/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

first for windows 10 on x220

How much of a meme is a 34mm usb 3.0 card? I heard once you stick it in you can barely get it out and gets hot and you get low speeds.

Seriously, where can I find a battery for the x61t that's actually compatible with the dock

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>>59751864
Look on ebay for ones that look like this on the bottom.
I'd offer to sell you mine but I don't trust you and one of the clips broke off in it.

>>59751993
I'll suck yo dick, man

I'm going to buy either the t460 or t460s. Despite being almost 300$ more expensive the s version has wqhd, faster SSD and better materials.

However I read some reports of people saying the 460s trackpoint is shite. Does someone have either of these models?

>>59752181
I have a T460s,

Trackpoint was no problem for me, but have heard others bitch moan about it.

Easily modded to fix if you aren't happy with it though.

I have an x230t, and it seems like my display panel is starting to give. What's the best replacement panel to buy? And is it possible to use one of those 1080p panels that are used in the x230 (non-tablet)?

>>59752214
How do you like it in general, and what made you buy it over the 460?

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>buy used stinkpad
>remove stupid stickers
>left with this shit

Time to buy a MBP it seems.

>>59752351
They will blend in after a week or 2 of use.

>>59752351
Just buy a new palmrest on eBay, its like $20

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>>59752359
Bought it in January and have used it a lot since then, still hasn't worn down.

>>59752383
Considering it since the palm wrest is also a little cracked. I can only find chinkshit ones though that don't have the StinkPad logo on them, are they any good? Not worth me importing a palmrest from the US to the UK for a cheapo laptop.

Also noticed today the dumbshit previous owner must have dropped it because the display is bent on one side.

>>59752321
Very happy with it, work in IT supp for a large company. T460s are the current staff refresh model which was picked by higher ups purely because it weighed less.

Depending on what your intended use is, it's a solid release, and you seen the edges? I enjoy occasionally running my finger along it.

>>59752509
Normal work stuff, relatively demanding software in terms of memory but less so in cpu. So the reason I'm considering the 460 is because upgrading the ram is easier. I could just add a second 8gb stick instead of replacing the 4gb with 16 (in addition to the soldered 4gb).

Other than that I heard the 460s is really built better

My x220 has screen tearing near the center of the screen when I scroll up or down in my browser.
What am I doing wrong?

What's the best relatively cheap eGPU? I'd do the research by myself if I had any idea where to look

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>>59753127
Fuck you.

>>59753125
Didn't enable any tear free options.

>>59753339
mean

Is $300 CAD a reasonable price for a T420s with 6gb ram, 1600x900 screen and a 250gb HDD with a 500GB hdd in the ultra bay? The battery is at 90%

t420 or t430? Leave the keyboards out of the equation

>>59751742
Are X250 and X260 slower than the X230?

>>59754115
Both are garbage, TXXX or kys.

Is X250 a good Thinkpad? I need a laptop for work.

>>59751801
True, plus, at least on linux, I have issues with most devices plugged into the card (they work OK with 2.0 ports).

>>59754135
Txxx?

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Best distribution for an X220?

>>59754515
Arch.

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>>59753127
I did a google search of 'goat tier egpu' and bought 5 of them
currently playing crysis with twin GTX1080 on my T43p

T430 will have USB 3.0, better processor/graphics and an longer battery but will only use OEM batteries.

>>59754188
If you are fine with a 12" display.

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Does anyone have any advice for debadging a Thinkpad, or at least tastefully obscuring the logos?

I removed the palm decal(?), and while I like it more than a logo I'm not the biggest fan. I was thinking of covering the exterior in some type of black tape or sticker.

I think trying to perfectly match the logos would look weird, so I'm thinking about just solid black lines, just big enough to obscure them.

I have black duct tape and electrical tape but think these would wear quickly and end up tattered and gross. Has anyone tried this or implemented something else that could help with my autism?

>>59755162
You can get one of the chink palmrests without the logo. For the lid you'd probably have to cover it up, the carbon fiber vinyl wraps are pretty neat looking

>>59755162
1.) Get a polystyrene sheet and cut to size/shape
2.) Modeling cement
3.) Putty to fill the inevitable gaps around the edges for a smooth finish
4.) Sand it.
5.) Sand it again.
6.) More sanding.
7.) Paint it. Rattle cans are good enough, assuming you get your paint from a model shop and not from a hardware store. You will never get an exact color match, so you'll have to paint the whole thing. Naturally, this means disassembling the computer.

>>59753127

get a chink one off of banggood

Just bought a T430s, does it have horrible battery life like the T420s?

>>59755130
Is the T series a lot more fitting for the 1080p resolution?

>>59754222
T5XX*

>>59755162
Nothin personell but I hope you die in your sleep for debadging a StinkPad.

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>>59755162
heresy

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https://www.scan.co.uk/products/125-lenovo-thinkpad-x230-core-i5-3320m-intel-hd-4000-gpu-8gb-ram-240gb-ssd-windows-7-pro-12-month-wa

8GB RAM
Ivy Bridge i5
240GB SSD

Deal of the decade?

My T500's charger isn't working anymore, are 3rd party chargers fine or do I need to find a genuine Lenovo charger for 'best performance'?

Is L430 on same quality level as T420?

>>59756105
This is a joke right.

This has to be a joke.

Thinking of getting a cheap thinkpad to load gentoo on to carry around anyone with an x60, how does it perform? I only plan to do web browsing and programming really

>>59756303
lol no

>>59754115
I just got a T420 touch, love it so far. Perfect for what I needed it for, which was shitposting, porn, coding practice, wating movies, and some gaming (in that order).
Side note- I really didn't think I'd use the touchscreen at all and I actually use it quite a bit. It makes scrolling down pages super convenient when laying on the couch reading/shitposting here.

>>59755376
Carbon fiber vinyl does sound neat

>>59755378
I don't know how I feel about a full repaint but this is a solid plan. I feel like bc it can't be a perfect match I'm almost drawn to a covering in some ways. A faint outline might be better than a tiny black box but I'm not sure.

>>59756083
>>59755784
but just
like
just imagine
really just think
solid black laptop
no identifying factors besides its form
how doesn't that bring you to orgasm?

>>59756327
Elaborate

>>59756665
I'm not you and only guys with tits make me orgasm.

>>59756845
>270 (two hundred and seventy) pounds for that
Maybe at half that price it would be a good deal.

>>59756966
Go on, find one then faggot.

>>59754099
Fuck no. You can get that for ~180usd where I live (local)

>>59756966
>buy one for half the price from ebay
>drop an SSD in it for pennies
wow

>>59757093
>>59757179
this

>>59757179
agreed

>>59757093
BTFO

Should I buy a X201 or a elitebook 2560p? Which one offers better Linux support?

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>>59757093
absolutely BTFO

>>59757179
FUCKING ICE COLD

>>59757093
YOU JUST GOT BTFO

>>59757179
anon delivering the heat

>>59757093
i got my x230 (same spec, except 128gb) for £150

search more

I swear I'm not a manlet but replacing the DVD drive with a hard drive makes my t420 feel so heavy

>>59757625
manlet

>>59757625
>not a ssd
poorfag manlet

>>59757625
>not having 3 drives and a 9 cell
manlet

>>59751742
PSA

Don't buy IPS screens from bumblesale on ebay. They develop ghosting after 3 months and don't honour warranties.

>>59758046
If you bought an IPS panel for your X220/X230, they all ghost anyway.

>>59758046
There are 4 different panels for the X220 and 2 of them do not have ghosting

>>59758361
They all have ghosting. The T series (E-IPS) panels (SLT1/SLT2) just have much less than the SLB1–SLB3. The SLB3 also has much less ghosting than the SLB1.

>>59758046
delete this

Is there anyway to fix the fan noise on an X240?

t430s best think

Hey guys I have a T61 with nvidia quadro NVS 140M, love this thing so much but I bought a brand new 9 cell battery and it's not charging.... Wondering if this is a common problem and the best fix.

I've tried removing the battery and AC adaptor then holding the power button down for 5 seconds, not sure why I thought that would help.

>tfw my x220 arrives tomorrow, the extra RAM stick the day after, and the SSD on saturday

Am I cool now

>>59758104
>>59758390
also on ebay nearly every preferred panel model listing is going to misrepresent in some way. lot of SLTx "compatible" listings. I just got what was guaranteed to be an IPS (some fools will even try to pass off a TN panel by sneaking in "uhh by the way this is a TN even though we put an IPS model # in the title. it's ~*compatible!*~") and cheapest, and lived with the ghosting

>>59758756
whalecum to the club

>>59758753
>I bought a brand new 9 cell battery and it's not charging..
well send it back, don't you have a warranty of some sort?
or did you buy some chink battery from a guy on the street?

>never actually handled a thinkpad or seen one in real life
>order a t420
>it just came in
Holy shit this is the most beautiful laptop I have ever seen.

>>59758924
post pics, we need them for the testimonials

So I found a local seller selling a T400 with a clean keyboard/touchpad (no signs of wear, no shiny keys), two official power chargerd, a 6-cell battery and a 9-cell battery (this one sealed), and the docking station, for 100$. With a 30-days warranty and the option to test it in person.

But I couldn't buy it because after making a few questions the seller went nuclear and acted very rude for no reason and said I now couldn't buy it.

Jesus...

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>>59758924
>>59758933
I am in love with the design. I don't have a battery yet though so its off

>>59751742
Do they make numpads for the t420 that goes in the ultra bay?
I have a friend who wants one for when he's working on excel n shit, but doesn't want an external thing

>>59759139
Tell him to sell the T420 and buy a T520

Just installed Windows 8.1 on a T420 and it's fast as fuck and literally everything werks, battery thresholds, power manager, wireless, everything.
What was the problem again? Why should I use Windows7?

>>59759267
t520 doesn't have a numpad either

>>59754515
Xubuntu

>>59754515
Lubuntu

What's the best thinkpad for a dual sociology and criminology major? For general purpose use word processing, google docs, research papers, etc. Able to have many active tabs open in browser and fluidly switch between for research purposes. Able to play HD video, decent battery life, nice keyboard, and durable quality (I tend to be hard on shit). Do like to watch movies and have an 8 TB HDD filled with anime and movies, but normally connect to TV.

>>59760438
don't really play any games anymore but used to be really into Monster Hunter, Dark Souls, and would play games like Borderlands socially

>>59760438
>>59760509
T460p

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>>59759052
>>59758924
>>59758933
>not getting the superior 16:10 T410

>>59761184
1st gen i3/5/7's are comfy. How's the viewing angles compared to the T420?

>>59761184
>1440x900 screen is fucking terrible for viewing angles
>1st gen core i series CPUs that enjoy mediocre performance and shit out heat
It's still an alright machine to work with, but if you're serious about wanting the screen ratio then why half-arse it, just get something with 4:3.

>>59761184
>1440x900
>better than 1600x900

/tpg/'s thoughts on the new x1 carbon? VS t470? which one should I pull the trigger on?

Is it possible to put a T420 in a T410 case? It'd be great to have Sandy Bridge with a 16:10 screen. Alternatively, is there an aftermarket 16:10 screen for the T420?

is there a laptop that's extremely easy to dissassemble (at least to the fans/processor?) because I'm too retarded to disassemble anything complicated and I'm tired of having to deal with secondhand laptops from my mother that regularly reach 100c and blackscreen (with a fresh wipe and windows install mind you)

Every time I install linux, there is always no fucking sound.

>>59761570
Seems the two models have radically different port layouts.

>>59761611
are you in the audio group?

I know that you can put an x220 keyboard in an x230, but can I put an x220 keyboard in an x230 tablet?

>>59760536
Does the CPU throttle at high temps?

>>59761730
I don't know to be honest. GNU/Linux is foreign to me.

>>59761844
no

>>59761864
are you using ALSA or pulseaudio?

>>59760536
What CPU? Is i7 worth the money?

>>59761890
I think it's pulseaudio.

>>59761920
I hear you need it to virtualize at decent speeds

>>59761941
You should try the things in this article:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting
Most of the stuff on the Arch Wiki will help with Linux in general, so it should be just fine.

>>59761949
shit I clicked the wrong post
>>59761940

>>59761920
yes

Can you gents recommend a good refurb Ultrabook?

>>59755130
EliteBook 2570p is best ThinkPad

>>59762117
yes

>>59762117
>no msata
lmfao

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>>59762117
>HP

Am I being pranked

>>59762265
Find me another 12" laptop that will take a 3.4GHz i7 QM and a drop down a flight of stairs.

>>59761597
T61

I just got a new thinkpad for work, the boss bought me a TP X1 Carbon and a bunch of extra toys to play with.

>>59762167
>needing msata
>not using 2 2.5" SSDs in RAID0

>>59762479
>raid0
>old thinkpads
>wat

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Should I get a X220 or an X230 ???

The keyboard on the X220 seems nicer but the X230 has more ram and a better GPU, its also 40 dollars more

pls help

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>>59762705

>>59762705
backlit > non.

I really dont know why people hate on the newer style of keyboard. I prefer it.

>>59762768
So buying a T430 was a mistake?

>>59762705
The X230 keyboard is pretty good.
And you can always replace it with an X220 keyboard later if you want.

>>59762774
It's not backlit. It has the Think Light like other Thinkpads

>>59762705
I have used both and they are pretty much the same machine.
The keyboard has a worse layout, but you can fix that with xmodmap.
The battery life is better with the x230, but there is no huge performance difference.

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Well, I might have made a somewhat retarded purchase.

I bought a t420 that has a cracked screen bezel, a cracked palm rest bezel, and a small mark on the screen for 115 dollars. I see some on ebay for the same price with a smaller hard drive (500 gb on the one I have) for the same price, but without windows installed. I could have easily installed windows myself, and it appears the parts that I could replace of the bezel would equal the price of one that wouldn't have those problems, but without the screen blemish.

The cracks I put epoxy on to make sure they don't spread, and the small spot is noticeable on the bottom part of the fingerprint windows and on black screens.

Is it worth it to replace this screen?

>>59754515
Gentoo

>>59756439
The biggest problem with the x60 is the fluorescent backlight which will rape your eyes.

>>59762946

It isn't worth the back-ache,

>>59763753
What do you mean?

>>59754515
TempleOS

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For you :^)

>>59762946
You fucking retard, is that what 100k /tpg/ posts taught you?
sell it and get a better one.

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What's the point of 34mm SSD expresscard if you can't boot from it?

>>59764454
Extra storage for your weebo r34 hentai

>>59764454
It's not like they make Microdrives anymore

>>59764454
there's no fucking point.

you could install programs on it... or just put that money toward a (bigger) sata ssd.

>>59764454
Just install your bootloader on the HDD that you would have anyway and direct it to the SSD from there. The BIOS would probably be spinning it up to check if it's bootable so it's not like you're losing speed.

Or you could just steer clear of expresscard SSDs since they're overpriced and slow desu

Hey guys,

My co-worker just gave me his "old work laptop" and I'm trying to figure out what the fuck it is, it says T440 under the screen but I cant find a proper model number anywhere and apparently all T440's have vastly different specs.

Can't check in Windows because the charger I ordered wont get here for another week.

It has a "core i7 vpro" sticker on it and looks like it came with windows 8 pro.

any ideas? or know where I can find a proper model number?

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Purchase advice

Location: Australia
Price range: <$1000 (preferably)
Size range: 13"-15" (14" probably the sweet spot)
Performance requirements: i5, 8gb RAM (web, coding)
Other requirements: 1080p wanted

>>59765286
there are some cheap t460ps on ebay

>>59765286
W520/W530 if you're happy with a fat 15", T440(p ideally) or later if you want 14" with a good screen.

>>59764096
Where do I get one

And how much do they cost these days

>>59765286
T420

It'll cost you like $400-$500, you can get i5 or i7 models, even if it has shit ram you can always add more for like $30.

There are meme-HD and 1080p screens, that's the only thing you need to look out for. Or you can always replace the screen for, what, $70?

my t440p doesnt charge the battery. when i plug it in it says "0%, plugged in, not charging"
how do I fix that ?

What's the purpose of going through that again?
>>59764115

>>59754125
Yes

>>59761476
This. 16:10 is the better aspect ratio but only compared to a 16:9 screen with the same or less horizontal resolution

>>59765767
Bought this for 20€
You really just have to find some 50/60-year-old gentleman to sell this kind of stuff, because I mean these aged senpaitachi were the ones who bought these brand new

>>59761597
2560p/2570p. Remove some screws and the bottom panel just pops off.

T440p or T460p for uni?

>>59766646
Don't buy a p. If you don't do constant 3D rendering and simulations get the 460. If you do get a p50 or something. The p series is built like a 300$ Acer but is 1200$ because it's a t

>>59766702
Is the i7 even worth it if I'm not rendering or doing any intensive functions aside from HD video playback and streaming and heavy browsing for research? How hot will it get? Would the i5 be better and/or more stable?

>>59758979
There was something wrong with it. Probably stolen

>>59764096
I've read that keyboard on this is absolute garbage, exact same rubber cones style like on Psion Revo and it feels worse than 2013 thinkpads.
Could you take off one key and take a photo to confirm my concers?

>T letter actually stood for "titanium chassis" in Thinkpads once upon a time.

>>59766810
Reed the notebook check reviews, they are very detailed by some German. He says the 460p runs really hot, and the built quality is shit (people on the thinkpad Reddit also confirm this)

What you need is 8gb ram and SSD, a normal i5 will seamlessly handle anything not CPU intensive (rendering, games, simulations)

Personally have the 460 very happy with it. 460s is nicer but more expensive

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>>59767000
I must do what the mister trips guy says :D
Here

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I have a T420 that I use for everything, and it never leaves my desk. The display is slowly killing me though, so I'm getting an external display soon, only problem is, I'm not sure how to optimally set the two of them up.

Pic related is my current plan, get a monitor stand, open the T420 to 180° and put half under the stand, and use the external as the only display. I like the keyboard but don't need the screen. If anyone has thoughts or suggestions, let me know.

Is the E430 a good model?
Found one for $250.

>>59767500
No, it's pretty poverty-tier. I personally don't mind them as consumer grade shit for the fact that they get trackpoints and decent keyboards, but at that price I don't see why you couldn't get T or X model.

>>59767073
I thought most of the "s" models were shit and prone to overheating given the small form factor

>>59767414
how about you use a dock with a good usb keyboard like a normal person?

>>59767414
get a dock and put thinkpad in corner of desk, then put monitor and keyboard and mouse in front of you

>>59767414
Underrated post
Legit autism right there

>>59767766
I was thinking about buying a X201 but the E430 have around the same specs but don't look like shit.
The X201 is smaller, though.
>poverty-tier
I'm from a 3rd world country so it's actually normal-tier for me.

>>59768322
get t420 for 220$ and stfu

>>59768322
>E430 have around the same specs
It's a couple generations newer. If you actually need performance out of it, it might suit you better I guess, though they're far from durable. Just have a thorough look for T420's and T430's, they should be out there. Edge models if anything seem to end up with people trying to sell them at similar prices just because they all fucking break and it's not apparent to them that the market is saturated since nobody is selling Edges.

>>59768329
>>59768383
Ts are large and thick, I want something small and preferably light so I can carry with me.

>>59768467
get a X220 then

Is it worth it to get a T430 and replace the keyboard. Or just get a T420?

just flashed libreboot on my x200, im really proud of myself

Does anyone here have either an x200 or a t400 with the ati chip.
Can the x200 handle 1080p YouTube and if not can the t400 do 1080p with the ati graphics and the 1440x900p screen

>>59768516
What about an X230?

>>59768603
x240?

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>>59761184
>not getting a T420, dock, and 2 cheap 16:10 monitors

>>59768579
The x200 can, but it's obviously pointless w/o a second monitor

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Thnkpadwaifu?

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>>59768648

>>59768224
>>59768240
>>59768319
Can't find a single dock where I live, and importing one would be inefficiently expensive, and I'd also have to find a keyboard which I like as much as the T420's, another unnecessary expense. I'd rather invest that in a quality display since I do a lot of visual work.

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>>59768666
Check.

>>59768633
I'm trying do decide whether to get an x200 with the affs IPS screen or the t400 with the ati graphics and the 1440x900p screen. Any thoughts? I already have a w500 wuxga but I'm looking for something slightly smaller

>>59768622
Noice, same here, but with x220 and one monitor. The dock have a 2tb hd for backup. i just plug and the sync do the rest.

So I just got an X220 from ebay, and I'm in love.
Only problem is, the upper-right corner of the lid seems to crack open whenever I open the lid (see pic related). I suppose this is because that's where every right-handed person will pull to open it, and it just happened with use.

It's trivial to click it back together, but it's a bit annoying having to either be really careful when opening the lid, or having to click it back every single time. Plus, I'm afraid the problem will only worsen with time.

Is it worth returning over this? I got a pretty sweet deal I think, £160 with an IPS and an i7, whereas almost every other listing had a TN and was a bit over £200, but it does come with only 4GB ram and a small HDD so I'm gonna be spending extra on upgrading that, and I'd be really disappointed if this fault led to the thing dying on me within a year or two. I want to keep it for a long time, since it's only for lightweight work anyway and won't become outdated for that any time soon.

So do you think it will hold up properly if I just carefully drip a couple drops of superglue on there to keep it together? Or should I try to find one that's in better condition? Besides that this one seems to have no other flaws - the battery moves side to side about 0.5-1mm but I don't think that should be a problem.

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>>59768744
I am an idiot. Pic is here.

>>59768766
There should be a screw under a black cover in the corner somewhere i think, try tightening that up

>>59768785
Also sluperglue may cloud the screen, i had no issues using it on the palmrest but i don't know if I'd risk it

>>59767414

How did you make this graphic? Its very pretty.

>>59768744
Remove the bezel and check if the clips are broken, if they are then just get a new bezel, they're cheap

>>59768785
The screws are down at the bottom, can't see how that would affect it up there

>>59751742
How much time would it take for x220's CPU to compile from source as we have to do for every other software in Gentoo?

I'm thinking of going deep in Gentoo and use it as my daily driver in a few months, so I was first considering an x200, but it's CPU seems really obsolete.

So, will x220 do just fine or should I even go higher and get an x230? No T or W models, please.

Thoughts on the X1 carbon?

>>59768806
Thank you, in Adobe Illustrator on an isometric grid, I do /gd/ for a living.

>>59768854
I'm pretty sure there are some on the top corners, there are on my w500 and x230t

>>59768991
I'm pretty sure there are not since I'm using one now and I've removed it before.

>T460 uses low-refresh PWM to dim the display
>girlfriend's supposedly "consumer-grade trash" Asus Zenbook does not use PWM of any kind
>none of our smartphones use PWM

What the fuck, Lenovo? I guess I'll be sticking with the CCFL in my T400 for a little while longer.

>>59768854
Right, so I opened it up a bit more and it seems I found the culprit - the strip across the top of the back of the lid is broken off from the main body of the lid in that corner. Sorry for the highly blurry picture (stupid 2016 flagship phone can't properly focus on close-up shots), but you might be able to make out a small grey spot next to the red cable - that's a bit of unpainted, broken off plastic where the top strip is meant to connect. (You might be able to notice that said strip is also at a small angle to the lower body of the lid, which shouldn't be possible.)

>>59769017
As you can see in the picture, there is indeed a small screw.

So if I want to replace this, what should I buy? It looks a bit more involved than just the bezel.

Or superglue? It's on the outside of the lid frame, so if I'm careful it shouldn't got anywhere near the screen. But it's also a high-tension area (since it got broken in the first place), so I don't know how durable that would be. Or ask for a partial refund since this wasn't mentioned in the listing?

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>>59769064
Holy shit I am retarded. Pic.

>>59768879
Compiling most things with my W500 goes fast enough. But stuff like Firefox will take hours unless you have a different machine to assist with compiles.

>>59769077
That top strip is to house the antenna, and it coming loose is a common problem on these models..

The screw you are seeing there is not for the bezel, they are located on the bottom corners hidden under stickers. remove those and gently pry it off to have a better look

>>59769133
>fast enough
What is "fast enough" quantitatively?

My T420 is out for delivery. Haven't owned a laptop since my Gateway NV53 shit the bed after just 3 years. Needs a HDD so I'm hoping the old one from the gateway will work, if not I'll order one when I order some ram.

>>59769195
I don't actually have stickers. Either way I can see exactly what's broken so I don't need to remove the bezel right now.

What would be your advice to fix this then? Can I just replace the part? I don't think searching for "that top part of the back of the lid, lenovo X220" will yeild much.

I'd really like some advice, as the laptop in general would be great if not for this.

>>59769229
Few minutes. It isn't like I'm sitting around waiting for it to finish compiling stuff. It's mostly very large projects like webkit and firefox that is a problem for those old C2D chips. The time it takes for them to compile stuff is long enough for it to impact how you use your laptop.

Compiling firefox took about 2-3 hours on my W500. The same task takes about 20 minutes with my i5 4690. It takes longer to compile smaller utilities too, but the time it takes to compile them does not impact how I use my laptop. I let it run in the background and it's usually done when I'm finished using it. I also use distcc (with a machine running with a G3450), which makes a huge difference.

>>59762774
>backlit > non.
Wrong
backlit keyboards have a shitty flat design which gets greasier much faster that non-backlit which have a sandpaper-ish feel

T430 or T420?

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I'm not a smart man when it comes to linux, what do I do if I want thinkfan to auto start in lubuntu?
right now I have to start it manually at every reboot with "/etc/init.d/thinkfan start"

pls respond

>>59769330
Do I have to recompile whole Firefox every time there is an update to it or just compile it the first time I setup my system and just apply update patches later on?

>>59769275
You'd have to replace the whole lid cover. I haven't had this problem myself (yet) so I can't really help you more than that

>>59769445
>pls respond
fuck off
you're not entitled to an answer

>>59769430
whichever one you can find in good shape for less money on ebay

>>59769460
You don't have to project invalid hatred every time.

>>59769451
Usually you compile all of firefox every time. gentoo has -bin packages for firefox tho. At least it did when I last used it back in 2008.

>>59769504
Why? Firefox has a proper build system with source file dependencies set up. No reason to build all for every little patch.

>>59769458
Dang it, alright then.

Would anyone strongly advise me against using superglue despite it being some distance away from the screen? I've never really tinkered around with laptops - it looks like I just need to be careful, but if it's still really risky then I'll probably just get a new part.

>>59769504
Wow, so Gentoo is really not meant for old hardware, huh?

Maybe I should just stop at Arch and collect some money to buy a workstation.

>>59769535
You should test how the plastic handles the superglue.
I managed to "melt" part of my thinkpad by using glue that contained a really aggressive solvent

>>59768516
The difference in price for them over here is quite big, does it justify the slight improvement in hardware?

>>59769533
Firefox might, but I assume gentoo create a brand new fresh work directory every time you compile a new version of firefox. Can't think of any source based package managers that keep the work directory of everything you install.

>>59769625
then get a X201

I find my T420 quite noisy. Not the fan, just in general, it makes a lot of computing noises. Like there's a barely perceptible but very real buzzing sound when I'm scrolling. Is that normal?

>>59769659

>Like there's a barely perceptible but very real buzzing sound when I'm scrolling

Its something in the display. I have an E130 that does it. When scrolling I hear a buzzing, when there's certain elements moving on screen I hear it too. Not when video is playing though.

>>59767296
Is that inner knob buckle-springed or the rubber dome circle around is the spring itself?

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>>59768648
this chi(n)k obviously :^)

>>59769812
Is she anorexic?

>>59769445
>>59769460

I figured it out, seems like a specific lubuntu problem.

>>59769885
She's not A*zu. Asian girls eat lots of noodles and dogs.

>>59769938
Make them eat burgers then.

>>59754515
Is Debian not a good distro for support?

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>>59769760
huh?
It seems that the outer ring is made out of soft plastic. This it self works as a rubberdome and also springs the button up. The button itself it mounted to the inner hole as you can see.

Really interesting switch type

>>59770104
Do you have Maintenance Manual? Does it involve butterfly mechanism explanation?

>>59759052
Dude tonys is so good.

>>59770235
>Do you have Maintenance Manual?
Yes
>Does it involve butterfly mechanism explanation?
I think they refer the folding mechanism as "butterfly". They don't actually talk about butterfly in this manual that I got from thinkwiki

>>59751742
So my X201 does this weird thing where it'll turn on in my bag despite the lid being closed and it being suspended.

Obviously being insulated inside my bag it gets really hot, and the 1st gen i5 doesn't help, and it'll overheat and shut off.

I can reproduce the problem by pressing on the lower left plastic bezel and it'll turn on from being suspended. I thought it was a magnet?

Is there anyway to fix this? It just started happening like 2 weeks ago.

>>59751742
Where I can download drivers for T22?(98, 2K or xp)

>>59770603
Disable wake up on lid sensor and reassign it to power button?

>>59770681
Yeah, but is there a way to fix the lid thing?
Because of how my lab works it's really convenient to just keep closing and opening the lid without touching any of the keys (gloves with chemicals on them)

>>59770722
Disassemble the lid and look yourself. it is located in left side of the bezel.

>>59770766
Did that, blew the dust out and now I can't reproduce the problem.
Guess it's fixed?

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>T530
How do I fix this? Also is there any site where I can buy a more resistant shell? Is this semi-cheap plastic Lenovo jewery?

>>59771086
It's a feature, not a bug (tm)
Actual clamshell underneath is intact.
I may suppose that if there are different OEMs for plastic parts (my palmrest is from Mitsubishi for example), there is different composition and maybe durability properties too.

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Is there any place I can get a cheapish X200/X201 keyboard?
All the ones on Ebay are >40 cuckbucks
Aliexpress doesn't have any

>>59771305
Amazon

>>59771468
All the OEM ones are still over 40
Why are they so expensive?

What are some of the cheapest thinkpad you can get but still usable.
I just need one to use as dedicated windows machine for typing stuff.

does lenovo still fabricate T420s?

>>59771535
X200s

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>>59768648
>>59769812
pic related is the correct answer

>>59771674
That's the same girl.

I'm looking to get a cheap thinkpad to tinker around with, preferably a 12" screen with a decent battery. What sort of price range am I looking at in GBP on eBay?

>>59772012
200 squid

>>59772012
Just got myself an X220 with IPS and i7 for £160, but I then spent another £75 for an SSD and to double the 4GB of RAM (but you can cut the SSD for a total of like £185).

Also I'm >>59768744 so depending on how it goes I might return it. Most of the other options are around £190-£200, if you don't want to wait for a cheap opportunity.

>>59768719
Hey anon posting from my x200 with glossy affs + other upgrades. It's a very nice screen desu. Shit vertical viewing angles but really nice horizontally. Colours are also v nice as someone that does colour work

It's a good upgrade but a word of warning! You need to get a x200 that has a CCFL backlit LCD (as opposed to LED) and there is NO way to determine this without stripping the whole thing. AFFS uses the same CCFL data cable and inverter board (which are absent on LED models). You can buy these too and put them in but it's a bit of a faff.

Luckily, I bought 2 broken x200s when I did this so I got one with CCFL and LED. Transplanted the LED to the shitter mobo, fixed it and sold it to pay for the screen + ssd haha

No experience with the t400 sadly

>>59772012
you can get x230 i5 for around £100-200 depending on the amount and type of storage you want

>>59768879
Doing this on an x200 would make me cry.

Maybe if you wanted to slot in an x201 mobo for an i series cpu but that sounds kinda convoluted.

X220 will be slow enough to notice but not too bad I think.

I spilled coffee on my T420, and now it won't turn on.

It turns on when I remove the battery + CMOS batter and plug it in, and I've pretty much narrowed the issue down to the actual power button not working.

There seems to be no way to actually get at the power button switch as it is covered in plastic, is there any way to clean it or do I need to just replace the keyboard?

>>59772431
>muh spill-proof keyboards with draining technology

AHAHAHAHA THINKKEKS BTFO

>>59772012
In my experience most of the broken x200(s) on ebay uk are not broken, so I spent £20 inc. P+P on the machine I'm typing on.

12" 16:10 and ~5hr on 6c bat is pretty comfy

>>59772289
Can you educate a dumb anon on why AFFS is good / better than IPS?

>>59772431
If the liquid caused a short on the mobo, often the CMOS battery gets fucked (won't even charge on AC)

Any post beeps? Does it turn on and then switch off a few times before it boots?

>>59772037
>>59772254
>>59772303
>>59772527
Been looking at these types or models and all the sellers are like "Will good a charge for at least 30 minutes"
Like, what good is that to me, man? Anyone got any experience in buying used laptops from eBay and what they're batteries are like?

>>59772642
I recently purchased a t420 from eBay and the battery life is around 2hours 30 of constant use. my mate also bought a x230 last month which apparently only had 30 minutes battery life, but ended up being 3 hours.

>>59772642
Batterys are pretty hit and miss desu

Would recommend you choose a seller that posts a percentage of original capacity as these are much more likely to be correct.

Bear in mind that the quality of the battery can swing the price by around £60

If it's 30 mins charge and not the right price, it's not worth your time

Keep trawling and you'll find a gud un

>>59772565
Yeah when I power on with the CMOS removed it boots up and runs fine. I've had it boot a few times when I hammer on the power button, but its really rare so I think that switch just has some shit on it making it fail to register

Dumb question, when powering on the screen says "Initialising Intel boot engine" and then it says "Media check failure, please connect cable" (or something to that effect). It then boots properly. Does anybody know what it means, and whether that's normal?

>>59772487
The drainage holes actually worked pretty well, and its pretty easy to remove the keyboard so I'm not sure what you are so triggered about lol

>>59772538
Sure anon

In a basic sense, your LCD screen (like your thinkpad screen, monitor etc) can be broken down into 2 components: The panel (technology that makes the pretty colours) and the backlighting (thing that makes the colours actually visible to your eyes)

The backlighting method determines what panel technologies can be used with the screen. There are 2 common backlighting technologies: CCFL and LED

CCFL uses cold cathode fluorescent tubes to light the screen. The panel technology that offers the best colors and viewing angles for CCFl backlit screens is AFFS

LED (which is much more common now) uses well...LEDS (no shit haha). The panel technology that offers the best colours and viewing angles for LED backlit screens is IPS.

CCFL screens need an inverter board to drive the backlighting lamp whereas LED screens do not need any other input.

CCFL data cables typically use ~30 pins for laptops and likewise LED data cables typically use ~40 so the two are not compatible (They will also vary hugely between models so an LED cable will not work with another screen in all likeliness)

As for peformance, there isn't really an argument whether AFFS or IPS is better. ~8 years ago choosing the best between AFFS and IPS panel would be fairly difficult to judge and would mostly come down to personal preference. Nowadays, LED is the king as everyone makes them ahead of CCFL (cheaper + cleaner) so IPS is your only real choice...unless your upgrading an old thinkpad haha

In that case, whatever you are prepared to settle for is fine. If you already have a CCFL screen, get a CCFL AFFS. If you have LED, get a LED IPS.

In most cases the choise is also made for you, e.g the x200 only has AFFS as a popular upgrade which requires the CCFL inverter board + data cable to work.

Hope that helps

>>59769421
Have you tried not being a greasy fuck? Take a shower, wash your hands, and stop touching your face.

What's the difference between "29++" and "44++" batteries?

As far as I've been able to gather the ++ are the 9-cell (as opposed to the + which are 6-cell), so they supposedly have the same capacity. Is one of them a newer or better version?

>>59772787
Yeah may well just be a fucked key, cmos does also sound dodgy though

>>59773014
well the secret way to power on a thinkpad is to remove the battery + CMOS battery and plug the power cable in, that's why I'm specifying I did that. I think the CMOS is fine, but I didn't consider it could be fucked.

>>59772978
Ah ok, that clears it up. I was mostly confused because the way you worded it made it sound like it was worth getting CCFL just for an AFFS. Makes more sense now, thanks.

>>59773061
Ah my bad, it's certainly better with the AFFS. I only meant it's worth trying to get a CCFL so you have the room to upgrade if you wish

>>59768744
>>59768766
>>59769064
>>59769077
It's me again. The ebay seller offered to knock off £10. The price I paid was £157.

Now if that deal was average, and now I need to spend another £25 getting a new lid cover and then spend time replacing that (which doesn't sound very easy), I'm probably gonna end up returning it (and being sad). On the other hand, if I got a nice deal already, then shelling out extra to get that fixed will just bring that down to an average deal, which I don't particularly mind.

What do you guys think?

sup tpg, i have a small problem and i need someone's help. i downloaded sharpkeys to remove the page up and page down keys from my x230 and i accidentally removed my qustion mark + forward dash key. could any of you PLEASE download sharpkeys and send me a screenshot of what is in there by default"question mark"
i remember there was a right control -> something in there, wich is the key i removed, if any of you could do that for me it would be geat, thx!

>>59773038
On second thoughts, it's probably just the key haha

Hadn't read the rest of your post pls forgive

>>59773147
also, that key is not the question mark + dash key, it is some sort of special key, i tried that already

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>>59773164
I forgive here have a steam key for my game for helping

QP26Y-8QFQ2-02ZYK
QP60B-F0J5B-JECWH
QPQZY-Q368A-0F2PW
QPXKR-YWZ5B-2A6E2
QQ05W-7R3DA-K6TZE
QQEHG-983PX-PN0Y3
QQL47-A0LIF-50QCB

>>59761611
What laptop are you using?

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>>59771674
Where i can find more?

>>59773194
Thank you friend! I will play this on my w520 :D

>>59773135
>What do you guys think?
no

>>59773147
anyone, please, i'm kinda desperate.

>>59773135
>>59773135
That's a pretty nang deal for uk mate

Fixing the front bezel is chill as it's just a few screws and then snap it in but you will probably need to screw down the antenna screw

>>59773287
Thing is it's the back "bezel" that needs fixing, aka, the entire back cover lid

I might just plop a small drop of superglue there for now though, because after looking again those cost like £40 which is way more than I want to spend on this after already having spent £230 with the extra ram and stuff

Thanks for the advice though.

>>59773302
Yeah sorry I'm blind

That's definitely is a potential dealbreaker effort/expense if your not that comfortable doing it

Glue is a fair choice anon

>>59773358
I'm completely inexperienced but I'd be quite comfortable learning how to do it, if the dang piece of plastic didn't cost 1/4 as much as the entire laptop.

The guy had a 6-month warranty that supposedly can let me ask him to repair it, if he gets grumpy I think I'll just take the deal and then see what I can do about it myself. Thanks for the advice man (unlike this faggot >>59773274)

>>59773404
Also the hardware manual states the part number is 04W2185 but I see a ton of listings for "X220 lid cover 04W6895", does anybody know what the deal is with that? If I do purchase one, can I safely assume it's going to be compatible, and of adequate quality?

>>59773440
Yes

>>59773484
Thank

>>59773284
>>59773147
Shameless self bump

>>59773404
No problem, getting stock parts in the uk is an absolute cunt so I feel your pain.

Easiest way is to order a cheap dead one which is generally beyond a pain in the ass.

>>59773440
And yes, both of those are actually made for the x230 but fully compatible with the x220

>>59773544
Sorry for being an idiot, but do I need to do it on a thinkpad? And do I need your exact model? Also can I do it on windows?

I have an X220 that's off right now, or if I can do it on my main computer that'd be more convenient

I have a T520 with the 1600x900 screen, its a pretty poor looking panel overall. Im seeing that newer models have FHD ips screens

Is there a way to install one or would it be too painful and require way too much hacking up?

>>59769445
Why does Shinji look so weird?

>>59773638
I think that it'd have to be on the x220. Your pc probably has an actual right control that is a ctrl key

>>59773264
>emacs
absolutely disgusting

>>59773641
Just get the 1080p display from w510/w520 and swap them out. I did that for my brother's t520

>>59773652
K give me 5

>>59773676
I'm not even sure if the x220 will work actually, but it is worth a shot. Thx for the help

I'll try the fix after I get back home

>>59773703
Right... what do I actually need to do? Sharpkeys just shows blank by default, with options to add/edit/delete mappings.

Is it because I've got Windows 10? I know sharpkeys still works for remapping with 10, but officially it isn't supported. If that's the case and I'm not just being particularly dense today, then sorry for getting your hopes up.

Are the T420 and X220 still the recommended models? Why buy the T420 over the T440?

X230/T430 users, what version of GLSL are you supporting? under fedora i'm getting 3.3, is there support for 4.0+?

>>59773813
On mine it showed this one default change, if yours doesn't have it your right control key is probably not remmaped

Took me a while to answer cuz I had no 4g while I was in the subway

>>59773840
>Why buy the T420 over the T440?
because the T440 is garbage, you literally chose the worst newer thinkpad to compare a T420 to.

T420 came today, and my old laptop hdd worked fine. Screen is shit like people say, but $100 for a working laptop is fantastic. Think the first upgrade I'll do is ram since it came with only 4gb. If I upgrade the screen what screen should I use?

>>59774532

Well give me the suss /g/. I didn't see this information on any of the guides I read. I'm going to buy a T model and an X model. Which ones should I be buying?

>>59754515
Mac OS

>>59774617
>If I upgrade the screen what screen should I use?
ahahahaha you're in for a wild ride, friend

>>59774642
how much money?

>>59774617
>and my old laptop hdd
ew

also
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one

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>>59751742
Will a backlit x230 keyboard fit on an x220?

>>59774680

I'd be chuffed to spend less than 350 on a T series model and less than 200 on a X series.

>>59774680
>ew

I had it laying around. I plan on getting an ssd.

>>59774751

that's in yuros(€).

>>59774751
get a T530 with an i7
and a X220 with a 9cell

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Why isn't the screen centered on the T61? It really ruffles my autism.

>>59774911

Fuck forgot to mention that I want a 14" T series.
Will I just go for the T430 instead?

>>59775107
>I want a 14" T series.
why

>>59774704
no

>>59775217
if an x220 keyboard will fit on an x230 with some software remapping will it not work the other way around??

>>59775205

I like 14" computers. Am I right in thinking no X series has a 1600x900 display?

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Hey guys I just upgraded to a x230, but this keyboard is lacking and I heard that you can switch/hack it for a good ole x220 keyboard. Anyone personally tried this? I am not afraid to flash bios if it's required.

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>>59775338
>I am not afraid to flash bios
don't lie

New thread:
>>59775641

>>59775246
The backlight will never work, the pin arrangement is different on an X220, this is why you have to stick a little bit of tape on the keyboard connector when you do a X220 into X230 swap - there's current on one of the pins intended for the backlight which will short out the X220 keyboard.

>>59773641
Newer models (T540 etc onwards) will use eDP panels so yes they're a pain to get working. Like >>59773661 said there were compatible panels for the T520 in its contemporaries, though you want the W520 and W530 panels. (W510 is 16:10)

>>59775248
None of the X2*0 models, you either get 1366x768 or 1920x1080 on the X240 onwards. For that exact resolution? Gen1 X1 Carbon offers it, and the X300/X301 isn't far off it.

>>59776155
w510 is 16:9

>>59776213
Fuck, you're right, sorry. I misrecalled it and then misread it with the maximum external resolution when I went to double check.