/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>59389518
I prefer the m40x

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is this the final boss of headphones search?

>>59389554
yep, end game for only $300

>>59389554
It fucking is for me. The 650 is the only thing that has come close. I'd love to hear the 800 and all the other ridiculously expensive headphones in comparison. I can't ever see myself 'upgrading' from them.

>>59389554
How does the HD600 compare to the AKG K712?

Grado 80e vs Sony MDR v6?

can some one give me an review of the mdr v6s?

>>59389739
>How does the HD600 compare to the AKG K712?
wipes the floor with it.

>>59389554
No, unless you are never going to listen to anything around anyone else. The lack of noise containment is a huge turn-off with these.

>>59389795
>MDR v6
this. Grados are antiques. mid-grade sound + extremely uncomfortable.

>>59389809
be an alpha and tell others to get their own cans. I've worked in an open office and no one complained about the noise from my cubicle. there's tons of other sound/noise in offices.

>>59389802
1. 600
2. 650
3. k712
4.702

That's my opinion. The k712s are clean, wide and have a fairly strong amount of bass. The problem is that the bass is bloated as fuck imo. The treble is also a bit harsh. The 600's make everything sound fucking perfect unless you're a mega bass head. Bass is the only downside, but they have just enough weight to make them enjoyable for rap etc.

Sennheiser HD 598 Cs or the DT770?

Which is the better choice?

>>59390008
>HD 598 Cs
great sound, nicer fit and a detachable cable.

>>59390008
DT 770's for sure

>>59390008
770's.

>>59390008
Grab the DT 770s

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speedy speed boy

>>59390008
DT 770s, easy.

They sound clearer than the HD 598 CS, and they isolate sound better too; which you'd probably want for closed headphones. Both headphones are comfy, but the 598 CS may be a tad bit comfier.

So I bought 598CS as a gift on black friday because of how good the 598's are. I've only just actually tried the 598CS I gifted on a regular PC audio setup. For comparison's sake I plugged my own open-backed 598's on the same wire and get the same sound as I'd expect from them.

I'm gonna be honest, they sounded absolutely fuckin terrible, like unbelievably bad. Is there something I'm missing here? I'm talking skullcandy bad. I'm wondering if the 598CS requires an amplifier or something to not sound like people shouting at you down a tin alleyway? Possibly a known QC issue? I feel compelled to make it right.

>>59390383
>required an amplifier

Probably not. They are not hard-to-drive headphones.

>>59390383
They're just bad. All they share with actual 598's is the name, they don't even use the same driver.

>>59390426
Gave me the idea of trying them both on my phone. They're certainly not similar headphones in terms of how they sound but the quality is pretty obviously better. There's still a touch of 'emptiness', but it's not complete shit like from the PC. Any reason why a particular PC would work well with one pair but not the other? And solutions? I'm thinking a PCI sound card unless that's not something people do now.

>>59390584
Are you using the headphones with your motherboard? That might be the case.

>>59390640
Yeah the onboard card. I'm trying to control as much as possible to identify the issue and the open backed 598's work just fine on it. Literally take the wire out and swap to the others and it sounds shit.

>>59390679
Do you know what DAC your motherboard uses, and does your 598 also sound better on your phone? Pretty confusing, to be honest.

>>59390832
One of the slightly better realteks but that's all I can remember. It's on a mid-high end mobo.

On my phone the open backed ones are better, quite a bit better, but the closed back ones don't sound terrible, like more in line with what they cost me to buy. From what I've read people report it sounds a little like the audio source is a radio which is in line with what I meant by emptiness.

Could be an EQ thing (though I never intentionally added one) in which the 598CS responds horribly. If I can just bypass everything with some integrated or semi-integrated solution then it's possibly worth the buy.

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Spent some time making an updated(new) guide. It should be more simple and neutral than before. I decided to ditch the price range but I haven't added any models below 200 dollars yet. Pros and cons were removed as they were rather contradicting and bullet points can be used for same things as well as describe other features without them being strictly positive or negative. Aesthetic changes all around but font stayed the same. This unfinished version includes open backs only.

So what to add, remove or change? Criticize and explain why.

>>59390988
I'll reply to people answering tomorrow. Now it's bedtime.

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>>59390322

>>59390988
I think you should add an "amplifier necessary" symbol. Saying that an amp is just "beneficial" for the HD800's could be misleading. In that price range it become sort of necessary.

>>59390988
Add the Philips SHP9500/9500S for ~$50.

Pros:
>Easy to drive; no AMP needed
>Comfy and light
>Decent build quality for the price
>Flat mid-range

Cons:
>Lacking sub-bass
>Non-replaceable pads
>Somewhat uneven treble response

Neutral:
>Somewhat bright sound signature
>Light clamp force
>Bass roll off

Other Notes:
>Pads are large but shallow
>Pads are replaceable with mods
>Overall plastic build with steel headbands
>'S' version includes no 3.5mm to 1/4" adaptor
>Cloth pads

>Inb4 Philips shill

>>59391011
Good night, sleepy time anon.

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>>59391505
>Add the Philips SHP9500/9500S for ~$50.
KYS, pajeet shill.

>>59391641
What? I'm not even him/her.

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I got no r8s on my portable setup last time
Pls r8 m8 no h8 b str8 no b8

>>59391641
Adding to >>59391676; what's so bad about those headphones compared to other headphones for the price range?

>>59390988
>DT880
>Comes in many variations
I think you could make that more specific with something like "comes in two variations with multiple impedance options" or simply exclude that part and add a "Pro version: X ohms, Y ohms etc"
"Premium version: "X ohms, Y ohms etc"

You could also say when a headphone as detachable cables, that's a plus for many people.

>>59391505
Using them. Love them. Comfortable as hell and sound great. Currently lurking for a closed back alternative with detachable cable for work.

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Gas
AK300 is just too sexy but I dont feel like spending that much money
what should I do

>>59391904
Save up money?

I need a quick rundown on how replay gain works and how I should use it. I have a playlist with about 350 songs, and some are from the 70s/80s before the loudness wars and all that jazz. If I have my player at an acceptable volume and a more recent track comes up my head explodes.
I used Foobar2000 and scanned per track gain, which added tags to the files that when I turned on replay gain on my Fiio X3 did normalize the volume and brought them all more or less to the same perceivable volume. The issue is that tracks were way too quiet and I had to crank the volume well past 100 which did kill the battery faster. What this did is bring all tracks down to the levels of the tracks from the 70's.
Is there a way to bring the volume of the old tracks up so I don't have to raise the volume so much?

>>59391686
I'm curious, where & when exactly do you listen to music with that setup?

>>59392002
Outside exclusively pretty much. Inside I use my K550's which can barely be seen on the right side.

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>>59390322
Good evening.

>>59392002
I have a similar setup (X1 + M6 Pro iems), I use it at work, when doing yard work, etc. Don't have to worry about it much since the X1 and the iems were both $50 each.

>>59392047
>Outside exclusively pretty much
Please expand your use case.

>>59392113
>I use it at work, when doing yard work, etc.
Interesting. How much isolation do they have?

Is this legit?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SHURE-SE535-Sound-Isolating-Earphones-RED-UE-CONNECTOR-SELLER-REFURBISHED-/191806784709?hash=item2ca89344c5:g:nWsAAOSwQYZWwX3U

>>59390988
Listing both pros and cons might be a good idea, or at least more than just 4 points about each one

HD 650 needs its own spot next to the HD 600 rather than existing only as a bullet point

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>>59390322
Good evening, Anon.

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Should i buy this Xiaomi relaxed headphones? They seem comfy but I can't find a review of them, or should I buy the hybrid headphones? Thanks

>>59392181
>Interesting. How much isolation do they have?
There isn't any technical specs listed for isolation, but they do isolate really well for me, using the large triple flange tips. Without playing any music, outside noise sounds like using NPR ~30 dB ear plugs.

>>59392248
They're garbage. Save your money and buy something better.

>>59389802
>>59389823
>>59390030
>>59391641
Dude, you stick out like you have a user name.

>>59389554
> two cables to the headphones, one to each side
> cables are non-detachable
> doesn't have Bluetooth
> doesn't act as a USB sound card when connected to a computer
> doesn't even have USB
this isn't the 1960s

>>59390640
>>59390679
You will many times get better results from your on-board audio if you connect your headphones to the audio output on the back of your computer. The DACs on all newer motherboards are excellent. The cables that go from the motherboard to the front panel connector on most cases are cheap, rarely isolated and act as an antenna which picks up all kinds of things from the components inside your box.

>>59392422
>cables are non-detachable
Wrong

>>59392438
>Proprietary cable

Might as well be.

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>>59392422
> cables are non-detachable
>>59392460
>Proprietary cable

>>59392422
>> two cables to the headphones, one to each side
better than fucking cables that go to only one side and then snake through the headband. Those are prone to breaking.

>> cables are non-detachable
stfu

>> doesn't have Bluetooth
kek'd. I see you're a comedian now and this is a pretty good bait.

>>59392460
>Might as well be.
it's not proprietary. there's dozens of types of repalcements you can buy. even chinks sell them for $15 on chinkshit sites.

>>59392484
Again, you stick out like you have a username.

>>59392519
I fail to see your point. yes, I don't capitalize sentences but so what. get a life dude. at least have a fucking argument in your posts.

>>59392484
>>> doesn't have Bluetooth
>kek'd. I see you're a comedian now and this is a pretty good bait.
You seem to be one of those who whined when CDs replaced the LP so I'll give you a clue:

Both USB and Bluetooth 4 has more than enough bandwidth to carry stereo audio. Both of these give you a digital signal directly to the headphones. It's then up to the DAC in the headphones to feed it's AMP with something awesome the drivers can feed your ears.

If you buy a toy $20 bluetooth headset then you're going to get a cheap half-baked DAC and cheap-ass drivers. If you pay for good audio quality you'll get something that sounds totally awesome and it will do so regardless of what device is playing. The advantage of being able to get that amazing sound on your phone, laptop, desktop computer or anything else is huge. Those outdated headphones which just have that old 3.5mm connector just don't cut it. Many don't even sound right without a dedicated DAC+AMP.

>>59392648
Not only that, but you constant shilling of Sennheiser bothers me; even when they are completely shit.

>>59390030

>>59392659
I don't want batteries you dumbfuck. I don't want dropouts whenver someone turns on a fucking microwave. I don't want pops and clicks when I use a USB3 device or use wifi. I don't want headphones with a shit impedance and shit dynamics range because of shit power requirements. I don't want headphones that I can't quickly adjust volume on.

Bluetooth is fucking garbage.

>>59392699
guy asks a question about 598, I reply. what the fuck am I shilling? am I posting advertisements? am I bringing up sennheiser or 598 into every reply I make? am I making posts and sennheiser?

you're a fucking idiot and a shithead.

>>59392728
Man, not only that, but you get mad too easily.

>>59389802
>>59390030

>>59392699
Not him, but I own the 598 Cs and they are not shit. They're good at that $100 closed back price range.

>>59392751
are you that guy who constantly shills Philips garbage headphones and gets butthurt when people call him up on it? or are you that Schiit shill who constantly posts links to Fulla2, headfi and audiobot? if you want shills, those are shills. just because I prefer 598 over dt770 and reply to a guy who asked about preference doesn't make me a shill. I couldn't care less what you retards buy.

>>59392702
>I don't want batteries you dumbfuck.
Too bad. :)

> I don't want dropouts whenver someone turns on a fucking microwave.
Doesn't happen.

> I don't want pops and clicks when I use a USB3 device or use wifi.
Also doesn't happen.

> I don't want headphones with a shit impedance and shit dynamics range because of shit power requirements.
Then don't buy cheap ones.

> I don't want headphones that I can't quickly adjust volume on.
That's what those huge buttons on the headphones are for. They also let you play/pause and switch track.

You don't have to be so mad just because sennheiser doesn't make any modern headphones. There's probably museums and old people who want that outdated crap.

Personally... if a pair of headphones don't have bluetooth and USB then they ain't worth my consideration anymore. USB is less important, I guess I could live with that but there are computers that don't have Bluetooth and situations where Bluetooth and other wireless aren't allowed (not that I go to the hospital that frequently...).

>>59392702
why are you so mad because new technology has replaced old?

>>59392767

They are pretty coloured and can get muddy at times. For the price, I can argue AKG and Beyerdynamic make better closed headphones.

>>59392788
No, i'm different; I don't think that he has posted in awhile. But I am curious, what makes the HD 598 Cs better than the DT 770? All I got was """great""" sound.

>>59389372
Just got Grado SR80e for 50$ on ebay. Did I fug up /hpg/? My only other pair of good headphones were HD650 but they broke 6 months ago.

>>59392872
>tfw I just got a pair of sr60e's for $52 on ebay
Put me out of my misery

>>59392872
>Broke after 6 months

Kek. What happened?

>>59392790
>Doesn't happen.
It does.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bluetooth+microwave+interference

>>59392790
>Also doesn't happen.
It does.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=usb3+bluetooth+interference

>>59392790
>Then don't buy cheap ones.
even the expensive ones don't have good dynamic range. price has nothing to do with it. weight and batteries do.

>>59392790
>That's what those huge buttons on the headphones are for. They also let you play/pause and switch track.
I don't wanna tap to the side of my head. that produces noise since earcups act like a drum.

anyway, I know you're trolling but Bluetooth is fucking shit. serious audio quality lovers should avoid it like a plague. it's only good for voice and calls.

>>59392887
Left driver gave out completely, it always had a slight whine to it, so it wasn't surprising. They were also a refurb pair from Amazon from like 2011, so they definitely lasted longer than I thought they would.

>>59392863
>No, i'm different; I don't think that he has posted in awhile. But I am curious, what makes the HD 598 Cs better than the DT 770? All I got was """great""" sound.
dt707 are v-shaped and 598 is more neutral. cable is also not detachable on dt770 and you can't easily buy a replacement for it (you have to send it to manufacturer and if it's not under warranty, you've just lost them). ear cups on dt770s are round and big while 598's are oval which seal your ears a lot better.

for all those reasons, I prefer 598.

>>59392941
What? Are we talking about the same CLOSED EDITION 598s?

>>59389739
HD600 is flatter - it has less bass and less treble, K712 is a bit like a rollercoaster in response, warm bass, thick lower midrange, slight dip at 1kHz, then rises up at 2kHz, then dips at 4kHz and a bit harsh at 7kHz. Not really a problem unless you're an autist like me.

HD600 has a dip around 8kHz but dips are less noticeable than peaks.

>>59390008
DT770.

>>59389795
MDR-V6.

>>59390988
You could mention HD800S the same way you mentioned HD650 as a different alternative without making a separate mention.

>>59389518
feels good to have these on my head rn

>>59390008
598CS, unless bass is all you care about.

>>59393007
Have you replaced the earpads?

>>59393063
Funny because I owned both and 598Cs is fucking muddy garbage.

I say this as a HD600 shill too.

>>59390008
DT 770s are v-shaped with emphasis on treble and bass.

HD 598 Cs' warm headphones with colorization. They can also get really muddy at times.

Both have their pros and cons, so pick whichever you'd like.

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Can anyone suggest some headphones I can look into?
I really liked my m50s.

>Budget
Approx $150
>Location
Usa
>Source
Asus xonar essence stx
>Type of headphone
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Sound signature
Don't care
>Past headphones
M50

>>59393320
m50x

>>59393320
m40x

>>59393320
DT770 80 ohm

>>59393320
m30x

>>59393320
DT 770 or Custom One Pro

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>>59390988
You mixed up the > and <

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Post cans

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alright i need some advice. ive got roughly $25 dollars and i need to replace my Sony-MDRZX110W headphones. they have lasted me a long time and work fairly well for being so cheap, but my new computers soundcard has an awful amp inside so im going to need a new pair with a usb or battery powered amp. if theres another solution for this that lets me use these for longer im fine with that too. im also in the market for a microphone so i was thinking of getting a meme headset used like the turtlebeach DXL1, but the last pair i got had to be rewired like 4 times in a single year so im hesitant to buy another pair. so basically
>want to spend about $25, theres some wiggle room if needed
>want over the ear/on the ear headphones
>needs an amp to raise the volume
>if i can fit a mic, even just a clip-on in that would be appreciated
cute anime included to inspire visions of you helping a young girl

>>59393901
>>needs an amp to raise the volume
What the fuck does that even mean
Get the Monoprice DJ you poorfag animeposter

>>59393901
monoprice 8323. They're uncomfortable, but bearable if you stretch them out or buy different pads. Then you can buy a $1 lapel mic.

>>59393901
>my new computers soundcard has an awful amp inside so im going to need a new pair with a usb or battery powered amp.
This isn't something you're going to fix for 25 bucks, including headphones.

>>59393960
those look perfect! thanks alot anon, it doesnt help my volume problem but its definitely worth getting.
>>59393973
well thats why i was looking into "gaming" headsets, because they all seem to come with some form of usb powered volume control. this problem is stupid as fuck, ive never had a laptop with such shitty hardware before, its actually pitiful.

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>>59393592
668B's with SR950 Pads

>>59394002
You probably won't need an amp with them, I can drive them off of anything and be alright. There are some amps that are like $30 you could get in the future though.

>>59394002
You could probably get a cheap adapter like this
https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-accessories/usb-sound-adapter-ryf-certified
To control the volume outside your soundcard. I'm not sure how they perform, but I guess you get what you pay for. You could probably find a similar dongle for cheaper.
https://store.vikings.net/libre-friendly-accessories/usb-sound-adapter-ryf-certified

>>59394046
>>59394030
thanks alot for the help guys, i can now make a semi-informed decison :^)

>>59394166
>using the smiley with a carat nose

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>>59393592

>>59395279
Did you sell the 500X/518's for K702's?

>>59395399
1. Those are K701s, not K702s.
2. I'm not who you think I am. Never had any of the headphones you listed.

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>>59393592

>>59391052
Good taste in waifus/headphone/music.

Let's have some lulz:

https://www.pcgamesn.com/best-gaming-headset

Can anyone give a rundown on the K240/M40X/HD558? Looking for some new cans, build quality and comfort are probably my biggest priorities (aside from sound).

not really hpg, but
>jewtuber with ear piercing voice because they can't buy a semi decent mic.

why people do this?

>>59396217
HD558 are comfy AF and definitely better than M40X. Any AT cans below M50X are not worth looking at.

As for K240, they're all over the place looking at FR. Avoid.

http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=2611&graphID%5B1%5D=2861&graphID%5B2%5D=573&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=30&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph

Just track HD598se prices for sales, or give up and get HD558 now.

>>59392248
If you're gonna buy /csg/ headphones, I'd recommend the Superlux 668B's with some AKG pads.

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>>59392659
>Those outdated headphones which just have that old 3.5mm connector just don't cut it.
oWo whats this??

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>>59396112

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Do we have a updated list?

>>59396995
What does "not portable" or "not really portable" mean?

I've got up to 200 euros to blow on cans TODAY looking at dt 770, alternatives?

>>59397206
Theyre just big/heavy so it isnt realistic to carry them around. Foldable ones are generally pretty portable.

>>59397216
Aite I'll mostly keep them in my bag but definitely something to consider. Thanks

Any good portable buys for under 200 other than >>59396995?

What is /g/s opinion on Bose? I just got a set of noicw cancelling Bose headphones today. Expensive but the best experience I have ever witnessed

>>59393592
>>59395279
>>59395854
Who knew /hpg/ was so /planar/

>>59397536
Mediocre in terms of sound quality. Only worthwhile for the ANC.

After being surprised at these being sold in my 3rd world city, I bought me them koss portapro. I intended to get some cheap in ears for the daily university commute, as I have my PreSonus HD7 for home usage, but lady luck smiled upon me, and these will hopefully last longer.
Loving them so far.
Is there anything I should be aware of?
Any recommended mods?
I don't plan on gutting them right now tbqh.

>>59396677
Like the HD600?

*facedesk*

>>59397536
There's far better cans that bose's, at any price point.

Buy only if you're an idiot, or if you bought into the noise cancellation meme (same thing really).

>>59392906
>It does.
Apparently it does happen or did happen in some cases.

I do have a microware and I do have USB 3.0 harddrives. My headphones supports bluetooth 4 just like every other device out there.

I personally don't experience any issues or drop-outs or anything like that if I pop popcorn in the microwave or copy files around on USB 3.0 harddrives.

>>59392906
>it's only good for voice and calls.
This was true 10 years ago when BT had limited bandwidth and used the SBC codec. Some really cheap csg speakers still use that garbage.

Today there's more than enough bandwidth.

There is a reason why many buy those USB DAC+AMPs for their headphones: You get a digital signal directly to the DAC chip - which is the case if that DAC chip is in some external box besides your computer and it is also the case if that DAC chip is in your headphones.

You probably still don't get it, and something tells me that you can't. That's fine.

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Is there any way to force a set of Bluetooth headphones to work through USB? Someone gave me some nice JVC headphones, but they have a nasty delay whenever I try using it on my desktop.

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I had no idea headphones could be so enjoyable to listen to music with after 3 years with my ATH M50's. They felt oppressive comparatively, it was never really enjoyable, it was incredibly fatiguing both in terms of comfortability and how claustrophobic, pushy and "close" the sound was.

>>59398476
Welcome to open-back headphones.

Next step: Get an amp. The HD558 and HD598 sound way better with one, due to their odd impedance vs frequency curves.

>>59392185
Ask for a shot of the damper inside the nozzle?

>>59391955
>how replay gain works
Metadata adjusts track gain based on RMS level and sample peak level.
>Is there a way to bring the volume of the old tracks up so I don't have to raise the volume so much?
ReplayGain target is predefined, based on consideration of peak, RMS, and possibly by album.
You can make your own adjustments, but it wouldn't be ReplayGain.
Or, you can hardcode the level adjustments, with much more significant risk of overload.

>>59390988
>uses standard TRS connectors
All of the non-Stax models do. I guess you mean 3.5 mm or the cable end attached to the headphones.
-HD 800 response is quite stable, but compared to some of the other headphones, it isn't especially linear.
-As mentioned before, you mixed up the greater than and less than symbols.
-Should we mention the Stax combo instead of the headphone? Electrostatic amplifiers are a niche within a niche, although you can get the amplifier elsewhere,
-Probably should clarify the different Z versions of the DT 880

>>59392227
-We purposefully got rid of those pros/cons. Let's try a different way: why why would think that the guide's approach is not appropriate?
-HD 650 has large overlap with the HD600. It's the same base, with a little twist.

>>59398634
What are my options living in Europe? I can't find the Schiit anywhere.

I want a budget one, I wouldn't spend more than 100 dollars.
Also, I'm really skeptical of audiophile equipment, I'm not someone that can even tell 192kbps and 320kbps apart, so I would get pretty mad if I spent money on one then having a hard time hearing a difference.

>>59398634
>>59398476
>Get an amp.
The term you want is impedance buffer.
>The HD558 and HD598 sound way better with one, due to their odd impedance vs frequency curves.
-That's not true, since it still has the midbass inherent to its design.
-You seem to have an abject failure to grasp impedance. Please learn to use phasors.

>>59398750
>Options
>Less than 100 dollars

Try a Fiio, I use the e10k. Great little device(s). The moment I disconnect my headphones from it I immediately notice a different in sound quality.

>>59398805
>The moment I disconnect my headphones from it I immediately notice a different in sound quality.
Pretty sure that goes for disconnecting headphones from anything ever unless you're not listening to anything.

>>59398890
Alright you cheeky cunt.

>>59398901
D-don't hurt me, Anon-kun.

>>59398805
Is that a difference you genuinely feel good about at that price range? What is the difference like? Is it obvious or more subtle?

>>59398476
Those 558s are fantastic for long wearing/listening sessions. Your ears won't hurt and you'll forget you have them on. Sound's pretty good too.

I can't stand those V-shaped sound headphones. They distort everything and after 4 hrs, my ears hurt and it's as if someone's driving nails into my inner ears. Hair cells really don't like deep and sibilant sounds for a long time.

>>59399012
I'm not technical when it comes to audio, so this will be layman's terms. I'm using SHP9500. When switching from direct connection to even just this small little DAC/AMP there's a noticeable increase in clarity, audio is crisp. The soundstage is much more pronounced, I can make out directional audio properly even in say music that doesn't make proper use of it, and the bass is stronger, much more discernible. There's been a noticeable increase in audio quality ever since I started using this and I love it. I used to use some AKGs and there was an immediate difference in quality too.

>>59398410
>Today there's more than enough bandwidth.
it's not about the bandwidth but about the power, dumbass. Batteries are heavy so they conserve them and to conserve them, you lower the range.

just look at the frequency response curves of bluetooth headphones... they're all shit.

I want to buy some cheap (30€ is perfect) headphones for listening to music at home from my laptop / smartphone, no DAC / amp yet.
Right now I'd go for the Samson SR850, because I don't like the looks of the Superlux 668B.
Is that a good choice?

Got the Creative Aurvana Live's as my first nice headphones, and I really enjoy the sound; looking for an open upgrade along the same lines.
Used to have HD280's and I much prefer the sound signature of these.

What would be a good open back around $200-250 US with a comparable sound?

>>59398750
The schiit likes to do direct sales in USA, but they have retailers in EU too.

See: http://schiit.com/faq/international

>>59399146
>Superlux 668B
See if you can get PreSonus headphones then, basically the same thing as Superlux.

So, got myself a Fiio E10K and... it's neither underwhelming nor overwhelming, it's just ok, but no noticeable difference with the Creative Omni I've been using. Maybe my Momentums produce too muddy sound to really notice it.

If the goddamn shops in Russia accepted returns I'd try Dragonfly, but alas, will have to wait for a few years until this one breaks down.

>>59399091
>Hair cells really don't like deep and sibilant sounds for a long time.
Hair cells don't like loud sounds in general. The middle ear has dynamic compression mechanisms built in to protect the inner ear, the stapedius muscle and tensor tympani.
Tangents aside, the ear is particularly insensitive to low frequency sounds.

>>59399140
>not about bandwidth but about the power, dumbass. Batteries are heavy so they conserve them and to conserve them, you lower the range.
Now we're talking about a different sort of bandwidth.
Instead of data rate of Bluetooth, we are now looking at the spectrum, the range of frequencies that can be transmitted with the given codec.

Given the general power spectrum of audio signals that are of interest, low pass filtering would have a minimal effect on power draw for a very significant degradation of the sound quality. Any bandwidth limiting performed is for lossy audio transmission and data rate concerns, not for power draw.

>just look at the frequency response curves of bluetooth headphones... they're all shit
If a Bluetooth headphone has an uneven spectral balance, the codec would not have any effect aside from the bandwidth limit, which is not so easily observed in measured result. The problem is acoustics, a mechanical fault.

Well, E10K started giving me regular BSODs, there goes that.

>>59399892
It's just a USB class1 device and doesn't require extra drivers. It can't give you BSOD. your Windows is probably fucked. Upgrade to a real OS, fucking wintoddler.

>>59399892
>BSOD
>With a DAC/AMP

What the fuck did you do?

Anyone know of a good quality replacement cable w/mic and/or remote control? I feel like it would be a great addition to any headphone.
International shipping is a must

>>59399892
u wot m8?
I'd be worried af, that should definitely not happen

>>59399918
Maybe it was the ASIO driver, uninstalled it for now, not that I need it.

Also, sorry for liking Windows, I use macs for work for coding iOS apps and deploy backends on Linux, but I don't like either as a home OS. No, I won't install Gentoo or BSD either.

>>59399930
>>59400028
It was probably the ASIO driver, let's see if I get crashes after uninstalling it.

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I can get Nightowl or Nighthawk for <$300. Which to get?

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Thoughts of MSR7?

>>59400313
Well built, and sound good. Only issue is that they don't fold.

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>>59400326
Fuck me dead I didn't think buying a pair of headphones would be so difficult.

I can go up to 300 euros tops but I need portability and comfort. Need them by Thursday at the latest for a flight so closed is necessary

>>59400403
Fill out the form. You'll get more reccs than just asking about certain headphones.

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which one of you faggots is this?

>>59400422
Nobody here cares enough for chinese workers' lungs to post that.

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>>59400403
>>59400417
Repost from yesterday
>Budget
300 euros
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro / Dell Inspiron
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High, up to 4-6 hours listening at a time possible
>Sound signature
Unsure, listen to metal, hip hop, electronic and classical, basically general. I'm no hardcore audiophile
>Past headphones
Shure se215s. Keeping these for my gym/workout routines

>extras
Detachable cable is pretty essential as I am somewhat cursed at destroying cables so the option to replace future cables or have spares is key

Thx bros

>>59400422
there's like 1.2 billion of them. no one gives a fuck about workers.

>>59400313
A lot less treble than word of mouth might suggest. I blame the 9-10 kHz peak.

>>59400422
Some issues here.
Stiffness and mass are both very relevant as part of speed of sound and wave propagation on the diaphragm. Worrying about the associated breakup frequency with a 10 mm driver is a bit odd, there are many more tangible issues with wave propagation in the earpiece and ear canal.
As far as resonant frequency and wave speed are concerned, stiffness counteracts the increase in mass rather simply.

The manufacturer actually comes in and addresses some of them, although I take a different stance than he does on the time-frequency representation.

>>59400444
Not so likely to be made in China, expendable unskilled labor aside.
High purity beryllium is usually fashioned in more developed nations; workers will have their own isolated air supply and suit.

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Is this the future of headphones?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3D6_cW1CA

article: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/akg-n90q-noise-canceling-auto-calibrating-over-ear-headphones

Damn sure looks like it. Absolutely fascinating. Only bad thing is the price.. $1500. Hope the features trickle down into cheaper products.

>>59401418
I don't know much about audio crap, but headphones with DAC doesn't sound like a good idea since it forces you to use this specific DAC.

>>59401503
No one can tell DACs apart. No A/B test so far has successfully discern between decent DACs.

>>59401503
Integrating other components (DAC, amp, etc) could be a benefit, as manufactures could tailor the headphone to those specific components, given that these components are good performing and not crap.

>>59401553
Exactly. And given how these headphones and "map out your ears", they can tailor the sound to you perfectly.

$1500 is way too much. Hope they and other manufacturers can bring it down to $400-500.

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>>59401418
jbl everest elite 700 has all the same tech for much less. also added BT. didn't really like the sound though.

>>59401611
JBL & AKG are both owned by Kardon. These AKG ones appear to be another level of sound quality and features. Also, fuck BT.

>>59399182
>Budget
~$200-250 US
>Source
Phone/mobo
>Type
Full Sized, Open
>Sound Signature
Warm/v-shaped
>Comfort
Important, long listening intended
>Past Headphones
HD280, Creative Aurvana Live.

I really enjoy the sound of the Aurvana's, and would like to find an open backed equivalent of them.
From my understanding, the CAL have a mostly warm sound with a bit of brightness in the treble, so a V-shaped sound might also fill my needs.

Seems like the Fidelio X2's might be what I'm looking (detachable cable is a big plus), but I don't want anything with bloated, muddy bass and harsh highs.

>>59401550
Well that's not quite true since just today I did hear a discernible difference between E10K and Dragonfly Red with the latter giving a cleaner sound (but not enough to justify its fucking price, the difference really is small).

>>59401553
That is if you trust the manufacturer to make the exact combo that works well for your specific ears since audio is a ridiculously subjective matter for those who care to spend these amounts of money.

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I think this might be a solution to my problems instead of splurging on phones and DACs so tell me, how should I set up the EQ for a brighter (Clearer? Cleaner? I don't know the terms well) sound? Everything on zero makes the music feel muddy to me, doing picrelated is definitely a step in the right direction, but doesn't feel quite right with some tracks feeling a bit distorted.

Muddy, as in it feels like I'm listening to 90s radio and not 2017 equipment, it's obviously a subjective problem with my ears

>>59401679
>Well that's not quite true since just today I did hear a discernible difference between E10K and Dragonfly Red with the latter giving a cleaner sound (but not enough to justify its fucking price, the difference really is small).

That seems more like the amp involved than the DAC.

>That is if you trust the manufacturer to make the exact combo that works well for your specific ears since audio is a ridiculously subjective matter for those who care to spend these amounts of money.

That depends, the headphone itself is part of their 'lifestyle' line, not their pro line. They are rather ridiculously priced for a BT headphone, but I think the marketing is more towards the people who are part of the 'latest and greatest' and/or want (possibly) the best of the best, coming from headphones like that of Bose, if they have the money to spend.

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>>59401679
>Well that's not quite true since just today I did hear a discernible difference
That's the reason why Head-Fi banned even the mention of blind A/B testing. They don't wanna upset bullshit peddlers like Schiit, Oppo, Chord and the like.

While most people can tell headphones apart and some can even tell a tube vs solid-state amp apart, no one can tell DACs apart.

>>59401729
it depends on a headphone and also on your hearing and also on your musical preferences. No one can tell you what the perfect EQ is without knowing more about your headphones.

>>59401780
Well those two were DAC/Amp combos so maybe that's why

DT770 or DT880 or DT990?
I can amp any of them.
Which one is the best of the three?
They seem about the same price.

>>59401794
Sennheiser Momentum Over-Ear 1st gen, I mostly listen to weeb pop and rock music, basically anime openings and doujin music. I prefer the sound to be clean (bright?), most importantly, and not feel like there's no bass at all (not a bass junkie but I do appreciate it to an extent).

>>59401836
Maximum detail and bright screams 702 to me. They're incredible when it comes to that and sound stage

K7XX vs HD650? I have the K7XX but it sounds a bit too analytical and thin for me.

>>59401827
Depends on what you want really.
770 for closed/V-shape
880 for 'semi-open/Bright
990 for open/V-shape

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>>59400509
Bump

>>59401624
AKG came out earlier as expensive prototypes. the Everst Elite 700 are what came out of it.

>>59401998
They're open and for many reasons I'm only ever considering closed headphones, is there anything closed that could be a fit?

And even so, if I can fix it with EQ to an extent, as imperfect as it would be, I'd rather do that for now.

Closed full headphones for listening to rock?

Budget $200 usd

>>59402326
I don't think you could ever get close to a 702 with a closed headphone. Even with an EQ. I've never tried a high end closed headphone but all the apparent good ones are very expensive, like £500+ expensive.

>>59396995

>HD800 is completely neutral meme

when will this end

>>59402388
The updated (WIP) guide doesn't state that anymore.
>>59390988

>>59396995
>The list prefers the 650 over the 600

AbsoluteTrash.jpg. Literal mid bass pleb version.

>>59402383
What about K550? A review I've seen said they are "literally closed K702". And I understand that open-backs generally sound much better than closed ones, but that's a compromise I have to make.

>>59402433
>The updated (WIP) guide doesn't state that anymore.
that guide is pretty shitty.

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>>59402063
>K7XX vs HD650? I have the K7XX but it sounds a bit too analytical and thin for me.
Heh? K7xx is actually a bit warm... definitely not analytical.

anyway, watch this comparison between K7XX and HD650

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5AehRDKf-g

unless you're rich, I wouldn't bother and would stick with K7xx. if you're rich, then just buy whatever.

>>59402492
>K550

Jesus christ no. I swear to god I'm not lying when I say that my brother bought them two weeks ago and returned them as soon as I pointed out how bad they were. He's owned good headphones before but he wanted something different (and closed) for his office job. It was weird how he didn't realize how bad they were. I tried them out and I couldn't believe how shit they were, they're actually the worst full size headphone I've ever tried. Zero bass for closed headphones and they just sound completely off. I'm a bit of an AKG fan too, I really like the 702 and k712, though they have some problems.

Anyone know where I can get an AKG k240 Studio cable?
I've tried almost everywhere and I can't find anything.

>>59402601
Are you just looking for a replacement cable? Broke mine and found replacement on amazon.

>>59402601
I'm pretty sure any professional audio distributor can supply them since it is a headphone that is practically omnipresent.

>>59402601

https://www.amazon.co.uk/AKG-TA3F-VDPPMIBK0150-NYS231BG-P2-Pioneer-Replacement-Headphone/dp/B00MVCNAHK/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1489520401&sr=1-1&keywords=akg+k240+cable

Amazon and ebay sell literally anything you need.

>>59391443
Drive requirements are not dictated by price or market status so that will not be included.

>>59391505
It's likely one of the more affordable options I'll include.

>>59391794
>comes in two variations with multiple impedance options
Less ambiguous than what I put there and still short. I'll change it.

>>59392999
>You could mention HD800S the same way you mentioned HD650 as a different alternative without making a separate mention.
I could. Or I could take both of them out because I don't see much point to them. Only a small difference in the magnitude response and aesthetics with increased price.

>>59398695
>I guess you mean 3.5 mm or the cable end attached to the headphones.
Yes. I should reword it.
>it isn't especially linear.
True enough with the planar magnetic headphones included there.
>symbols
Yeah.
>Should we mention the Stax combo instead of the headphone?
Perhaps. It used to be like that before. I haven't checked prices but if the combo is cheaper than buying separately it's probably a good idea to include that as a whole. People already into the niche of electrostatic headphones will find or build their own amps anyway.

>>59401418
Very cool. I'm interested in understanding how does the auto calibrating work in more detail. I wonder if they can update the software there? The notch after 4 KHz is significant.

>>59402433
The guides I made never did. That old guide isn't of my handiwork.

>>59402552
It's very much work in progress.
>shitty
Anything particular?

Looking for earphones with a budget of £25

Been rocking VSD1S since 2014 but they got stolen

Should I get another pair? Or is there something better now?

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>>59401836
>>Sennheiser Momentum Over-Ear 1st gen, I mostly listen to weeb pop and rock music, basically anime openings and doujin music. I prefer the sound to be clean (bright?), most importantly, and not feel like there's no bass at all (not a bass junkie but I do appreciate it to an extent).
Sorry, had to be on the phone for a while.
Going by the curve, I'd just EQ +3dB of treble. Say, from 8k-12kHz. That would make them sound better to my ears. Give it a try.

>>59402561
They look gay as fuck.
It's like they made it to sell it to teenagers.

I'd go for something with more tradition.

>>59402685
>auto calibrating work in more detail.
From what I read in that article, headphones have tiny microphones inside the ear cup and then the speaker sends out some frequencies and bounces them off your ears and mics pick it up and based on some lookup table, it pics the best DSP profile.

> I wonder if they can update the software there
I bet it can. Firmware updates for headphones can't be that far away!

I wonder if you could upload your favorite EQ into them and then just have the same sound on any device you want... I don't see why this can't be done soon. This tech is in its infancy. Good stuff ahead!

>>59402747
What adult cares what their headphones look like
Jfc

Bumpuuuu
>>59402703

>>59402770
What do I care about what you think adults care about.
I know I wouldn't buy them because they look gay af

>>59402561
Custom One Pros are better and cheaper.

>>59402770
What adult would want to wear metal gear solid ayylmao 1080p no scope headphones?

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>Budget
Under $500
>Location
USA
>Source
OnePlus 3
>Type of headphone
Fully over-ear but must not be large and goofy looking
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
HD650

I'm looking for a wired full-sized over-the-ear headphone for gym use but it must not look goofy. I'm thinking about Oppo PM-3.

>>59403030
>Past headphones: 650

Good luck getting closed ones that don't sound like absolute shit in comparison.

>>59402706
So leaving 20kHz at zero then. Sounds pretty nice, doesn't feel like it could get better with EQ so I'll leave it at that then. Thanks!

Using HD650s ampless, am getting one soon, but I notice a slight bias towards the right side, sometimes it is there, and sometimes it isn't. I have tried it with my phone, and straight from my PC, my phone seems balanced enough. Do I need to worry about this or will the amp fix it?

>>59402685
>>59402760
>I'm interested in understanding how does the auto calibrating work in more detail.
Small microphone array mounted into cup measures response, makes adjustment based on response. The goal is to flatten the result outside of the ear. Then, it is subject to transfer function of the ear, and presumably convolved out by mental processes, per Gunter Theile's association model.

Details are in the paper.
>Characterizing the Frequency Response of Headphones—A New Paradigm
The paper is in the MEGA link, describes a prototype version of N90Q. This isn't an AKG idea, it has more to do Harman at Northridge.
Everything that made a nice set of headphones to EQ, spatially consistent and reproducible response plus linearity carries over here.

>auto-calibration
I don't specifically recall the use of an array or any such product being sold as a high-fidelity product before. The concept of auto adjusting headphones is not that new, it is somewhat related to active noise cancellation. I'm sure this has been implemented in a couple of ANC models from Senn and Bose before.
N90Q measurements are at Seeko, I don't know if they calibrated it. Should be another set elsewhere.

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Does anyone have experience with Fidelio S2? Just ordered a pair for a good price and was wonder what I should expect.

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>>59393592

Is there any actual science behind how you "get used" to how different headphones sound when you switch between pairs or is it just placebo?

>>59403030
save yourself some cash and get the msr7's if you're going to be knocking them about at the gym anyways

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>>59393592
>>59392113
Forgot to include my M6 Pro iems.

>Budget
$50 or less
>Location
United States
>Source
Phone and MP3 player
>Type of headphone
Earbuds/IEMs
>Open or Closed
N/A
>Comfort Level
Somewhat comfortable but I don't care too much
>Sound Signature
Neutral or slightly bassy

Help me out, /hpg/

>Budget
Less than $100 preferably ($80 is sweet spot)
>Location
US
>Source
Headphone/mic jack
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Either is fine
>Comfort level
Just something that fits on my ears, nothing too special. Want something that I can wear for hours and not hurt.

Are the M40X the best closed over ears for less than 100 bucks? Looking for something I can use for the gym and running, and no, I won't get IEMs

>>59403928
Vsonic GR02 Bass Edition or Soundmagic E30

>>59403997
If you're fine with getting new pads on them, they're nice travel cans. I'd also look into Status CB-1's/Somic MM185.

>>59402585
R u sure about that? Most people I've heard describe its sound as analytical

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>>59404271
complete ass

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HyperX Cloud are the absolute best under-$100 headphones on the market. Never had a pair last longer than these [spoiler]2years[/spoiler]. Took them on a plane trip there and back to watch animu on my phone.

The metal connections are just fucking spectacular. Why does nobody else make metal headphones anymore? Why are chinks, of all people, the ones that make durable shit?

>>59404421
>HyperX Cloud are the absolute best under-$100 headphones on the market.

Kek

Are they the only non skull candy headphones you've ever used?

They're decent for what they are, but you can do better for the price.

>>59404510
>you can do better for the price
I'm sure you could in sound quality, but I don't think you can for an all around purchase. If the Takstars were still available, then that would be a cheaper option for practically the same quality, but you can't find those in the US anymore.

>>59404271
Buyer's remorse.

>>59404563
You can like 3 different oem versions of the Pro 80's on Amazon right now, and they're cheaper than the clouds.
The one by Basstyle has a detachable cable too.

Try again

>>59404613
So link them nigger. Every other version I've seen available have been more than $70. I wouldn't mind having a spare set.

What are the most effay headphones? I dont mind about the sound as much as the looks.

>>59404634
Basstyle TH-5001 and the Gemini HSR-1000.

I've seen others but you get the point.

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>>59404654
Probably the Jecklin Float.

>>59404654
Full size will always look stupid and should be used in house only. Seriously, use fucking IEMS out in public. That said, if you want good looking closed headphones in general then the 770's are one of the best choices imo, or those incredibly expensive candy red, or wood looking fostex,

>>59400509
I've got exactly the same request.

Can anyone help me pick a pair of headphones?
>Budget
Max is about £40-45
>Location
UK
>Source
Smartphone/PC
>Type of headphone
Full sized but portable ideally, unless someone can suggest a sturdy pair of IEMs
>Open or closed
Would prefer closed, they're gonna be mainly used on journeys so I'd prefer sound isolation
>Comfort level
As long as they aren't uncomfortable I'm cool
>Sound signature
Not particularly bothered, I listen to a huge range of music
>Past headphones
Sennheiser CX 200G's just died, rip :(

I need a decent portable pair to carry around, sick of in ears being so flimsy

>>59404421
Momentums have a metal band and I'm loving it, durable as fuck (which cannot be said for the wires or pads, but those are thankfully easily replaceable)

How do I know if I'm listening to loud?

>>59404868
Momentums look neat and pretty sleek compared to most monstrous over-ears. Also the sound in in-ear stuff is so terrible that I cannot bring myself to ever consider them as anything but a spare in case I forget my headphones or they break down for some reason, so I disagree about using them in public. If you're in an environment where you wouldn't use big headphones, you're probably not supposed to use any headphones at all.

>>59405451
Tinnitus.

>>59404868
I rock the Creative Aurvana Live in public, who cares about how you look?
I need muh soundz.

>>59405451
You start by saying 'too'

After that just fucking listen at a volume that you like. I'm guessing you're worrying about damaging your hearing. Everyone is different, I ruined my ears with tinnitus because i didn't go to a doctor fast enough for a random infection from ear buds, for sleeping.. It didn't even come from construction work etc, so it's fucking bullshit. I can still hear the general difference between headphones though, so it's not the end of the world.

>>59405570
>Sleeping with headphones.

Never understood why the fuck anyone would do this.

>>59405520
And you think they sound good lmao? chink piston 3 iems probably sounds better than those. Aesthetically, they don't look too bad though tbf.

>>59404868
I saw some guy wearing he-500's at a café once. weirdly enough he didn't seem to be listening to anything cause I was sitting close to him and couldn't hear anything. he did look like an idiot tho

>>59405606
I meant ear plugs for sleeping, because of activity in my house at unusual hours. I could never listen to music and fall asleep. I don't get how that's even possible.

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I need over ear headphones with good isolation that I can wear outdoors.
It has to be able to plug pic related into it so only 3.5mm removable cable.
Budget is 100$

>>59401729
Step one: stop using the supremely bad stock Foobar equalizer. It's defective by design, stop using it.
What I would really suggest for you to do is go grab a parametric EQ, Equalizer APO for instance.

>>59400509
How much for a NAD HP50?

>>59405637
For the price they're pretty good in my opinion, well regarded by reviewers as well.

>>59405715
Somic MM185/Status CB-1

>>59405661
They're fairly good looking imo, but you'd look like a retard walking around with them or using public transport. Maybe he wasn't listening to anything in that period you were next to him. I'm not a coffee guy, I'm assuming normies spend fucking hours sitting in starbucks etc.

>>59405753
Fair enough, but if you mostly care about sound then you should be using much better headphones than those. To be fair though, you might have a completely different budget and outlook on headphones.

>>59402938
What makes them better?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-MDR-ZX660AP-Lightweight-Headphone-Smartphone/dp/B00U5WUOWW/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics-accessories&ie=UTF8&qid=1489529377&sr=1-17&keywords=headphones
Thoughts on these? Budget is about 40 pounds and I need a semi-portable pair

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I've had these headphones for probably a year and it wasn't until now that the cord started to do this. Whenever I had headphones that did this I would suspend it in the air and have it unravel itself for a few minutes but this time it almost seems to be permanent and I have no idea why.
Is there anything I can do to undo this? Was thinking about wrapping the whole thing in duct tape no matter how ugly it looks because I'm just that desperate. Right now I have about 7 inches of usable cord that isn't tangled up like this.
I just pulled a random image from Google btw pictured isn't exactly what I have but it's very similar.

>>59406147
Cloth cables are a gift from God. Never have this problem anymore.

>>59398469
You would have to take it apart and solder wires to the speakers.

>>59401418
>ANC
I have Sony MDR-10R Noise canceling headphones, and when you turn ANC on there is a noticeable hiss in the background. Without any noise canceling, the head phones have good isolation against high frequency sounds, but little to none against low frequencies (it uses ANC to get rid of them). Also sometimes ANC can 'amplify' background sounds which is annoying.

But then again for $1500, AK should be using much more refined tech that no longer has those problems.

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I have a video file that both has untouched RAW 2.0 and 5.1 audio, when I play the 5.1 audio it clearly sounds louder and higher pitched while the 2.0 sound lower pitched and lower sound. I am using a hifi 2050 headphone. Which audio setting should I go for?

>>59403948
SPH9500 if where you want to use them is dead quiet.
M40X if you want isolation, and might want to take your headphones with you somewhere.

>>59406132
They don't look as goofy and have a slider that lets you choose how much bass you want while still sharing the same general sound signature. Fully closed bass ports for the least bass and fully open for NigBass with two more ports for somewhere in between.

>>59406352
Also why is there a different in audio?

>>59405707
you now have me worried anon. I sleep with earphones on all the time.

Is the hyperx cloud 2 a good headset?

OK guys my budget is $4.50 and i need a good quality over-ear, good sound signature, super comfortable and removable cable.

>>59406352
This is entirely dependent on how the mastering for each track was done. Your video player should have no trouble converting between each track so just go with the one that sounds the best.

>>59406352
>Which audio setting should I go for?
Whichever. I'd prefer the 2.0 as you are using stereo setup.
>Also why is there a different in audio?
Software is downmixing that 5.1 channel audio track into two channels and the result of this is different than the original production versions for both channels.

>>59406546
>$4.50

That's too out of our league, anon. Try visiting /csg/.

>>59406577
alright thanks, I'll choose the 2.0 option then

So I'm building a new desktop and I need some headphones. Should I get one with a microphone or just buy a seperate microphone?

>>59406352
If you didn't understand.. 2.0 is for audio systems that use two speakers (or a pair of headphones).

5.1 is for a home theater setup, which utilize five speakers and one subwoofer.

>>59406609
Lol>>59406546
Not doable.

>>59406624
If you going to be using the microphone for anything other than gayming, then yes. Otherwise you can get the Vmoda inline mic if your headphones have a standard 3.5mm removable cable.

>>59406482
You're fine m8. If you can sleep whilst listening to music, that's a bonus.

I got tinnitus from wearing ear plugs for sleeping. and it's because I didn't go to the doctor quick enough like a retard. Don't worry about it.

>>59406732
Nah i don't listen to music, I listen to asmr to help me sleep

>>59406546
Best closest thing to your budget is VE Monk+

>>59406813
Please explain what that is. I have no idea and I'm really struggling myself to STAY asleep these days. It's fucking killing me on every level.

>>59406317
>But then again for $1500, AK should be using much more refined tech that no longer has those problems.
There's two type of circuits when it comes to ANC: digital and analog. Analog solutions are more expensive and they work better. But they're much harder to get right. Digital is what's inside of most of the cheaper ANC phones. They are not as good and produce lots of sound artifacts and they also make some people dizzy.

N90Q uses analog ANC. Wish I could find the teardown of them because I'm really interested in what chipsets they have inside of them. I'd love to know what chip they use for ANC and DSP. If anyone knows what they use, please reply to this post.

>>59406955
>get off the computer 1 hour before sleep
>install flux to reduce blue light exposure
>exercise
>no caffeine 2 hours before sleep
>Make going to be a routine/set time
>don't eat just before going to sleep
>go to the toilet before going to sleep
>drink some water to stay hydrated
>Have a bottle a water next to bed
>Make sure your room is as dark as possible
>Make sure room temperature is constant
>Use eyepads/eye cover if you can't
>Use earphones to play rain noises.

>Budget 75.00$
>Location U.S.
>Source PC
>Type of headphone IEM
>Open or closed
>Comfort level hella comfortable
>Sound signature
>Past headphones

>>59406728
I will be using the mic for just talking to friends online, nothing too fancy. Would prefer something more or less quality so people can hear me.

>>59407218
Hmm, maybe I will build one to see if it's any good.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Analog-Noise-Cancelling-Headphones/

http://www.edn.com/design/systems-design/4404818/Teardown--Analog-rules-over-digital-in-noise-canceling-headphones

>>59407270
I try to watch a film before i sleep (usually kino, I'm talking 2 hours on average)

I literally do nearly everything on your list.

DT70p or DT770?

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>>59407355
VModa Boom pro + shp9500

>>59407389
nah don't do this. While you might sometimes fall asleep while watching films, it is not good for your sleep cycle. You're better off reading a book until you get so drowsy that you keep reading the same paragraph.

$15
Australia
Zuk Z2
IEMs


Just something cheap for portable use

>>59407492
I've tried the reading meme too and it doesn't fucking help me. I enjoy reading, but it doesn't actually help me like people recommend.

What are the IEM equivalents (in price/quality ratio) of the superlux hd668b?

>>59407538
I have an old ipod full of silly prank calls. It's the only thing that puts me to sleep. I can now fall asleep after 10 min.

>>59407538
Do you commit to going to sleep at a specific time? I forced myself to start going to sleep at 12am ( before i was going to sleep any time between 1-4am), and I am slowly getting myself to go to sleep at 10am.

>>59407615
try >>>/g/csg for cheap shit. they have a list there.

>>59407615
kz ate

>>59407218
>Analog solutions are more expensive and they work better.
Really. Show me.

is 569 basically same as 598 Cs

>>59407631
>>59407650
Thanks anons

What do you guys think about Creative Aurava Live! ?

>>59407890
>Creative Labs

dms3tv is livestreaming on twitch guys!!!!!

what do you guys know about these? I am a lil' hype ngl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHVkXtEQRJ0

>>59407970
>paying $200 for random chinkshit
>earbuds

Only chinkshit you should be paying that many shekels for is hifiman

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>>59407930
>>59407970
Fuck off with your shilling

>>59407930
>>59407970
why are you spamming this shit? Want a ban? Mods will gladly oblige. Fuck off.

>>59392422
Except when the motherboard has a headphone amp, but it's only usable in the front panel connector.

ASUS Z97M-Plus.

>>59408008
>Mods banning two posts worth of shilling

>>59408031
you look like a faggot. kys you stupid waste of life.
ps: kek'd at your ear gauges... ahahah... what a fucking retard. you have an IQ of 80.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yen8xGc6t_o
this is u btw

>>59408031
dude isnt shilling, they were just some headphones i was interested in and I wanted to show someone who i thought was a good reviewer...

>>59408062
how does he get away with it?

>>59408062
this is incredible

>>59408050
>Threatening to call the mods over two posts

What? He's a fucking shill, but no one in 4chan is going to get banned over two shill posts.

>>59408068
>Dubstep intro
>Faggy thumbnails

Find a better reviewer, anon.

>>59408120
he's just good dont be a hater

>>59408145
>>59408145
>>59408145

New thread.