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IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.net

Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

New to /tpg/ or looking for purchasing advice? (hint: use the advice request template, it makes life easier)
http://pastebin.com/JiXZ2f0t

If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™

Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", ultraportable
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.

Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg

xsauc buyers guide:
http://www.dankpads.com

EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/JVwVGVTW

Helpful links and resources (Wiki, lookup tools and wallpapers):
http://pastebin.com/DYjEnVq1
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is the screen on a T520 going to satisfy my older mother? she just does basic internet browsing, emails, and office work on it.

>pic related, my mom
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Post battery stats

>640 cycles
>Design capacity 62.16Wh
>Full capacity 35.40Wh
>Wear level: 44%
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I've heard about thinkpads having whitelisted hardware, and was thinking of installing my own screen, SSD, and ram in a T470 to avoid paying out the ass for a decent laptop (My First Thinkpad), will I have any issues?
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>>59727616
Also, I was thinking about getting an X270 instead, since I already have a beefy desktop and wouldn't be using my laptop all day long, the X270 has better battery life, but I can't find any replacement screens for it, would any anon care to give their opinion on which would be better for mobile spreadsheet business and point me to a FHD X270 screen?
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>>59727525
ah fuck how did you get that?
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>>59727690
The x270 should already have a fhd ips display
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>>59727756
It has an option for it but they charge you $200 dollars for a screen that costs $60 max
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>>59727525
Your mom definitely can handle a big black one.
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>>59727690
>X270
>skim through german review
>hot as fuck in full load, literal space heater
>5h24min wifi browsing battery life

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP PHAM
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any busines laptop with the following:
>ips display or be able to mod one
>quadcore core or be able to mod one
>ivy bridge or haswell preferred.
>usb 3.0 or be able to mod it.
>14 inches.
I was debating between the t430 but after some reading idk.

I found the t430 can use a quadcore i7 but no possibility of ips mod.

And the t430s can be modded to use a full hd ips display but the battery is worse even with the ultrabay battery and the cpu is soldered.

pls help, thinkpad, elitebook or latitude, doesn't matter.
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>>59728385
T460p
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fell for the thinkpad meme.

$150, and it's the nicest laptop I've ever owned. Thanks guys
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>>59727600
anyone have experience with slice batteries and do you like them?
looking into one for x220t
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>>59728463
Post some pics nigga
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>be the ripe wee age of 17
>turning 18 right towards graduation if HS, still don't have a laptop for college
>standard poor HS student have about $180 knocking around that I can stand to spend (rest of savings were for college books)
>manage to get myself a ThinkPad T61, C2D T7500, 2GB ddr2-667mhz
>get an OEM 9 cell battery
>get another 2GB ddr2
>get an ultra adapter for 2nd HDD
>Get a Kingston 64GB SSD for boot
>Manage to come in just under budget
>so proud of myself (baby's first refurbished)
>stolen by inner city youths day 3 of college

All because my car was the type with windows that didn't roll up into the door frame. So the robbers were able to pull the window away from the car, snag the lock and open my door. Lost my Thinkpad, 4 freshly purchased college books, a brand new Jansport, my micro USB cigarette socket charger, and my Garmin GPS unit out of the glove box. Motherfuckers even took my mints out of my center console.
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>>59728776
>stolen by inner city youths
niggers
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>>59728443
forgot to mention I prefer ivy bridge or haswell due because budget.
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a+ T430 - $140
3320m
5400m
8gb
180gb ssd
1600x900
bluetooth
ultimate 6300
extended battery
backlit keyboard

upgrades so far
3630qm - $100
16gb ram - $50
1tb sshd - $65
second hdd caddy - $10
125w ac adapter - $25

over the course of four months. couldnt have done better
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>>59728776
>leaving your laptop in your car
Not saying you were asking for it, but come on man

>>59728824
this
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>>59728824
>>59728776
just call them niggers
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I need a thinkpad for under $250 ideally 15.6 inch screen. using it for web browsing and some basic script compiling. Can I have some comparisons of T510 vs T520?

I'd also like to be able to stick it on a dock and also put in an SSD
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>>59729294
>shitpad meets mackepleb
epik!
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>>59729347
get a W520
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>>59729347
>script compiling
?
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does the thinkpad t430 come with swappable bays like the old thinkpads did? im thinking of buying

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T430-i5-3320M-2-6GHz-8GB-180SSD-WIFI-N-SD-WCAM-DVDRW-WIN7-PRO64-/371905541071?hash=item56974c33cf:g:wSwAAOSwux5YM5fV

but wondering if i'd be able to swap out the dvd drive with something useful
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what's the poing of a dock when you have all the ports you need on the machine anyway?
if you need more usb ports, just get a dongle
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>>59729294
>extra virgin
>thinkpad

checks out
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>>59729477
You can leave everything plugged in and then just drop your laptop on when you get home and everything works

like external displays n shit
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>>59729452
it wasn't even worth mentioning since a basic calculator has enough power to compile anything I'm working on. I meant it as more of a comfortable keyboard and screen for long viewing sessions.
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You are now aware of the visible screws under the x230/t430 keyboard.
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>>59728776

Man you are fucking stupid, college wont help you. Never leave anything in your car that isnt actually permanently attached to it.
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>>59729560
Get a W520
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>>59729560
you don't compile scripts you baka
you interpret them
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>>59729465
>1366x768
i would advice against
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>>59729616
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>>59729042
>>59729607
>Leaving shit in my car
Yea I know I know. I've since learned that. I grew up in a decent neighborhood and theft was something entirely foreign to me at the time. And it wasn't left in there like overnight. It was only left in there after classes ended for the day while me and friends went and got dinner. We were less than a block away eating.

It getting stolen is what got me into security though. Both physical and digital. Alarms, locks. And later on, encryption. That laptop didn't even have a password on it. The thought of what could have happened had the device had banking info etc on it gave me nervous sweats.
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>>59729616
What about C scripts?
checkmate nigger
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>>59730201
not technically scripts
a script by definition is interpreted
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>>59729023
why did you get a 125watt adapter? 90 would suffice
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>>59727468
Does anyone know what is better for productivity and what looks better, the FHD 1080p display on the T series or on the X
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Has anyone upgraded their t420 screen to the Alienware m14x r2 one? I currently have the matte 1600x900 display and while the resolution is fine man the colors and viewing angles are shiiiiit, it's the only thing that bothers me about this laptop

Wondering if it's worth it to upgrade to that panel. It's the same resolution as my current LCD, TN too, and glossy so idk but apparently the colors and viewing angles are better, just don't know if it's worth dropping ~$50+ on
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For 8gb DDR3L ram at 1600mhz is there a noticeable difference when I install another 8gb in dual channel? Provided I don't use the 8gb fully at all.

No gaymes only work related stuff
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>>59728385
help
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I'm going to buy an x220/t x230/t for graphical work, vm-s, cs:go/wow/doto2/sc2 on the road (lowest setting are fine to me). Are there any good upgrades that can be done ? I already have 8GB single stick DDR3 from my current dell 7720 (will be selling it cus 91% wear level on battery and it's too large for college uasage) and hdd+ssd.
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I'M GOIN' FULL LIBRE BOYS!
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>>59731311
t400/x200?
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>>59731505
x200
>tfw not sure if I fucked up
>tfw I decided to enable verbose mode so now I get to watch a bunch of error messages that MAY be meaningless
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>>59731560
AYYY!
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>>59731615
Congrats with your de-botneting of you x200.
I hope I will be able to do the same with my x220 soon.
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hi anons
should i get a t460 or a t460s
what's the difference besides size
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>>59731780
The amount of ass you get to eat.
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>>59731788

what do you mean by this?
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>>59731780
Get neither because they are both chinkshit, stick with **20 series or older.
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What fps will I get in osu! On minimum settings obviously, on an x301 (core 2 duo, 1.6ghz, with igpu)?
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>>59731808
Not that anon but we're not all poorfags who need to buy a 7 year old laptop then spend 500$ upgrading it.
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>>59730667
Pls respond
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>>59731945
90 iq reply.
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>>59731780
Currently considering these as well. From what I read the 460s has somewhat more high quality materials (though the 460 has better ones than the 460p as well), but a non removable battery and also it's just more expensive.
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>>59731965
I get the t420 was great, but it's just outdated. The cpu is outdated, the ports are ridiculous outdated (does it even have a DVD drive?), you 100% need to change the screen and the HDD for SSD which will cost you upwards of 300$ by itself (and pray you don't get the screen flickering issue).
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>>59731945
>>59731978
Just don't get a nu thinkpad
Please don't enable Lenovo, the new ones have shit build quality, screens are still shit (except for x1 carbon). The only reason anyone buys them is because of the thinkpad Brand.
The only reason to get a 2016/17 laptop anywayis if you need a good gpu, because CPUs have barely improved since Haswell. If you do need a new laptop, get a Dell latitude or xps.
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>>59731780
With newer generations there's not too much of a difference, as far as I can tell the slim models are just later and better specced, don't have removeable batteries (not that you get as many options for batteries anyway) and are obviously slimmer.

You're probably better off just getting whichever gets you the better specs for the price desu. I assume getting it slimmer is a tradeoff with sturdiness to some degree, but chances are the hinge or something similar will break before anything else anyway regardless of the model.
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>>59731998
The build quality on the 460 and 460s is great, maybe 10% worse compared to the 20 series but 300% better than other laptops. Also it will last you a while not only because of the waterproof keyboard and magnesium cage, but you can just replace most components.

All thinkpad screens were shit. At least it's stock 1080p shit now.

I agree on the CPU, but if you come like me from a 4 y.o. standard laptop (3rd gen i5, 4gb ram, HDD, 1372x764 (or something)) you essentially need to upgrade every single component and might as well get a new one altogether. When you do the same to a 5 year old thinkpad you'll have the same problem, just a better build.
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>>59731998
>>59732044
I heard a lot of criticism of the X230 build quality, so I'm considering an X260. Bad idea?
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>>59732070
the x230 and x220 are the fucking same I own both of them they are literally the same apart from the keyboard
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>>59732070
>I heard a lot of criticism of the X230 build quality
As far as I know, they're basically just the X220 with a different Motherboard and keyboard, plus some subsequent nuances with Lenovo's jewery with the bios. I don't have an X230 to be absolutely sure, but there's definitely one retard in this thread that loves to spew fud about the difference in the generations that they don't ever manage to source or explain.

>so I'm considering an X260. Bad idea?
If you don't mind the price and you think it'll suit your needs in terms of screen size, I don't think you can go too wrong with it.
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>>59731987
>does it even have a DVD drive?
poor bait
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>>59732124
You use DVDs weekly?
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>>59732232
Who does?
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>>59732044
>The build quality on the 460 and 460s is great
Say that to my T460 which I dropped from waist height and both screen hinges broke off.
>>59732070
very bad idea, see reply above

IGNORE THE GOOK LEL-NO-VO SHILLPOSTERS

People think that these new thinkpads, of great specs, and battery life
should exist a good laptop. However, the opposite is the case.

In these so called "Business Laptops", durability and usability are by no means
the main focus of attention. What really matters is the existence of the market of normals,
and how these laptops appeal to the normalfags.

LENOVO GOOKS!
They are the only ones!
Described as inter-thread elements. Which conducts their shilling everywhere.
It is a small rootless inter-thread clique, that does not want people to have good durable laptops.

We must start the kampf against the lenovo gooks! They want to scam us.
In all seriousness, have you noticed that now the entire thread is filled with new thinkpads
and recommendations for new thinkpads, while earlier it was everyone against der lenovo shill.

START THE KAMPF, RESTORE THE IBM REICH!
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>>59732267
Dropping a laptop or phone can always result in breaking it. Mostly a matter of bad luck. Did you drop it with the screen open?
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>>59732267
I wouldn't mind if the X230 and earlier weren't so thick (and ugly).
Also old batteries that don't last long.

That's why I'm more interested in newer laptops, Lenovo or something else, doesn't matter.
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>>59732302
Yes, I dropped with the screen open.
However, I have done the same multiple times with my t40 and it is still perfectly functional.
The point of getting a thinkpad over other laptops was that it was built like a tank and is easily repairable/expanable.
Basically giving the best of both desktops and laptops. Now that new thinkpads dont hold up no where near as well
as they used to in these catagories, due to trying to appeal to the gernal market by becoming a macbook clone,
they offer no significant advantage over other new laptops.

Why do you think the OP still recommends the t420/x220? Lenovo hasn't come out with any worthwhile laptops since the **20.
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>>59732389
But upgrading the 420 to make it your main machine just isn't feasible. It has no usb3, no HDMI out, it has a fucking DVD drive. That is even before you get to replacing the cpu, the ssd, the ram and the screen.

And there is no modern equivalent with the build quality of the t460(s) (and maybe 470 but idk). Even the Dell latitudes are at best equal and they cost a lot more.
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>>59732527
>no usb3
Solved with a $20 express card.
>no HDMI out
Not needed, has a display port connector which can easily be converted to hdmi.
>has a fucking DVD drive
So? If you want you can replace it with a hard drive, or an extra battery.
There is no other laptop with such a feature, and shows how versatile old thinkpads are.
>replacing the cpu
Not required, sandy bride i5 M processors are on par with the latest ULV U series intel cpus
>replacing ssd
Not nessecary, but useful
>replacing the ram
Not required, its quite cheap though.
>replacing the screen
Not needed, the screen is perfectly adiquate, even if shitty.

I calculated that even with all the upgrades you mentioned, a T420 would cost $500, while a entry model T460 costs $650

>And there is no modern equivalent with the build quality of the t460(s)
What are toughbooks? T460 only edges out a slight bit over other high end laptops because they are all plastic-only.
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>>59732814
>Solved with a $20 express card
aren't those quite a bit slower than real USB 3?

not him btw
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>>59733003
yes
they also tend to run hot and cause problems for your system.
>>59732814
t420 can't do an ultrabay battery
thinkpads haven't been able to do that since the _61's
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can a x220 run like 3 virtual machines for testing purposes, I am trying to learn server basics, configuring domain controllers and shit and I'm wondering if it will be too slow. I can get one with 8gb of ram and an ssd for 200€ with new battery.
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>>59733289
Yes, shouldn't be a problem. I've been deploying openstack devstacks locally on my X220 for a while.
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>>59730257
what about C scripts for a C Shell?
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>>59733593
those are shell scripts that are interpreted by the C shell aka csh
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>>59733613
Oh, I see.
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>>59733593
>>59733634
The term "script" pretty much just means code that is interpreted, and by definition if you're correctly calling something that then that's just how it's run regardless of the technical implementation.
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What's a good price for an X220 with an IPS, the best i7, only 4GB ram and a 300GB HDD?
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Lads, How I can a recognice a T60 15 of a T60 14.1 by photos alones?
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give me a good reason not to buy a p50
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>>59733800
There isn't any, execept the size and weight, but that doesn't have to be a minus tho.
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I think I'm in love with my x220
wat do?
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>>59733831
cry because you know that in near future it will become obsolete.
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>>59733819
I'm not worried about those, my current laptop is both heavier and larger than the p50. I'm just wondering if there are similar options that don't cost ~2000€
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>>59733838
why?
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Daily reminder that T420 chasis is one of the worst designs of Lenovo.
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>>59733872
Daily reminder that your mother is a guy.
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>>59733881
>so assblasted
But in fact it is. The case has lots of weak point and points where flexes, creaks and cracks.
Thinkpads will be not the same until lenovo get his shit done.
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>>59733907
Me
no
habla
inglandos
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>>59733752
To be more precise, am I being ripped off at $200?

I'm happy with the good processor and IPS screen, but I'm gonna have to upgrade the RAM and storage, so I'm still having reservations.
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>>59733936
You are not getting riped off.
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>>59733947
Thanks.

Also I'm an idiot, but if a ram stick is being sold as "X230 RAM", it should be good for X220 too, right?

Also, what limitations should I consider for an mSATA? Thinkwiki doesn't say anything about form factors or anything.
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>>59734037
It's DDR3. As long you don't do something that requires being anal about ram specs, you're fine.
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>>59734037
mSATA only supports SATAII which is only half as fast as the SATAIII port in the drive bay.
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>>59733800
It costs 2k and you don't need the GPU maybe
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>>59733872
In terms of design I'm actually more partial to the T420s, it manages to still be solid whilst being being a bit more comfortable what with being slimmer. Of course the battery sort of ruins it. That said I have no need for one when the X220 exists.
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>>59734151
I'm planning on doing CAD, matlab, visual studio, developing with unreal engine, possibly blender, and using a virtual machine. Though not all at the same time of course.
Perhaps even VR but i'm pretty sure it'd be really difficult with something still portable.

Do you reckon I'd actually need a p50 or is something less powerful still enough? Would something like https://support.hp.com/gb-en/document/c05380256 also be powerful enough? (this one's 1200€ in my area)
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>>59734274
well all of that definitely warrants an i7 and a good dedicated GPU. But why the p50? It has a lot of "business" features you don't necessarily need like smart card reader. Although the build quality is supposedly astonishing.

Idk anon if my job included all those things on a regular basis I probably would buy the p50 too. You're gonna spend upwards of 1000€ anyways might as well go all the way
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>>59732070
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>>59730667
>For 8gb DDR3L ram at 1600mhz is there a noticeable difference when I install another 8gb in dual channel?
noticeable? no
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>>59734563
thanks for answering this question after so many hours
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>>59734274
Is that all stuff you might need regularly for work, or are you in a position like being a university student where you might need each of those for small stints? If it's the latter you probably won't get your money's worth out of spending heaps.

Really depends on how much the P50 is setting you back though, on Lenovo's US outlet it's pretty cheap desu.
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>>59734525
I don't care so much for things like a smart reader but I like my touchpad middle button and plenty of ports, which the p50 would provide. Also i'd like the laptop to last 5+ years. I'm willing to give them up though, if it means saving a lot of money such as with the HP.

>>59734582
I'm just a university student so yeah, they are just for hobby (though some of the CAD models i'm working on right now are pretty complex). The problem is that my current laptop overheats like crazy just doing one of those things at a time and is pretty slow, which is quite frustrating.
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>>59732070
It's the same, if you go for the x260, it's because the integrated gpu.
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>>59734648
it really depends on how cash strapped you are. The good thing is the p50 is built to last >5 years, also the hardware won't be outdated in 5 years either. It's a nice machine but expensive.

With a HP laptop... really I would not count on it lasting 5 years. But then you could buy two of them for the same price lol.

You are taking into account the student discount?
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>t420, already have 128GB SSD
should I get another SSD or a HDD for the caddy tray? what do you suggest /g/?
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>>59734689
both, a large hdd so you can store shit and a msata ssd for misc dualboot and/or hidden porn stash.
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>>59734665
No, because
>thinner
>newer battery
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>>59734737
sheit! I wasn't even aware that this was possible (msata)
will probably get an HDD firstly and later if needed I'll get the a msata SSD
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>>59734122
Yeah but you can't get an mSATA HDD, and I want a standard two-drive setup.

It should still be plenty fast.
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my budget is €1000 +/- 200. Is there any reason not to buy a t460 (900€) right now? All other models are at least 300 more expensive and so far the only one I'm even remotely considering is the t460s for the supposedly better build quality
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>mfw I found a T60 Thinkpad for 52 dollars
>mfw it's the 15" versión
>mfw the T61 mobo is only 50 dollars
Should I buy it and do a frankenpad?
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>>59735278
>It should still be plenty fast.
it is, don't worry about it

>>59735286
get a T560
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>>59735314
>get a T560
had not considered it, why?
it has the same CPU/ssd/ram but at the campus store it's 1200. 300€ isn't worth it for me just to have a larger laptop
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>>59735363
this one's pretty sweet
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T560-i5-6200U-16GB-RAM-128GB-SSD-FHD-2880p-3K-IPS-1-Yr-WTY-/142329472890
>dat 3k ips
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>>59735443
damn that is a good deal. but I'm in europe sadly so everything is 200% in price, then with a 20% or so discount for student
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>>59735471
yuropean shipping is like $40

anyway yea get a T460 if that's your only solid option.
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>>59735363
>>59735471
How badly do you get hit on VAT and other import charges? The difference in prices between ebay.de and lenovo's outlet seem big enough to still be cheaper regardless, assuming you don't mind having to fuck around with actually getting it.
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>>59735587
>How badly do you get hit on VAT and other import charges?
20% tax, and the problem of possibly no warranty. Some models no warranty at all, and other models have parts that are not sold in europe thus no warranty. It's virtually never worth it.
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>>59735635
Fair enough, that's a shame. If that's the case then that T560 is going to be a solid buy.
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x220 or t420?
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>>59735838
>smaller or bigger? (with a little more customisability)
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>>59735780
I'm going to buy the t460 with the student discount. It's 900€ and basically the bare minimum I need (i5 6th gen, 256ssd, 8gb ram). Some things on the newer versions are nice like a newer CPU or ddr4 vs ddr3l ram but all in all it's just not worth the 300-400€ extra by a long shot.

I might eventually add a second 8gb ram stick though.
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>>59735293
Sure but only reason to do a frankenpad is for the AFFS 1600x1200 screen
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>>59733778
The plastic on the sides of the keyboard is wider on a widescreen laptop.
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Anyone has a t460? How is the build quality? I read the notebookcheck review which is really detailed and it says it was good except for some cracking noises which worries me a bit. Also the lid with the screen seems rather thin form pictures, can someone who owns it say something about the stability of it?
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>>59733800
>>59734682
forgot to ask: how much can I expect the price of a p50 to fall once the p51 hits the stores? And are refurbished ones ok? http://www.laptopoutlet.co.uk/lenovo-thinkpad-p50-15-inch-business-laptop-core-i7-6820hq-16gb-ram-512gb-ssd.html
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>>59735471
>>59735958
>discount for student
Is this only at your campus shop or also on lenovo's website?
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>>59736729
I'd never pay more than $1k for a refurb
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>>59736729
>how much can I expect the price of a p50 to fall once the p51 hits the stores
not much really. Thinkpads generally don't drop much in value due to new series, they aren't a fashion accessory like say a mac. On top of that, specs on laptops have pretty much stalled so just because the newer version will have USB-C and a GoyBot IR face scanner won't affect prices much
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>>59736755
in germany at least lenovo has a website listing campus stores selling at prices more or less fixes by them, nation wide (lenovocampus . de or something)
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>>59731311
Interested in doing this to a future x60, is it worth trying learn the process (at this point the tutorial doesn't make much sense) or just pay someone to do it?
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>>59736805
i see. And I'm guessing paying more to get a 7th gen i7 over a 6th gen isn't really worth it, right?
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Could someone help me choose a thinkpad? Im going to install freebsd and use it for assembly and c programming.

these are my priorities: Thougness/easy of repair/durability>>batery>>portability>>customization>>CPU/RAM power.

As for the thinkpads i have found a used T400(+-240$), T420(304$), and a X220(353$).

I loved the T400 but im unsure if it has what i need(maybe he is to weak, or more fragile than the others) or if for the price difference is better to take a 420 or x220 or if he has a great defect.
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>>59736962
Ah, i live in brazil so my english is bad(sorry for that) and things here are more costly.
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>>59736872
>a 7th gen i7 over a 6th gen
I doubt you will notice the difference. You're essentially paying a premium for a 5% upgrade or so because it's new. And maybe a bit more power savings but if you have an i7 and dedicated GPU you're gonna take heavy losses here either way (it's still fine for some train rides though, unless you need to render 3D video on an intercontinental flight for 10 hours it's no problem)

the p50 is seriously nice especially because the lid is really sturdy as well and it has the sandwich magnesium rollcage, I'm actually quite jelly.
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I can buy W701ds from a local company for ~400$
Specs are almost maxed out:
>i7-920XM
>16GB RAM
>128GB SSD + 500GB HDD
>Quadro FX3800M
It also includes a docking station.
Should I go for it?
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>>59736962
get the 420 for sure. It's still quite antiquated in terms of ports but at least nothing beyond usable. T or X is just a matter of size preference
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>>59736962
>T400 but im unsure if it has what i need(maybe he is to weak, or more fragile than the others)
yes it is, it's still solid and more quiet but the keyboard is mushy.
how about a X200,X201, or a T500? what are the br prices for those?
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Can anyone tell something about the W550 build quality? Is it comparable to the T series?

I cannot find them anymore on the lenovo website
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>>59737057
>Should I go for it?
definitely, but first see if you can jew your way out of the dock for -50$ (because there's no really that much need for it when the laptop weighs 10lbs)
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>>59737072
Sorry, what i mean was portability in the sense of easy of carry(I travel in bus). But thanks for the aditional information.
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>>59737229
Oh I wasn't actually talking about ports as in portability lol. Just that the t420 is quite a bit newer and you'll have less old ports no one needs.

Well it depends on what you call easy to carry. The t4xx is 14 inch and the t2xx 12 inch or something.
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>>59737172
>definitely, but first see if you can jew your way out of the dock for -50$ (because there's no really that much need for it when the laptop weighs 10lbs)
Actually I'm finding a dock really useful, as I plan on carrying that laptop alot; it's nice to have a possibility of connecting it to my screen and peripherals
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>>59737130

T500(+-221$).
X200(189$--282$--240$).
X201(+-288$).

Is there much diference between then and the X220 and T400/420?
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>>59737312
>as I plan on carrying that laptop alot
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>>59737299
Im afraid that the X series are less tought and possess less batery capacity than the T series due to then being smaller.
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>>59737451
what are you trying to prove with the picture of manly tears' first day in college?
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>>59737386
for C and assembler stuff you really don't need more than a T500 and spend whatever money you got left on a cheap ssd and extra ram. X220 is basically a small T420 and has a better screen or at least you can swap it later with a IPS panel. nevermind the T400, the other ones are way better options.
so if I were you I'd get a T500 or a T420.
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Currently a bid on ebay going for a t560 with 3K screen, i5 6200U, dedicated GPU (940MX), SSD and 8GB ram.

What would be a final price for this setup that is still a good deal? still has over 2 years warranty
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>>59737669
If in great condition 500$
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>>59737736
it's already at 600$ though. So little only? dat screen though..
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anyone else /P50/ here?
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>>59737786
yup like below 700$
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>>59737846
Hi chang
Seriously though, how's the quality? Is it good like the older ones?
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>>59737846
>numpad
why do they do this?

still jelly though, great laptop

How's the cooling? does it get toasty under load or is it managable?
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>>59729620
>needing anything beyond 768p
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>>59735838
I like them smaller desu :^)
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>>59736962
I personally own a x220 an I'm very satisfied. I got mine through ML for R$999, but it came with a dock. I'm not sure you'll find a better price now desu
The 420s are way easier to find and also have a meme keyboard.
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>>59737603
Can i put a IPS panel on the T420?
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Should I get a t420 for 100€ even though I don't need it and already have two laptops?
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>>59738025
>also have a meme keyboard.
explain, and do you mean the t420s or the t420??
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>>59738209
they have identical keyboards as far as i know
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>>59738025

Yeah the one that i found from a platinum seller is R$1100 without dock.
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>>59738038
it's a lot of work tho

http://www.ebay.com/itm/-/231650275687?

http://imgur.com/a/O8ntb
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>>59738042
yes
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How reliable is a $10 dvd bay caddy for a T420? any problems that I should know about?
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>>59738038
M14x screen swap may suit you. I think I paid $55 for one? Not bad, its glossy but eh you won't care with the colors & viewing angles.
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>>59740180
this swap is only for the s models right?
also, it's a TN panel right? is it full hd?
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>>59727468
I was thinking about buying a Thinkpad. It's gonna be used for lightweight tasks (reading .pdfs, taking notes, 720p or less Youtube videos, Linux, *BSD). It doesn't need to be the fastest machine evah, just good enough for these tasks. Excellent battery time, excellent keyboard, excellent screen, robust design and materials, <120 dollars. Any recommendations?
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>>59740587
><120 dollars. Any recommendations?
Asking your parents for more allowance.

Or a t420
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>>59740653
I don't think he can get a t420 for that amount of money, but yeah t420/t420/x220 would be perfect for those tasks
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>>59740653
>>59740673
I'm also gonna try Plan 9 on my machine (dead serious).
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>>59729607
Or leave weird shit in you car.

I have a pressure cooker, baseball bat, and a ski mask in my back seat.
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>>59740700
Well i'd suggest you get 50$ more and look for a decent xx20 laptop
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I have a t420 with 4gb of RAM. Should I throw in a 2gb that I already have or buy another 4gb?
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>>59740844
by 2 sticks of 8 gigs
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>>59737875
it's good
never owned any laptops before this, so nothing really to compare it to.
>>59737907
never gets hot and I play War Thunder and a few other games on it every once in awhile.
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>>59740587
>Any recommendations?
X200
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>>59738881
>>59738881
where the fuck is a guide like this but for t430??!
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Looking for some advice, preferably from a britfag (as they know prices better for the UK market)

I'm looking at getting this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112345186139?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

seems too good to be true though, yes I know it's a newer Thinkpad and not as good as the older ones but everything I'm looking for is in this model.
I just can't work out why this seller is so cheap.

For example, a first gen model of this with an i5 and less pretty much everything is on average £100 more elsewhere, why is this guy/laptop cheap?

What am I missing? or is it just a good deal and worth going for?

Thanks in advance.
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Anyone own that sexy nb51 x220? I want to get one because too impatient for retro.
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Does GPU passthrough work through expresscard? Looks like the necessary VT-d option is included in the bios but I haven't read of any success stories or even attempts for Thinkpads. Just regular egpu with one OS.
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So lads my CH341A and SOIC8 clip arrived. Just want to make sure I understand the process before I go and brick my thinkpad.

>connect shit up
>dump original bios
>extract vbios from original bios
>point coreboot to the ME/Flash Descriptor/GBE/vbios blobs when building it
>write coreboot.bin to the chip (???)

Am I missing anything? On the coreboot wiki it gives you a list of memory addresses in which the different blinds reside – do I need to manually write each blob to a specific memory address or can I just write the whole ROM file in one go?
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>>59740587
A T400 would be nice and you can get one in very good shape for that money, otherwise a T410 would work too.
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>>59741711
>can I just write the whole ROM file in one go?
Ofcourse
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hello, does the following laptop exist for less than or around $700 in the States (southeast):

1.) 17.1 inch, 1920x1080 (or greater) ips screen
2.) Good keyboard (I'm assuming that all of the laptops mentioned in the OP have at least "acceptable" keyboards when compared to most modern laptops, but if I'm mistake, especially about the newer models of elitebook and the thinkpad P series, please let me know)

The w700/w701 thinkpads don't have IPS as far as I can tell, so I have been looking at the HP 8730w through 8770w models but the ones that have IPS screens on ebay are selling for a a fortune. I haven't looked too in depth toward Dell's products, but at a glance I couldn't find anything in my price range either. The P70 would be perfect for me, but it's just too far out of my price range.

Are 17 inch laptop IPS screens really that expensive? Or am I looking in all of the wrong places (Amazon, Ebay), and is IPS even worth it or am I just falling for the meme? I have read and seen videos and such about how they're better, but I've never actually owned one so I wouldn't know.
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>>59741912
Get a T560
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There is a w500 with 4gb ram 320gb hard drive and t9400 for $150AUD has the 1920x1200 screen. Should i go for it?
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Hey guys, some questions. Does/can the Thinkpad T420 support 16gb ram? (2 8GB sticks). Also is pic related decent? I know it's a bit over priced more than likely, but I won't be getting ddr3 SO-DIMMS any cheaper anytime soon.
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>>59742330
and shit I guess I forgot to hold control when screenshotting. Ignore the more than likely mediocre anime.
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>>59742330
why?
WHY?
Why are you streaming anime, at 1080p, while it is windowed??? Also your taste sucks and stop using propriety software.
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>>59742381
b..because anon I'm splitting my 1440p monitor so I can shit post and watch animu at the same time. I also play Dark Souls 3 in a 1440x900 window with anime (still 1080p) in another window. I'm someone who would actually benefit from multiple monitors but refuses to admit it, so I make my 32" 1440p monitor work as much as possible.

And I know. I'm an anime newbie and simply started watching series that seemed interesting based on their descriptions.

Lastly, why not 1080p? What's the difference windowed or not? Would look like pixelated garbage full screen. I'm paying for my 100/100 connection and my crunchyroll sub, so fuck it.

Any response on that ram though?
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>>59742435
>I'm an anime newbie and simply started watching series that seemed interesting based on their descriptions.
was about to start suggesting actually good shows but then i realized they'd just be wasted on you.
So much wrong with that entire post...
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>>59742562
OK anime elitist that's fine. Thanks for the answer to my question about RAM though. Found a better deal elsewhere.
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>>59742330
>can the Thinkpad T420 support 16gb ram?
Yes

>>59742194
Yes
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>>59741943
that's 15.6" though, isn't it?
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>>59742691
Yes but they may have 3k ips panels
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>>59727468
Has anyone in her hacintoshed their T450s or a similar model thinkpad? Been thinking about doing it to my T450s to try out OSX.
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>>59742759
>to try out OSX.
Nigger are you serious? Osx is like an old locked down gimped KDE ui, what can you possibly try out? Changing the wallpaper and the login avatar? Also half of the features wont work, you might as well install Windows95.
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>mom wants a new portable laptop
>find her a sweet deal for a x230 for $250~
>anon that laptop is too ugly, I don't like the red dot and you're always having problems with yours

She will probably disregard all my advice and go and buy some Celeron piece of shit off BestBuy. Fuck.
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So I have been upgrading my T420 every now and then and I was planning to patch the BIOS with the removed white-list mod, how ever I just read in the think wiki about the existence of Oleh's mode which does that plus more and the custom Coreboot bios.

What I want to knwo Is if any one has had any experience running any of those and if they are also worth it.

Is Oleh's mod still obtainable, is it worth the pay wall?

Is the custom Coreboot bios ready to support Ivy bridge processors and are the issues listed on the wiki actually serious?
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Thoughts?
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>>59727468
Does 1080p resolution work better on the X series or on the T series?


I want to upgrade from my x220, looking for somewhere to go from here, willing to pay more
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>>59743414
about whom^?
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>>59743339
How about a 2560p or 2570p?

Anything is better than those 32GB EMMC laptops that run out of storage after one round of windows update.
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>>59743369
>is it worth the pay wall?

http://www95.zippyshare.com/v/rBVD1Bf6/file.html
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I have a X220, I love this thing. And I want to bring it to me when I get into college, but the fans are loud! Even when browsing it starts to roar. Any fix to this?
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>>59744220
first of all disable turbo boost, CPU_BOOST_ON_AC=0 in TLP, or set 'maximum processor state' in windows to 99%. also use tpfancontrol on windows, or thinkfan on linux.
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>>59743772
I love you anon
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I have a x220 with a new keyboard installed. I have a problem where the bottom left section of the keyboard sounds hollow and also vibrate slightly. is this normal?? thanks
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>>59744612
Be careful with the advanced options tho, in a regular bios you're pretty much safe but here you can easily brick it.
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Is it worth buying a Thinkpad X61? I shortly had a X220 and was extremely disappointed by it. I don't want the same to happen again.
For some reason I really like the look of the X61s, they look quite nice. For usage in bed they might get to warm though.
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>>59742965
I meant whatever apple is calling their OS now. Already have experience with Linux and Windows, but haven't touched an apple OS since when their laptops looked like clams.
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Has anyone here done an eGPU setup?

My gf got me a T420, and I'd like to try eGPU but I don't know fuck all about it.
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>>59743414
its a great machine the X1 carbon. thin, light, and a good batt life. kinda less geeky with the lesser bulk, but as sturdy to withstand the same pressure like them thick ones.
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>>59742965
>old locked down gimped KDE ui
whaaaaaaa!!! lol
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>>59745372
>I meant whatever apple is calling their OS now

Yea i meant that too. Broken features aside, we're talking about an OS marketed towards people with the level of technical knowledge of a teenage girl, how advanced do you think that is? Like i said, imagine Windows95 with a cancer flat interface. If you really want to try it just run it in a vm, there are tons of vmdk torrents out there.
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>>59745743
Which broken features are we talking about? You people sound like someone who have never used the OS before. Reminds me of the "You cannot upgrade macs, and macs are expensive" lot of old.

Not sure why someone being curious about trying out OS X evokes such a strong emotion in some of you. Would think a board like this would be all for being curious about tech and trying for yourself instead of simply regurgitating the same BS your friends say.

OS X used to have a lot of marketing aimed towards people interested in running a UNIX like operating system on their desktop, but all of that marketing is gone now. Apple seems very confused when dealing with their macs.
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>>59727756
what about with a 1440p ips panel instead? will that resolution hurt our eyes?
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>>59745847
>Which broken features are we talking about? You people sound like someone who have never used the OS before.
I was talking about hardware and software features that may not work on a hackintosh'd thinkpad you dumb fuck, you've obviously proven my point by having the attention span and general comprehension of a teenage girl.

If you havent used MacOS in a long time and want to see what the fuss is about how the fuck is a halfassed laptop hackintosh better at exploring the OS for 10 minutes than a VM image that you can load/save state/clone anywhere?

Also go back to whichever safespace subreddit you came from with your fucking "strong emotions" horse shit.
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Can anyone help me here?

I'm thinking of buying a laptop for game developing, and for playing games (to test), but all the laptops i see on the market are quite expensive.
I'd be easier if i could just settle with a desktop but i need to move around a lot, and so i need to work on the move.
I did some benchmarking for desktop builds and ended up with this (just the basic stuff):
i7 7700, gtx 1070, 16gb ram 2166mhz, as z270e, 2tb seagate, 250gb ssd samsung evo. 650W supply. All around at 1300-1500 usd.

Please don't judge that build im pretty noob at this.

The point is, im trying to get a laptop with similar specs but it seems almost impossible under unless im willing to pay over 8k, which is a huge contrast with the desktop build i was thinking of.
So the question is. Is it possible to build your own laptop with good specs?
is there anyone or a place that would do that?

Thanks guys, im new here, please be gentle.
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>>59746166
Lenovo Y series on ebay are decent gaming laptops for cheap. Other laptops are out there just keep looking. Msi, and Asus are your best bets.
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Thinkpad X240 vs X250?
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>>59746372
Also, why is it fucking impossible to find an X240 with a 1080p screen?
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Discovered today that my x240 has a BIOS Supervisor password. Am I correct in assuming that I have no way to circumvent this without replacing the mobo?
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what's the part number for the T420's ultrabay retention latch? mine popped out somehow and now things slide out if I don't store it the right way
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>>59746361
thank you, thank you

I don't know about lenovo, have not had the best experience with them. Msi and asus are very expensive. What are your thoughts on ACER?
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>>59729593

You are now aware that the 'ThinkPad' emblem on your palmrest isn't perfectly centered with a uniform black border around the silver letters. Pi related is from Lenovo's own fucking product page featuring the x230. Their own product page. Why do these retards have no standards? I know its a tiny thing that people don't care about but when you think about the fact that they let it happen, it just makes you wonder what else they didn't do perfectly. I wish Jony Ive worked at Lenovo, his fanatic attention to detail is pretty rare.
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>>59746738

If you can't see it, just focus on the red dot. You'll see the black border around it isn't uniform. This would slide to the user as nobody would really notice or care if they did notice, but its totally unacceptable on a product page on the manufacturer website.
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my x220 battery crapped out I need a replacement. I was thinking of getting one off ebay which I assume is bootleg

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-9-Cell-Battery-fr-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-X220i-0A36282-42T4861-42T4862-42T4865-/131572390201?hash=item1ea2535939:g:~ZQAAOSwHMJYGEAt

or should i buy a genuine one for more money? How much relative capacity does the bootleg have compared to the genuine one?
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I have a Dell M3800 that is 2yrs old, do not recommend.
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is there any business laptop with the following:
>full hd display that does not suck (can be tn)
>can use a quadcore
>ivy bridge or haswell
>14" or 15"
>as light as possible (If possible at all)
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>>59747212
>doesn't suck
>tn
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Picked up x120e that needed RAM and a drive.
Maxed out ram to 8GB
Put in an SSD
Installed Ubuntu 16.04

Does appear to boot faster, but still feels a little pokey in general. (compared to the HD and Lubuntu I had in it earlier.) Did I have my expectations too high for all I hear about SSDs breathing new life into old machines?
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>>59747231
ok, a full hd display that is not as terrible even if tn, as in:
the displays on the W thinkpads are better than the ips on the X series despite ips...
I'm willing to mod one if needed.
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>>59746498
corporate clients dont configure them that way so most of the used/lease market is shit stock
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>>59747212
460p i think
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>>59736345
If not, can I just simply buy a T61 and source the screen somewhere?
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>>59737846
>numpad
>in a 15 inch laptop
Absolutely disgusting.
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I can buy a t420 in excellent condition for 120€. What specifically should I ask the seller to provide to prove it's not stolen? Like what parts of the bios
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>>59747231
>I haven't ever see the W520 screen
Is almost good as a IPS and is TN.
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>>59747212
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>>59747244
It's never going to be an incredible machine given the CPU, though it should still be pretty fast with all that if the SSD is good. Where/how does it feel slow?
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>>59747453
There aren't any 15" 4:3 T61s, so you can't do a T601F with just that. You need a 15" 4:3 T60 or T60p and a 14" 4:3 T61.
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>>59747554
Thanks lad. Will look further.
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>>59745300
What were you disappointed in about the X220? Personally I think a 4:3 display would be even worse in bed.
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>>59747545
Just set i up this weekend, so I haven't really put it through a lot yet. Youtube full screen stutters sometime when I move the mouse. Right now, scrolling through facebook on Chromium while VLC plays a video filling a quarter of the screen. And while reading Yahoo news it's sluggish (yeah, I still use Yahoo,) Even my iMac that's creeping up on 9 years manages Yahoo a little better.
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>>59747612
Fucking internet. This bullshit of JavaScript must end.
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Should i get a T440 with :
Intel Core i5-4300U
8 Go Ram
500 Go
Touchpad and trackpoint dont work.
For 150 euros ?
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>>59747472
Pls respond
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>>59747694
ask for a picture of the bios screen
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>>59747621
This, so much.
The Javascript meme is a bloated clusterfuck.
Back to -> https://bestmotherfucking.website/
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>X220
>Dock
>Two 65W chargers
>500GB HDD
>No OS
>Both 9 cell and 6 cell batteries
>1TB HDD for desktops
how much do you guys think I should I sell this whole bundle for?
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I'm selling pic related
serious offers only please
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>>59747808
Sell them all separately. Think about it, you get the best deals when you buy bundles, why would you want less money when you can sell the chargers for at least $10 each seperately and add an extra couple of bucks on each packets shipping costs
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>>59747704
Then what should I see? Just that he can access the bios screen is enough?
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>>59747810

How much for the behemoth?
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>>59729294
>yuropoor
>/g/ poster
>disgusting secondhand poorfag chinkpad
>extra virgin
have we gone too far lads
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>>59727525
>older mother
of course she has to be older, she's your mother
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>>59747921

Scandi/German keyboard too so he must be posting from his cuckshed.
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>>59727525
Reminds me of Candy Samples, but a bit washed up.
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>>59747979
What kind of laptop does his mother's bull have?
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How do I configure a trackpad on Ubuntu Budgie? It's Gnome based and the trackpad is synaptic and the driver seems to be libinput. I want to change it to one finger click is left and two finger click is right.
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>>59747612
Modern websites are always going to be bloated, though I still would have thought that that thing would be powerful enough not to stutter too badly. Going overboard with ublock and umatrix is always an option.
You might be able alleviate things on the video side by using more conservative settings - I don't know what there is for VLC but there's a reasonable amount you can do to play with performance in MPV. A crystalHD card might also help but I'm not overly sure.

I have an old netbook with an atom N270 (pretty much the shittest atom you can get) and I had a lot of similar issues and still managed to get it running tolerably, it just took a bit of research and fucking around.
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Is there anyway to disable the centering check thing the TrackPoint does? It's really annoying when you try and scroll for 5+ seconds and it just stops scrolling, then you take your finger off and the mouse drifts upwards until it sorts itself out.
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>>59747850
good idea, thanks
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>>59748004

A stolen one,
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>>59727468
Hey guys, I got a R400 7440WQT, not sure what to do with it. What do you guys think I could upgrade do to upgrade it? It's got a regular 7400RPM hard drive, 8 GB DDR3, and a Core 2 Quad P8600.
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Best thinkpad to play old versions of WoW on? vanilla - WoTLK
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€900
T460
256GB SSD, 1080p

€1100
T460s
512 GB SSD, 1440p

What do guys? I read in some reviews the materials in the 460s should be even better. And the wqhd screen is really sweet. Con side it has no removable battery.
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>>59748718
As long as you don't mind spending the extra money now, you shouldn't lose much of the difference if you resell down the line. 1440p sounds like overkill to me if price is a concern, but knowing Lenovo it's probably much nicer for colours anyway so it should be worth it.
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Newfag here.

I picked up a used T60 without a hard drive from my university for free (not a theft), is it good? The keyboard has quite a bit of wear and the unit could use some cleaning, but otherwise it looks okay and boots to BIOS as well.
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>>59736855
I used like three tutorials for coreboot/libreboot to actually libreboot my x200.

If you have a job, you can pay someone on ebay $80 to do it.

You need some chip clips and a pi/beagle board so cost to do it yourself is about $50 plus computer.
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>>59746003
not really if everything scales.
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>>59749131
>You need some chip clips and a pi/beagle board so cost to do it yourself is about $50 plus computer.

lol

You can do it with a $3 CH341A flasher from china
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>>59746570
hardware flash only

>>59746609
they're all lumped together in 04W1602

>>59747244
>Did I have my expectations too high for all I hear about SSDs breathing new life into old machines?
yes, first of all thats an older chipset and also on a laptop you also have several power management features that sometimes choke the ssd in exchange for battery life(aspm), on windows one solution is to use the default sata drivers so you can set the HIPM/DIPM and partial/slumber transitions to whatever you like.

>>59748252
T61 with NVS


>>59748883
give it back Jamal


>Just that he can access the bios screen is enough?
no, make sure there aren't any bios options greyed out on any screen and ask him to boot from a random thumbdrive.
>>
>have X201t
>have T420
>have about four or five other assorted laptops
>having fun trying messing around and feeling like a shutin hermit with a bunch of laptops across my desk
>kinda just want a regular X200/X201 and an X60/X61 also

Stop me before I spend more on antiquated shit
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>>59749552
>kinda just want a regular X200/X201
I'd be going for the X300/X301 instead desu, at least there's a real difference beyond getting an extra hinge
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>>59749586
Oh yeah. I really did want one of those. Guess I'll be hunting. Anything specifically I should be aware about with them?
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>>59749600
>Anything specifically I should be aware about with them?
they dont get well with other non-thinkpad laptops
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>>59746092
All I ask was that you explained what issues one would have. You're the one with the strong reaction it seems, so maybe follow your own advice?

You have those that insist on there being no issues at all with running OS X on non-mac computers, that they run as well as they do on any mac. And then there is you. I really would like to see what issues there are, or if you're just crying "lel mac" like the popular thing is to do. I am curious about what kind of issues (besides missing support for your hardware) there might be if you run OS X on non-mac hardware.

From using using OS X on a mac mini on a daily basis I am aware of many issues (time machine shitting itself and getting corrupt, finder failing to mount/unmount network shares, finder switching : and / around for compatibility with MacOS, software shit the bed if you use a case-sensitive config with HFS+), but when people cry about issues on the internet, it seems like they people crying about them haven't even used OS X before. It's almost like these people have been told or programmed to hate on macs (can say the same about those old mac users that absolutely love macs and believe with all of their heart that macs are without flaws).
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>>59747810
700ds or 701ds?
>>
>>59749586
I stupidly won an auction for one of those. I bid on ebay days before the end of the auction, forgot all about it and woke up one day with a notification about a won auction in my inbox. Ended up paying for it because I didn't want to go through the trouble of asking for a cancelation or dealing with the potential for bad feedback.
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>>59749737
>running OS X on non-mac computers
>I am curious about what kind of issues (besides missing support for your hardware)

>(besides missing support for your hardware)
>>
>>59749934
Will there be issues with "we didn't detect a mac", will there be instability beyond that one would expect of running it with a regular mac. Are there other quirks or issues with running OS X on non-mac hardware?

If not, your reaction means OS X runs as well on compatible hardware as it would've on a macbook.
>>
I need suggetion and advice between a t460p with a i5 6440HQ or a i7 6820HQ + 940mx 2gb. I will use it daily for CAD and photoshop and sometimes for Renders.
>>
>>59750047
pic not related. It's a x230 (my first thinkpad) (OP)
>>
>>59744682
wear did you buy the table ?
>>
>>59750422
Looks like the Ikea Bekant.
>>
>>59727468
the t540p is at the post office

should I go get it?
>>
>>59750047
t460 has a garbage ssd tho
>>
>>59750009
>If not, your reaction means OS X runs as well on compatible hardware as it would've on a macbook.
not sure if you're just shitbaiting at this point, ofcourse any operating system by definition runs well on "compatible hardware" but we're not talking about compatible hardware here, we were talking about the average thinkpad, how many times do I have to mention this? I'm not going to spoonfeed you all the obvious specific issues that me and thousands of people have had with a hackintosh thinkpad which tried to run an OS that wasn't designed for. from shit battery life, wireless not working, to bad EDID reading, useless touchpad, pick one.

>>59749737
>It's almost like these people have been told or programmed to hate on macs
ofcourse because if you use windows and linux for 5,10,15 years and you want to try MacOS thinking "wowie this is gonna be great" instead you'll be severely disappointed because after five minutes the novelty wears off and you're left with a locked down retard proof UI with a unix shell, that's about it. I can see the appeal of Apple hardware like a shiny Air (see 'teenage girls' remark) or the professional need for a macbook or a i7 MacOS hackintosh desktop (dev tools like Xcode and so on) but other than that there's literally nothing special about it that you can't do with another OS and nine times out of ten a hackintosh is just a giant time sink.

I don't know how you got "lel I hate macs" from "hackintosh on a thinkpad is a shit idea" and can't say I want to find out.
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>>59750522
no
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>>59750883
Lol the p versions are all so expensive and they are made of the same crap a 400$ Acer is made of.
>>
Anyone has the t460 or t460s and can tell about the build quality? I heard the 460s is better and I have a good deal for it, but I also hear people complain about the trackpoint
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>>59727468
why aren't we doing meme OP images like the /ptg/dpg/ autists?
I nominate pic related.
>>
>>59750542

I pretend to buy a crucial or a samsung. both i5 and i7 came with 500gb HDD.
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>thinkpad nipple
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>>59750842
>shit battery life, wireless not working, to bad EDID reading, useless touchpad, pick one.
That's all I asked for. Was that so hard? Bad EDID reading is a problem with OS X in general tho. Have had to override the EDID manually fairly often. That one line is many times better than your lame "reaction image meme greentext" post.

I wouldn't say it is more locked down than other desktop operating systems. Can do many of the same modifications on OS X as you can on other proprietary operating systems. But that kind of stuff is for hobbyists, the kind of people that enjoy that kind of time sinks, even on Windows.

>I don't know how you got "lel I hate macs" from "hackintosh on a thinkpad is a shit idea" and can't say I want to find out.
That's typically the case when people randomly spout "lel mac". I've even met people who thought documents made with software on OS X cannot be viewed or edited on equivalent software on Windows. Like a jpeg or png picture gets corrupted when OS X touches it.
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>>59751131
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>>59751165
>I wouldn't say it is more locked down than other desktop operating systems.
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>>59751173
the /tpg/ part must be visible from a thumbnail
>>
>>59751221
I see more or less the same types of modifications on OS X as I see on Windows. And the stuff that protects modification of system files can be turned off.

Windows is the same kind of crap.
>>
can i put a flippin fast cpu in an older thingpad
>>
put your fast flipping thing in this

*grabs butt*
>>
ipad>thinkpad
>>
>>59751425
if ur a flippin homo
>>
>>59751435
die
>>
>>59751425
Try installing Windows, homOSeX, or GNU+Linux on an iPad
>>
instal gentoo lol
>>
>>59750883
I have been memed haven't I?
>>
>>59750883
Do you have more pictures of shitty flexible ThinkPads?
>>
New thread:
>>59751742
>>
What are some of the low end thinkpads?
I'm thinking of getting one to use for typing.
T400?T61?
Do these need WinXP?
>>
>>59751757
My x61 ran 7 just fine.
>>
>>59751771
>x61
Is the Core 2 Duo powerful enough to run Win7?
Did you disable aero?
How much RAM?
>>
>>59751810
Yes
No
4gb.
C2D machines are MADE for Vista/7 anon.
>>
>>59751865
Thanks, I just need a cheap thing for my old man to replace his current laptop.
he's still using WinXP, I don't want a headache because Win7 is slow on his new laptop.
>>
>>59727468
How to get cheap dock?
>>
>>59728385
T470

Just buy the laptop with the specs you want
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>>59729042
WTF you think it's his fault?

>>59728776
Just get financial aid
>>
>>59734274
Just get an MSi stealth pro if you want something good for University and your game stuff
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