/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Green meme case edition

>>59401207
meh, just use logical increments.

>>59401212
that's just a general guide.

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HELP ME

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PG4g4C

Already decided on
>i7-7700k or i5-7600k
>Zotac Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 Amp! Extreme
>1440p 144Hz monitor, probably Dell S2417DG

Aiming for 1440p/60fps.
I need help finding
>a good cooler for the CPU
>good DDR4 RAM
>appropriate power supply
>decent motherboard that works with all that

Any recommendations?

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>>59401499
Sorry, posted too late in last thread

>>59401499
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cw4g4C

>>59401499
You sure like wasting money, don't you? Here, let me help:

>>a good cooler for the CPU
Noctua DH-15
>good DDR4 RAM
F4-4000C18D-16GTZR
>PSU
120-G1-1000-VR
>decent motherboard that works with all that
MSI X99A XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM LGA 2011-v3

>>59401207
Why there`s some mobo with the m.2 located just under the first PCIe? Isn`t it a dumb thing as m.2 can run hot and while being under the gpu there`s not much airflow. Why do they still do this?

>>59401609
The heat is a meme. They do their thing too fast to get hot, only operations designed to test ssd's can make them overheat. Normal usage isn't a problem.

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>>59401681
So getting picrelated won`t be a problem even if I render alot while having a nvme m.3 ssd running under my gpu?

>>59401207
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fPZQxY
R8/H8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xfVKM8
I just took the (semi)top results for each. Let me guess, it's absolutely terrible, right?

>>59401865
pretty good, only thing i'd change is remove HDD and get a bigger SSD instead. It's easier to add a drive later for storage and replacing your OS drive.

>>59401902
overpriced mobo unless it has specific features you want.
get a better cooler if you want a decent OC without a housefire.
get an SSD instead of a shitty old 1TB hard drive.
>buying windows
there's 3000Mhz RAM for the same price or cheaper.
check case reviews on youtube.
also if you dont do any work/render stuff an i5 is a better choice unless you want it to last a bit longer without having to upgrade.

>>59401960
>buying windows
That's why i said that i picked the top stuff off the lists instead of bothering to make my own, it's a meme fiesta there, also any good RAM recommendations?

>>59402145
use the fucking filters on pcpartpicker you nigger

>>59401579
>XPOWER GAMING TITANIUM
There's really no need for that expensive as fuck motherboard...

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>>59402207

>>59402228
Oh...I failed to read the 1st sentence.
Excuse me for being a retard.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJ7C9W

Rate my meme machine

>>59402759
How are you going to update the BIOS?

>>59402790
With the hard drive and USB sticks I already own

>>59402759
PS4killer/10

>>59401609
Because it's convenient basically
>>59401681
Not true, the 950 pro for example gets to 100° within 3 minutes of writing. If you copy things in the order of hundreds of gigabytes, the heat is well worth consideration
M2 behind the motherboard is just as stupid as under the GPU

>>59401727
Rendering doesn't affect the storage drive

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Good case?

>>59402802
How will you boot into BIOS to access the flash utility without a CPU?

>>59401960
I5 can't hold up streaming and AAA games at the same time. It's already outdated EVEN FOR GAYMEN purposes like steam stream
I would've absolutely gotten the 6700k if i were to do it again

Is Ryzen better then Intel now?

How much psu is too much psu? The total maximum wattage for this rig is about 400w. I added a 520w psu. I've seen so many people say things like "that psu is overkill for your build" in other threads with builds very similar to mine where the psu was 650w or more.

Criticize this build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J3C8Cy

The parts are arriving Friday from NewEgg.

Best place to ask I think

I have an ASSRock mobo and it will not post

It sticks on A3 on the boot doctor LED thing, which is an IDE error but I've disconnected all drives, removed GPU and even replaced the bios battery

Is there anything else I can try?

>>59402870
What? Do you not see the g4560?

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>>59402865
Hollywood confirmed this as the case of choice for those with severe clinical autism

>>59402912
I've also reseated the CPU and the RAM

>>59402882
>streaming
>current year

>>59402882
Ryzen 7 is better at that.

>>59402891
depends for what use.

>>59402911
too much is twice your hardware's power draw on full load after OCing.

>>59402914
you cant boot a kaby lake CPU without updating the BIOS first you dumbfuck.

>>59402912
remove all but one stick of RAM and RTFM

>>59402851
the drive is right next to the video card dumping a lot of heat around, can't you see?

>>59402955
I have, the manual states that A3 is an IDE error and it says remove all storage devices and reboot

I've done that and I get the same error

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>>59402928
So I should get the 740 instead?

>>59402953
What would you suggest, I get a gaming laptop instead?
>>59402955
1800X is also twice the price of the i7 for arguably the same or worse gaming performance, I'm not encoding 4K movies on the daily I just want some extra threads for less than $100 over my i5
>>59402966
If it's not working then there's no issue in it getting hot
Also try to remember where the heat is coming from on the GPU and where it's airflow is going, it's not a big deal how hot your M2 gets unless it's throttling because of it, and if the heats only coming from your GPU and not the drive (due to overuse), then your drive won't throttle and you have nothing to worry about

>>59402955
>you cant boot a kaby lake CPU without updating the BIOS first you dumbfuck.
Oh. Then how do I do this?

>>59403031
the R7 1700 is $350 and is the same chip as the 1800X just lower clock, and can stream full HD and game at the same time without frames dropping, which the i7 cant do.

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With my ryzen parts on the way the only thing left to prepare is a new isntall of windows 10. Naturally buying windows is for plebs what is /g/'s current preferred activator? I'd be surprised if dazloader still works and there is no way i'm giving MS money.

I could rip my existing license (a win7 one provided by dazloader) but somehow I doubt that will work.

>>59403063
get a b250 chipset mobo or one that can flash bios without a CPU installed.

>>59401207
Purpose
>Gaymen, virtual machines, rendering
Budget
>$3500ish
Country
>BurgerLand

Parts List:
CPU:
>Ryzen 7 1800x
GPUs:
>Double Asus Strix 1080tis
RAM:
>2x16gb 3200Mhz Corsair Vengeance LPx ddr4
Motherboard:
>ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero AM4
SSD:
>NVMe 960 Pro 1TB M.2

That's the important stuff, any improvements?

>>59403063
You would need a skylake CPU or some kind of driver slipstreaming USB
Or just buy a Kaby lake (200 series) board instead of a skylake one, you'll also get 2400mhz max ram speed with the Kaby lake board

>>59403087
A good power supply...

>>59403031
>What would you suggest, I get a gaming laptop instead?
Never fucking ever do this under any circumstances.

When I graduated high school in 07 I spent 2,000 on a "gaming laptop" thinking I was hot shit for college. It sits in my dresser under a mound of jeans

>>59403031
No, a captcha card and another machine for streaming

>>59403087

If you overclock just get the 1700 and do it yourselve. The 1800x exists just to plug and play as it were.


>ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero AM4

Make sure you have at least BIOS 0902.

>>59403087
don't buy asus motherboards, they are cutting costs on important things, and there's also that ram speed problem on them

buy gigabyte or msi

>>59403068
The 7700k can't play games and stream?
The 1700 lacks an overclocking feature right? It's some bullshit turbo, and the X series is what overclocks?
Plus motherboard are too expensive right now and there's a huge used market of 6700ks, upgrade or not, ryzen is not in my near future

>>59403097
>>59403085
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3McMr7

Better?

>>59403131

All ryzen chips are unlocked, its the motherboard tiers that determine overclocking and other features.

>>59403131
they can overclock, the just don't overclock as good as the X series on paper

and their tdp is quite a lot lower too

>>59403114
I don't record or stream to anyone but myself, does steam stream even support using capture cards? I figured since I can stream fine 95% of the time with the i5, all I would need is some extra multitasking threads and I'd be good to go?

>>59403068
>the i7 can't play games and stream
Are you autistic?

>>59403156
See I thought the "motherboard lottery" meme died years ago
I don't care about on paper or this CPU vs this CPU, if ryzen can offer me an overclockable motherboard AND a CPU as powerful as a 6600k with extra threads for $300 I'll grab one right now
But as of now, keeping my motherboard and buying an i7 for $300 seems like the better option

>>59403180
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DC8rnn
I have a 1TB HDD and the r70 gets better performance with that processor than the 1050 ti

>>59403131
>The 7700k can't play games and stream?
I didnt say that, I said it drops frames, but it depends on your stream settings, low enough and u'll be fine.

>The 1700 lacks an overclocking feature right?
No. All Ryzen chips can OC with a X370 or B350 chipset mobo.

>Plus motherboard are too expensive right now
lolwut?

>there's a huge used market of 6700ks, upgrade or not, ryzen is not in my near future
that's still a good chip if you can get it for cheap, go for it.

>>59403167
go back to school and learn to read basic english you fucking mongoloid

>>59403203
470*

>>59403196

Its not like you need to buy a x370 board to get good overclocking - x370 just supports some stuff (like crossfire/sli) than B350 doesn't.

>>59403204
Graphics settings has something to do with streaming fps?
When I stream to my laptop it gets set to 60fps at 1800p and has no graphical issues, I usually play at 144fps 1440p without any issues locally, it's when the CPU gets loaded to 100% is when (the 6600k) drops frames while streaming
It's smooth as fuck for most of the time
Low graphics settings changes nothing expect it looks shittier at a standstill

>>59403162
Then you can use a captcha card and record directly to the same machine, what do you stream to yourself for

>>59403260
I play Fallout on my Mac-tier laptop while waiting for my next class

Someone pls help me fix mobo

A3 error, the last time it did this it eventually fixed itself, I've no idea how

>>59403277
Oh, i thought you meant streaming in the sense of Twitch, not streaming the gameplay to another machine

I'm not sure then, sorry anon

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>>59403277

>>59403250
>Graphics settings has something to do with streaming fps?'
did i specify graphics settings? no, again, learn to fucking read. you have stream settings aswell.

holy shit go back to /v/ you fucking retards

>>59403304
I don't have stream settings I just click "stream" when it shows up as an option on my laptop
What game settings would drastically lower CPU usage enough to stream consistently?

>>59403325
i could come up with some bullshit based on nothing since you didnt even post specs, or you could just fucking google and try yourself

>>59403068
My i5 streams witcher just fine, 60fps solid
And that's half the threads as the i7

>>59403355
A settings doesn't change to and from being CPU dependent based on the hardware does it?
Already said I have a 6600k (4.7GHz) several times
Does the GPU even matter for streaming though?

>>59403372
>>59403395
like i said, different settings

https://youtu.be/J5ONXgQrdqc?t=25s

Could I have a list of the most popular / best graphic cards please? Going for a 7700K build and so far I only really know about :

>RX 480 8GB
>Some more or less equivalent nvidia GTX card with 6GB
and that's it.

>>59403430
But what settings would make a 6600k be able to both play games and stream?
At the moment I don't give a shit about another CPU if I can get this one to play games and stream without a hiccup every 5 minutes
If that's just physically impossible with a 6600k THEN I'll look into upgrading
Doesn't matter which brand, I don't want to give anyone $300+ unless I need to

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>>59403368
>>59403368
Not prohibitively so and you're talking a frame jump of 30 fps or so for many games

Here's overwatch on ultra

>>59403477
If you're at 1080p 60hz those are the only two GPUs you should consider
The 480 started off slightly worse than the 1060, now it's unarguably slightly better

>>59401207
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ddH42R

I'm looking into upgrading my graphics card and a new case to fit the smaller form factor. Any further improvements I could make?

I've been eyeing R9 280(x)'s on my local craigslist and stuck between the Cooler Master N200 or Corsair 88R. Any reply or suggestion wouod be great, thanks.

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>>59403487
And here's Battlefield one

>>59403497
I'm just saying it's a better fit for the Pentium chip everyone is masturbating over

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>>59403484
>what settings
higher bitrate?

>>59403497
nvidia has worse price/performance, "nigga"

>>59403497
The prices of the 1050ti and 470 are close enough to be comparing them
The 1050 is just too low price to have competition (if you really care about price/performance, get the 1050 and accept your sub-60fps life) and the 470 really just wrecks the 1050ti for (relatively) just a little bit more money
I would definitely get the 470 over a 1050ti personally

>>59403500
Yeah my screen is 1080p 60hz and I don't really understand the difference with higher hz. Ultimately I just want solid 60fps.

More hz = more frames per second displayed on the screen? Can our eyes really see the difference is something goes over 60fps?

>>59403517
Not the 1050
The 1050 is a budget class demolisher, the 1050ti is too closely priced to "normal" GPUs to be a good buy

>>59403539
Don't ever ask that again until you buy a high-Hz screen, and subsequently never ask that again
Yes high Hz is absolutely worth it
Is it worth a $400 GPU and a $200+ CPU? That's your choice

>>59403556
yeah have fun with that 2GB VRAM

is the taichi the best am4 board right now? in terms of reliability, etc

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>>59403539
Our eyes work best at 24fps that's why movies are made like that
48 and 72hz just doubles the frames so you're still seeing 24fps, just more 24fps
Retard

>>59403584
For $100 you bet your ass I would

My SSD with OS died (my WD green storage is still going strong after 7 years)

I need a new HDD for my OS, I'm leaning towards a ~2TB 7200 RPM HDD, instead of another SSD (I read Windows 7 is hard to run on 3TB+ HDD?)

Any brans/models /g/ recommends?
Seagate Barracuda?

>>59403681
>Windows 7
>SSD
You didn't do the things did you?
Windows 7 doesn't automatically optimize settings for SSDs
I bet you even had quick boot on
Defragment it many times from here on out to fix it

>>59403594
fuck off retard

>>59403714
It's not recognized, it's dead

>>59403570
I'm learning, haven't built a computer in 9 years.
Just read and watched a bunch of stuff about it, I got it now.

>Is it worth a $400 GPU and a $200+ CPU? That's your choice
My future CPU is already 300+, still no idea about the GPU though. I have a feeling that's something I could live by without knowing about it, but if I do end up going for a 144hz I'll never be able to come back. Sort of like trying a SDD and getting back to a HDD, but probably worse.

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I have this toaster for quite a while and I'd like to upgrade it a little to reach a decent rig.
I want to be able to play Paragon, Warframe, League and maybe do a little livestreaming. Watch videos in 1080p.

550W powersupply and MB P5B-Plus from Asus socket 775. I know it only supports DDR2 so fuck me.

I have a Q9550 (Would an E5472 have been any better?)
What graphics card should I get and how many GBs and DDR3 or DDR5? (I have this shitty Radeon HD which keeps crashing on every game)
I also can get some DDR2 memory. But I'm thinking between 4GB 1066 or 8GB 800.

Should I go with speed or quantity?

>>59403851
post speccy ffs

>>59403851
g4560 + 1050ti = GOAT.

when will we see the next big drop in price for cpus?

>>59403722
>calls person retard
>is a retard

>The only worthwhile gfx cards are the GTX1050, RX470, RX480, GTX1060 6GB for 1080p
get the 1050 ti, it's a very good 1080p card @ $150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3pFdgfaHVQ

>wait for Ryzen R5s
yes, if your planning to get a locked i5, consider waiting for the sub-$200 4c/8t ryzen 5 models

>>59403894
possibly after ryzen 5.

>>59403905
https://www.google.se/search?q=30+vs+60+fps

now fuck off retard

>>59403956
The 1050ti is a bad deal compared to the 470

>>59403959
>says to fuck off retard
>actually is a retard and needs to fuck off

>>59404005
470 costs $60 more on some countries

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>>59403905
>>59404020
>>>/b/

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>>59404032
Well in the only country that matters it's a $20 difference

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ykrvhq
First time, and its going to be around 1800-1900$, the Ti price didnt come out but its 700$ i believe,
Should i ditch 4TB and get more SSD?

>>59404075
why the fuck are you buying skylake cpu and z170 mobo when kabylake and z270 is the same price?
yes you should ditch the HDD for a bigger SSD, it's easier to add storage later than replacing OS drive. also you should get NVMe SSD instead of SATA.
get a nice case if you're spending that much money already.

>>59403956
If you meant to quote me who asked a list of worthwhile GPUs I'd just rather get a RX480 then. Thing is if I can hit a little higher for it to be a little more future-proof I could.

What else is there after RX480/1060?

>>59404118
1070

>>59404118
1070, $380 minimum and absolute overkill for 1080p
1080ti, like $700? And literally a 4K maxed gaymen card
If used is okay, a 980ti and Fury X come close to a 1070, but I doubt you'd find a much better deal on those
1070 will get you high-fps 1080p but everything better is practically a waste at 1080p

>>59404115
not him but SSDs are overrrated af.
who gives a shit about a slightly shorter boot time

>>59403860
>>59403865
550W Rasurbo (shut up)
5GB 667mhz (4 ram chips, most of them don't mix well)
P5B-Plus Asus
Quad 9550
Ati Radeon HD 5670, 512MB

I could try to sell my toaster for a third of the price of today's PCs and try to churn out the rest of the cash for a good rig, but I'm more comfortable spending just 100$ to upgrade my current rig rather than spending 600$.
What are your thoughts on using 3 ram chips instead of 2 or 4? will it fry my motherboad?

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>>59404173
Using your 256GB SSD only for 10GB of OS is what's retarded
Everything can benefit in speed
Even USB flash drives get bottlenecked by internal HDDs, I watched it happen on a friends laptop this morning
I don't even use HDDs anymore but I also don't use over a TB of hot storage at a time

>>59404118
not everyone can afford that man

>>59404194
that's not speccy.

and you need a whole new build if you want to actually see any performance improvements.

G4560 and an RX 470 with 8GB RAM and B250 motherboard. You could reuse your PSU but i wouldnt trust that unknown brand you have.
You could also reuse your HDD if it's SATA.

>>59404173
>thinks SSD is only good for slightly faster boot
you clearly have no fucking idea what you're talking about so why dont just stfu and leave, faggot

>>59404131
>>59404171
>>59404239
Yeah around 400€ where I live, that's too much I think. I'll probably get a RX and sell it in a few years to upgrade or something.

But now I have a hypothetical question, say I were to get a 1080p 144hz monitor, would I need a better GPU than with a 1080p 60hz one? To get the best out of it, that is.

>>59404115
>>59404075
also these changes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BwCrnn

>>59404266
No.

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Are the amazon seller prices guaranteed or do scammers put up expensive things for good prices to trick people?

Asking for a friend

>>59404297
144hz is best if you have FPS close to the same value and for that you need both a good CPU and GPU and a G4560 and rx470 wont be able to reach that in demanding games without your turning down lots of settings.

Are 2.5" hard drives worth using for media storage? I don't have the space for another 3.5" drive but I have an empty 2.5" bay.

>>59404362
>>>/g/sqt

>>59404376
>144hz is best if you have FPS close to the same value
Which would be?

>>59404386
if you want to spend more money for less storage, sure

>>59404410
above 60 fps... 60hz will always display 60fps, no matter what.

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>>59404410
are you retarded? +-5%

>>59404435
we're talking about 144hz you fucking idiot

>>59401207
is there a specific name for those spin tables that the case sits on? it would make maintenance so much easier.

>>59404418

It's an extra $20 for a 4TB over a 3.5" of the same size, and my only option.

>>59404447
>are you retarded? +-5%
So 144fps?

>>59404461
>>>/g/sqt

rotary display stand

>>59404475
or you could get an external bay or even better, make a fucking nas.

>>59404479
yes, best experience if you have a constant 144 fps or higher for a 144hz monitor

>>59404447
He doesn't have his computer built
Are seriously saying "if you get 144fps, then get a 144fps monitor"?
If you are then that's a pretty fucking stupid post to make

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>>59404506
>144hz is best for using 144fps
GREAT
JOB
YOU
WIN

>>59404508
>>59404522
>>>/b/

Are SSHD's a meme?

>>59404571
yes they dont exist

On a budget, but was thinking about buying a pc and upgrading later. This guy is selling his for $380, is this a good deal?

CPU: Intel core i5 2500K
GPU: MSI Twin frozen GTX660TI
Ram: 8GB 1600MHz, 12800. (2*4GB)
Hard drive: 500GB HDD

>>59404506
>get an external bay

Shit.

>make a fucking nas

Expensive.

Is this a bad color theme for a build?

>phantecks eclipse p400 case
Black case with rgb strip (green)
>x370 gigabutt mobo
White accents with green lighting
>corsair sp+af 140 led case fans
sp's are green, af's are white
>msi gtx 1080
black/red

Cpu cooler and memory will be black.
(Dark rock 3 + vengeance lpx)

>>59404650
No that's shit, make a Pentium G4560 build and upgrade the CPU by an i5 or i7 in the future.

>>59404658
external bays arent shit if you get the right one.
and a NAS is cheap if you get the right hardware, and it will be cheaper in the long run.

>>59404660
>is this color scheme ok?
>no images
durrr

>>59404660
>msi gtx 1080
>black/red

You were doing good until this point. Red is the absolute worst color to mix with green.

>Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
Is there anything close to being this good in the same price range or should I just get that?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RdfmJV

>>59404792
Cryorig H7.

>>59404767
>no images

I should have put, "hypothetically speaking" at the end.

>>59404779
So I'm gonna wind up with a build-a-wall build if I were to go for rypoo then.

>>59404767
>external bays arent shit if you get the right one.

Other than having to keep it externally.

>and a NAS is cheap if you get the right hardware, and it will be cheaper in the long run.

Building an entire NAS, which uses multiple drives, is in no way cheaper than a single 2.5" drive. Trust me, I'd love to have a big fuckofff NAS, but that's an entirely different budgetary world.

>>59404912
i said cheaper in the long run as in if you need to expand again

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>6 years later
>hyper 212 is still the best socket 1151 cooler for $25
LOL wtf???

>>59402999
cubic cases are the best cases.

Never built a PC before.
Is this good? Some components are only there because of the specs such as the RAM (Gaming RAM lmao)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m72mJV

I don't know jack about specs

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>>59405317
>seagate
Also just get a 1070

>>59405369
What's wrong with seagate? What should I get instead? A HDD is a HDD lmao.

>>59404934
it's slightly better than stock and quieter, but it's still just a budget cooler and performs as such.

>>59405317
>skylake cpu
>two separate sticks of ram instead of a kit of two
>lowprofile cooler
>1060 6GB for $240 when RX 480 8GB is same or better performance for $210

3/10

>>59405421
Their failure rates are off the charts.

If you're cheap buy Toshiba

If you want the best quality buy Hitachi (HGST)

Warranty is pointless in this case since what matters the most is all the data you're going to lose once your HDD dies on you.

Somebody give me a link to a new QX9650 for prosperity purposes.

Hey is this a good deal, /g/?

H110m-k
G4560
8gb DDR4 Kingston

For 160$

>>59405429
>>Some components are only there because of the specs such as the RAM
Good shout for the graphics card tho.

How's this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4bQRyf

>>59405421
>A HDD is a HDD
Enjoy your future brick then

>>59405421
>A HDD is a HDD lmao.
No, it isn't
>lmao
grow up, then come back here

>>59404934
Apparently >>59404828 is better from what I'm seeing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VsFXWX

anything I should know?
Ideally I wanted a Zen APU but I'm tired of waiting. Also looking at how Ryzen and AM4 mobos are priced in my country it'll be cheaper to go Intel + dGPU

>>59405546
>le fedora serious lemon key man

>>59405545
Nah you are right I remember my mate's PC died when the HDD melted.

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>>59405421
>What's wrong with seagate?
>A HDD is a HDD lmao.

>need a somewhat cheap 1080p 144hz monitor that doesn't suck

Any recommendations? Looking at the AOC G2460PF & BenQ XL2411 currently, can't decide.

>>59405513
it's alright

>>59405529
no, still shit
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h7bkm8

>>59405564
>>59405529
you need to update BIOS before you can use the kaby lake CPU in those mobos you tards.

>>59401727
>So getting picrelated won`t be a problem
Oh it will. Good luck finding one.

>>59405699
>114$
>for RAM

I have some shitty cheap ram that is 16 gb in my PC right now and it hasn't let me down. What nigger gets gaming RAM

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qmzZvV

I just can't figure out what motherboard to get.
I was thinking a MSI z270 maybe , but there's so many varians. Idk wtf SLI & all the other variants are. I just want one with HDMI
Any recs or changes?

>>59405572
>>59405466
>>59405545
>>59405546
yes, keep regurgitating those old ENTERPRISE FAILURE RATES lmao

>>59405743
i just canceled my order :^)

>>59405699
That fan is shitter just larger. Wtf.

>>59405745
does it say GAMING anywhere on that RAM? no? look at the fucking specs, you dumbfuck.

>>59405752
no point in 1x8GB if you have 4 slots for RAM.
hyper 212 is a meme.
and why the fuck are you looking for a MOTHERBOARD with HDMI when you have a fucking graphics card with HDMI?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VzcMr7

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>>59405881
(you)

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What you guys think, will it tear of the mainboard slot? lol

>>59405888
Ah yeah forgot to mention I already had another stick of ram I got off a friend, that's why I only need to buy the one.
>why the fuck are you looking for a MOTHERBOARD with HDMI when you have a fucking graphics card with HDMI?
Oh, for some reason I though the HDMI went into the motherboard. I'm a retard I guess. I 'll use the one you recommendeded.

Is the Cryorig H7 compatible with B250/Z270/Kaby Lake mobo/CPUs (7700K)? I don't see "1151" written in the specs.

>>59406026
sell that single stick. problem solved.

>>59406042
it's compatible with skylake and kaby use the same measurements

>>59405745
that's the price of regular ram these days you idiot

I have an dual core E6600. Will a DDR5 graphics card work or should I stick to DDR3?

PC Peripheral plans wroth it?
It's $22 for 4 years

I found Corsair 8GB worth of DDR2 800Mhz for just 30$. Should I buy and resell them?

>>59406290
any decent card made in the last 3 years will bottleneck the fuck out of that, trust me, even my Core2Quad bottlenecked on a gtx460

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M3M8Cy

Can someone give me a rate or suggestion? I decided to jack up my CPU because I'm running ArcGIS and potentially Adobe Illustrator, InDesign, and PS

RX480 or Geforce GTX 1060?
Seems like the 1060 is only better if you monitor is higher than 1080p

>>59406491
overpriced mobo.
take HDD money and get a larger SSD.
overkill PSU in both rating and watts.
>optical media in 2017

>>59406495
RX 480 is at least as good as the 1060 and is cheaper depending on your country.
Dont get the 1060 3GB.

>>59406515

Any motherboard suggestion and CPU to run heavy programs? Should I get a sata SSD for the data or crank up the m2 ssd to 512gb and no HDD?

>>59406495
RX 480 will probably last longer, meaning you'll get more worthwhile results the longer you use it.

>>59406344
What about a GT 730?

>>59406560
i didnt say change the CPU just the motherboard. literally any Z270 chipset board that's not Asrock for $100-130 will do as long as it has NVMe m.2 slot.

and i'd go bigger m2 first.

>>59406623
any sane person would not use that piece of shit for anything else than browsing the internet.

save up your money and buy a whole new PC

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>7600K is 240 on newegg
>z270 m-itx board with the features I want is 170-ish

AMD better get their shit together with their motherboard variety and 4c/8t R5 better be cheap as shit because the above is very enticing

>>59406560
'heavy programs' is a vauge term.

Multi threaded or single threaded (or multiple singletreaded in parallel)? High memory usage? Need graphics?

You need to be more specific. Otherwise you'll just get that you need a 'powerful cpu' and a 'decent motherboard'.

>>59405745
I have gaming ram, because it was cheap.

>>59406560
what version of ArcGIS you using? I remember my friend who works with an older version saying it only used one core. might want to look into that

>>59405421
just make sure you backup. I have all of my important things in raid arrays, you might want to look into this.

or just make regular backups of everything you care about.

That's not just a recommendation for using seagate, but for any files of importance. HDD's break. Best to limit the fallout when they do.

>>59406729

Most of the time i'll be using the pc for gaming and running arcgis

>>59406749

10.4

>>59406843
raid is not backup, dipshit

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Just got the second half of my grant money so it's time to go shopping.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2H42R

What do you guys think?

Should I make any changes?

>>59406986
I was listing several offers. But if the fear is disk failure, raid is insurance.

>>59407023
the question is always. . . what is this for?

250Gb seems tiny to me, but maybe it works.

>>59407023

why do you need the top of the line when any z270 board will do?

I'd get a cheaper motherboard and case and get a m.2 950 pro

>>59407023
fine except for that fucking retarded CPU cooler

any suggestions?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RkhjgL

>>59407191
>only 16Gb ram

I'd get more for that setup. . . just because it seems like already forking over the dough for coolness and newness.

>>59407191

>buying windows
>optical drive
>no m.2 ssd

seems pretty cookie cutterish for a ryzen build otherwise though

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What's the best GTX 1060 6G/RX 480 that's less than 240mm?

I'm looking at these three:

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/RKX2FT/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8gb-nitro-oc-video-card-11260-01-20g

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TrGj4D/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gb-6gb-gt-ocv1-video-card-geforce-gtx-1060-6gt-ocv1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XBGGTVG/ref=twister_B01LAYSXYE?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

I really like the Aero ITX but it's very expensive so probably the choice is between RX 480 and the single fan MSI GTX 1060

>>59407191
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqKhZ8

>>59407023
>Just got the second half of my grant money

Lucky fuck. I'm still waiting for the first half.

>>59407211
I really don't need anymore...this is my upgrade from a 10 year old q6700 build

>>59407323
well, getting ryzen seems a tad overkill in that case, in my opinion. . . but its your computer

>>59407345
it is but oh well. tax refund will cover it

build me a high end ryzen setup

>>59407424
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KcCDTH

What's the best 200ish GPU I can buy for gaming?
I don't want to spend anything above $300

>>59407600
thanks. What do you think of the Noctua NH-U12S instead?

>>59407600
8gb rx 480

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Scrutinize this build for me. I am going for a cost efficient, gaming pc.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TY38Cy

Parts are arriving Friday. I've never built with this case. I'd like to add an extra intake fan or two but I don't know how much room I will have after assembling these components. I'll have a better idea once I get into the build.

>>59407694

Get the 7600k instead.

>>59407694
>>59407710

Also, if it's cheaper grab a semi-modular or non-modular PSU. A modular PSU is unnecessary with that case since all of the cables are just buried under the shroud anyway.

>>59407694
>>59407710
>>59407723

Oh, and 16GB of RAM is a meme.

>>59407691
So this is about good right?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BNQGNN

>>59407736
I have 16Gb and I use it all, if I get a nother computer will definitely want to look at getting at least 16 Gb or more.

>>59407801
>I have 16Gb and I use it all

How.

Good monitor for $200? If it has usb, 1080p, and hdmi or display port, you get 1 million brownie points.

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is $500 still the entry level for building a gaming machine?

>ram is still off the charts
>g4560 still sold out everywhere
>b250 mobos still sold out everywhere
>good budget cases still sold out everywhere that's not asking $20 for standard shipping

Fucking hell what an awful time to build. The only parts worth sourcing now are power supplies, if that.

>>59407860
find a used dell 27" 1440p

>>59407691
The 480 is shit just like all AMD cards

Ok mates, here's my question.

Given I want to gayming and make some intensive scientific computations, which one suits my needs best: intel or Ryzen?

just need to vent

i bought a msi 1080 gaming x back in october. in november i had to rma it due to permanent glitches, the replacement had the fan stuck @ 100% issue, and now this replacement is crapping out

i paid $700 months ago for a card i've literally never gotten 100% usage out of. and now with the 1080ti, i'm BTFO if i even wanted to sell the NEXT RMA i get back

/pcbg/ i did everything right when i switched from mac to pc, and i still got btfo. i just want to play witcher 3 :(

>>59408077
Ryzen

>>59407816
image editing, virtual machines, 3d rendering, simulations, et cetera. I do a lot with my computer, and its not hard to get it up to using all of the ram, or at least like, 12 or 14Gb.

I generally idle at 180-200Mb.

>>59408110

Ah OK that makes sense.

But the guy is building a gaming machine, which 16GB is definitely excessive for.

>>59408100
>i just want to play witcher 3 :(
waaaah

GTFO to >>>/v/ manchild

>>59408171
huh? the fuck's your problem? i want to play a video game on a high performance PC... turns out not 100% of cpu cycles are for encoding/rendering anon

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>>59408171
>waaaah
>he likes things i don't

>>59408251
do you have warranties? could you get refunded and maybe move to another brand?

I know its not ideal , but might be a solution.

>>59408045
>ram prices
They're up permanently thanks to mobile demand.

>g4560 availability
It's the most sought after cpu intel has produced in several years. I doubt intel cares if they're scarce unless Ryzen 3 becomes competitive later this year which is unlikely.

>b250 availability
I see plenty of them around although the good ones are periodically sold out. Gigabyte is unusually good this time around for price and features if you don't mind the brown aesthetic.

>budget case availability
Zalman is making good cheap cases these days. I wouldn't count on Corsair, Cooler Master, and Fractal continuing to try and compete in that market space. They don't make money selling cases for under $50 USD.

If you're a small builder I'd suggest pushing up your "budget," line to where sourcing is convenient. $400 builds are still easy to source. $300 builds not so much right now.

>>59407694
Keep the i7, don't go i5 like they're telling you to.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bBDvm8

How many things are wrong here? I lost count

>>59408455
The 3 three things aka the most important things.

>>59408455
>>59408471
Nevermind actually CPU and mobo are fine, just the RAM frequency doesn't match ,as you can see here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLs8TW/msi-motherboard-h110mgaming (or on the CPU page too since it's Skylake non-K) they don't support 2400mhz RAM so go 2133. If you put the 2400 one it'll just downgrade to 2133 so there's no point paying for something that won't work as it should.

No way to get a 6500? They're cheap nowadays.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtL42R
What do you think

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Tell me if I am being retarded.

I bought some standoffs, but they were shorter than all the preinstalled standoffs. So my motherboard would bend if I screwed everything in.

What if I added those red insulation washers under my standoff to even up height like in the picture?

So I'm just now becoming a pc gamer after playing consoles my entire life and this is what I'm building. It's color theme is white and purple and it's exactly in my budget. Anything I should change?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Akito_The_Fox/saved/ycvmGX

>>59408730
>Tell me if I am being retarded.

yes

I'd like to be 100% sure I pick the right mobo for me in term of features, how can I do that?

Do I just compare all the Z270 mobos and google each terms I see on the specs pages? This is the last thing I need to decide on in my build it seems.

>>59404461
Lazy Susan

How hard is it building PC in mini ITX case if I haven't build any in like 10 years?

>>59408471
>>59408505
>CPU and mobo are fine
You kidding?
>K CPU on H110.
I didn't even put attention to RAM speeds, thanks for noticing that; however, sometimes slower RAM is no cheaper than faster.
Not my build, just someone's first attempt to figure out his options. Directed him to logicalincrements.

Muh 4k editing build :

MSI X370 GAMING PRO CARBON
Be Quiet Pure Rock
EVGA 850 BQ Modulaire
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X
Cooler Master Silencio 652S 114,90 €
Corsair Force MP500 - 120 Go
Kingston SSDNow M.2 SATA G2 (SM2280S3G2480G) - 480 Go
Samsung Serie 960 EVO M.2 PCIe NVMe - 250 Go

Can't go higher on budget. Is it good? Any better options/ways to spend less? (only thing I can't change is the mobo for various reasons)

(I already have a GTX 970 and 3 hard drives on my current PC)

>>59409346
PS : I know 1700 is a better choice than 1700X when OC, but I never OC'd in my life so I'm afraid to make a mistake (maybe it isn't that hard and dangerous on the long run?)

>>59409346
Dont bother to OC. All R7 CPUs only overclock to 4GHz before they cant handle it anymore.

>>59408100
MSI is garbage

>>59409659
due to temp? AMD now says that the 1800x is reporting 20c over the actual temp, in order to unify fan strategy

Why does everyone love Corsair Vengeance LPX RAM? In my opinion G.SKILL is better

>>59409700
what's the difference?

>>59409099
It wasn't a K CPU when I clicked, he must have changed it. It was a 7400 nonK.

>>59409659
Hm. New variable. So if I don't OC 1700X is probably better then? Or is the difference too small to even matter?

6400 I mean.

>>59409778
TDP and IPC is higher on 1700X

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Used i5 2400 or the current meme goldenchild g4560?

They have similar performance, mind you.

>>59409807
Does that matter for the performance?

i own a pc with a 6700k and a gtx1080, what's a good monitor to complement it?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dngzjc

Purpose:
cheapest pc under $800 that can run current gen AAA at 1080p 60fps, max detail.

have a Power Supply, ram moduel, case, and HD, that can be carried over into a new build 2 years down the line.

I'm going to be using win8.1 and DX11 so is the 1060 is better than the 480?

Speaking of Windows, how is 10 for gaming?
7 can only last for so long and 8 is shit, Should I just embrace 10?

>>59410000

Yes, just embrace it.

>>59409905
I've been shopping used parts lately and socket 1155 are particularly expensive, you're better off going newer

>>59410000
I'm not gaming much aside a few competitive games but I never had any problems, best Windows for me if you don't care about the privacy etc

>>59410064
>if you don't care about the privacy etc
There are people who don't?

>>59406019
Honestly love the idea of it. Would love to give it a try in a silent pc build.

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>>59406019
oh and no I don't think so haha, if powercolor can make the 295x2 air cooler not snap mobos in half, this should be fine.

on pcpartpicker it says this motherboard is not compatable with samsund nvme ssds why?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2hdFf7/gigabyte-ga-z270n-wifi-mini-itx-lga1151-motherboard-ga-z270n-wifi

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>>59409772
My bad, it's non-K indeed, the *6*400.
Anyhow, what sane person would put this thing on a H110 mobo?
Also, can you change permalinked builds? Didn't know.

>>59409674
Isn't pairing GTX 1050Ti with G4560 a bit odd?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p6JtRG

My first gayman PC, but I'll also be using it for photo editing.

Ugly ass HAF X because my apartment is an oven and giant phanteks for the same reason. With the exception of storage and RAM, everything's already bought so I guess I'm just looking for validation or general advice on what to change in the future.

I'm only having problems deciding on RAM. I'm caught between
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/XTnG3C/avexir-memory-avd4uz124001604g2cor

Because syncing up the lighting might be neat and I'm also concerned about the height clearance under my heatsink, which should be about 42mm without repositioning the fans. These avexir ones measure 40mm

I honestly prefer the look of
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R6RFf7/gskill-memory-f42133c15d8gvr

But google tells me it's actually taller than the other ones. I gave consideration in another thread to flipping the heatsink vertically so the fans blow heat from the top to make room, but it turns out I was a retard because then the fins AND fans block my RAM and also obstruct my gpu.

So then I thought about relocating the card with riser cables but fuck I feel like I'm already experimenting with more complicated shit without even completing the basics.

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I want to build a quiet machine on a budget. Thinking of 500GB SSD vs. 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD to eliminate the noise of the HDD. Problem is, I have no experience with modern HDD's (like the new seagates). I have a 7 year-old loud WD 500GB drive. Are HDD's quiet enough these days or should I just go full SSD? (trying to stay within a $1100 budget, ~$130 is the most I can spend on storage).

>>59410654
why is noise a concern?

Are you hiding somewhere?

So due to certain circumstances, I have to buy 4 of my new PCs parts in advance while I am at uni before I order the rest of the parts. What are the "safest" components to get before the rest of the machine is assembled?

>>59410569
why would you spend $1200 on a gaming console lmao

you can edit photos on a macbook from 2006 so don't try to use that as an excuse

>>59410730
Because it lights up, stupid

>>59410685
I live in a small room. Probably smaller than a lot of prison cells. It's also a shack where there is space between the top of the wall and the ceiling.

My current rig sounds like an airport and it's starting to piss people off. It's pissing me off too, I can hear it with over-ear headphones on. 7 years on the stock cooler is one hell of a ride.

>>59410697
Why only 4? That seems like a rather arbitrary restriction.

I'd say PSU and RAM because long warranty (lifetime in the case of RAM) and then probably the case and storage.

>>59410792
I am getting an SSD as well as a hard drive though, which would leave me with only two choices (will probablly get the RAM, which leaves me with either the case or the PSU)

>>59410770
Are you in a hippie commune?

>>59410814
Definitely PSU and RAM then. Get a good quality 650W and you should be good for anything, unless you're into some crazy SLI-setup.

Should I just get the asrock killer x370 while is in stock or should I wait for the taichi know there's production line issues atm? What are the beggest difference between those 2 motherboards?

>>59410815
Nah, it's just the city I live/work in is expensive as fuck, so I can only afford to rent a room in a house with 3 other people. It's actually pretty comfy, but noise is a huge issue.

>>59410832
I have 550W right now planned for it but Newegg says that their return policy is only for 30 days but their warranty is for 7 years, what is the difference between the two?

>>59410840
Taichi is the stripped down, non-ricer version of one of the other boards. It's the most cost-efficient X370 board you can buy right now.
If you want more features, go with the other boards.

>>59410885
It means that if something happens within 30 days you deal with Newegg, after 30 days the 7 year warranty is with the product manufacturer.

Rate me (poorfags need not reply with butthurt contrarianism)

https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/hWQnCy

>>59410903
But isn't the taichi the best atm?

>>59410945
But if its DOA and my Newegg warranty is up I can talk with the product manufacturer and get it replaced?

>>59410962
You should get a larger storage if you are operating on that high of a budget. Your case should not be around the same price range as your GPU.

>>59410968
For the money, yeah.
Crosshair VI is probably the best overall. (with 0902 bios)

>>59410981
I've heard mixed opinion s on the crosshair. Btw you didn't answer my initial question: is asrock x370 killer a good buy while the taichi line issues?

>>59408072
Nice

>>59410969
Sure, it just might take longer depending on the manufacturer's RMA process.

>>59401212
can someone post the image to choose the proper motherboard?

>>59411051
Curious, why do you reccomend RAM/PSU over RAM/case?

>>59410977
bigger storage is unnecessary. im only getting things i need

>>59411004
I dunno man, does it have the features you want? All of the X370 boards out are "Good", but just to varying degrees of good.

>>59411095
Warranty. Although if your heart is set on a case, you could get it instead. With the PSU a 650 will be good for most anything and if it's something like EVGA G2/G3 it has a 7-year warranty. The warranty starts ticking as soon as you buy. However, I suppose any case defects should become apparent before the warranty expires. I know personally i'm still mulling over form factor, so I wouldn't buy my case first.

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>>59411133
>im only getting things i need

he says with a straight face while spending $300+ on a meme case...

>>59411147
I guess I should post my build to help you out. Based on this, which should I order first, PSU or case?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zPbwKZ

>>59411133
And you NEED more storage, especially if you will be gaming. If you have a large budget, at least get a large SSD

>>59411135
Pretty much but idk will it be able to stabilize an oc cpu perfectly?

>>59411187
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zPbwKZ

Very solid build, although I think you're overspending on the GPU. I'd definitely hold off on the CPU/mobo and see what happens with the R5 if you can.

Get the case over the PSU for now, it's solid with a 5 year warranty.

>>59411224
I habe heard that rhe XFX GTR is pretty good and it has really solid reviews. What would you reccomend instead?

This pc is gonna be for gaming, i'm from Austria. Can i save some money without losing much performance?

CPU: Intel Core i5-7600K

Motherboard: MSI Z270 Gaming Pro

RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3000MHz

Graphics Card: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080

SSD: Samsung 960 Evo 250GB

HDD: Toshiba 3TB HDD

Power Supply: EVGA GQ 80 Plus Gold 650W

Case: Corsair 400C Black Window

Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series h100i v2

Monitor: Acer XG270HUomidpx 27-Inch

>>59409807
>IPC is higher
>instructions per clock is higher
>on the same chip
I get what you're saying, but instructions per clock is an inherent feature of an architecture. You mean to say clock speed is higher on the 1700X.

>>59410730
You act like all the people here putting gaming themed GPUs in their builds arent just making a gaming "console"

>>59411251
I'm getting an XFX because I heard the same things, but just get the 4gb one and save the ~$50 since you're only playing at 1080p. That will be plenty and you can just overclock the memory if you get into a pinch (not likely for a while).

>>59411264
Dont go with the GQ series of PSU, get the G2/G3 if you want gold.

For the SSD, you could go down to a 750 evo or if there are any decent deals, an MX300.

Everything else is solid.

>present day, present time
>need to assemble a new pc
>not sure if should go for i5 Kaby Lake or wait ryzen

>>59411355
>buying anything around its time of launch
wait for ryzen to be out for a year. before touching it.
other wise go for i5

>>59411264
Crucial MX300 SSD instead of Samsung. 1TB HDD. A cheaper air cooler? I don't know how fucked up prices are in Austria.

>>59411355
Wait for R5. Not a meme, don't buy an i5 if you can wait, you'll regret it.

>>59411376
I actually never bought an Intel CPU, have been using AMD desktops since I was born... but I guess I'll have to purchase from the competition

>>59411395
lol wat. ive had an i5 for 3 years. no regrets.
nice meme though friend

>>59411490
well, thats because youre used to get cucked by intel

>>59411508
>R5
>replies with more memes
ahahahaha stay classy /g/

I can afford a 1080ti now, ive never owned a reference card, how loud are these fucks compared to after market? For reference i have a 970 strix atm.

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>>59405421

Don't listen to the haters, Seagate rocks!

>>59411382
>Crucial MX300 SSD instead of Samsung.
Why? not him.