/hpg/ - Headphone General

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DUCKSSS

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Waifu/Cans/Music. Let's see them.

My beloved audiotechnica ATH-T500's have recently died on me after many years of service.

I ended up buying DT 770's to replace them, and while some music sounds amazing with them, they aren't something I could listen to for many hours with ease as I could with my ATH-T500's. The sound feels too harsh and I have to take them off after a bit, so I'll be returning them. I also listen to quite a bit of podcasts and generally videos with people talking, and those sounded much better on the T500's.

Now I'm deciding between getting ATH-AVC500 (successor of T500's) or importing ATH-A500x for not much more. I know that the A500x are probably a better deal, but I wouldn't be able to return them if I don't like them. Any advice?

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>>59461992
Good morning, /hpg/.

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>>59461992

>>59461998
>Any advice?
dt770's have a v-shaped sound. that's why they suck for podcasts and vocals (those are mids).

If you like the fit and comfort, you could try EQing them to lower the bass and treble a bit. That would probably help. but beware that it's MUCH easier to turn neutral phones into v-shaped than vice-versa.

I saved this from somewhere... equalizer apo settings for DT770.

Filter 1: ON PK Fc 71,9 Hz Gain -7,4 dB Q 0,47
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 33,0 Hz Gain -2,3 dB Q 0,76
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 109 Hz Gain -1,2 dB Q 1,00
Filter 4: ON LS Fc 150 Hz Gain -3,9 dB
Filter 5: ON LS Fc 350 Hz Gain 4,9 dB
Filter 6: ON PK Fc 6 800 Hz Gain -3,5 dB Q 4,00
Filter 7: ON PK Fc 2 450 Hz Gain -3,1 dB Q 2,00
Filter 8: ON LS Fc 95 Hz Gain 4,6 dB
Filter 9: ON PK Fc 213 Hz Gain 1,8 dB Q 2,00
Filter 10: ON HS Fc 13 500 Hz Gain 7,6 dB
Filter 11: ON PK Fc 4 310 Hz Gain -0,9 dB Q 4,00
Filter 12: ON PK Fc 9 470 Hz Gain -2,6 dB Q 3,00
Filter 13: ON PK Fc 10 451 Hz Gain -2,3 dB Q 2,00
Filter 14: ON HS Fc 1500 Hz Gain -2 dB 

if you want to avoid all this trouble, save up for HD600.

>>59462044
Which one of those cans are your favorite? I was thinking about getting the x2 but want to know how it compares to the others.

>>59462139
>it's MUCH easier to turn neutral phones into v-shaped than vice-versa.
thanks for letting us know you're incompetent at EQing

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Just snagged a pair of Audio Technica M40fs for $3 at a yard sale. I need an adapter for the 3.5mm plug, as well as new pads as they are flaking pretty badly. I've been using the Superlux HD668Bs for a while now and they sound great, but they're uncomfortable as fuck. The M40fs feel extremely comfortable but I'm unsure about the sound vs the HD668Bs. Just wanted to know your thoughts on these two and also where I can get some cheap replacement pads that won't rape my wallet in the process? Thanks /hpg/.

>>59461913
lookin for decent closed headphones with detachable cord but for outside use. anybody has suggestions?

>>59462265
everytime I want to see that chick i want to bang her hard

ok thanks

>>59462255
>thanks for letting us know you're incompetent at EQing
no arguments. stay retarded, kiddo.

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>>59462265
ebay. buy velour ones from china for dirt cheap. you can also find compatible cables for dirt cheap too.

How decent of a quality sound can you get out of bog standard Music Bee & a motherboard?

I am not a wealthy fellow, but I'm noticing a better quality of amping between Music Bee & my copy of Clementine, I'd like to switch to Music Bee

But the sound is off as hell. I'm just using Direct Sound.

>>59462493

>amping

What my incompetent ass meant to say was the sound seemed fuller, and Clementine seems to put out better music at higher volumes then Music Bee does

Music Bee seems tinny I'm just listening through some JVC HA-RX700s & a cruddy 2.1 Vizio Soundbar setup.

Any advice guys?

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>>59461913
Friendly reminder that Schiit makes chink schiit.

>>59462265
They're better than 668b in most ways. Just get some ebay pads.

>>59462139
>>59462359
>MUCH easier to turn neutral phones into v-shaped than vice-versa

Holy shit, you must be retarded.

>>59462390
Link to those pads?

>>59462139
> but beware that it's MUCH easier to turn neutral phones into v-shaped than vice-versa

what
who gave you that information?

>>59462139
Can you please kindly fuck off? There's only so much shitty advice one anon can give.

>>59408564
>>59390030

I've got an USB Headset as a gift from a well meaning friend. And while certainly not the best in terms of quality, they're actually kinda comfy so I might actually end up using them, but I feel like they're somewhat quiet, is there a windows 7 option, or a driver I can edit to go above 100?

Headset in question is a G533

Repost since I didn't get any responses.

Most neutral closed headphone ~$300 US.

Basically looking for the HD600 endgame, but a closed equivalent.

>inb4 open is always better.
I know, but sometimes the world is loud.

>>59463003
that's not me you retarded autist.

>>59463219
Then maybe you should stop spouting autistic advice before other anons start mistaking you for someone else.

>>59462945
>>59463003
>>59462975
quit samefagging you buttmad retard.

yes, it's true: it's harder to make neutral-sounding headphones from V-shaped ones due to NON-LINEAR distortions!

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/headphone-measurements-explained-total-harmonic-distortion-plus-noise-part-1

stay mad, stay retarded.

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Daily reminder to ignore insane phillips shills.

>>59462838
>-On the subway, which is loud af and even closed-back headphones don't block sound out without needing to listen to music pretty loudly
>
>-Walking around the city. This one's tricky because you need to take a lot of care to be aware of your surroundings, since you can't hear traffic. I don't do this too often, just because it's not really safe. Sometimes I just leave them in and don't play music as a way of dampening all the horns and sirens.
You're insane. That's how people die.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2012/jan/16/headphones-can-endanger-life-study

http://www.ctvnews.ca/accidents-involving-headphone-wearing-pedestrians-on-the-rise-1.755142

About the only place where I think IEMs are acceptable are the gym. They're either super-dangerous or just too uncomfortable for all other situations. At home, headphones or speakers are 10x more pleasurable. For outside, IEMs are a death trap.

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>>59463253
>Anyone and all who opposes me are samefagging.
>>59463269
Stay retarded, friendo.

Are the X2s worth it at 250 dollars? If so, do i also need a dac or amp to drive it? If its not worth it, are there any similar priced (around 200 dollars) equivalents?

>>59463388
If you like bass, go for it; if you don't, there are better options out there.

>>59463445
Like what, also in terms of comfort?

>>59463388
If you want what they offer, probably more worth it to get them used for around $175.

>>59463328
Only for absolute cavemen. If you just take a second to look when crossing the road. I've lived in a city for my entire life, and the majority of the time I walk around with IEMs in. And because I'm not a fucking moron, I've never been run over or anything similar. It's not exactly hard.

Not sure why you greentexted him about the subway either. You've got literally no danger from having lowered hearing capability on a train.

>>59463388
>Are the X2s worth it at 250 dollars?
No. You can get them cheaper than that. They're 'decent' for mid-bassy open back headphones.

>If so, do i also need a dac or amp to drive it?
You need both for every headphone no matter what, when using digital files.

>If its not worth it, are there any similar priced (around 200 dollars) equivalents?
K7XX, though I'd suggest waiting for a sale on the X2's anyway.

Plenty of alternatives if you want to go for a more neutral sound.

>>59463454
Sennheiser HD 598s and AKG K702s are decent. They're both comfy, but the K702s may not fit everyone due to their rounded earcups and suspension system. Though, compared to the X2s, they barely have any bass.

>Budget
from like 10 to 60-70ish bucks
>Location
Finnland
>Source
Some generic USB soundcard
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Balanced, maybe a little more to the comfort side
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
HD201

>>59463521
>You need both for every headphone no matter what, when using digital files.

Except most phones and computers will drive them fine.

>>59463573
>Except most phones and computers will drive them fine.
Your phone has a DAC and an amp in it.

Is Z Reviews the Linus Tech Tips of headphones?

>>59463616
He's worse.

>>59463616
Z reviews is only for hype, anon.

>>59462843
Friendly reminder you won't find a better wyrd for less than $99.

Chapter 38: http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

Schiit makes a load of stuff. It doesn't mean you need them.

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>>59462843
Actual product page: http://schiit.com/products/wyrd

I love their FAQ :>

>>59463616
Linus tech tips actually does headphones too.

HD 598 & HD 598: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZuSeufCO7I
The Headphones to Buy. Period. - HD6XX Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzyMlJ6cERg
Schiit Stack (Magni + Modi) Headphone Amp and PC DAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-X4sDzLXw

And he recommends some good schiit.

>>59464096
>Actually linking this fags videos
>In 2017

The guy is a hardcore shill for everything he reviews.

>>59464138
I'm not a big fan but still watch LinusTechTips at times. It can be fun.

See who I was replying to for context on why I even posted that ;P

>>59462168
No favorite, per se. I just choose what headphone I want to use based on what I'm doing/listening to, or what mood i'm in.

>X2 compared to my other current headphones
All of my other headphones have rather different sound signatures, but if I were to choose one to compare the sound with, it would probably be the M40x. The X2 has a tad more bass presence, sounds more spacious and refined (open vs closed), and the treble doesn't sound as peaky, imo (though FR graphs (korean golden ears) seem to contradict this, there's something in the treble of the m40x that causes fatigue for me after 1-2 hours, and I'm generally a fan of bright sounding headphones). I also wouldn't label the as X2 dark sounding, as others in previous threads have said.

The X2 is also better built and noticibly more comfortable than the m40x, at least on my head, due to significantly less clamping pressure and much better ear pads.

All that said, I use my X2 the most out of all my other headphones, as I find them the best all-rounder, between listening to music, watching movies, and playing games.

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>>59463269
Daily reminder to ignore Shit shills.

>MUH FULLA2
>MUH POWWWAH
>MUH BULLSHIT
>MUH LIES

Can I get some earbuds rec? Im in desperate need for a good pair for workouts

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>>59461992
Good afternoon, /hpg/.

>>59464250
>Budget

>Location

>Source

>Type of headphone

>Open or closed

>Comfort level

>Sound signature

>Past headphones


We'll need more than just "I need earbuds pls" without any info on what you want.

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>>59461992
>>59462044
>>59462096
>>59464274
<3 you all.

>>59464247
>muh schiit shills! Schiit is shiiit! Listen to me! LISTEN TO ME!!!
Daily reminder to keep personal vendetta out of the thread.

Yeah, NwAvGuy's still pissed off that head-fi banned him, but he deserved it for behaving like a moron.

Chapter 12: Schiit Goes Evil? http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up

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How much would you pay for 600 ohm AKG 240 in good condition?
pic related

>>59464296
I now just ignore retards who can't even read the first post of a thread and can't follow instructions. There's no point in helping ungrateful idiots. Just let them be.

Also, just ignore all poorfags who want a BMW for $50. Point them to >>>/g/csg and be done with them.

>>59464350
$30-40

>>59464296
I didn't know earbuds were that serious. I don't know. Anything below 100 bucks budget wise. I don't really have any preferences or anything, im just looking for people's recommendation based on earbuds they've used before and liked.

>>59464350
Are you going for the sextett? If so it has a silver trim. The gold 600 Ohm monitor is a different headphone. Also the 600 ohm DF is a different model as well.

Price depends on condition and if its a early/mid/late production. They usually go for $100-$200. They can go for more though if they are in really nice condition with all original parts and are an EP.

HEADPHONES, DACS AND AMPS: Why oh why.

The DAC: Converts digital to analog. Your computer does this already if it has an analog output. So does your phone. Generally, this is a well understood problem that's more than solved by now, and cheaply so. Some people prefer to do it externally because it ensures that the result is the same regardless of the source.

Generally, your computer will have a DAC chip that is definitely good enough, but many motherboards will fuck up on the surrounding electronics, and you might hear noise as you, say, move a window around in the screen. A decent external DAC is a portable way to solve this. An internal sound card will solve this too. A bad (classic chink) USB DAC will actually make things worse, as USB power is low quality and chink cheapen on filtering it to an usable state. A good one will do its job and that's it, you'll typically forget it's there.


The AMP: Provides power as necessary, a little gain (a few more dB top volume, unnecessary unless music mastered at crazy low volume, or you're deaf), and a convenient knob to decrease the gain. Typically, your headphones receive audio as an analog signal. Voltage represents the amplitude of the wave. Your cans will output more or less volume at a given voltage (so called "sensitivity") and pull more or less current (amperes) to actually move the driver (active component that makes the sound). Some headphones are more efficient than others, unrelated to sound quality.

Generally, your source can provide more than enough volume, so the added volume (the "gain") will likely be superfluous. A knob is nice. You'll need an amp only if your cans pull more current than the source's builtin amp provide, which results on distortion (muffling).

* https://nwavguy.blogspot.ie/2011/09/more-power.html
* http://audiobot9000.com/

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>>59464384
Here is picture of the one I want to buy. It's on auction so I need to know when to stop bidding.

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>>59464340
Found the shill. Kek.

>MUH FULLA2
>MUH POWWWAA
>MUH LINKS TO GOSPEL BOOK OF SHIT ON SHILL-FI THAT TELLS IT LIKE GOD OF SHIT INTENDED
>MUH BUTTHURT

>>59464421
For those I wouldn't pay more than $50-$60. The pic shows it has velour pads on instead of the stock pleather (which may change the sound but increase comfort). That may be worth more to you.

>>59464427
KEKEKEKE
protip: Cans need juice.

Schiit is pretty competitive, specially at their lower range. You might like them more or less, but that is fact.

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>>59464458
There are pleather pads too. Thanks for the info.

>>59464427
desu the schiit stack is better than its competitors
fulla 2 is okay if you need the line out/power

otherwise schiit is shit

>>59464427
That device sure does look good. Finding nothing but positive feedback.

I have been pondering whether to get an amp for a while. As this is inexpensive, I'm thinking I will grab one soon.

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>>59464427
Is this your nightmare?

>>59464523
^^^^
Hpg freaks out when something gets popular seems like.

Was amusing to watch the tide change on the SHP 9500's as more people recommended them.

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>>59464602
>>59464626
>All that schilling!

>MUH SHILL-FI BIBLE
>MUH WYRD AUDIOPHOOL BULLSHIT
>MUH USB FILTERING AND DEVICES MADE FROM UNICORN DUST
>MUH GOSPEL CHAPTERS THAT PROVE EVERYONE WRONG

Embarrassing. I sincerely hope you're at least getting paid to shill this much.

>>59464720
I'm not sure why you're getting so ass-blasted over me posting a shitty meme picture of some retard who bought every Schiit thing under the sun and made a pile.

Get some help, anon.

>>59463951
>They still won't move their drivers to the tune of voltage if they can't pull enough current
The scenario presented is plainly not possible. Electric tension throughout a conductor cannot be sustained without charge displacement.
Current and voltage are normally related as stated by Ohm's law, which headphones follow very well.
It's a simple substitution for Ohmic devices to go from
>voltage*current
To
>(voltage^2)/impedance

Describing the situation as voltage or current dependent comes from the ideal constant voltage or current emitter, one with infinitely low and infinitely high output impedance respectively. Devices are in general closer to the voltage source and make the most out of of the driver's back EMF. At very least, the headphone's performance revolves around the assumption of the voltage source load.

The normal utility of tables and the like is to get a sense of general current and voltage limits. There are ways to make the situation more complicated such that these simple bounds don't work, such as with a highly reactive load, but the table doesn't test these.

Anybody here from the Philippines know where I can get velour pads in Manila locally?

>>59464906
Just buy some off ebay you gronk.

>>59464748
*every cheapfag schiit under the sun.

What a pile of schiit!

>>59464931
>ebay

>>59464964
fuck off
taobao if you're that poor then cunt

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>>59464985
Kek. I'm not even that, anon.

Just try giving better advice next time, you silly mongol.

>>59465021
Awesome DOM editing skills.

>>59464931
I don't like buying online. Especially in this country.

>>59465049
Nice excuses, Rajeesh.

You know, it doesn't take a poo in the loo to know poo in the loo advice :^)

Carbo Tenore's arrived today.
Impressed by the sound at first glance; they're not bass cannons like I was worried. They'll definitely do for wearing while commuting.

Highs and mids are satisfactory for $40 IEM's, comfort isn't awful, but I'll probably upgrade tips.

I'm guessing the comply tips are the best option for these?

I need some advice. Which should I choose between AKG K712 Pro and Sennheiser HD 650?

>>59464377
Tennmak Pro
Carbo Tenore
Soundmagic E30
MEE M6 Pro
Etymonic HK5/MC5
Vsonic VSD Series
Vsonic GR07
Shure SE215

>>59463328
It really isn't. It's how dumbasses die. I don't use my phone when I have IEMs in and I'm walking around traffic, I always double-check roads before and as I'm crossing, and I keep an eye on people around me. When you live in a city, you keep your guard up to some degree anyway.

>Second article
Dumbshit walked across a train track, clearly without even looking for a train. You can see them coming from literally minutes away.

I use mine at the gym too. And like I, and the other anon said, we don't find them uncomfortable.

>>59464377
Get the Carbo Tenores, they're really low profile, sound nice, and isolate well. Good for the gym.

>>59465439
AKG is a favorite among anime girls so I'd say go with the K712.

>>59465439
Depends on your preferred sound sig.

Are these Marshall Major II's (for $50) probably fake?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5DR4TD9072

The seller had another listing of these at the same price, with a review stating that they're "super fragile" and look "glued":
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5DR4TD9080

>>59465530
Retard, if you can't hear shit around you, you can't hear incoming danger. Things fall off building, cars weer off track, people on bikes drive like madmen.

Having IEMs that completely isolate you is as dangerous as being deaf and walking around the town. Maybe even more so because deaf people have trained themselves to be extra careful and they watch around themselves all the time.

I see Darwin in your future.

>>59465976
>Things fall off building
Well if that happens and I don't have headphones on, I'm still going to get hit because I won't hear it and react fast enough. A few weeks ago I was walking to lunch, no headphones on, when a huge chunk of ice crashed on the ground in front of me silently.

>cars weer off track
Cars would need to be able to go fast enough to veer in NYC...

> people on bikes drive like madmen.
I see them, delivery guys are especially nuts, but that's why I keep an eye on them and stay aware of my surroundings.

There are definitely times when I take them out, but when I'm walking along the sidewalk around Times Square and through the subway stations, there's no good argument against them.

>>59461992
>Cans
>>59462168
>cans
>>59464407
>cans
>>59464523
>Cans
Try-hard "do I fit in yet" jargon.

>>59466194
Another bad thing about IEMs that seal well, shit like Etymotic, is that you can destroy/damage your ear drum just by yanking on the cord. There have been cases of people who burst their eardrums by snagging on something and is caused the cord to pull an eartip out quickly which created vacuum and burst the eardrum.

And then there's infections...

After reading so much about IEMs, I'd never use them again. There's simply no need and they're super-dangerous. Once you lose your hearing, that's it. You're fucked till you die.

>>59466315
Etymotic in ears aren't exceptional at sealing with the internal depressurizer and all, although tri-flange tips might be. There are a few IEMs that are probably a bit riskier, and more prone to damaging themselves.
Perforated ear drums don't leave you permanently deaf as they do heal over time. Still not recommended.
This is unlike the cochlea, which degrades as soon as you are born.

Budget
~$200 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
My phone or.focusrite interface
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I found my M50s perfectly comfortable
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
M50x's, they were stolen and I'm looking for something to replace them (are they still the best in the price range?).

>>59466198
Nothing like listening to idol shit on my HD600 cans while drinking a can of boss coffee, black.

>>59466810
are you the same idolfag from the last thread?
what headphones do you own?

My draagonfly black just got here. I'm in awe at the increase in SQ. I know it's half placebo but HOLY SHIT. My motherboard advertises the fuck out of it's on board sound card but this thing makes all of my headphones sound so much better. Bass is much tigher and the vocals sound so much more organic, you can really make out the tone of the voice well.
Best $60. My dt990s should be here monday for the sick treble.

What's another low-mid range headphone I could pick up for more diversity? I have an ath m50, hyper x cloud, sony xba-h1, and dt990 now. I'm thinking the HD 599s or aKG 7xx

>>59467146
HE 400I

>>59467015
HD380 Pro, HD598, HD600, Schiit Uber stack and fulla 2.

Also, umi best girl.

>there are people who unironically recommend the X2s over the HD600s

>>59467333
Them's fighting words.
I guess part of the reason why you don't notice sibilance in idol songs is because you don't have any really bright headphones. AKG K701 + Schiit stack is complete ear rape with some idol songs.

>>59467505
>There are people who prefer different sound signatures

What is a upgrade over the k712 for gaming/movies?

HD800, ad2000x, ???

>Want a nice multi driver, acrylic UIEM at a good price.
>Aliexpress is a gold mine full of them.
>Check reviews and 90% of them are Japanese buyers giving 5 stars and saying "Nice sound!" without any other details.
>Don't want to spend hundreds on something that will be near impossible to resell if I don't like the sound signature.

Goddamn it. I just want some nice high end IEMs for comfy home use but don't want to spend the money on the crazy prices that western companies are charging.

>>59467520
I swear by FLAC source, transparent dac/amp and neutral headphones.

Idol hell and pure audio hell... I'm fucked for life.

>>59467146
>Dragonfly Black
I wouldn't have suggested it, but the mind can do funny things. Ever hear the sound of a magic speaker cable that wasn't even plugged in?
Since I had so much fun being unable to figure out a headphone for you, let's wait for the DT990 to come in for more data.

Reading your posts reminded me of this track for whatever reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrpKXMpg8DQ


>>59467763
>multi driver, acrylic UIEM
Why do you want this, do you really think of it as "high-end"?

>>59467905
In the same boat, friend.

When I finally graduate college I'm going to live like a turbo povertyfag for a year and then buy a set of Sennheiser Orpheuses to listen to idolshit.

It's gonna be great.

>>59468098
Sounds like a plan indeed.

I've been an engineer for a while (cs). Currently working as sysadmin in eu, doing a bunch of things at once to increase my funding, and trying to get a job in tokyo so that I can go live closer to them seiyuu... and perhaps buy some STAX earspeakers while at it.

Life is good, but it will definitely get even better.

>>59468079
I got it for $60 and I needed a dac that I could also use on the bus.
This song is great I love the do-do. dododo rhythm through out the song. It misses my treble gspot by just a little bit but it's still a really pleasing song.

>>59468155
The department of social services pays my rent at a three-quarters sober house and I spend my student loans on silicon and headphones. u guys r plebian 2 the max

>>59468235
>not having ur mommy and daddy pay for everything

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daily reminder to keep it safe when using headphones. heating damage is cumulative and once you lose it, you'll never get it back. stay safe.

>>59468254
no living relatives :DDDDD


fug

>>59468261
60 minutes? seriously? I have headphones on for the majority of the day.

>>59468266
at least you have an excuse to be an audio autist with mental issues

>>59468281
SPEAK LOUDER ANON, I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER HERE

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>Budget
60$ CDN
>Location
Canacuck
>Source
Phone/fiio k1
>Type of headphone
iem
>Sound signature
Doesnt matter
>Past headphones
v-moda vibe, v-moda remixes, chink shit

Honestly i just want durable ones, where one piece doesnt just die out after a couple months, (both my v-moda's died because of winter) And im totally up for random cheap good chink shit.

pic is of some MM30I's i noticed on sale on ncix

>>59468284
In all seriousness I do have some pretty serious mental issues because of it. I'm on antidepressants now and suboxone for the 5 year long heroin addiction that was borne of it but it's not working :|.

I practice escapism in the extreme. Every moment of every day, sober or otherwise, I need to be removed from reality in some way. Music is the back bone of that but I always do something else that's also engaging while listening.

I suspect that there are a bunch of audio, specifically headphones, that chase better hardware hoping to get a heightened sense of escape from their problems.

>>59468261
These assume easy to drive low impedance $10 normie shitbuds or BEETZ.
60% volume on my phone is barely listenable with my headphones. With shitbuds 30% is too loud.

>Budget
Don't have one. Just want to know what the best purchase would be.
>Location
United States
>Source
My Iphone more than likely.
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed perferably. Im looking for some kind of noise cancelling headphones that i can wear on planes and such.
>Comfort level
Not particularly import.
>Sound signature
Im not an expert in any of these terms. If it helps I had a pair of Beats Studios when i was in middle school that i enjoyed. Just dont want to kill my hearing.
>Past headphones
I use my Sennheiser PC 363D's for gaming. I broke my ATH M50's about a year ago.

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>>59468360
>With shitbuds 30% is too loud.
That's what most people use. I did some searching... came across this article:

>"As a rule of thumb, you should only use MP3 devices at levels up to 60% of maximum volume for a total of 60 minutes a day," says Dr. Foy. "The louder the volume, the shorter your duration should be. At maximum volume, you should listen for only about five minutes a day."

>What are the signs of hearing loss?
>"The type of hearing loss due to headphone use is typically gradual, cumulative and without obvious warning signs," explains Dr. Foy. "A hearing test and a medical examination are the only way to truly diagnose hearing damage."

>Ringing, roaring, hissing or buzzing in the ear.
>Difficulty understanding speech in noisy places or places with poor acoustics.
>Muffled sounds and a feeling that your ear is plugged.
>Listening to the TV or radio at a higher volume than in the past.

>How can I prevent hearing loss?
>"First and foremost, follow the 60/60 rule in regards to percentage of maximum volume and duration of time," says Dr. Foy. Additionally, he suggests using older style, larger headphones that rest over the ear opening instead of earphones that are placed directly in your ear. "Whether using headphones or earphones, moderation is key," says Dr. Foy. "Avoiding excessive use of listening devices altogether will go a long way in preventing hearing loss."

http://www.osteopathic.org/osteopathic-health/about-your-health/health-conditions-library/general-health/Pages/headphone-safety.aspx

>>59468460
Bose QC 25
Bose QC 35
Sony - 1000X
ATH-ANC9

take your pick

>>59468589
ATH-ANC9

But why those specifically?

>>59468621
compared to which ones...?

>>59468694
Nevermind.

Adding to my original comment, I meant the Sony 1000Xs. I would pick those over the four. I wouldn't trust Bose's build quality, and the Audio-Technicas has mixed reviews. The Sonys are pretty coloured, though, but I guess that depends on the wearer.

>>59461913
>Budget
Under $50
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, might get an external DAC
>Type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
either
>Comfort level
good
>Sound signature
Doesn't matter, anything reasonable.
>Past headphones
$20 monoprice 8323 headphones that I liked.

Please help friendos

>>59468865
Bose QC 35 are best at ANC. Rest come close. They also sound the best with ANC turn on. Bose build quality is fine.

>>59468906
>under $50
>>>/g/csg see the infographic there.

>>59468977
>>59468906
Be nice, anon. He can grab Superlux HD668Bs.

>>59468977
>>59469023

no, no, thank you both! this seems like a pretty good set of choices. I'm liking a few.

>>59468959
The Bose QC25 feels kind of cheap to me compared to other similarly priced products. Nothing that screams chink shit, but nothing that would amaze me either.

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What am I in for?

>>59469023
but that's chinkshit and recommended there too.

>>59469099
I didn't even know they had a list. Forget what I said.

>>59469091
Mid-range and barely any bass, if that's the right model.

>>59468959
>>59468865
The Sony set trumps the Bose set on isolation.
Another model to consider, the Senn PXC 550.

>>59469091
No one would know.
It can be either V-shaped with strong bass and highs, or have massive bass rolloff and spiky highs.

>>59465741
They are around those prices

hello /hpg/
I'm having ear impressions for my triple driver CIEM tomorrow. I will be sure to tell you how they are when i have them.
Also downloading New Order's "Power, Corruption and Lies" in 24/96, keen to see how it sounds on my LCD2.2

Quick question, are the OP bullets iem's any good? How do they compare to the carbo tenore?

Are the hinges on the ATH-M40X normally loose as fuck? They feel fine when they're on my head, but when I'm holding them or they're around my neck the cans just flap around everywhere. They've been like that since I got them. Not a huge problem but I would like to know if it's normal or if there's any way to fix it.

>>59468079

Well the acrylic is just an aesthetic preference, I'd rather not have plastic housing on something expensive.

The multi-driver desire is out of curiosity after only owning single dynamic driver IEMs. I don't really care about the driver count, 2-3 would satisfy me if the sound is to my tastes.

>Budget
$140
>Location
New Zealand
>Source
Phone, computer, 3.5mm.
>Type of headphone
Full sized, over ear, with plenty of room for my big-ass ears. I want something particularly rigid, none of this chintzy plastic, preferably cast aluminium or fibreglass, but anything rigid will do. Rigidity matters more than sound quality.
>Open or closed
Either, preferably open
>Comfort level
Mid to high.
>Sound signature
Neutral to bassy.
>Past headphones
Shitty Plantronics gaming headset, shitty Panasonic earbuds.

>>59468261
lmao this is so full of shit.
60% volume means nothing. I can plug my IEMs into my PCM2704 DAC and 60% volume would kill my ears in minutes. 60 minutes thing is dumb too. a bus can easily have a higher noise level than listening to headphones in a relatively quiet environment. i've been to audiologists and when I ask them about this sort of stuff, they've all said that below 75-80 decibel is fine for extended use.

and the "if you can't hear someone speak at conversational level 3 feet away your music is too loud" is even dumber. doesnt take into account any variation in isolation

i also like how they show canalphones with silicone tips and then state how earbuds block less ambient noise

>>59469091
A bad seal.

>>59471357
My M50's aren't and I've had them for years. See if there are any screws that you can tighten or something.

>>59471714
>if it didn't happen to me, it doesn't happen to others
you're dumb.

even the inventor of original IEMs says they're bad for hearing and destroy ears. he invented a safer IEM as a result.

IEMs are fucking bad. so many issues with them. would recommend them to my worst enemies only.

>>59471773
>>if it didn't happen to me, it doesn't happen to others
When did I say that that?

>even the inventor of original IEMs says they're bad for hearing and destroy ears. he invented a safer IEM as a result.
I don't see how the first IEM has anything to do with current day IEMs. Also, source?

>IEMs are fucking bad. so many issues with them. would recommend them to my worst enemies only.
Explain?

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>>59471822
>When did I say that that?
implied

>I don't see how the first IEM has anything to do with current day IEMs. Also, source?
sure as shit does. IEMs don't differ much at all. if anything, they're now even worse because they're much more powerful.

Watch him explain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz6dtjMokq4

>Explain?
Body treats IEMs as foreign bodies since thye're inside of the ear canal. IEMs also severely increase the amount of bacteria that gets multipled inside of your ears which can lead to ear infections. ear infections are extremely bad if you don't treat them with antibiotics and you can easily lose your hearing.

pulling out IEMs quickly is again, really fucking bad, since the vacuum that's formed due to IEM seal can rupture your ear drum (pic related). this has happened to hundreds of cyclists, joggers and so on. finally, IEMs produce way too much SPL and many dBs above the acceptable limit. that shit can damage your hearing quick.

all in all, fuck IEMs. it's way too easy to fuck up your ears with them.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/18/science/la-sci-teens-hearing-loss-20100818

>One in every five teens now has at least a slight hearing loss, which can affect learning, speech perception, social skills development and self-image; one in every 20 has a more severe loss.

>The authors of the report in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. eliminated ear infections and exposure to loud noises in the environment as causes for the hearing loss, but could not identify a specific cause. A recent Australian study, however, found a 70% increased risk of hearing loss associated with the use of headphones to listen to portable music, and many experts suspect they are the primary cause of hearing loss in teens.

>>59471357
It's normal, my m40x has been loose as hell since the day I bought them. Pretty sure the m50x has different/more refined hinges.

>>59471949
>implied
Where?

>sure as shit does. IEMs don't differ much at all. if anything, they're now even worse because they're much more powerful.
An IEM can't be 'more powerful' other than a higher limit on the physical driver, which is irrelevant since you'd lose your hearing before that limit is reached with extended use. More efficient, sure, but that just means you don't turn the volume up like a fucking moron would.

>Watch him explain:
He doesn't explain anything other than a stupidly scaled up and non-realistic representation. A good IEM prevents this just by not sealing entirely. The rest of the video is just marketing for circumstances which IEMs aren't designed for. The woman even explicitly notices how there is less isolation and she can hear what is going on around her, which is what you don't want with IEMs, most of the time.

>Body treats IEMs as foreign bodies since thye're inside of the ear canal. IEMs also severely increase the amount of bacteria that gets multipled inside of your ears which can lead to ear infections. ear infections are extremely bad if you don't treat them with antibiotics and you can easily lose your hearing.
I'll agree that this is an issue, but a very easily avoided issue. Washing tips with warm soap is plenty enough. I've had hearing infections [not from IEMs], and I know how bad that shit sucks, but if instead of being a fucking moron you treat your IEMs right they're perfectly fine.

1/2

>>59471949
>pulling out IEMs quickly is again, really fucking bad, since the vacuum that's formed due to IEM seal can rupture your ear drum (pic related). this has happened to hundreds of cyclists, joggers and so on.
Not going to argue against the point here. They certainly are a risk, but this is why traditional shaped over ear cable'd IEMs exist. Yanking on the cable will pull against the ear, and if hard enough, will pull the IEM out in a more sideways motion, breaking the seal safely.

>finally, IEMs produce way too much SPL and many dBs above the acceptable limit. that shit can damage your hearing quick.
Irrelevant. So can headphones and speakers.


>all in all, fuck IEMs. it's way too easy to fuck up your ears with them.
If you act stupid, yeah sure.

>http://articles.latimes.com/2010/aug/18/science/la-sci-teens-hearing-loss-20100818
>One in every five teens now has at least a slight hearing loss, which can affect learning, speech perception, social skills development and self-image; one in every 20 has a more severe loss.

>The authors of the report in the Journal of the American Medical Assn. eliminated ear infections and exposure to loud noises in the environment as causes for the hearing loss, but could not identify a specific cause. A recent Australian study, however, found a 70% increased risk of hearing loss associated with the use of headphones to listen to portable music, and many experts suspect they are the primary cause of hearing loss in teens.

None of these are directly linked to IEMs.

2/2

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>>59463208
IMO -
BD DT 770, 80 ohm, for Home (w/DAC & Amp, of course)

AudioTechnia ATH-M50x for portable - this Phone blew my mind! ULTRA-sensitive, it picks up details in MP3s that I miss w/the 770s from SACD. But very harsh if driven from a good amp.

>>59472214
Are you drunk? He's asking for neutral and you've suggested him two heavily V-shaped headphones.

>But very harsh if driven from a good amp
Makes no sense.

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>>59472158
>>59472181
>all that buttthurt and DENIAL OF REALITY
damn, son... you went full retard. time to go to bed.

>>59472368
Not an argument.

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>>59472389
Claiming to be smarter than audiologists and denying reality isn't an argument either. Actually, it's just an indication of being mentally retarded.

>>59472443
>Claiming to be smarter than audiologists
Not once did I claim this.

>denying reality
Where did I do this?

Just ordered a Fulla 2.
Thus begins my descent into (likely mid-fi) audiophile hell.

>>59472555
And your headphones?

>>59472622
Nothing worth mentioning, SHP's and CB-1, but my onboard crackles a bit.

Gonna get HD600's next paycheck.

>>59472653
Nice choice, anon.

>>59472368
>>59472443
This is your argument?

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How did i do /hpg/?

>>59473012
>X2
could have done better.

>>59473029
Not anon, but they're pretty good headphones if you like bass and such.

>>59473012
A bit expensive for X2's, but you did okay. Just don't expect sub-bass in reasonable levels.

>>59473069
Anon from >>59473012 here
Do i need a dac or amp to drive the X2s?

>>59473052
>Not anon, but they're pretty good headphones if you like bass and such.
No one likes bass for a longer period of time. There's research papers out on it... linked in Wiki. It's a crap headphone.

>>59473012
refund the modmic and get a vmoda mic. x2's have a removable 3.5 mm which is perfect for the vmoda.

>>59473122
I am planning to connect them to a dac or amp at some point, so i dont know if that is a wise idea.

>>59473109
You don't need an amp/DAC. You should get a Vmoda BoomPro instead.

>>59473109
Yes, but you need one for every headphone when using digital files.

If you mean external DAC/Amp, probably not. Unless you can hear hiss/noise with your desktop motherboard/soundcard you should be fine for DAC. X2's are also quite efficient so an external amp probably won't be much use.

>>59473131
Yeah If you're planning on using a DAC/amp, don't get a boompro. You'll have to use a splitter and you'll end up with a ground loop.

>>59473113
I don't, but:
>What is sound preference?
Stop memeing your preferred sound signature, anon.

>>59473168
He could plug them into his computer when he uses the mic, and into the amp when he isn't.

>>59473654
Kinda just a pain in the ass. He'd just be better off with the Modmic as long as he doesnt need to remove it often.

>Budget
~$300
>Location
US
>Source
Phone, mobo, Fulla 2
>Type of headphone
Over Ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Important
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
280 Pro, SHP 9500, Status CB-1, Takstar 2050

Considering the MSR7 and DT250 so far.

Would prefer open, but I live with loud surroundings, so I have to settle for closed, don't want ANC.

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>>59461992

>>59467600
Those would both be a massive step down in comfort

>>59467600
Neither. Just keep the AKG.

>>59472653
Excellent taste, sir.

>>59472555
Awesome. Can drive most headphones out of there and can throw around as it's small and pocket-able.

Will be interesting to try them on the SHP/CB-1 and see whether it already makes a difference there.

The HD600 does of course need the gain, nevermind the power.

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Bomb all manufacturers who use this.

>>59474696
Use what? Angled pads? Leather pads?

>>59474696
Eh, good pleather isn't that bad. Its actually more durable than real leather in the long run. The problem is that most companies use shit pleather. Leather just breathes naturally. Pleather doesn't unless properly made.

Though real leather or sheepskin is actually pretty cheap. I buy off-cuts and make my own pads. $22 AUD for about 10 pairs of pads or so. Memory foam itself is the expensive part, so I just use some high density low hardness standard foam.

>>59474794
pleather pads

>>59470856
pls respond

Hopefully someone is awake. Dragonfly black guy from earlier. I do not have a usb extender so I'm using a cable that came with my hyperx clouds. It's a smartphone 3.5mm jack that does audio and mic split into green and pink. I have just the green plugged into the dragonfly because I need the cable length. Will this negatively affect sound quality at all?

>>59475393
>Cables affecting audio quality
Don't go down that path.

Unless your cable has tens of meters, or is outright broken, it should be alright.

>>59462390
What velour pads fit the shp9500's?

>>59473113
>There's research papers out on it
Various publications by Olive et al. would suggest a bass boost is desirable. The boost can vary from anywhere between 5-10dB, even if there a concern of the moving target..

>>59474214
What do you mean by gain and power?

>>59476359
>What do you mean by gain and power?
Gain: Volume added (+n dB) or substracted (-n dB) by an element in the audio chain (typically your amp).

Power: Literally, power. In electricity, typically voltage*current (V*A). Power is what allows your headphones active element (the "driver") to move and produce sound. The audio signal is your voltage, and the headphones will pull more or less current as needed. This current is provided by the amp inside your source or the external amp if you're fortunate enough to have one.

Jesus on E's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MjNsNW8DvM

>>59475218
>>59470856
Anyone?

>>59476685
Sorry I don't know anon, I'll just leave this reply out of pity

Anyone else here find themselves sensitive to highs? Even with the HD650 I'm finding some songs unbearable...

>>59476898
lolhow
650's are veiled man

eq the highs down

>>59476997
Veiled my arse

some songs are so bad they cause my head to jolt down 3 or 4cm when the highs hit

>>59477022
>some songs are so bad they cause my head to jolt down 3 or 4cm when the highs hit

You've got some fucked up ears then, anon. Just look at measurements. 650's aren't bright by any means.

LCD-2 Pre-Fazor might be an option for you if you've got some spare cash. Though again, just EQ the 650's.

Budget: $20
What should I get?

>>59476898
I don't like the word "veiled". There are lots of headphones that do not sound clear, but have piercing high end. I find this to be the usual case with most so-called bright headphones.
What range with the HD 650 is giving you trouble? Use a sine sweep to help point this out.

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>>59477336
I just tried this http://www.audiocheck.net/audiofrequencysignalgenerator_sweep.php

With these settings (see image)

File https://my.mixtape.moe/lckkdk.wav

But the sound it make is so piercing it's unbreakable after the 5K range (measuring with Adobe Audition)

Do you have anything that doesn't sound so awful?

>>59461913
Maki is a slut and will probably rides black dicks everyday when she goes study abroad after graduation.

>>59477427
Just EQ that shit down.

The earlier 650 is warm sounding but there is a more recent revised model with boosted highs.

>>59477501
Source?

Few questions

>What sound sig are the KSC75s? They sound bright af to me.

>Are the Superlux 668/681s good? And can I rely on them to last more than a year?

>>59477427
With the HD 650, likely trouble points are somewhere around 5kHz, and potential problems coarsely an octave above that.

This might be a bit of stretch, but try a much, much slower sweep. Generate it with Audition if you have to.
If we're going to stick with the online generator, I like using one octave per 10 seconds.
This time, try to focus around 2k to 20kHz or so.

>>59477581
Thanks for the advice

>>59473859
nice waifu

>Budget
Around 100$
>Location
Poland
>Source
Mostly phone, occasionaly laptop
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open, i want to hear whats going on around me
>Comfort level
Not so important
>Sound signature
I dont know?
>Past headphones
Some shitty skullcandy's

>>59476481
>Gain
You seem to have that idea. In the analog domain, gain is dictated by voltage.
>typically voltage*current
If you avoid the fluid dynamics, it is just voltage*current.
Situations in which the Lorentz Force breaks down aren't a consideration in audio, despite the many other possible concerns we can have.
You can't raise the voltage drop over a headphone without the associated increase in current.

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What should I buy if I'm practically deaf?

>>59477833
the most comfortable thing you can find

>>59476898
What source/dac/amp/whatever?

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I need suggestions on a pair of Heaphones that are very similar to the Takstar HI2050's.

Mine bit the dust yesterday and as much as I want to just buy a new pair, I just can't find one available online or in Canadian stores. I just want something that's open, over the ear and very comfortable. Hell, I'd settle for something that has oval shaped cups just so I can put the Takstar cups on some new headphones.

>>59477544
>>Are the Superlux 668/681s good?
Dunno about the 668/681s, but my 669 is around six years old now. Only thing that needs replacing are the ear pads

>>59477833
Hearing aids.

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who /tinnitus/ here?

>>59468261
Good thing I listen to everything at like 30% on my PC.

>>59477906
You can get ISK HF2010, but apparently they have shitty drivers in them.

>>59477874
Mod/Magni 2 non Uber

>>59477906
Fill out the form my man.

>>59477833
HD600 + an amp with a shitload of power & gain.

>>59477921
Me

It's awful, I have it constantly for almost 8 years now. It's manageable during the day, but when it gets quiet at night it's like I have IEMs in my ears playing white noise

>>59477906
DT880.

looks like that shinkshit you had is just a cheapass knockoff of it.

>>59477959
That should be transparent enough (shit's proud of magni's flatness over 20hz-20khz range).

So yeah... to do with your ears and whatever song you're playing. I was irritated by treble at first, but I don't care anymore. If you can't get past that naturally, just EQ it down.

>>59477921
Nice pic choice for the topic.

>>59478003
Probably my ears considering I posted >>59477975

>>59477951
Honestly I'm not all that concerned about sound quality.
My headphones always break within a year due to cable mishaps.
I'm stuck using a pair of Coby CVH42's until I get something new.
Thank you for recommending the iSK HF-2010, I had no idea there was yet another company stealing the DT 880's design.

>>59478177
>Thank you for recommending the iSK HF-2010, I had no idea there was yet another company stealing the DT 880's design.

Its the same OEM as the Takstars. Literally the same headphone chasis. The new ones just supposedly sound like shit.

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>>59478206
>The new ones just supposedly sound like shit.
They all sound like shit. Chinks are just interested in making them look like Beyerdynamics, not sound good like Beyerdynamics. They skimp on drivers and that's how they're able to make & sell them for so cheap. The also have no QC for drivers so none of them are matched.

>>59478313
>They all sound like shit.
For the price, no. The closed versions actually measure quite well, apart from a 10k peak. Haven't had anyone trustworthy I know measure the open ones.

They did change to worse drivers though. /csg/ found this out the hard way.

>They skimp on drivers and that's how they're able to make & sell them for so cheap.
Eh, not really. A good driver is still pretty cheap. Some great drivers on aliexpress for fairly cheap, which would be even cheaper when bulk buying directly from the manufacturer.

>The also have no QC for drivers so none of them are matched.
Cheap headphones, Chinese or not, rarely do any way.

Sorry for the really dumb question.

If I am using cans with an amp should I be able to set my atlp120 to PHONO? It sounds weak even with the volume on max, is a heaphone amp not powerful enough?

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>>59477921
I asked my friend what Tin-eh-tus was and they all corrected my by saying Tin-eye-tus. But ya I'm pretty /tinnitus/.

>>59478960
>should I be able to set my atlp120 to PHONO
That would probably bypass the internal pre-amp. Phono should be sent to a special phono preamp, which would multiply the input signal many times over, usually 100-1000 times (+40-60 dB) over.

The turntable should should have a separate output.

>>59478960
http://schiit.com/products/mani

>>59477921
Me. It wasn't so bad for the first two years but not it's really annoying. Put it this way, I had tinnitus around the time I started buying dacs eetc and I could clearly hear the 'noise' from my on board compared to the silence when using my e10k. Now I cant hear the noise of my on board and my dac doesn't sound silent. I just hear white noise the whole time. It doesn't affect listening to actual much too much but it def feels like I can't hear quite as much detail as before.

>>59479778
>It doesn't affect listening to actual much too much

Music too much. Fuck sake.

There is no speaker general, so I am asking here:
I get zero visceral bass from my speakers in my room only, is it possible that the closet behind them "swallowing" those frequencies. It does feel like it is vibrating at a visceral bass frequency.
Does audio even work that way?

>>59479045
It's tin-uh-tus m8

>>59479685
already got an o2 though, will that not do?

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>want to buy headphones
>don't have enough autism to learn this much new shit
>have enough autism that I can't be satisfied with buying it randomly
>keep using my $5 earbuds

>>59479812
Worried that your closet is acting as a bass trap? Have you tried opening the door to it?
I have another suggestion: Try moving around the speakers (if you can) or moving yourself around to see if the bass builds up in any other part of the room.

>>59479846
No.
>a special phono preamp, which would multiply the input signal many times over, usually 100-1000 times (+40-60 dB) over.
The O2 6.5x setting is nowhere near that.

>>59479945
So if I were to purchase this amp and use it instead of the o2 I would be fine with bypassing the internal pre-amp?

>>59480023
If you bought the discrete phono preamp, you could use it with the phono output from the turntable. It should bypass the phono amp inside the turntable. Why are you even using the O2 for this?

After the phono pre, connect that output to another amplifier.

>>59480176
> Why are you even using the O2 for this?

I had it before I bought the turntable. Whats the issue with using it?

>>59480291
>Whats the issue with using it?
The issue is trying to use the O2 as a phono pre. You would normally connect O2 to turntable's line out and use it as such.

>>59480324
>You would normally connect O2 to turntable's line out and use it as such.

That's what I currently do but the atlp120 has a garbage pre-amp and the sound quality is much better if you remove it

>>59480291
It's a headphone amp.

It's not a photo preamp, which is pretty special as it needs to undo some processing vynils get when recorded that's meant to minimize loss of quality by placing it on less noticeable parts of the spectrum.

>>59478177
I have the isk's.
Sound quality isn't shit to me, and the comfort is on point.

>>59480350
>sound quality is much better if you remove it
That should also bypass the RIAA de-emphasis, an awful idea if ever there was one.
If you don't like the line out, get an external phono pre to replace it.

>>59477283
Tascam TH-02.
Pads will probably suck but are replaceable.

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>Budget
Not really that big of a deal for me
>Location
Norway
>Source
USB
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Would really prefer comfertable ones. I use a headset at least 12 hours a day
>Sound signature
>Past headphones
Logitec G35
They were okay i guess. They get destroyed pretty quick.

>>59481304
Fostex TH-X00

Are those $100 hifi man's on mass drop worth it? Are they even comparable to the h400

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>Budget
200 euro
>Location
Yuropoor
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High, portability is key
>Sound signature
Something fun, listen to a whole lot of styles
>Past headphones
Assortment of in ears

Help me /hpg/urus

>>59479885
You don't have to "learn a lot" nobody jumps into the deep end immediately and if you did you probably wouldn't be able to tell a difference anyways.

Just look into good headphones in the 70-150 dollar price range and get a pair.

>>59481304
fulla2 + hd380

>>59466315
>>59471949
I got extremely bad earwax after 2 years of wearing IEMs. Had to have doctor flush them out after my hearing blocked.

>>59481304
>>59482040
>Fulla 2 + HD 380

If you are considering this option, an E10K paired with HM5 headphones would be a better choice.

>>59481304
If you want to spend more, DT770 80oh (v-shaped)
If you want to spend less, Status CB-1, NVX XPT100 (neutral)
Can use a boom pro with CB-1 for vidya.

>Budget
Between $100 and $200, though I can do $250 at the very most.
>Location
Burgerland
>Source
Laptop, mainly. Asus X756 if that helps.
>Type of headphone
Full size.
>Open or closed
Closed.
>Comfort level
As much as possible. No leather, though.
>Sound signature
Maybe bassy or v-shaped. I'd like something with boosted bass but not "AW MAN DAT BASS THO" boost. I want to be able to hear it.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser 598 open. Loved how they felt but didn't like the open back and treble was too high for my tastes.

Hopefully I got all the points.

>>59477283
Monoprice 8323

>>59481515
They compete more with SHP9500/558/AD700X's in terms of sound. There's also a bass port sticker you can remove that another anon says they sound closer to 518's without the mud after the mod.

>>59482187
What are the pros and cons of each?

>>59482774
The E10K is weaker, but much cheaper. No reason to pair a Fulla 2 with easy-to-drive headphones such as the HD 380 or HM5. Neither headphones are particularly better, depending on your taste, but the HM5s are significantly comfier.

>>59482882
Doesn't even need the E10K for either of those headphones.
Although it's nice to have an amp for down the line if anon upgrades.

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>>59482183
Yeah, IEMs cause earwax. It's how your body tries to dislodge foreign bodies. To remove earwax, warm up some olive oil, drip it in and let it sit for 20 min. Then flush it out with water.

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>Budget
$130

>Location
FL / USA

>Source
Laptop/Desktop motherboard
possibly dac/amp in the future but i honestly don't want to

>Type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Anything more comfortable than the Superlux HD668Bs. They sound good but I really don't like using them due to discomfort.

>Sound signature
Dunno. I'm not bass hungry. I think the HD668Bs is well balanced, but I think I'm looking for something with more punch.

>Past headphones
Superlux HD668Bs

like the HD668Bs, but these fuckers are extremely uncomfortable. The velvet earpad replacements I bought for it doesn't make it any less uncomfortable. I'm a broke student in need of some good cans. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but I'm looking for something with a really good soundstage for gaming and a fun listening experience as well as the deep bass, sound clarity and treble my headphones provide now, but even better. I'm looking at the Sennheiser HD 598s, ATH-M50x's or ATH-AD900X's.

>>59483022
If you liked the HD668Bs, you could try looking at the SHP9500S' for ~$55 USD. Alternatively, you could also look at HD 558s for ~$80 USD. Both are comparable in sound quality, but the 558s are more laid back; just don't grab its chink shit little brother, the HD 518.

>>59469091
Anything from decent V-shape to nobass and piercing highs.

>>59482882
Seems to cost some 20% less, but doesn't have the i/o options of the other device.

>>59469091
A fucking disgusting closed headphone with no bass, no clamp and a terrible sound signature. They're genuinely the worst 'high end' full sized headphones I've ever tried.

>>59483945
>High end

They're mid-fi at best, anon.

Is the DT1990 good?

How does it compare to the T1 or HD800?

>>59484139
DT crap measuring against HD800? Unlikely.

>>59468261
Terrible infograph.

1. How loud sound can get is dependent on the output power of the device(amplifier, music player, smartphone, your motherboard) driving a load(headphones, loudspeakers) and the sensitivity of this load. These two parameters(output power and sensitivity) vary massively. Volume is as loud as you yourself set it to. Too much power is nothing but headroom and does nothing unless your turn it up to 11.

2. It's fairly common to compensate to the ambient noise by playing music louder. Using a pair of headphones/in-ears that isolate well limits the need for that. But who was to blame? The user who turned volume too high, again, not the headphones or any other device.

3.
>"Studies have shown"
Provide these studies so we can understand the context. Permanent hearing loss can occur in a split second if the SPL is too high. A shockwave can make you go deaf in an instant.

4. "60% volume" means absolutely nothing, refer to 1.

5. 60 minutes is very little so I'll assume this is near 100 dB.

6. Why are earbuds more dangerous?

7. You don't wear earbuds inside the ear-canal.

8. In-ears being located there does not make them louder. Once again, loudness is ultimately dependent on power vs sensitivity and always controllable by the volume setting.

9. Earbuds don't isolate much, many in-ears do. Refer to 2.

>>59471949
>finally, IEMs produce way too much SPL and many dBs above the acceptable limit.
No. It's no more harmful than any other device capable of reproducing high sound pressure level. What kind of device was used to reproduce said sound or where is this device located plays no part in how harmful the sound is. The only thing that matters is SPL at the eardum and the exposure time to it. You can damage your hearing by listening to something loudly through in-ears just as well as you can by playing the same thing through a stereo system.

>>59461913
Is there a way to casually turn off my EQ with APO? for example, I'd like to turn it off and keep everything flat for when I use my midi keyboard. Is there some quick setting within the EQ without going into windows playback and un- ticking 'enable audio enhancements' ?

>>59484476
Peace GUI has an 'ON/OFF' switch integrated with it

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Anyone own the 2nd generation H6 by Bang & Olufsen?

I can't really find a negative review about them, and they seem to tick all my boxes. Light weight, good natural sound and they're not god ugly.

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>>59484476
>>59484746
Here's my 668B EQ for example based off the GoldenEars graph

>>59484838
I've used Peace before but it was a bit basic in an EQ sense. Can I just reinstall it and open my already made config through it? what is the default in Peace? I remember it being the 7.1 setting but I could be wrong.

is there a great sounding neutral headphone that doesn't require an amp?

>>59484476
Just turn off the affected channels.
Or do something with WASAPI exclusive and your MIDI controller, I don't know.

>>59484953
Brainwavs HM5
NVX XPT100
Status CB-1

>>59484817
People don't usually tend to go for that sort of headphone here so I wouldn't expect to get many, if any serous responses mate. They look nice though.

>Budget
$200

>Location
USA

>Source
Laptop Mobo

>Type of headphone
Full-Sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Prefferably Max. Comfy

>Sound signature
neutral?

>Past headpones
cheap earbuds

The area i live in is really noisy, so I need some headphones to cut out external sound while I study and watch videos, or listen to music.

Is Fulla 2 enough for 600 ohm headphones?

>>59485018
Turning off all the channels via the power looking button doesn't affect the outcome. Neither does switching between multiple configs that I load. It makes it really fucking awkward to compare different configs.

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>>59485402
Audio myths that need to go:
>High impedance is hard to drive
"Above 100 ohm you need an amplifier"

Tell us the headphone, and then we can talk.
Practically speaking with a 600 ohm load, you would only really need to know the voltage output.

>>59485540
Not the power button. Leave that on, but don't highlight any channels.

>>59485045
Soundmagic HP150 could go on this list as well.

>>59485637
I forgot about those, thanks

>>59485610
>Practically speaking with a 600 ohm load, you would only really need to know the voltage output.
Output impedance isn't relevant for any amp that's worth recommending.

>>59485610
I'm not sure what you mean by channels. The only thing I can think of are the tabs when you open multiple configs. I guessing you don't mean that?

>>59485619
US? See
>>59483220
Otherwise, you could always look at Superlux's options.

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>>59485751
-High Z load softens most Zout concerns, who cares.
-Possible issues with limited current output does not happen with these high impedance sets. They are strongly bound by the maximum potential between the amplifier terminals as they draw proportionately little current for a given voltage

>>59485754
Does this image help?

>>59485876
Thanks, but no. That doesn't help me. My eq comprises of 3 channels and I want to turn them all off completely without going into my windows audio settings.

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Black or Ivory?

>>59485968
Unless if you plan on going for a Noctua build, go black.

>>59485968
Black obviously.

>>59485968
Ivory > Black.

>>59485876
>limited current output
Again, not an issue for decent, inexpensive amps.

So what's a good IEM for roughly 70$?
Do good IEMs even exist?

>>59485966
>I want to turn them all off completely without going into my windows audio settings
Open the program, click the button. That really should not be too much to ask.
You can keybind the "flat" preset or something with PEACE, it doesn't actually remove the functionality of EQAPO.

>>59486100
First, the context is high impedance loads. We weren't going to be current limited.
Second, current limiting can be an issue with real headphones and popular amplifiers.

>>59486233
>Open the program, click the button. That really should not be too much to ask.

What button? I can open multiple configs and switch between them, and the analysis panel shows the difference. But it never affects the actual volume.

>>59486117
>>59465521

>>59486233
I need to go to sleep. Thanks for your help bro. It will all work out eventually.

>>59486521
>>59486521
>>59486521
>>59486521

New thread.

>>59486357
The "select channels" one, the one highlighted in the dropdown menu here >>59485876. It affects all the filters below it.
If you limit the effect to one channel, then only one channel is filtered. If you select none, then none of the channels are affected.