/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>59360815
Anime headphone girls have been a thing longer than you've been able to ejaculate. Rip the headfi thread.

Posting this here because this guy sounds like he knows his shit and i hope he responds

>>59360603
Nothing is in stock on the website, they state that most everything is ordered on demand. Most non-amazon stores work like this. When you buy an SSD from Dell it's western digital that is shipping it to you.
I don't know. Anyway, back to my original post.
You were able to tell me the frequency range that I like and it's relation to the sound of the dt990, which is great, thanks. What headphones do you think emphasize that sound the most? You kind of went on a bit of a tangent saying that the energy is in 1-4khz and then talked about the common 9-10khz peak.

I understand there is a TON of other things beside the frequency response though. Surely there must be a few headphones that excel at delivering that range.

>>59360815
Sounds like you're just mad anime girls don't wear your headphones.

>>59360896
I would pay such good money to have a qt get the scent of her hair on my headphones

Does anyone have an opinion about the Lindy Premium Hi-Fi headphones?
They look like Brainwavz HM5 but half the price for me at 80€.
I just want well isolating headphones that make me forget about my surroundings irl with decent sound.

>>59361001
She's a smoker.

It'd just make them smell of ashtrays.

Are there portable foldable headphones with the same levels of comfy and sound as the Beyerdynamic DT250?

>>59361631
M40X with DT250 Pads

Hey /hpg/, I'm looking for a pair of earbuds. Here's my filled template:

>Budget
$25 or less. Fine with going to $30 for a really good deal. $30 is absolute hard limit
>Location
United States
>Source
Phone and MP3 player
>Type of headphone
Earbuds or IEMs (I don't really know the difference, just want something small)
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
Pretty important, but OK with less comfortable earbuds for better sound quality.
>Sound signature
Anything that isn't shitty, to be honest
>Past headphones
N/A

I would appreciate any suggestions

>>59360881
>Anime headphone girls have been a thing longer than you've been able to ejaculate.
I need to save that. 10/10.

>>59361913
Vsonic GR02 Bass Edition

>>59360811
Current headphones: Audio Technica ATH-M35, just died.

Closed: Absolute must. Paper-thin walls.

Comfort > Sound quality:
willing to sacrifice a bit of sound quality for comfort as I'll be sleeping with them. Though the ATH-M35 was uncomfortable and I've been sleeping fine with them, I'd prefer something comfortable for once.

Will be plugging them into my PC.

Price:
Preferrably $200 and below, but not terribly important. Budget is $400 max.

Currently looking at:
Sennheiser HD 380 Pro ~$150
Bose Quiet Comfort 25 ~$300
Bose Quiet Comfort 35 ~$350

What would you recommend?

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>>59360811
>4 anime ops in a row

Should I go with the Brainwavz HM5 or M40X for running/gym/cycling headphones? I'm leaning towards the M40X because they have the removable cord but I've heard that the HM5 are more comfortable.

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Internet FLAC Radio https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

There's real kawaii shit playing

>>59362778
Neither. You don't want over ears for gym/running as you get sweaty, and isolation whilst cycling both puts you at danger, and makes you a danger to others.

Just get some good IEMs. Dont use anything other than earbuds/on ears/over ears for cycling.

>>59362450
anime website

>>59363343
Nope, I'm not getting IEMs. I already have them and the sound and comfort sucks ass compared to proper headphones. Sweat isn't an issue and when I cycle I leave one ear uncovered if I'm in a crowded place, or just take them off completely.

>>59362778
get some quality open headphones and sit at home instead

Guys, MEE Audio P1's, or Audiofly AF120 for my next IEM?
I run a JDS Labs C5D as my DAC/amp and it's slightly on the bright side, if that helps.

>>59363497
Already have my AKG K712 but I'm not exactly going to take them outside

>>59363426
"Wrong."

Any of you guys know of a completely uncoloured closed planar? Was thinking of the PM-3 because I like me some over ear.

>>59363891
>completely uncoloured closed planar
doesn't exist.

PM3 would be the closest, but is quite warm and has fairly significant roll off in the highs

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Re-posting this again in hopes of some help.

Can someone help me decide on my next headphone because I am a poorfag and I dont want to make the wrong pick.
I am looking for IN-EAR headphones around 100$ budget, what I require is the following:

1-That they do not fall out of my ear when I walk or move around (secure fit), and that they isolate decent at least.
2-Really comfortable, the type that you can wear for hours and not hurt your ears or give you headache or fatigue.
3-I dont mind if the headphones are durable, they will be tossed around between my bag and pockets, i am generally careful with my things but I want it to at least last 1 year.
4-As for sound, I am no expert but I listen to ALL sorts of music genres, I am not familiar with the terms yet but I want something fun basically with some bass, but not overkill, I dont want to ruin the enjoyment of the less bassy music.

after some research this is what I found :

~ shure se215 (Top pick so far)
~ RHA MA750 (these also seem to tick everything but I read they are very balanced and natural, not that this is a bad thing but again I dont mind some bass)
~ 1 moretriple driver (Second pick, a lot of people have been talking about these lately, their sound is superior to top two picks ? ??)
~Sennhiser momnunemt in ear (mixed reviews about this one, also build quality worries me)

`also considering these too but read they are bass light and aim for a clear signature.
~HiFiMAN RE-400
~Etymotic Research hf5

What does /hpg/ think ? I am open to any other suggestions but I need to buy these tomorrow so would love some help here, also source is my smartphone sony xperia z3 compact.

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>>59363908

>>59363908
you're using the word poorfag wrong buddy

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Hello /hpg/ i just came today to show you my new purchase, it may be the most worth

>>59363903
Fak, is there anything else that would be close too?

>>59363891
No such thing but MrSpeakers Ether is quite decent.

>>59363924
I bought these a few months ago and they're fucking DOGSHIT. Piston 3's are ten times better and a third of the price.

>>59364033
Those new Monoprice M560 potentially, though I haven't heard them. Hifiman also make a closed planar I think. Other than that, there are very few closed planars. There are some T50RP mods that get quite close to neutral. Talos and Mayflower both offer some.

Some vintage orthos might be an option too.

Can someone give me some better info between K612,DT880's, Fidelio X2's, K712 and hd598se?
Which of these would be better suited for listening to music, watching movies, and playing video games, in that order.

>>59361010
>They look like Brainwavz HM5
That's because they're the same OEM model. Accessories can differ.

>>59363908
RE-400 isn't exactly bass light, unless you screw up the fit or just really want a lot of bass. It has a downward tilt and some general bass boost to it. HF5 is slightly midbassy and but far less than the other sets mentioned. Has a less general downward tilt than RE400, above 5kHz or so.

The Senn/1More/RHA/Shure sets are all bass heavy.
MA750 highs are more spiky, maybe even a bit of V-shape, Momentum's upper-midrange takes a hard plunge (the Sennheiser in-ear veil).
The 1More Triple and SE215 would best be called bassy, SE215 has more subbass, the Triple puts emphasis higher up, closer to 100 Hz or so.

As far as isolation is considered, the real outlier is the 1More, which is too heavily vented to isolate decently. The Etys should isolate best, followed by the Shures and the rest. Depending on the eartips used and the fit, the actual isolation will vary a bit.

SE215 has a serious advantage of removable cables with a popular connector, but not everyone likes the MMCX style.
RE400 build is very poor, thin wires lacking reinforcement at strain points.
MA750 build is made of steel, but the earpieces weight quite a bit much for it. Housings can still crack


>>59360881
>there is a TON of other things beside the frequency response though.
The frequency response (actually the magnitude response) generally dominates over everything else.
There are other things such as non-linear distortion, which is kept low on most decently well made sets, and isolation/crosstalk which is generally of minimum significance.

Anyway 1-4 KHz, headphones for that.
I already mentioned the Beyer T90, and possible issues it has.
HD600 can have a little peak around 4-5kHz. It that proves bothersome, there's the HD650. That usually tends to be more recessed in the treble range than the HD600 already was, and the 100-300 Hz boost they have can be an issue in itself.
Cont.

>>59364452
>K612
Mostly neutral with slightly peaky treble. Great spatial imaging. Headband has some comfort issues but can be remedied very easily.

>DT880's
MASSIVE treble peak. Midbassy. Comfy and standard great Beyer build. Decent spatial imaging.

>Fidelio X2's,
Midbass city. Quite dark, but almost not because of the peaky treble. Fairly wide imaging but not very 'complex'. Very comfy.

>K712
X2's but with slightly less midbass, shallower pads, comfier headband, and are a lot lighter. Treble is more peaky. than X2s. Spatial imaging nearly on par with K612.

>hd598se
Warm. Slightly veiled treble. Low end roll off too. Average spatial imaging.

>Which of these would be better suited for listening to music, watching movies, and playing video games, in that order.
Entirely depends on your tastes and goals.

I'd take K612 over all of the others for all of those purposes, other than maybe watching films. For films [action at least] you want a lot of low end rumble and kick. X2's or K712 would be the best in that case, though still are fairly mediocre for film. Nothing compares to speakers. Ever.

Ill simplify it a bit. If you want neutral, K612. If you want warm, 598, if you want warm with more bass, X2/K712/K7XX.

>>59364452
k712's are the best headphones I've ever tried besides the 600+650. They're very detailed and have a good amount of bass, though I found it a little sloppy and overpowering. They're fantastic for music, gaming and movies.In a way they're a less bloated x2 with more detail, and the soundstage is fairly wide too.

I want to by a pair of HD800's, but they look so fucking dumb

>>59364838
They do. Just get 600's.

>>59364851
I already own them

>>59364601
Spatial imaging is soundstage? Also, all those are open correct? How do the m50x compare to them? What does warm, dark, etc. mean?

>>59364698
Could you compare the k612 and k712 from your experience?

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asking again
>recently get pic related(iOS)
>sound cuts out if wire is moved a certain way
>only happens on iPhone and iPad, not on computer
One guy had the same problem, he got another cord and it kept happening. Some suggest it's because of the buttons on the cord screwing it up. What do?

>>59365120
Never tried the 612 before sorry. I've heard it's similar to the 702 and if that's the case then it's a very good, wide, detailed headphone. The 712 sounds a bit thin with no real weight behind it. The k712 doesn't have that problem at all. The pads are also fucking god tier (memory foam)

>>59365120
>>59365227
Sorry I meant to say that the 702 sounds a bit thin with no weight behind it.

>>59365120
>Could you compare the k612 and k712 from your experience?
They're basically the same expect the bass is better on the K712 and the treble is less harsh on the K612. I prefer the K612.

>>59365227
>>59365257
>>59365529
Do you need an amp for either k612 or k712?

>>59365685
You don't NEED one but you will want one, at least when it comes down to the 702 and k712 so I'm assuming the 612 will be similar. Just get the e10k, that's literally all you need.

>>59365743
Is it worth it though? If I buy k612 and the e10k, that will put me roughly at 200€ total (120-130 headphoenes, 80-90 amp). Are there any headphones that don't need an amp and sound the same/better in the price range?

>>59365796
>Are there any headphones that don't need an amp and sound the same/better in the price range?

To put it bluntly, no. If you're getting your first real pair of headphones you will want to drive them properly. The e10k should be an end game amp for you and will be a good investment in the long run. It's tiny and usb powered so it's perfect. I used to use mine with k712's, x2's 702's etc and now with my hd600's. You shouldn't ever need to upgrade it. Just buy one straight away with the headphones if you can afford it.

Anybody have more of a list of options/selections for microphones? I was considering replacing my Sony ECMCS3 because it picks up a lot of background noises, I was looking at the Boompro and Modmic 5, was leaning towards the latter, but seems like at that price range there might be some more options for microphones in general, is there any other I should consider that might be of better quality? Thanks.

>>59365743
the e10k won't make much difference if you get the k612, and the build quality can be shoddy. start with the phones and then decide if you really need an amp

>>59366042
Amps don't make a huge difference as it is but when you get to a certain point in price, you take whatever difference you can get. He will end up coming across many songs where he will wish he could add more volume. That alone is a good reason to get a cheap amp, never mind the slight quality difference.

>>59366042
Build quality of the headphones or amp?
>>59366068
What do you mean by more volume, as in loundess?

>>59366561
Yeah. Using on board audio has it's limits, as do amps. But the e10k can go much louder than on board.

>>59366561
>Build quality of the headphones or amp?
both are low tier china crap, but i was thinking of the amp mostly

>>59366652
How much loudness are we talking here? By comparison, if I put the volume on my headphones all the way to the max I pretty much don't need speakers.
>>59366646
Well, what would you recommend?

>>59366678
The e10k, like I already said. It's the cheapest quality amp out there and it performs exactly the same as much more expensive amps like the odac for example. The odac can go even louder, but that's pointless because you don't need anymore power than what the e10k gives.

>>59366705
Okay, but are the headphones worth it? I can get the 612 for 120€. Can I do better in that price range? Does the quality of the closed hd598 compare to k612?

>>59364568
Thank you for the detailed answer, I think i was right, I will go for the shure, but which one the limited edition or the normal one?

>>59367049
Never tried the hd698 before but if they're closed there's a high chance they will sound worse than the k612s. Are the 702's near the same price? if so I'd recommend those, I'm guessing the k712 costs quite a lot more? if not I'd recommend getting that over everything else. If the k612 is clearly cheaper than the rest then you should give them a go. Buy from amazon if you can since you can retrn things easily, as long as amazon is the actual seller and not by a third party.

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Hey /hpg/, why does Sennheiser use chink shit quality plastic on their HD 5X0 and HD 6X0 headphones?

>>59367120
k702 are 200, k712 245.
k612 with the amp would be 200.
Which should I pick?

>>59367322
First of all. Are you someone who NEEDS heavy bass? if that's the case then you should get the k712 and ignore the others. But you would still want the amp. If that's not the case then you should get the 612 and the amp. What are the best headphones you've ever tried?

>>59367452
Not really, I don't generally listen to music with deep bass. All my headphones up until now have been 10-20€ trash.

>>59367510
just get the k612, it's the safest bet

>>59367510
Get the k612 and the e10k then m8. You should fucking love it.

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My friend works with concrete and he came up to me one day and drew me this.

>"Hey anon, you are good with tech and electronics. I need a headset that can cover my ears but also give me a mic to talk with when taking calls from my phone. Does this exist? I'm afraid to order online, so if it can be bought here in town it would be preferred."
>Price?
>"I don't how much this stuff is worth, as long as it isn't over $100 it should be fine."

He is in his 40's and lived his life in the forests of Michigan shooting rabbits with a .22 and riding motorcycles to escape his shitty family, so he knows nothing about headphones.

What do I tell him?

>>59360811
Anime OP best OP :^)
>>59362267
DT770 80 ohm.
>>59361913
HJE120.
>>59362778
HM5 would look goofy af when cycling, I suppose M40X.
>>59363627
>I run a JDS Labs C5D as my DAC/amp and it's slightly on the bright side, if that helps.
kek'd
>>59363891
PM3 is the closest.
>>59363908
M6 PRO. SE215 sounds like listening to music underwater.
>>59363952
wtf
>>59364452
It's completely subjective but here's a quick rundown:

K612/DT880 - bright
X2/K712 - bassy
HD598 - neutral/warm
>>59364601
Never really found the K612 neutral desu.
>>59364838
HD800 + EQ.
>>59367298
This has been fixed for years. Try harder.

>>59368028
>I'm afraid to order online, so if it can be bought here in town it would be preferred
heh i'm the opposite

are these any good?

Audio-Technica ATH-AVC500

>>59368051
>K612/DT880 - bright
>X2/K712 - bassy
naw k712 are brighter than k612

>>59368028
>concrete
Does he need to block external noise?

Why not use muffs and an in ear headset?

>>59368120
I would disagree.

>>59363952
I know they're supposed to be headphones with a little bow on the end, but someone in design REALLY fucked up.

>>59368147
you disagree wrong

>>59368123
He wants to listen to music as well as hear the people he is taking calls from, so it can't just be muffs. He does want it to be good at blocking noise, but keep in mind he can't technology very well, so setting up a microphone separate from the headphone jack on his phone might be too much for him.

>>59367298
We don't call them Snappheiser for nothing.

>>59368265
I would tell him to look into the headsets made for airplane pilots, as those are made for good sound isolation and communication (I'm assuming these are his top priorities over music).

The downside is that a lot of those headsets are very mid-centric, so don't expect much (if any) bass or treble extension when listening to music, especially being the drivers may be surrounded by a thick piece of sound deadening foam, like what you'd see inside regular safety ear muffs.

Those headsets usually terminate into seperate mic and headphone 3.5mm terminals, but you can get an adapter that terminates into a TRRS terminal for phones.

>>59367548
>>59367567
>>59368051
So best bet would be k612+ e10k, correct? Either that or hd598 se, but no amp, since they cost the same here.

>>59368824
Yes. Get the k612 and the e10k. You will most likely love it. The only thing I could say is that you shouldn't expect miracles. A lot of people get disappointed when they first switch to high end gear because they expect a massive difference. most of the differences in high end gear are relatively small, but worth it.

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r8 my portable setup no b8 m8 b str8 no h8
Fiio X3ii and RHA MA750i (they were about 50 bucks cheaper than the regular version for some reason)

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Do the MDR 1000x actually have the drivers of ultra premium $250 Sony cans?

>>59368207
I owned K612, it was too bright around 7kHz for my liking, graphs seem to be conflicting on the internet.

Now I use EQ'd HD800 and ER4SR.

>>59370120
>Now I use EQ'd HD800 and ER4SR.
Basically me, except I have ER-4PT which to EQ. Master race life.

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http://usbdisruptor.com/dirty-usb-power/

Is this just snake oil?

>>59370120
What's ER4SR? an EQ Preset ?

>>59370142
I used to be a massive HD600 shill but the HD800's comfort, consistency, construction, cable build quality and weight distribution really can't be beat.

Just need dat EQ.

>>59370262
http://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/er4-new.html

An ear-dildo.

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Is there anything like the Koss KSC75 but that won't give out after four months?
I have bought three different pairs for just general computer use. That way I can have one headphone on and one, usually, just hanging off my shirt so I can hear things going on around the house.

They are absolutely perfect for me but get rather expensive when you have to buy multiple a year.

>>59370346
These headphones have a lifetime warranty, no?

>>59370323
Oh those fucking things. I'd love to try them but I'd never pay that for iems unless I was rich. Mental.

>>59370365
Yeah but you have to send them the headphones and pay for shipping back.
After all that it's only a few dollars more to buy a new pair, and you'll get them a lot faster.

>>59370215
Does your setup generate audible static, clipping or distortion?

If you're not sure, or say no, then you don't need whatever someone is selling.

>>59370537
How would we know the difference between distortion or no distortion if our setups have always had some level of distortion?

>>59370608
Because things like instruments and vocals that can be heard live will have an obvious difference when played on a system which has distortion issues. You don't have to have a reference system if you can compare to live experience.

>Budget : 150.00 or lower (maple bucks)
>Location : Canada
>Source : phone/Xbox one/ps4
>Type of headphone : full-size.
>Open or closed : closed but indifferent
>Comfort level : indifferent, wear for an hour or two
>Sound signature :
>Past headphones : set of 60.00 panisonic full size headphones

Bonus : the more metal in the construction and heavy duty the better. Also the closer they look to something that came out of WW1/2 the better. Also Bluetooth if possible.

>>59370898
mdrv6 or mdr7506

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>>59370215

What's a good pair of IEMs with a removable cable around $100?

I've mainly bought $25~ IEMs but I want to buy a nicer one. The only problem is I frequently break the cable (Usually the cable breaks after a year of daily use), so I don't feel like spending a lot on a pair of IEMs without a replaceable cable.

>>59370608
Distortion meant there is obvious and very objectionable, caused by amplifier overloading(clipping) under high current draw. You won't miss that. On their own modern electronics pretty much entirely operate at distortion levels so low for them to be completely inaudible.

>>59370969
There's plenty of options if you want to step into chinkshit territory, but a lot of them have problems directly at the connector so even replacing the cable doesn't fix the issue. Of course, being cheap chink shit with zero QC, your mileage may vary. Prices range from 10-40 bucks on these usually depending on model and where you buy them.
Other option is the Shure SE215. They have a darkish sound with emphasis on bass if you're into that. Easily replaceable cable, and you can even get some aftermarkets with inline. These are pretty nice desu, just make sure you're buying from a reputable seller because there's a shitload of fakes for these, and some are pretty good fakes. I'd suggest buying from Amazon making sure they're shipped and sold by Amazon.
The MEE M6 Pro also have replaceable cable. The cool thing about these is that MEE will sell you literally anything. If you step over the right IEM and break it they will sell you just the right side for like 15 bucks. These are bright and a lot of people have problems with these because of it.
The RHA MA750 don't have a replaceable cable but have a three years warranty and from what I've seen RHA are pretty cool when it comes to warranty replacements, and will usually ship you a new pair even before your current one fails, like for example if the cable is peeling off and exposing the wiring somewhere. These are less bassy than the Shures, but they don't feel lacking or overly bright. Kind of a middle point.

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>>59364838
/r/anime_irl

>>59367095
215 Ltd is purportedly bassier than the already bassy SE215. Claims enhanced bass extension, but the SE215 has absolutely no issue with this at all.

>>59360881
K612 has the 2-2.5 KHz bump like the 702 and 712, but is probably smoother overall, and then...I'm having a recollection failure.

>>59370215
Oh, boy.
Is the "waveform" we see interpolated like a sinc/tapered sinc, or a linear sample interpolation.

What are the go to studio monitors in the $300 or less range for general use and recording and mixing music? I currently have the Mackie CR3's which are good for the price but I want something a bit beefier when my budget allows for it. The JBL LSR305 is getting a lot of recommendations, are they worth going for?

>>59370304
HD800 or HD800s?

>>59371377
they're memes but the lsr305 can't be beat at that price

>>59371393
Vanilla.
>>59371368
>K612 has the 2-2.5 KHz bump like the 702 and 712, but is probably smoother overall, and then...I'm having a recollection failure.
I can't remember much about it other than it being bright. Maybe I'll buy another just to revisit it.

>>59370916

The second one seems nearly perfect. Is there any way to get it in Bluetooth or with a cord less then 10 feet long?

>>59371420
Which of them is vanilla? -_-

>>59363908
I have the triple drivers. I like em as they give me the V sound I need for EDM and all that jazz, but without compromising mids (outside of EDM I listen to rock with large vocals emphasis)

As for comfort, you have the flexibility of buying your own tips to fit your needs so that's hardly a moot point, the only catch is secure as the cable thickness and the inline controls are on the heavy side

>>59365131
what does the connector look like? it sounds to me as though the jack won't connect fully - I have the same issue with the included 3.5mm adapter for my fostex on just one smartphone

>>59371454
Solder the wire to have 3.5mm female so it's detachable and plug in a bluetooth reciever.

>>59371457
The one without S.

Sennheiser HD 800

>>59371377
The only loudspeakers in that budget I could recommend so yes.

So i'm pretty new to headphones but I have a question regarding some m40x I just received.

Is it normal for there to be an imbalance in sound that's slightly noticeable?

I can balance it digitally using my V20's quad-dac settings so that it sounds fairly centered, but I was just curious whether or not this was normal.

I just bought a pair of K712 and they legit sound worse than my $20 iPhone EarPoos. Bass sounds like shit, no mids, and sound is tinny af.
Would an amp fix this? Or should I just return them?

>>59371780
What did you test it with? It's normal for a stereo music to be mastered off center in all other areas but vocals. Headphone channel matching that poor is not too rare but something I wouldn't tolerate.

>>59371826
>Would an amp fix this?
No or at least unlikely. But try another device or two to test them with in order to make sure.

>>59371075
Thanks for this, I'll look into the three options.

>>59371828
Tested with a podcast and music both instrumental and with vocals on. Vocals seemed off center just barely until I balanced it, same issue with the podcast and music.

It's not a huge issue since I'm only ever using it with my V20 which can balance it digitally which makes them sound fine, however I did get a good price and a good warranty for them just in case there is something wrong with the wiring. I just wanted to ask here if it was unusual before I start thinking about sending them back.

>>59371943
It tells of poor quality control. Channel matching is very trivial thing to do in production.

As you tested them with vocals and they seem off center and as you probably didn't hear the same off center thing on your old pair of whatever, it's likely a poor unit.

https://diyaudioheaven.wordpress.com/headphones/measurements/audio-technica/ath-m40x/
http://www.rtings.com/headphones/reviews/audio-technica/ath-m40x
http://goldenears.net/board/GR_Headphones/5705574

DIY Audio Heaven there measured a unit with significant channel imbalance.

>>59371853
Okay, I guess I'll return them then. What's some headphones with clear sound and good mids?

>>59372111
>What's some headphones with clear sound and good mids?
Plenty of people could answer K712 to that. Since you found them to be very much the opposite, you need to be more specific. Are the EarPods something you liked? Any other headphones you have used, liked and more importantly why?

>>59372064
Thanks alot for the info, I suppose I'll get into contact with the manufacturer then and see if I can get a new pair. Like you said, even if I can balance it out the fact is still intolerable especially since I want these to last me for some time.

I appreciate the help, thanks!

What model of Skullcandy head phones would be good to listen to My Chemical Romance's Welcome To The Black Parade over and over again?

>>59372230
>Skull Candy
>My Chemical Romance
Nothing would sound good.

>>59372230
The one with bullets and a bottle opener.

>>59372162
I like the K612. Not too much bass, present vocals, clear but relatively smooth highs. Thought the K712 would be similar but better. The build quality of them sucks tho

>>59372111
HD 650. You should use them with an amp.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD650.pdf

The 600 is worth looking into as well if you prefer a more neutral sound, though I personally prefer the 650.

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf

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Should I buy this Xiaomi headphones? They are on sale on gearbest or should I buy the hybrid headphones?
Thanks

>>59360811
This is my last call to the 'hd600 bass guy' that gave me the code to add to my APO Equalizer. I accidentally deleted it a couple of weeks ago.. If you're out there, please give me that slight bass boost again.

>>59373136
It's been weeks right?
You should easily been able to experiment and figure this out by now desu.

Just start boosting bass frequencies until you find what you like.

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>>59373301
This.
Equilaizer APO + Peace (one third octave smoothed preset) and mess with it. Here's a quick reference graph.

>>59373136
Is it not on the archive?

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>two frequency response measurements of the same headphone have vastly different results

Which one should I trust then?

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>>59371572
>Pic related
Its the standard Urbanite iOS compatible cord
I forget where but someone suggested that it has to do with the control buttons on the cord that screws it up. This would lead me to get a different cord without it

>>59373563
The one that validates your opinion

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My AKG K712s arrived today, don't have a DAC/AMP yet but they seem to be working fine with my motherboard. Do I even need to get a DAC/AMP if my motherboard can power them? Will it improve the sound?

They do sound a little tinny, and I've just come from MDR-V6s which are also neutral

>>59365120
>Spatial imaging is soundstage?
Somewhat. Spatial imaging is how the headphone presents sound in a mental environment. Soundstage and imaging are used as misnomers half the time anyway, and often interchangeably.

>Also, all those are open correct?
Correct.

>How do the m50x compare to them?
Like shit. M50x only has going for it is more sub-bass due to them being closed.

>What does warm, dark, etc. mean?
Read this.
http://www.head-fi.org/a/describing-sound-a-glossary
Tons of bullshit in it though, so ignore half of it.

>>59368051
>Never really found the K612 neutral desu.
Closest thing AKG has ever made to neutral, and Its not far off HD600's either. Its all relative. No headphone has ever been 'neutral' though in my opinion.

>>59373925
https://www.audiobot9000.com/match/akg/k-712-pro/with/schiit/fulla-2

Fulla2 yields 115dB, so I wouldn't expect much awesomeness from onboard.

>>59373925
An external dac/amp would be a good idea if you want to get the most out of them. If you're on a budget, then the Schiit Fulla 2 is a good bang for your buck at $99. I recommend the Audio-gd NFB-11 if you can afford it. It costs a bit more than a Schiit Stack would, but it's worth it.

>>59373925
>Do I even need to get a DAC/AMP if my motherboard can power them?
They're fine if they reach loud enough.

>>59374770
>>59374823
>tfw Australian so Schiit products aren't an option

>>59373925
>Do I even need to get a DAC/AMP if my motherboard can power them?
no
>Will it improve the sound?
no

I don't quite know where to ask this so why not here is this is tech and somewhat related to headphones.

I am learning to sing so I kind of need to buy a microphone. I have a gaming head set but it is less than adequate for what I need it for. I am looking to spend around 50 bucks so I am thinking the blue snowball ice. I already have a m50x coming in the mail soon so I just really need a mic. I am not going to need anything really killer yet.


I also need a program to tell me what pitch I am at while I am recording, has pretty fast play back and ideally would be able to play a note to sing. I do have a keyboard though.

>>59373563
the measurements, measurements never lie. dont fall for audiofool voodoo mumble jumble

For $200 or less, what are the most comfortable headphones I could buy? Full sized, not iem's.

>>59363343
What about something like this?

http://bgr.com/2017/02/27/sony-xperia-ear-open-style-concept/

>>59375817
Would piss me off if I spent money on a DAC/AMP and noticed no difference

>>59375855
HD558/598's are pretty comfy.

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What;s your hearing like, /hpg/? It's pointless buying expensive cans if your hearing's total shit.

http://hearingtest.online/

No cheating (no point... be honest with yourself).

Here's mine. I;m male, 26, been to a lot of clubs and concerts. Honestly, I thought it'd be a lot worse.

PS: When doing that test, make sure you use headphones and you adjust your sound level properly. Don't adjust it too loud... it will invalidate the result.

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>>59376337
27 y/o male. Never go to clubs/parties, though do listen to music for eight hours a day or longer, and have played music instruments all of my life, and are a hobbyist music producer.

8k dip might be due to my tinnitus that i have from a fucked period of multiple infections.

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>>59376337
tfw deaf bitch boi

>>59376530
i cant tell if youre so advanced you can hear even better than the graph allows or youre so deaf you dropped off the graph

screenshot it tho

>>59376337
I find it odd that the samples arent constant tones. Once I could hear the tone and what interval it was playing at, I could usually go back down a level and hear it.

Too bad my room has my computer fan, I dont think i got accurate results

>>59376548
Fuck off
>>59376559
>Too lazy to crop

https://hearingtest.online/myAudiogram.php?s=nB_250_30nB_500_40nB_1000_40nB_2000_40nB_4000_20nB_8000_15&d=13+Mar+2017

>>59375855
Sony MDR-V6 / MDR-7506

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>>59376337
What does that dip at 4k means? I seriously can't hear it unless I drop down 3 rows compared to 8k

>>59376616
>Too bad my room has my computer fan, I dont think i got accurate results
You just have a lot of hearing damage. Shit sucks... I know.

>>59376633
>What does that dip at 4k means? I seriously can't hear it unless I drop down 3 rows compared to 8k
You suffered some hearing damage in that area. Or it could be genetic.

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After spending time on calibration and repeating the rubbing hands thing and comparing the sounds, this is the result I got.

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>>59376337
28/M. Used to go to clubs and parties rather often during my high school and college days, though I rarely went to concerts.

>>59376759
>28/M.
you clearly calibrated it wrong. No way a male of that age could hear that well in 8K range.

>>59376810
I spent about five minutes getting it as close to possible to the reference hand rubbing sound.

8k was definitely the easiest sound to hear.

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>>59376337
21/m, never really went to concerts or listened to music too loudly.

>>59375802
http://schiit.com/faq/international

>>59376649
at least someone understands

>>59375855
BEYERDYNAMIC DT250

>>59377035
Their only distributor in Aus wants 200AUD for them, I'd rather get a FiiO E10K for half the price.

>>59377035
> 200 kangaroo dollars for a schiit fulla
ain't that crikey m8

>Budget
$600 flexible
>Location
Philippines
>Source
Phone/PC. Home use
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfortable would be nice, but if there are better alternatives to sacrifice it, it's fine.
>Past headphones
Audio Technica ATH-AD700X. They're alright, been using it for more than 4 years already. It's very comfortable, but the sound leakage is real, and I suppose I've been desiring better sound quality lately.

Thanks.

>>59377173
>>59377194
>Their only distributor in Aus wants 200AUD for them
Schiit will ship internationally. Fulla 2 can be had for $162 AUD with shipping included.

Schiit shilling needs to stop.

They're trying to create a hivemind on /g/.

Boycott all Schiit products, buy FiiOs or O2/ODAC or chinkshit.

>>59377572
You could say Schiit schiills need to stop buying schiitty chink schiit.

l^)

>>59377572
That's just how niche brands like schiit operate. Word of mouth is codeword for forum shills.
Not much you can do as schiit shills immediately resort to shitposting when called out.

>>59377572
>Schiit shilling needs to stop
Eh, their cheaper stuff really is pretty great. Jot is a waste of money though, and I haven't used there stupid expensive shit. Though something I don't understand is why every single thing they make is ugly as all fuck. That weird rounded front is so fucking ugly. I re-housed my Magni 2 and love it so much more just for not being a tumor on my desk.

>buy FiiOs
Fulla 2 has more features, but yeah E10k is still better value for raw sound, unless you need the extra power. Fulla 2 does sound a tiny bit better though.
>O2/ODAC
Both are mediocre and stupidly overpriced. ODAC especially. Extremely tinny and bright, especially when combo'd with eachother. O2 is only 'decent' value if you DIY it.

>chinkshit.
Can agree with this one to a fair extent, though Fulla 2/Stack are middlegrounds, and other than AGD there isnt much chink stuff too appealing past the DAC-X6 type shit.
I run a cheapo PCM2704 DAC into a Magni 2 and its pretty tight. I've also got some other TPA $30 chink amp which works pretty damn well too, though the transformer effectively doubles the price. Fuckin mountains of power for such a cheap board. Massdrop also has a fairly cheap alternative amp that uses some TPA chip.

>>59377737
>Extremely tinny and bright
o im laffin

>>59377749
>o im laffin
avin a giggl?

>>59377632
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>59377419
DT770 80 ohm is the typical recommendation for such a use case scenario.

If you want to step up and spend even more (and yes it fits your budget), then get Oppo PM-3.

>>59377801
bro he's cyclops dont you see l^)
pew pew lazer man

>>59375832
The Snowball iCE is very good, I cannot help you with the recording software.

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>>59377803
>recommendations
Many thanks. Looking at them right now.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?

How does the headphone jack in a pair of speakers work? Does it pass through directly with no theoretical loss of signal quality, or is it processed by the speakers and possibly tarnished?

>>59377944
Depends entirely on the speakers.

>>59377966
Dubs speak the truth

I recieved the FiiO Q1 today, just tried it out with my phone, first through USB OTG and secondly just through line in (on high gain). It worked both times as the sound was coming through but the volume was no higher than with no amp/dac when using the HE400i (which is not loud enough). Am i doing something wrong or can the Q1 really not reliably drive them?

>>59377572
Agreed. The Schiit stack is obsolete now that the NFB-11 exists. It may come from China, but it's hand built primarily with high quality components outsourced from outside of China, and is extensively tested for something like 100 hours before it makes its way to you.

>O2/ODAC

No, don't do that.

>>59377519
It's so ugly though.

Also I don't think I need a DAC/AMP. My computer is only set to 50% of max volume and it's loud enough.

>>59377966
Is that to say some do and some don't, or just crappy speakers = crappy headphone port?

>>59378033
I ordered the modi 2 + magni 2 from schiit posted internationally, was like 360 AUD or something like that. I needed them for my planars but i also tried them with easier to drive headphones and they sounded cleaner and different instruments were more defined. Also i think the bass was cleaner. I never used to take it on board when people said an amp increases quality but the schiit stack definitely does (plugged into my laptop)

>>59378076
Both. Its pretty much completely unknown unless we know what speakers.
Its generally just extremely shitty Logitech speakers that have them anyway. I'd say don't worry and actually just buy a good pair of speakers.
I'd doubt the signal would remain unchanged though.

>>59378122
http://stuartconnections.com/products/Computers/Peripherals/Speakers/G-Max_2000/description.htm

It's not a big deal either way, it'd just be more convenient to use that port than to give my tower a reach around to j-j-jam it into the headphone jack.

>>59378167
Yeah those look pretty garbage.
Just test it out. If you cant hear a difference, do whatever is most convenient. If you can, just run an extension cable around from your PC to your desk. Glue/blutack it onto your desk or something.

>>59377737
>Fulla 2 has more features, but yeah E10k is still better value for raw sound, unless you need the extra power. Fulla 2 does sound a tiny bit better though.

e10k lacks line-in so it can't be used as only an amp. It's either dac+amp or nothing.

>>59379081
Thanks for telling me something I already knew?

>>59379094
Well, it was the deciding factor on me getting "fulla schiit too" vs e10k.

Can't say I'm not happy with the shit. It's well-built, works well and has a huge, neat feeling volume knob.

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The schiit schilling never ends

The more popular a product is, the more critics it has. This makes it hard sometimes to judge how good something is because there are people vehemently recommending products and a group of people vying equally vehemently that it's overrated. How can you know who to trust?

>>59379790
>How can you know who to trust?
You can't

>>59377737
what dac and amp would you recommend for reasonably high resistance headphones?

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>>59376337
Equipment: HyperX memeCloud2
Source: The USB Sound Card that came with it
Volume: 10 / 100
Background noise: My PC 2-3ft away from me; probably producing 50-60db of noise (?)

Am I deaf? kek

>>59379975
>what dac and amp would you recommend for reasonably high resistance headphones?
Resistance doesnt mean anything in relation to an amp unless you know sensitivity of the headphone. DAC has no relation to either of those. Also depends on what you define as 'reasonable'.

Which headphone are you talking about?

>>59379984
>Am I deaf? kek
says you got hearing loss
bad luck bud

>>59376337
Doing this test without very closed back headphones won't give perfect results. Every otorhinolaringologist uses massive closed back headphones with very thick pads to test your hearing

>>59380009
Cloud 2's isolate a reasonable enough for a basic assesment. I had my fan on 1 meter away from me and still got reasonable results.

>>59379996
feelsbadman

>>59373563
Show them. Maybe I can help you understand.

>>59379790
You have to understand the product yourself and search for quantifiable, measured data.

>>59380019
It's okay my dude. Everyone here will experience hearing loss, it's only natural. Just try not to fuck yours up any further.

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>>59379984
>>59380166

So I re calibrated and did not see the calibration file. Volume is now on 26.

Still got dem hearing loss lole. Oh well.

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>>59379790
Certain people are contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian.

>>59379975
Whatever yields 115+dB ideally, or at least 110dB, when paired with the phones on audiobot9000.

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>All these people taking the results of this test seriously

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not bad considering how loud i blast my music

>>59373301
>>59373389

I haven't touched the EQ since I lost the preset. I've messed around with it in the past and added bass but it was never quite as good as his pre-set. I couldn't find it on the archive. Peace is shit btw.

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Suppose I can add a little to this thread, being as how I took delivery of pic related today.

I had two criteria: Passive noise isolation (small kids), and dour cheapassedness. These drum isolation headphones fit.

Rubber top strap is flexible and sits well, overall a little heavy but not as clampy around the ears as other passive isolators I've used.

Made of cheap, noisy to the touch, thick hard plastic. Probably will wear quite well and better than some of the other ones out there have (for example the Philips over-ears). Heavily built. Good cable and tough construction.

Biggest negative is sound quality, they don't have good drivers. Worse than other over-ears at this price point (in other words plain bad). Essential to use the computer equalizer to boost treble. Don't care though, they're worth it for my use case. Came with audio adapter and bag.

>>59379984
>>59380199
How old are you? Have you been to many concerts? Worked in construction? Worked in home garage without earpro?

>>59381267
>not bad considering how loud i blast my music
you didn't calibrate it right.

>>59373389
>>59373136
>>59373301
>>59381279
Any of you guys know how to actually EQ headphones? Equalizer APO is good, but where can I get test tones to dial in my sound?

>>59381668
>where can I get test tones to dial in my sound?
this site has a bunch of stuff
http://www.audiocheck.net/
http://www.audiocheck.net/testtones_index.php

>>59381620
19 yo. going 20.

I have been to multiple concerts, lived for sometime near construction zones, and probably traveled and stay within noisy environments in general.

>>59381794
None of that is bad enough to have hearing like that. It's probably genetic then. If I were you, I'd go to an audiologist and get it checked out by a professional. You can get amazing hearing aids these days.

>>59381718
thanks laddy, it'll take a bit of doing; but I should be able to make a profile for each of my 'Phones.

Only issue with Equalizer APO is that when switching profiles the program itself can crash and become unrecoverable, bit of a bummer really.

>>59381850
>Giving advice based on a test with a noise floor and headphones with a less than ideal frequency curve.

Chances are anon's hearing is perfectly fine, going to an audiologist and getting a real test will give peace of mind for sure, but the only real advice you can give really is to get some custom moulded earplugs for concerts and industrial settings.

It's not like a set of filtered plugs is expensive, Earmold silicone plugs are about the price of a good d8 m8 and will save your ass to listen to shit dubstep in all its glory for another day.

>>59381926
Gotta admit my headset isn't top notch ofc.

Yeap, I'll go to a real doctor soon, ear plugs are bretty common in this current household so that's solved.

Gotta also admit I listen to shitty dubstep once in a while, kek muh wubs m8

Thanks anons. Bless u and our ears.

>>59381982
No probs anon, I'd recommend about -20db filters or so for truly loud concerts, workshop power tools and such.

Happy listening, may low THD, constant phase and high transient capacity come your way.

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What USB sound card or DAC should I get to rid myself of the terrible onboard laptop audio? I've been using Creative X-Fi 5.1 and Omni and they did the job well, but now that both of them are in silicon heaven I wonder if there are better options under 100$.

My headphones are first-gen Sennheiser Momentums, over-ear (decent enough and I like them, but not audiophile level), I'm mostly watching movies and cartoons, listening to weeb music and occasionally playing single-player stuff.

Been considering between getting another Omni (having a mic can be helpful), X-Fi HD (seems to be slightly better but oddly only 1/4" jacks), Asus U7 (contrasting opinions everywhere), Creative G5 (more expensive than I'd like), FiiO E10K (apparently good for music, but no surround for movies/games), Schiit Fulla (same worries as the E10K as it's also a DAC). Am I missing anything? Is one of these a good option? Would there even be any discernible difference with 18 Ohm 110 db headphones? I can at least hear a big difference between Omni, crappy laptop onboard (and I'm stuck with a crappy one) and cheaper Creative USB sticks and such.

>>59377035
>no shipping to Russia
Well there goes that, and the Russian reseller asks for $200+, and the EU one doesn't have Fulla's in stock.

>>59382761
Schiit Fulla 2.

>>59382761
>no surround for movies/games

That's software. Don't fall for the marketing bullshit.

>>59382981
How's it for movies? Does the lack of (virtual?) surround show or not really?

>>59382761
fulla 2 or e10k, whichever is cheaper.

I'm currently running my AKG K712 through my Scarlett Solo as my sound card so I can use both them and my powered speakers with the AISO drivers through my DAW and everything else. Does that give me enough juice to power my K712's or will I still need a dedicated amp to run them?

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>>59360811
Fuck it, decided to tweak the EQ myself and it sounds good to me. How does this look? it's for my hd600. I only want a small bass increase.

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>>59383089
And here's the EQ switched off

>>59383003
Yeah, I know it's software, it's pretty obvious that I can't have legit 5.1 with stereo headphones, but I've heard people saying on the internet that the lack of this gimmick in its Creative or ASUS variation can be noticeable, especially in games, and replacements like Razer Surround are crap. If that's not a big deal (I'm not playing competitively or anything) then I would probably try a DAC this time, a E10K or whatever Fulla I can get in Russia or Finland under 100$.

>>59383089
Looks like ass midbass boost. Check the archive and learn to use the software.

>>59373136
How can you be so terrible that you deleted it a second time?

Preamp: -7 dB
Filter: ON PK Fc 20 Hz Gain 7 dB Q 0.7
Filter: ON PK Fc 170 Hz Gain -2 dB Q 0.5

>>59383174
Alcohol.

Thanks again.

>>59383174
Looks like this after adding it into the config. I was drunk last time when I set it up. Is there something else I need to do? I'd like to be able to quickly switch it on or off for testing, but I can't remember how I did it.

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>>59383278
>pic related

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>>59373136
I asked you like 3 times in separate threads if you checked the archive and you ignored me; you could have found it on there this whole time

>>59383407
I already said that I looked and couldn't find it

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>budget
Desirably under 300 eurocux
>location
EU, weedland, online buying or stores okay
>source
Phone and laptop. Phone is redmi note3pro which I'm guessing has a garbage dac
>type of headphone
Full size, closed
>comfort level
Not huge deal but desirably as comfortable as possible, wear anywhere from 2-8 hours a day
>sound signature
Dunno, I listen to everything from DnB/house to Black metal and classical
>past headphones
2 pairs of shure se215, I'm over them and ready for the full headphone meme, but I'll keep them for my gym routines

Thanks in advance lads

>>59383407
I've done it but it's not actually effecting anything, and the graph isn't showing any change even though I've opened the text file.I had this problem last time but I solved it somehow.

>>59383492
Ah, I've sorted it now. Thanks for looking in the archive friendo

>>59383429
You could have quite easily if you had taken the time, you drunk. You're lucky that guy showed up again and threw you another bone

>>59383651
I've been here for years and I didn't even know there was a fucking archive, I've never needed it before. I tried to find it and I didn't expect the other guy to go find it for me. I appreciate the fact that he did.

>>59383716
That was me, I'm just giving you a hard time

>>59383802
Well then ;)

>>59382761
E10k is excellent.

>>59382981
kys Schiit shill.

What's the best Schiit Magni 2 alternative for Yuropoors? I'm thinking about getting the E10K but I just need the amp and not a DAC.

>>59383888
get E10k.

>>59383907
I'm going to run it through my Scarlett Solo to give my headphones more juice, just an amp would be better

>>59383888
Similar question here, but I need a DAC/AMP combo for the same price (100€ I guess).

>>59383888
Get the e10k m8, it sounds exactly the same as the odac but it's much cheaper.

HyperX Cloud I or II and why?

>>59383062
enough juice, why do you even ask if you have it right in front of you?

s m h t b h f a m

>>59384032
1, usb surround is a gimmick.

>>59383947
>I'm going to run it through my Scarlett Solo to give my headphones more juice, just an amp would be better
no need. you'll just introduce more noise. use Scarlett for mics only.

>>59383888
>>59383978
>>59383878
I suggest Schiit Fulla 2.

e10k is fine if you're ok with less power and with not having a line-in jack, which effectively prevents you from using it as an AMP only, by forcing you to use the DAC. It's also china made.

Good day /hpg/ looking for a suggestion:
>Budget
Under $300.
>Location
Probably getting it off Amazon.
>Source
PC
>Type
Full sized
>Open/Closed
Closed, I'm not living alone.
>Comfort
Willing to take a good hit to quality for comfort, I tend to wear them for long periods of time on weekends.

And a bonus:
Is it possible to have something decent and wireless? I want to be able to walk around the house while still listening to stuff, or sit far from the monitor when watching stuff.

Thanks, I'll appreciate suggestions/insults.

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>>59384198
>less power
mine's at 3 all the time. I don't need more power.

>china
who gives a shit. it uses a high quality Ti DAC chipset.

Daily reminder that DAC A/B comparisons are banned on Head-Fi because there's no discernible differences among them and their advertisers, like Schiit, got butthurt over them. If anyone tells you otherwise, they're lying and are trying to sell you some pointless expensive shit. Incidentally, headphone A/B testing is allowed on Head-Fi.

PS: Fuck shills. And fuck you too.

>>59384360
>mine's at 3 all the time. I don't need more power.

That's not power, that's GAIN. Moron.

>>59384337
I'd say your best bet is to get closed phones with a detachable cable and then get a separate bluetooth receiver like the one by mpow.

ATH MSR7 is in your budget.

>>59384382
who gives a shit, shill. the end result is the same: higher volume. kys.

>>59384434
>the end result is the same: higher volume.
You have no clue what you're talking about.

Kindly fuck off.

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Just got these in the mail.
They're pretty.

>>59384032
Get Cloud Core if it's available. Cheaper and no extra memes.

>>59384467
I know you're a schiit shill. that's all I need to know.

ps: fuck off to head-fi and shill it there.. you'll be awarded with banners and shit for your efforts.

>>59384515
what do they sound like? for that price, I'd buy Fostex instead.

nice HD800

>>59384619
Larger soundstage than I expected. Bass is punchy. That's right off the bat, it'll take me a few hours of listening to get used to them.
I wanted closed cans, but didn't want to spend a bunch on th900s. Ended up with these.

>>59384719
should have went with fostex x massdrop ones. my buddy got them and I tried them. they sounded great to me (I use HD600 as my main driver).

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00

>>59384784
Thought about those
They seem to have more quality issues and lower resale value. Also no detachable cables.
Need be, I could probably sell these $450 easily. I really like them though.

>>59383436
Bump

http://www.head-fi.org/products/logitech-ue-6000
I can get these for 54 euros, are they worth it?
I am looking for over-ear headphones with a detachable cord.
This is basically the top of my budget

Are there any online videos of sound comparisons between open and closed? I'm on the fence of buying an open headphone, but I haven't owned one before, so I need to decide.

>>59385390
Open are better in 99% of cases if you don't care about sound leaking. If you're only going to use them at your desktop then open is always the way to go.

Did any of you fall for the meme?
Are your earpads cracked yet?

>>59385390
Buy open backs if you will be using them at home. You won't regret it. HD 600 and 650 don't even leak nearly as much sound as you might assume.

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>>59385708
> tfw forgot image
end my life familia

The Audioquest Dragonfly is getting good reviews everywhere, but it looks a bit wimpy being just a USB stick - how does it stack against the likes of E10K, Schill Fulla and Creative's <$100 USB cards?

>>59385755
> Audioquest
There's your answer

>>59385794
Thanks, I get the idea, but please elaborate so I can understand the reason

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>>59383436
bros pls

>>59385888
Momentum 2, MSR 7 or Sony MDR 1A are probably your best bet for that price.
I own the Momentum 2 personally and really like them. They're extremely and have super soft leather earpads which helps a lot with the comfort.
I never really wear headphones for 8 hours a day but I've gone around 4 or 5 with these and never felt any real discomfort that wasn't innate to leather earpads like hot ears and a bit of sweating.

>>59385938
I meant to say they're extremely light

>>59385674
>>59385709
I was going for the akg612, since it's in my price range (the hd598se are 220€ where I live).
Should I get an amp for them and will I need a sound card?

>>59385938
Seconding Momentums for comfort, I've got the first edition and those sit better than any of the headphones I've had (granted, not too many). They really are light, nothing's pressuring your head, the pads are good - they can get worn out, but the chinese replacements are actually just as good. Perfect for both home and street use, which makes sense as they were designed to be more of a stylish trendy gadget than an audiophile system.

Can't say much about the sound quality as I don't have anything to compare to, to me they do sound slightly boring (like, still really good, especially as I got used to them, but nothing in the sound stands out to me), but then my ideal was HD 202 for a long time and those are considered utter crap by basically anyone else. Also, I'm the guy who is looking for a DAC a couple of posts earlier so that may be my problem instead of the headphones.

>>59383436
Save up and get a PM-3.

>>59386252
Is HD558 or SHP9500 available where you live? Those are the best bang for buck open headphones and don't need an amp.

K612 is pretty insensitive and MAY need an amp but on some on-board soundcards it will get really loud.

>>59386437
Are either better or worse than then k612? Could you compare them?

HD558 vs HD598CS ?

>>59386542
558 + Foam mod

>>59386542
HD598se, HD600, HD650. The CS are closed crap. They use the same driver as the HD380 Pro.

>>59385755
>Creative
Don't do that to yourself. Ever since Audigy, they've only sold overpriced shit-sounding buggy hardware with BSOD drivers.

>e10k
Chink. Watch out for lack of line-in. Using its builtin DAC is mandatory.

>>59386252
>(the hd598se are 220€ where I live).
Try amazon.es, .fr, .de, .co.uk. They might ship to you with more reasonable prices than that.

>>59363908
Get the Se 215 they are worth it.

>>59386948
NigBass

>>59386530
About the same if you aren't picky.

I'd say the SHP9500 is the best for its high compatibility on sources, K612 is a bit difficult to power, HD558 is easy to power but can sound like shit on some high impedance sources.

>>59387290
What do you mean by difficult to power? I only use it on PC anyway.

>>59386844
>Don't do that to yourself
Thanks, will keep that in mind, however my X-Fi/Omni never caused any BSODs at least, that honor mostly goes to the onboard audio and wlan on all laptops that I've had.

That said, the picture that I'm getting is rather grim, but I guess that was expected.

>FiiO - chinkshit (is it really bad though? Basically everything is Chinese these days and we're living just fine)
>Schiit is apparently shill merchandising (seriously though?)
>Creative's better days are long over
>ASUS ruins good internals by overprocessing
>Audioquest is >Audioquest

Guess any one of those is a big upgrade over onboard chinkshit I have, but wow.

>>59387311
Compared to the other two, K612 will need more gain to sound loud.

just get the /g/ approved o2/odac

>>59388883
Or get the e10k which sounds exactly the fucking same and costs 4 times less.

Are there better closed headphones under $200 US than the DT 770?

>>59389254
Perhaps, depends on what you want more specifically.

>>59389254
There probably isn't anything with better build quality. Not everyone will like how they sound though.

>>59389289
Their extended bass is the main appeal to me.

Always used mostly neutral headphones, looking for something more "fun."
From what I understand the 770's have a pretty prominent bass boost without the highs being too piercing and mids disappearing.

>>59389347
Highs could be piercing but it's a V-shaped set with deep bass.

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