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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.

If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

For sub-$50 headphones and IEMs, check out infographic in >>>/g/csg

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous thread: >>59555009
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>>59567545
Pls respond
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>>59567562
good for mmusic?
https://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-ATH-M40x-Professional-Monitor-Headphones
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My earphones (SE215) were stolen from the yesterday. Feels bad

>Budget
$100
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop, phone
>Type
IEM
>Comfort
Yes
>Signature
Neutral - bassy
>Past
Shure SE215 (rip), Beyermeme DT 770 80 ohm
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Posted last thread
>Budget
About $200
>Location
Australia
>Source
An O2 headphone amp mostly but also phone and record player sometimes.
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
No strong preference
>Comfort level
Comfort would be good as I wear them a lot
>Sound signature
No particular preferences
>Past headphones
Been using a pair of AD700 for the past 5 or so years.
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>>59567742

HD 598 user + Ausfag here, best cans I've ever owned under $250. I don't think they sell the cream/brown ones any more but here's the SE http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sennheiser-HD598-HD-598-SE-Special-Edition-Over-Ear-Audiophile-Headphones-BLK-/142168272927?hash=item2119e3b01f:g:a~QAAOSw44BYGcTJ

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Sennheiser-HD598-HD-598-SE-Special-Edition-Over-Ear-Audiophile-Headphones-BLK-/142168272927?hash=item2119e3b01f:g:a~QAAOSw44BYGcTJ
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>>59567784
To add to this, they are THE MOST comfortable headphones I've ever worn, might get a little warm if you live in QLD in summer though
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>>59567562 >>59567784

Massdrop AKG 7XX ($200) or Sennheiser 598's($160)?
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>>59567807
7XX if you're willing to get an amp 598 if you're not.
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>>59567807
Fuck I am an idiot, these will be used for 80% gaming 20% Music
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>>59567816
Will the 7XX sound more immersive in games than the 598?
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>>59567816
598 needs an amp too imo, they're 50Ohm
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>>59567821
Overall the K7XX is the better headphone, expect a month or so for it to arrive though...

Not to mention, while the pads are the greatest thing in existence, the cups are way too big; and don't really have that "snug fit" that you'd find with other products (ie 598)
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>>59567696
Yes. If you're using them for home use, you're looking at the wrong phones. HM5/XPT100 for Home and Status CB1/Somic MM185 for travel.
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>same shitty poorfag recommendations

No one here has money?
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>>59567706
More 215's or GR07
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Sennheiser blows. Don't fall for the MEME.
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>>59567920
Sure. Should having money somehow reflect how much you spend on headphones?
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>>59568122
Of course. Most people here are limited by their budget. If you had tens of thousands of dollars sitting around and you wanted premium quality audio you probably wouldn't mind dropping a grand or two on premium headphones.
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>>59568141
If I had a million to spend on audio I still wouldn't get any other pair of headphones than what I have now. Reason: there is nothing better in my mind. I don't see any interesting models in the multi-thousand dollar price bracket. All junk, different sound signatures for "taste" and bunch of esoteric designer products. The new Orpheus would be fun to own as a collector's piece but that's about it.

Different story for loudspeakers and many other electronics.
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>>59568171
Maybe not multi-thousand but people in these threads rarely have a budget of over $300. Most of the discussions revolve around shitty budget headphones.
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>>59568193
Anyone with half a brain wouldn't be blinded by the price tag slapped onto a product if they wanted quality. Having no budget shouldn't mean you'll only be looking at options in price ranges beyond what is generally discussed here. The correlation between price and performance is nonexistent. You'll have more options but it doesn't automatically mean you'll get a better product.
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What are better the HE-350 or HD598?
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>>59567706
Same situation, my Shure se 215 got stolen, I'm looking for something as good or better.

>Location
Pizza, mafia, Italy
>Budget
around 100$ (or around 100€)
>Type/comfort
IEMs, as comfy as those beautiful se215 with foam tips
>Source
Laptop, phone, hi-fi turntable.
>Signature
Neutral, a bit bassy
>Previous
Shure se215, Bose soundtrue in ear.
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>>59568267
I'm not disagreeing with you. It's just that most people here have the budget they do because they simply don't have more to spend on better, more expensive headphones. That's the reason they have a price tag limit.

If everyone here had a $100k salary no one would be discussing budget headphones.
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is the monoprice desktop dac/amp good enough for K701? I heard they are hard to drive.
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>>59568271
598 because its not hifiman lol
though HE350's have modding potential
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>>59567816
>>59567828
>>59567869
Thank you guys
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>>59567828
>598 needs an amp too imo, they're 50Ohm
Are you baiting or what?
Impedance alone means nothing in relation to necessity of a dedicated amp.
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>one side of the headphone needs to be extend by one additional notch for a good fit
>my autism doesn't allow me and needs to be extended by equal notches on both sides
ree
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Any good reviews of the Aeon out yet?
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Reposting problem since can't find solution

>got Fulla 2 this week
>have windows 7 and 10 on dual boot
>Fulla 2 freezes audio every few seconds for some reason
>sometimes just cuts the sound off entirely
>device is still connected the whole time when this happens and I have unplug the Fulla 2 and plug it back in to get it back for it to mess up again
>works perfectly fine on Windows 10, not even a hiccup

I also noticed that Windows 10 calls the sound device "USB Audio Device" while Windows 7 calls it "I'm Fulla Schiit" like it's supposed to say. A bit of a weird problem.
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>>59568519
Low impedance implies a higher current draw and hence more stress on the amplifier though. Not agreeing with him in saying the 598 need it though as their voltage sensitivity is rather high.
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So now what you thinking about WS1100is?
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I forgot to ask but do I need an AMP for the AKG 7XX and if so what a good (cheap sub $60) to run them? Or am I good with my HT Omega Striker soundcard?
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01KB9K9Z0/?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=xm2&ascsubtag=WC25174&th=1

Any good?
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Yo, I'm looking to pick up some Beyerdynamic DT 770s for on-the-go with a FiiO X1 and for being a consolefag at home. Should I be aiming for the 32 or 80 Ohms?

Does anyone have any experience with the Antlion clip-on boom mics? Shit looks good. Specifically, https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00R98JVVU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2BOV95VKKABAL&coliid=I15OXICGN9ALK2&psc=1

Cheers.
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>>59569150
Side question, is there any difference between the DT 770 Pro 80 Ohms and the DT 770 M? The M is supposedly 80 Ohms as well and I don't see any differences between them,
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>budget
€100-€200
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
My PC and my phone (I might be willing to buy a DAC/AMP if it's really necessary)
>Type
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open preferred
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy, I'm going to be using them for prolonged gaming and music listening on the go and at my PC.
>Sound signature
Nothing specific
>Past headphones
I fell for the gaming headset meme. I have a cloud II now.
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>>59567917
broken link.

You deleted too much, anon.
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>>59568684
left you sth @ old thread.
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>>59569347
You're pretty much describing the sennheiser hd598se / hd599 in your request.
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>>59569473
598 isn't available here for some reason (only 1 reseller sells it at an unreasonable price for the brown/white variant) and the 599 is beyond my budget
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>>59569607
You're in netherlands; What's stopping you from using amazon? There's plenty of amazons in europe to choose from.
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Would it be better to have a switch to change audio inputs going into an amp or an amp that can switch audio inputs?
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>>59569640
Amazon doesn't use paypal nor Ideal. Dutch people don't have credit cards.
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>>59569607
This basically
>>59569646
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>>59569679
Meant for
>>59569640
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>>59569607
>>59569646
wtf. Live and learn.

Well, no clue then. There are other "neutral-ish with exaggerated soundstage" options, but none of them holds a candle to 598/599 in comfort.
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>>59569646
>Dutch people don't have credit cards.
why?
and in my country I can get debit card which I can use to buy shit online
it's not a credit card but works like one
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>>59569874
What do you use to buy stuff from the albert hein or whatever? What kind of card is it? I know my debit card wouldn't work in some when I visited there recently?
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>>59567562
Which one from these 2 is the better one?
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>>59570301
I'm sorry if the pic is turned. I have no idea why. I uploaded it straight.
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>>59570301
>>59570314
>Both shitty on ears
dont
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Philips SHP9500S, thoughts?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190
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>>59567807
Decent entry level open headphones.
Bright sound, pretty comfy stock, detachable cable is nice.
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>>59570524
great for the price
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Good morning /hpg/.

>>59568378
>is the monoprice desktop dac/amp good enough for K701?
Yes.

>>59568893
Check above. I remember seeing them on eBay for ~$60 (USD), a couple of weeks ago.

>Or am I good with my HT Omega Striker soundcard?
You may be fine, best bet would probably be to try the headphones connected to your soundcard first, before making a decision to purchase an external dac/amp. The sound card may be able to provide a decent amount of power, but if you end up constantly finding yourself near or at 100% for your preferred listening level, I'd recommend and external dac/amp (with more power than your sound card). It's always nice to have a bit more power for things like very dynamic music, which may be a tad on the quiet side.

I'd also recommend one if you're experiencing any interference/humming/noises/etc when the headphones are plugged directly into the computer.
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So this knife arrived. It's either a pretty good knock-off, or a stolen factory second. It has the branding and stamps of CRKT, but can't tell whether they're authentic, i have no reference of this model. Build is surprisingly good, this thing is H-E-A-V-Y - and dented a lot near the handle edges. Flicking it back and forth loosens the pivotscrew a ton, so probably not suitable for edcing, besides the mechanism that is a true finger killer.
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>>59571538
>>>/k/33388163
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>>59571538
Nice knife. Intend to cut your ears to hit your headphones better?

I suggest you get yourself some HD598/599 instead. They're comfortable AF.
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>>59570342
Are you sure? I mean it's Sony. So it gotta be good right?

Also I need more opinions.
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>>59571448
Good afternoon
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>>59571628
>I mean it's Sony. So it gotta be good right?
Read what you wrote a few times. Let it sink in.
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>>59571628
>it's Sony. So it gotta be good right?
I'm so sorry anon
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>>59571448
Thanks! I saw the fiio 10 on amazon. Ill look on ebay, never thought about that
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>>59569165
770M has different pads and way better isolation.
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>>59570524
Garbage. Bass heavy and horrible treble. Stay away.
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>>59572728
>bass heavy
are you stoned?
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>>59572728
>bass heavy
lol

It is grainy as shit though.
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>Budget
130~ euros
>Location
Denmark
>Source
PC, phone
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
either is fine
>Comfort level
Good comfort, will probably wear for long periods of time daily.
>Sound signature
no preference
>Past headphones
MDR-7506 and shitty gaming headsets

alternatively I can buy headphones from some German stores like thomann

>>59567920
is 100-200 euros really poorfag tier? it seems like a reasonable amount for a pair of headphones to me
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>>59572835
No, it's not. He's just salty that he fell for the HD600 meme when better headphones exist in the $100-200 price point.
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>>59572892
Different anon, but HD600 is pretty good.

Especially if you're an idolfag.

It's still poorfag however... but it'll have to do until I have enough of a budget I can just blow some on the HD800S.
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>>59570524

waste of money. even chinkshit at $45 is a better deal.
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>>59572924
Nah, it isn't. It's incredibly mediocre for the price.
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>>59570128
Bank card
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>>59572926
Having tried some chinkshit for $45, I can't agree.
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>>59573066
you ob haven't tried better chinkshit. SHP9500S is ear cancer.
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>>59572946
What do you suggest, similarly priced, where idolfag stuff sounds better? Particularly their voices.
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>Stay over the week end at sister-in-law's
>Her BF has a pair of Sennheiser HD650
>Bring in both my Beyerdynamic (770 and 880) for listening comparison


Oh my fucking God, the memes are true. I listened to this 300$+ headphone and holy crap they're the ugliest sounding, most overpriced piece of shit I've ever put on my ears.
>THAT.FUCKING.WOBBLY.EXAGGERATED.NIGGERBASS
>THAT.FUCKING.VEIL
>THAT.CHEAP.FUCKING.PLASTIC
>THAT.FUCKING.LACK.OF.COMFORT

Who the fuck would buy this shit? The only thing they've got going for them is their admittedly good sound stage (as least as good as my DT 880's) but holy mother fucking crap do they suck gargantuan nigger cocks. Fuck this shit. Fuck Veilheiser.
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>>59573083
I had the Takstar 2050.
Bass was better, but the highs were meh and the mids too recessed.

What chinkshit should I try next that's better?
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New job, more money, yadda yadda. Right now I have a schiit stack uber and a 2 year old pair of K7XX. Would grabbing a pair of Massdrop x Fostex TH-X00 Ebony Headphones be a good upgrade? Mainly into hip hop and black metal.
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>>59573194
I suggest not listening to fucking garbage.
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>>59572835
>is 100-200 euros really poorfag tier? it seems like a reasonable amount for a pair of headphones to me
it's mid-range tier. HD598 is what you want at that price point.

>>59572892
>He's just salty that he fell for the HD600 meme when better headphones exist in the $100-200 price point.
Fucking retard. You should stop giving people advice and just fuck off. You're retarded.
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>>59573324
what album
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>>59573231
HD650 is for its bass, otherwise you just get HD600.
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>>59573231
>soundstage meme
Good to know you're deaf
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>>59573324
Upgrade? Maybe. They have much better sub-bass than K7XX. Soundstage and imaging are worse.
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>>59573461
Nevermind, found it. Enemite - Wuyuan-The Necrolatry
Suprise, it's shit
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>Budget
~70$
>Location
sweden
>Source
pc, onboard soundcard
mostly gaming, some music
>Type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
closed i think but not high priority
>Comfort level
HIGH
>Sound signature
WARM
>Past headphones
Akg k550(way to bright), SS siberia v2(sounded good)
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>>59573516
So just pass on them?
>>59573547
Yeah. Only good song is this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SvPlLdV8Xg
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Find a flaw.
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>>59573736
Worse FR than HD650 while having almost identical harmonic distortion characteristics.
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>>59573736
Looks like you're wearing sewer-hole covers on your ears.
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>>59573231
>My girl's brother-in-law stays over our place for the weekend
>He has a pair of Beyerdynamic DT 770 and DT 880
>Have my Sennheiser HD650 prepared for a listening comparison


Oh my fucking God, the memes are true. I listened two these two Beyerdynamic headphones and holy crap they're the ugliest sounding, most overpriced piece of shit I've ever put on my ears.
>THAT.FUCKING.NONEXISTENT.BASS
>THAT.FUCKING.SHARP.AS.FUCK.TREBLE
>THOSE.FUCKING.NONDETACHABLE.CABLES
>THAT.FUCKING.LACK.OF.CLAMP

Who the fuck would buy this shit? The only thing they've got going for them is their admittedly good sound stage (the DT 880 were at least as good as my HD650) but holy mother fucking crap do they suck gargantuan nigger cocks. Fuck this shit. Fuck the Beyer's Remorse.
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>>59573736
I can't afford them. :-(
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>>59573906
You could at least put in some effort with your shitposting attempts.
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>>59573736
>Find a flaw.
Too expensive.

Other than that, they're top-tier.
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>>59573775
Nice meme.
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>>59574292
Feel free to prove the true facts stated otherwise.
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This dog has better and more expensive headphones on his head than you.

What's your excuse for using shit headphones?
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>>59573906
>Beyerdynamic DT 770 and DT 880
They're GREAT if you like HISSSSSSING. Everything fucking hisses when you listen through them.

I'm thankful to few anons who pointed me to HD598 and HD600. I would have ended up with shit like that... I'm sure.

Too bad there's few retards on here who still recommend garbage headphones to unsuspecting anons.
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>>59573422
been looking around for some HD598's but having the same problem as >>59569607, do you have any other suggestions, anon?
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>>59570524

At less than $60, these are a great deal. They are built well, are SUPER comfortable, and they sound excellent.
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>>59574471
I second this. What's the best alternative?
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>>59574471
Where do you live anon? Can't you find some way to import them? Ebay? Even used is OK since you can just wash the earpads.

>>59574556
There really isn't one at that price point.
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>>59574367
the hissing comes from your crappy source material. the snapheisers have rolled off highs which masks your shit
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>Budget
$100
>Location
NYC
>Source
Portable device/Computer
>Type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
Mid
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-XB500
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>>59574644
>stupid memetard
kys. just fucking do it. you're retarded and don't understand what sibilant means.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=beyerdynamic+sibilant

>Hundreds of people
>Same issue.
but no, it's the """source issue"""

just kys
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>>59574702
If you meant sibilant then why didn't you say that.
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>>59574641
Denmark and the only way to do it makes it cost 230 Euros+shipping, which is a bit more than I am willing to spend
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>>59574746
>If you meant sibilant then why didn't you say that.
Is English your second language? I hope it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibilant
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I have a Sennheiser PC360 headset (based on the HD555/595) that's starting to fall apart from use. Was thinking of replacing it with a pair of HD599, they seem like the most straightforward upgrade, but how much better would they really be sound wise?
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>>59574845
>HD599
HD598 are pretty much the same thing for a lot less money. I think it's a worthy upgrade over PC360.
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>>59573736
Honestly at $1,700 the HD800S are pretty much the only end game headphones with reasonable price.
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Does anybody have any experience with the m50x? I've been eyeing it to replace my shitty gaming headset.
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>>59574702
>>59574815

hissing and sibilant are very different, anon. if you spent less time being butthurt on the internet, maybe you'd know the difference
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>>59575047
>butthurt denies reality
Well, apparently you can't even read English. Stay moronic.
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>>59574702
>Hundreds of people
>Same issue
Unfortunately audiophile communities are filled with hundreds of brainlets like you who are too dumb to comprehend how things work and repeat shit other people say endlessly. I bet you didn't even listen to any beyer headphones.
Sibilants mostly come from crap mastering. Beyer likes to boost highs and lows while rolling off mids in their headphones. Sibilants do not magically disappear on your snaphaisers, you just don't hear them due to rolled off highs.
Most of beyer headphones also require good source that compliments them, that's another thing you would never understand since you only buy """/g/ recommended shit""" like a good sheeple.
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>>59575106
>MUH AUDIOPHILES
>MUH SHEEPLE
>MUH POORFAGNESS
>MUH SHITCANS
Let me translate that into what you can understand: HHHHHSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSs

Enjoy that garbage anon.
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>>59575166
Good job proving my point. Keep on shitposting.
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>>59574914
Where I live the 598s have already become a hassle to find, and not that much cheaper. But thanks, I guess I'll go for it.
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>>59575194
HSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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>>59575265
The fuck is your point brainlet? This graph shows sound signature. Boosted highs have nothing to do with sibilants
Start by googling what causes sibilants before you attempt to shitpost. You make a fool out of yourself.
Also really makes you think why beyer headphones are used worldwide for professional work while snaphaisers are used by obese virgins on /g/, reddid and head-fi.
This is last (You) you get out of me, now fuck of back to masturbating to your poorfag 589s.
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>>59575166
Looks pretty good to me desu.
That peak can be fixed with eq I imagine.
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Thoughts on these for use on the go and at home?
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>>59573736
Paint chipping, expensive to buy and even more expensive replacement parts, HD 800 exists, low sensitivity and tonality is poor.
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>>59575327
HSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>59575350
>That peak can be fixed with eq I imagine.
That always produces shit results due to non-linear frequency response. When you """fix""" it in that range, it fucks up other ranges.
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>>59575354
M40's are cheaper and better for the same purpose. Grab DT250 or MSR7 Pads for better comfort while retaining the same sound
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>>59575466
Tbh you can fix it with a parametric equalizer, but there'll probably be a bit of distortion because of how sharp the peak is.
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>>59575497
>M40's are cheaper and better for the same purpose
Elaborate? Also I can only find the m40x available here.
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>>59575532
>Tbh you can fix it with a parametric equalizer, but there'll probably be a bit of distortion because of how sharp the peak is.
That's the thing. You can't. You're going from digital domain to a physical one though a transducer. Moving atoms is not the same as moving bits.

Research non-linear response to see why.
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>>59575590
Harman Lab proved that you can digitally equalize HD518 to sound subjectively completely flat
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>>59573906
>DT770
>Lack of clamp

You, sir, are clearly a nigger.
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>>59575647
LMAO. No they didn't. Analog =/= Digital.

if if were as easy as that, you could take a paper plate and make an amazing sounding speaker out of it. But you can't. Because physics. Because non-linear response.
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>>59575700
Yes they did.
As long as you actually have enough volume headroom in the frequency range you're modifying.

Of course you can't equalize anything if the plate isn't actually vibrating at that frequency.
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>>59575739
Theoretically you can make anything... even a warp drive. In practice, you're faced with things and imperfections that you cannot overcome.

As soon as you EQ one band, other bands go out of whack due to harmonic distortions. It's like a cat and mouse game.

It's best to buy headphones that are properly tuned and manufactured in a way that produces the sound you like and be done with it.
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>>59575413
>low sensitivity and tonality is poor.

Nice meme words.
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>>59575856
Absolutely the opposite, anon.
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Someone is selling a pair of M50x's on Craigslist for $75. I currently have a pair of ATH-M40s and Superlux HD668B headphones. They both sound okay (not amazing), but I'm looking for something well suited for home use such as music, gaming and watching stuff. I listen to trash like electronic, rock and shitty video game soundtracks. I play a variety of games so positional audio isn't a big deal for me.

Something portable as well, for the occasional trip. My number one concern is comfort, though. My HD668Bs are uncomfortable as fuck. The M40s' are a bit more comfortable though.

I've always wanted to try out the M50x's but I don't know anyone who owns a pair. I've been eyeballing the 598's as well but I'm not sure if the $30+ price difference is worth it for a poorfag non-audiophile like me. I dunno should I just bite the bullet and see how it works for me, then eventually resell it or something?
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>>59575840
cool bro science
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>>59575540
They're cheaper, closer to neutral/slightly V-Shaped and with the money saved from getting 40's over 50's you can get new pads for better comfort.
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>>59575840
I don't see why you can't win that cat and mouse game by making a curve that would compensate for the distortion in such a way that the result is subjectively the sound you would want.

And people have been using parametric equalizers with completely expected, linear results for ages now. at least subjectively.
I could do it right now and test it with a sine wave generator.

I'm mainly sceptical because of my own subjective experience listening to equalized sine waves and getting exactly the results I expected from the equalization.
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So as another anon mentioned the massdrop AKG K7XX, is it really a good set of cans compared to the sennheiser HD598/HD600?
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>>59575894
HD598. Don't even think about getting some closed cans as an "upgrade".
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>>59575978
For more bass, absolutely.
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>>59576015
Why, when HD558 sound literally, objectively better even if only by 2db?
That foam pad actually softens the mid-highs a bit.
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>I'll pay +$50 for a less linear headphone
>I'll void my warranty and remove the foam to make my headphones sound like worse headphones
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>>59572924
I think HD600 mid bass helps with idolfags a lot since mastering can be on harsh side. HD800 aSS tho. Sennheiser tamed HD800 resonance peaks with a... fucking resonator, but you can do the same with HD800 yourself. Yes, it won't be as sophisticated as on HD800S but people who did it are more than satisfied with results and don't report it fucking up HD800 sound in any noticeable way. Another thing that HD800S has been 'warmed up' by introducing 2nd harmonic distortion, which you can do by getting a tube amp and which means that HD800S are a bit worse off when equalising than HD800. But most importantly I've seen deals on HD800 for under 1k, when HD800S goes nearly always by its full 1.5k price.
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>>59575945
>I don't see why you can't win that cat and mouse game by making a curve that would compensate for the distortion in such a way that the result is subjectively the sound you would want.
Solve the chaos equations, win a Nobel Prize (or tow) and then you'll be able to make it work.

In the mean time, you'll always have harmonic distortions. That's why making transducers aka "headphone drivers" is so expensive and time consuming. It's a lot of trial & error. Then you have to deal with baffles...

It's not easy.

EQ almost never works well. And EQing DT770 to remove sibilance without fucking up bass & mids is impossible.
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>>59576169
I just don't see how you can't take distorted headphones and equalize them to be distorted in a way that you subjectively enjoy.
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>>59576034
Do you know if the bass has clarity in it?

I know i am going to need an amp and I am looking at the FiiO E10K USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier.
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>>59575466
>>59575590
>>59575700
>>59575840
>>59576169
Anon please stop posting. This is embarrassing.
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>>59576121
why do people do this shit lmao
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>>59576203
>can't see why he can't turn a pile of shit into a pile of gold
Go fucking do it then. Become a millionaire overnight.
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>>59575166
>that peak
EAR RAPE
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>>59576121
>DAT FUCKING BUTTHURT
HSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSssSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

at least those don't hiss

stay mad
stay poor
stay retarded
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>use non-neutral IEMs
>get tired
I hope burn in meme is real or maybe I'm just having a shit day
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>>59576334
What are you talking about.
I'm comparing HD558 to HD598.
Both are very cheap headphones.

t. owns HD558
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ayy
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>>59576166
>Another thing that HD800S has been 'warmed up' by introducing 2nd harmonic distortion, which you can do by getting a tube amp and which means that HD800S are a bit worse off when equalising than HD800.

Stop spreading misinformed lies. Sennheiser has a good reason tuning the HD800S the way it is.
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>>59576365
>I hope burn in meme is real or maybe I'm just having a shit day
It's not. They'll be tiring forever, unfortunately.

Human ears are more sensitive at higher frequencies so those bumps in treble are so fucking awful.

You want phones that don't have a huge freq response in that area since your ear is sensitive enough to pick it up.

To make things even more complicated, human ears are also non-linear.

http://www.silcom.com/~aludwig/Nonlinear.htm

tl;dr: get another set of earphones and pick something more neutral.
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>>59576334
Why is it that every single time I encounter someone absolutely retarded who doesn't know shit about what he's talking about, it turns out to be an anime faggot?

I know it's anecdotal evidence, but 100% correlation is something.
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>>59576402
Non-linearity of hearing doesn't come into the equation of tuning headphones because being the last instance of the signal path, at a single point in time, they are subjectively flat at all times.
Of course hearing is non-linear, it's called "paying attention to a particular instrument".

>>59576423
Fuck off retard.
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>>59576458
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>>59576203
Nonlinear distortion is rarely a problem in headphones and equalization does not cause it. Headphones sound like their frequency response does and you alter the sound with an equalizer. You can turn a good pair of headphones into drastically different kinds of sound signatures if you are competent with a PEQ.

Some key practical limits to headphone equalization:

-Cancellations modes within the ear cups(think EL-8, HE-500, Momentum) which you can't compensate for
-Unstable response due to leakage(think of K550, K545 and their derivatives) and/or positioning(in-ears and modal resonances varying by insertion depth)
-Lack of bandwidth(think of ear buds and to some extent certain in-ears like the SE535)
-Completely excessive distortion even at moderate volumes(ear buds)
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>>59576423
hey dude, just wondering, do you actually know that the hissing isn't caused by the cans themselves?
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>>59576519
Oh, okay.
I've been using a PEQ for ages without problems, so I was confused by his claims. Then again I use IEMs.

Should've known better than to give the benefit of the doubt to an obvious retard, I guess.
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>>59576399
I never said that Sennheiser fucked up HD800S sound. If anything this was logical step in warming HD800 sound, seeing how frequently people pair HD800 with tube amps that introduce 2nd harmonic distortion. But for the difference of 500 you can get a decent tube amp yourself, Valhalla 2 is 350 for example. And headphones are more difficult to EQ when they have more 2nd harmonic distortion, you can probably say tho that the amount of additional 2nd distortion is not that high to change sound beyond some minor differences. But maybe I am taking this too far and getting HD800S with Sennheiser's own tuning is a safer route. Here is Tyll's article, its a fun read http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/sennheiser-hd-800-s-tweaked-and-delightfuland-french-diy-response#uVeuKxSvqrT9x22a.97
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Hey, im the WS1100is anon with static problem and OriGen+

I'm still having issues and I'm no giving up

So I'm still need to change my motherboard or there a new solution? also the issue is my DAC (OriGen) should I buy a new DAC/amp with the DC 5V with a bigger pin?


Also, could you guys please answer me this one question that you still haven't answered yet?>>59568738

Thanks for advance
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>>59576604
You just took advice from a fucking retard who uses hissing headphones and talks nonsense to make himself feel better. And that makes you too a fucking retard.

https://www.headphone.com/pages/evaluating-headphones

>>59576519
>Nonlinear distortion is rarely a problem in headphones
LMAO!!!!
see pic
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Could a smartphone drive 80 ohms or do I need something lower? I've been looking at the DT-770 pro.
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>>59576166
Even the HD800 with resonator mod will sound less bassy than the HD800S.
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>>59576573
He doesn't. There is probably like 4-5 people here in this thread that tried to explain this to him to no effect. At this point I'm seriously curious if it's shitposting or just some newfag who read too much shit on head-fi and wants to show off his """knowledge""" on /g/.
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>>59576780
Harmonic distortion is product of resonance inside the driver housings and/or the materials of the housing

The drivers themselves are outputting the equalized response as expected.

Also, you haven't provided any source to your claims yet.

I'd sooner trust Harman than some retard desu.
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>>59576891
it's most likely a combination of wanting a giggle, wanting to feel superior, and wanting to "integrate" with the "community" in this thread thinking he'll get miscellaneous praise from other idiots

but he probably gave up by now, whatever and all
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>>59576780
>LMAO!!!!
>see pic
To help your case provide examples where it is a problem besides the one which I already mentioned in my post.

>>59576705
>seeing how frequently people pair HD800 with tube amps that introduce 2nd harmonic distortion
They do? 2nd harmonic is warm?
>valhalla
http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/schiit-valhalla-2-measurements.2820/

From Schiit:
>THD: < 0.02%, 20Hz-20KHz, at 1V RMS, high gain (worst case)
>IMD: < 0.03%, CCIF at 1V RMS, high gain (worst case)

I have my doubts this amplifier will not cause any meaningful coloration. Then again THD and IMD values are meaningless. They don't tell us how it sounds or even how audible it is but at 0.02% below fundamental in the worst case I'd quite safely call it transparent in this regard. It's a good amp so it doesn't distort much at all.

>And headphones are more difficult to EQ when they have more 2nd harmonic distortion
They are not and THD is not relevant. This is complete nonsense. Where are you pulling this from?

>tuning
I'm positive that it wasn't Sennheiser's intention to make them distort more. That is never a good thing. The design is a minor alteration of the HD 800 with a simple resonator placed in. It alleviates the issue of HD 800's sharp 6 KHz rise somewhat but still retains the same tonality and same coloration overall. If you want to fix that for good you equalize.

>>59576894
Harmonic distortion is caused by the driver. Saying this doesn't tell anything about the distortion, the type, audibility or severity of it. The distortion output is always there with the fundamental tone. Even if a pair of headphones were to match a target response within +-0.1 dB across 20Hz to 20 KHz, they could still very well have audible amount of nonlinear distortion as it doesn't show up in the FR. Headphones and all audio transducers are very nonlinear devices by nature in multiple ways.
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Assuming you like how the DT880 sounds, what would be the natural upgrade?
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>>59577104
If it don't show up on FR, it ain't there.
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>>59577234
Heavy tinnitus
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>>59577265
>Heavy tinnitus
>Heavy tinnitus
>Heavy tinnitus
>Heavy tinnitus
dear anon, pls stop. I think I'm gonna burst my spleen from too much laughter.
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>>59577235
Yes it is "there" and it can be extremely objectionable. Nonlinear distortion is very complex.
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>>59577291
Don't reply to my posts, retard.
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>>59576891
>I'm seriously curious if it's shitposting or just some newfag who read too much shit on head-fi
If it were the former, that would be an exceptionally dedicated poster. Posts crap in threads other than /hpg/ for a couple of months.
It really feels more like genuine belief.
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>>59577234
>Assuming you like how the DT880 sounds, what would be the natural upgrade?
Fire a handgun in a closed room without wearing any ear protection. Enjoy the improved Beyerdynamic™ experience.
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>>59577585
I already made that joke you faggot
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>>59577234
HD600.

Not kidding. Real upgrade there.
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>>59577642
Tested both, not what i'm looking for.
>>59577585
>>59577265
Even CG was better than this, you faggots can't even shitpost right.
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Should I? I've had nothing but shit gaming headsets before.
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>>59577853
Go for it.
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>>59578072
Judging by the pic you're not serious. What should I get then senpai?
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>>59573705
>>59573705
bump
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About to get these Xcessor silicone replacement tips for my Carbo Tenores.
Anyone have experience with em?

Comply foams are nice, not good for short listening though.
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>>59577853
This is too harsh in trebble, check DT880 instead or HD700 if you have more bux as they may sound really nice if you like them and will sound really good in games.
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What DAC would you recommend for the HD650?
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>chaos equations
There is no "chaos equation" or collection of. There are innumerable equations that have chaotic solutions, and there are means available to represent the behavior of such systems.
The sensitivity of a headphone to a small displacement does not produce radically different results in the time evolution of the system. The mention of chaos is unnecessary.

>parametric equalization
Equalization itself is a linear operation. In the frequency domain, it is a simple ratio.
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I want a high-end headphone with a good bass. Fostex TH900? HD800S?
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>>59578558
both have shitty bass
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>>59567562
>thought those headphones were badly shopped in
>turns out they're in the original pic

Kinda impressive desu.
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>>59578423
You don't need a "special" DAC, but you'll definitely want an amp, as they're low sensitivity (gain a must) and power-hungry (decent maximum output at high impedance a must).

Schiit Fulla2 is a good dac, but the amp it has might fall short with the HD650. A Magni2 would definitely have you covered amp-wise.

If in doubt grab fulla2, and upgrade to magni2 (using fulla2 as dac) later.
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>>59578614
Do you have any actual recommendations, then?
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>>59578707
NAD VISO HP50, M-Audio HDH50, Fostex THX00
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>>59578707
Get some Beats by Dre
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>>59578729
>NAD VISO HP50

Looks cheap and uncomfy senpai

>M-Audio HDH50
>$100

ayy lmao

>Fostex THX00

thx 4 the rec
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>>59578732
go jump off a cliff
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>>59578647
Instead of buying Fulla2, would be Magni2 + Modi2 a better option?
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>>59578558
LCD 2 for dat sub bass but they have a really rolled off highs.
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>>59578766
Much more expensive for no benefit whatsoever.
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>>59578749
>Looks cheap
$250
>and uncomfy
they are
>>$100
>ayy lmao
doesn't change the fact that the bass response is superb
>thx 4 the rec
massdrop only =^)
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>>59577853
I suppose it's alright.
Boosted lows and highs, moderate clamp, fixed cable.
The Beyer Custom One should have less of a high frequency bump, adjustable bass vent, and different earpads.

>>59578777
>rolled off highs
If anything, LCD headphones tend to display the opposite characteristic. They do not lack top octave response.

>>59578647
>low sensitivity
Sort of.
>and power-hungry
No. The requirement it makes on power draw, which doesn't matter very much, is fairly middle of the road.
The constraints of an amplifier do not closely follow power. Stop mentioning it.
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>>59578766
A better option would be going for the Audio-gd NFB-11. Costs a bit more than a Schiit stack, but it's worth it. It's exactly what I'm getting for my HD 650
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>>59578878
>moderate clamp
the clamp can be loosened by stretching the headband
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>>59578754
>go jump off a cliff
No need. I have more than enough bass.

What about you, anon?
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>>59578766
modi2 and fulla2 use the same dac and effectively sound the same.

fulla2 can be chained to magni2 like modi2 typically is

Unlike modi2, fulla2 is also an amp, and while it's not the absolute best out there, it does pretty good for something usb powered.
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>>59578933
You're correct, it works.
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>>59578998
stretching the headband like that is going to fuck up the pads
but owning snapheisers and a bottlehead is full JUST tier anyway so idk
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>>59567562
Taking a break while listening on my HD600:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IsSAnAShD8

im@s yay.
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>>59578998
Tell me about the magic of tubes...NOW...please.
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>>59575413
>HD800S
>Paint chipping
Oh well, not like your opinion mattered but the S doesn't even have a paint finish.
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>>59578998
WOW!

HD600 fucking rules!
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>>59579053
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>Hifiman is good
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>>59579336
Seen ;) That was awesome.

atm enjoying "THE iDOLM@STER Radio: 歌道場 (Utadojo)". Specifically, akatsuki no kuruma sung by chihaya and azusa.
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>>59574329
I'm not a dog.
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>>59575042
Don't. M50x have poor soundstage, and are sibilant as hell. Stock pads also suck shit.
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Enjoying some beer, prog rock and my HD800's.

You guys aren't poor, right?
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>>59579424
this is the voice of Azusa.
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which would be better for me as a DAC/Amp combo?
>Jotunheim 2
> Schiit Stack (Magni 2 Uber Modi 2 Uber)
I have the Philips X2s, might get more hard to drive headphones one day.
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>>59579524
>HD800's
Enjoy your sibilance, smugfag.
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>>59579526
Aware. I prefer to think about the character somehow.

More relevant to my interests. Particularly with long hair.
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>>59579527
You don't need any of that expensive Shit shit. Save the money instead to upgrade to good cans instead. X2's are 35 Ohms only and even a phone can drive that.

As for DACs, no one can tell DACs apart in blind tests. It's the biggest waste of money in audiophool world. They literally don't make much difference if they're well isolated.
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>>59579534
>t. piss poor faggot
You jealous, hombre?
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>>59579571
Cool. Thank you
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>>59579524
>>59579578
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>>59579527
The jotunheim (there's no 2... yet) is far more endgame-ish, with plenty of power and the balanced meme. It also only costs a little over what the uber stack does.

If you're thinking on messing with lots of headphones in the future, perhaps grab the jot. Personally, I have the uber stack and I'm plenty happy with it.
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>>59579591
>he thinks I have a job
topkek
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>>59579571
>>59579618
>>59579527
I'd say grab a fulla 2 (very practical device) and use the money on some new cans instead.

From X2 you could, say, go to HD600 or 650 depending what you're looking for (absolute neutrality or a slight edge of color)
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>>59579618
>buying external amps
What is this, 1995?
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>>59579666
HD600 owner here.

I can confirm: They sound like absolute garbage from computer output, and well but not loud at all from the phone.

Of course, headphones do exist which work well from any source, but as headphones get good, this is less and less the case.
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Has anyone used Bluedio before? Looking to buy my first ever headphones. Always been a fan of in-ear earphones, but I'm annoyed at them falling out.

Seen on Ali Express the Bluedio T4s are coming out in a few days, wondering if i should get them.

If not, my budget is around £80. I'd like Bluetooth and active noise cancellation.
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Has anyone used Bluedio before? Looking to buy my first ever headphones. Always been a fan of in-ear earphones, but I'm annoyed at them falling out.

Seen on Ali Express the Bluedio T4s are coming out in a few days, wondering if i should get them.

If not, my budget is around £80. I'd like Bluetooth and active noise cancellation.
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>>59579722
>bluedio
>new model coming out.
I don't know bluedio, but here's a hint: Previous models being any good or bad do not imply new, untested models, will also be.

Just wait for reviews or, the better answer, buy something that's actually known good.
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>>59579710
I use HD800's from my motherboard, sounds good to me :^)
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>>59579780
>I use HD800's from my motherboard, sounds good to me :^)
Christ. And I was just going to sleep.

Now I'll have nightmares.
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>>59579722
>Bluedio
those UFO cans are absolute garbage. just going off that, I'd stay away from anything these chinks make.
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>>59578955
I don't want nigger bass you nigger.
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>>59579823
Then grab some HD600 and enjoy.
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>>59579886
ebin meme
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>>59579722
>If not, my budget is around £80. I'd like Bluetooth and active noise cancellation.
Why self-sabotage yourself like that? bt and anc pretty much ensure you won't get something good sounding.

With that budget, you can almost reach for actual quality, such as what HD598 would give you. Entrypoint good sound.
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>>59579886
That's a sidegrade, not an upgrade.
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Best headset for music/vidya under 90 that I can go buy at a place like gamestop/radioshack/bestbuy/frys in the US?
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The worth of your headphones are judged by the anime girls who wear them. And Mio is best girl, thus AKG K701 is best headphone.

Take your snapheisers and beyersremorse elsewhere.
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>>59579961
>headset
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/File:1320020147396.png
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>>59579998
Sonoda umi sounds best on HD600.
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>>59580061
Your shitty headphones will never be acknowledged by your shitty waifu.
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Enough idols for me and my HD600 for the night.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVj1_xBxdU

Tomorrow more.
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>>59580069
>shitty waifu
Mio and Umi are literally the same lmao.
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>>59576047
>Why, when HD558 sound literally, objectively better even if only by 2db?

what the fuck
anon, what the fuck have you been smoking?
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>>59580010
but I need it NOW!!! headsets got it all and I can have it immediately
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>>59580088
They're voiced by different seiyuu.

If they sound the same to you, you're either deaf or desperately in need of an upgrade to your gear.
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>>59578380
What?
The treble spike on 880's is nearly the same as 770's.

Also the HD700 is garbage.
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I'm looking for headphones around the price of the audiotechnica m40x (a friend's recomendation), are there any better headphones or better value?
They'll be used for gaming and listening to music.
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>>59580100
Plus they're distinct character archetypes as well. Similar, but still different enough that its an insult to both to claim they're the same.
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>>59580111
Fill out the form.
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>>59578558
TH900 has great bass
Get that
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>>59578777
>>59578878
I concur, i'm listening to my LCD2.2's now and they just sound completely balanced to me. Treble is not lacking whatsoever.
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>>59580097
>headsets got it all
Comfort? No.
Mic quality? No.
Headphone quality? Nope nope nope.

Headsets got nothing. They're a scam. Most of them bundle literally worthless drivers and mics.

Those that don't (see for an example HMD280 vs HD280) are ripping you off at many times the price, for just the extra mic attachment.
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>>59580010
outdated website
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Turtle beach x12, God damn why has no one suggested these, they are fucking elite and only 10$ on ebay, Fuck sake..
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>>59580210
they have absolute garbage build and comfort though
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>>59580162
amp recs?
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>>59570524
S version is shit
non-S is better.
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>>59580097
Hyperx Cloud's, don't get the Cloud 2's.
Only headsets worth a damn as they took pretty popular headphones, stuck a mic on them, and raised the price for gullible gaymers across the world.
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>>59579322
There are tons of pics like that of several models, it's nothing that impressive really.
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>>59580235

Comfortable af, Great design.
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>>59580276
Whats wrong with the Cloud 2's?
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>>59580334
Different drivers and design, so the sound isn't likely as good, but I've only got experience with the originals.
And a gimmicky USB adapter.
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>>59580246
fulla2, magni2, jotunheim
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>>59580246
You might want something coloured on the warm side of the spectrum because i heard the treble on the 900's can be a bit much. So a tube amp maybe? Little dot MKII? Idk, i haven't looked into tube amps too much.
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How do I keep my open back headphones on my head while jogging without clamping my ears off?
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>>59580089
They're flatter at 1.5khz-4khz range by about ~3db on average.
So they're literally more accurate and have less "mud".
Otherwise they're completely identical.
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>>59580250
what's the difference? All I could see is they lack some foam behind the ear cups and only come with a 5 foot cable instead of a bag and two cables.

I'm planning on putting HM5 pads and will likely do a couple of quick mods that are supposed to make these sound better (blu-tak on the back of the drivers and adding a piece of foam). I ended up just buying the $40 open box S version.
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>>59580710
Dude... don't wear open back headphones while jogging.

I dunno.. mummify your head and headphones with ace bandage? not sure how to fix this.
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>>59580992
Why not? I can always get new pads and its not like I need anything cumbersome to drive them.
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>>59581013
>Why not?

because they fall off your head? Now I'm feeling confused. If you want to wear big ass headphones while jogging you're going to need a chinstrap or something, something purpose built, and nobody is as insane as you as to want to jog in big open cans, ya dork.
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>>59581037
But that's why I asked.

Guess i'm weird then.
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>>59581049
Get a balaclava that is a size too big, and stretch it over your head+headphones.

I would suggest you invest in something closed-back though so you can't hear people snicking and laughing at you while you jog.
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>>59581072
Are you implying that I don't jog before the sun even comes up so I don't have to deal with other people or cars in my way?
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>>59581096
of course not NEET soopremist here. I welcome automation with open arms.
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>>59581105
Good.

Now point me to where i can get a lot of ace bandage and a balaclava one size too large so I can mummify my head.
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>>59581049
>Guess i'm weird then.
Open back headphones is mostly for studio/home listening
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>>59581178
>studio
Rarely. A studio is much more likely to have proper studio monitors, and won't be using open backs for monitoring in the booth
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Hey guys, so you all helped me out yesterday and today when I was deciding upong the HD598 and the massdrop AKG K7XX. Well Amazon had same day shipping and I got my HD598. Man the bass is right up my alley. I like everything about it, but do I need an amp for it? I know I dont but would it go to teh same level as the K7XX somewhat? I also need a knob to turn the sound up and down for games and such. OR would I like the k7XX even more if I enjoy the 598?
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>>59581265
The 598 do sound better with an amp though they won't get near K7XX's level. If you want more bass, K7XX's are great.
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>>59581265
anything over 50-60ohm you need an amp for
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>>59581397
>do sound better with an amp
amps aren't supposed to alter the sound signature, fuck off shitposter
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>>59581447
impedance has nothing to do with sensitivity, fuck off shitposter
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>>59579711
I absolutely love my Bluedio R's. These headphones has what I personally think is excellent sound quality. They are also the only Bluetooth headphones I am aware of that work as a USB sound card when you connect them to a computer, if it doesn't have Bluetooth then you can use USB to send digital to it and use it's CSR DAC chip instead of analog over 3.5mm.

The Bluedio T2s sound a lot worse, it's like listening to Bluedio R's through a blanket or something like that. The T2's also have the build quality you'd expect from a toy included with a McDonalds Happy meal and they sort of look like one too. I wouldn't recommend these for daily use at home or outdoor travel in safe places. You can get the T series models very cheaply on sale from time to time and they are fine for occasional use if you're going to no-go zones like Rinkeby in Stockholm and Malmö and Gotland where you'll very likely have your headphones smashed or stolen. If you don't live in Sweden or other muslim countries then you'll probably be better off buying something more expensive that sounds better.
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Just a couple of years ago /hpg/ used to tell retard placebophiles to fuck off.

Now everyone owns a tube amp and repeats headfi memes.
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What are some good earbud options?

Right now I'm using the over head skullcandy uproar which I think focus on bass, so I'd like that.

>Budget
$30ish max, I can push past this, but I don't want to spend 100 on headphones
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>>59581556
Fill out the form.
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>>59581556
I wanted to recommend you mine, but then I remembered they're low impedance balanced armatures, so you'll probably have massive problems unless you use a sansa clip+ for playback and your DAC costs like twice more than the earphones themselves.

I was lucky enough that my PC case front panel jack has low enough impedance to not distort them lel
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>>59581578

>Budget
$30~
>Location
NYC
>Source
Ipod
>Type of headphone
Earbud
>Open or closed
Do buds even have this option?
>Comfort level
No strong preference, whatever doesn't irritate the ears
>Sound signature
Bass based
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Uproar
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>>59581397
>>59581447
Can you help me choose which amp I should get for my 598?
These are my three choices in that price range:
FiiO E10K USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier
SMSL sApII TPA6120A2 Big Power
SMSL SD793-II PCM1793 DIR9001
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>>59581605
Are you talking about earbuds [like the old apple ones], or talking about canalphones that have a silicone tip to seal them?
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>>59581620
Are your 598 loud enough for you to listen to music at good volumes?
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>>59581625

Canalphones
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>>59581634
Tennmak Pro would be a good option. They'll give you the best value if you care about sound. You have to buy from china though. eBay/Aliexpress have them for about $33 USD.
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>>59581450
>Proceeds to frog post
Okay.
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>>59581650
>You have to buy from china though.

Oh god, thanks but any other options then? I'd like to not have to wait a month, and I don't really trust ebay
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>>59581605
>>>/g/csg see infographics. read OP.
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Are there any Free Open Source Non-Proprietary headphones?
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>>59581633
Yes it seems alright, I know you;re gunna say then I dont need an amp. But doesnt the amp clean the sound a bit at higher volumes or bring some more life in the 598?
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>>59581468
it usually does though
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>>59581682
There are other options, but they're all generally a fair bit worse. Chi-Fi is amazing value at this price point.

But yeah, waiting a month is an issue for some. eBay is entirely trustworthy though. Every refund I've ever needed to put through has gone out without an issue. eBay almost always sides with the buyer.

Your best option is probably just to sort by highest ratings on amazon and then buy whatever is within your budget and has reasonable shipping time.
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>>59581794
>>59581794
>>59581794
>>59581794

New thread.
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>>59581754
If you think you want one, go for it, especially if you plan to upgrade headphones in the future.

My headphones were loud and I got a Fulla 2 regardless and am super happy with the results, the convenience of it is worth it.
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>>59581754
No.
The only thing an amp does is increase the volume.
If your amp does something other than increasing the volume, you have a faulty amp and should return it.
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I'm playing vidya music here https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac
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>>59581447
Stop.
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>>59575840
>It's best to buy headphones that are properly tuned and manufactured in a way that produces the sound you like and be done with it.
I did a lot of signal processing courses in university. This is utter bullshit. I don't use EQs because of only one reason: Delay. Latency for me is important. That's all.
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>>59581853
Or

The older output was faulty and amplifier just worked as intended. But sure enough, a working and good amplifier should not do anything else than alter volume.

>>59582874
Minimum phase EQ adds none but that anon's concepts of analog and digital signals are complete nonsense indeed. The romanticized idea of analog devices having some one tuned and ideal response which shouldn't or can't be corrected is ridiculous.
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