/pcbg/ - PC Build General - Green Versus Red edition

>>59471255
>>59471240

forgot to mention that I'm alsolooking to get 2 3tb toshiba hdds and if anyone got opinions on the p300 model.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/apks94/saved/w3K23C

Looking to build a Plex Server/NAS for about 2-4 users streaming. I was also looking at maybe getting a Ryzen Cpu once there is a decent ITX board available. May take awhile... I wasn't planning on using ECC memory, but I can switch it up if it's absolutely mandatory. Suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xxjQxY

How does this look, especially the case. Want something that isn't "gaymur" and has no side window. Am planning on getting Ryzen 1500X.

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>buy Maxwell card
>nVidia releases new architecture and die shrink the next year

Why did I fall for the Maxlell meme?

I'm currently building a server with spare parts but I need to buy a hard drive. I will be using the server to store media and files and stuff like that. I know there are different types(like ones for NAS and WD blue and stuff like that). Which type of hard drive do you guys recommend for my server?

>>59471368
sell it and buy a new one.

Should I get a 1050 Ti or 460?
Latter is cheaper, though, and I'm a casual PC gamer on 1080p

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Rate my build, anon.
Should I wait for Ryzen 3 to make this build cheaper?

>>59471419
This. Normies aren't redpilled on the gimping of Nvidia. You could probably sell it for close to the retail price.

>>59471642

What is amusing is the 480 (and later, 1060) effectively gutted the used market but still people tried to sell their 780's, 970's and 780ti's for way more than they are worth entirely because "muh nvidia".

Its like they learny nothing from the 290x basically halving the value of the OG titan overnight.

>>59471358
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xxjQxY
looks good

>>59471334
>plex
nice meme faggot streaming is gay

>>59471634
yes, wait or get some old xeon

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so im about to order the build here https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/kpJ7YJ/modest-gaming-build

general thoughts? is there anything else i might need for this? first build for me

i see mentions of antistatic wriststraps but in every build video i see they are non existent

also does this mobo have wifi onboard

pls help

So is there ANY indication on when the rest of the X370 boards will be back in stock?

>>59471688
Its a choice now. You either pick a good brand from AMD and stick it out for 4+ years. Or you get an Nvidia card and either use an upgrade program, or sell your card and get a new one every 2 years.

I was so convinced that I would get a Vega card when it came out, and bought a 480 as a stop gap to replace my 7970GE now. But I just don't know anymore. The 480 is really nice.

>>59471255
Is a 7600 (Non K) a good upgrade from a 4460?

PC is for gaming, country is Canada.

I want to improve the current specs.

>>59471911
no

>>59471924
What would you recommend over it?

>>59471911
lmao, CPU for gaming

I'm still running on an i5 3570 from 4 years ago
Still runs anything I want perfectly.

I can't believe people actually get shilled into falling for the i7 memecores meme.

>>59471952
It's not a bad choice. It might be worth the effort to get a K part and overclock it, however.

You say you WANT to improve your specs, when your current CPU is pretty good as it stands. It would be better if you already had an overclockable CPU. The best recommendation is to get a K intel CPU. AS even if you don't overclock it, you can in the future if you find your performance is aging.

In summary: Get a 7600K at the very least.

>>59471784
I cant believe all that cost 1000 dollars
who is in charge of that blog!

>>59471784
>>59472064
ok man, if you are really going to spend 1100 dollars, I tweaked the list.
I only used NCIX like the blogger did, and I managed to get you:
a chip that can overclock
a watercooler
and a z270 board
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Kpcrnn

>>59472222
sounds good
also would it be better to have 2x4gb of ram or is 1x8gb stick equally acceptable

>>59472289
since you arent going for every scrap of frame possible, 1 stick of RAM will totally work
the reason you use 2 is to take advantage of "dual channel"

I'm building my first PC and the cpu power cable won't reach if I go around the back, it only fits if I run it straight up.

Is this bad? It's kinda close to both the cpu fan and the rear case fan.

>>59472994

I assume your psu is at least semi-modular. Run your cpu power cable how you can for now, then order yourself a longer cpu power cable and run it up the back.

Gib criticism
>inb4 rx480
Just no ok
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/FYrt6h

>>59473135
>buying windows

>>59473145
Being a goy is better than being a nigger

>>59473135
>paying more than $60 for a fucking keyboard and mouse

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I want to build a budget pc (700-800 dollaroos) and already bought a case (http://www.corsair.com/en-us/carbide-series-200r-compact-atx-case) and I;m not sure if I got memed on.
I want a PC that can just focus on running games smoothly, I don't need no 1080p or 4k shit, just a pc that can consistently run at 60fps, I just finally want to be able to play Overwatch with my friends (who game on PC).
Anyway I was wondering if this is a good guide/build to follow: http://www.logicalincrements.com/
I'm following the "Superb" build.

I just want to make sure I'm not getting memed on before I build my first PC and finally be able to play "next-gen" games (last console I bought was PS3).
Like I said I just want a PC that can run games smoothly and something that just works, no need for max settings n shyyt.

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>>59473179
Then this little nigga is your friend.

>>59473166
Alright, you got me there. Can you give me some recommendations for a mouse? I dont want trackball, and i dont want too many sidebuttons.

>>59473192
are you memeing me or can I trust you?

>>59473220
I wouldnt trust the msi branding. Get something from the likes of gigabyte or asus. Whatevers cheaper

>>59473220
Not memeing. 1050 Ti is the king of budget cards and runs most current games at 1080p 60fps

It's even an overkill card for Overwatch. And it's around $130-140 USD, very low power consumption, and doesn't require 6-pin connector. Just insert into the board and done.

>>59473241
???
MSI is a really good brand.

Zotac and PNY are the shady ones.

>>59473268
>zotac
>shady

lmao PNY is ok too, stop memeing

Need GTX 1070 to game on 4k 50" @60 hz, which some are OK with

>>59473135
>>59473145
>>59473166
Reading this, im assuming that i did gud in the hardware, and mediocre in the peripherals/software

>>59471784
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/kpJ7YJ/modest-gaming-build
I'd wait on ryzen 3 or 5 to make it even cheaper

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>>59473242
what motherboard should I get?

http://www.logicalincrements.com/ considers the GIGABYTE GA-Z270-HD3, MSI Z270-A PRO and ASRock H270 Pro4 "superb".
Are they actually good, or are there better I can get within the same price range as those?

Also not sure what GPU to get, I'm a complete noob to this shit.

>>59471787
not really, should be soon considering ryzen 5 is the mainstream ryzen cpus and by extension will prob be the best selling ryzen cpus

>>59471911
no just keep the 4460

>>59473135
>i7
why?

>>59473192
that things shit

>>59473413
Never go msi, and always choose gigabyte over assrock. If you want overclocking, its a tie between asus and gigabyte

>>59473413
Well, that depends. 1155 socket is outdated, 1150 is on its way out, so 1151 is the standard today. If you don't mind shelling out some extra bucks for 1151 and a 6th gen Intel, go for it, but CPUs are overkill for what you want, so you can go for a 1150 socket and 4th gen i5 and save some cash. You really are not going to notice a difference if you just light game.

>>59473438
>>i7
>why
Why not. I was thinking of going with the 6700K, but i dont know what i would be losing

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>>59473292
MSI has the best 1050 Ti versions. It's not up for debate. Their overclock is the best around.

>>59473413
How about not buying a fucking babby lake, newfriend

>>59473490
I was hoping you faggots could help me with that

>>59473459
Because its no different then the i5 in gaming because gaming doesn't use hyperthreading, and if you need hyperthreading then you should get the ryzen 1700

The funny thing about /g/ recommendations for brands is they're always completely wrong.

For example in 2016 it was MSI that had the lowest rate of motherboard failure, I think. ASUS had the highest.

In power supplies it was Seasonic that had the highest rate of failures with EVGA having the lowest.

This is all adjusted for marketshare btw.

But keep in mind that none of the above had over 2% failure rate, and the differences were in the 0.2-4% range between brands.

>>59473488
the 1050ti is garbage, the RX 470 is better

>>59473521
470 is not a budget card, bud.

>>59473518
Because half of the people hare are paid shills

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>>59473521
Why are you comparing the 1050 Ti to the 470?
The 460 is the 1050's competitor, and it's worse in every way to the 1050.

Or should I compare the 1060 to the 470 too?

>>59473528
the 470 is almost the same price as the 1050ti and way faster, besides anything slower than a 470 is shit and not worth it

>>59473552
>1060 price: $250
>470 price: $150
>1050 ti price: $145
>460: $95

do you see the problem with your """"""argument""""""

>>59473599
>>59473552
Forgot the 1050 but its $110 and only SLIGHTLY faster in outdated dx11 shit, its slower than the 460 in dx12 and vulkan

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>>59473599
1060 is $185.

Why the fuck would I get a 470 then? The cheapest one is $155.

>>59473624
>3gb
>mini itx
>"""'""""""""1060""""""""""""""
that thing is fucking horrible and is false advertising

>>59473639
Very nice damage control, my man. :)

And yeah, 3GB and still performs better than the 470 at 4GB

>>59473624
>$155
yea and the cheapest 1050ti is $15 cheaper, stop trying to move the goal posts the 470 is significantly better than the 1050ti

>>59473647
while stuttering because no modern game uses less than 3 gb anymore
4gb is a bare fucking minimum for modern gaming at ultra and even then its not enough for some games

>>59473653
470 requires 6-pin connector and consumes more power.

>>59473599
>>470 price: $150
where

>>59473668
maybe because its more powerful

>>59473647
>3GB and still performs better than the 470 at 4GB
lol no

>>59473695
https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Radeon-RX-470-ARMOR/dp/B01N3TCNNW/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1489901770&sr=1-1&keywords=rx+470

if you get a rebate its $140, cheaper than the 1050ti

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>>59473735
>And yeah, 3GB and still performs better than the 470 at 4GB
i forgot my image

>>59473746
rofl

https://youtu.be/AMutEI-bLqo?t=49s

>>59473766
>annoying electro shit """""""""music""""""""""
>from a channel ive never heard of
>only testing games with gameworks and are deep into nvidias sponsorship program
how long did you look for this benchmark to confirm your bias

>>59473801
Sorry, sweetie.
Is this better?
https://youtu.be/2R76wLCxRXY?t=1m46s

>>59473830
>>59473766
Use a real channel you faggots.

Not that guy and not even clicking on your shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNNRGH3gMvg

Best $60-$80 case one could get for a starting/first build?

>>59473830
its a moot point, the 1060 3gb will hit its frame buffer before the 470 and stutter, id take something 2% slower if i get 2% slower consistently instead of stuttering

Opinions on this case?

I plan to do stupid water cooling ricer shit.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Chassis/Cube_Case_/Core/C_00003042/Core_X5_Tempered_Glass_Edition/design.htm

>>59473873
>falling for the water cooler meme
>when CPUs are getting cooler and cooler each time

>>59473855
thats not the 3gb 1060 though

>>59473881
only the amd ones are, intel cpus are still firmly housefires that require a massive air cooler or watercooling or a delidding

>>59473881

Ever hear of GPUs, bro?

>>59473897
They are also getting cooler, retard. And they have their own fans which are more than enough.

>>59473882
Well look at it this way, the 3GB can't possibly perform better than the 6GB and the difference between the 470 and 1060 6GB is pretty damn small, so why the hell would you get the 3GB?

>>59473881
Because it fucking looks cool

Also getting the Trident Z RGB with the Crosshair VI Hero because I hate money and myself.

>>59473902
>And they have their own fans which are more than enough.

Which sounds like a fucking jet engine.

>>59473905
>and the difference between the 470 and 1060 6GB is pretty damn small

You mean 480.
There's a huge, gaping difference between 1060 6gb and 470

>>59471970
Hey anon, if I'm going to be simultaneously running stuff like Blender and the Unity engine, would the i7 help much or still overkill?

is this a good GPU?

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-06G-P4-6161-KR/dp/B01IPVSGEC/?tag=logicaincrem-20

>>59473914
>getting ram just because of mu leds
you need to be 18 or older to post on this site

>>59473919
If you're gonna be multitasking and doing shit in the background while gaming, then yeah, get an i7. Otherwise, don't bother.

>>59473933
Look we can't all live with Kingston ValueRAM

>>59473924
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01J8CCUL2/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

here this is better and cheaper, XFX binning this generation has been pretty solid

>>59473919
If you're doing that shit you should get a R7 1700. Virtually identical performance and price, with cheaper and longer lasting motherboards.

>>59471634
get an SSD, no matter how small, to keep your OS on. you will be one million percent happier.

>>59473949
or you can just get something that doesn't look like a pride flag and demand a premium for looking like a faggot flag

>>59473919
Yea if you do things with blender i would recommend you look into ryzen and get whichever one agrees with your budget.

>>59473953
shiiiiiid I think I'm going with this

thanks famalam, hope you're not just shilling

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>>59473963
So what you're saying is get some modules with GREAT FLAMING EYEBROWS

>>59473977
or a robot cat

>>59473976
well if you want to try your luck with those gook sellers go ahead

>>59473963
but seriously the premium is only $20 for the bay area touch. you need RAM with samsung b-dies on Ryzen to hit 3200MHz, which means CAS 14 is a must.

>>59473998
getting it on newegg

>>59474002
id just get the gskill shit that is certified for ryzen

>>59474013
whats the price on it there?

>>59474036
259

what's the best graphics card to pair with an old core2quad q9550 without bottlenecking and would it be able to play modern games on low at 768p?

>>59474084
id buy it on amazon instead then, its cheaper there

>>59474113
a rx470

>>59474157
but newegg is more reliable than a random amazon seller

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0ZX57D0886

oh god why do i want this

>>59474181
no its amazon themselves selling it for $239

>>59474187
Ew what the fuck is that

>>59474187
because you're retarded

>>59474198
comes with a DOOM code on Newegg though

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>>59473179
RX470 $165

Newegg.com
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202271&cm_re=RX_470-_-14-202-271-_-Product

>>59474208
Not that anon but curious, is the XFX GTR the best RX 480 model on the market or is there other ones worth looking at?

>>59474199
Back when the thing first launched years ago it seemed stupid and insane. But now that we have M.2 boards and watercooling is becoming more mainstream, it's starting to make more sense, since all the HDD bays and shit that we don't even have to use anymore are in a totally separate enclosure.

only problem is it's not sealed and dustproof.

>>59474231
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWASNajSdpg

>>59474231
yes the XFX ones are the best this generation

>>59474208
Well if you want doom 4 then get it on newegg, the multiplayer is pretty dead but its pretty goodbut the single player is really fun

>>59474258
When I looked on Newegg the cheapest one came with Doom anyways, so its not like you are losing anything.

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I figure if I'm multitasking I'll need i7. But with that and 2 GPUs, do I need a better cooler?

>>59474252
Such a sexy card

>>59474270
Where do i begin wit this fucking thing

if you need something for multithreading the ryzen 1700 is significantly better than the i7

dont SLI the 2 1070s just get one 1080ti

That memory is absolute shit, get some 16gb 2800mhz gskill ripjaws V

asus motherboards are trash

>>59474296
>That memory is absolute shit

False

>>59474315
Its slower than my ddr3, its garbage

>>59474335

RAM is overclockable you fucking moron.

>>59474270
If you're gonna shell out, get some higher freq ram, 3000mhz or higher.

>>59474296
>the ryzen 1700 is significantly better than the i7
This meme again

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is this shit good enough to run modern games like Overwatch, Witcher 3, Civ 6 and shit at a consistent 60fps at 1080p?

Rate it faggots, I'm trying to stay within the 700-800 range

>>59474358
Just get the shit pro overclocked so you don't have to roll dice in the silicon lottery

>>59474367
i said in multithreaded you autistic faggot, not that its really much different in single threaded either

>>59474392
>pro overclocked

Lol

>>59474384
actually meant to put i5 6500 (cheapest one)

>>59474384
yea it will do that, if you want to shave some more money off the price you could wait for the ryzen 5 1500x to come out, should be the same as that i5 but cheaper

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>>59474384
YES

>>59474384
Ditch the 480 and get 1060 instead.

>>59474398
its a typo i meant pre overlcocked

>>59474416
why tho?

>>59474415
s-so it's actually a decent build?
I was expecting to get shit on

>>59474427
because hes a nvidia shill, the rx480 is fine don't listen to that faggot

>>59474296
>asus motherboards are trash

explain, because i'm pretty sure you're full of shit here.

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>>59474427
Because the 1060 is better for the games you want.

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>>59474427
First off those people who fight over Intel vs AMD vs Nvidia are retards, don't ever become one of them. Second, Yes that's a good build. I would pretty much go the same route.


Pic: Random

>>59474418
>pre overclocked

Lol

>>59474440
I bought one and it came broken, my friend recently bought a kaby lake one and it came to him broken as well.

ive had problems with every single asus product ive ever bought, they are fucking trash

>>59474449
what resolution is the guy who took the screenshot playing at though?

>>59474449
>cherrypicking
fuck off poojeet

>>59474456
>being autistic

>>59474466
>guys I want to play Witcher 3
>show Witcher 3 benchmark
>DUURRR CHERRYPICKUN XDD

>>59474462
max settings, 1080p, no hairworks.

Recommend me a PSU and a GPU that won't rape my power bill. No AMD garabage tho, I'm done with them.

>>59474478
500w
1050 Ti

>>59474478

Also no XFX shit, I'm done with them and their cheap $2 chinese fans on a $400+ GPU that die after a few months.

>>59474473
not the bench that scene that makes the 1060 look far faster, you picked it solely to make the 1060, you are a fucking marketer, fuck off

>>59474478
>>59474496

EVGA 500w, can't go wrong here.
Gtx 1050 ti, 75w consumption, doesn't even require 6pin cable

>>59474478
>>59474485
>>59474496
>the nvidia marketing team arrives

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>>59474509
if I wanted to do that, I would have shown this pic instead.
Fuck off, AMDrone

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>>59474449

If OP is only going to be playing Witcher 3 then yea get a 1060. What happens when Witcher 4 comes out running DX12? 1060 is not so good with DX12. By all means fanboys push him to get the 1060.


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>>59474514
1 rupees has been deposited to your designated bank account

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PGhLHN

pls r8 my full RGB build.
pic related (unfortunately doesn't have the whole build in it though)

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>>59474536
>p-please buy the 460 guys, i-it's not a piece of junk, I swear

>>59474525
>AMDrone
go back to the containment board newfag
>>>/v/

>>59474542
>RGB
>ASUS
>INTEL i7
>Pride flag memory
>WD 5tb

absolute trash

also i noticed how the unique ip count hasn't gone up as you posted, fuck off samefag

>>59474514
>>59474485
>Gtx 1050 ti
>75w consumption

Wow, I'm sold. Fuck AMD and fuck Radeon people.

>tfw my piece of shit R7950 never worked as it should, even my old low tier Geforce 210 was more reliable and didn't assraped my PSU

>>59474547
t. autistic poojeet nvidia shill

>>59474564
Ok? There are 30 fucking people in this thread, I hope you realize that people can post multiple times right?

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XFX 480 GTR W3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecqqjRt-0hk

What ever you choose OP fuck these guys and enjoy your game!

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>>59474565
o-oy vey, but AMD cards are cheaper, goyim...
th-thnk about DX12 and vulkan!!

>>59474565
>>59474514
>>59474485

nice samefagging cuck

get lost

>>59474587
shecklestein projecting

>>59474581
fuck off samefag, get out

Also thinking about upgrading my CPU, I have an old Intel i5 2500k. Is there a decent alternative to replace it without having to buy a new Mobo?

>>59474596
Who the fuck would I be samefagging? Fuck off.

>>59473518
>In power supplies it was Seasonic that had the highest rate of failures with EVGA having the lowest.
I made the right decision then.

>>59474608
i7 3770k

>>59474588

If there's a better card with more performance and less power consumption feel free to name it.

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>>59474565
Fuck off, both my 7950's work well

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>>59474582
>80°C

>>59474610
Becuase you have severe autism

>>59474630
Ignore that cuck, its just a nvidia marketer from india too poor to ever afford a gpu like

>>59474615
>costs more than $1000

wew lad, looks like I won't be upgrading in a while. Would it be cheaper to buy a current Mobo and CPU?

>>59474496
Nigga what. XFX has the best warranty on any AMD card. Go RMA that shit.

>>59474639
I believe the shitposting general is that way, retard

>>59474621
RX 470

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Radeon-RX-470-ARMOR/dp/B01N3TCNNW/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1489909045&sr=1-2&keywords=rx+470

$139 with rebate

>>59474649
i believe the nvidiot cuckshed is that why
>>>/r/nvidia

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>>59474630
>MSi

I bought mine from XFX, maybe that's why it never worked properly. But then again, pic related always gave me a headache.

>>59474641
what?
the 3770k is like 5 years old. Where the fuck are you looking? It shouldn't cost more than $250

>>59474542
>7700k with AIO cooler
>GTX 1070

Your priorities are ass backwards as fuck.

Get a ryzen 5 1600 when it comes out with a Crosshair VI Hero (literally the same MB just for AM4), OC that bitch to 3.9 on the stock cooler like every other ryzen chip, and that'll save you enough dosh to spring for a 1080Ti.

>>59474666
wow never seen that shit at all, go away nvidia marketer

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>>59473855
>>59473882
>>59473905
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R76wLCxRXY

1060 == 480

>>59473746
>amd optimized game
nice try amdrone

>>59474651
What's the matter, AMDcuck?
Where is the 460?
Why are you linking a card with 120w instead of 75w?

>>59474651
>RX 470
>slightly better performance
>but twice the power consumption

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>59474651
>$139 with rebate
only burgers can claim rebates.

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I am seriously torn between two cases.

On the left, the Phanteks P400TG. On the right, the Phanteks Pro M Acrylic.

Same price, same basic design philosophy but a few key differences.

Advantages of the P400TG:
>Tempered glass side-panel - more resistant to scratches, easy to clean and superior aesthetically
>Built in LED controller with an included LED strip
>Cleaner interior design

Advantages of the Pro M:
>Optional HDD bracket for a third HDD under the shroud
>Optical bay
>Front panel controls on the windowed side of the case for convenient access

It's form against function. The P400 looks way better but the Pro M has a more versatile layout.

What do I do?

>>59474676
Yes but the 470 also == 480.

The 480 is not good but the 470 is 10% slower and 50% cheaper

I'm upgrading my PC from 2500k to 7600k is it ok game dev? thinking of using unreal engine 4 or unity

>>59474710
Tower 900

But seriously, it depends on if the LED is RGB and controllable through Aura and whatever the fuck MSI and Gigabyte have that's the same damn thing. If it isn't, it's in the way and the Pro M is automatically better.

If it is, i'd go P400TG because tempered glass is pretty boss.

>>59474710
I was stuck between that same decision (ultimately sprang for the Corsair 200R but that's besides the point). I would personally get whichever is cheaper. They are both good quality cases, one just has the jacks and USBs on the side while another has it on the top. Really up to your preference on where you want to plug in your stuff. The P400 also doesn't come with things in its bays for HHDs and SSDs, so I would go for the Pro M.

>>59474710

There's a tempered glass version of the Pro M.

http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Pro-M-TemperedGlass.html

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>>59474367
>Thinking babby lake is anything short of absolute shit
top cuck

>>59474733
>if you are actually doing work instead of just GAYMES then ryzen would be better than a i5

>>59474709
still about as cheap as the 1050 ti with out the rebate and far faster

>>59474692
it doesn't stop falling for memes

>>59474684
if you care so much about power consumption then why haven't you bought ryzen yet?

>>59474757
>lelzen

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>>59474637

>>59474771
Because CPUs are hilariously stagnated that my 3rd gen i5 is still good.

>>59474778
>posting memes instead of an actual argument

get out you pathetic intel fanboy/shill

>>59474733
No, you're gonna need MOAR CORES(tm). Get a R7 1700.

>>59474781
in an effort in trying to prove that AMD cards aren't housefires, you proved that the 1060 has significantly higher fps. You just played yourself.

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>>59474788
>3rd gen

get on my level

>>59474781
LOL NVIDIA HOUSEFIRES

>>59474788
and ryzen is far more efficient, so do you only use the "muh power consumption" """"""""argument""""""""" only when it suits you?

>>59474808
>while being a housefire

>>59474808
>While being a housefire
>While being at 2ghz
>While consuming more power

>>59474736
>it depends on if the LED is RGB and controllable through Aura

It is.

>>59474737
>I would personally get whichever is cheaper

They're the exact same price.

>one just has the jacks and USBs on the side while another has it on the top

Jacks on the side are convenient since I use a wired controller for emulators but is it a deal breaker? That's the question.

>The P400 also doesn't come with things in its bays for HHDs and SSDs

The TG version comes with brackets for both of the SSD mounts, while the Pro M only has one bracket to three mounts. Neither case comes with the modular HDD brackets but since a front-mounted radiator blocks all of them that's fine with me.

The big advantage of the Pro M is the extra drive space. Both cases come stock with two HDD bays, but the Pro M has a spot to put an additional drive next to the PSU. That's handy, because my 2TB is getting full and I'd like to get another one, as well as a 4TB drive for media storage. But with the extra SSD bracket in the P400 I could fit a 2.5" 4TB in there and still have room for two 3.5" drives, and calculating the cost of the extra HDD bracket and an LED strip it's higher than the premium for the 2.5" drive over a 3.5" drive.

So it's all a fucking wash. I'm very conflicted.

>>59474740

I know but it's $20 more than the P400 and pretty much outside my budget (to be frank, both of these cases are stretching my budget already).

>>59474771

Power consumption is a deal breaker for me, there's no point on replacing my PSU-raping HD7950 with another power hungry card that barely overperforms it.

>>59474830
I would just get the Pro M. Unless the tempered glass window is something you absolutely need.

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>>59474825
>>59474819
>While consuming more power
AMDRONES ARE THIS DESPERATE

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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But seriously is there a case as beautiful as The Tower 900?

I love the three glass sides and hidden areas, but it's goddamn 54 fucking lbs and I could fit my dog in it.

>>59474841
then by ryzen then you faggot, consumes less power then intel while having twice the amount of cores

>>59474673
Thanks for the advice. Changed the GPU. Will wait for R5 though and get a 1500X or 1600 though.

>>59474841
>Power consumption is a deal breaker for me
Then get the 1050Ti.

>>59471547
1050. Or 470, if your PSU can handle it.

>>59474864
wow it found a way to be hotter and consume less power, leave it to nvidia to make housefires more efficient

>>59474871
>more is better
It doesn't work like that you faggot

>>59474876
Wait for reviews and benchmarks.

>>59474811
I had sandy vagina i5, but it was too hot, so I sold it and bought a 3570 instead. Pretty much capped my socket already, and just werks for me.

>>59474884
doesnt matter the 8 core ryzen still has lower power consumption than a 4 core i7, come on now explain that one, you dont give a shit about efficiency you are just using it as a way to rationalize your brand loyalty to nvidia

>>59474886
Reviews and benchmarks are already out.

Disable 2 cores in Ryzen 7 = Ryzen 5.

>>59474886
Definitely will. I usually don't preorder hardware (especially processors) anyways and given the response that R7 got it looks like I just have to wait a couple days or so until proper benches are out.

>>59473624
3gb 1060's have gimped clocks and are way slower. You're getting fucked if you buy a 3gb 1060.

>>59474900
>implying I'm that anon
Any logical person would prefer performance to price you cum guzzling retard.

>>59474886
why bother all the reviewers are massive intel shills anyways and will try to make single core look like its everything and downplay ryzens advantages as much as they can possibly get away with

>>59474923
t. amd-paid poojeet

>>59474920
>trying to weasel your why out of an argument you lost

massive cuck, rx470 is better than the 1050ti and you cant argue it other than "muh power consumption" or "muh nvidia"

>>59474906
>proper benches

good luck with that one. benchmarks have been an absolute shit show with 90% of the reviewers purposely skewing shit in Intel's favor and the other 10% benchmarking crap nobody will ever do. Who the fuck games at 720p?

A proper benchmark would have both games using a 1080Ti, both setups using 16GB of 3200MHz RAM at 14 CAS, on Windows 7 or Linux WITH the latest kernel that just came out last week, on games that were not compiled with ICC. So basically we're not getting it.

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>>59474808
>>59474819

>>59474935
t. autistic ramesh

>>59474941
Or you know, you could just ask people you know who aren't fucking retards for information.

>>59474936
>>59474920
Christ guys it's not that hard.

Progression goes
460
470
1060
Don't spend your fucking money at this tier you moron
1080Ti

>>59474956
Actually I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPmxoAqEo20

TLDR less jitter

>>59474962
>intel-shill leaves 480 out of that chart
wew lad how is that jew money?

>>59474949
truly a fine feature, i will always buy nvidia for this

>>59474970
Because the 480 is virtually identical to the 470 at twice the price. It's a very bad card that nobody should get.

>>59474962
shit guide

>>59474883
>amdrones now have selective vision to the truth

Just like clockwork. Why don't link me that ONE review by joker which happens to paint ryzen in a good light while your at it.

>>59474923
>all the reviewers are massive intel shills
laughable.

>>59474906
Depends on how long you want to WAIT(tm). I was thinking about getting the R7 1700, but now I have decided to postpone my upgrade till Ryzen 2nd or 3rd gen CPU's comes out

>>59474990
Except that's objectively wrong and you should stop spreading misinformation to get people to buy jewvidia

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAbl0fLY06U

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>>59474962
>460

>>59474997
I will most likely just get an R5 because (if AMD is telling the truth) they might end up preforming equal to or better than Intel's Kaby Lake CPUs for a better price (and a sweet stock cooler on top of that).

>>59474997
>amdrone
go back
>>>/v/

>all the reviewers are massive intel shills
how about this for comparison
>all of the media are massive clinton shills

the second statement is a undeniable fact, media is not reliable and they sure as fuck aren't unbiased even with something as menial as computer hardware

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivKLI20NVtI

>>59473179
The superb build is great, but you dont need a 212 evo..

also you wouldnt need a z270 mobo for a i5 7400.. you could probs get it under 800€

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>>59474962
Let me fix that for you:

>budget tier
1050 Ti

>the same shit tier
470, 1060 3 GB

>the same shit but a bit better tier
480, 1060 6 GB

>I fell for the 4k gaming meme tier
1070 and beyond

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>>59475023
>all of the media are massive clinton shills
I guess this company doesn't exist.

I wish /pol/eddit would leave

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLMYpRSE3v8

>>59475044
fox is equally as shit and they also aren't too fond of trump

>>59475044
>(((Fox News)))
>not Clinton shills

How fast people forget.

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And lets not for get the original and undisputed fire starting champion the one the only Geeeee Forceee GTX 590!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

>>59475018
By the time the R5 comes out, Intels CoffeLake would be just around the corner. It really depends on how long you want to WAIT (tm). I would say get the R7 1700 now and forget waiting for the R5, unless it is out of your budget. See I'm ok with my i5 right now, so I will continue to WAIT(tm) until 2018 to see my options then.

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>>59475044
>In an extensive article within New York Magazine, mostly outlining the rather sordid details of Roger Ailes, readers may also note specific confirmation of something we outlined in August of last year (2015). Fox News owner Rupert Murdoch instructed Fox News executives to take down Donald Trump.

What now, shitlib? Fox News is on YOUR side.

>>59475044
Even Fox, though! Fox did nothing but shit on Trump, but they did it from the perspective of "republicans" who wanted "someone else" to be their candidate.

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>>59475044
>>59475102
>>59475070

It was funny how leftist cumshitters suddenly loved Fox News during their anti-Trump period, lol.

>>59475097
>Intel shills are also clinton cucks

pottery

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>>59475097
>>59475102
>>59475115

>Republicans didn't like Trump
Wow! It's fucking nothing. Lets see the other times where a nominee got less than 51%:
>2008 with John McCain
>1968 with Richard Nixon

>>59475097
>>59475122
>shitlib, libtard, clinton shill
Nice try pol/eddit. I initially supported Trump before he turned out to be a massive zionist shill. Enjoy your upcoming war with Iran.

>>59474270
you dont need 2x 1070's...
They'll performm worse than a single 1080(ti) in most use cases.

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>>59475149
>I initially supported Trump

t. (((Shariablue shill)))

I don't like his kike-loving ways, but seeing you leftist pozcuckolds rage at him so much makes me glad I voted for the mean orange man.

>>59475044
Y'all don't get it. Liberal and Conservative are just labels the people in charge use to divide us when really we're all trying to get the same thing. The only real political parties are Good and Evil and guess which one has the majority.

Both parties are liars. We all know how much republicans lie, because they don't even bother to hide it. They just selfishly promote policies that benefit themselves and nobody else, and they get away with it because their idiotic constituents believe them when they lie about basic economics, science, and other things you learn in your first year of college. And then of course they follow through on their promises to fuck the country sideways because republican voters are too stupid to know what's bad for them.

Democrats, on the other hand, are in charge of manipulating educated liberals. Obama is a great example of how they campaign on things like open government, net neutrality, climate change, anti-warfare, freedom, human rights, education, and then he turns around, does fucking none of it, invades 3 more countries while cutting our defense budget and expanding domestic surveillance, and becomes the most secretive administration in history. And his so called "legacy", obamacare, is shaping up to be a way for insurance companies to enforce a monopoly, so enjoy those $600 annual premiums in a few years if you're not in a state with medicare expansion.

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Is this ok for BF4 and 1 ?
res 1920x1080

Putting a build together when I get paid in just under two weeks. Pretty much know what I want except the case.

Can anyone recommend either smaller ATX mid towers or mATX cases? I'm taking this to university so I don't want anything gigantic.

>>59475813

Fractal Define C. It's designed to be as compact as possible and comes in ATX and mATX configurations.

>>59471255
>AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA
If you're not living in the glorious US of A, you're not living in a country at all.

>>59474449
Weird I have a 480 and an i5 6600k that I haven't overclocked and I get average 70 fps on the witcher 3 with almost everything on ultra.

>>59476131

It's an old benchmark. 480 performance has improved since launch.

So, can you still get away with pirating windows?

It's obviously a cost i never really add to my builds, and to be honest, i don't have much problem using Linux for a month or two.

>>59476138
Probably the best card for 1080 gaming imo. Nvidia will slowly stop supporting the 1060 and the 480 is only supposed to get better.

rx 580 when ? I'm afraid that the changes will be significant between 480 and 580, even though the latter is going to be a rebrand

>>59476224
I don't care about brand. Nvidia lost my business when they starting charging for companies to use gsync and amds free sync is free for any company.

>>59476224
I'm on the fence if i should go for a 480, wait for the 580 (couple of months, no big deal) or get something more powerful that'll be more future proof

>>59476253
I plan on going 1440p soon and am gonna wait to see what vega is doing. If you game at 1080 the 480 is the best card for the money right now. Or get a 1080 now that the price has dropped.

i have my 1700 ordered on the way but i just cant work out which ram/mobo to go for with all the different issues people are having.

aiming for 32gb ram running at 3200 what would be the best route for this

>>59476253
I can run any game 1080p and almost ultra settings with a 480 and I haven't oc it at all.

>>59476284
32gb of ram is overkill

>>59475849
Thanks friendo, I'll look into it.

>>59476394
this is a build mainly for video editing,3d modeling and running VMs not so much for gaming

Hey guys, working on a new PC build at the moment. Here's the list https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/f8gy3F

This will be my first build which I will be overclocking and am a little worried about my PSU being powerful enough as well as the case not being too packed and possibly causing overheating.

>>59476656
>am a little worried about my PSU being powerful enough
650W is more than enough for basically anything that doesn't involve multiple GPUs or CPUs.

>>59475251
Yeah, its pretty good
60fps stable in BF1

>>59476243
Its gonna be just a overclocked rx 480, don't worry about it

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I do need a GPU for Premiere and InDesign, right?

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idk if this goes anywhere

I have my old PC build from 2008 with a few upgraded parts: Q6600, 8GB DDR2, MSI motherboard, Radeon RX460, 350W Corsair PSU, Antec 300 case

I looked through Ebay and even there used Intel CPUs cost a fortune

I'm using Win7 until at least 2020 so Ryzen doesn't seem to be a good choice at this point (unless someone figures out how to re-enable Win Update on that platform)

should I wait or go for pic related? all other parts will be taken over from the old build

How big is the difference between a mini 1070 and a normal one? If I buy a mini one I won't have to buy a new chassi

Is ASUS 24" VG248QE still a good monitor choice? I'm considering getting it over my old ASUS ML248H 60Hz monitor.

I have a i5 2500k OC'd to 4.2ghz and a r9 380. Thinking about building a new pc instead of upgrading, partially because my case was somehow damaged during a house move and all my front USB ports don't work as the pins are all fucked. No idea how that happened.

I could just buy a USB extension block and plug it in the back for more USB slots, and upgrade my r9 380 to a RX 480. Will a 2500k bottleneck a 480?

>>59471255
What features do you guys look for in a motherboard?

>>59478670
normally i try to make sure it has a badass dragon on it or the heatsinks look like a gun or something like that so it would look cool through my case window and i try to make sure the colors on the board coordinate well with my case lights

>>59474440
ASUS make decent products, but their customer support is trash

Does the MSI B350M Gaming Pro mobo look like a good choice for a build that's never gonna see a second GPU on it?

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>>59477590
I accidentally DDR3

fixed and upgraded

>have a cheap ass $50-something micro ATX motherboard that i bought a few years ago
>add heatsinks to the VRMs and put a fan over them
>overclock FX 6300 to 4.7ghz w/ 1.45v
Feels good man

I guess that it's not technically "stable" but I don't care

>>59479528
I did this with my 2500k toward the end of its life cycle.

It was 5 Ghz at 1.5v for over a year before I upgraded. It *still* fucking works. I just don't use it any more.

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This is what i'm considering so far.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tX8C9W

>all good, or anything you'd change/recommend?
>what's a decent, cheap case?

My budget estimate was about ~$1500 to spend. I looked up almost all the parts this week, and they're cheaper than listed here, so i'll have some left over.

A friend told me I should consider a Gigabyte motherboard with built in wi-fi. I couldn't find any helpful information on that though.

>any good mobo with wi-fi that will fit my budget?

>>59479719
Either asus strix z270e or just get a pcie network card from gigabyte.

>>59479719
Also switch out your zotacky carrd for the Gigabyte Windforce OC or the G1 gaming. Much cheaper and better quality

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>>59478903
Kek

>>59477539
pls help

>>59477539
yes you do. get nvidia, 1050ti minimum.

So the RAM I got isn't listed under my mobo manufacturer's supported RAM. Am I fucked?

>>59474270
What the hell are you using this for? Shitposting?

>>59474542
>>59474564
>>59474673

You guys couldn't tell that this is a bait build?

>>59480398
Does it work?
Does it fit the slot?
Have you installed a BIOS update?

Is it a bad idea to buy pc parts over a few months? What if a part doesn't work and it's past the 30 day return date? Is it better to bulk buy pc parts?

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Am I doing good?

>>59480845
It's currently being shipped in the mail right now. It's the right dimm size and frequency that's supported on my mobo, the manufacturer just doesn't have it on their supported RAM page.

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>>59480843
>not spending 3k for a fully RGB build
What are you, gay?

>>59480926
Get a 1 tb drive to shave off $100, then put that towards a RX 480 or GTX 1060.

>>59480926
You could stand to get some RAM with heatsinks. If you are getting a budget build, 1TB is more than enough. Toshiba is a good brand as well. If you are building ~$800 you could also just get an AMD GPU as well. Only Nvidia cards worth getting for budget builds are the 1060 6GB (and even that is stretching it). Just get a 470 instead. You can get a better case for that same price. If you can I would get an EVGA PSU as well.

>>59481220
Seasonic > everyone else

>>59480926
3TB hard drives are $85.

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AAA HES DONE IT
AFTER TWO GOD DAMN MONTHS

>>59480926
Get a gold rated psu. Better quality.
>>59481359
Looks good

Noctua NH-D15 are about as good as they get for air coolers, right? I can get one locally cheap.

>>59481439
yep

Are a gayming motherboards a meme?

>>59481449
Depends. If its MSI, obviously its gaymur trash. The ASUS strix looks like a meme, but id say its decent

>>59481446
It's actually a NH-U14S, still worth it?

>>59481478
>NH-U14S
yeah if it's a good price. smaller, weaker, quieter. still great performer.

So is a 1070 worth it or should I just get a 1060 I want to play The Witcher 3 don't really care if it's maxed but won't the 1060 be shit for newer games coming out?

>>59481550
$60 new in box instead $90 from all other retailers in canada

>>59481573
don't buy for the future. 1060/rx480 about the same. get cheaper of two

>>59481158
>>59480845
Bump.

>>59481590
not bad

>>59481596
True so I see alot of builds coming out to about 800 bucks and in probably gonna get dual monitors so two 1080p monitors should run me about another 200 bucks

>>59481618
>321 posts
>"Bump."
Bruh.

Anyone have a list of pc cases that will fit an H212 EVO cooler in them? This is starting to become a pain in the ass. I thought the H212 EVO was popular, but barely any midtower cases fit it, and even then they come so close to rubbing the end of the case. Then you get mixed information from forums and shit, some saying they fit, others saying they don't fit, or sometimes barely if you're ok with the ends touching, and all of these guys have the same case and cooler, are you shitting me. There's gotta be a better way to do this than buying both the case and the cooler and finding out yourself. It's ridiculous.

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>>59481709
it SUCKS

>>59481788
It's the only cooler I can trust that will fit on my micro ATX board and not rub against my ram while cooling down my i7 920. Why are coolers such fatasses, I barely have like 60-90 mm around the CPU. It sucks.

>>59481709
Buy the Cryorig C7. Its smaller and offers better cooling

>>59480926
A gold PSU will pay for itself if you plan on keeping it for a long time. Storage seems a bit lopsided compared to the rest but I won't question your use case, it's cheaper/GB to buy large drives anyway. Other than that everything's good.

>>59474456
What he mean is that it's tested and rated out of the box and guaranteed to be a one-click OC with XMP
Considering how many ram stick don't overclock, or even works with xmp, it's a fair point to make
Someone who sells a 2133mhz stick already sold the ones that made it to 3000mhz

>>59474547
I'm impartial to argument but I agree,
1050 (not the ti) or step up and get a 470, nothing in between is worth the price

>>59474614
Evga doesn't make PSUs

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>>59474748
>babby lake
>6700k

>>59474871
It also runs half as fast