/pcbg/ - PC Build General - Cooler than an Iceland Ice Cave edition

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>>59447674
I was asking about 1440/144 yesterday but decided to save some money and go for 1080/144. Not planning on overclocking, main idea is to play witcher 3 on ultra/very high settings and some fps (overwatch, titanfall 2)
I might go back to roguelikes but want certain futureproofing.
Still need to add a GPU (RX 480? 1070? 1080 ti?) and maybe change the PSU, but I don't want to go cheap on those.
Usa, was thinking about $2000 as budget.
Any recommendation on what to replace?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/44GwKZ

>>59448933

I've been looking for a 144 monitor. I hope you come back and give a full report on whatever monitor you choose. I'm very interested in hearing what owners of these monitors have to say about them (and I am particularly interested in ASUS monitors because I've been buying them for over ten years now and I'm a big fan).

i have some costco dell i use for my meme job that has an i7 4790. assuming i upgrade the psu accordingly, whats the best gfx card i can get without experiencing bottlenecking from either the gpu or cpu?

>>59448933
check johnnyguru to see what psu he has reviewed lately
750watts gold is not 110 bucks

This pc is gonna be for gaming and i live in Germany. Can i save money somewhere? Also, which OS should I get?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gGTDTH

>>59449023
That build lists Asus VG248QE which I read it's the best 1080/144 although it's TN. 1440/144 are ips but over $500

>>59449071
Still have to decide on the GPU to see which PSU but I will do that, thanks

Is the extra $20 for a Ryzen 5 1500 worth it for the better clock speeds and cooler?

>>59449031
forgot to mention, want to play games at max/ultra or close to max/ultra settings at 1080p/60fps, possibly VR in the near future

>>59449105
Compared to what?

$20 isn't that much to debate, so you should get it

First time building a computer for gaming so I'm not sure what a good and bad value and whatnot. this is what i put together, price is a little more than i want to spend though it isn't a big deal.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QKmBWX

Used to create a cheap NAS
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZkcKM8

>>59448933

I made a few changes to your build. Well under your $2000 budget with exceptional performance.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q37dzM

>>59449146
compared to the Ryzen 1400.

>>59449197
The stock intel cooler comes with pre applied thermal paste, so you don't need a tube unless you're planning on taking it apart regularly, the G4560 is better value then an i3 *if* you can find one. Also hyperx is usually expensive ram, you could go with a cheaper set if you want to save some coin. Everything else looks fine.

>>59449376
That seems great, thanks.
Two questions

Never tried liquid cooling, should I research a little bit and go for it or try a regular fan? Something like the NH-U14S

Second, should I spend some extra and get the 1080 ti?

anyone has an opinion on the Asus PA329Q 32.0"? Im thinking to get 2 of those badboys to increase my html coding speed by 3% .

how is the 4k experience in a working environment?

>>59449456

Going with a 1080ti is up to you. I'm not sure it's worth spending $250 more for perhaps an additional 15 frames per second.

As for the cooling, I'd go with liquid. I'd put its radiator venting out the top of that case (which is the best case on the market, IMHO). The case comes with two fans — one pulling in front and one pushing out back. I'd consider adding another fan or two in pull mode, either to the front or on the bottom or both. I've added them to your list -

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9dB9vV

>>59449415
go for it

its only $20

>>59449431
okay thank you!

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why is there ram with the same capacity, latency and basically the same but with such price differences?

G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 4x8
DDR4-3200
cas 14
311 €

G.Skill TridentZ Series
DDR4-3200
cas 14
450€

G.Skill TridentZ RGB
DDR4-3200
cas 14
534€

>>59449650
Most likely overstocking.

They must be trying to get rid of the sale suffering ones.

>>59448876
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RcZrnn
R8 M8S

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LtsxY

what card should i get, want to play last years AAA games at 1080p/60fps

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>>59448876
>Cooler than an Iceland Ice Cave edition

G4560 - £63

Asrock H110M-HDS DDR4 Motherboard - £55

EVGA 430W PC Power Supply - £41

Corsair CMK8GX4M2A2400C14 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) - £62

WD 1tb hard drive - £44

TOTAL: £305


EVGA NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti SC 4GB - £151

£416 total

Just want a cheap rig, play some games at any settings just as long as its above 30 I'm fine.

Will ~500GB SSDs come back down to around $100 anytime soon?

>>59449809

Here's my suggestion -
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCKd6

Two fans for the front of the case pulling in fresh air. I bumped up your psu to 650w. You'll need it with that gpu+cpu.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/XGvYqk

r8

>>59449959
>Two fans for the front of the case pulling in fresh air.

This. I had the same case before, but it can get really stuffy in there once your GPU goes under heavy load.

is 970 still good for 1080P gaming?

i am getting an i7 6700 but many people dont seem to recommend it

>>59449959
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zKCKd6
what are the two notches below the 1080. from both amd and nvidia? a card like that seems like overkill desu. thanks for the 2 front fans tip

>>59450303

The cost is a considerable issue for almost everyone. If you can afford it, seriously consider the GTX 1080. The performance gains over the 970 are substantial. Note that the 970 is already dangerously close and even below the magical 60 fps on several AAA gaming titles. You might be spending money on a gpu that will struggle in just a couple of years. It seems worth the effort to save for a 1080 or even a 1080 ti.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/2577vs3603

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>inb4 german student poorfag
saving money for pic related till end of the year
need a pc for gamin and render
any advise if there are other parts i should be looking forward to, till december
bugdet should be <2000€

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Did I do good, /g/?

>>59449886
I believe you can get a rx470 or maybe a 480 for the same price if you're lucky

How important is dual channel? I have the choice between a mobo that does it and another that does not, price difference is 20€. Should I pick the expensive one with dual channel? I plan on buying 2X8GB by the way.

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If you have time read more than the question above, then I'd also appreciate help regarding the two said mobos for my own personal /g/ knowledge :

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-DS3H-rev-10#kf
http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-D3H-rev-10#kf

As you can see on the cheap one, the DS3H, it says it only has "2 fan headers" - what does that mean exactly? Let's say I end up buying a case which has two fans in it, does that means I'll only be able to mount of one of them? (the other one is the CPU one, as you can see on the picture they put, purple dots)

>>59450552
That smile... someone should check if this kid is having a stroke.

>>59450739
Dual-channel doubles the memory bandwidth, so it's pretty important. Also, both of the MOBOs you linked state that they support dual-channel.

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so i built my new PC, but when i try to apply fan speed it shits itself and i have to reset through safe mode to load default settings wtf.

can't even set RAM timing without the PC not turning back on after reset.

goddamit i fucking hate computers REEEEEEEE!!!

>>59450849
Oh yeah indeed. On PCpartpicker I think they said the DS3H doesn't so I thought...

Now all that's left is the question about fans. Thanks.

I'm about buy my parts, figure I'd ask for any problems with it. This is my first build, budgeted, use for graphic design / gaming / casual use.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L6Jkm8

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>>59450857
>32GB 1071Mhz

>>59450934
Consider replacing the i3 with either pentium g4560 or stepping up to i5 7400. Unless you're planning to upgrade your RAM soon, it would be better to get 2x4GB so you can benefit from dual-channel. The 1050ti is kind of bad when it comes to price/performance; I would recommend getting a 1060 or 470 instead. I admittedly don't know much about Wi-Fi adapters, but the one you've chosen seems a bit expensive considering that it doesn't even support 802.11AC.

>>59451090

you stupid anime poster hurry up and fix my PC, b

Even if my mobo can't support a RAM frequency above 2400, should I still go ahead and buy 3200 RAM if they are at the same prince? Just in case in the future I need them for potential future build?

Because yeah 2400 or 3200 is exactly the same price here.

>>59451090
>what is dual channel
dumb animeposter

>>59450552
>twin gtx 1080 to play minecraft

>>59450857
>>59451129
>dual SSD
Enjoy having your high failure rates :^)

>twin 1080 Ti
Fuck off richfag.

>>59451253
If you really want, you can. But the issue will be that your RAM will be underutilized if you go a higher speed than what your motherboard supports. So putting a 3200 on a 2400 board will make that 3200 underperform at 2400. Sure the performance between an underclocked 3200 versus a similar 2400 will be almost nothing, but still.

>>59451564
>So putting a 3200 on a 2400 board will make that 3200 underperform at 2400.
> Sure the performance between an underclocked 3200 versus a similar 2400 will be almost nothing, but still.
So you mean they'll stay at CL16 instead of downscaling to CL14?

>>59451619
Yeah? CAS won't change. It's the RAM speed that gets affected.

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Can somoene tell me if I installed my ram correctly and it's working correctly based off these two programs? No problems so far but I did notice some oddities.

I had some trouble putting the stick in because I attempted to mirror the stick I already had, of which it's an exact copy. However this new stick only has chips on one side, which is why I was confused about putting it in the wrong way.

>>59450538
>getting a i7
dumb scat eater, ryzen is better

>>59450504
>userbenchmark
leave and never come back

>>59450055
good if you have no budget and just want to spend money

also why 2 4k monitors, why not 3 or 1

>>59450857
>He bought babby lake
WE MEMED ANOTHER ONE GUYS LOL

>>59451949
Are you here to tell us again how we can't OC on air coolers?

>>59450538
Looks fine to me

>>59451972
not on the ones intel gives you, unless you fancy housefires

>>59451949
>also why 2 4k monitors, why not 3 or 1
I already use 2. it's very useful. and I want to buy monitors which will hold at least 5-10 years.

>>59451975
great post ramesh

>>59451988
so why not 3? or wait for the 144hz 4k monitors

>>59452016
why? I dont play games and those are very good for artists and shit.

>>59448876
I own a Phenom II x6 1100T with 16GB of RAM. I think it would be a waste to throw it away. PSU is a 620W model from Seasonic.

Which video card would you suggest?

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>>59452004
great post pajeet

>>59452072
I suggest you buy intel

>>59451942
Can someone answer me please

>>59452189
just buy kaby lake

>>59448876
Iceland is actually not very cold due to it being a constant oceanic climate. Sure it's Arctic area but the warm sea air flows over the island constantly and there's rarely any year-long snow apart from the glaciers which are uninhabitable and generally forgotten by the average íslander

>>59448933
Just so you're aware, there's no system in the world that can run witcher 3 at 144fps

Did I miss anything or is there no point in buying a mobo more expensive than one of the basic ones ($130 vs $200+) if you don't want to SLI or do a bunch of other exotic shit like heavy overclocking? Basic ones have the features I need but I don't know if I missed something that could be a useful feature those cheap mobos lack.

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First PC here. $1000 is my budget. It's a little over but I'm okay with that.

I'm trying to build something powerful enough for gaming and 3D modeling. I went i7 because I heard that's the best choice for this from a friend, especially for 3D modeling. I would go i5 otherwise.

Any recommendations?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qXFqQV

why go with ryzen? it doesnt support quad channel.

>>59452646
>needing quad channel

>>59452826
>>59452646
I thought quad channel was one of the main competitive points of ryzen 3 weeks ago?

>>59452840
nah, I just read it will never be available because too expensive or something

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>>59448876

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>>59452958
Excuse the cable management first time builder lol i have a gtx1060 i7 6700k 250 gb ssd 16 gb of ddr4 ram

>>59452646
>>59452826
>>59452840
whats quad channel?

>>59453003
Twice as important as dual channel

is there a good website for cable management and flow control?

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Using this old turntable shell as a case. Super budget build, super budget case.

Still need to do some cable maintenance and wire a proper power button. Right now I have an old arcade button on the inside.

>>59452978
Looks nice. I would get at least a 1 TB HDD for some storage outside of the SSD though

>>59453190
I got a 2 tb on the way i was just impatient lol couldnt wait anymore

>>59453160

don't forget to order your beard oil you goddamn hipster

Posting from Australia. Here's my build that I want to use to run AAA games, including online multiplayer, and to run the Unity game engine and shit like the 3D modelling program Blender;
CPU; Intel Core i7-7700K 4.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (mostly for running a few important programs simultaneously)
Cooler; Corsair H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (not sure about liquid though, red pill me?)
Motherboard; Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory; Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Storage; Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Yes, I'm opting for HD and SSD rather than having to pick one)
PSU; EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (I see people ranting about overkill PSUs. Is 750 too much for what I'll be doing?)

>>59453290
All-in-one watercoolers are trash. Equivalent of worse to an aircooler, more expensive than a better-performing aircooler, and aircoolers have less parts to break. To get good AiO performance you'll need to shell out nearly $200 for your cooler and get a giant Kraken or something. Or get some EKWB waterloop parts and create a high-power custom cooling system (best performance)
I would just get an aircooler, that 7700k is not that hard to cool with a good aircooler like a noctua NH-D14 or something
That motherboard allows you to use speedy ram, get speedy ram if it's not a bad price (speedy ram may be a bad price right now desu)
Nothing wrong with overkill PSUs as long as you're not spending an insane amount on it

>>59453290
Z270

>>59453354
The corsair units beat air coolers, champ. Have a for long while.

>>59453290
Oh yeah, get Z270 motherboard unless you already have a working skylake CPU, or if you know how to slipstream a BIOS update without a CPU

did anyone try active cooling with a peltier cooler?

>>59453371
H100i
Show me
"Maximum performance" doesn't even beat the 140mm noctuas and are over TWICE as loud. I had an H100i actually, just like the 99% of gaymers who see "watercooling for $100!" and fall for stupid memes
Look up all the reviews you want, I welcome them actually
The H105i is loud, the H60 is shit, the H100i is loud and shit

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>>59453406
Google is hard kid

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>>59453465
Did I not just say the H105 is loud?
Sure you spin two fans at 3000rpm and you can cool anything

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>>59453465
Who's doing these reviews?

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>>59453495
>>59453518
Look at the kids cry and attempt to move goal posts. It's funny to me.

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>>59453532
I won't say anything, just read the reviews and you'll be cryin and denyin all night
>B-But muh CORSAIR cooler quality!
>L-Like all the pro gamers use them!

>>59453563
Maybe keep posting Corsair coolers that are over 5 years old, champ. Doing great for your argument,

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>>59453582
You haven't posted a single H100i benchmark, which was the cooler in question, you made the argument that "corsair coolers beat aircoolers, champ"
also that "THEY HAVE FOR A LONG WHILE" yet the NH-D14 has been beating the H100i in every benchmark old and new
Keep posting, you're loading me up with ammo

>>59453582
But corsair aios have been better than air for a long time you said?

>>59453610
I posted a better cooler.

I'm out. My argument was made and all your points are invalid or irrelevant.

>>59453641
>I ran out of benchmarks from this one 2012 website shilling a corsair cooler

Don't forget the NH-D14 costs $55 and the cheapest dual fan corsair costs $100, cools worse (>>59453518), leaks after a few years, breaks it's pump, and is several times louder
I know what I bought

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>>59452958
>founders

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What's the point in having fans suck air into the case?
Why not just have a CPU heatsink and fan + a bunch of holes to take air in / push air out?

>>59453921
Because when they try that it has worse temps

>>59453921
Because you want positive air pressure. Ideally, you have more intake than outtake, and the intake fans are all dust filtered. With negative pressure (what you're describing), are ends up coming in through cracks and your ports, which causes really fast dust build up.

>>59454061
But wouldn't the pressure stay neutral as long as there are holes through which it can suck in air?

>>59454111
You're missing the point, those holes will suck dust through, that's what "negative pressure" means, not necessarily some threshold of internal pressure that causes "positive" or "negative" but more about the effects of having more exhaust than intake. No it wouldn't "suck in dust from the cracks" but it sure as hell would suck in dust through the unfiltered intake
And again, open cases do exist and with less fans they generally tend to have worse temps than a properly fanned closed case

>>59454149
That makes sense. Thanks anon.

bretty happy with my new hyper tx3 evo, way less noise than stock amd cooler, and I overclocked my processor to 4.4GHz and even then my maximum temps are 10°C lower than before with stock clocks

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Just ordered this mount, shits going to be sweet.

27" 2560x1440 on bottom, 25" 2560x1080 on top. The actual widths of the monitors are less than 1/2" different, so it should mesh pretty well.

I put an FX-AM3+ cooler on my 1700X, but it's loud as hell, even at idle 50'c (according to AIDA64)
What's the deal with temperature reporting and cooling control? Are the X-sku's really set up for watercooling, and will it still be really loud with something like an NH-D15, or TC14PE?

>>59454426
you're that anon from the other thread that I made a drawing?

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>>59454435

>>59454435
amd cpus have shitty temperature sensors

try downloading speedfan, they were the most accurate temps i've ever got (a8 6600k here)

>>59454459
and yes, that is one of the worst stock amd coolers ever, sound wise

>>59454464
It's a 1700X, AM4.
Keep up with the times.

>>59454438

Indeed. Thanks for you input, it was a good idea.I actually found this mount while searching for something like what you drew.

The whole setup will be a little heavy considering it's going to be clamped to glass, but I'm going to reinforce it on the bottom side. Total weight of the two displays and the mount is less than 50lbs so it should be ok.

>>59454494
good luck then friend

First build, am I missing anything?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h7dtRG

>>59454487
did you seat the cooler/place thermal compound properly? you shouldn't be getting those temps since that cooler can dissipate way more tdp than that processor

>>59454483
I don't remember it being that loud on my 8320, even overclocked, but on the Ryzen platform, it sounds like it's going to fly away at stock.

>>59454435
I should explain.
I'm trying to hold out for a good watercooler, because there are no good 240mm coolers in my country that are compatible with AM4, but it's just too loud. I'm wondering if I can get a good air cooler for it that will be very quiet, but the tamp and fan control on the 1700X/1800X is apparently weird.

>>59454529
I put way more paste than I needed (I think), so I don't think so. I will check though.

>>59454557
clean up the surfaces properly, and make sure it's seated as well

that cooler shouldn't be running so fast, I had one shitty prebuilt that most of the time made a super loud but muffled noise, I cleaned and changed thermal paste and now it's completely silent again

>>59454524
You can probably drop down to a lower PSU if you want to save a few bucks.

Maybe invest in a better case?

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>>59452978
>>59452958
>he didn't mod his reference design nvidia card

fuckin pleb

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>>59454641
>reference cards

>>59454641
Looking for peripheries for a PC I'm getting from a buddy who just upgraded (3770 and a 770 if it matters). Plan on using it for general web use and light gaming. I'll refrain from asking about keyboards since I saw there's /mkg/, but wanted some opinions on:

Any recommendations for a basic mouse for <$100? Doesn't need to be anything crazy with 15 buttons, but just a solid, well-rounded one, preferably wired.

Any recommendations for a ~24"monitor. 1080p v 1200p? Don't plan on going for 4K due to some of the upscaling issues I've heard of (and don't really have anything that would use the resolution), but feel free to rec one if you feel strongly about it. Looking for something around $250 (would be willing to go higher, but I'd prefer two have a dual set-up with something bit more reasonable)

>>59454958
>>59454641
Ignore the quote.

>>59454587
Yeah... I was retarded and didn't clean with isopropyl. I also didn't have full coverage of the IHS.
After cleaning, it still idles 50-55'c, but doesn't sound like it's going to fly away when it's under full load.

>>59454990
I think you should get another cooler soon, I don't think 50c is good enough for idling, my 100W (stock) cpu that is overclocked doesn't go above 61c even in prime95, I have a hyper tx3 evo

your 95W cpu should be idling just around 3~5c above room temperature, specially with that 125W cooler

>>59455039
It's a 1700X, so I'm not sure what XFR is doing to the power draw. I want to wait for a good watercooler, or until people figure out what the deal is with fan profiles with the X SKU's are with the +20'c offset.

>>59455086
xfr only bumps one core to higher frequency in specific workloads, you shouldn't be idling so high

can you at least guess the room temperature?

>>59455117
> guess
I can do better than that. It's almost precisely 20'c.
AMD has stated that the reported die temp is +20'c over the real temp, but I'm not sure if my ASUS CH6 + AIDA64(only temp monitor that works for me currently) are compensating, and reporting accurately.

>>59455168
that could be it, in my a8 6600k speccy is saying that it's 30+ degrees higher than it actually is, i'm getting closer to real temps reading from speedfan and aida64 tho

>>59455238
I'm used to a similar problem with my 8320, but it reports accurately in most software when the core is above ~45'c.
A lot of software uses the socket temp instead of the core temp as that sensor is accurate at all temperatures.

>>59453921
What case is that? looks nice.

>>59455287
I don't trust the core temps, because they often get lower than room temp, looks like the socket temp is the only one that is remotely close to the real one, maybe a tad lower, but not too much, because my computer turns off if the processor gets above 74°C, I suspect that real temps are 1 or 2 degrees higher than reported when idling

>>59455366
The core temp is generally a sensor made to work most accurately EXACTLY at the thermal cutoff. The core temp sensor is "degrees away from 100°" not really accurate for normal loads, but reliable in the one situation when you *need* it to work

They only cards I can get in my country where they don't kill me with prices are: Nvidia 1060 3gb (Zotac, MSI or EVGA) or AMD 480 4gb (ASUS or Sapphire)

Which one would you people recommend? Currently on a 750 for reference.

Do EVGA cards use GeForce experience or is there a programs specifically made by EVGA for them?

>>59455481
I think PaulsHardware just made a video addressing this comparison specifically.

>>59455481
480
>>59455499
you use GeForce experience when you download GeForce experience

>>59455499
http://www.evga.com/precisionxoc/

>>59455504
Thanks, GeForce Experience wasn't detecting my card for a bit.

>>59455538
This only handles the LEDs and OCing right, and not the drivers?

>>59455594
Can you not just type in your card on nvidia website and click "download latest driver"?
You can even choose to not installed GeForce experience and not have your files scanned and your settings adjusted

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>>59455636
Everything is resolved, thanks.

>>59455538
Funny enough, steam has this available for download - and with achievements

Do we know when optane cache drives will actually be out? Interested to see real world benchmarks and price.

>>59455732
960 Pro is better than intels optane shit.

if optane is supposed to replace sata ssds, they're super fucking late to the party.

>>59455755
One of us is very confused about what Optane memory/storage is.

It absolutely could be me, but considering you're comparing tech that isn't out yet to something, I'm not so sure.

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Thoughts on both builds?

Purple build or cyan build?

>>59456031
Purple. For case, go with the define S or C, whichever one suits you best. For gpu, go ASUS or Gigabyte. For HDD, go toshiba

>>59454435

my i7 7700K was doing that you might have to reapply the thermal paste or adjust the heatsink by relieving pressure or apply more pressure, press down on it and check the temp to see if it stabilises. If that doesn't work your temp sensor is fucked.

>>59456080
>tl:dr
thanks though.

>>59455963
I know exactly what it is.

http://wccftech.com/intel-3d-xpoint-optane-ssd-benchmark/

>>59456070
I want a Define Mini C but sadly on the amazon of my country they are 100€.

I'll probably settle for the Fractal FD-CA-DEF-C-BK at 80€. A bit big but it should be fine.

Upgrading my 290. I play 1080p gaming and I want ultra settings at 1080p/60. This is imperative.

I'm trying to get the best card for this at lowest cost- so it's either the 480 8g or the 1060 6g. Which should I go for?

>>59457345
Not really worth upgrading to either, unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket.
You'd be better off going up to 1070.

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Hey guys, my current pc is going potato with my graphics going to shit so I'm planning on building a new pc with the current parts and I wanted to listen to suggestions since I'm going to use it for gaming mostly.
The reason I added a 2TB hard drive in there was just to give my current pc after a clean install to my friend who has none and just swap the current hard drives.

>>59457909
Would heavily reccomend an SSD, but otherwise, it's boring because it's good.

blue LEDs don't make your computer cooler faggot

just jumped up to a i7 7700 and gtx 1070. was hoping to do some testing by now but for some reason my music/porn drive got fucked up during the windows install so i've been sitting here running recovery programs on it for the last 10 fucking hours

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Is NZXT S340 a good case?

>>59458066
Thanks. I guess I'll stick with this build and go for it.
I was just avoiding the SSD mainly because of the price.

>>59458146
they are well worth it. got one a few years back and it's really amazing how much faster shit loads. honestly you don't even need anything high end just make sure it's a decent brand

>>59452622
Virtualization support maybe? We're all gonna need a win7x64 guest OS here pretty quickly anyway.

>>59449886
1050 will get ya there. But it's so crippled that any new release wont be playable on it. OP shouldn't have it on the list unless he states it's for mobas.
Get a 470 or 480. Be happy for several years with that.

>>59452622
There's more to motherboards than just the chipset, but essentially, yeah. Mostly just PCI lanes, and beefier VRM's for OC. The highest end boards also have external BCLK generators.

>>59457909

Why not go with a Z270 motherboard? Why not spend an extra $100 and get yourself a GTX 1080?

I tweaked your build somewhat. I believe this is a far better and more robust system for about 10% more money.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GKftRG

>>59449093
>>59449023
I've been using a VG248QE for the past 2 years. Excellent monitor, TN isn't that bad and is relatively cheap for 144hz. Though I'm probably going to get a 1440/144 at the end of the year, I'm too used to my rMBP that I use for school lol

>>59454483
Nice meme. I've used on on my 8350, honestly it's quiet as fuck. They are the best stock cooler I've ever come across. Massive chunk of copper that all the fins are embedded into and heatpipes. Really all that thing need was about a 10-20% increase in size and it would have been perfect to keep and overclock with. But for how compact it is and the heat efficiency its got, you can't knock it.

>>59458358
that's not the wraith, it's the other one

>>59458386
oh. Yeah, mine's got the other fan. Flatter fins. different locking handle too. Got it sitting on the back of my hand now.
Feels cool man.

>build high end PC
>play some unoptimized console ports
>fap to some 4K porn

yup, i really sure needed all that stuff and its "futureproofed"

r8 my build /pcbg/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lsvvhq

will be getting the R5 1500X when it comes out

>>59458591
I need Ryzen to decode my 10-bit chinese cartoons.

So is anyone else thinking about waiting for skylake X/E? I don't really think waiting another 5 and a half months is logical since the 5960x and the 6900k are marginally different but I still doubt whether I should buy a 1800x or not.

Quick question. Am I supposed to install all case fans to my motherboard, or would it be better to set them all up to the psu?
My case came with 5, and I have a z270 pc mate. That's not included my cpu fan.

>>59459479
You should connect them to your moherboard if you have empty headers. You could connect them to your psu via adapters but there's no reason to do that unless you are out of motherboard fan connectors since you lose fan control that way.

>>59459582
ok I think I have enough then.
So even if some fans has a both motherboard and a molex connector, I still don't need to plug it into the psu, just the motherboard?

Quick question.

Will a GTX 1050 GPU, H110M motherboard, and three monitor setup be mutually compatible? Or must I buy an H170M motherboard to detect three monitors?

>>59460230
google idiot

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what should my next upgrade be with these parts:
CPU: AMD A10-5800K
GPU: AMD A10-5800K
MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-F2A68HM-H FM2+
RAM: 16GB DDR3
STORAGE: 240GB SSD, 2 1TB HDD

>>59460338
sell the ram because ddr3 is kinda outdated

get a new motherboard, cpu and ddr4 ram of at least 3000mhz. cpu of your choice, intel/amd, whatever, and an actual gpu if you're going to play games

keep the ssd and the hdd obviously

if you don't say what you're going to use your computer for, I can't really recommend anything

>>59459643
you could, but there's no point if you already have fan connectors on the motherboard.

So I'm building a a4-6300 based computer(no hdd) for a family member, what's a good low wattage PSU that won't cause a housefire and last long?

Looking for a monitor for general use and some moderate gaming (mostly PoE) on an older system running a GTX770.

Is G-Sync actually something I should be looking for, and how noticeable is the difference from 60hz to say 120?

Seems like there are a lot of decent displays in the 1080-1440p range at <$250, but as soon as I filter by >120hz, IPS, G-Sync etc the price climbs rather significantly.

>>59460350
ddr4 is jewish deception anon

>>59460366
k thanks, Think I'm just going to run all the case fans through the PSU though, seems simpler that way.
They're cheap enough where I don't mind them running 100%

>>59458134
A great case. Very fun and easy to build in

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im building a PC for work and light gaming,
i have a 1050Ti with a Pentium G4560, so the qestion is: Will my old 380W PSU do the job?

>>59460499
i beg to differ. many benchmarks prove higher frequencies DDR4 do improve performance in games
I am sure they also benefit professional software too.

Should I change the fan of this build before I decide to buy? I don't know whether to cheapen out on the fan or fall for the liquid cooling meme.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9By79W

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HYPE

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Hi, Is this allright for pc to watch movies, edit video and make books in InDesign?
I have really tight budget.
Do I really need so strong GPU?

how the fuck do I know if a cpu cooler fits into a case?

>>59461932
math is hard

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>get everything finally set up
>plug in PSU to test
>it won't fucking boot or turn on
>switch outlets, flip switch, nothing. psu fan wont even spin
What a fucking hassle..knew I shouldve just bought a pre built.

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>>59462046

>>59462116
I wish it was..

>>59462046
Sounds like a 1D10T error. Check all cables and make sure they are seated correctly.

>>59462046
Well, the process is:

>get the case
>put in mobo + processor
>put in psu
>boot
>put in ram
>boot
>put in hdd
>boot
>put in everithyng else
>boot

That way you dont have to disassemble the whole thing looking for where you fucked up.

>>59462178
too late now, I don't even want to bother anymore

>>59460377
Pls resbond

>>59462046
Did you wire up the front panel cables properly ?

Did you read the mb manual?

>>59458303
I've been using this same monitor since December 2015 and I can't say really anything bad about it. Good 144hz monitor, not much else needs to be said.

>>59462256
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Power-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SDR4/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1489849474&sr=1-1&keywords=psu&th=1

>>59461196
Anyone?

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I have a first-gen i7 920 in one of the very first LAN party-inspired Thermaltake micro-ATX cases, so the cooling and layout was never really good and today it idles at 96 degrees Celsius and only gets hotter over the next few minutes. Trying to download a Windows update or even search for a Windows update now overheats it and it shuts down at 100-ish degrees on its own even after a full cleaning and reapplying the thermal paste (Antec with diamond particles). I've tried both the dot and spread methods for applying the paste but both still get similar temps. I'm using the stock cooler because the space is very tight so I can't just throw an H212 on it, but I have a standing fan that I blow directly into the case so that it hovers at 98 degrees, but even then sometimes it overheats anyway. The partially modular PSU sits right on top of the CPU, but it has no bottom or top intake fan, and the 60 mm exhaust case fanbehind the CPU melted so I removed it, basically turning the case into an oven except for the single 60 mm back case fan by the GPU and the front 90 mm fan that barely does anything because it's so far away from the components. There are lots of spare cables blocking airflow in front and sitting on top of the CPU cooler because the PSU is not fully modular, but they all can't be gathered in one place because they're daisy-chained to other cables that are required throughout the case.

a) Abandon the case and transfer all the components to a newer, bigger case.
b) Replace components and keep the case. (Replace missing back 60 mm fan, upgrade to fully modular PSU with intake fan, somehow find an old low profile/thin cooler for CPU)
c) Let it die.
d) (Other)

It's my first custom built PC so it has sentimental value and it still works fine, it just overheats to hell. It can still do Photoshop animation work and play games like Bioshock Infinite at 1080p so I don't want to just junk it. Is it natural for old CPUs to run hotter and hotter as they age?

>>59462299
Thanks

>>59462399
CPUs just work just like the day they where made till they die they really don't heat up more with age. You might have to replace the fans or get a new CPU cooler

>>59462399
Throw that fucking meme case in the garbage, get a small ATX, or mATX case.

PSU sits right on top of the CPU AND the fucking exhaust fan melted? Yeah nigga that aint normal.

When your fucking fan melts you should replace it, but since you're this far along might as well get a new case. I would say older computers run hotter than new ones but thats probably due to dust buildup and thermal paste hardening than anything else.

Also
>"""""Diamond Particles""""""
Cute man, real cute.

IF you dont want to replace the case, get another fan or maybe 2, and cable manage the shit out of it, spare cables need to be moved hidden not blocking airflow. Or get a better cpu cooler, just not a gigantic one.

>>59462482
First generation core series were made with voodoo magic.

is there a closed loop water cooler that is actually worth its money? kraken x62 looks nice

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>>59462524
Literally any Asetek rebrand is worth the money

>hurrr how do i tell

Does it have a round bump/block combo? It's Asetek

>Mines square tho

You fucked up and bought a CoolIt. Hope you feel bad now.

>>59462524
If you have the space for a big tower cooler (Noctua NH-D15 for example) no reason to spend the extra money on something thats not going to last, unless your really constrained on space.

>>59462579
according to tomshardware the kraken blows the noctua out of the water. my biggest concern is actually noise. I dont have any other preference

should I still wait for vega?

>>59462579
>AiOs
>not last

My last asetek lasted me 6 years, and it's STILL going strong in the build of the person I sold it to. It was on 24/7.

>>59462603
The Thermaltake Water 3.0 is pretty quiet. Especially if you put quiet fans on it. Just ignore the OEM branding. Corsair, Thermaltake, NZXT, none of that shit matters. If it's round, It's Asetek and it's good. If it's Square, It's CoolIt and it's cheap over priced garbage.

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>>59462630
>Thermaltake Water 3.0
has some rad leds kek

>>59462647
That's the Riing version. Get the non gamer shit.

>>59448933
>>59449071
Evga G2 is top tier, it uses a Super Flower base. Price is legit, gold went down in price, people use titanium and platinum now

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>>59462674
I think that looks pretty good.

>>59462395
Go with liquid cooling since it's a 7700k.

>>59462725
I have the 2.0 in my system rn, its superquiet.

>>59462747
does it fit on an am4?

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>cant buy water 2.0 anymore
>water 3.0 is shit in comparison
what do?

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i leave multiple programs open 24/7 and am too lazy to close them.

I run 2 nox emu for botting game with sikuli and overwatch is my main game

the usual torrents + chrome will always run at my background 24/7 as well

I'm currently sick of the mini stutters and lags that I get when I play overwatch with all my shit open in the back.

I'm looking to upgrade the cpu as I think that is the deciding factor but not sure if I want to go AMD again or intel this time. Not looking to get the newest stuff as I'm a poorfag neet, just want something that can accomodate the crazy multitasks I do with my pc

pic related, my rig, if I can retain my DDR3 ram that would be nice cause, again, I'm a poorfag neet and in Canada

How do I into activating windows 10 the /g/ approved way?

>>59448876
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jvdzjc
Any suggestions?

What's the best movies/facebook/email/office build for casuals that wont turn to absolute shit in a year?

I dont game on PC, but I need something for movie watching and general use that will last for as long as possible

I really want to go for the ryzen but the lack for faster ram speed and quadchannel puts me off.

>>59463129
>wont turn to absolute shit in a year?

ssd

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My PC has been running super hot for a couple years now (96C with games), and I feel it's nearing the end of its life, as just today it failed to start and had to repair itself. Five years old anyway, so a good time to upgrade. I'll be getting an SSD, and a new mobo, CPU, and GPU, everything else remaining the same (even my poor 500W power supply, unless you guys think otherwise). What's a good low-midrange combo of those? I'm thinking max $200 mobo, $300 CPU, and $300 GPU. I will also be buying a CPU cooler this time, stock clearly doesn't cut it.

>>59463334
I should also mention that I have a disc drive and two HDDs in addition to the SSD I'll be buying, so a mobo that can hold all of those internally would be ideal.

>>59463334
If it's running hot, then you can;
a)clean it out and remove all dust, i like to use an air compressor but its probably not very safe for the components
b)replace the thermal paste
If it failed to start and had to "repair itself" then it probably has more to do with your hdd. If you must upgrade, that much money could get you a k series cpu+mobo if you're willing to overclock + use the leftover for a gtx 1070(overkill for 1080p). I can't really guide you on if you should or shouldn't replace the psu but it couldn't be a bad idea to replace it.

I have an i5-7600K and a GTX1070. The recommended builds says that's good enough for 1440p 144Hz with Gsync, but I don't know what monitor to go for. Is the PG279Q the only choice, or are there other good monitors that fit this out there?

>>59463602
>a)clean it out and remove all dust, i like to use an air compressor but its probably not very safe for the components
>b)replace the thermal paste
I actually did both of those things. Thanks for the tips regardless, I will look into the k series. Never overclocked before.

I'm upgrading from an FX 8350. What would be an appropriate step up from a price performance standpoint? I'm thinking a 7600.

>>59463726
Forgot to mention, you can look at amd's ryzen 7, the cpu is expensive but it's offset by the cheap mobo.

Gonna buy a 1080Ti and a new monitor, atm I have a 1080p/144hz and a 1070
2 options 1440p/144hz or 21.9 1440p/ 100hz
Just want it for gaming, like the upcoming LOTR and some FPS, ligth college work


Also I'm looking to buy a 1Tb SSD, what brand should I get?

>>59458598
Bumpin

>>59463750
Your on tge right track. Maybe 6700 too but if willing to buy used or wait for a good sale

Am I the only one who doesnt have a case window and shiny LEDs?

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>>59466345
>Am I the only one

Not at all. I have no interesting in spending money on cosmetics for my pc. I am only interested in performance. I just received these parts in the mail yesterday, all except for the PSU and the two fans which are coming Tuesday.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xQNFqk

I plan to take pictures and post them to a /pcbg/ thread once I get the rig assembled. Nothing visually flashy about my build but I expect it to dominate every major gaming title out there at max settings (which, for me, means 1080p at 60 fps), and it will do so very silently and at very cool temps. That's all I that matters to me. Now, alternatively, my best bro spent somewhere around $5000 building a pc battlestation that looks absolutely amazing, pulsating LEDs, glows green and light blue and purple, three monitors, the whole thing. To each his own.

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>>59466345

why is the 1050ti not worthwhile for those outside of the US? it seems most people in this thread are saying the same

>>59450552
this picture will always make me mad

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Hey fa/g/gots

I want to upgrade my platform. I currently have a 2500K but my motherboard is dead. I could repair it or get another 1155 mobo off ebay but honestly I don't want to pour more money into a dead platform. The 2500K is nice and has served me really well and if it wasn't for the mainboard I'd have kept it longer, but whatever.

I have case + PSU + GPU + SSD etc. already, I basically need a CPU, a motherboard and RAM. Budget is about 500€, but I from selling the old stuff I can probably get 100-150€, so let's say a hard cap at 650€ (although 600 would be better for my heart).

Options would be either
>i7 7700K @ 362€
>Asus Prime Z270-K @ 150€
>1 stick Crucial Ballistix DDR4 2400 8GB @ 75€
= 587€

or
>R7 1700X @ 400€
>Gigabyte GA-AB350 @ 130€
>same RAM @ 75€
= 605€

I know the 7600K exists but I'm not going to pay 500€ to get another quadcore 5 years later. Either 8 core Ryzen or 4C+Hyperthreadign Intel.

Buying a single stick because I want to upgrade to 16gig in a few months time. But currently 8 is enough and RAM is the most easy part to upgrade anyway.

>>59465884

For your choice in monitors, consider the future performance of your current cpu+gpu. If you think your platform is going to run future games at around 144 frames per second, then your money will be well spent on a 144Hz monitor. If, in the future, you think your platform will deliver significantly less than 144 fps while gaming (100 fps or less) then it might be unwise to spend the additional cost on a 144Hz monitor.

Buddy of mine has this monitor, the Acer G257HU smidpx 25" -
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G2U48831
It has just an absolutely creamy and delicious picture. It is a 2K resolution IPS monitor with a 4ms response time but with a 60Hz refresh rate. Quite inexpensive as well.

Or, you can go with a 144Hz if you desire. I recommend these -
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#T=1,4&r=256001440&sort=a8&page=1&H=100,144
My next monitor is likely to be one of these, specifically the ASUS MG279Q -
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236466&cm_re=Asus_MG279Q-_-24-236-466-_-Product

My rig -
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xQNFqk

>>59462744
or just get a cpu that isn't a housefire

>>59462912
You need a new cpu, by extention a new mobo, and ram

If i were you id wait for the ryzen 5 6-core cpus witch should be out on april 11

>>59463018
here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tNbfCy

I know it raises the price by $450-500 but its way better, so hear me out

I was able to get you a significantly faster cpu, a significantly faster gpu, better/cheaper ram, a bigger hard drive, a seasonic psu, a 1440p ips 144hz monitor (that a 1080ti could defiantly drive), and a mechanical keyboard

>>59467016
>i7 and 1080
wew lad what a shit combo

ryzen 5 and 1080ti is better and costs about the same

Would an i3 7100 last for the next four years to get 50+ frames in most games? Or should I spend the extra $80 and get the i5 7500?
This is for an rx 480 4GB build, and I expect to be using this card for the next 4-6 years

>inb4 Ryzen
May the best man win, I might buy a similar CPU in a similar price range depending on what Ryzen has to offer.

>>59462810
You can get a bracket for it.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/am4-amd-retention-bracket-kit-for-hydro-series-coolers

>corsair

again, ignore branding. Round = Asetek

>>59467002
bump

btw is running a single stick of RAM instead of dual channel much of a noticeable problem?

And is the Asus Z270-K overkill for a 7700K?

>>59463603
>i5-7600K and a GTX1070
>1440p@144hz

LOLOLOOOLOL

Nigga I just bought a 1080 ti because it can *barely* do 1440p@144hz as a single card.

Get your head out of your ass and do some research. Fuck.

>>59467368
I will go with the 3.0 extreme. the ultimate doesnt fit into an atx midtower if I see it correctly.

>>59467409
That depends entirely upon which case we're talking about. There are several mid towers it'll fit in.

Define R5 comes to mind.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QYj79W

any suggestions for improvement? been thinking about replacing the Samsung SSD with a Crucial to save some $$

>>59467356
Ryzen 3-5 would be a way better value than a i5, and buying a dual core in 2017 is beyond retarded

>>59467393
Asus is total fucking trash, aside from that housefire cpu

>>59467396
and my 4 year old gpu still does 1440p ultra settings on anything that isn't ubishit

>>59467460
>Asus is total fucking trash, aside from that housefire cpu
o-ok so you'd recommend me to go with the 1700x?

>>59467339
>ryzen 5 and 1080ti is better and costs about the same
>ryzen 5
>meme 5

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-1800X/3647vs3916

>>59467460
Not at 144hz it doesn't you cunt waffle.

>>59467424
Im not so sure about it yet. I dont want one that is solid (as in good quality), as sound proof as possible, no gay side window, leds and other gay shit. ideally black.
atx form factor and a mid tower. budget is not really an issue.

PCs are gay

>>59467559
You literally just described the Fractal Define R5.

It's solid, quiet, no side window if you don't want one, solid black and plenty of modularity and good cable management. Check it out. I own one right now. Big fan of it.

You WILL Sacrifice the 5.25 bays to fit a 360mm rad though.

>>59467311
Everything is pretty much an upgrade but are you sure an r5 1400 is better than a i57770k

>>59467565
(You)
This

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>>59467583
that's where the cd drive goes, right? fuck that. if I ever need one again I buy a ubs one.
I was looking at the be quiet! Silent Base 800 earlier and this seems more ventilated. has like 5 slots for case ventilators. I wonder if this is better than some super strong cpu cooler

>>59467436
here i improved it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/phhJGf

>>59467709
That is not a mid tower lol

>>59467835
yes it is.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/BxrcCJ/be-quiet-case-bg002

>>59467543
>Userbenchmark
you obviously don't belong on /g/

>>59467547
not at 144fps but somewhere between that and 60fps, its called upgrade headroom moron, its higher than 60fps in your average triple a shit and can push 144hz in anything a little bit older or very optimized (like doom 4)

>>59467588
in anything mutlithreaded, its prob about the same if maybe 1-2% worse in single threaded MAYBE, but its $60 cheaper

>>59467709
>Silent Base 800
The lay out of that case is like the exactly fucking same as the Fractal Define R5. Down to the front fans, and right side mounted 2.5" bays lol

I wonder which ones quieter.

>>59468305
but it doesnt fit the water3.0 ultimate. at least according the specs

>>59468418
>water3.0
How about yo you stop buying closed loops you fucking /v/ babby

>>59458670
I remember back in the days Daiz made a 4K upscale of Hyouka's OP without audio and added grain to test decoding abilities of a device. It should still be available on Nyaa if the site is still up, I've been away from the anime scene for a while. What are they using today?

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>>59468503
>blows all the giant ass air cooler out of the water
>very quite
>doesnt put like 2kg on the motherboard
>reee you v baby
>i dont even play gaymse
why dont you get a life instead and let the adults talk

>>59468418
The Define R5 *will* fit a 360mm rad. You have to remove the 5.25 bays but it has room.


>>59468503
eat shit you tryhard faggot

>>59453160
I find those DIY builds so much more interesting than /guts/ RGB or matching colors cancer. I salute you.

How good is the Corsair 200R case? Should I get it over the Enthoo Pro M?

>>59468532
>>59468552

Why don't you stop being poor and buy a custom loop faggot

>>59468552
>>59468532
Noctua Air coolers and custom loops are both better

>>59461932
Maybe pcpartpicker.com will tell you if the cooler fits your case. "Assemble" your PC there.
>>59462926
Install win7 ultimate. Activate it with daz loader. Go to MS site and get the win10 upgrade for people who need accessibility options (look for it on Google). Upgrade to Windows 10. Your computer will be registered on MS servers. Now do a clean of win10 or downgrade back to win7 (in this case you will get a working key for it).

God I hate cell phones.

>>59468781
the water 3.0 gives the noctua a run for the money. maybe I can find a test ultimate vs noctua

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>>59448876
custom 1080 now or wait vor vega?
no ryzen and build x99 platform?

what monitor?

what do you think?

>>59468856
*pro I meant

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/tt_water3_0/4.htm

>>59468874
no ryzen, wait for the next 99 iteration coming second half this year

if you cannot wait, consider the 7700k just in terms of value

>>59468874
Ryzen and wait for vega

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>>59468986
>buy ryzen
>dont buy ryzen
>wait
>dont wait
how can I decide if there is no consensus ffs

>>59468986
fuck off shlomo, no one wants your shitty housefires

>>59468874
for monitor consider purpose

for colour consider:
Philips 276E6ADSS

with a hardware colour calibrator. get a Spyder4Pro used or the new one up to you and use open source software like displayCAL

its fantastic, i tell you what

if your more game/meme oriented look at:
ASUS PB287Q

>>59469009
Just get fucking ryzen and don't listen to the hebe intel shills and waitfags

they are both autistic

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>>59469017
your a fucking idiot

stock is good but undervolt and overclock and a hell of a chip is on your hands

>>59469024
what about the Asus PA329Q?

>>59469045
>JUST UNDERVOLT IT THEN MAYBE IT WILL COMSUME LESS POWER THAN A FUCKING AMD 8 CORE

even amd puts intel to shame just admit it intel fucking lost

>>59469038
or look at the context of your use case.

im sorry ryzen simply isnt that good in general terms

who the fuck cares what brand it is, its about the outcomes. for some ryzen makes sense for many it really doesnt

you fucking wierdos and your brand fetishes are just BIZARRE

Just built this for a friend who's mostly going to use it for 1080p WoW and CS:GO, did I do well?

>i5-7600K
>basic Z270 motherboard
>basic 12cm tower cooler
>8GB DDR4-2133
>RX480 4GB
>Bitfenix Nova
>Zalman LX 600W
>Kingston UV400 120GB
>Toshiba 1TB 7200rpm

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>>59468762
What is a "custom loop faggot"?

>>59469024
>>59468874
Im using pc mostly for gaming but also want to stream and edit videos and be future proof when games make more use of more cores. thinking of a 1440p ultra wide. everybody just seems to buy lg.

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>>59469045

>>59469074
no one said anything about consuming less power than X

undervolt brings wattage and temps down which is an objectively good thing. its a great chip, has nothing to do with anything else. why fucking push people into shit that may not fit there use case? it doesnt make sense to me

>>59469083
>im sorry ryzen simply isnt that good in general terms
>general terms
what your cherrypicked autism benchmarks, fuck off intel shill, o absolutely no one wants your shitty housefires

>>59469086
cant see any problems if the zalman is any good. mabe just spend a little more for better 80+ efficiency. also heard that the 6600k is better price performance

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>>59469052
looks amazing but size and certainly price are worth considering

i do photography and i dont have an infinite budget, i really like the phillips i mentioned. im usually zoomed in quite a bit for retouching and sharpness comparison. so the 1080 works just fine. I will say i do wish it was a little smaller but great value for colour accuracy, i think it tested greater than 99% adobe rgb

that said im probably going to order the ASUS PB287Q or similar for my primary day to day use screen

>>59469149
I already built it a week ago, the Zalman looks pretty decent on paper and it's a reputable brand... I actually didn't even notice it isn't 80+, as it was substituted in at the last minute.

The 6600K was pretty much the same price as the 7600K here so I decided to toss that in.

>>59469086
switch out the i5 for a ryzen 5 if you just want cheap shit for meme games like csgo or wow

>>59469093
>>59469107
autism

>>59469108
ITS A GREAT CHIP, DONT LISTEN TO THOSE AMD SHILLS SAYING ITS JUST A .2 GHZ OVERCLOCK OF A 6700K,

ITS 1% FASTER IN AUTISM SIMULATOR BY UBISOFT WHILE CONSUMING 90 WATTS MORE, AMD TRULY BTFO

no one cares about your overclocked 6700k shlomo, keep buying chipsets every year, keep being a cuck every year, keep being jewish

>>59469193
please buy intel

>>59469193
also feel like intel fucked me over with the 2011. 3 processors at the time it came out. intel made big plans. actually comes up with 2011-3. now I'm stuck with dead platform still only 3 processors for absurd prices. usb problems in windows 10 etc etc... feels bad man.

I'm looking to buy a monitor, but I have no clue how to pick it.

What should I read/consult?

Also I have 300 euros to spend, do you think I should get a nice 1080, or a 1440?

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>>59469357
why?

>>59469193
i love your non arguments. its a fantastic chip and a great value

first new computer ive built in 5 years and i dig it. i spent a lot of time choosing this config too

why you get so fixated on brands instead of objective performance and value is beyond me

>>59469366
why are you buying more than one processor for a given platform to begin with?

there should never be a time where you need to upgrade a processor without upgrading most the computer, if you cant afford it yout cant afford it and your wasting more money in the long run trying to buy cheap now and better later.

>>59469391
Because i said so

>>59469436
>i7 7700k
>great value

yea if you like housefires, stuttering, buying new chipsets every year

>i own it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias

textbook post purchase rationalization, i too own a intel cpu but im not a massive intel shill like you, i realize that the ryzen 7 is better than my 4790k in just about everything, only difference here is i had not opportunity to wait for zen

>>59462046
This is why I'm to scared to build my own. I'm a literal spastic and struggle with simple tasks like reading instructions to a microwaveable dinner.

>>59462046
>>59469724
How about going back to /v/ you fucking mongoloid

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>>59469573
there should never be a time where you need to upgrade a processor without upgrading most the computer.

this is actually a dumb argument.
if you think it should be like this why are mainboards and cpus even 2 seperate pats then? and why make ppl buy psus seperately or grapics card why not glue the ram to the mainboard out of the box?

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>>59469583
ryzen ist best cpu ever. intel is for limb dicks

>>59469788
Why pay twice? Why buy one cpu now only to plan to replace it by another? Why would you for example, buy a pentium only to replace it six months later with an i7?

>>59469954
good post pajeet

>>59469994
Because intel cucks are fucking stupid

>>59470058
Indeed, keep up the good work

So, I need to change my 8350 stock fan because it's noisy as fuck, as I expected.
I am thinking about getting a Cooler Master Hyper 212x. Am I doing it right or do you guys suggest something else?

>>59470102
>autistic shill stole my joke

>>59470143
>8350
no you need to get a new fucking cpu

>>59470180
>autistic shill gets pissy because other people stole his unfunny joke

>>59470210
>intel shills
>people
jews and poos aren't people anon

>>59470227
>jews and poos aren't people anon
indeed pajeet

>>59470195
Can't right now.
Planning on getting a new fan to use it when I get a new one.

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rate.
i was looking to stay under 700 dollars because i also need to buy a new monitor.
mainly for 1080p ultra/high settings

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Planning on upgrading soon. I was thinking a new CPU (and therefor mobo), but swapping cpus is always such a pain in the ass. Is an OS reinstall still pretty much mandatory?

Is my cpu even what would be bottlenecking me?

>>59470251
t. ramesh

>>59470324
>Wants to stay under $700
>buys intel
wait for ryzen 3 or buy a old/used xeon

>>59470356
Your cpu is fine, you can wit for the second iteration of zen, most of the bugs will be fixed by then, just let the early adopters do their work

>>59470316
I think a new cpu takes priority over a fucking fan, especially with that bulldozer trash

>>59470458
What do you suggest then?

I'm currently building a server with spare parts but I need to buy a hard drive. I will be using the server to store media and files and stuff like that. I know there are different types(like ones for NAS and WD blue and stuff like that). Which type of hard drive do you guys recommend for my server?

>>59470555
if you are the i7 3570k guy then
>wait for the second iteration of zen

if you are the bulldozer guy
>get a ryzen 7
or
>if you are a poorfag wait for ryzen 5 or 3