/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>modern integrated graphic is 5x faster than my quadro

Fucking kill me

>>59689979
what quadro?

>>59689979
Just replaced the keyboard on my T420s with a brand new one and god does it feel gooooooooood. Keys are so damn firm. I actually bought two to keep a spare as the day will come that I can't buy a traditional thinkpad keyboard somebody.

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Looking for a Thinkpad with a quad core CPU.

This'n is going for $310

Would upgrade the HDD to 2TB and put the OS/software on an SSD.

Worth? Or can I find better?

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>dualcore i7-3520M TDP = 35W
>quadcore i7-3612QM TDP = 35W
>both are apparently compatible for the T430

What's the catch? I checked Intel's website and it also lists the TDP as the same, so it can't be a mistake.

these threads are the equivalent of dumpster diving.

buy real machines poorfags.

>>59690374
You are way, way off

any windows application to maintain my t420's battery levels?

>>59690374
your birth was the equivalent of dumpster diving.

>>59690286
Catch is that's the lower end quad-core

I found a good deal on ebay, but it's quite strange.
Machine type number is for x230, but System-unit serial number is for x230i.

Is that fine? Model is listed as x230 i5

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What's the best OS for the X61 Tablet?
Windows 10 has great tablet support but is really slow with 2 GiB of ram.

Also I don't really want to upgrade the hardware, compatible Ram would cost more than I payed for the entire machine in mint condition, the only thing that sucks is the battery, which gives me around 40-60 minutes of use

Has anyone tried the impressively cheap aftermarket nipples that are available on ebay / aliexpress? It's like $3 for 10.

how the fuck do you replace a fan on the t43

like they sell these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T40-T41-T42-T43-T43P-CPU-FAN-Cooling-Fans-/250748530385?hash=item3a61c6eed1:m:mbsAj4s-jz2p2YnaZOk4Z_A

but how do you remove the original and attach this?

>>59690735
>Model is listed as x230 i5
you might get swindled, any screenshots to confirm that?

>>59690767
>What's the best OS for the X61 Tablet?
have you tried win7?

>>59690848
they're shit

>>59691148
you can try and yank it off but come on, a new heatsink&fan contraption is like $15

>>59691306
>you might get swindled, any screenshots to confirm that?
Bios main screen shows that cpu type is i5

>>59691306

> new
> implying it isn't some old garbage someone took off their thinkpad that has the exact same agonizing buzzing sound as my current fan

why would i want to do that

Are the heatsinks for the t430 compatible with the t420?

>>59691335
where did you get the serial number? stickers get changed, and bioses get updated all the time. probably a fluke tho.

>>59691455
>why would i want to do that
arent you doing that already?

How much does an IPS panel costs that fits into an X230 in Euros?

Does anyone know how much power the side USB ports on a T520 output? (And for comparison, the rear "powered" port?)

i have a fucking german keyboard on my x220 and i hate this layout, any of you anons know where i can buy a new one in ansi for cheap in europe?

Alright, so my T530 won't start up. Won't get into BIOS, fan doesn't spin up, nothing.
Before that happened i installed ubuntu and before starting it up for the first time i opened the laptop to check a connector.
I tried booting without the SSD in case it was ubuntu, tried doing the 30 second reset trick (and removed the RAM beforehand), tried to use AC power only.
Anyone know other solutions or is my thinkpad bricked for good ?

>>59693160
Sounds like a power problem, don't you think so?
Maybe try reseating the power board / checking if there are any components that look forked on there.

>>59693214
The weird thing is the power button is illuminated. Other than that it just won't boot.

>>59693160
>i opened the laptop to check a connector.
did you remove the battery first?

>>59693365
Still could've blown a fuse. It doesn't sound that weird to me that the power led would still be working.
Thing is, I haven't been able to find any circuit diagrams for these laptops so I couldn't tell you where the fuses are.

>>59693370
Yup, the AC connector too.

>>59693370
>>59693438
Oh wait, you reseated a connector? Then probably something went wrong there.

tfw you are trying to sell your well speced t530 on gumtree and all you get is indians calling you and lowballing, fml

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>get a good T420, everything werks
>comes with one 4gb stick of ram - the one underneath the keyboard
>buy another one, different brand, can't find another Hynix one where I live
>made sure it has literally identical specs: 4gb, 1333mhz max at 9-9-9-24, 1.5v, not ddr3L
>turn it on, everything werks, comfy amount of ram
>notice the back door where I installed the ram overheating
>cpu idle temps went up 10 degrees
>pull out the stick I bought, it's hot as fuck
>temps go back to normal

god damnit what's going on? is this normal behavior?

>>59693478
Not sure about that, i was checking the connector for the touchpad and fingerprint sensor and everything looked fine, no broken headers or anything. I suspect the BIOS got fucked from me quitting the ubuntu setup too early, i'm currently trying to remove the CMOS battery to see if that makes a difference.

>>59693845
Well let me know how that goes. Sounds improbable to me, afaik installing an os does nothing to a bios, but maybe it works.

I know today is April fools but, the IBM 2521 ThinkPad was released this month!

I found out it wasn't IBM's first tablet though. In Japan the PS/55 Note model line had a computer called the T22sx, supposedly it hand touch as well as pen touch...

Also check out this lucky bastards collection.
.https://www.flickr.com/photos/31470204@N06/2948699692/in/photostream/

>>59693504
Sell it on eBay. :P
>work at recycler
>advertise laptops & computers of all sorts
>post contains imac and macbook
>'what is the lowest you can do'
>'best price for macbook? buy all the time'
>'can i video edit with this macbook?'
>'ur price is too expensive, I will come and you give cheaper price, i buy in bulk'
I put up a scratched up 2009 13" White Macbook missing some parts/screws/charger and someone paid $150 for the damn thing shipped next day.

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>>59690767
What did you pay for it, and having 2x 2GB of RAM is well worth it. But getting 4GB RAM Modules is not... oh no.

Over the past years, I've went to Xubuntu & Win 7 back and forth. Wacom support is good still.

>>59690492
did you not get lenovo power manager? You want it to stop charging before 100%, correct?

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I have an opportunity to pick up what I believe to be pic related, a thinkpad 750c. Should I do it?

>>59690034
which manufacturer? there are 3 different ones for the same keyboard

I have an x220 and I let the battery die completely last night while it was on sleep with the lid closed. How long should it normally take to charge the battery until I can boot it up?

Whenever I try and boot the laptop with the cable plugged in the power light flickers and it doesn't turn on. I've let it sit for about 20 mins now and it still didn't boot.

>>59694870
that's no good. Try the power trick (take out power and press start button for 10s) or removing the bios battery for a couple of minutes.

>>59694972
Yeah sorry I was booting up, I drain the power by doing the power button thing and it booted right up. The battery has plenty of charge.

>>59694688
>88
Hitler says yes.

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>>59689884
Nobody answered my question in the last thread. Trying again.

>Recommended models:
>T420 - 14", normal size
>X220 - 12.5", ultraportable

How much longer will these last (not performance-wise, but before the motherboard fails)?

>>59691148
>What's the best OS for the X61 Tablet?
A few small batches of various X4x models, for god knows what reason, came from the factory with thermal epoxy holding the heatsink fan to cpu/gpu. If you have one of those, you're shit out of luck.

>>59695953
mobos shouldn't ever fail.
You will eventually need a new fan and a new keyboard, but that's about it.

>>59695976
huh, quoted wrong message, sorry...

And I mean T4x not X4x anyway.

>>59695953
the motherboard doesnt fail just like that, if you shove it around and try to hotswap ram sticks and displays then you will fry it sooner than later.

Is the t440p a good value thinkpad? I need a laptop and came across a used one

What ThinkPad should I buy if I want to continuously upgrade it? By the end I'd like a quad core Intel cpu, ssd, 16gb ram

Prefer to start out under 200

>>59695953
Integrated graphics models have more than a decade lifespan in general, My T43 worked until 2015 when I couldn't find a good fan upgrade and temps were insufficient, My T60p is still 100% functional, the hinges are just really loose. The *20 and *30 series are still really sturdy, I see no reason why they can't last until 2022 if not longer. The quad cores in the W series (and can be fit in the T series) are still really competitive.

>>59696173
Price?

>>59696198
Also if I could upgrade it to a dedicated gpu that would be great

>>59696173
They can be found at reasonable enough prices on ebay, though they're probably not better value than the previous generations unless you want something that can take a FHD screen.

>>59696212
Not from the US. But it is around 200usd

>>59696259
Go for it. Also, if you can, buy the T450 trackpad.

I have used Thinkpads for a while now and I want to try Dell next. Any recommendations? My current Thinkpad is T430 with i7 and Nvidia GPU. It has enough power to run Overwatch with low settings so I would like a similar Dell, but this time with a good IPS screen. Is there any Dells that are like T430? I'd rather not have left-aligned keyboard due to numpad, but maybe I can deal with having a numpad if there's no other choise.

>>59696307
E6440

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>>59695991
>>59696054
>>59696204
Thanks guys. I'm just worried about buying a seemingly inexpensive device that might later require expensive repairs. At the same time, I'm too poor to buy a recent laptop.

>>59696307
E5450

>>59696413
>might later require expensive repairs.
its quite the opposite really, any repairs and spare parts are cheap.

So lads I'm going to flash coreboot and get an ivy bridge chip in my t420 (for the hd4000), would it be worth upgrading the ram to dual channel as well? Would that give the igpu another boost in performance?

>>59696477
idk about dual channel but speed matters too, so it better be 1866.

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hey boys CAN ANYONE LINK ME TO AN EXTENDED CABLE FOR SALE so I can drop a x1 carbon screen in my t420 and get rid of this 768p POS

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The wiki is out of date. Anyone got an updated one of these with where the 2017 prices should be?

It shows used w520s at ~$700 but that's over twice as much as you should pay nowadays.

>>59690286
im running a 3630qm in my t430

had to upgrade to a 125w ac adapter though

>>59693839


bad dimm, or possibly a problem with northbridge.

I had a super IO chip go bad on a server motherboard which caused my memory to get super hot.

I mean it could be a lot of things..

So I bought a t420. I read the guide, and before I bought it I checked the bios and could access it, and no supervisor password was there. Now I'm not that tech-savvy, and I didn't really know what I was doing..
And now I'm afraid I fucked up: I now see that "hardware password manager" is enabled an so is "password at unattended boot" and I don't know whether intel at module should be enabled (which it is, but its not activated), computrace is disabled.
I also tried to look up the serial number but got "error no results"
Am I retarded and fucked?
Help much appreciated

Today I bought thinkpad in my dream. And it's not a joke

Should I buy the Legion Y720? Is it a good build quality?

my latitude e6400 arrived today, and got a few questions
1. high pitched noise — seems to be quite common in dells
2. hinges behave strange, its like it has two stable postitions when opened, appr 10 degrees apart
3. sim card appears to be stuck in slot and i cant eject it
please help

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>>59694688
Its 25 years since the thinkpad
im sure it'll go up in price

>>59695953
For a long fucking time
only thing killing them is water, constant overheating (literally impossible unless ur retarded) and misc damage.

Most of the RMA shit has already happened.

>>59695976
I replaced a thermal paste on my T43p
It had some odd glue shit on the GPU, but I left the shit on there and it did work for the year I used it.

>>59696413
You'd be happy with buying an expensive product needing cheap repairs?
it comes out the same

>>59697515
How about you fucking check out dankpads you fuck
>hasn't been updated in five months
let me copy and paste and say its 'updated' then

W520s can still be $600, and $700 top dollah

>>59700332
Can you boot to OS and boot to usb?
you literally have no need to worries
press F10 for defaults on bios then.

>>59701147
How about fuck off this is a ThinkPad thread, not a fucking Lenovo thread.
Might as well go on /o/ and ask about a PT Crusier in a Dodge Ram thread, you ingrate piece of shit.

The laptop suits you, because you're fucking dumb and cant read

Actually the Y720 is pretty good, its RGB LEDs aren't bright enough, the gaming sucks, and its relaly a shit computer. Buy one though. You need to get a laptop that has the brighest RGB LEDs, so you can actually say it has decent build quality for a piece of gaming trash.

I have a somewhat strange problem with my Thinkpad. On which site are you most likely to get some help? I asked on the official lenovo forum but my thread got ignored. Doubt I will get help here since it's a newer model.

>>59701567
>please help
why the fuck did you get a Dell 6400?

>>59701633
>Can you boot to OS and boot to usb?
>you literally have no need to worries
>press F10 for defaults on bios then

Thank you!

I can boot to OS and USB, just ran ubuntu from flashdrive.

Should I reset BIOS to default and is there a guide on how to set security settings, since these dont follow with loading of default?

>>59701633
Sure, thinkpad thread, but I thought some of you would know if it's good or not.

>>59701892
t/p/w/x chose your flavour.

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Ok this might sound stupid so bear with me here
I have two options, almost at the same price; the
x230 at 280 euros and x240 at 240 euros
i7 3520m vs 4600u, both have 8gigs of ram, both have extended batteries;
Is there any reason at all to not go with the x240?

Anyone here with a X220T (multitouch)?

The price seems right, I want to use it on the go to read mango and maybe shamefully watch some chinese cartoons. Does it handle 720/1080p well enough?

>>59702011
>Is there any reason at all to not go with the x240
the 3520m is slightly faster but also is a 35w part.

X240 has a better TN display, but idk if you can swap a IPS in there.

>>59702247
Oh right, the x230 I'm looking at has IPS
I read that some 230s have problems with wifi and top of the screen becoming loose or something

>>59702309
>x230 I'm looking at has IPS
I'd get the X230 then. also the X240 has 1-2 hours of extra battery life.

>>59702309
>I read that some 230s have problems with wifi and top of the screen becoming loose or something
maybe, never heard of that.

>>59702622
The ones I'm looking at seems the x230 has 1 hour more battery time from the screenshots the sellers provide.
Contacted the x230 guy, the touchpad on the 240 seems like a dealbreaker
thanks for the help

Are thinkpads generally better than Surfacebooks? It's been years since I've had a laptop and am looking to buy

>>59702645
>the touchpad on the 240 seems like a dealbreaker
I heard you can swap it with a X250 tho.
and yea forgot about that, I've been using wireless mouses since forever, I don't even know how a touchpad is supposed to feel like anymore.

>>59702645
I wouldn't be too trusting of quoted battery life, resellers won't have consistent measurements and it comes down to how worn the battery is, which can be pretty variable unless it's a refurb where you get a fresh one. The X240 will get better battery life just on the basis that it has a more efficient CPU. Also replacing the touchpad with one with proper trackpoint buttons is possible, an X250 one is ~$30 I think though you have to swap it out yourself.

Granted, they're still not equivocal in most regards, the X230 will probably be better built, while the X240 can end up better for specs on paper but you'll have to spend plenty and fuck around a bit to get to that point.

>be me, 2015, looking to replace my aging T60
>"oh the Elitebook is just as good as the Thinkpad"
>Reluctantly erase the memories of the awful HP laptop I used in high school and buy an 8470p in great shape for $250 instead of a T430
>shill Elitebooks on /g/
>after 3 months the little light breaks, cannot be pushed back in or turned off, have to tape it
>some of the scissor switches on the keyboard literally snap, keys become useless, have to replace keyboard
>after a year and a half of ownership the laptop begins overheating like a motherfucker and crashing unpredictably
>memories of Grade 10 resurface

Fuck these fucking things, and fuck those of you who convinced me they were "equivalent". I'm going to get a Thinkpad like I originally planned. Possibly skip the T430 and go right to the T450 or the X1 Carbon. The only thing I worry about is the screen, because I've heard T series screens have been absolute shit since the T410.

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>>59701633
>mfw bought a W520 with 16 gigs of RAM off eBay in December 2015 for $292 USD
>mfw this is still a decent price more than a year later

For maximum Jewing, I even took one of the 8GB modules and sold it to some pajeet on Kijiji for $30. Still using it with 8 gigs of RAM, which is more than sufficient. Fucking love this computer.

T460 or 470? It's 300€ more expensive and the 6200U to 7200U isn't really that much of an upgrade. Otherwise there's the ddr4 instead of ddr3 RAM and the USB C which I don't need. Before I buy the 460 is there anything I'm not considering?

>>59696477
Please report back on the whole procedure. I want to put a i7 3720qm in mine, but i'm too busy right now to actually do it.

>>59703960
Also on this note is T460/470 a worthy upgrade to an X220?

>>59703960
>T460
>2016
>~200 nits display

wew lad

>>59696477
well ill be damned

The coreboot works with Windows 7, 8, 10.

I have uploaded my build, if anyone want to try.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mq1e2a54vv03 ... iRE9qJbwQa

Usage instruction: https://www.coreboot.org/Board:lenovo/t420

There are several roms with different MAC addresses (gbe.bin). The reason for having different MAC addresses is if you have several laptops plugged into the same router, you need different MAC addresses.

Some features:

1. Support Sandybridge and Ivybridge CPUs (I tested i7-3xxx QM) (by changing the vgabios name code)
2. No whitelist you can use any wireless card
3. Unlock RAM speed to 1866 (due to chipset limit 1866 is the highest)
4. Works with Windows 7,8,10, linux (Seabios)
5. Works for both t420 (with/without Nvdia graphics card)
6. Updated vgabios to newest 2170 version
7. Removed useless intel management engine (AMT)(Replaced 5MB ME region with 1.5MB ME)
8. Have 10 MAC address you can choose

>http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=119498

>>59704064
>https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mq1e2a54vv03 ... iRE9qJbwQa
cool link bro

>>59704017
The 200nits is the lowest option with 1366x768 resolution. No one actually buys this except companies who don't care for eye cancer in their employees. The 1080p option gets to a solid 300nits.

>>59701748
Do you want to add a bios password?
I don't see much of security settings unless its on the OS.
If nothing is said about computrace, then you are fine.

>>59702720
Yes, because you have a wider range of products to choose from than one two in one laptop

>>59704692
lmao, how does this even hapen

>>59703990
>better processing power
>longer battery life
>IPS screen options, larger pixel count
but
>different keyboard layout
>muh indicators

>>59704064
>Thermal Management. Coreboot seems does not have native thermal management (dptf.asl) for t420. Under linux it's possible to use the thermald software to work around this. Under Windows 10, the Intel Dynamic Platform and Thermal Framework driver does not work (PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0153)
sooo no thinkpadfancontrol under windows?

>>59704784
Is this going to be resolved with the retro thinkpad or is that just a meme now

>>59703276
New thinkpads are just as bad as any other chink laptop, get a T420

Source: owner of T460 which the screen broke off

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>>59704941
I had a x220 and relatively recently switched to t450. The only con is the arrangement of buttons on a keyboard, a lot of them is missing and it looks like a mediocre laptop keyboard. But the positive thing is that the keyboard is sturdier and actually more responsive than the old one. The old one kind of bended if you pressed hard while the new one feels as glued to the fingers and doesn't flex.
The rest is the same, laptops are as tough as they used to be, I even once drunkenly managed to stand on my laptop for a minute to prove they are sturdy as hell. All the ports are there and + they now have two batteries that can last >10 hours (one inside, on outside)

T450 being shit is a meme, only the keyboard arrangement is kind of mediocre everything else is just as good or even better

Is the P50 a good deal or is it overpriced? Everything I see is at least $1,000+.

just bought an x230 i5 2.6ghz 8gb 128gb SSD for £150, did i do ok /g/?

>>59705222
I guess you did. Is it in good condition?

>>59705222
You did great, I couldn't find x230 like that for less than 300$
What's the condition ?

>>59705255
>>59705251
looks good from the pics, guess i'll see when it comes :^)

>>59705222
I just did the math and found out that this is around 170€. In that case you did really good. I got my X230 with 320GB HDD and 4GB RAM for 210€ 2 months ago. Mine was refurbished though.

When do you think they'll stop making the good ThinkPad keyboards?

so, does the Lelnovo Power Manager ever works on Windows 10 or does the fucker still causes blue screen?

>>59705523
>inb4 dude you don't need it lmao

>>59705575
but you need it to set the thresholds

>>59705621
>>59705523
There's a Lenovo Settings App you can get from the Windows store that actually replaces the old ThinkVantage tools.

>>59705655
not anymore, you need to set them from registry

>>59705359
10 years ago

Guys, I think I fried my x220 keyboard by cleaning it with 90% isopropyl alcohol. I cleaned it, plugged it in, and only the trackpoint works. Where can I find a cheap replacement keyboard? The one on Amazon is like $50.

>>59705122
The old ones were easier to service as well, but at least the new ones are not impossible to open. In my opinion the T430 struck the perfect balance, hardware buttons for volume and the old modular case. Even if the keys you use 98% of the time are better, I still get triggered whenever I go to adjust screen brightness, volume, turn WiFi off, etc.

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>>59689884
about to pull the trigger on a t430s that's hopefully gonna be useful for the next 3.5 years.
planning to upgrade the

>display to a 1080p ips one
>ssd
>maybe keyboard to a x20 one cux I prefer the layout.
>maybe a quadcore i7 in the future
>16gb of ram

anything else

also, what are the main differences between the t430 and the t430s
????

>>59706836
The main difference is that the T430s is slightly thinner and comes with less battery options so you will be stuck with batteries that limit you to 3 or 4 hours of battery life.

>>59707043
>you will be stuck with batteries that limit you to 3 or 4 hours of battery life.
and that is, when they're at 100% capacity. after two years of average wear you'll get like 90 minutes.

>>59707368
Yep. BUT the T430s got a 1080p option. The solution is obvious: Put the 1080p IPS panel from the T430s into a T430 and you got the best possible 30 series machine.

>>59707043
>>59707368
>and comes with less battery options so you will be stuck with batteries that limit you to 3 or 4 hours of battery life.

fuck I was expecting at least 6 hours.

>>59707403
Not with the s version. Nowadays it's different, the new s versions support all battery options but back in the day you could only use 3 cell batteries.

>>59707400
scrolling quickly through the wiki, IIRC, the choice of ips displays on the normal t430 is more limited due to its bigger size and it's harder to do the swap, also flickering issues.

am I wrong?

>>59707417
I have heard of the flickering issues but swapping the display isn't hard. The fact that it's slightly bigger doesn't make it any harder to maintain.

>>59707400
good luck finding a LVDS > eDP conversion board that can fit. They guy that was piecing them together doesnt do it anymore.

>>59707543
Oh shit, I forgot that LVDS doesn't even support 1080p. Well that's unfortunate.

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>>59706836
Its easier just doing a M14x swap instead, or even arguably better would be upgrading a T440s and the clickpad swap

>>59707043
Can confirm
As much as I enjoy my IPS 1080p T430s, the nine cell will give you better battery life on a T430, hell even the quad i7 W530 I had lasted longer lol.

>>59703650
specs?

>>59707619
ayo hol'up how do do I get rid of those stickers? the 'intel inside' is alright, but the windows one and the 'lenovo enhanced sexperience 2.0' look like shit. any ideas? I could scrub them off but don't want any marks left on the palmrest tho

>>59708178
after long enough time, marks from stickers are basically guaranteed and permanent. general wear from your hand *might* normalize the discoloration over the course of years. get a new palmrest off ebay if you gotta burg about it

>>59708178
The plastic underneath the stickers will show marks forever. There's no way of avoiding this.

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>>59708178
I pick on it with my finger usually or sometimes just have a razor blade, screw driver or some sort of dental poker if I feel like being a piece of shit.

Goo gone works on the glue residue, but leave a sort of shiny/slippery texture afterwards.
Once I used Goof Off Pro at the shop but it is a pretty powerful smelling chemical

However, the plastic below it may be darker than the rest of the laptop from UV light

>>59708178

remove them when the device is new, otherwise buy a *new* palm rest (warehouse stock, not taken from a used laptop)

as far as removing them goes just use a thin dull metal shim or something and remove the glue with a damp cloth

>>59708417
how's the x131e? i3 or apu?

want to get one.

>>59708395
>after long enough time, marks from stickers are basically guaranteed and permanent.
>>59708415
>The plastic underneath the stickers will show marks forever.
well fuck

>>59708395
>get a new palmrest off ebay if you gotta burg about it
>>59708425
>buy a *new* palm rest
I'm afraid I might break something during the swap

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>>59708555
I had an 1.6GHz X130e I flipped a few years back
Decent, better than my X61T in battery life, a little bit better in performance.

i3 model is surprisingly good, granted I put 6GB RAM and a spare SATA II SSD into it and it does web browsing just fine. I mostly have it as like a backup laptop that stays in my car and work. mSATA support is sweet.
There was supposedly an i5 model, but really rare to come across, the edge variant is more common and basically uses the same motherboard.
Want to get it, maybe mobo swap it?

>>59689884
Just got a R50e for free. Any ideas on which distro to install or any use for the machine?

>>59708831
try a Knoppix first see what works and what doesnt

>>59708581
>I'm afraid I might break something during the swap
you are no serious right?

>>59708695

I want to get one as a backup machine for web browsing,4chan fun posting on the bed, youtube/video watching, email reading, and maybe some typing some documents.

Main concern is battery life.

>>59708555
it's a great typewriter/browser/road warrior workstation. get the i3 if you want batterylife. i had the apu version and was very happy with the performance.

>>59707403
just get an additional ultrabay battery

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>>59709040
pls no bully

>>59709178
explain pls, as if I (((had))) learning problems.

Why should I buy a used Thinkpad over its equivalent used Latitude or Elitebook?

So I'm using a 15.6 inch ASUS laptop with an i7-6700 and a GTX960M, it's breddy gud for most things. However, there are some things that could be improved:

- Battery life: if I can't find a suitable outlet, I'm limited to about 2-3 hours even with normal loads (using an IDE/text editor and web browser).
- Weight: I don't mind carrying it around in my bag, but when sitting somewhere and I want to move over/show someone something on my screen/basically carry it around, it's rather unwieldy.
- Screen quality: the panel is a really shitty 1080p TN, I can't ever get the gamma configured right and sometimes I think it's just screwed beyond rescue. Heck, my home "gaymeer" 144Hz, 3D-compatible monitor - basically the epitome of not caring about colour quality - is better than the laptop's screen.
- Trackpad - it's not a clit mouse, what more to say. I actually find myself bringing my mouse along most of the time.

Can a thinkpad solve my problems? In particular, I'd be surprised if I could really get a good-quality display on one, but if that's possible, I'd be absolutely ecstatic.

My ideal vision:
>13-inch
>4:3
>either IPS or good quality TN
>enough processing power for intensive daily use, think full-featured IDE + browser with ~50 tabs + video chat - should all be comfortably handled at once
>optionally, decent graphics for low-tier games. Think Civilisation (V) on lowest settings, or Crusader Kings II, maybe XCOM (the 2012 one) at lowest settings. Could do without.
>several hours battery life - as a minimum, I'd like to at least be able to use it on two 2-hour lectures in one day without having to recharge it
>ability to add an SSD (and keep an HDD) would be great

Given these rather specific requirements, would a thinkpad suit me? Any pointers for specific directions to look at? They're being shilled so much here that I thought I'd give them a try, but if I need to compromise too much I'll probably hold off on getting a second laptop.

>>59709335
>Get this https://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Ultrabay-Battery-0A36310/dp/B0085MPJ3S
>insert in laptop in addition to preexisting battery
>???
>profit

I've had a T420 for about 6 months now, and am looking to upgrade.

Are there any 1080p IPS thinkpads that wont ream me up the ass with cost.

I'm not talking about modding, I mean by default.

>>59709422
thx!

>>59709382
please leave your reddit at the door when you come here

>>59709594
Ok, but can I at least keep my ShareBlue?

Thinking of getting a docking station for my T460p. Available options are the basic/pro/ultra docks. 40a(0/1/2)0090us .
https://amazon.com/Lenovo-Thinkpad-Adapter-40a00090us-Packaging/dp/B00G6T8DRQ/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

The lenovo site is crap. What are the specific differences between them? I also see a lot of warnings about defective products. How can I be sure I will get a working one?

>>59689884
What's a good model to upgrade from an X220 to.

I want FHD in a small footprint, I was thinking T series but I'd prefer an already built FHD or a real easy upgrade

I could spend upward of $800 all together with all upgrades but obviously I'd prefer less

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>>59709519
Just get the W520 and embrace it.

>>59710208
X250

>>59708695
>>59709067
so which is faster?
the intel version or the amd?

Can I replace a stock non-backlit screen with a backlit one?

So I really wanna get a msata drive for my T420 but I heard these fuckers run pretty hot, is that true?

if I'm gonna install some meme distro on it and use it like once a week, the rest of the time when it stays disabled in Windows does it still get hot?

thanks.

What should I get: X220 or T420

I intend to use this machine on the go occasionally, but mainly
as another computer to the side of my desktop to browse the web,
and as a in-bed machine. I already have a quite beefy desktop.

I like how small and light the x220 is, but don't like that the msata is limited to sata 2 (would like to have 2 drives) and no ultrabay.
I don't like how heavy the T420 is.

What's your opinion /g/?

>>59711242
>reddit spacing

>>59711242
Not in my experience. I cloned my entire 2.5inch drive onto an msata drive in my t530. I immediately went to pull it out after the clone had finished and it wasn't hot at all. Warm at best.

>>59711376
>I like how small and light the x220 is, but don't like that the msata is limited to sata 2 (would like to have 2 drives) and no ultrabay.
As far as I know, the Msata in the T420 is also limited to Sata2

>>59711477
Yeah, but I can put a drive in the ultrabay and have two sata 3 drives.

>>59711376
You won't even notice it's a sata II

>>59711503
>won't notice it's a sata 2
>ssd

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>>59711516

Broblem?

>>59711503
can confirm unless you are doing heavy read and write cycles you wont notice the difference

>>59711458
Oh okay, nice to hear that, I was worried about placing a hot part near another really warm part (ram)

>>59711516
nigger you won't notice that shit unless you're copying large files 24/7. random 4k reads and access times aka what matters 99% of the time, are literally the same.

The x230t (tablet) is my baby.

A dual-core i5 (two cores, but damn fast cores), 16gb of ram and two SSDs; 256 main Win8.1, 64gb Remix OS. The ultraBase adds a third SSD that I run Windows 10 insider builds on for testing at work. The only problem I have with the thing is that the sound sucks mega cocks. Tiny little paper cones? Really, Lenovo?

I swapped the speakers out with Galaxy S5 speakers, and run Equalizer APO with heavy bias on the lows and get decent sound, though.

Just my two cents ya cuckz.

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>>59711901
>and run Equalizer APO with heavy bias on the lows

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PANIC.

MY X230 CUT OFF RANDOMLY, IT WONT BOOT BACK UP. I WAS RUNNING LXLE.

WHAT DO?

>>59711901
>**30 series chink shit
>Remix OS botnet chink android os on a laptop
>Winblows 10 botnet
>using cucks unironically (and with a l33tspeak z)
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1491186162662.webm

>>59712032
Get a x220 and learn to never buy chinkshit (AKA every Thinkpad model after the **20 series).

Or hang yourself, its your choice.

>>59712032
Update:

Battery had died and I was hooking up a charger not plugged into the wall.

Disregard >>59712076, x230 is still top tier ultraportable.

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I inherited a t60 and was thinking about getting a dock for it. Ebay has a bunch of listings for the official mini dock, but a lot of them don't come with an AC adapter. Is the adapter different from the one that comes with the laptop?

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>>59712131
>x230 is still top tier ultraportable.

>>59712169
Probably not. The Advanced Dock takes a generic three-prong laptop plug, but that's because it has an internal PSU. The smaller docks should just use the same plug as the Thinkpad itself, though you might need a 90W adapter if you only have a 65W one.

>>59712245
That sounds about right. Thanks.

is there any method of getting that chemical smell minimized?

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Any X1fags here? I would've gotten an x220 but my parents wanted to get me a laptop as a graduation present so I figured I'd get a new machine. The thing is light as fuck and I guess is the antithesis of the thinkpad ethos but I love it. The display is gorgeous and they keyboard feels so nice to type on. My only complaint is the battery life which I get about 3.5 hours out of.

>>59713263
should have gotten a T460

I have an old Thinkpad t42 that still runs xp. What can I do with it to get more life out of it.?

Any x270 owners here? I'm thinking about picking one up and I'm wondering if I should go for the SATA or PCIe version. Also, how is the touchpad? I'm coming from a Macbook Pro, so I'd like to know if it has the Precision touchpad that's supposed to be great as far as two finger scrolling, etc

>>59713263
Which gen X1C is this?

do modified bios have different battery life than stock bios??

I noticed on stock 1.43 i was getting around 11 hours with TLP on my x220. After I flashed custom 1.43 bios I'm getting only 6-7 hours.

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look at this RAM module. Fuck!
Any recommendations?

>>59713263

What the fuck, 24hr battery life should be the norm by now.

I get 8-10hrs on my x220 with a 9cell

>>59711376
>portable

x220.

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>bought an X220 without a screen (and half the other parts)
>bought a "brand new" screen off ebay
>arrives late, turns out it was addressed to "[suburb] [postcode]" with no mention of a street or house number
>this "new" screen is covered in a shit ton of minor scratches and what look like a few flecks of glue or something, that anyone in their right mind is going to notice
How do these people even function? Hopefully I'll get a partial refund so at the very least it'll mean the cost of this X220 altogether is comfortably under $100.

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Behold!

>>59715724
Are you sure it's not a protective film on it? I thought I got a scratched up one myself since it didn't really look like there was one on there

what's the modern equivalent of the blocky comfy build quality of old thinkpads? what happens when my old t410 already has an ssd (in the mail) and another 4 gigs of ram? where do i go from there? do i just use it for ten years because fuck new bullshit?

>>59715866
Nope, double checked and there's definitely nothing. Hell, an average screen protector would probably have visible tearing given some of the scratches on this thing.

>>59715905
The P50 is probably your best bet if you want a modern thinkpad that doesn't try too hard to be thin.

>what happens when my old t410 already has an ssd (in the mail) and another 4 gigs of ram? where do i go from there?
You start buying shit ones and flipping them for next to no profit. Or you just hoard them. Or you find something better to obsess over than laptops that are just meant to be utilitarian anyway.

Getting an ebay thinkpad today from the post office, is there a checklist of things I should check

>>59713032
paint thinner

>>59714613
Swap it for a 8gb ddr3l

>>59689884
>Mfw x230 with 1440p screen
>Only ship in China
>How come no one in our country made this types of mods

>>59716676
-doesnt have an unlocked bios, and you can flip any bios switch you want
-keyboard works
-usb ports
-display doesn't flicker, doesn't have white spots/scratches
-working fan
-smells like a thinkpad
-wifi works

>>59716859
Why are white spots so common on thinkpads?

>>59717070
idk but besides shit display quality and shitty cleaning methods another possible scenario might be

>wow these thinkpads are very tough, magnesium and shit
>let's stack them in groups of 50 on top of each other
>lid slightly presses against the display, or display slightly presses against the keyboard, for as long as they're in storage
>white spots happen

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Dualboot on a x220, right or wrong?

>>59716694
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233595
Would this be ok? anything I should be aware of before purchasing a module?

>>59717748
sure, you can also look for PC3L 12800

or get another identical module like
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hynix-4GB-DDR3-1333Mhz-2RX8-PC3-10600-204pin-NON-ECC-SODIMM-Laptop-Memory-B137/351715497688
and use it with your old one

>>59717738
Do you want two operating systems on the same computer? Yes? Dualboot. No? Don't Dualboot.

>>59717912
I just want to avoid using the old one as it clocks down to 667Mhz

>>59717738
yes, msata+sata

>>59718043
>it clocks down to 667Mhz
no it doesn't, speccy is shit, it runs at 1333.

>>59714469
It's a 4th gen. Apparently the 5th gen has shitty build quality so I'd be aware of that if you're in the market.

>>59718120
ok anon! thank you for your tips

>>59718140
5th gen is this year's generation, right? In that case, I can confirm. They're terrible. You would think that on a laptop that thin there wouldn't be any room for the keyboard to flex...

is 259,00 € a good price for a x230 with an i5 2.6GHz, 8GB, 128GB SSD ?

>>59718016
I mean dualboot as in Grub managing a Seven install and a penguin install, Ubuntu I guess.

>>59718238
if it's in good condition then yes, almost.

daily remindert that windows 10 runs smooth on a x220.

Have any fag an a31?

>>59718503
Post cpu temp and fan speed while watching a youtube video.

Protip: you won't.

>>59689884
I'm torn between T460 and X260/X250. Halp /g/

Does 1080p resolution work better on the 12.5 or do I need a 14 inch to take advantage?

>>59718699
why does it matter. everyone knows its a 35watt M processor

>>59718748
>why does it matter.

kek, why does temperature and noise matter as long as it runs smooth™ am I right?

>>59718699
>>59718908
not the same anon but I see you had problems with Windows 10.
YouTube videos by default use VP9 codec, which only Skylake, Polaris and 2nd gen Maxwell or better can decode, anything older is done by the CPU. Have you tried using h264fy so that YouTube uses h264 instead?

>desktop basically on all day
>thinking about buying a cheap laptop for basic needs to save energy for maximum overjew

I pretty much just browse internet all day,
would it be pratical to get a laptop for general purposes or the saving is negligible?

my enter key was broke so i took it out but now i cant put bak the fucking scissor switch...... x220


help please

>>59719778
so.....
I'm in the right place?

>>59718716
If it's a shitposting machine then go X260
If work then go T460, seriously I have an X220 while it's a cute maximum comfy shitposting machine, when I'm working I'd love to have a bigger screen and resolution.

The only thing easing my buyer's remose is that T420 screen is crap

>>59719809
nevermind that, I thought I was in /dpt/

i just bought an X220... what should i do with it

Anybody know when the knew P51 will be out?

>>59719875
>>59719838
You shouldn'[t fucking break your enter key you retrarded nigger piece of jew

>>59719875
install Gentoo watch Hentai and learn C

>>59719953
Sounds like the first three chapters of the book "How to fuck up your life"

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>>59720011

>>59718908
>buy a 200 usd laptop from 7 years ago >compare it with current gen hardware

are you dumb?

What price should I expect to pay for an X240 with a 1080p screen? All other things aside.

>>59720240
>compare it with current gen hardware
calm down sir, I'm comparing runing the same trivial tasks in win10 vs other operating systems.

>>59720301
why dont you post in the windows10 thread instead of shitting on the hardware here

>>59720520
>shitting on the hardware here
I'm not sir, I'm just saying Win10 is not quite a fortunate choice as an operating system for a X220. the hardware is fine.

>>59718699
i already did that but you refused to stop memeing and i won't tell you again that this is a business notebook wich i use for office appliacations and webbrowsing.

I'm going to get a t460 but I want to upgrade the RAM from 8 to 16 gb. I can do it with the order, it'll cost 30-40$ or something. However is there a benefit to doing it myself instead, and installing 2 x 8GB RAM rather than get one with 1 x 16 GB?

>>59717738
Right

>>59721471
>i already did that
False, you did not post fan speed and cpu temp while playing a youtube video.

whats the fastest distro for a x220? so far i had the best performance on fedora. i was trying out freebsd but that shit is a joke.

>>59701635
You could always try /r/thinkpad

What's this meme I keep seeing about **30 and higher models being chink shit or whatever? I'm thinking of getting an X-series - is there any merit (besides price) to getting an X220 as opposed to a newer one?

Speaking of, can I actually run a modern web browser and watch 1080p videos with its processor? I don't need to do particularly intensive shit, and I understand it's a 6 year old laptop with a focus on portability, but I'd rather avoid having to keep the limits of my CPU in mind all the time whenever I'm doing anything in my day-to-day usage.

>>59722136
it should be more than fine for this.

>>59689884
Are the new style keyboards like on the x230 really shit compared to the good old ones?

>>59722362
230 is the same as 220

>>59722136
Yes 220 has sandy Bridge processor. Basically the same as today but less efficient

>>59722471
No. X230 has the that Chiclets style keyboard.

What price should I expect to pay for an X240 with a 1080p screen? All other things aside.

>>59706836
GODDAMN CAMILLE !! Miss that motherfucker.

>>59721905
pls respond

How is the X220 if your main use case is editing text? I use emacs with no toolbars or anything, so I can use the whole screen for the text editor. I'm used to 1366x768.

Otherwise I might watch YouTube videos and play some roguelike games. I plan on using Gentoo.

>>59723056
I used that exact setup professionally for a few years. Works all right. But if you come from a higher resolution it will feel like looking through a screen door.

How well does windows 7 run on an elite book 2560P? as soon as i got it I switched over to ubuntu but I need windows software atm.

>>59722136
you can buy whatever new chink stuff you want, just don't expect X220 levels of durability and serviceability.

>>59723205
Alright. Seems like exactly what I need then - durable, portable, great battery life, just enough processing power for what I want to do.

One last question though - is it possible to replace the screen with a FHD one? The 1366x768 resolution is really the only thing preventing it from being perfect for me.

https://youtu.be/TR3Vdo5etCQ

Fresh OS install, setting up uMatrix. Ignore this post.

>>59721905
The benefit of 2x8GB would be dual channel. RAM would be faster. But today's RAM is fast anyways. Go for the 1x16GB option and if you one day feel the need put in another 16GB module.

>>59722787
2x8 gives you more memory bandwidth and gpu bandwidth according to meme benchmarks but with 1x16 you still have one slot left for adding 1x16 later for maximum 32gb memeing.

>>59717738
No, set up a qemu virtual machine with kvm.
You'll thank me later.

>>59723266
>One last question though - is it possible to replace the screen with a FHD one?
I dont think you can do that but there's a IPS one available. if you really really need FHD you're better off with a T530/T520

>>59723368
Too big

I already have a 15.6 inch gaymeeng laptop, I'm specifically looking for something small and portable.

I'll just settle for the smaller resolution then. I can pretend it gives me longer battery life to fight off buyer's remorse later. Though you say this as if I'll have to buy the IPS screen separately - is it particularly uncommon on used units?

>>59689884
libreboot is working on a port for the X220, finally :D
https://libreboot.org/

>>59723459
>is it particularly uncommon on used units?
not quite. or you can look into X220t, all of them have IPS panels.

>>59723266
There is no practical way of getting a 1080p screen on older X series laptops. The display connector they use for the internal screen is LVSD which only supports up to 1600x900 (I think) so the only way to connect a 1080p display would be major modifications to use the built in DisplayPort for that. I think it has been done but it's complicated.

>>59723512
does degenerate/sick/subhumanboot work with hackintosh?

>>59723535
What does the 't' do? The buyer's guide has info on the i and s suffixes but doesn't say anything about t.
I'll look into it though.

>>59723593
Maybe a fun project for later, thanks for the info.

>>59723689
X2**t are convertible laptops

>>59723689
I'm a nigger, I they're the tablets right?

I'll look into them - but are they as durable as the normal ones? I'd rather have a solid laptop (possibly with a screen I replaced myself) than a meme tablet whose hinge will break or touchscreen will die or something.

>>59723763
They meet the same specifications as the normal laptops do with one exception. The tablet versions have only one hinge in the center of the screen that lets the whole lid rotate. That hinge is not quite as durable as the hinges on the regular laptops are.

>>59723763
ofcourse a regular X220 is better if you cant see yourself using a convertible, I was merely pointing out their existence in case you ever feel the need to draw well endowed anthropomorphic anime characters and you don't own the necessary hardware.

>>59723823
As I thought, thanks.

>>59723856
Ye well a touchscreen is nice, I can see myself using it, it's just not a priority for me.

Thanks for the info guys

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>>59689884
This is what peak performance looks like.

What DDR3 SODIMMs does /tpg/ recommend? Just need a pair of cheap 4GBs.

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Hi.

Dealing with a breakup. Planning a single backpack trip to Europe in a bit, but I'll need a lightweight system to stay connected and keep backups of photos and stuff. Not really gaming but just keeping in touch and knowing my system is secure.

Location: Canada
- Lightweight is key
- Minimum 14" screen size
- i-series minimum
- If possible, max 16GB installable would be really nice
- If possible, dedi GPU within the system, otherwise Intel is fine.

Budget max 350-450 probably.

Will be using GNU/Linux.

My other consideration is a chromebook and installing Linux, if anyone has any recommendations for that, let me know thanks.

>>59723965
Is that a fucking 12-inch desktop monitor or something

>>59723965
how did you connect the keyboard? hole in the desk?

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>>59724003
Personally I'd just say anything affordable that isn't shit/chinky.

>>59724003
any 12800 pc3l

>>59724018
T440s

>>59724121
Good god that's heavy. 3lbs is like half of my current, but still feels way too heavy for a carry-on backpack. Anything lighter?

>>59724137
Not in the 14" sector except maybe the X1 Carbon which is utter shit. But seriously, 3lbs is super light for a well made laptop. I'd stay away from the 40 series though. Get a T450.

my x220t is making a wierd rattling noise from the fan, but only sometimes
I think there's a wire stuck or something, it only happens when I set it down hard

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>>59724163
Fair enough. I was considering the X1 Carbon, what makes it shitty? Also, what's good about the T450, I can't find a page on Thinkwiki unfortunately. Do you have any personal experience using one?

>>59724035
Bluetooth mod.

>>59724030
18.5".

>>59724190
The battery on the X1C is not switchable (technically it is but it involves opening up the laptop) and the build quality is complete crap. It's got a lot of keyboard flex which isn't as prominent in the T or X series. Concerning the T450, it's just worlds ahead of the T440 in terms of build quality. The 40 series is known as one of the worst Lenovo has ever produced so stay away from these if possible. Also the T series is closer to what you're looking for when it comes to performance because the X1C doesn't pack a dGPU.

>>59720261
Someone please reply to me. I've been posting this in like the last 3 generals.

>>59724233
Thanks for the info. The T4xx series look like the best sorta set for me in terms of price and performance. I'm gonna keep an eye out for some good deals, otherwise I can get a T420 for about 280$CAD, which is CHEAPER than a fucking X220.

How hard is it to
a) add an mSATA (possibly removing whatever 4G crap is in there) and
b) add a second stick of RAM

On an x220?

>>59724233
>Concerning the T450, it's just worlds ahead of the T440 in terms of build quality.
true, but a good T450 is over $500 tho

>>59724250
350

>>59724258
T420 and T430 are valid options too of course.

>>59724258
If you're getting an older one like 20 or 30 series be aware of the screen. A lot of used ones come with 1366x768 TN panels. Pure eye cancer. Try to get the 1600x900 option.

>>59724289
Yup, local store is selling one for 900$...

>>59724345
http://infotechcomputers.ca/product/lenovo-thinkpad-t420s/

Seem good? Looks beefy. Doesn't match everything but 8GB of RAM is nice.

>>59724405
No no no no. Don't get one with the s addition in the name. These are a little bit thinner than the regular versions but the battery options are limited to 3 cell so with a new battery you get 4 hours of battery life at best.

>>59724405
get this one

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=710_374&item_id=089975

1. Will an xx20 series Thinkpad enable dual channel with mismatched RAM (different timings)

2. Can you edit ram timings with the Lenovo BIOS? Coreboot?

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Are these good prices for thinkpads?
http://stores.ebay.com/StariaInc

>>59723965
>>>59689884 (OP)
>This is what peak performance looks like.
Lol unity

>>59724284
>How hard is it to
>a) add an mSATA (possibly removing whatever 4G crap is in there) and
>b) add a second stick of RAM
>On an x220?
Piss easy will probably take you 10 minutes at best. That being said be careful with adding the msata SSD and or removing the 4g card. The screws there strip extremely easily. Make sure you use the appropriate size Phillips head and be careful.

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Will the 1600x900 HD+ on the T430 be an night and day difference from the shitty 1366x768 TN panel on the T420?

Really considering just saying fuck it and dropping the $250 on a T430, pic related illustrates just how cramped it feels

>>59726051
>night and day difference
ofcourse, you will see 5 more lines of code

>>59726418
Not sure if you're being facetious but 5 lines is actually a lot, especially with more horizontal space so that bleedover is less common

>>59726051
No, but if you do the X1 carbon display mod it will be.

>>59726581
In that case, might it just be better to buy a used X1 and throw the SSD from my T420 in it?

>>59726616
No, the post **20 series thinkpads have dropped extremely in quality
to the point that they should no longer be called thinkpads.
I am saddened by the amount of gook shillposters lenovo sends
to these threads to convice people to get scammed out of their money
by buying new thinkpads.

I fell for the nu-thinkpad meme and I got what I deserved. I dropped my T460
from waist height, and the screen completely broke off, the case cracked apart,
and the battery wont stay in place anymore. The nu-thinkpads are no better than
any other chink laptop they sell to dumbfuck consumers.

Do the X1 carbon display mod, it'll be more than worth it.

>>59726616
no, get a W520 with a 1920x1080 screen, that's a night and day difference.

>>59725733
anyone know if the prices for these x220 tablets are ok?

>>59726778
Gotcha, so I think I'll avoid the X1 carbon and just go with the T430 then.
>>59726791
>15.6 inches
Thanks for the recommendation, but that's honestly not all that viable for a laptop I'm going to carry around on my back all the time.

How many thinkpad users actually use their tracpoint if they have a model with a touchpad?

>>59726811
100%

>>59726855
78%

>>59726855
I'd wager to say all of them, once you get used to the trackpoint you realize that pretty much all non-macbook touchpads are shit.

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>>59726855
disable touchpad for typing.
use trackpoint while fingers on keys

>>59726827
>that's honestly not all that viable for a laptop I'm going to carry around on my back all the time.
I went through university with a bulky 15" and you'll get used to it pretty quickly, though I can't blame you for not wanting to try.

I don't see why you'd want to upgrade to a T430 though, it's basically a T420 with a different CPU. If you want something thin, get an X220 or X230. If you want a good resolution, just swap in a new screen. If you want both in the same laptop, you'll probably be better off looking at newer models.

If a significant number of people in these threads buy, sell, and refurbish used thinkpads, wouldn't it make sense for them to interact commercially with one another?

>>59727111
The one I pulled the trigger on has an NVIDIA card with 1GB VRAM, on top of the more up to date processor and better screen.

The jump in processor, resolution, and graphics card (for potential openGL programming) are worth the $250 to me, not to mention that I can't reasonably drop more than that on a laptop right now.

is the screen on a T520 going to satisfy my older mother? she just does basic internet browsing, emails, and office work on it.

>>59726051
fix your font spacing it's disgusting

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>>59723965
nah

a+ T430 - $140
3320m
5400m
8gb
180gb ssd
1600x900
bluetooth
ultimate 6300
extended battery
backlit keyboard

upgrades so far
3630qm - $100
16gb ram - $50
1tb sshd - $65
second hdd caddy - $10
125w ac adapter - $25

over the course of four months. couldnt have done better