposer card gets caught on something, its actually removable.
Did you read the HMM?
There mgiht be a hidden screw somewhere.

>>59948788
I'm really bad at recording myself and making 'good' videos.
Then when it comes to editing, I suck bawls

Been wanting to do the cache things again, but I just stall and dont want to edit

For me the 11" X1xx series are small
I do love my X131e though, it has an i3, mSATA & SSD. Some X-Series come with 64GB SanDisk SSDs that can be cheap to buy.

>>59948812
When i got my pixel, I actually started typing more than I did with Thinkpads...

X300 Series
14" 16:10 R61
14" 4:3 T60p
W520
8760w
E6430s

Legacy in my opinion
755
T30
15" T43p
770
600
365

Some say 600X > T30 > X300 or T43p

I did like the X1C3, but build and performance bugged me.

>>59948753
Late 09 Unibody Macbook 13 w/ SSD

>>59948753
get a W530

>>59948907
>Late 09 Unibody Macbook 13 w/ SSD
>2009
>not hot
>photoshop
did you actually read the whole post or you skimmed through it like you skim through your prescription?

Anyone ever do the hardware hack to get ac wifi on an x230? I am getting a modded x230 with 1440p resolution screen and I want to max it's wifi capabilities with this mod.

>>59935749
53C right now while browsing 4chins. To be expected of an i7 X220 housefire.

Anyone with a t420 (hd 3000) played warframe recently on it?
I know the gpu handles it quite well, but i was curious of how it fares these days. Bonus points if your t420 has dual-channel ram.

>>59949100
>a modded x230 with 1440p resolution screen
WHERE!!!
I want one. the chink one?

T530 with nbidya grabics and 1600x900 display coming on Thursday lads! It's for my older sister but I'm going to be sneaking on to it to play some semi-modern gayms.

I have some questions.

How do I fix the screen when it has snapped/cracked at the top? Is it as simple as replacing the bevel?
Are all the chink batteries the same? Does not seem like anyone distinguishes between them. An OEM battery would cost 3x the price of a chink one and take longer to ship.
Do chink batteries that advertise as being for the x230 bypass the OEM lock?

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>>59948501
>Enjoy your chink firework batteries.

>>59942918
You stop the fan from spinning while cleaning with the device powered off. If you hinder the fan while the device is on it will fry the fan motor.

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this looks really cool should I buy this should I buy this should I buy this

>>59949701
buy a P70 you limpwristed manlet

>>59949720
>$1,574
Just how many dicks do I have to suck to get this?
also
>17.3"

>>59949758
You can easily double that price if you fully spec out a P70

about to pull the trigger on a Thinkpad 420. it's the base model, it will be used as a laptop for programming and Linux + anime on the go. am not buying one with the dedicated GPU for more battery life, I have a question. can I run both a 9 cell battery and a slice battery at the same time? if both are new, what sort of battery life would I get using a setup like this?

>>59949805
*T420

>>59949805
12 hours

>>59949817
can I auctally run both batteries at the same time? will both a 9 cell battery and a slice both fit on the laptop at the same time?

>>59949824
yes

>>59949836
great. one last question. will the same batteries fit on a X220? and will both fit at the same time like on the T420?

>>59949848
yes

waiting my new 9 cell battery for x200
does anyone use this laptop in public? i feel kinda uncomfortable

>>59946629
hmmm, I think lenovo claimed on their website "up to 15 hours or something and a few reviews were saying like 12/13 hours on those continuous web surfing tests.

Would a quad core lower it all that much? most of them are only 45 watts tdp compared to 35 for the dual core ones, a 30 percent increase but the screen (and other bits) are drawing the same power on both.

>>59947424
maybe they'll start going back their roots that they've pretty much made the thinkpad 13 to cater for that shitty demographic that want laptops like that (that wouldn't buy a thinkpad anyway)

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Can anyone identify this ThinkPad?

>>59950087
go to /r/thinkpad
its way better than this retarded thread

Why don't any chink 6cell batteries for the x220 have 5600mAh like the lenovo ones?

Finally got my tax return, whats the absolute best 4:3 thinkpad I can get for 700 or under?

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>>59935749

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>>59950087
That one is part of the Thinkpad Lefty series

Theres also the Thinkpad Righty series if you are interested

>>59950634
X62

>>59949934
No anon, nobody at all uses a portable computer outside of their homes.
Anyone who's able to differentiate between different laptops isn't going to be judging you.

>>59950222
Because then they'd be competing with Lenovo. If they actually put good cells in then they wouldn't be all that cheaper, and most people are going to be skeptical of chink batteries having anything but bargain bin cells anyway so they won't pay that much. Not like most people going for a 6 cell are going for huge battery life anyway.

>>59951013
excellent, this is exactly what I was after, thanks a bunch mate

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>>59950087
>>59950969
poorfags

>>59950969
Your picture is ThinkPad lefty dumbass. You put the numpad on the left.

>>59950087
Google identifies it as "t420s fhd mod"
Not sure if it is right though.

>>59950087
T550

Do all x220's come with a finger print reader or do I have to buy one and attach it?

>>59951737
Some do not have finger print readers, or webcams, or both.

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>>59951228
Don't give them any more ideas or they might infect the ThinkPad line with that Halo keyboard

>>59951737
Optional. Just bear in mind if it doesn't that you'll need a whole palmrest with the cutout for the fingerprint reader too (which may include the reader itself, a bonus to you I guess)

>>59942955
why settle when you can drop in a 3720qm processor, overclock the ram to 2133 and fit in a 2k panel?

>>59952547
Because I want a cheap laptop which is decent that I can use for shits and giggles and experimentation without worrying about a month's salary going down the drain.

Hi /tpg/! I've never posted on this gen before, but I've lurked it a little in the past. Now I'm looking for your thoughts! I just got into a coding bootcamp and I'm super psyched about it. I need a laptop to do work in the classroom and on the go, but just about every red cent I had was spent on the course. I've got about two hundred dollars in my budget for a laptop. It has to be sturdy, but it doesn't necessarily have to be powerful, as I can remotely access my beefy desktop for any sort of big code compiling. It just has to run things like Sublime and maybe compile some simple stuff on the fly.

I was thinking of buying a refurb Thinkpad t420 for about $150. It looks like a solid piece of equipment that would serve me well. Am I making the right choice? Do you know of a better alternative to consider? I can spend a little more, but it'd eat into my food budget!

>>59953678
do it and ignore everyone else bragging about their goybooks and gaymen laptops

>>59953678
>coding bootcamp
lmao

>>59953724
Okay! I will! Should I spend the extra $100 on the additional 4gb of ram? Will it make a huge difference? I wouldn't mind spending $250 on a laptop that'll be hardy. Is working on a thinkpad /comfy/?

>>59953730
They've got great hiring rates, and I don't have the money or time to go back to school for 2 years and get a info-tech or CS degree!

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Where the hell are you guys buying them from?

Can a t420 run Doom 2?

>>59953678
>>59953812
jesus why do you talk like a faggot?
are you female, canadian or both?

>>59953888
There are no girls on the internet, remember? :^)

>>59953678
>but just about every red cent I had was spent on the course
Sounds about right

These coding bootcamps are the most amazing scam since Caribbean medical schools

>>59953868
Doom 1 maybe, Doom 2 you'll need an external gpu for

>>59935703
just bought a refurbished w520 from ebay
what should i do to it?
how do you update the drivers and all of that?

can a w520 run overwatch?

>>59953995
It was 9k and I'm a poor-ass post college wagecuck. My marketability is alright, but it's hard to live in Baltimore (I'm not a nog), work, pay the bills, feed myself, and still have time/money left over to save much money.

I want to get a more valuable skillset and leave this hellhole of a city. Or at least get a better job in said hellhole. If it's a bust, at least I tried.

>>59954016
But Doom and Doom 2 use essentially identical engines.

>>59954062
someone help pls

>>59954256
Do you have it right now? I would, personally, boot and nuke the machine and freshly install Windows or Linux or whatever you want to put on it. Then install all the current drivers and make sure everything is up to date.

>>59954100
Most likely not in any respectable capacity. Now Doom II on the other hand...

>>59953868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM65c5ThoeA

This guy is playing Doom 4 on the hd3000, same one on the t420.

I guess Doom 2 runs fine.

>>59954305
how would i do that? i'm pretty tech illiterate really
it was listed as manufacture refurbished

>>59938111
it's in the BIOS, clown. LMGTFY

>>59954100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr5ZCF-15-8

Overwatch on a quadro2000

You may get better results, maybe worse, but i guess with some tweaks you can get your 30fps average, just dont expect much.

>>59953868
Doom 2 would run on a 386... why wouldnt it work on a i5? what's the rational I am missing here? I even ran doom on my x220 on freedos. I don't understand your question??

YES IT CAN RUN DOOM2.

If you want sound you may want to use dosbox, but there are also better engines today that run on top of Windows.

halp tpg,
I bought a used t420 and need a new battery (old one lasts for 1h of moviewatching after recalibrating). I have no idea where to get Laptop parts in Europe, can you recommend me some battery models?

>>59954305
also i bought a new ssd

>>59954332
That's really impressive.

>>59954373
I think he is memeing us. The joke is that Doom runs on everything. dosbox is alright, but the real action's at QZDoom these days. The dev has a really good software rendering system. I've never seen the game so smooth.

>>59954305
>boot and nuke
what do you mean by that?
factory reset?

>>59954349
>>59954404
Google Darik's Boot and Nuke (aka DBAN) and download the software. Read about what it does before you use it.

However if you bought a SSD to swap out with your HDD, you won't need to scrub it before use. Just pop open your machine and replace the drive. However, I would recommend you check youtube for a video or two on exactly how to do it. I, personally, have zero experience opening up thinkpads and modifying their guts.

This also might be a silly question, but do you have a new Windows installation to install on the new SSD?

>>59954472
I think he's talking about DBAN. I use it at work all the time when I'm about to toss a drive, or when I'm reconfiguring a computer for a new user. It might be overkill, but it keeps my headaches to a minimum in the future.

>>59954476
>but do you have a new Windows installation to install on the new SSD?
i don't think so do i need to go buy one?
like i said i'm tech illiterate
this is the one a bought
https://www.amazon.com/HGST-Travelstar-2-5-Inch-Internal-0J22423/dp/B00B4QESVQ

>>59954555
So, it depends. You can reinstall an OS if you have the physical OS CD and the product key associated with the computer that you're going to be putting it on. Typically Windows pairs a product serial to a specific machine, so you can't use the same installation of Windows with multiple boxes.

Is the ebay seller shipping the associated Windows installer CD and product key with the w520? If so, you should be able to swap the drives and move the installation over to your new drive. Though you'd probably have to verify over the phone.

If you don't have the CD and key, you're probably going to have to buy another copy of Windows, unfortunately.

Also, what you linked me to is definitely not a Solid State Drive. It's a High Definition Drive. SSDs don't spin, but HDD do.

>>59954664
>Also, what you linked me to is definitely not a Solid State Drive. It's a High Definition Drive. SSDs don't spin, but HDD do.
is that a bad thing?

>>59954664
Now how much am i going to have to pay for windows 7?

>>59954712
No. But you said you bought a SSD and then linked me to the HDD. I just want you to know that you didn't buy a SSD if that's the item you purchased. You bought a HDD. They're slower and wear down. Some people would say that they have a higher failure rate than SSDs due to moving parts.

>>59954728
You can google around for prices, but you can pick up W7 Pro for like $20 pretty easily. Don't sweat that.

>>59954728
There are also some methods for migrating your OS, but if you are confident in your ability to do it, you might want to give them a miss and just spend the little extra money.

>>59954793
Damn it someone from this general told me i should buy that
what how much would i be paying for a 1tb ssd? can you link me to one?

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I think I fucked changing the fan out, I couldn't get the power clip out of the old one and it got stuck, the cords came out but a remnant of the plastic is stuck. I tried a screwdriver, and nail clippers to get the piece out. Rip thinkpad x61 if I can't get that piece out

>>59954866
If you're looking for a tb, that recommendation was pretty solid. See, a 1tb SSD of midgrade and up quality (you don't want to jew out on your data storage, you get what you pay for) is going to run you $200+ dollars easily. With a SSD, you're paying for speed, not space.

Most people use their SSDs for their OS (which makes the whole computer run much faster) and a game or two (which decreases load times significantly). They don't use them to store all of their files and whatever, it's a waste. SSDs are for high access files. HDDs are for media and other less demanding data. Many users get a small SSD for their OS and then use a HDD for everything else.

When you're trying to figure out what sort of drive you should be getting, you've got to take the overall value of the machine in which you intend to install it into consideration. An unrefurb w520 is goes for, what, $300 max? It doesn't make sense to put a $250 SSD into it, you know? That HDD, on the other hand, is cheap, will read/write acceptably well, and will last you as long as you're going to need it.

After all this, if you're still set on getting a SSD, I can link you a few SSDs.

>>59955130
so i can use a hdd and sdd at the same time? this is confusining
if i put the hdd in what kind of sdd should i get?

>>59955130
I paid $400 for mine with the quadro 2000m i7

T400 can use 2 SSD/HDDs right?

>>59955130
this is the one i bought if that helps
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282125232200?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I bought a X201 off some used electronics store in Tokyo that came with the japanese keyboard. Anyone knows how to make use of the additional symbols and kana layers?

>>59955182
Yeah, I'm not sure exactly about the w520, but in the t420, you can pop out the disk drive, get an adapter, and slip another hard drive into the bay. So to try and alleviate your confusion:

Laptops have a bay for a hard drive. It's somewhere integrated into the body of the machine. You can open that pay up and pull the drive out and put a new one in there. In many (most?) laptops, there is a CD disk drive. Many machines let you pop the whole CD disk drive out of the body and use an adapter to slide another hard drive in. So you could have two drives active at once.

So yes, you can use two at the same time. You'll have a primary drive which will have your OS (and maybe Doom II?) on it and a secondary drive with whatever else on it. It's good for keeping the price point down.

What's your budget for a SSD?

Looking at the ebay listing, you can do what I described above and have two drives operating at once. I would strongly recommend a fairly small SSD for your OS, you'll be able to stick the tb HDD you bought into the CD drive (assuming you're alright with that).

>>59955193
Fair enough, but even then, I wouldn't be able to justify buying a tb SSD to myself.

>>59955413
you mean this thing? https://www.amazon.com/Nimitz-Drive-Caddy-Lenovo-Thinkpad/dp/B00NAMU8NO/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1492536668&sr=8-11&keywords=thinkpad+ssd

>>59955413
>(assuming you're alright with that).
why would i not be? and i don't know about budget i guess what evers cheap but still good

>>59955485
Exactly. You can find great video guides for how to do this online.

>>59955505
Some people like to use disks for backup or something. I'm not one of them, but there are some who just like having a disk drive on hand.

I think a Crucial BX200 would suit your needs pretty well. They're about $100 for 240gb. Your OS'll take about 16gb or so of it. What do you want to do with the computer? If you're looking to game on it, you'll be able to install Steam and some games, or the Blizz launcher and OW on it.

Crucial is a reliable brand. Google around for the best prices, if you don't like this one:

https://jet.com/product/detail/bae4183a434843e3bb263050680d04c0?jcmp=pla:ggl:NJ_dur_Cwin_Electronics_a1:Electronics_Computers__Accessories_Data_Storage_a1:na:PLA_785510854_39764711743_pla-290891427262:na:na:na:2&code=PLA15

>>59955553
Another good SSD is the CS1311. It's worth waiting for a discount, though. Sometimes they drop to $55!

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7v38TW/pny-internal-hard-drive-ssd7cs1311240rb?history_days=730

>>59955553
Some games and just 4chan and anime i guess
are you sure i shouldn't just buy a 1tb for $280?

>>59955651
If you want to spend that, go for it, my dude. That's why I wanted to know what your budget was. I'm a big fan of spending as little as possible for the best results. When it comes to computers, they can always, always be faster and more powerful. But you can be let yourself be constrained by a budget so you don't spend 14 grand on a triple SLI Titan build.

How much are you looking to spend?

>>59955707
eh i figure i should get a 1tb ssd since i already paid $400 for the laptop and plan on using it for years
and i'm not sure how i feel on not having a disc drive and 2 seperate hard drives but i don't know anything about tech

>>59955872
Then look for an EVO 850 PRO SSD on Newegg. I can tell you that you'll be spending a lot of money on what will most likely not noticeably change your user experience. There's a diminishing return on using a SSD in your machine.

OS= Huge difference
Games= Pretty significant difference
Applications= Significant loading difference
Compiling code= Depends on your CPU, but faster
Media= Slightly faster
Pictures, word docs, internet browsing= About the same.

Follow your heart if you've got the money to spend.

Should I buy a dockstation for my X201?

How does it work with Botnet 10?

>>59955872
Look for 850 EVO or PRO then.

>>59955966
$480 for 1tb it's $280 on amazon for the crucial sdd what makes the evo better?

the keyboard on my t420 randomly broke just now, the a key spams random letters and mutes and the click buttons next to the touch point dont work anymore

Any ideas as to what just happened?

>>59956072
850 EVO is the best SSD you can get when it comes to SATA SSDs.

Unlike other SSDs it doesn't have the SLC cache problem where performance drops when you use it.
Also the 3D TLC NAND will outlast your computer.

Crucial "MLC" dies really fast btw.

>>59955966
hmm okay so i should get the crucial sdd and then just put my hdd in the disc drive thing and just use the sdd for games and the hdd for like videos and everything else right? you never need a disc drive for anything really anyway do you?

>>59956153
That's what I would do. My desktop doesn't even have a CD drive. I've never needed one in the 3 years I've used it.

>>59956314
Okay thanks so from what i understan unless your going to be downloading 1tb or more of games or are rich it's dumb to buy a 1tb ssd?

>>59956314
how much faster does a ssd make games and the os anyway like 20%?

>>59956153
To me, the best use of my money would be ~$100 on a ~250gb SSD, and an extra ~$100 on a 2TB HDD. ~$200 total, plenty of space for what you need on both.

>>59956555
okay thank you i should buy the 64 bit windows 7 right? sorry for all these questions

>>59956551
mostly for games that have big maps, making them load faster

>>59956647
No, you should pirate it.

32bit if <=4gb ram, 64bit if >4gb ram

>>59956833
really? i'm going to have a hard time installing it normally and i can buy it for $50

Hey you guys said once i completely remove the old hard drive that i won't need to wipe the computer anymore right?

Looking for a new laptop guys and i think i want a thankpad. How does the NVIDIA GEFORE gtx 980m hold up in games? Thats the one that the thankpad laptop im looking at has . Will it play games good?

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>>59956940
Dude... are you really this oblivious? Where exactly do you think data is stored?

>>59957117
The computer is built to contain the operating system

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>>59957133

>>59957161
Is there a way to delete it

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>>59957133

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>>59957189
>>59957133
>>59956940

>>59953848
Ebay, ex business lease

What are some wacom-digitizer thikpads with cheaply available replacement panels?

>>59956901
>>59956833
The operating system is the one piece of software you should never, ever pirate. It's bad enough having the CIA/NSA botnet without adding a sketchy Chinese or Russian sub-botnet on top of it.

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>>59956940

>>59938111
They are better that way, stop being a faggot

>>59943632
I can get my w500 to idle at 35c. are you even trying? also I'm pretty sure he;s just installing the heatsink for the nvs model, without the nvs chip.

>>59953672
i mean drop it into the t430 that's what im going to get soon

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My T410 overheats frequently now, the battery lasts about 2 hours at the very most
and I can smell something burning whenever I use it now.

Seeing as it's fairly old would there a laptop I could buy for less than £350 that is better the T410?
I quite like thinkpads for the red ball but everything seems so bloated in terms of price,
even outside of thinkpads I keep finding laptops which have worse specs than my T410

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>>59959307
>not even 2 hours desu
>forgot pic related

anyone know if there are 1.43 bios mod for x220t? or the one for x220 works too?

anyone interested in buying a thinkpad 380ED?
i cant find a job so i gotta sell off muh thinkpads

>>59959307
the reason thinkpads are so cheap have to do with office laptop cycles
office buys 20 laptops, replaces them 4 years later, they get sold en-masse to re-sellers who have to sell them at low prices
hence good specs for low price
so things that were not in that cycle, consumer laptops, get more expensive

a good cheap upgrade would be more luck than anything, a max specced t420 can be within that price range, but then its still just a t420 over a t410, why bother ya know?
maybe t430 but same issue, not that big of a performance increase

look into things like elitebooks or dell latitiudes, they can sometimes go for cheaper than a comparable thinkpad due to people preferring thinkpads for used business laptops

x201 for $200 AUD, about 150usd, with a 360gig ssd and 4gig ram.

Cop?

>>59959507
are thinkpads the only laptops to have the red nub, I really like that about a laptop it's a simple thing but that would sway me a lot considering how much I use it

>>59959509
don't spend that much money on something that old
just get an x220 with no hdd/ram for like $80-100, ram for $20-30, and a used 250gb ssd for like $50-$70

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>>59959619
both hp and dell also have them on some models

>>59958266
that's idle
try actually using the laptop for a bit
>>59959653
HP and Dell's nipples are nowhere near as good as the think nipple

>>59959678
Don't the patents on the Thinknipple™ expire this year? If HP and Dell were smart they would just copy them. It is literally the only thing at this point that's preventing me from abandoning Lenovo and their bullshit entirely.

>>59959678
Yeah, we have some at my school and they're not as comfy.

>>59959653
What's the keyboard style on that dell and the thinkpads called?
I hate the new island style spaced keyboards on the new thinkpads

>>59959761
its not really named, its just generally considered "compact keys", where theyre all close together
spaced out keys are refered to as chiclet keys since they look like chiclets and have lots of space between them
the reason they have lots of space is because theyre so flat, without angles or sloped edges they would make just one big flat surface that offers absolutely no touch feedback when typing

You guys have probably been asked this a million times before, but please humour me. What do you guys even do on your ThinkPads? Are the specs still good enough for modern use?

>>59935703
Can you guys please tell me how to clean out my T410i laptop? It's full of dust, I'm too dumb to take out the parts including the fan and heat sink and replace them while taking dust out

Is there a place that could do this for me? My thinkpad is out of warranty, I've had this for years. But Im willing to pay so this shit is good as new, so who could help me? Can Lenovo still take this back and pay them so they can do it for me? Do I go to staples tech help? The fuck do I do now?

>>59960309
personally, I use it for programming, ie simple text editing.
also web browsing, animu video watching

I like how non descript it is compared to an apple laptop. very few looks when I take it out.
durability and the feeling like I don't have to handle it with kids gloves, the way I did with my old macbook.
power to price ratio is great compared to an apple product.

>>59960309
My W520 plays games and encodes video like a champ. I doubt $400 would get anything even remotely comparable new.

>>59960309
Mostly text, some video in 1080p, and all jazz that a cellphone can do, if even better.
Processors have not avanced in terms of raw speed in this years. Only with the launching of Notebook Ryzen cores we will see some significant improvement but it will no be that significant to change a laptop.

>>59960309
the semi modern ones, yeah
T410 and up are still good for shitposting/video/very light gaming

Older stuff is more for shitposting only, my T42 is still ok for regular web browsing, but not much more than some really old games (Empire Earth, Halo CE, CS 1.6)
Earlier than that and youre in collector territory.
>>59960387
find a local computer repair place or a best buy or whatever and see if they offer cleaning services
ONLY get cleaning, its their job to fuck you over and try to get you to buy some extra shit, just have them remove the dust and be done with it

otherwise, just blow dust remover through it
if you can follow a guide to remove the keyboard and plastic cover on the palmrest and shit, you can see the fan and clean that directly

>>59956087
Water damage??

>>59960442
For 400 dollars, you could get a horribly slow and very gimped brand new laptop. Old business laptops is great value.

>>59950087
Looks like a P50.

>>59959465
Sure, I'll give u $100 thru PayPal because it's safe and secure and I can get file a claim 'significantly not as described' and get every single dime back.

>>59957612
I will answer your vague question with another

ThinkPad tablets that have an abundance of parts have cheap panel replacement.

>>59956941
>can't google GTX980 laptop gaming review

Not most of us buy these for gaming, btw, hence the no replies

Ok, im a bit confused now, following those numbers i got from notebookcheck.

The intel hd3000 on t420:
Intel Core i5-2520M 2 x 2500 MHz, 35 W 650 MHz 1300 MHz


The intel hd4000 on the t430:
Intel Core i5-3320M 2 x 2600 MHz, 35 W 650 MHz 1200 MHz

How much better exactly is the HD4000 in the end? Anyone who owned both could tell me the difference you saw while doing photoshop work, video editing, and of course, gaming?

>>59940191
I really enjoy my t440 except one glaring issue, the intel ac-7260 wireless adapter is a piece of flaming dog shit. I can't get any traffic on wireless-n and had to disable it completely on my router. I get satisfactory speeds on g, so im not terribly unhappy. the bios has a whitelist so only specific wireless adapters will work. Shit sucks hard.

Otherwise everything is pretty good, I could replace pretty much any part I want, including the screen and the trackpad.

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>>59935703

Is this worth? The Kaby lake shit is almost the exact same and this is $350 off right now.

>>59953812
You can buy an extra 4gb of ram later for like 30$. Just try it with 4gb and see if it's enough for you. If you dont play games it will be more than enough.

Also, thinkpad t420 is incredibly comfy. Especiallt the t420 and x220 models

>>59963631
t470

>>59954381
Try the cheap ones on Ebay if possible. Sometimes they're pretty shitty but sometimes they're great. around 20$USD

>>59964052
Not him, but can you link some good chink thinkpad t420 batteries? Are they hot swappable? I want an extended one, but the official regular battery I have is still pretty good.

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The W520 keyboard is harder to type on than my x201. It feels as though the w520 keyboard is larger. Aren't they both full-sized?

>>59964162
you're just imagining things anon, and it's probably because the W520 has a much bigger palmrest compared to the X201. I'd know since I have both

Anyone else having high temps in Windows 10? My x220 is at 73ºC idling, this didn't happen in Windows 8.1 or Kubuntu

>>59964159
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152111046446?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&var=451311232277&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I recently bought this 9 cell, it's built well, still have to test how long it holds a charge though.

And yes they are indeed hot-swappable which is incredibly nice. Just remember to have it plugged in when you take the battery out!

>>59964201
>bigger palmrest
yeah that actually makes a lot of sense

>>59964162
it's the palmrest, see>>59964201

>>59964295
Updating in background most likely

>>59963631
If you don't mind it depreciated $300 in 6 months

>>59964162
W520 might have different keyboard

>>59963170
>can't look at benchmarks
I play league on highest 1080p 30fps on my T430
Same cannot be said on the T420

My job has a bunch of older thinkpads that they are willing to toss due to a lack of need for them (T400s, X61s, etc)

Are they worth using at all?

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Is there a way to link thinkpad screens like you can with two monitors? Since they're totally seperate machines I wasn't sure if it was possible

>>59964810
Im doing the research, but it's quite confusing, even more because depends on the CPU. I do expect some of you guys here to game once in a while on yours t430/t420, and it doesnt hurt to ask.

Would you mind telling me the exact specs of the t430 you have?

>>59965020
There is a Windows and Mac program that links them thru wifi

>>59964984
Yeah, basic browsing machines
Dandy with an SSD. I recommend the T400 for comfy

Im really torn between the t420 and t430.

Budget is quite low, and i do want a notebook to handle at least 2 years without many problems, while also handling my work/gaming/browsing.

Thing is, t430 costs 1/3+ the price of the t420, and i don't know if it's really worth.

This isn't going to be some collector notebook to me, it's actually going to be my main platform for some time, so i really want to know if droping that money on the t430 would be really worth it, or it's just a marginal increase.

Also, besides battery, is there anything else to look out after buying one of them?

>>59965284
Screen. The 1600*900 is worth getting if it's available
Otherwise, the T430 is a noticeable improvement in hardware and battery life

The only discerning factor is the chiclet keyboard

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>>59954906
you have one of those twizer? carefully pick on one plastic tab and pull it