/hpg/ - Headphone General

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>not owning HD800's
What are you guys doing?

Reposting since I posted it in bump limit
>Budget
around 300 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
Would just go into the headphone jack on my PC, laptop, various other devices.
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Would prefer sound quality over comfort, but really don't want to deal with shitty pleather.
>Sound signature
A bit more bass than treble, but not completely lacking in treble either.
>Past headphones
Audiotechnica ATH-A900X

>>59441914
Not spending our money on garbage memes

>>59441917
Fidelio X2's

>>59441954
No problem, I just saw a comment asking about noise-cancellation saying it was on another description for the headphones, so I was just wondering.

>>59442017
>>59441917
This is exactly what you want.

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>>59442017
>>59442074
Does this little plastic part tear apart after a while, or is it more tough? I know I had an issue with my A900X doing this eventually.

>>59441917
HD650 or HD600
>>59442017
I'd recommend them up to $200
>>59442118
Nope

>>59442118
X2's are crap. Go for Sennhiser HD600. they're pretty much the the best deal under $1000.

>>59442134
shut the fuck up you little pussy faggot. if i saw you in public i would beat you to a pulp.

>Budget
up to 100 (maybe willing to pay more)
>Location
canada
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM (wireless if possible)
>Open or closed
>Comfort level
doesn't matter
>Sound signature
don't care
>Past headphones
ath-m50
shure se215

I might just replace my cable on my pair of se215 but I want to look into some wireless options since I use them for the gym, and I find the cable breaks every 3 months or so.

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>>59442144

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Did I get meme'd buying these?

i want to get headphones just for gaming only and or occasional music production. I am currently using superlux hd668b but i want to upgrade, im looking at

Philips SHP9500

or

Audio Technica ATH-AD700X
advice?

>>59442118
Its a removable cable, so it doesn't matter. You can just buy one for a couple bucks.

>>59442191
700x
more comfy

though 9500 have a removable cable so are somewhat more durable in the long run

>>59442291
sound wise are they similar or way different

>>59442299
between the 9500 and 700x? yeah theyre pretty damn similar. treble is slightly less bright on the 700x

desu just get whatever is cheaper

>>59442360
if the 9500 has bass then ill go with it, idk why but i like how it looks while the 700x looks like it will pressure the top of the dead. when i mean bass i mean pronounced bass that isnt overpowering but good bass. you know. not shitty non existent airy bass that after eqing, still barely has any bass.

>>59441914
I already have HD600. Why would I want an inferior HD800?

>>59441917
Sennheiser HD600 or HD650.

Schiit Fulla 2.

>>59442374
> idk why but i like how it looks while the 700x looks like it will pressure the top of the dead.
nah, unless your head is really small theyre incredibly comfortable. both headphones are really light either way.

>if the 9500 has bass then ill go with it
>you know. not shitty non existent airy bass that after eqing, still barely has any bass.

yeah no neither of those headphones have much low end.

stick with your 668b's and just EQ the highs down, or save for some X2's.

>>59442017
At Fidelio X2's range, I'd suggest Sennheiser HD598se.

>>59442165
Yeah, you got memed.

They're an one-trick dog. Noise cancellation.

Otherwise horrible sounding for their price.

>>59442395
>a bit more bass than treble but not lacking either

>>59442414
I'll always suggest neutral-ish response, no matter what.

HD598se have some bass, unlike the (unmodded) HD558.

>>59442392
wouldnt it be better to just get a dac/amp then? to connect to the computer and control them with?
>X2
>$240
muh heart, muh soul muh wallet desu

>>59442414
That has plenty of bass.

>>59442468
>I'll always suggest neutral-ish response, no matter what.
>Suggesting neutral when people specifically ask about v-shaped.

Why?

>>59442388
>>59442133
Everyone's recommending Sennheiser.

It really that great compared to X2?

>>59442505
It's just a neutral headphone.
If you like bass, you'll likely will find it lacking and have to add it through EQ.

It will also require an amp to drive.

>>59442493
Because people who think that they want anything else than a neutral signature are simply misguided.

Once used to it, neutral is the best.

Other signatures are a scam, to get people to buy headphones after testing them for short periods of time in shops.

>>59442505
It depends on what you want, Sennheiser is an extremely popular and loved company so it's no surprise they're seen everywhere. Not to mention the 600s/650s are regarded as some of, if not the best "all round" headphones under $1000

>>59442537
Believe it or not anon there are people out there who want nothing but have their headphones/speakers shake their head.

>>59442525
>>59442505
>It really that great compared to X2?
Yes. HD600/HD650 are absolutely awesome. Go look reviews up. Read/watch until you're convinced. Shouldn't be hard to achieve.

>It will also require an amp to drive.
Just to drive loud. They're low-sensitivy, which yields low volume unless there's some amp providing gain.

The low sensitivity helps them not sound like garbage when plugged to sources that have poor power budget.

>>59442555
>Believe it or not anon there are people out there who want nothing but have their headphones/speakers shake their head.

I'm aware. And steering them away from that madness is the right thing to do.

I hold moral high ground.

Headphone test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3peaBQGk_I

>>59442598
Does everything sound forward or is it just me going deaf?

can someone please post that chart of the anime characters wearing real life headphones?

>>59442574
You're a fag lol

>>59442568
I may go for the HD600. Is it really drastic or noticeably different compared to the 650 from your experience?

I own the SHP 9500's and CB-1's, and I find myself reaching for the CB-1 more often when I'm listening to music.
Am I crazy senpai?

>>59442660
Not him but IMO if you already have the 650 it's not really worth the buy

Unless you're THAT fussy about neutrality don't bother

>>59442675
I don't have either, just wondering if it'd be better to save for the more pricey of the two since 650 seems far above my desired budget.

>>59442628
Which headphones?

>>59442690
If the 650s are outside your budget just go for the 600s

>>59442699
HD 650

>>59442671
Nah, you just like the CB's more

I'm going to make this short and sweet

I'm looking for headphones that are like my M40x but better in terms of sound quality. I like the neutrality of these headphones. Id use these headphones for my laptop and phone, and I'd prefer closed.

I'm from the US and my budget is $250.

>>59442690
They're almost exactly the same, the higher number doesn't make them better.

>>59442660
I only have the HD600, so can't really comment on HD650.

Going by reviews and FR, the HD650 sacrifices just a little neutrality but provides significantly more bass and slightly more forward mids.

http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=853&graphID%5B2%5D=2851&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=30&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

I do plan on getting HD650 at some point to thoroughly evaluate them, but I only got the HD600 a month ago (from 2 years of HD598), so maybe in a year or so? Gotta keep my audio expenses under control.

>>59442707
>HD 650
Headphone experience w/chihaya:
- HD598 w/motherboard amp: Do not like aoi tori.
- HD598 w/fulla2 || w/modi2u+magni2u: Love aoi tori.
- HD598 any combination: Do not like nemurihime.
- HD600 any combination: Love nemurihime and aoi tori.

>>59442690
You could wait until the HD 650 goes on sale again. I got mine for $300 on Amazon just last week. I highly recommend them. They'll go on sale again soon enough.

>>59442738
They do have more bass, but it's not that signicant

>>59442790
Significant, even.

>>59442798
I'd say 3~5dB is pretty significant.

How do hd600s sound being driven by a smartphone?

>>59443026
yes

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>>59442798
>>59442790
>>59442736
>>59442707
>>59442675
alright guys, >>59441917 here. Think I made my decision. Thanks for all the friendly advice and goodnight.

>>59443211
Sleep well anon, enjoy your new headphones

>>59442982
>How do hd600s sound being driven by a smartphone?

Good. Also not loud, but comfortable enough volume.

I use them with my Oneplus3, for deresute and love live school idol festival.

What headphones would be best for listening to this song?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0kEkh4r_j0

>>59443211
I'd suggest the newer Schiit Fulla 2 instead. More power budget, better built, and you'll apreciate the line-in (e10k forces you to use its dac).

>>59443337
>Schiit Fulla 2
This?
https://www.amazon.com/Fulla-USB-Dongle-DAC-Amp/dp/B00UB5GK4O

>>59443211
The HD600 are even better than their reputation.

Just keep in mind it will likely take you a week or two of use (don't EQ or bass boost!) to get your ears/brain used to them. Particularly true if coming from v-shaped or bright headphones, they'll just sound odd at first.

It'll be awesome after.

>>59443353
>this?

This:
http://schiit.com/news/news/schiit-
announces-fulla-2
http://schiit.com/products/fulla-2
http://www.head-fi.org/t/828228/schiit-fulla-2-impressions-thread

Cheapest on schiit's own shop... they do direct sales in the USA.

>>59443353
Fulla2 was released by the end of 2016. It's very new.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/828123/even-more-fulla-schiit-meet-the-2-figure-do-all-desktop

I love mine... nifty AF with the aux inputs and outputs. Feels really solid. The volume wheel is awesome. Sounds unreal for something USB powered; almost indistinguishable from my modi2u+magni2u schiit stack.

>>59443403
It's also very cute

>>59443335
For any given song, Sennheiser HD600.

>>59443417
Yeah, it's adorable in a way.

Fetishy item. My precious.

>>59443335
HD 650, they're awesome for rock/hard rock stuff

>>59443403
>>59443377
Take it it's not on any other sites then if it's new. Was trying to fit it into one Amazon prime package. Thanks for the suggestion. Might get the one currently in my Amazon cart and keep my eye on the Fulla for a sale later.

>>59443435
Schiit does prefer direct sales, and they can sell cheaper thanks to that.

The long version (schiit's story):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

Fiio e10k is pretty good in its price range. It's just now that there's the fulla2 around, it's not as good value anymore.

>Might get the one currently in my Amazon cart and keep my eye on the Fulla for a sale later.

That'd be only a sidegrade. Do not really recommend doing that, unless you need a second dac/amp for use elsewhere (work), keeping your primary one at home.

My setup is Schiit Modi2u + Magni2u with HD600 and HD598, at home, and HD380 Pro + Fulla 2 at work.

>>59443435
TL;DR: Schiit is in amazon in two forms:

Official: More expensive than schiit.com, but available to get exposure to the sort of people who only buy on prime: http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/4695#post_11198852

Unofficial: 2nd hand.

If you're buying schiit, you're better off buying directly. They have two years warranty and a 2-week refund policy, so it should be alright.

>>59443435
Fiio e10k: Max Output Power: 200mW(32Ω) (at higher impedance it's unknown, couldn't find a table)

Fulla2:
Maximum Power, 16 Ohms: 550mW RMS per channel
Maximum Power, 32 ohms: 360mW RMS per channel
Maximum Power, 50 ohms: 230mW RMS per channel
Maximum Power, 300 ohms: 40mW RMS per channel

>>59443435
Fiio e10k and HD600(guess from 32Ω): 110.7 dB

Fulla2 and HD600: 113.4 dB

See: https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2011/09/more-power.html

>>59443543
>>59443521
>>59443498
Going for the Fulla. Can't wait to see how much of a change this and the HD600 is from my A900X.

>>59443558
>A900X to HD600
Start fetching some FLACs if you don't have any. Will also be a good time for spotify premium trial/subscription.

Anime suggestions include:
- Love Live
- idolm@ster

Videogame suggestions include:
- Atelier Iris 2 (ps2, pcsx2)
- Ar tonelico (ps2, pcsx2)
- Ar noSurge (ps3, vita)
- Love Live School Idol Festival (android+ios)
- Deresute (android+ios). See https://hpt.moe/deresute/Main_Page

>>59442598
>using such a shit mic for vocals
JUST

>>59443521
>A500X
>Fulla 2

You'll also want to try your old A500X on the Fulla 2 :-)

>>59443612
A900X

>>59443614
... right. (A900X)

124.4 dB w/fulla2 (plenty of margin)

Probably just a little difference though, they're low impedance and high sensitivity. Seem to work well with any sources.

That FR, however... such a rollercoaster: http://en.goldenears.net/13934

>>59443211
You dun fucking goofed son

>>59443718
fuck off audiotechnicaboy04

>>59442118
test

Hey all,
My HyperX Cloud died yday, so I'm looking for a new one. I liked it a lot and I wanna get something similar. Obv I don't need a mic.

>Budget
from Hungary, so let's just say around what a hyperx cloud costs

>Location
Hungary

>Source
Asus lapton, Nexus 7 tablet, Huawei Honor 4c phone

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
I want comfort, I will use headphones for hours

>Sound signature
Something like HyperX Cloud, not sure how good the bass is on it, but I liked it

>Budget
near 30 EUR
>Location
Italy
>Source
PC(Asus) and phone(Wileyfox Swift)
>Type of headphone
in ear
>Comfort level
Doesn't rally matter if quality is good
>Sound signature
neutral or bass
>Past headphones
philips SHE 9000

>Budget
I'm looking to spend around two to three hundred.

>Location
USA, West Coast

>Source
Either USB or Jack (Prefer USB)

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
I much prefer closed.

>Comfort level
Quality > Comfort. With that being said, I don't want my ears to ache 24/7.

>Sound signature
I play games, so all around I suppose?

>Past headphones
SteelSeries Siberia v2 Elite White Edition (Comes with a soundcard built in.) Seriously good headphones for how cheap they are. However mine are decaying very badly, and I'd like a new pair. It's time to put the old dog down.

If anything, I may end up just buying a brand new set if I miss it too much.

>>59444039
HD380 Pro, HD569.

Also, you 100% sure you need closed?

>>59444384
>I play games, so all around I suppose?

Neutral.

>I much prefer closed.

You sure? Open are going to be more comfortable _and_ sound better.

Closed advice: >>59444423

Open advice: HD600 or HD650.

Hi guys i am looking for a new pair of news Porta pro but i dont know the differences between a fake an a real one. I saw

Can you help me? i saw a lot of falsifications on eBay and others...

Was looking trying higher quality Headphones, but wanted to start on the lower price side first. For me the big deciding factors are them having No/Low Sound leakage and good Comfort(for prolonged use). Was thinking of getting the AKG K72's

Really appreciate any input you guys may have

>Budget:
Preferably under $100 not more than $150
>Location:
USA
>Source:
PC only
>Type of headphone:
Full sized
>Open or closed:
Closed
>Comfort level:
Good
>Past headphones:
Photive BTH3 (Sound leak is awful on these) Wireless is nice but not really needed for me.

>>59442165
Pros:
Best noise cancelling headphones
Very flat response when NC is on
Cons:
Very poor response with NC off

I think these are one of the best headphones you could buy.

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rec pls

>Budget:
No more than $300 AUD, pref around 200
>Location:
AUS
>Source:
PC and phone
>Type of headphone:
Full sized
>Open or closed:
Closed
>Comfort level:
Pref comfort over sound, want to wear this for extended periods of time
>Past headphones:
I borrow my dad's Bose QC25s sometimes, something similar to that level of comfort at a lower price
>Other notes
No fuckin suspension wire or whatever that is pls

>>59444447
What's wrong with just grabbing from amazon?

>>59444688
Beyerdynamic DT880 or DT990 depending on what frequency response you like (flat vs V respectively)

>>59444688
Do you need noise canceling?

>yes
ATH-ANC9
https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/collections/headphones/products/audio-technica-ath-anc9-noise-cancelling-headphones

>no
HD569
https://addictedtoaudio.com.au/collections/headphones/products/sennheiser-hd569-closed-back-headphones

>>59444423

Well, I'm no expert at this topic, but isolation is important to me. Also I don't want others to hear what I'm listening to.
I checked the prices of all those 4 and the cheapest is 2x the price I bought my HXC 1.5yrs ago. Do you have some cheaper recommendations?

>>59444844
>the cheapest is 2x the price I bought my HXC 1.5yrs ago.
HXC is gaymer hardware. Not really comparable.

>Do you have some cheaper recommendations?
There's the HD280, but honestly, cheaper is crap. While there's diminishing returns on money spent, there's also a minimum below which you're just throwing money away. The 380 are a major step up in sound quality and comfort.

>Well, I'm no expert at this topic, but isolation is important to me. Also I don't want others to hear what I'm listening to.
Use at an open office, or a room with other people? Closed.

Otherwise (your own office, room alone), Open. Closed provides isolation in exchange for comfort and sound quality.

>Use at an open office, or a room with other people?
Yes, exactly.

Unfortunately I don't have much money.

Thank you, though.

Anybody got experience with Sennheiser MX 365?

Im looking for some earbuds and they look nice for 10 bucks

>>59444783
arent the dt's open

>>59445210
to my knowledge not all of them are open. For ex. I know for a fact that the Beyerdynamic DT 770's are closed

>>59444039
Status cb-1.
Detachable cable means you can add a mic later if you want.

>>59442728
Bump

>>59446389
DT880
HE-400I
AKG K7XX

>>59446389
Might look into the MSR7.

>>59444384
see
>>59446457

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Quick review of generic chinkshit HD545 HD565 HD580 HD600 HD650 velour earpads... for all your Senn fags.

Ordered these because my HD600 earpads are now 9 months old and wanted the "new cans feeling" again. I didn't wanna order $50+ real earpads so I ordered chinkshit ones for under $10 (not sure what I pad actually... I can look that one up if you're interested).

The velour is quite good. Soft and feels exactly like Senn originals. Inside foam has the same feeling and softness/firmness level. Construction is pretty good. There are some differences between the originals:

1) The back plastic is shiny on chinkshit and matte on originals
2) Plether lining that connects plastic and velour inside of the earcup is wrinkled on chinkshit and smoother on originals.
3) Connection between velour and plether is a bit rougher on chinkshit ones but not by much.

But they didn't change the sound at all. Cans sound exactly the same with chinkshit and originals.

I'd give these 8/10. Definitely worth the buy if you don't wanna spend lots of money on originals.

>>59444423
>recommending closed Senns

kys

>>59444384
dt770 80ohm

>>59447534
880's are better for games no?

>>59447552
it's preference, dt770 is like dt880 but with a lot more sub-bass, so if he likes rumble the dt770 will satisfy him

dt880 is more neutral

>>59444384

you should also invest in a dac or a soundcard. A cheap one will suffice. But it is important the motherboard sound can vary greatly and often isn't isolated that well

What's the best bang for the buck chink shit headphones?

>>59448148
Samson SR850/Superlux 668B's
Superlux HD 681
Superlux 669/Samson SR950

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>Budget
<$130
>Location
Hueland, but I'm willing to buy from eBay
>Source
PC with Xonar DG as soundcard
>Type of headphone
IEM preferably, full-sized closed if it means better quality
>Comfort level
As long as it doesn't hurt, its fine.
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Currently have a Koss Porta Pro and a Hifiman Re-400, which I like the most.

Basically I want to know if theres a worth upgrade from my Hifiman in this price range.

am i delusional or is there such a thing as a headphone being kind of loud but feint, as if the frequencies arent strong because it's not getting enough power

>>59448450
Brainwavs HM5

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Show them!

>>59449541
After the huge shitstorm on head-fi I'm not surprised he's trying to distance the product from it.
If you search for hifiman edition 6 on Google the first result is the headfi thread where Fang made an ass out of himself

I need earbuds.
Are the Xiaomeme earburds any good?

>>59449541

>>59449732
kek. just searched for it. fun starts on top of this page:

http://www.head-
fi.org/t/831355/hifiman-edition-6-headphones/180

>>59450013
That was heavily edited by mods to try to save some face.

>>59450006
They're nice for V-shaped IEM's.

>>59450071
wouldn't surprise me. head-fi is almost anti-free-speech as plebbit. you say one word against some product that advertises there and you're banned for life. you're not even allowed to discuss blind testing outside a single, sparsely-trafficked, subforum.

but seriously, fuck HiFiman. They're such a shit and greedy company. they even killed off their customer service and parts sales. now, when something breaks, you have to send them your headphones so they can charge you for repairs... instead of just sending you the replacement part.

I'm glad I sold my HE400i. Will never buy them again.

>>59449668
How does it compare to my Hifiman RE-400?

I would buy the Fulla 2 but I'm in Europe, any advice? Not going to get fucked by custom

>>59450562
Fiio E10k. 40% cheaper, lower noise floor, sounds just as good. Fulla2 is a meme. Don't overpay for "made in the USA" label.

>>59450482
Treble roll off isnt as hard and maybe a little more bass with really comfy pads

>>59450623
Hm.
I've seen on leddit that they're identical to a phone called Jaycar Pro, which is much cheaper. Should I go for it, then?

Are there any other models to considerate?

Is it better to save money now and get a broader price range later (maybe $150~160)?

>>59450578
Oh so that's the only reason why it's shilled so much. It looked cute tho.

>>59450824
It has more connectivity options as well, only real difference.
Can use it as exclusively as an amp, can't bypass the DAC with the e10k.

>>59450665
You could go for it, there's also NVX XPT100's which are basically the same as HM5's. If you can save up a bit more, AKG K612's with an E10K or Fulla 2 would fit your criteria perfectly unless you need closed cans since they're for home use.

>>59442134
You can't run those well without a good amp

>>59442017
This. They are amazingly comfortable, bassy while having a great soundstage, doesn't require a dedicated amp to to sound great, uses standard 3.5mm cable and not some expensive proprietary cable like the sennheiser.

>Budget
up to 75€, id be happy to pay less
>Location
Europe
>Source
connected via bluetooth with my phone
>Type of headphone
bluetooth in ears for exercise
>Comfort level
They should be comfortable for ~ 3 hour use
>Past headphones
Only in ears, which came with the phone.
M50x for my computer

>>59451116
Too late, he ordered HD 600's and an E10K

is the MDR-7506 a meme headphone?

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Broadcasting music in one of the highest bitrates (If not THE highest bitrate) known the man

https://chiru.no:8081/highres.flac

When this baby hits 352KHz, you're gonna see some serious shit

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>>59451477

Where my T50rp mk3 bros at?

>>59450071
I remember reading the thread. People freaked out even more because he compared getting called on his shit pricing to the Chinese revolution

What's the GTX 1080 Ti of headphones?

>>59451675
I would think Stax are or anything around $1K like LCD X's or Ether Flow C's.

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meddl loide

>>59451675
the HD800

>>59451208
need help pls

>>59451958

look into the BÖHM Wireless Headphones or the Sony MDRZX770BT

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nighthawk carbon or nightowl carbon?
either for <$300.

What's a good next step to move to after the M50x?
>Budget
$200-$250 CAD
>Source
O2 DAC from my pc and occasionally my phone
>Open or Closed
Either

>>59452080
Im looking for in ear/IEM, but thank you

>>59452097
Well, what do you prefer, open or closed? That seems to be the main difference. I think I remember reading that the nightowl was made to be a closed back nighthawk, so I'd imagine their sound signatures are very similar, I could be wrong though.

>>59441902
I brought the K7xx of Massdrop yesterday.
I probably need a DAC/AMP to go with it.
Looking at these:
FiiO Olympus 2 E10K

or this which is half the price but I'm not sure if its big enough.

FiiO D03K Taishan Coaxial/Optical DAC.

Source is a Asus Z170-AR motherboard, I believe it has optical.

Thoughts or other suggestions please.

>>59448173
>Superlux HD 681

681? For chink shit, that's actually 31 more than my HD 650s. Impressive!

>>59445210
880s are semi open, 990s are open

i heard the philips SHP9500 has low bass, would buying an amp/dac with bass boost help it or would it be much better to EQ using the computers motherboard.?
>using it for video games and music production

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>>59451495
Why am I getting only 16-bit/44100 from it?

>>59452390
Nevermind, I realized immediately after posting that it's just because of the current song that's playing

>>59452360
>semi open
nice meme

>>59441902
Hello /hpg/

>40€
>Italy
>Gaming PC
>Closed
>Medium comfort
>Past headphones: some kind of turtle Beach
>Mic integrated, gayming use

Help me please, asking on behalf of one of my friends.

>>59452206
No real preference for open or closed, and I already have a relative equal number and cost of both types of headphones. I'm reading people who tried both Carbon models ended up liking the closed Nightowl more. Just wanted to see if anyone here has listened to them.

>>59450562
http://schiit.com/faq/international

>>59452217
http://schiit.com/products/fulla-2

>>59452456
HyperX Cloud. The original one, NOT the 2. Don't bother with anything cheaper.

>>59452579
Thank you very much!

>>59452217
>FiiO Olympus 2 E10K
This. You don't need anything more expensive. Ignore Fulla2 because it's much more expensive for no benefit whatsoever and it actually also has a higher noise floor. E10k will work great for K7xx

>>59452368
bump

>>59452647
>for no benefit whatsoever

Well-made (vs made in china), all metal, WAY MORE POWER, line-in so you can use it as amp without the dac, line outs with and without volume, superior volume knob.

>a higher noise floor.

Both are above 100dB, so who the fuck cares.

>>59452577
I think because this other guy confirmed the FiiO because its half the price, and I would have to buy it from Australia from New Zealand. Can get the FiiO locally.
Thanks for your input though, its appreciated.
>>59452647
Thanks

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Anyone own Dunu Titan 5? Are they worth for listening to on the bus / train?

My main issue over the years has been iems breaking at the cable so I looked around for ones with detachable cables.

>>59452815
>Well-made (vs made in china),
Fiio makes good shit. Doesn't matter it's made it China because Chinese can also make good shit.

>all metal,
So is E10k,

>WAY MORE POWER
who the fuck cares. E10k has plenty of power.

anyway, just get E10k for much less.

>>59452853
>Thanks
no probs. just read the amazon reviews on E10k if you're unsure. it has no issues and works really well. you can power any headphone with it.

>>59452989
>>59452853
Read/Watch Fulla 2 reviews while at it ;)

Fiio doesn't recommend use of e10k with headphones that have over 150Ω impedance. The k7xx will be fine, but it won't suit e.g.: HD600/HD650.

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I bought the AKG K612 pro a week ago. Sounds pretty decent to me desu. Using the sound blaster stixk because I bought that for use with my ps4. Sounds pretty good to me and it didn't seem to miss anything compared to plugging the headphones into a big receiver or a seperate hp amp in some very brief "" testing"".

Am I missing much by not having a real amp for these 120 ohm headphones?

>>59453132
Probably not, considering you even tested that.

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evangelion soundtrack in 192KHz

is the Philips SHP9500 good for gaming and bass heavy music? would a dac help

>>59453159
it was literally just half of one song, so it wasn't a real test. just to check if there wasn't a huge day/night difference.
The stick is supposed to be able to handle 300 ohm headphones by the way. 32 ohm ear dildos only really go up to 4/100 volume and are already slightly too loud at 1/100 and they have a noticeable hiss. So I guess the thing is definitely meant for power hungry headphones.

>>59452241
The HD 650s costs... nothing?

>>59452097
Why are you making the restriction to the Audioquest models?

>>59453350
>>59453058
>headphones that have over 150Ω impedance
>supposed to be able to handle 300 ohm
An upper limit spec is generally useless and doesn't relate to anything like stability. Ignore it.

>Am I missing much
Amplifier/DAC checklist:
-Is it too quiet?
-Is the output impedance too high (fixable by equalization)?
-Is there noise/EMI or hiss to it?
-Does it sound distorted as you start to crank up the volume?
If the answer is no, don't get one.

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>>59453322
>9230kbps

boyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>59453609
>An upper limit spec is generally useless and doesn't relate to anything like stability. Ignore it.

So you'd recommend e10k for HD600/HD650 (300Ω), despite the manufacturer tells you 150Ω max?

>>59453322
>>59453642
https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

>>59453609
because i can get them for <$300 you fucking retard

>>59453670
poorfag

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Beware chink headphones/amps/etc. BadUSB is bad enough, but not even headphone jacks are safe:

https://alephsecurity.com/2017/03/08/nexus9-fiq-debugger/

>>59452971
I don't know personally but i have read a lot of overwhelmingly postitive stuff about them on head fi. There is a tonne of info there.

>buy a M50x
>had a gaming head set before

They sound slightly flat. I don't know if I just wasted 150 dollars. Am I missing something?

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I think I have headphone autism

>>59453648
>manufacturer tells you 150Ω max
It is an arbitrary statement that has nothing to do with anything, except some misguided notions concerning complex impedance.
It is fine.

>>59453675
>sub-300
That doesn't mean it is worth buying.
The tuning of the Nighthawk is based on a very...particular interpretation of the human transfer function. In other words, it has a very skewed response. That doesn't go away, whatever the price is.

>>59452971
Isolation is rather poor for commuter use. Shallow fit only, broad low end lift.

>>59454058
>>59452971
My other thought was to get a wireless headset like Sennheiser HD 4.40 BT.

>>59454058
It's only fine as far as you're fine going over spec.

I wouldn't be surprised if power output is <1mW at 300Ω, but seeing the negative reviews in amazon, my best guess is that these devices just die when overloaded.

how are hd 569

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>>59454058
yea the NH is tuned similarly to the LCD-2, which people loved. your point?

>>59454103
Your idle speculation isn't worth the bytes they take up in the archives.
You have this fractured idea of electronics, the sort of thing that would require some time to untangle.
My honest suggestion for you is to start reading up on basic electronics, starting from DC and AC components and simple circuits.

Fiio E10k failures aren't particularly related to electrical instability into high impedance loads, but .
If current is in phase with the voltage, as these devices are generally tested, the Fiio E10k can manage a bit more than 20mW into a 300 ohm load.
When it comes to real use, the power output is of secondary importance, as the headphone's transfer function (or frequency response) is defined by voltage and not by power. Current is not always in phase with voltage either, certainly not for the Sennheiser headphones.


>>59454260
You really seem fixated on the Audioquest headphones.
There is a very large drop in the midrange to the Nighthawk, much more so than any of the LCD-2 versions. The original LCD-2 was also divisive for the generally reduced upper frequency response.
If you care about reviews and consensus, the Nighthawk was broadly panned upon arrival.

>>59453970
You need to let your brain get used to the sound. Better headphones are supposed to be more neutral (and neutral the m50 is not, so you must have come from something really coloured)

>>59453346
>Gaming
Yes.
>Bass heavy music
Heh, no.

>>59453322
Listening to this on my SR-007

Good shit, senpai

>>59453346
If you want nigger bass, save up for the X2s instead.

>>59454728
I had a Kingston hyper x cloud II

>>59453609
>>Am I missing much
You're not missing anything.

>>59454058
>It is an arbitrary statement that has nothing to do with anything, except some misguided notions concerning complex impedance.
>It is fine.
100% true.

I'm thinking about making my own custom cable for my headphones (HD600). I see them being sold online for $150 and that's fucking insane because there's less than $20 worth of components.

I found all the connectors I need online and now I just need to pick the wire.

Has anyone made their own cable? What wire gauge should I buy?

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Worth it?

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>>59454959
https://www.veclan.com/engappliance_sel_one?eng_ApplianceVo.eac_id=8

Are those Marshall headphones any good? They're just around $40

>>59455085
major 2 was fantastic

>>59454959
Get 20'ish gauge wire with silicone insulation. The silicone is important so it won't be all stiff. That's also small enough you can sleeve it in standard parachord thickness nylon to make it look pretty if you want.

>>59455098
Thanks, I thought they were just some hyped headphones. I've been seeing those alot lately

>>59442017
Problem with X2 is not just a bit bloated bass, but midrange and vocals. They feel buried in comparison to A900X and HD600.

Anyone here with HD700, how are they? How they compare to HD600? Many people have conflicted views on then but some praise female vocals and I am thinking about trying out one in the future as an alternative to my HD600.

>>59455070
that's a pretty good looking cable for $20! Do you have one, anon?

>>59455100
thanks for tips! I had no idea about silicone. that's great. I found a seller on ebay that sells nylon sleeves so I wouldn't have to guy paracord. but paracord sleeve is cool too. have you made any cables, anon?

>>59455185
>A bit more bass than treble, but not completely lacking in treble either.

But anon, the A900Xs and HD 600s don't have any bass.

>>59455050
>$500
>IEM
are you nuts?

>>59455198
>guy paracord
gut paracord

Hello /g/,
I need to make some videos and would appreciate a headphone recommendation with good noise isolation for the audio out. My budget is 300 max, but the cheaper the better tbqhwyf

>>59455202
Yeah thats the other thing, if A900X has no bass then X2 will be not a bit more bass, it will be fuckload more bass for his tastes. I didn't like bass on X2 personally, too much and too bloated but I don't really care for bass amount in my phones, hoverer I recommended them to my friends who likes bass.

>>59455198
>have you made any cables, anon?

A few for headphones, but mostly building amps where you have to be more conscious of wire size, type and voltage rating.

>>59455259
>building amps
Whoa, which ones have you built? Know of any open source plans for a USB AMP/DAC?

>>59455198
>that's a pretty good looking cable for $20! Do you have one, anon?

No, there's nothing wrong with the stock cable

>>59455294
it's too long for my taste. I need something when I'm on the go.

>>59455279
ODAC/O2 is probably what you want. Kits are pretty cheap and performance is good for the value. I usually do bigger stuff like stereo amps.

>>59455314
Oh, well that cable should serve you well, unless you'd rather make one yourself for fun

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>tfw enjoy the Panasonic earbuds I bought for the price of coffee almost as much as I enjoy my HD800's which cost literally 150x as much

Am I just a pleb or is audio equipment the most memed market in existence? I don't regret buying my HD800's as they sound amazingly good in my opinion, but they sure as shit aren't 150x better than my shit earbuds, not even 3x as good.

Maybe I'm just easily pleased.

>>59456110
If I could start all over, I'd probably just keep a pair of Koss Portapros and a small Schiit stack equivalent or something.

But I'm too far gone. I've got my flagship gear and I don't want to go back.

>>59456222
>Koss Portapros
Are these even still a thing?

>>59456256
Yes. Just like they've been a thing since the 1980's

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>>59456110
You need to read tons of long headphone reviews again to brainwash yourself back

>>59456110
shit hearing.

>>59456346
>as they sound amazingly good in my opinion
>shit hearing

???

>>59456256
they need to come down in price these days, but yeah they still sound good

>>59455198
>>59455223

They make paracord that is already empty, bruh.

>>59456418
Are there any better cans on the PortaPro's price range? I'm still using my six year old

>>59456110
Different people different needs, some people like to listen while doing something and they just want things to sound fun, others will sit in a quiet room alone and have a blank stare trying to hear how close to microphone was a singer. However it's YOU who are baiting for responses.

>>59455050
You could get some decent customs for that price.

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>ctrl+f "etymotic"
>No results found
It's so hard to find shit about these IEMs, I was sceptical as hell before ordering them because I felt like the total lack of information online meant they had to be a ruse, but I ended up buying a pair of the XRs and these are crazy good.

If you're looking for IEMs with intense isolation, you should get these. They're mostly neutral, but EQ really well so you can increase bass or treble if you want. I bought a pair of Oppo PM3s a few months back and ended up returning them because I just listened to the Etymotics instead...

>>59456857
>what is comfort

>>59456932
I thought they felt kinda weird for a couple days, but now I easily fall asleep listening with them in... comfort's not really an issue

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What amp should I get for AKG K7XX?
Something black and not too expensive.

How bad will they sound without one? Running on an Asus H170 pro mobo.

>>59457126
I use the K7XX without an amp all the time, and it sounds fine. With my phone (iPhone 7, iPhone 6 before that, Galaxy S7 before that), with my computer, with my work computer...

You really don't need an amp with the K7XX.

>>59457182
Have you tried it with an amp for reference?

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Just bought these, they seem good for my budget and chose them over hd 598s, what am I in for?

>>59457126
E10K

>>59457188
I have. I bought a Schiit Fulla, I've also listened with a Dragonfly, and I recently bought a Shanling M1 as a portable DAP, that also can be a DAC/amp. No discernible difference to me.

The one time I hear a difference is through my Little Dot MkII, but the big difference there is from the tube warmth. They do sound nice paired together, the warmth gently amplifies the bassier sound signature of the K7XX, but you definitely don't need it, or any other amp.

>>59456346
>>59456676
There's physical limits to hearing and some of the shit audiophiles claim to hear takes actual training or you'd be unable to tell the difference - and even then it mostly comes down to preference/taste. And to think that you guys probably shit on Apple for producing "overpriced" hardware... Note: I'm not even saying that you shouldn't buy your stupid $200+ headphone/earbuds, but just like with wine and "natural" food, you have to accept that they're mostly expensive placebos that only sound better because you (want to) believe they do.

>>59452447
While it's irrelevant in the case of the DT880 it's also not wrong either.

>>59451346
No, the V6 is an industry standard for almost 30 years, it's pretty far from a meme.

>>59457212
Not bad at all, it is bass light but damn, does it sound nice! Very airy sound.

>>59444688
>Closed
>Comfy

Pick one

AKG K712s on are DWI ebay for 280 kangaroo bucks, I used a 10% ebay code and got them for 250

>>59457126
What's the cable they take? Is it just standard 3 prong mini XLR?

>>59456110
Nah, i find some cheap headphones to be alright too (and have tested expensive ones that suck balls), i'd rather listen to my DT880 or maybe a HD600 over my cheap philips iems, much more comfortable, doesn't sound so much inside my head, closer to neutral (and easier to EQ) etc, but some times i just need isolation on a bus or while training and don't have room on my backpack for bigger headphones, when that is the case the cheap iems are fine too, much better than no music and actually not bad either.
I agree, the quality difference is not nearly proportional to the price difference, but i guess one should ask himself how much is too much for that extra 10%, 5%, 1% etc.

Any experiences with the Audioquest Dragonfly Red?

>Budget
$50
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full sized/circumaural
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High, but willing to concede to quality
>Sound signature
V-shaped
>Past headphones

TekNmotion TM-YB100A
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826289003
Picked these up on a budget a few years ago, and honestly for <$25 they're surprisingly good. Sound quality is great and they've taken really heavy use and even some slight abuse like a fucking champ (I use them 99.9% of the time). They're also pretty comfy. I'd seriously consider simply buying another one if it wasn't for a couple issues which I would like to avoid in their replacement.

The most obvious issue I have currently is that the mic suddenly and completely died less than a year after buying them, which this particular set seems to be somewhat notorious for. Another issue is the in-line volume control; I can't count of the number of times it's gotten snagged on something, and just as with the set they replaced it's gonna end up being the final point of failure before long. Adjusting the volume already causes one side to cut out at certain levels and the cable is stiffening on either end of the little volume control box.

>>59456460
Not him, but link?

>>59454959
Audio cables are the biggest scam. Definitely make your own. Ebay connectors, paracord or braided sheeting.

MY EARS RADIO ANON MY EARS

MY RADIO EARS ANON MY RADIO

>>59457331
isn't this because they're quite harsh sounding and good at accentuate flaws though? this might be good for industrial applications but are they really suitable for consumer use?

>59454722
>You have this fractured idea of electronics, the sort of thing that would require some time to untangle.
heh
>If current is in phase with the voltage, as these devices are generally tested, the Fiio E10k can manage a bit more than 20mW ***into a 300 ohm load***.
Impedance doesn't work like that, and you cannot predict max power output on 300Ω headphones from their marketed power output at 32Ω.
>(inb4) Your idle speculation isn't worth the bytes they take up in the archives.
>20mW
pfffrt.
>My honest suggestion for you is to start reading up on basic electronics, starting from DC and AC components and simple circuits.
lol.
>Fiio E10k failures aren't particularly related to electrical instability into high impedance loads, but .
But?

>>59454959
>I'm thinking about making my own custom cable for my headphones (HD600). I see them being sold online for $150 and that's fucking insane because there's less than $20 worth of components.

$32 (official): https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-Replacement-Cable-HD600-Headphones/dp/B000KPSLZG/

>>59457879
He doesn't want a replacement cable, he wants a better one, hence why he was looking at custom cables.

>>59455185
>Anyone here with HD700, how are they? How they compare to HD600? Many people have conflicted views on then but some praise female vocals and I am thinking about trying out one in the future as an alternative to my HD600.
See FR graphs. HD600 > HD650 >>> HD700

HD700 does really odd crap in the midend. I only own HD600, but while HD650 I'd consider, HD700 seems way off, besides expensive.

HD800/HD800S seem interesting but way more expensive...

>>59455279
>Whoa, which ones have you built? Know of any open source plans for a USB AMP/DAC?
>>59455363
>Kits are pretty cheap
I've only seen kits at >100€, which isn't exactly cheap. Where did you find them cheaper, anon?

>>59456222
>If I could start all over, I'd probably just keep a pair of Koss Portapros and a small Schiit stack equivalent or something.
And then you'd go down the slippery slope of pure audio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfWwCfN8TO0

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Where can I get a sample of FLAC audio.
Actual songs, not just some in house musicians making elevator music.

>>59457126
Schiit Fulla 2.

Then you can compare:
- onboard -> headphones.
- onboard dac -> fulla2 amp -> headphones.
- fulla2 dac+amp -> headphones.

>>59457239
Lol e10k. Here's a bunch of amps compared (on an HD6xx/HD650)

SMSL SAP 7 (not recommended)
Fiio E10K
O2 Amps
Schiit Jot and Fulla 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elsjRoOt8AM

>>59457898
>He doesn't want a replacement cable, he wants a better one, hence why he was looking at custom cables.
What's wrong with the standard HD600 cable?

Is there any upgrade over a akg k712 mainly for gaming/movie purposes?
HD800?

>>59457954
Bandcamp, beatport, HDtracks, etc.
Support the artists.

>>59458006
>What's wrong with the standard HD600 cable?
I dunno, ask him.

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Out of curiosity: I'm currently waiting for a pair of these - do you consider them good or have I dun goofed?

>>59458133
Theyre good but the cable is a bit flimsy.

Most neutral closed headphone for ~$300 US?

Are DACs even worth it in this day and age? I can't hear the difference between my Modi/Magni 2 U and my PC/Phone

K702/HD 650

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Any one have experience with the Sennehiser Momentum 2.0, specifically the over ear ones?

At lest in terms of a on-the-go/don't have a amp pair.

>>59458229
Not sure why you included the magni if we're talking about DACs.

But generally, no. My chinese $8 AUD PCM2704 DAC sounded near identical to my Modi 2 for 1/20th the price.

>>59458283
I meant Amp/DAC in general, obviously if you -need- the power sure, but even my shitty motherboard can push my 650 to extremely loud levels

>>59458293
Volume (gain) sure, but how do you know it's not distorting the sound?

Hint: If there's sweet spots that "sound better" in the volume range, your motherboard isn't good enough.

Both my Fulla2 and Modi2+Magni2 do sound better than my motherboard's amp. Like night and day. That Crystal Audio 2 is both under-powered and colors the signal with more forward bass, weaker mids and treble.

>>59458293
Nah, amps can sometimes have fairly different sounds. My O2 sounded slightly colder than my Magni 2, though I wouldn't completely rule out my underlying bias.

>>59458390
>but how do you know it's not distorting the sound?

That's exactly my point, if the distortion is so little that I can't notice, what's the point in paying for extra equipment?

If you have issues with your motherboard then sire, 100% worth it; I'm just saying that I personally cannot tell the difference between any of them

>>59458411
>if the distortion is so little that I can't notice
If you'd notice the distortion when actually comparing

>, what's the point in paying for extra equipment?
Getting proper sound (your headphone's worth!). As in, non distorted to the point you can notice a difference.

>>59458390
How much more powerful is your Magni 2 than your Fulla 2 in real terms, like do you notice a big difference or need it to really drive certain headphones? I just bought the K612 (120 Ohm) and am trying to decide if the stack is worth the money cus it's a lot.

>>59459507
Fulla 2 will be more than enough for the K612

>>59459507
I'm the person you're actually asking.

HD600 are my hardest to drive phones. They're just fine on the Fulla2.

Onboard -> Magni2 -> HD600 sounds noticeably worse than Fulla2 -> HD600

Modi2 -> Magni2 -> HD600 sounds barely distinguishable from Fulla2 -> HD600. It is a better amp than Fulla2 just a tiny bit when the volume is painfully loud.

TL;DR: Fulla 2 is the device to get. Even if you eventually end up with a jotunheim or something else crazy, you'll still have an use for the Fulla 2.

>>59459507
The Fulla2 is the best value for the money Schiit sells, and very new; It was released by 2016 end.

The Jotunheim with the Balanced DAC module is very competitive to the Modi2+Magni2 uber stack and the O2, due to the absurdly high power and overall higher specs. The balanced gimmick is nice to have if you feel like playing with that.

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Why are they so perfect?

>>59460578
Why are they so ugly? Why do they clamp so god damn hard?

What song do you guys consider to be mastered the 'best'

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>>59460587
>Why are they so ugly?
They're beautiful in the way Thinkpads are.

>Why do they clamp so god damn hard?
Made-up issue, they stop clamping after about 2 days of use.

>>59460620
Soundtracks tend to be mastered pretty well. A lot of stuff by Hans Zimmer is nice.

>>59460626
>They're beautiful in the way Thinkpads are.
Thinkpads aren't beautiful. They're simple, but absolutely not beautiful.


>Made-up issue, they stop clamping after about 2 days of use.
I had used mine for hundreds of hours when at work. Never lost their clamp more than a tiny bit. Still hurt my ears for no matter what. I just gave up and switched to IEMs.

>>59460620
Idols.

Anything from idolm@ster and love live will simply sound awesome.

Like "aoi tori" and "datte datte aa mujou".

>>59460578
>>59460587
Eww, on ear. Instant headache.

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>Budget
Like $20-$40 usd, can flex a bit.

>Location
US

>Source
3.5mm jack or USB, using for computer.

>Type of headphone
Full sized

>Open or closed
I have no fucking clue. When I go over my past headphones maybe someone will know if they were open or closed

>Comfort level
I need something that's fine with glasses, at least after you get used to it.

>Sound signature
I really don't know what this means.

>Past headphones

1. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6502TM9630

This was a headset, and it was fine. It fit comfortably. Got it on sale though for like $25 and I have a seperate mic now so I'm only looking for headphones.

2. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/plantronics-rig-505-lava-over-the-ear-gaming-headset-black-orange/4315500.p?skuId=4315500

Got these as a gift the old ones died. the audio quality on them feels like shit even though all the specs are similar. I'm not sure what the difference is. I'd be happy if I could get something just like my old pair.

>>59461198
>$20-$40
>Full sized
>>>/g/csg has an infographic in the top post with cans in this price range. Try that. Most of the people in this thread spend that much on accessories for their phones, not the phones themselves, so we're probably not the right place to ask.

>>59461198
>Sound signature
>I really don't know what this means.

http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary
have fun

>>59461291
>have fun
My soundstage exploded.

>>59456857
I had the Hf5s. They were awesome. I want to get them again but they're a bit pricier now

>>59461198
>Like $20-$40 usd, can flex a bit.
Sure you're missing a zero in these figures?

>>59461198
Sennheiser Orpheus

>>59461389
>I want to get them again
Where do you use these "bury them so deep into my ears, King Arthur couldn't pull them out" IEMs? I'm really curious...

>>59456460
>They make paracord that is already empty, bruh.
You mean the sleeve? Where?

Ebay has tons of sellers of sleeves in all kinds of colors but they're not gutted paracord.

>>59457287
You don't know what you're talking about. Have you ever used $300+ set of good neutral cans? There's a huge difference in frequency response between them and junk. There have been dozens of studies and they all show that people prefer neutral frequency response of their headphones. Problem is that it's hard to make those, hence the price.

And there have been dozens of DBTs that show that people can easily distinguish between different headphones even if they can't see them.

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Reminder that headphones are inferior to speakers.

>>59457879
>>$32 (official):
Too long. I'm planning to make a 4' to 4.5' braided cable. That seems like a perfect length when you're moving around with a laptop.

>>59458267
>Any one have experience with the Sennehiser Momentum 2.0, specifically the over ear ones?
I wore them for over a year. They're great. I used to take a subway every day and people used to ask me all the time what those were. I guess theyr'e stylish...

>>59457824
The question was if they were "memes", not if they were ideal for consumer listening.
Still, imho a well produced album will always sound good on the V6.

>>59461465
Where? At home. In the unquiet library. They make really good earplugs. And they sound really nice. I don't mind them being deep though i wear earplugs to sleep every night.

>>59461721
>At home.
Why would you wear something so uncomfortable at home?

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Hey guys! What is your opinion on the dragonfly black? I saw one lightly used on ebay for $60 and impulse bought it because I wanted a dac/amp for my desktop aand for my phone+laptop(mobile).

I have hyperx clouds, dt990 250 ohm, ath-m50, and sony XBA-h1 iems. I just got a new motherboard and it claims it's on-board is capable of supporting up to 600ohm but there is a very very faint static over it so fuck that.

So if anyone owns one my questions are:
1. Do you like it?
2. Is it rough on your phone's battery?
3. Does your source legitimately affect audio or is it just snake oil?

I already bought it like I said.

>>59460578
>uncomfortable
>leaks a ton of sound at high volume
>V shaped sound
>lack detail
>no sound stage
>perfect

If you say so anon

>>59461558
I don't think anyone disagrees, provided the right situation.

>>59461588
Thanks

>>59461731
Again, I don't find them uncomfortable. Also I live with people and don't want to buy headphones

>>59461795
>Do you like it?
My friend has one, have listened to it briefly and it sounds great
>Is it rough on your phone's battery?
N/A
>Does your source legitimately affect audio or is it just snake oil?
In the right situation, yes. You've already proven that by stating that your motherboard has static.

>>59461859
>Again, I don't find them uncomfortable.
Try wearing them for hours on end.

>Also I live with people and don't want to buy headphones
Huh? This does not compute.

this bread is dead. new bread:

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>>59457866
Mechanical issues and software issues.

>Impedance doesn't work like that
Impedance is the relation of AC voltage to current, as in
Z(ω)= U(ω)/I(ω)

These can be decomposed into magnitude (or modulus) and phase shift.
Phase component shows how power is reflected back onto the output stage, a standard measurement would assume no phase shift.

>power output at 32Ω
I didn't look at the given output with a 32 ohm load.
The peak to peak voltage is given as well as the sustained current, which is enough to determine general bounds of output. You know, Watt's law. And again, power output is not as critical as you think it is. Headphones are voltage based devices.

>>59458267
I bought them, and I loved how they sounded. They're incredibly comfy too. The problem is that the padding is a little stiffer than other closed backs, so if you wear glasses like I do, you can't get a good seal... as a result, you lose a lot of bass, and they don't really block noise much. I used them around my house for a couple days and fell in love, but as soon as I went out to the subway, I realised I couldn't keep them.

Just keep that in mind.

>>59461907
I'm not that guy, but I'm the one that originally brought up Etymotic. I do wear them for hours on end! No discomfort at all.

>Where

-At home, I live in Manhattan and there's constant street traffic. I love open-back cans but they don't work for me now that I live here

-On the subway, which is loud af and even closed-back headphones don't block sound out without needing to listen to music pretty loudly

-Walking around the city. This one's tricky because you need to take a lot of care to be aware of your surroundings, since you can't hear traffic. I don't do this too often, just because it's not really safe. Sometimes I just leave them in and don't play music as a way of dampening all the horns and sirens.

-At the office. I work in an open-office techy place that gets loud, so they're nice to avoid distractions.

They do make really really good earplugs, they sound amazingly balanced, and because they block out everything else, you can listen to your music quietly. I like not having to blast music into my ears to hear it over the noise around me.

>>59461558
So use Ear Speakers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfWwCfN8TO0

>>59462123
>The peak to peak voltage is given as well as the sustained current, which is enough to determine general bounds of output. You know, Watt's law.
It's unfortunately not that simple with impedance kinda ohms. Given a table, it's possible to somewhat interpolate max output at a given impedance. If out of bounds of the table or if there's no table (like the e10k), then all bets are off.

>And again, power output is not as critical as you think it is. Headphones are voltage based devices.
They still won't move their drivers to the tune of voltage if they can't pull enough current. Artifacts from insufficient power are a thing.

>>59461082
Love live is great but it's not mastered that well. Many songs are overly sibilant and with nice headphones you can notice flaws in the recording quality.

>>59461198
Samson SR850

>>59464145
>sibilant
Absurd emphasis on vocals is definitely intentional.

See "datte datte aa mujou" around 4m :)

Conveniently, there's alternative mastering (24/96, which is useless per-se, except for the fact it provides an alternative to the standard CD version).

>nice headphones
That's what I call my HD600 on Modi2Uber + Magni2Uber setup.