/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>>59966286
First for THICC W series

Friendly reminder the chiclet keyboard is better despite the layout.

>>59966532
>the chiclet keyboard is better
sure if you never used the old one

>>59966645
>sure if you never used the old one
literally not true. enjoy your flex.

You guys know the two screens you tend to see on listings? The Windows one that shows he hardware performance score, and the BIOS one? I am so upset they don't display the screen resolution. I can't seriously consider anything without that info, and anyone with it probably overprices their shit. Fucking reeeeeeee...

So my t410 overheats and I want an upgrade/replacement with a nice trackpoint

Was thinking a refurbished 8670 elitebook, anything similar thats not outrageously priced?

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>>59966406
>thicc
Birches don't know bout my 3 inches

/g/uise I want to ascend /g/ with a thinkpad (with an old i5 or something) but I am a europoor (50-70 buckaroos). Can you help me find a good deal ?

>>59967124
Have you considered opening it up and replacing the thermal paste on the CPU?

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Is HP anti-semetic?
Should I buy an elitebook now?

>>59967124
It's probably not over heating.
The X201 and T410 run hot because the 1st gen i5 was a pile of shit.
Just repaste and clean it out, you'll be fine.

>>59967338
>The X201 and T410 run hot because the 1st gen i5 was a pile of shit.
false.
the HP 8440p runs cool as fuck with a 1st gen i5.
all 12" and 14" thinkpad heatsinks are meme-tier.

>>59967378
Post temps then

>>59967378
3rd gen i5 master race.

>>59966286
Where would I get a (cheap) 1440p display for my carbon? They won't repair it for free and charge like 400€ just for removing 8 screws, I can do that myself.

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Found a x230 with problems when turning on and off to function correctly. Someone know if it's a common problem?

so is the t420 the best option for under 200 euros or are there better alternatives at that price?

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>>59968236
>x230

>>59968460

Enjoy your chink battery housefire.

>>59968460
What is the network card problem and yellow text about the bios referring to?

>>59968504

Who even replaces network cards in any laptop?

>>59968460
keep posting that stolen pic you retard

is it possible to replace a broken hinge on a t420s?

>>59968514
thinkpad owners

>>59968478
>proof: my ass.

>>59968655
cry more bitch nigga

>>59968514
Maybe you want one that supports 802.11ac, or maybe you want one that works without firmware blobs.

>>59968514
>you dont need that
nice MacBook argument you got there.

i really want a thinkpad for wordpress, autocad, and to edit 4k videos.

>autocad
day job

>4k videos
hobby

any suggestions?

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I recently picked up a used T420 and have been really enjoying it. Of course, it doesn't come with USB 3 so I also picked up an expresscard USB 3 from Startech: https://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/USB-3.0/Cards/1-Port-Flush-Mount-ExpressCard-SuperSpeed-USB-3-Card-Adapter~ECUSB3S11

The adapter works great in Win7 but seems to be inconsistent with my various USB 3 drives on Linux, despite the website claiming it is compatible. I've had some difficulty tracking down much information for drivers for this device or anyone talking about configuring it for Linux.

Any ideas or resources?

>>59966286
What are underhanded ways of getting think pads without spending USD? No theif.

I desperately need a laptop for small web server

>>59969337
nice Strawman argument you got there.

>>59969439
Tell me how to get thinkpad without spending usd

Are chink usb 3.0 expresscards good? Can't afford the brand ones

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>t430
>battery started reporting 0% charge while being charged
>can use it fine while plugged in, when i unplug it it lasts for like 10 minutes and then dies

RIP in peaces

time for a new battery i guess

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>>59969109
Why crying? you're the one who can't create a good answer

>>59966682
>>59966645
They both have their advantages and disadvantages. Personally I find that a lot of the older style keyboards suffer from mushy key actuation. It isn't even model specific, just depends on the supplier for that particular batch. The keyboard on my W520 is amazing but the one on my brother's T420 is sort of underwhelming and imprecise in comparison. And they are supposed to be the same fucking part. The new chiclets are more uniform it seems. Personally, I like both the T560 I have at work and the W520 I've got at home. The T560 is a little annoying because Lenovo simplified the keyboard a little too much (the whole function row is messed), but for 97% of the time it is just as good. And this is coming from someone who turned his nose up at the T430 when it came out.

>>59969699
I used to have one in my T61. I was pretty disappointed with it, the card would get stupid hot and then sometimes stop working, which caused problems when I was trying to copy shit to a USB 3.0 drive.

>>59969854
>you're the one who can't create a good answer
answer to what? are you high?

>>59969412
>Linux
you should solve this problem asap

>>59969699
I have one(I got generic one from aliexpress, 54mm one) and it works OK. It often gets really hot and speeds aren't as fast as legit/native usb3.0, but still faster than usb2.0.

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pass the cooler brah

How to remove computrace?

>>59969768
Unfortunate since apparently your battery still has 82% capacity. Mine is fucked at 56% because I was an idiot

I have an old latitude e6400.
The mouse moves alone at times and the battery is dead.
Should i fix it or should i buy a t420?
I want to spend 200euro or less

>>59971451
get a W520

LP140WD2(TL)(G1) replacement panel for my t420 review:

got a used "grade b" panel off ebay for $35, which seems like the only way to get a legit-by-model-# panel, instead of a """compatible""" who-knows-what from china. one tiny scratch that i can't see when the panel is on unless theres a solid color underneath and i try really hard to find it. probably going to put worse scratches on myself in my day to day

-hell of a lot brighter and better color. at least as good as my cheap lg ips monitor
-viewing angles are *acceptable* vs stock (piss awful). pretty good horizontal, pretty good tilted back until about 120° then starts getting wonky, not great tilted forward
-glossy coating isn't too reflective. bright lights will show up, but its not a fucking mirror like some ive seen

i'd say worth $35. don't pay much more than that to improve your t420 display unless it's straight up going full retard soldering in a board for a 1080p ips. even then, please reflect a little on how much time/$$$ is being put into a $150ish 5 y/o laptop

Is it worth asking a seller if the charger in the photos is part of the listing if it's a good deal either way?

It doesn't mention the charger, but if I ask and they confirm, I'd be out of a good deal if someone buys it before I do.

close to getting the t420 - theres one selling here for £130 -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004WNAYS4
it says res is 1600x900. Can I dual screen to a 2560x1600 monitor, or what is the highest res? I'm a complete noob at this.

>>59967314
Looks more like a gun than a swastika.

>>59971132
>Mine is fucked at 56% because I was an idiot
In what way? I'm getting a 430 and don't want to fuck it up immediately.

>>59969768
Have fun being cucked by an oem battery

>>59972156
?
Try to use words instead of memes.

>>59972214
You're gonna need to buy an expensive battery

How much work is it to switch out the 430 keyboard with a 420 keyboard?

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Does the bigger heatsink for CPU with GPU stillt fit on a motherboad without a CPU? Could it increase cooling performance if you replaced your CPU cooler with a CPU/GPU cooler?

Thinkpad T530 in my case

Obligatory /tpg/ pic always related

>>59972534
No and No

>>59971132
>>59971858
Also want an answer. I've burned myself with tech before and always have an open ear to insight.

>>59968460
>implying the x230 would catch on fire when it has
>>cooler, faster processor
>>real, OEM batteries

>>59972464
More than it's worth to be honest. It's subjective, but the T430 keyboards are still one of the best you can find on a laptop to date. The dedicated media keys are a plus too. I dont think a BIOS flash and the minor I/O handicaps are worth the switch when the T430 keyboard is good enough. But if you really need the T420 keyboard, I'd advise you to do a bit of research before the BIOS flash.

>>59972871
I don't. I was just curious.
Thanks.

>>59971641
I just got the same display off Amazon for about $50 for my T430. The glossy display looks much better than the matte cheap-shit panel that Lenovo provided. Honestly, I advise anyone who has a T420-T430 to make the upgrade if they cant handle the piss-poor viewing angles and shit color contrast from the default panels. Just dont expect IPS level colors, viewing angles and brightness, it's still a TN panel.

>>59972534
This really depends on the specific cooler models and how much you're willing to mod it
I was able to add the R52 cooler with the bigger fan and gpu heat pipes on my T42 after a few hours with a dremel tool, files and a drill.
I've also done a similar thing involving some alienware heatsink I found on eBay for 5$ and modified that to fit on a T410

>>59971742
A brand new original charger is 20-30 dollars. Usually what you see is what you get, unless the seller is just using the same photos for every listing, or something he lifted from elsewhere.

HP 2570p with i7-3720qm CPU, 16GB RAM, WiFi ac + wwan + 2,5" 256GB SSD + 2,5 2TB HDD
OR
ThinkPad x230 with i7-3520m CPU, 16GB RAM, WiFi + wwan + 2,5" 256GB SSD and IPS screen

which one? Is 2570p screen absolutely dogshit-tier disgusting, or is it actually usable?

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Okay so I just took a RAM stick from my X220 and put it in my W520. My W520 is working fine, it shows that it now has 12GB RAM instead of 8 so no issues there, but should i expect any later issues? not to mention the RAM from my x220 is of a different brand than my W520

>>59973864
Your RAM will be bottlenecked to the speed of the slowest stick, but that should be it.

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>>59968460

>>59971784
pls help

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Got a second T430 and I think this is the greatest fucking deal I've found so far.

$100 shipped with power adapter and dead battery. No HDD or caddy. 8GB RAM, i5.

Spent $55 on a new OEM battery, $45 on a 120GB SSD and caddy.

Total $200 for a fucking sparkling refurbed T430 with 8GB RAM and new battery/SSD. Does a better deal exist?

>>59975162
I'd like to find one like that too.

>>59975162
What's the built in drive?
Sounds like an awesome deal. Mine is at around 300$ with 8gb ram and the 300hdd switched with a 128ssd.
I don't really know the state of it yet but I am assuming it will be factory quality.
Might get a caddy and an additional ssd down the line.

Is the T450s the best 'new' Thinkpad?

>>59972817
>cooler, faster processor
>every temp posted by anons and official benchmarks shows it's a housefire compared to X220
lmao

anyone think it is worth reinstalling windows to uses UEFI on my t420
and before
>windows
i use windows only programs for work and uni

>>59966286
I know the r series is apparently shit but I acquired and r500 and r61, is either one better than the other performance wise? I know the r500 has a touch pad but I won't use it.

>>59975276
What do you mean built in drive? It had none unless you mean the CD drive, in which case I don't know I didn't bother to check / don't care. I'm gonna get a second caddy and pop another drive in there.

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>>59975701

>buy a used t420 off ebay
>a strong smell of piss with every opening/closing of the lid
>keys smell like piss
>keys even taste like piss

i seriously think there's piss on this thing

>>59976128
>tasting keys

>>59975387
>Not being able to play 1080p 10-bit anime
>Why even live

>>59971858
>>59972662
I'm not entirely sure but I remember I was getting ~4 hours with 20% wear on the battery, then I discovered /ptg/ so I left my laptop on during days for weeks to seed, always removed battery at 100% and just left there and I'm not sure if it was because of sun hitting directly or something but I noticed an abrupt change in battery life and what do you know it's 40% wear instead of 20%
It went from like ~50Wh to 35Wh.

Posting from my new x230. Really liking it. Grabbed it after my MacBook Pro crapped out early.

Opted for the 9 cell battery and a Samsung SSD and it's running well so far. Might upgrade RAM in the near future.

>>59976860
post pics faggot

any advice on getting the integrated wifi to work on macOS Sierra?
T420

>>59969465
ezpz, buy in another currency.
i spend 0 USD on my thinkpad.

>>59976928
Didn't you read the guides? Stock cards do not work, you need to flash a custom BIOS and put a compatible wifi card

Is there any benefit to using an eGPU with the internal interfaces (mPCIe I think) instead of expresscard? Also, x230 or t430?

>>59977167
no and in some cases it's more of a hassle w/r/t hotplugging and whitelists

Any thinkpads with decent keyboards under $100?

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>>59966286
So through a friend of a friend of mine, I'm gonna get my hands on a free l420. Screen aside, how would they compare with a t420?

>>59966286
Holy fuck /g/ just snagaroo'd a fully spec'd Thinkpad T440s from work for like a hundred bucks.
Just replaced the keyboard with a liteOn one, which is much better and less glossy. Now all that's left is to get a T450 series touchpad/trackpoint buttons.
What a fucking steal, 256 gb ssd, 16 gb of ram, and an i7.

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>>59976892

How much of a pain in this ass is it to put coreboot in the x200?

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>tfw your Thinkpad™ T420® plays that game everyone at work won't shut up about

>>59978095
wondering the same about t400
in the docs it shows some alligator clip looking thing hooked to the bios chip but doesnt say what it is. anyone with experience with advice will receive an eblowjob

>>59975763
They're not gonna sell a computer with no harddrive. So there's one built into the laptop when you get it regardless of the caddy.

>>59968236
Reinstall OS, if that doesn't work then open it up to see if anything is visibly corroded.

>>59978355
Nice touch with the bandaid.

>>59971451
Part it out on ebay and put the money towards a decent thinkpad.

>>59968430
Depends on what's important to you.
t420 is nice, but if you want portability or similar would go the x220. If you want a nice screen that's something totally different. 1366x768 isn't exactly ideal

>>59978355
>>59978469
I agree, the bandaid is cool imo. If I didn't use my webcam every once in a while, I'd do that if I had the balls.

>>59978891
>>59978469
>>59978355
Does it really stick though? It's made for short term attachment to skin.
I was thinking of using black electrical tape or an ebin haxor sticker.
>>59978891
You can btw order stickers from the EFF site that are specifically designed to be used over webcam lenses which leave no residue when you remove them.

>>59978926
>>59978891
>>59978469

It's been there for like six months, not coming off
Also it's wide enough to cover the mic holes but doesn't adversely affect functionality. Eventually I'll buy an external mic and remove the internal completely

I want to buy an SSD for my X220. 240 GBs should be enough. What brands and models do you guys recommend? I'm not looking for MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE shit, i just want something reliable and with a good price/performance ratio.

>>59978974
It will barely have any effect on the mic quality.
I'd love to remove any sort of monitoring device like that myself when I get my t430.
I never use a webcam anyway, nor do I use a mic that isn't part of a headset.

>>59979003
I just got a Samsung 250gb for ~$110. It's a good brand from what friends have told me and it comes with a 5 year warranty so I'm pretty satisfied with the purchase.

I have a t420 with Win7. Whenever I try to install Ubuntu or other Linux Distro I'm not able to go back to Win7(aka dual boot).

What am I missing to make it dual boot?

>>59979048
what model mah boy

>>59979075
850 evo

>>59979081
cool, thanks.

>>59979068
Why don't you just boot off a usb?

>>59979166
Slow. Right now I'm using VirtualBox to run Ubuntu. I've tried several times to create dual boot and I never get that initial screen at boot to choose which OS to boot. *shrug*

how is the i7 7500U better than the i7 3632QM? just $100 more, I can get the t470 from epp or I should get a modded t430 with that older processor, nvs5400m and those modded 2k panel?

what size harddrive do I need for an x220, would a 2.5 work?

x200 coreboot how hard is it?

>>59979484
2.5" has to be 7mm thin.

Anything thicker will not fit

what are the elitebook/latitude equivalents of the x220/x230

>>59979865
For Elitebooks its probably the 2530p/2540p laptops, which actually come with a DVD drive despite their size

Not sure what the Dell equivalents are in a 12" size

>>59979992
you mean 2560p (x220) and 2570p (x230), right?
And these are not equivalents. These are MUCH better, especially since you can have two 2,5" HDDs in them and actual 45W quad core CPU.
>buying lelnopevovo chinkshit
>ever

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>>59978926
Stuck black painter's tape on mine. With general glances, it's nearly invisible since it's not very shiny.

>>59980597
You realize there's a BIOS setting for this right?
Not to mention the hardware LED that can't be turned off if the camera is on

Is it just me or is there a VERY noticeable decline in build quality after *200 series?

>>59967314
>Hale hortler

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>>59966286
>click buttons next to my touchpoint on my t420 have randomly stopped working
JUST
Any ideas as to how to fix this?

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>>59976128

Hello /tpg/,

I've been thinking about getting a x230t and was wondering if any of you could shed some light on whether or not it would be worth getting?

>>59978426
lol fuck off retard

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>mfw I was just using my chinkpad on the train and some teenagers were laughing at me, and one of them started videoing me with their phone

Why is it ok for people to browse their phone on the train, but I can't use my chinkpad without being ridiculed

>>59981412
>triggered

Should I replace my Dell xps with a t420?

was thinking of getting a x240, is it a good choice? also whats the maximum i should pay for it?

>>59981427
They were laughing at your dinosaur computer.

I've got a D630, I've got one battery that wont charge, another that doesn't get recognized. Where should I buy from, or should I even bother?

>>59977902
Poked one around, doesn't seem to be much worse that t420 except the lack of the rollcage and ultrabay.

>>59978095
Easy, though I wasn't able to normally init video and it didn't start Windows.
Just install libreboot. With a microcode update windows runs fine in a VM.

>>59981427
> teenagers
here's your problem
Also what model? In my country thinkpads aren't common, and it looks professional as fuck compared to anything else, especially with US-only keyboard.
As a final solution, you could just crack their skulls with dat magnesium body.
t. uses an x200 almost everywhere

>>59977902
>how would they compare with a t420?
shit

>>59981728
No.
>>59981794
No.

>>59982004
But I kind of want to. Just for the cool factor.

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Rate me

>>59982048
There is no cool factor
It's a plastic autism box for poorfags
>>59982066
Mine was $150 without a broken lid and fucked up keyboard/trackpad.
You overpayed

>>59982071
But its what professionals use

>>59982092
*autists
Most professionals are on tablets these days, my dad (medicine) recently got his work toughbook taken away in favor of a samsung tablet with a medical chart app

>>59976737
What even is this meme? My w500 can play hi10p 1080p with gma 4500mhd and a fucking t9600

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>2017
>not having a fully spec'd out X220 and T420 running Windows embedded 8.1 industry pro customized to look like windows 7 but with better ssd support and no botnet + updates until 2023 at which one can move over to ReactOS for open sauce botnet free windows

anyways I find the fingerprint scanners on these things work a lot better with 8.1 installed in uefi mode, does anyone running windows 8/10 experience the same compared to windows 7 and linux?

>>59982165
>CURRENT DAY, CURRENT TIME
>not owing a librebooted Thinkpad

You do really enjoy the botnet, don't you?

>>59982165
Nice, you bought the worst two thinkpads
You could have been cool if you went with a T400 and X200, but you didn't.

>>59982187
This.
The two comfiest laptops ever made

>>59982187
AND I MADE THEM GREAT AGAIN!

intel 7260 ac wifi, 15 and 18 cell batteries, classic keyboard, ips display is all I want. I assembled these from new parts on aliexpress. They run cracked bioses I don't care about being a freecuck I want an os that respects my privacy and embedded 8.1 will do that.

Should I upgrade the X220 to an i7 too?

>>59982290
>new parts on aliexpress
Yes, very great...

How much of a difference does a SSD make?

>>59982429
best overall upgrade you can do aside from maybe dualcore to quadcore if your thinkpad supports it.

is CMOS battery special in X230 or anything goes?
also my right hinge is wobbling, what should i check?

>>59975363
pls respond :(

>>59980641
>trusting a non-physical switch

>>59975363
No, an HP elitebook/Zbook or an XPS 13/15 are much better modern machines. The former if you want performance and ruggedness, the latter if you want a high-end shitposting machine

>>59982785
Don't be dense, it's impossible to have the camera on without the LED lighting up as well

>>59982004
>no x240
why not? serious question. i want a small laptop with a decent xpu and xheap for my daily comute

>>59982823
Then you get an XPS 13
Lighter with better battery life
Stop being poor and buying used autism machines

>>59982785
>thinking the government or anyone else wants to watch your fat ass jack off to anime

>>59982803
Is there an Elitebook you'd recommend?

I need something that can be dropped, knocked around, etc. I travel a lot. The XPS looks brittle.

I used to have an Elitebook 2730p that was fantastic and it was quite rugged. I only stopped using it two months ago because the HDD startes failing and a new one costs as much as a used 2730p.

>>59982866
theres a difference between being poor and not wanting to waste money on something ill only ise like 1h a day tops..

spending 800e vs 300e for something that does the same..

>>59982955
Find one in a price range that fits your budget/performance needs
They're all very rugged and repairs/upgrades are much easier than thinkpads.
You can change out the HDD without even needing a screwdriver for example

Hey is there a way to install a backlit keyboard into a E570 or a L570?

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Just bought an x220, should come next week some time, I'm looking at doing the screen replacement mod, where should I look for information? I only speak english..

Any other good mods/upgrades for this machine?

is there any real difference between a t430 and t430i?

>>59982955
>Is there an Elitebook you'd recommend?
>I need something that can be dropped, knocked around, etc. I travel a lot.


8440p for sure

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>>59980304
Which processors do these HPs have that are quad-core? I'm pretty much seeing the same i5 and i7 processors that the x220s come with.

Also I don't see two Sata Hard Drive slots in here unless you replace the DVD drive. And it does not have an mSata slot, which the x220 does have. The only other tradeoff would be having the chiclet keyboard and a arguably worse trackpoint than the x220 has.

>>59982066
>AZERTY

useless piece of shit/10

>>59983594
Those elitebooks have socketted CPUs hence the possiblity of quad core options. I doubt you could find examples of that for purchase, given that the seller would be liable for losing their money if/when the motherboard gave out.

The X220/X230 also have the IPS screen going for them, which seems to put a fair few people off the smaller elitebooks. Though really all the differences are pretty small and your average person would probably be best off just getting with whichever's cheaper.

>>59983776
I guess its nice that you can add a quad-core cpu to it. Don't know if I would be willing to spend the money to upgrade a small laptop to its absolute max specs.


All I've done for my x220 so far was upgrade the ram to 8GB with some ram sticks that I had lying around and buy a $50 SSD for it.

Replaced the screen on my x240 but now the screen is fixed at full brightness. Any ideas how to fix it, I've tried uninstalling the device driver.

>Location
Germany
>Price range
up to 1250€
>Size range
~14"
>Performance requirements
16GB RAM
>Other requirements
Two video outputs for external monitors

It will be used mainly stationary at work for Android development. Currently considering a ThinkPad 13 with (i5-7500U) or a T460p (i5-6300HQ). Which one should I get or is there any other recommendation?

Should I cop these for an x220 i've got coming in the mail?
Is msata faster? Should I just go for the 1tb ssd and the 1tb msata next pay?

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>>59984911
oops

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This guy is selling laptops in bulk for $35 each, including this Thinkpad.
What model is this? It's such a blurry picture I can't tell

>>59983411
Is there one from 5 years ago?

Everyone keeps recommending 7-8yo laptops. I can afford to buy a $1500 laptop now that can last me for the next 5 years. I don't want a laptop from the last decade I need to buy a battery and SSD for.

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>tfw going to buy a T430, upgrade the CPU to a quad-core i7 (same TDP as the dual-cores), and replace the keyboard with a T420 keyboard

Am I making a mistake?

>>59966532
sure, if you prefer typing on a soggy sponge

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So my new screen came in today...

Does anyone know what is wrong and what to do?

>>59985067
T43 probably

Is there a sticker on the X220's trackpad like there is on the T420's?
I finally managed to get one for 20$ but the trackpad is really worn out.

>>59982939
>>59982813
>govt stooges
There's a reason the eff sells those stickers.

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>>59985238
yes
the TDP is the same but it will overheat like a fat american during summer

>>59985238
Only by replacing the keyboard. It literally doesn't matter.
That is unless you've tried both and prefer the older one.
If you haven't tried the old one then you are being memed.
The first part is good.

>>59985140
HP Zbook then
Unironically better than the new thinkpads

>>59986615
I don't know? Looks like it was used as a trampoline? Or is that a reflection? If so, what isn't a reflection. What exactly are you referring to. Take a better picture, grandpa.

>>59980304
>These are MUCH better, especially since you can have two 2,5" HDDs in them and actual 45W quad core CPU.
The ultimate /g/ redpill...

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>>59987175

It wasn't a reflection I'm referring to the top and bottom corner of the screen

>>59987294
That's weird. Can you push the corners up from behind the panel? Maybe wedge some cardboard or paper in there

>>59983594
all models up to 45W TDP, ie. i7-3720qm

>>59983594
msata is a meme
I'll take the cheaper price (relative to a similar condition thinkpad equivalent), easier upgradability, general better screens and most importantly elitebooks don't look like virgin machines; over memesata

>>59987567
>virgin machines
Lel. If you can't get laid because of the computer you use then you have bigger fish to fry, my man.

What do you all use to monitor battery life/which apps are using the most battery? I'm running Ubuntu 16.04.

>>59971784
yeah bumping this question again, cant find an answer

>>59987620
Go take your thinkpad to any kind of social situation
You'll look like a giant sperg
t. using x200 in lecture right now

>>59987666
t. giant sperg who thinks it's his computer's fault that girls don't talk to him

>>59987666
Why the fuck would I be bringing my laptop to a social event?
That right there might be one of the real factors to why you're not getting laid.
And no, a lecture isn't a social event.
It might also interest you to know that not everyone here is a student.

>>59987567
>general better screens
No IPS option means the screens are worse. But I agree 2560p/70p have more going for them than the x220 and x230 considering those elitebooks cost less and you get the extra drive bay, socketted CPU and screw-less access to internals.

>>59987666
>show up to party
>bring any sort of laptop
>wonder why everyone thinks he's a sperg

>"m-m-m-muh virgin machines!!!"

t. me, an intellectual

I just found Hp elitebook 2560p with 4gb ram 320gb and i5 cpu for 80$. The seller says that the battery does not work.

Should I pull the trigger?

>>59987844
It's eh, I got a 2570p with everything working for $100.

>>59987900
Okay, well the twist is that I live in Yuropoor so I thought it was a good deal (so 80$ I really meant 80€)
Anyway I'm planning to get a computer for my grandmom so she could pay her bills online. I figured that 2560p could be a good candidate due to it's rugged construct and spill proof keyboard. I do note that the screen on it might be too small for her to see, so it I'm not sure whether 15,6" would be any better (8440p for 100€) or just go with an external monitor.

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My thinkpad t420 has 4gb of ram, and I don't know that I've used all of it yet, I've had many times where I've had less than 1 gb free. A thing I notice is that my cpu tops out before the ram is completely used, should I upgrade my cpu or ram first for performance increases?

Currently I have the i5-2520m

>>59988041
Considering that you need a new motherboard since the CPU is soldered I'd try out more ram first.

>>59966286
Will 92p1163 battery fit inside of my x61s-7667?

>>59988036
Get it then. A new chink battery is all you need.
>>59987735
I was so fucking amazed by this on my dad's latitude. Fucking having to disassemble the whole machine just to repaste; what the fuck were they thinking?
>>59987793
>>59987729
>>59987706
My thinkpads regularly get made fun of by my normie friends and I imagine a less sociable person than me would sperg out.
Meanwhile my elitebook gets compliments on how good and clean it looks.

>>59988075
I can't find anything that says the t420 has a soldered cpu, where did you find that?

>>59988168
Thinkpad CPUs are soldered anon. Don't be stupid

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>>59988168
Crap. Must have misread it for a X220 because memes. I don't know about the T420 desu senpai

>>59988168
The t420 is not. Anon must have thought t420s.

Is an x41 for 35e worth it?
I don't really need much speed/ram-wise, since I plan on using it as a linux machine.

>>59987294
lmao
where did you get it?

>>59988092
>good and clean
after a while elitebooks do not look good and clean

>>59988210
laptopscreens.com

>>59987735
From what I see elitebooks are more expensive outside america so that looks like a pretty good deal. And using it as a desktop would be a nice idea for basic computing, cheaper than a NUC too.

>>59988276
meant for >>59988036

>>59988092
>giving a shit about what people think of the APPEARANCE of your hardware
If you fall for this meme you deserve to be ridiculed.
Might as well join the apple herd at that point and be an eternal wage slave.

>>59988226
>after a while elitebooks do not look good and clean
It's MUCH easier to wipe down the metal surface and get them looking good again.
If the keyboard is worn you can just pop a new one on.
Meanwhile all the contact surfaces on a thinkpad are plastic and they get shiny VERY quickly, which just looks like your keyboard is a greasy mess, even if it's clean.
The rubber is pretty easy to scratch as well, and you'd be hard pressed to find a thinkpad on ebay without worn corners on the lid.

This is without mentioning some inherent problems on the X series past the x201, the outer lip will eventually break off because of how poorly designed it is.

Look, I love my thinkpads, but stop putting them on a fucking pedestal. They excel in some areas but are bad in others, like anything else in life.

>>59988295
I wonder If you should look for a desktop instead, but then again, how I'm supposed to find space for that versus a laptop. Now the next problem would be a monitor,possibly external keyboard and mouse.
Monitor would cost about 120€ or so and I already have a few keyboard to spare and a mouse (needs proper cleaning).

Or I just try to crack my T30 bios password so I could get a spare laptop. Bought this rabbithole for 10€

>>59988402
>I wonder if you should look
Obviously meant
>I wonder if I should look
Fuck can't engrish, very stressed out.

T430 vs X230?

X230 seems a tad bit pricier (non tablet version).

Does anyone have experience with the X230t? Is it much worse than the X230, just to get the tablet functionality?

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>>59988387
Yeah, because as we all know there's no way to replace parts on a thinkpad.

>>59988550
Plastic wears MUCH faster than metal
Are you actually this retarded?

Just installed a 250gb SSD on my x220, this shit is FLYING.

with 8GB of ram I could probably use this as my main computer if I wanted to.

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>>59988597
Yeah, because as we all know there's no way to protect against wear.

>>59966286
Where can i buy windows 7 pro 4 bit?

>>59988516
I'm using one. x230t has guaranteed IPS screen. Pen and touch input is nice to have. Tablet mode is bulky but you can still make it comfy in certain situations (like laying it against your legs on the sofa). Besides the tablet features it's pretty much identical to the regular x230; nearly the same body. The two hinges of the x230 probably make it sturdier.

Main things T430 has over the x230 is socketted CPU, secondary drive bay, and 900p option (factory).

>>59988624
Your #blacklivesmatter might protect your plamrest, but your keyboard still looks like shit

>>59988724
pls help i just bought a thinpad and a ssd tp put in it but i don't know what to do
i'm not sure if i even put the ssd in right

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>>59988750
Yeah, I think you've already established that everyone knows thinkpads can't be physically altered in any way aside from being gradually worn down over time.
I don't know why they didn't think of that before putting them into production.
Seems like a serious oversight on the designer's part.

>>59988800
>i'm not sure if i even put the ssd in right
Google the manual for it
Might not need to buy Win7 either if the product key is under the battery

>>59988941
okay there's a key i think it's 25 digits what do i need besides the key?

>>59989025
Just search around for an ISO and then enter your product key when it asks for it.

>>59989025
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7

>>59989053
>>59989060
it just gave me error The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer for software recovery options.

>>59989169
Install Linux/GNU? It's free.

>>59989240
I want windows though do you know where i can download it?

>>59988387
>Meanwhile all the contact surfaces on a thinkpad are plastic and they get shiny VERY quickly
poor quality bait

>>59980788
search the web and see if it has happened to anyone else with the same distro, there might be an easy software fix
if not check settings to see if they were turned off somehow
if not turn it off and on again
if that doesnt work then open it up
see if cable is connected
if not plug it in
if it is plugged in unplug it and replug it in, might work but prob not
worst case scenerio you buy some replacements and plug em in
if that doesnt work then i dont know what to tell you

is there any reason to use windows 7 32 bit over 64?

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>>59988387
>and you'd be hard pressed to find a thinkpad on ebay without worn corners on the lid.

jej.

pic related is every used elitebook ever. also their serviceability is fucking shit, there's a reason they cost $100 less than a thinkpad. nobody's putting thinkpads on a pedestal but you're in /tpg/ and you clearly have an unhealthy obsession with $89 macbook clones.

>>59984695
Guys plz help

>>59988387

The CFRP lids on some ThinkPads are literally impossible to clean, with anything. The rubberized magnesium is much easier to clean.

Ive got an X131e with i3-3227u, 8GB ram, 300gb HDD with Win 10. I've also got a Vizio CT14 ultrabook running Lubuntu with an i3-3127u, 4GB ram, and 128GB SSD. I'm wanting to sell both and buy an X220 and dual boot on it with a 128GB SSD and use it as a backup station/lan station on the dock for friends when I'm using my PC. Worth it?

>>59985238
dont fall for the old keyboard. ive made that mistake too getting an x220

Just won an auction for a x220 i7, at about the max I was willing to spend unfortunately. Fucking $250.

Was it too much?

>>59989316
thepiratebay org

I'm moving to Hong Kong and need something more portable than my Fujitsu brick. Requirements:
>plays nice with Linux so I can dualboot
>light and easily stored
>doesn't need to be a beast but not a chromebook either
>cheap, don't have a lot of cash to drop
>good trackpad

What series do I go for? X?

>>59990301
yes
fortunately the housefire insurance should cover it.

>>59990333
is this one legit?
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6464393/W

>>59979068
Try putting an admin password on the bios screen

Had that problem for like a year and that fixed it

>>59986702
I've heard that the temps are higher but still manageable.

>>59986706
>>59990199
I'm already used to the old keyboard (I have an X200 and X220).

>>59976737
>not a well-encoded 1080p 8-bit anime

>>59982429
>>59982476
I would say it makes more of a difference than the processor. Before I got an SSD for my W520, I had a small shitty 64 gig one in my T400 and the older computer was faster with literally everything.

>>59989628
What the fuck do you mean, you can dissasemble an elitebook way quicker than you can a T/X230. Not to mention repasting and upgrades can be done simply through the back lid.
You have to pull off the entire screen just to get to the heatsink on the X220, nigga fuck off with this meme shit.

Post *200 thinkpads are really not as good as you faggots claim they are, and have an X201, X220 and T420.

>>59987567
>>59987620
>>59987666
>Had a Macbook in university
>Didn't get laid, didn't hold hands, didn't even kiss
>Graduate, discover the beauty of used Thinkpads, pick up a T410 and sell my Macbook
>Met my current girlfriend and lost my virginity six months after

Clitmouse magic

Has anyone on /tpg/ with an X230 gotten around the code 12 w/ eGPU and 16gb ram issue? I can get around the code 12 issue by unpluging the monitor before boot and plugging it back in afterwards to circumvent the windows bootloader getting stuck, but if I go from 8gb to 12gb ram with the eGPU plugged in it won't go past the bios.

>>59989628
Oh and I can cherrypick a garbage looking T420 off ebay as well.

>>59990708
Care to explain why you're trying to play games on a poorly ventilated 12in laptop?

Are cheap thinkpad chargers (x220) any good or should i buy an original lenovo one?

>>59990692
Congratulations, you're a beta.

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>>59990708
Machine in question

>>59990685
>woships Elitememes
>nigga fuck off with this meme shit.
k

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>>59990753
I have the majority of the performance I got out of my i7-6700 desktop, but I just have to unplug an expresscard cable, press a button and pick up the laptop to take it to lectures.

Why wouldn't I game on a such a laptop? It does everything except house more than 8gb ram and an eGPU at the same time. Only thing I'm unsatisfied with is a little bit of CPU bottlenecking of photogrammetric processing, but as far as I can see getting a T430 and moving up to a QM wouldn't change that to any extent that makes it worth it.

>>59990685
>edgy contrarian faggot #98374623746 having an anti-thinkpad mental breakdown in a /tpg/ thread

>>59990426
No don't use that it looks shitty.
I used this one for my virtual machine, it's good:
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/9175198/Windows_7_SP1_Ultimate_%2864_Bit%29\

When it asks for the product key use:
6K2KY-BFH24-PJW6W-9GK29-TMPWP

>>59990917
you can use 16GB of ram, friendo

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I've got a 2560p.
120gb SSD + 320GB SSD in this badboi. It's my first laptop and I've had a pleasant experience with it considering I paid £130. The screen is certified dogshit though.
>>59989628
Mine doesn't look like that, though there is a few scratches near the hinge.

>>59991006
you retards have stickers on their laptops
i left my ex because she wanted stickers for her laptop

that was the last fucking straw

>>59991006
Fuck, 320gb HDD.

>>59991036
>you retards have stickers on their laptops
I think you've just proved that you're retarded. I'm assuming that you're not a native English speaker, hows life in pooland, Pajeet?

>>59990991
With an eGPU, anything bigger than 8gb will not get past bios without some kind of fix.

>>59990801
>triggered McSheep detected

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>>59991036
>tfw this makes me want to cover my entire thinkpad in stickers

>>59989316
microsofts website
don't torrent windows when you get get it straight from MS
there's ways to get past the product key thing (or just use a non oem key)
>>59989595
less ram consumption (like 400-600MB idle vs 700-1GB)

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Someone could tell me the average temp for the T460p in normal and heavy use, like CAD or photoshop and the battery duration on the same conditions?

>>59991304
t460p isn't that great with heat

>>59991403
no thinkpads are

>>59990910
Pre *20 thinkpads>everything else
Elitebooks > post *20, ESPECIALLY *40.

Also Zbooks are better than the newest thinkpads in pretty much every way.

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>>59991412
t. manlet

>>59991412
Actually, is there a reason why the heating solution in thinkpads sucks so much?
There's no real heatsink to speak of, it's just pipes leading to a tiny fan

>>59976128
kekd har
>keys even taste like piss
banging my head on the desk
thanks for the laugh you pish loving bastard

>>59981427
you need more l33t stickers

>>59991592
I'm unironically going to slather it in 1337 hxxorz, dank memes and ebin reference stickers.

>>59991538
now start a gpu stress test too
my w520 throttles badly on the gpu, and the cpu runs at like 95+c under cpu and gpu load (not even full load, just any load)
>>59991542
Pretty much all laptops have terrible cooling.
Only the gaming laptops that are fuck hueg with dual fans run nice and cool under load.
Plus it's pretty sad that my 2012 15" macbook pro runs cooler and doesn't throttle like my t430 does (and my t430 throttles badly)

>>59990801
I was, until I ditched the Mac and got a laptop for men.

>>59991770
And also a thinkpad.

>>59986615
looks fucked up anon. Someone fucked up the corners, they are busted. Return it.
>>59991639
never understimate the amount of feces most normies need to be fed.

just installed 10 LTSB on my T420, when I was loading it up with 7zip the fan wasn't running
I've got all the drivers I can find installed, not sure if I'm missing something

>>59991645
>non eGPUs on a laptop
>>>/v/

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>>59992092
>not sure if I'm missing something

>>59992244
>linux
I have a seperate drive for that, need windows for sk00l

I just got a 45N2141 keyboard for my x220. I noticed it has a cat's tongue style trackpoint.

Is this OEM?

how do i get all these stickers off

>>59992431
The ones to the left of the trackpad? I took my Windows one off pretty easily and used a Clorox disinfectant wipe to remove the residue.

>>59992431
You have to gently stimulate them.

>>59992431
>be me
>using t430
>heat causes windows/intel stickers to melt off
easy peasy senpai

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>>59966286
ThinkPad master race. Hopefully about to win two of these babies.

(But if one of y'all wanna pay $92 for it, be my guest, these are spares for me.)

I have a t470 coming in the mail in the next few days. How do I upgrade from a HDD to an SSD. Do I need to buy an adapter for the slot? I have an extra samsung sitting around from my old laptop I would like to put into it.

>>59992558
no, just take the hdd off and put the sdd.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

bought a cheap x230 a week ago, came with TN screen so I had to order an IPS screen for $70

and today a fuking t430 goes on sale $60 cheaper than the x230

FUCK MY LIFE

>>59992492
It's okay to limit yourself to 4 tabs of tranny porn at any given time, my man.

>>59992649
You're sperging out over 60$?

>>59991147
>still can't gasp why is a beta
Enjoy the divorce rape

>>59992630
Was looking at the NVMe drives. Turns out after a lot of digging you need 00UR496 and 01AX994 which cost about $60 together and wont be in stock for ages. Regular SSD wins.

m wondering if it is possible to install a solid state drive on my X230 in addition to hdd? i know its doable on T series, but it remains unclear to me whether its same for X series?

>>59992649
>no easy IPS upgrade for t430

>>59992673
i'm a different guy, hombre.

>>59992662

People who buy ThinkPads are mostly poor as fuck, didn't you know that?

>>59992702
yes, msata, limited to sata 2 speeds

I've got a Thinkpad T530 with no screen, no OS.
I've got a Mini DisplayPort to DVI-D cable, a VGA cable, an RJ45 cable, power adapter for the T530, and a non-EFI PXE server setup.
There is a password set for the BIOS, and I know the password.

I can't traverse bootup blind to get it to network boot. pls, anyone w/ a Thinkpad T530 willing to guide this blind anon?

>>59992782
That's not true though. They're mostly massive corporations.

>>59992782
most formula 1 teams use them

>>59992680
yeap, I also think nvme run hotter.

>>59991506
No one uses XX40 thinkpads, get with it you fucking goon. There's a reason that shit lasted a single gen.

>>59992838
only when you're doing a stupidly intensive benchmark

>>59992897
>do trackpad swap
>it's now a xx50

New thread:
>>59966286

is the expresscard on the W520 1.0 or 2.0? Also, has anyone tested an eGPU on a W520?

NEW THREAD

>>59992914

>>59992914

>>59992914

>>59992662
i make 80 grand a year

spending more than $100 makes me suicidal

>>59992702
I bought a cheap Liteon msata that works great. Don't feel the need to spend top dollar because it's limited to sata ii.

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>>59975363
I'd say so

In my personal experience (I had a x220 before)

Same stuff
>Ruggedness
>Size
>Screen
>Touchpad and trackpoint (slightly different design on the touchpad, but essentially the same)
>Hinges - again, different design but essentially the same
>ports (minus the CD - Rom plus the miniDisplay)
>still waterproof
>fingerprint reader

Better stuff
>Battery life - the regular model goes >10h and the 6cell goes >17hours
> reserve integrated 3cell battery
> keyboard more tactile and feels stronger
>backlit keyboard

Worse stuff
>keyboard button arrangement - they removed a lot of important buttons
> no dedicated GPU
>no CD rom thus no space for more SSD

Debatable stuff
>keyboard design - the new is island design the old was classical, but essentially it comes to the user, I prefer the island type
>NOTE: The keystrokes have the same depth and the island type isn't your average keyboard shit it feels more tactile than the classical one
>Overall design - some folks like the "late 90s look" some like the "modern but tryin to look old look"


That was my experience with the new T450s, honestly it feels just the same as the rest of thinkpads but they tried to make it "cooler" with the design. Don't fall for the "not a thinkpad" meme, it's missing some features but overall it's the same shit they come up with every year

Picture : Me standing on my laptop to prove the ruggedness

>>59966286
Okay guys i just got a thinkpad and i put a ssd in it and tried to install windows it booted up to the home screen but it won't let me connect to the internet nothing even shows up to connect to
help please

>>59993030
install drivers mate. What model is it? What Windows did you install? Go to the website get all the drivers on a usb drive and just plug it in your machine and install them.

>>59993109
w520 windows 7 pro
i have the
i7
quardo 2000m

>>59992820
>>59992832

You both knew what I fucking meant. We know these are all $1,000+ machines at new and around a fifth of that when liquidation time comes.

>>59993125
check https://support.lenovo.com/ and use the model (w520) or the serial if the machine still has it and it will point you out to the drivers you need. Don't forget to check on the right Windows version.

>>59993030
Install drivers faggot

It has nothing to do with the thinkpad or the SSD

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+install+drivers+on+windows

>>59992982

I can tell from this image alone that you have autism.

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>>59993205

>>59987567
>>59987666
>>59988092

>women won't have sex with me because of the laptop I own

Holy fucking shit, are all Americans this intolerably autistic? Who the fuck makes fun of laptops? Who even CARES? I don't even know what 90% of my friends in regards to computers. Is life in America really like one of those shitty retarded high school movies?

>>59993190
okay it has like a hundred things to check and download should i do all of them?
http://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-w-series-laptops/thinkpad-w520/4284/downloads

>>59993454
somebody fucking kill me i'v been trying to get this computer working for over 6 hours now

>>59993605
Drop me your deets then, breh, and I'll be right over to bash your dome in with a pipe wrench.

>>59993755
kill yourself you useless faggot

>>59993605
download wifi drivers if that's what the issue is?? not sure what the issue is here

>>59993764
>he said, remaining eternally oblivious to the irony of his very existence
'Ditto'

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>tfw you install Flash Memory on your portable laptop

>>59993817
>portable laptop
Redundant.

>>59993825
>18" gaming laptops are portable

>>59993843
How else would you connect to the internet.

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>>59993874
Bring the internet to the laptop

>>59994312
How to connect without ports?