/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zBs4jc

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Repost, updated with better, more appropriate power supply. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FW37d6

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Working on a completely new build, thinking of getting pic related. My current system still runs a core2quad Q9505. Any pointers?

I work primarily in Flash, Unity and Photoshop. I game regularly, but no single player stuff, only with a group. I am mildly interested in starting a streaming channel though. Thanks Anons.

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Did I ruin my motherboard or CPU?

Like the retard I am, I applied a decent amount of force trying to pull out my GPU from my motherboard with one hand pressed down on the cpu fan. Only after researching did I realize I had to press down on a little switch to release the GPU.

I heard a slight crackling noise from my motherboard when I pulled on my GPU, but there's no visible signs of damage. I'm worried since this is my first computer build, and it already cost my $5000. (Can't turn it on to check because it's not fully built.)

Am I just being paranoid?

>>59311885
No you're probably fine.

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Anyone using a caseless design?

>>59311910
I am, what u need?

>>59311933
Can I see it?

>>59311988
No.

>>59312041
...is it in the shape of your social security number?

>>59312128
Too cheap, 0 dickwaving points.

>>59312128
Seems decent for what it is. I would consider doubling your ram up to 16gb, but you'll be fine if you don't desu.

>>59312128
the 7700k is 300 dollars btw.

>>59312135
I-I'm poor.

>>59312145
Yeah I picked a mobo with 4 slots so I'd eventually upgrade to 16GB.
But speaking of the mobo, would there be any reason for me to get a better one? Like a h or a z one. I just don't see the point since B250 seemingly supports all of my other parts.

Also, is 2400hz RAM good enough? I heard mixed reports regarding RAM. Some people say the difference is so petty it doesn't matter while other people say it's noticeable.

>>59312165
Better mobo and cooler would be more expensive though. I won't OC.

>>59312128
at least get an ssd

>>59311885
5k on a first build? Interesting. Do you have a link?

>>59312177
Nah, honestly expensive motherboards are useless for anyone who isn't planning on massively overclocking. You're fine with that one.

RAM speeds are mostly negligible. There is a tangible difference, but it's more of a min-max thing. You're looking at a 0.6 FPS difference for example in Metro last light using 1300 vs 2400mhz. I have seen a screenshot claiming 10fps difference for Witcher 3, but honestly the price gap is so gigantic that it's not worth it.

Consider getting a tiny SSD as Anon said for your OS, that offers a markable real life difference in speeds.

>>59311868
bump

>>59311885
I couldn't begin to think about how to spend that much on a regular pc unless it was pre-made

>>59312281
He's most likely bullshitting. No sane truth-telling individual would do a first build worth 5000$ the guy didn't even know how to remove a gpu correctly

>>59312177
>Better mobo and cooler would be more expensive though
why cant you just keep the same mobo and 10 dollar cooler and get a 7700k?

its 10 dollars more for the option of OC when you arent a poorfag anymore.

>>59312313
i thought that too but I know a lot of people who are completely retarded despite having wealth

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>>59312360
Yeah you're right. I forgot those people exist.

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>>59312219
>>59312281
>>59312313
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MCh2Z8

It's for my graduate research in machine learning. Have to throw what little cash I got to get a strong enough machine.

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How much thermal paste do I use? People udally go with pea/half-pea sized, right?
And do I need to spread it around manually? Some guides I see seem to just plop the cooler on top of the paste.

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>>59312493
Proper application

>>59312459
>It's for my graduate research in machine learning.
Thesis? I'm an ML student as well.

Also, get a pci-e SSD and you should have bought a hybrid cooler.

If you can return the titan x's, get 1080 ti's obviously.

>>59312459
>dat monitor tho

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>>59312459
>piss away 5k on parts
>doesn't even do basic research on assembly process

>>59312508
What the fuck?

>>59312493
I use a pea size amount. It will spread itself when you mount the cooler

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/29gghq

Heres my build so far, Idk about gpu and im thinking of one of these cases

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/624430/PrimoChill-Praxis-WetBench-WhiteBlack

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/622117/Thermaltake-Core-X31-Black-Mid-Tower-Case-w-Side-Panel-Window

Ill mainly use if for drawing but i want to get into development of android apps or games or something. Idk and im just procrastinating.

Can ryzen even emulate arm properly? i remember the fx series couldnt on windows.

>>59312509
No thesis. Doing Master's without a thesis since it's a real pain to do one where I'm at.

Would you know how much a pci-e SSD speeds up training time?

Yeah, when I heard about the 1080ti benchmarks, I thought about returning the titan X. But when I asked on reddit's r/machinelearning, they said it's not worth returning. Supposedly you'll have to reduce batch sizes with the 1080ti.

>>59312525
Had to cut corners somewhere.

>>59312534
I carefully read over the manuals, but they didn't mention anything about pressing a switch.

>>59312637
You don't need that mobo unless you want a dual gpu configuration. Consider a B350 board. And as for cases those are personal preference. So long as you are spending over 60$ for a quality one

>>59312649
>Would you know how much a pci-e SSD speeds up training time?
Nope, but its worth using. 2X the speed when loading data.

>Yeah, when I heard about the 1080ti benchmarks, I thought about returning the titan X. But when I asked on reddit's r/machinelearning, they said it's not worth returning. Supposedly you'll have to reduce batch sizes with the 1080ti.
If you're doing absurdly huge models then yes, other than that the 1080 ti is way better due to being faster.

>>59312649
>No thesis. Doing Master's without a thesis since it's a real pain to do one where I'm at.
edit: where are you and you should do thesis imo.

How much current does a typical 3.5" hard drive need on 5V?

I'm building a power supply ヽ(๏∀๏ )ﾉ

>>59312725
I doubt you'll get much of an answer here, go look up technical drawings on google or something.

>>59312692
I'll probably return the Titan X. Bit worried they will get lost in the mail.

I'm working with fairly large GAN.

>>59312703
Georgia Tech. Literally 99% of MSCS students don't do a thesis.

>>59312683
desu i chose it mainly for the looks and someone else saying its the only am4 mobo right now to not lack features.

On the same note of looks, what are those coves that go over ram and can you get after market ones? they look nice and all

>>59311933
a fucking case you retard

>>59313496
cases are for fucking faggots

>>59312601
Except the corners. A round blob gets smashed down into a circle, not a square. You should spread it with a latex-gloved finger, taking care not to create large concave areas that will trap air.

>>59313540
The die is less than 1cm wide in the center

>>59313564
hes trolling you retard

My monitor loses the display signal and the Gigabyte 1060's fans turn up to MAX.

This is the same problem I had. I sent this card in for RMA number XXXXXXXXX. That RMA said that no problems were found. This is the second RMA request.

Perhaps it is some driver or hardware incompatibility issue (comprising the entirety of my system). But I can't see this being the case, as my computer currently runs without issues using the Core i3's HD 530 integrated chip for graphics.

MSI B150I GAMING PRO AC motherboard
Intel Core i3 6100
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1060 Windforce OC GV-N1060WF2OC-6GD
2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 2400Mhz RAM
250 Samsung EVO 850 SSD
1TB Western Digital WD10EZEX-21M2NA0
Windows 8.1 64-bit

Thanks for the help.

>>59313609
No he's not faggot.
>implying it's not you backpedaling

>>59313633
What psu are you using and how old is it?

>>59313658

Aw, shit. I forgot to put that.

CORSAIR SF450 450W SFX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

All the components are 3 months old.

>>59313641
>You should spread it with a latex-gloved finger, taking care not to create large concave areas that will trap air.

hmmmmmmm really makes you heatsink

>>59311827

Looks good.

>>59313666
>450w for those components
holy fug dude

Is i3 7100 the go-to choice for budget CPU now? Or should I wait for budget AMD.

>>59313748
Pentium G4560 is good

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jcWF3F
Is this good enough to be a PS4 Pro killer at $100 over the price?

>>59313787
damn cheap ass americans, btw put that wifi card away and invest into getting a mobo with on board. also consider mitx for form factor.Plus you only need a 300w psu, look into a seasonic oem one

>>59313728
>>59313743

That's something I considered. However, I wasn't playing any games when this happened. Does that mean anything?

CM's recommended wattage is 226. MSI's says 151, Newegg says 386 (didn't check this one). Why are these all over the place?

So I should get the SF600?

>>59313833
http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator

Do you need to screw in all the mounting screws on a motherboard? I have it lined up to the best of my ability, the rear mounting plate is 1:1 with the ports on the motherboard (and sturdy enough on its own to prevent me from moving the motherboard around), and 3 screws towards the direction of the PSU are lined up perfectly, but there's just two on the other side that I can't get lined up properly.

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>>59313938

So should I be looking at the 275 or 500?

Don't forget, guys: I'm retarded.

>>59312459
>4k+ build
>100$ monitor

>>59313968
look at the recommended power supply
get at least gold standard
I got like 750 despite being at the same amount you're recommended so i don't have to buy another one for the considerable future and it was only 20 burgers more

>>59313996

I'll just buy the SF600. I have an NCASE M1 so I would prefer an SFX power supply.

Or kill myself. God this is irritating.

>>59314054

I CAN boot. It does this randomly after the PC has been on, usually when I'm just doing nothing. It has only done it once during a game.

The times that it has done it when I was listening to music, the music kept going, so perhaps my PC didn't crash.

I built the computer in early December; it ran fine, and then this started happening at the end of January.

>>59314215

I'll trying putting the GPU in my old system, which is still here (and has a 750w ANTEC) and which works perfectly as far as I know.

That should help determine what the problem is.

Will the i5 7500 be good enough for new AAA games? I'm getting an RX480. I'm also not sure if I could just use the Pentium to cut the budget or if I need to bump it to a 7600.

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I'm not even building anything right now, I just like putting together this list. My objective was "make a good price/ performance gaming build that also looks good". I think this would actually look pretty sweet. And it comes in under $900 usd so upgrading to 16gb ram or a faster/ bigger would be easy if you wanted to. What do you guys think?

>>59314459
>Will the i5 7500 be good enough for new AAA games?
Yes. Gpu will be the bottleneck, not cpu.
>I'm also not sure if I could just use the Pentium to cut the budget
maybe too weak, might limit your graphics card in this case. If you were looking at a 1050ti / rx 460 / used last gen gpu scenario, i'd say go with the pentium but you want the 4 cores for the future.
>or if I need to bump it to a 7600
7600 is a bad purchase. $30 more for a measly 100mhz. 7500 or 7600k. The 7600 does not exist for smart shoppers.

I want to buy i5 + 1060 but I wonder if I should wait a month and get 1070 instead?

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>>59314695
>>59314459
I have a 6600k @4.2ghz and a Rx 480 at stock clocks. All of these games run smooth and nice, except spacehulk: deathwing because that game is optimized like absolute shit. It doesn't really even run that well on a gtx 1070/980ti. Also all current Blizzard games.

>>59314695
>>59314738
Alright thanks amigos, I think I will just go with the i5 7500 + RX480 then

>>59313820 >>59313787
PCPer is showing the only micro atx board with on board wifi is about $200. Though there are lots of Mini-Itx ones available. I guess that would be fine if they don't care about putting a tiny board in a larger case. It is windowless after all. However, the only ones under $100 are h110, which would need a bios to use the kaby pentium. They would have to go to a local PC shop, or find a friend willing to let them use their skylake cpu for to update that mobo. Though a $100 motherboard will have much nicer features, especially sound chip, than a $45 board plus a $40 adapter.
I also HIGHLY recommend you do not use a 5200rpm drive as a boot drive. Will be slow as balls. Get a 7200 rpm much nicer drive for $12 more.
You also did not include RAM. Kind of need that. I dropped the graphics card down to a Rx 470 to keep you within budget. It also has a $20 rebate which is nice.

Here is my revised list for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R3ZVHN
>>59314765
I was actually the same poster in >>59314738 and >>59314695 as a quick FYI. Also >>59314664 if you're interested in that, since you are looking at the same kind of base components.

>>59314726
If you're at 1080p on a 60hz monitor, just get the 1060. You'll be running like 110-140 fps in most games with a 1070, which is awesome, but your monitor will only display 60fps. Waste of hardware potential. If you're 1080p 144hz though, the 1070 will be a much better purchase. But it sounds like you need to save up money for it. I generally don't recommend saving up for things you can't comfortably afford, because that usually means you're broke afterwards.

>>59314896
Oh "Ps4 pro killer" anon, don't forget to account for the cost of monitor and operating system, unless you already have a monitor and will pirate your windows install.

>>59311701
I got the task to build a gaming pc for my gf (doesn't need to be very strong).
Now i'm looking at the 700€ (very good) build at logicalincrements and it says RX470.

So my question, are Radeon cards still a meme? Outdated drivers, problems with games and all? Or are they finally usable?

>>59315066
that was never really true, go for gold imo pay more for a 480

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Hey friends, my 980 just died.

I play on 1080p, 144hz.

I have a disposable income for parts and the 1080ti seems like it'd just be overkill.

Should I just get a 1080 now that the price has dropped?

>>59315066
see >>59314738
Been using my Rx 480 since late November. No problems really. Amd drivers have been pretty good overall.
My only "bad" gaming experience due to the radeon was that Witcher 3 had some weirdly inconsistent frame-times (time it takes to display the frames, not amount of frames displayed). But I fixed it with RivaTuner. Besides that everything has been buttery smooth.

Job will sponsor ~$3000 and I'm paying the rest myself.

I guess I could go with a cheaper GPU and a smaller PSU, but meh.

Mostly a work station for development and I'll be hosting shittons of VMs on this thing. So AMD's MOAR COAR solution is pretty much up my alley. It's either that or Opteron/Xeon, and that's a lot more expensive.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2n6GwV

>>59315094
>>59315066
Oh, and I just looked at the "very good" tier build you just mentioned. Two things to note; firstly their case recommendations are way out of date, and they also recommend a hyper 212 on the i3. That cooler is overkill to hell for a system that can't overclock. Use the free intel stock cooler, or get a literally the cheapest cooler you can find if you think the intel stock cooler might be too loud under load. Shop for cases manually really. The rest of the list that they put up seems more than fine.

>>59315165
Why the cooler? Did you just filter by noctua and cheapest? That case you chose has plenty of room for a bigger one. You will want to OC that badboy 1800x, so get something like the Cryorig h7 (better) or hyper 212 evo (more available).
Also why the rx 480? Is it so you can game on it a bit? Or just to drive some displays? Because you can get a much cheaper graphics card for display outs if you aren't gaming at all. If you ARE gaming you might as well step up to at least a gtx 1070 in this price tier, because you can drive a 1440p/ 144hz monitor easy on this calibre of machine.
I also recommend you do not use wifi on this thing. Ethernet is much more stable, and almost always a lot faster.

My PC grilled my SSD twice. Both times it was Sandisk Ultra II. Now I am using a Samsung Evo 750 and i think it is matter of time until that one dies too. Somebody an idea what could cause that? I have read that it has to be either the power supply or the mainboard or the cables. But which one of these could have caused that most probably?

>excuse bad english

>>59315175
Ye i already wondered about the extra cooler thing. I'm probably going to spend those 20bucks to get the rx480 instead.
The i3 7100 is strong enough right? I'm personally using an i5 ivy generation at home so i can't tell. Never used a 2 core for gaming.

>>59315358
Just look up benchmarks mate. The best answer we can give is "probably, but it depends on a lot of things".

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>>59312637
get the normal case lol

>>59313633
update your drivers, I had the same issue after upgrading to windows 10. After waiting a while for microsoft/ nvidia to sort their shit out and release a fucken proper driver, I updated and have had no issues for the last 8~ months


pic related is the mini ITX build I purchased last night, it should arrive tomorrow. Gonna use it to run Lakka. The old rig I'm emulating on at the moment runs OK, but cant handle turning up graphics options or increasing internal GPU resolution. I'm excited as fuck and so is my missus because she loves trippin on nostalgia hard as fuck.

If I'm using Fractal Design Define R5 and want to have a quiet computer should I be using a blower style GPU cooler, or one of the open style coolers?

>>59315987
open air should be quieter

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>>59311701
Just got my motherboard and PSU back from RMA. I put all my components back together and fired it up. So far so good but only one of my two RAM sticks were detected. I reseated them both to see if that was it but nothing.

The RMA was because my PSU went bad and killed my motherboard (I presume anyway because neither worked). Could it be that the PSU took one of my sticks of RAM? Also my GPU seemed fine but I didn't test it using a game or graphic testing program. Just on the desktop would a damaged GPU display any symptoms?

Pic related, it's the guts

>>59311701
Rate

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kM6GwV

It's an upgrade build based off some parts I own and the Ryzen I'm gonna buy. It's gonna be a general-purpose workstation, and will do both heavy CAD and gaming.

>>59316485
Forgot to add, there's an R7 260X as a secondary GPU and it drives one of the two 1920x1080 monitors I own.

>>59312188
>>59312243
Late reply but thanks anons. As for the SDD yes I was planning on getting one yes.

>>59312315
Is the 7700K compatible with the B250? On that EU website I'm using they don't give me the choice for the K versions when selecting the B250... but perhaps they're doing this because they don't want people planning on overclocking to have a bad surprise?

>10 dollar cooler and get a 7700k?
I'm thinking about it now after reading that comment here :
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9mRFf7/intel-core-i7-7700-36ghz-quad-core-processor-bx80677i77700
>The reason I've docked a star (and I feel like I'm being generous not docking more) is the stock cooler. It's insanely noisy at load and very quick to rev up even when doing basic things like downloading Steam games, and yet even despite all the noise (plus extensive tweaking of fan profiles on my part) it can't manage to get the CPU much under 80C. No, it won't cause lasting damage to the CPU and no it's not technically not working, but especially with AMD's Wraith on the market I really feel like Intel needs to step it up here.

One of the reasons I'm going for the 7700 is for the lower price and the fact that it already has a ventirad... but if the said ventirad is shit and I'd need to buy a better one then it's kind of a no brainer here and I should indeed go for the 7700k. 80°c is just stupid. Thoughts?

I have a spare celeron g1610t lying around. Is it still worth making a build around it for a pure storage server?

>>59316972
B250 will power a 7700k, but you still can't OC.
7700 + 10$ cooler + b250/h170 or;
7700k+ $25-35ish cooler + z270. Any other combinations are retarded. Don't go with the "later upgrade" shit. You're going to buy a whole new motherboard and cooler to save what, $40 in the short term?

The human eye cannot see past 5400 rpm.

SSD and 7200 rpm are a MEME

>>59317583
You can OC, on a B150 at least. Using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, It lets me OC a KabyLake Pentium. Not that I actually do it, but you can.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/theviacom/saved/HfKxrH

Dismantle it, /g/. It's a general "budget" gaming desktop. Thinking about recommending it to a friend, but I don't want to fuck anything up by peer consideration.

My GPU died and I need a replacement. IS 1080 worth buying atm if I have an (OC'ed) monitor @ 75 hz and an OC'ed I5 4690k or should I stick to 1070? Don't want to spend so much on 1080TI

I MIGHT get a 144 hz g-sync monitor later this year

>>59317906
Current monitor is 1080p, forgot to add

Would like to play current / soon released games on ultra

>>59317841
the fuck are you doing recommending a pentium for games

games nowadays support multicore more than ever and the pentium is complete trash, get something with at least 4 cores

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Reminder to anyone building a gaming PC with Windows 10:
Disable Xbox DVR! That shit can cost you 10-20 fps depending on the game simply by being there, even if you aren't actually doing anything with it.

Is 650W enough for a 1080Ti and an overlocked i5 or i7? Nvidia recommends 600W of power and the card draws 250W, but the 750 version of the PSU I want is on sale for $5 more.

Should I go with the 750 for more OC headroom and cause they're basically the same price?

Will 100W make that big of a difference in terms of efficiency?

>>59316148
Anyone?

Is FreeSynch a meme or worth it?

>>59318035
There's no reason not to if it's only $5 more.

>>59318124
If the good stick works in every single port, then yeah, your other stick is dead.

>>59317991
dumb ass, Kabylake Pentium have 2c/4t
and won't bottleneck anything below or equal an RX 480. It also costs $60 so it's a literal no brainer

>>59318237
if it's anything as good as g-sync (only used that) then yeah, it's noticeable and hard to go back from once you experience it

>>59318321
4 cores > 4 threads idiot

>>59318330
Wow, I'm late.
If I wasn't for budget, I would use a 7600k.

>>59317583
But I don't plan on OCing, ever. So couldn't I just,
>7700k+ $25-35ish ($10?) cooler + B250
?

>Don't go with the "later upgrade" shit. You're going to buy a whole new motherboard and cooler to save what, $40 in the short term?
I'm not sure I get what you mean here.

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What is the smallest possible casing for my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Y6mTD8

I actually want it A E S T H E T I C S instead of T H I C C.

Is this 1080 worth a damn ? Why is it so cheap ?

What's Turbo mode? Do I need to manually activate it or does it do it automatically? Talking about CPUs.

>>59318559
Forget me. I changed it to a 7500.

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Before you bully the everliving fuck out of me, could you answer this? I know the CPU is bottlenecked to the 960, should I buy a new motherboard and CPU? If so, which one should I buy for this build?

>>59318330
THAT IS FALSE

Hey, bozos. Newegg has DEALS on i5 7600K ($229) and Asus z170 Pro ($139) today.

>>59319315
>tfw ordered 7600K for $239 from amazon last night

>>59319278
no it isnt the same number of physical cores will always out perform the same number of threads with half the physical cores

anyway buying a pentium for $60 now when you could buy an i5 for $200~ or less is dumb because the i5 will last you quite a bit longer for general computing and video games than a pentium

>>59319369
>tfw picked up 7700k for $300 and only 3.5% sales tax at local MC
im set for 10 years

Just got a new msi 270 with i7 core to game and run photoshop.
Anyway, I ran into an issue
When I turn it on (can only via the reset button, mightve connected the power sw wrong)
the lights boot up, fans starts spinning but I get no screen.
I hear it booting up, I have a hdmi with a adapter for dvi (the mobo has no vga port) plugged in, but I cant get a display.

could this have to do wiht the HD? should i start it up with a different harddisk?
I have 2 ram sticks, that I tried sitching to see if that wsa the issue and although I cant tell for sure since I have no other pc that can run ddr4 ram sticks it seems farfetched that both would be defect.

>>59319623
does your MB have POST codes? read the manual

>>59315066
I basically leave the logical increments in the OP because it gives the reader SOME idea of tiers, but really the individual builds aren't that great. Falcon is obsessed with increments to the detriment of logic

Look at the cheapest build in the pcbg partpicker and add a 240GB SSD (G4560 + GTX 1050)

>>59319277
No need to change anything about that build

>>59319586
Better to get the G4560 now and an i7 later in my opinion. That or a cheap locked i5

>>59319623
Connect monitor to gfx card, not mobo. Fix your writing too

>>59319667
yeah Im on a laptop with keys for ants and its laggy as fuck too, so excuse my spelling please

But wouldnt connecting to the gfx be a bad choice since the mobo hasnt been installed yet?
Afaik you always boot up from the internal gfx first time, then install the drivers so you can use the gfx card

>>59319095
Automatic, but you can get an all core turbo if you have a Z270 or a flashed Z170 by activating XMP in BIOS

>>59318680
Depends on your res. I'd get either the 1070 or 1080Ti

>>59318652
Need more RAM
Mobo is ATX so not that small. Otherwise you're looking at SFX or ITX

>>59318599
I would still get a Z270 + 3000MHz RAM for XMP + all core turbo

>>59318321
Mostly yes but there can be some slight stuttering in some games with that Pentium and RX cards

>>59318035
If same price why not

>>59317906
Get 1070 If you're for sure upgrading to 1440p

>>59319704
If your gfx card isn't installed then yes, connect monitor to mobo. But if you can't get a display you might try installing gfx card

>>59319604
How many years is 6600k overclocked to 4.5 Ghz good for? Scientific answer, please.

>>59311701
>https://pcpartpicker.com
>Noob question im sure

Is pcpartpicker **better** than Newegg?

>>59320048
Personal preference. I think it makes compiling lists easier.

t. >>59317841

>>59319901
I did that and now I still get a black screen but a white line appearing or a loading symbol very briefly before disappearing

Is something broken?

The mouse turns on, the keyboard blinks when starting but then wont respond to capslock or numlock (no lights are burning)

If im asking too much questions for the thread let me know.

>>59320114
I can definitely see that. I was just wondering if this was where everyone seems to order from or maybe its just an easy place to show off a build quickly.

>>59311701
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qdmwpb
Should I change anything?

>>59320117
I see that this is a booting issue.
I tried inserting an older d and I get the exact same thing, flashing cursor. Google tells me its a booting issue.
sadly i dont have the windows cd anymore.
Is there any way for fix this booting issue?

I currently have a Corsair 700D case
>X99 ATX
>RX480 but want a vega, so a single full size GPU
>M.2, 2.5 inch SSD and 3.5 inch HDD, maybe another 3.5 in the future.
>custom water loop with 360mm rad (push/pull fans) separate pump and res

I want a smaller case, not some LAN party special that will be choked of any air flow but something that is more manageable if I have to move it about in the future.
I have no preference of aesthetics or if its windowed or not, just something practical that will fit the components I currently have.
What would /g/ recommend?

>>59320128
If you're on Z170/Z270 it's actually the opposite since those chipsets only support dual channel memory, meaning 2x8 will always be better than 4x4.

>>59313633
I had something kind of similar with my RX480. It would just crash in-game or on desktop, recover, and leave a driver error message in event viewer. I just sent it in for a RMA yesterday, but I have no idea if it's a hardware issue causing crashes, a power issue, or a driver issue only. I had the latest drivers and rolled them back to multiple old ones, but all crashes. PSU is a EVGA G2 650w so shouldn't be hitting the power ceiling.

Windows 10 is kind of a shit when it comes to drivers too, and is a pain to disable auto-updates.

Hilariously, it wanted to "update" me to Catalyst 16.6.

>>59320048
I use Newegg for browsing, but plug it into pcpartpicker to find good prices and ensure compatibil

>>59320153
It's both! Do either.

>>59320167
Use cheaper 2400mhz RAM. Use a cheaper ADATA or SanDisk 256 GB SSD. Use an RX 480 8GB instead of 1060 for drivers and VRAM.

>>59319901
>activating XMP in BIOS
>Z270 + 3000MHz RAM for XMP + all core turbo
This is all new info to me... would this XMP thing fatigue my PC parts more in the long run?

And does that mean you can get more out of an i7-7700 or 7700k with a z270 even without OCing just from that turbo option that B250 is lacking? I'm a bit lost now.

Can anyone recommend a good 23-25" monitor with a matte display? Preferably 1440p.

I can't stand gloss and glare and the only one I've found is at best buy, but it's a cheapy one and only 1080p.

Price range ~$400

>>59320614
>>59320167
Here are my suggested changes in action with a little more:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xWHQV

Here's my current build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tfRW6X

I use it for gaming, but it's starting to show its age, especially the processor. Is this worth trying to upgrade piecemeal, or should I just buy a whole new rig?

>>59320754
Thanks for the advice.

>>59320633
xmp is just ram overclocking. If you don't fuck with the voltages it won't "fatigue" anything unless you overclock your ram to a ludicrous amount beyond it's rating (like making 2133mhz rated sticks go to 3200mhz). Low end cpu overclocking won't "fatigue" your parts to any noticeable amount either, as long as your cooling is sufficient and your voltage isn't absurd.

>And does that mean you can get more out of an i7-7700 or 7700k with a z270 even without OCing
Yes, xmp is a perfectly valid reason to buy a z series chipset if that is your question.

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I've never overclocked before, what would you recommend?

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>finally get my 1700
>swap goes without a hitch, boots right into windows
>but the fucking activation troubleshooter is saying microsoft servers are down
>also CPU-Z is giving me a core voltage of 1.936
>speccy isn't giving a temp reading
>pretty sure one of my case fans just broke too, ordered a replacement but it won't arrive until Saturday
fuck you too, microshit

>>59320683
Dell U2515H

Just bought two. They're outstanding.

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Need help. Upgrading mobo and processor and now my os hangs here.

>>59321011
OK so this whole thing was just about ram, then?

I don't think I plan on buying expensive RAM, I had personally settled for 2400hz, so in my case it doesn't matter if I go with a b250 right? My i7 will still go into turbo mode?

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>>59321002
No problem. Niceposting is rare on /g/.

>>59321086
Fresh install.

>>59321086
does the animation hang too?
could just be Windows getting set for the new hardware
if it's still moving then leave it for like 10 minutes and see what happens
if not then yeah, fresh install

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CW7KM8 here's my lanbox gaming / streaming build /g/.

>>59321043
but holy fuck everything is so much snappier now

>>59321086
>It jest werks

>>59321142
Trying to avoid fresh install but if I must...

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Don't really know what I could upgrade, desu.
Cpu runs 4.5Ghz, and I don't need AMD's faster winzip cpu.
Waiting on vega to decide if I go SLI 1080(ti) or keep on with crossfire.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8xjmBP
I need suggestions for a case and cooling solution.
I've never used liquid but I'm thinking about overclocking so... is it easy or really high maintenance?
Thanks

My parts atm:

>R7 1700x
>G.skill trident z 3200mhz 16g x2
>Noctua NH-L9x65 SE Am4
>Corsair cx750m
>Sapphire nitro+ rx470 4g
>Gygabite x370 aorus gaming 5 mobo
>Samsung 960 NVMe m.2 250go
>Corsair 100r

The only missing part is the mobo which still not shipped yet...


Gonna wait for vega to buy two and set them on CF. I might also build a watercooling loop with hard tubing on cpu and gpus when I get my vegas. I might change the case too for better comfyness

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>>59321020
4GHz

>>59321123
I am the poster who originally brought up XMP. With a B250 you only get single core turbo, not all core turbo. And fast RAM is a no brainer

>>59321086
Bios updated? No idea.

>>59321249
Honestly that pic isn't really showing any noticeable differences, I'll still go with 2400mhz and never bother to OC or w/e my RAM.

So let's say I get a z270 and activate XMP so my i7 can turbo its 4 cores - will it reduce its life span in the long run? Also why is absolutely no one ever mentioning this?

>>59321237
did you get your motherboard from Amazon?
I get the feeling it's gonna be weeks before the next batch ships
I just cancelled my order and got one from Micro Center

>>59321400
I bought mine from ncix canada. It says the stock gonna be shipped on march 13th on the mobo page but I'm quite not sure if they will. Still wtf is wrong with the am4 mobos? Did their stocks sinked in the pacific after departing from China?

>>59321398
>Honestly that pic isn't really showing any noticeable differences
You must be blind

>will it reduce its life span in the long run
No

>Also why is absolutely no one ever mentioning this?
It's one of the finer points of "overclocking" features

212 evo or cryorig H7 for an i5 7600k?

>>59321457
the way I understand it is that AMD read the hype correctly and manufactured a shitload of CPUs, but all the motherboard manufacturers didn't
as a result there's a massive shortage of boards on the market
I preordered on the first day, CPU a day after launch, motherboard still hadn't by the time I cancelled the order yesterday
it's fucking nuts

>>59321515
CPU shipped a day after launch*

>>59321233
I've got a Cooler Master HAF912, fantastic case for the price if you can stand the ricey look (which is still relatively understated)
I helped a buddy set up a closed-circuit watercooling system a while back, setup was a pain but according to him maintenance isn't really an issue
why risk it though?
just get a high performance air cooler, less bullshit to worry about and still cheaper
logicalincrements doesn't recommend a single watercooler in any of their builds except for the ones with a 6950X, and even then the air coolers they suggest are much cheaper

If you're big on aesthetics, Corsair Dominator Platinum RAM is sexy af.

>>59321515
Yeah this is might be the issue. I will wait till the 13th to see if itwill be shipped but if its not shipped before the14th I'm cancelling and gonna wander somewhere else....

>>59321759
The special edition isthe way but way too expensive..

>>59321161
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HdVjhq
What I would personally do instead.

>>59321504
Either werks™. Choose which is cheaper.

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>it's been a month since I've been trying to decide what to buy
>everyone gives me different information
>still unsure
>still learning new shits that make me hesitate
Make it stop.

>>59321970
Bite the bullet.

anyone here managed to test a Wraith Spire vs a Hyper 212 Evo yet?
is it worth paying $7 for shipping on the upgrade kit?

>>59321970
>>59322006
but make sure you bite the best bullet for your needs

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>>59322027

>>59321638
thanks but a little too ricey and doesn't have a window
I was looking at the corsair 100r but the reviews say it can be a hassle to work around inside, so I'm not too sure anymore...

I can't believe these faggots who bought a GTX1080. Now that the 1080Ti benchmarks are out the 1080 is obviously barely faster than the 1070 and the 1080Ti is almost 30% faster than the 1080. Completely fucking moronic

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>>59322105
>tfw bought a 1070 FTW at black friday for $380

>>59322082
I have a 100r and you get quite some room inside. For the price of 40$ it's pretty good with its features.

>>59321970
Stop thinking you're making some fatal mistake by not buying "the right thing."

>>59322257
How would you say it holds up to this one?
https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-Mid-Tower-TESSERACT-SW/dp/B00NGCS7YA
The blue trim is kinda ricey but it seems good for the price

Is it ok to order in advance the more study parts of the build (RAM, HDD, SSD, case)? Like, the ones that are extremely unlikely to fail on you?

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>>59322357
>HDD
>extremely unlikely to fail

Why does it matter when you order what?

>>59322394
Because my pay day is on certain days and I would rather make small purchaces and one larger one rather than making one giant one.

>>59321759
Corsair is GOAT ram

I'm still on DDR2 from 2008

fight me

>>59322394
>>59322437
And I meant unlikely to fail as in to be DOA

>>59322437
You won't know whats DOA until you get everything set up unless its physically obvious. In my experience, I've only had mobos physically damaged and one HDD DOA.

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holy shit how crap is the built in heat spreader on this?

>all cores instantly heat up to 70C once loaded
>several seconds later one core reaches 80C so BIOS kicks fans into overdrive

I undervolted it so it doesn't go over 70 anymore, but fucking hell Intel, none of my previous CPUs did this

>>59321970
You need to ask yourself what your requirements are.

If you are gaming, the answer is 30-60FPS on High settings, which is basically a 470/480/1060 + G4560 or i5 7500

>http://www.logicalincrements.com

this is cool desu


A G4560 is good enough for general use and some video editing/source engine games, at 1080? Gpu is irrelevant as I'll upgrade that later on, don't ask what my current one is :^)

And do any of you fags know mice? How does a Zowie EC2A compare to a Rival 300?

>>59322292
The size and layout seems the pretty much the same but you get from the deepool 1 more optical bay and 3 sdd slots. Do you really need them?

>>59321970
Just keep absorbing opinions until you are the all knowing parts master

>>59322574
>all cores instantly heat up to 70C once loaded
that is within normal parameters, why be concerned ?

>>59322553
Well so far all I have is my RAM so I should be more or less ok I guess? I was planning on buying the GPU, CPU, mobo, PSU, and monitor all together but buying everything else in parts. How stupid is this? It's only three things so I figure I should be fine right?

>>59322586
>60-90 FPS Very Smooth

nvm lol

>>59322006
>>59322027
>>59322285
>>59322580
Out of all the answers I think I'll go with that one here >>59322636.

>>59322658
RAM is the least likely to fail.

Buy your GPU/Monitor last. GPUs especially since many of them are dropping in price as the month goes on

>>59322586
Get a 7600 for editing. Either that or Ryzen because lol cores.

>>59322686
This is exactly what I was thinking. Only other things left besides those 5 would be the HDD, SSD, and case, but I might just end up buying the case with the full package. How sound is buying the HDD and SSD seperate though?

>>59322640
I wouldn't have cared but
>several seconds later one core reaches 80C so BIOS kicks fans into overdrive
That is kind of really fucking annoying

>>59322687
Forgot to say my budget is literally like 250, I need a cpu mobo and ram

>G4560
>Corsair Veng DDR4 1x4gb 2400mhz
>MSI B250M Gaming Pro MicroATX
£200
>Mouse & pad
£250

y/n? most important to me is the socket which is upgradable and still fairly recent. I was gonna get am3+ but now with am4 ryzen out I guess that's dead

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>>59322836
>Mouse & pad
>£250

>>59322836
You can probably save a few bucks by getting a b250 board that doesn't include "gaming" in the name

>>59322742
Get the SSD first so you can install the OS on it. Unless you plan on downloading a lot of games, you should set the HDD as a lower priority.

>>59322867
Zowie EC2A & QCK

And forgot to mention the £250 includes a Hyper Evo 212.
Do they get too hot for the oem heatsink or whatever is offered? May remove the cooler if they don't.

>>59322910
Not sure if I wanna go with another cheap Gigabyte mobo, unless they've improved them for the modern socket types.

Are the MSI boards good? Specifically B150 '''''''''PC MATE''''''''' and Bazooka Plus. No overclocking in mind and don't need lots of slots or ports, just a well built board that works with minimal issues.

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>>59322920
Oh, I thought you meant extra £250 for mouse&pad alone.

You definitely don't need a fuckhuge cooler unless you want silence. I have a board with that same thin boxed cooler and a G630 on my desk right now and it keeps fairly quiet (<1600rpm) even under full load, and G4560 is rated for 11W less TDP.

>>59322993
Even Asrock is okay. There is always a chance for a DOA one, of course, but it's been years since I've heard about any manufacturer's boards being bad en masse.

I've used a cheapo MSI B85 board for a year or two and had no problems.

>>59323093
MSI's reviews on newegg look quite bad in that respect, but it may be newegg's fault or bad shipping, idk. Lots of DOA's for the B150m whatever i just looked up.

Asus looks decent, wide range of boards supporting baby lake out the box.

Guess I'll replace the MSI with >Asus PRIME B250M-A

>>59322911
What do you mean? Currently my plan is HHD, SSD, possibly case, then GPU, CPU, PSU, monitor, and mobo all together.

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I've been deciding on my next build and have now decided to either get the i7-7700 or its K counterpart. I do not plan on OCing my CPU and am fine simply running the stock values until said CPU dies of old age.

While I am aware that the 7700K version has higher clock speeds than the 7700 even without OCing it, it comes at a higher price (counting ventirad in). First choice was getting a 7700 and a B250 mobo, but upon digging a little more I got taught about I wouldn't get the full values of my 7700 on a mobo that does not support "XMP", "Turbo Mode would only activate for one core instead of all four".

>With a B250 you only get single core turbo, not all core turbo.

If true, why is it not something that is talked about more often?

>If you add an overclocking chipset motherboard, for another $40+, you can get another 5-10% processor frequency.

So you can get more out of your CPU depending on which mobo you get? If so, should I be avoiding B250 boards and get a Z270 one? Would a H270 do the trick as well or is it no good either?

The idea of getting a 7700K and putting it on a B250 was also something I envisaged, but this "XML Turbo Mode available for all cores" problem remains the same whether it's K or not.

If I were to be "forced" to pick a Z270 board then I believe it would be kind of a nobrainer here to simply go with the 7700K anyway and a good cooler I believe, since the main point of getting the 7700 was reduce the overall cost of the build by getting a B250 and not having to pay for a ventirad since it comes with one.

On the topic of the 7700's stock ventirad by the way, I read this :

>insanely noisy at load and very quick to rev up even when doing basic things like downloading Steam games [...] it can't manage to get the CPU much under 80C.

Isn't it just straight shitty then? It wouldn't sit right with me to buy a 7700 if I on top of that had to buy a good cooler for it... in that case there is absolutely no point and 7700K would be the way to go.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rFs9BP
what can you recommend

>>59323917
No one will answer you because no one knows shit about hardware here. People are just recommending what they bought to feel better about themselves.

>>59321020
what cpu fan do you have?

>>59323917
>K intel cpu

100% a Z board

>>59324217
You totally convinced me there.

>>59323917
>>59324217
oh and you got to buy an aftermarket cooler for any half decent cpu

get noctua anything

CAUTION: AUSTRALIAN MONOPOLY MONEY

You almost made me embarrass myself.

>>59311868
I mean nothing wrong. If you got the money go for it. Looks good to me save for a few bits. I assume with a cooler like that you plan on overclocking a bit (otherwise I would honestly just go for a decent air cooler) so if you are overclocking I would maybe get the gaming K7 or another board with dedicated bclk chip

Also if you need 32gb RAM go for 2X16 rather than 4X8. You'll be more likely to hit that 3200. With 4 DIMMs probably not gonna happen. Make sure your RAM has low latency too since it looks like you have the cash you should make sure your RAM is good stuff.


So answer the overclock question for yourself and respond accordingly and make sure your RAM is quick.

>>59323917
Gonna need some sauce for that. I haven't heard anything about turbo working differently between B250 and Z270.

And iirc XMP is about memory overclocking.

>>59323917
>insanely noisy at load and very quick to rev up even when doing basic things like downloading Steam games [...] it can't manage to get the CPU much under 80C.

It's more of a problem with the thermal interface between the CPU silicon and the heat spreader plate than with the cooler. 6700/7700 will heat up to 60+ with literally any cooler except liquid nitrogen unless the thermal interface is replaced (which is risky and voids warranty)

Also, how quickly the fan revs up with temperature depends entirely on the motherboard, not on the fan.

>>59324267
That guy here >>59321249 for example.
>With a B250 you only get single core turbo, not all core turbo.

I'm googling but I can't find the source of this, so until proven he's just pulling this out of his ass it seems.

>>59324267
Here too >>59319901 though that might be the same guy.
>Automatic, but you can get an all core turbo if you have a Z270 or a flashed Z170 by activating XMP in BIOS

>>59315086
Bump for help. NVidia said something about updating their 1080s? So maybe I should wait for one of those?

Or should I just get the ti and be happy with that?

Anyone know anything about Deepcool UF 140 case fans ? They seem to be ~12$, but I can get them for 3 euros each and was wondering if maybe I should use them to change my Fractal Design X2-GP-12 that came with my Mini C case

>>59324347
>>59324388
XMP stands for eXtended/eXtreme Memory Profile. It's extra SPD data in memory modules that has settings beyond standard frequencies and timings.
How the hell is this tied to processor turbo I don't know.

>>59324023
any one?

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-3025047/xmp-profile-turns-cpu-turbo-boost.html
>the xmp profile increases your base clock on the cpu.

Lots of infos here too : https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/578063-xmp-profile-turns-on-cpu-turbo-boost/
>When xmp is enabled it increases the CPU strap to 125mhz and that is why your CPU is running at turbo boost clocks. Not sure if it has anything to do with it but, not to long ago, I had to do a x99 build and I got some Kingston hyper x ram and a 5820k. The ram is 2666mhz and CPU stock is 3.3ghz. When I enable xmp, I was expecting the CPU strap to jump to 125mHz and CPU to run at turbo clocks, but it did not. CPU strap is at 100mhz, CPU is at stock, and the ram has xmp enabled, running at 2666mhz, and turbo only kicks in when I did some CPU benchmarks. So I took at the ram and saw they run at the standard ddr4 1.2v. Maybe it's this that helps the CPU not run at turbo clocks, when xmp is enabled.

>>59324476
Not sure I understand either. I googled the B250 and it does seem like it'll activate the Turbo Mode normally for i7 processors... so I'm not sure what the hell was anon on earlier.

https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B250-PLUS/specifications/
>Supports Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0

>>59324023
Literally no reason to buy that i3 when G4560 is available.

Also go for dual channel memory.

>>59324447
Fuck it even looks like a possibility to replace my 212 evo fan too, they're fucking cheap and seem to be kind of silent with a lot of airflow

>>59324554
should i over clock it

Does audio codec (I.e. alc887 vs alc1127) make any noticeable difference? Is intel lan better than realtek? And are USB 3.1 gen 2 ports worth having?

Trying to pick out a mobo for my G4560. All the B250s are kinda meh.

Is m-itx form factor a meme or is it actually nice to work with

>>59324552
>So, in the case of the Core i5 7600K we're reviewing here, base and turbo clocks receive a significant uplift - run the chip on a Z170 or Z270 board, hit the XMP button in the BIOS and you'll have a processor running at 4.2GHz on all four cores with zero effort required. 'Enhanced Turbo' is part and parcel of XMP memory overclocking on all enthusiast boards these days.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-core-i5-7600k-review

Note that he mentions a Z170 because he had to update the BIOS to run a Kaby Lake CPU. The updated BIOS will also provide to all core turbo to Skylake CPUs

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>>59311701
My current build excluding storage and the peripherals.Didn't buy all at once just added to it over time

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>>59324476
>Extended memory profile
Are you the guy who was talking about "Extreme ATX" yesterday
That shit was gold

>>59324413
>>59315086
GTX1070

>>59324499
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MzWND8
Cheaper and better

>>59312459
Want cheaper power for ML? Get PS3 and make a cluster

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zWKfGf

Already brought everything but the Cpu and Gpu and added two more fans. Is there anything wrong or that I could have improved on?

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>AMD FX-8350 bottlenecked at the 960
>ASRock 970A-G/3.1 mobo

I'm going to stick with AMD for now since I don't want to change out my motherboard unless I absolutely have to but with this motherboard, what's the next best AMD cpu I should (or can...) upgrade to? I have a GTX 1060 (3gb vram).

>>59325153
The FX8350 is a great match up with the 1060 in most games. There is no better CPU on the AM3+ socket

>>59325071
Need SSD and either GTX 1070 or 1080Ti

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>>59325186
>The FX8350 is a great match up with the 1060 in most games
Why am I getting stuttering though? Do you think it's the DDR3 ram?

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>>59325186
literally everything on that socket is shit, just upgrade the motherboard too, you'll likely gain some new performance features/compatibility as well

>>59325186
Is a Evga 1080 isn't good and I should go to 1070? Save more money? And I have the SSD at home already :D

>>59325222
Well can you give me a precise list of things to upgrade and what I should upgrade to.

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has anyone built the 'modest gaming build' on pcpartpicker? for $1000 in canabucks it seems pretty decent, even has an rx 480
this would be my first nonprebuilt

>>59324865
>hit the XMP button in the BIOS and you'll have a processor running at 4.2GHz on all four cores with zero effort required. 'Enhanced Turbo' is part and parcel of XMP memory overclocking on all enthusiast boards these days.
Interesting, thanks for digging that out. Googling "Enhanced Turbo" I got to find some more information about this whole thing and this is apparently what anon meant earlier.
>"Enhanced Turbo allows all cores to run at the single core turbo."

>>Z series chipsets have an "Enhanced Turbo" under XMP, which allows all cores to run at the highest single core boost clockspeed (works for Skylake CPUs as well)

So with all that said... is it even worth it? Won't that put more strain on my future i7-7700(K)? I wouldn't want to damage or reduce its life span, especially if base clock is enough for anything I might be doing. Z270 boards are quite expensive still.

>>59325269
Depends on your money and what you plan to do with it, are you just gaymen at 1080p and not worried about heavy multitasking (i3, i5)? Are you just trying to get the best frames you can for the cheapest price (G4560)? Are you considering streaming games or doing more predictable/productive heavy workloads (Ryzen 7 (the current one), i7)?

>>59325361
I just like playing videogames at 1080p max settings with 60fps. Sometimes I record and edit gaming videos and upload them to my youtube but that's it. It's literally my anime watching and videogaming machine.

With that knowledge, where do I go from here with those specs of mine.

>>59324874
Anyone r8?

How much money would I save if I buy my components on black friday?
The cost is around $800.

>>59325397
I mean if you're coming from an 8350 and intending to play games, you can't really make a wrong choice with anything Skylake or Kaby lake, or ryzen if you have the money, 60fps games aren't too demanding on your CPU
Depending on the price, I might get a 6500 and a Z170 motherboard to overclock it slightly. Or if you can find a G4560 in stock, it's a powerful gaymen CPU for under $100
I have a 6600k, it holds up games easily up to 144fps, but can't do something like stream my games at the same time. I think it's overkill for most 60fps games

>>59325463
If it's anything like every other Black Friday, there's much better deals months before it happens, everything seemed to mysteriously stop being on sale shortly before Black Friday

>>59325514
Thanks for your help. Anything in particular though? You listed a bunch of things. I have 500$ to spend on this.

So is b370 better to get than the x370?

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>>59324554

>>59325317
pls help

Is DX 12 CPU intensive?

I just ordered a GTX 1060 and I have an i5-6600 3.30Ghz, I'm wondering how well DX 12 settings will work for me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-Desktop-Core-i7-3770-Quad-Core-3-4GHz-16GB-Ram-500GB-HDD-Win10-Pro-/152466155844?hash=item237fb0e944:g:acEAAOSw2gxYwYRQ


http://www.ebay.com/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-980Ti-6GB-XTREME-GAMING-OC-EDITION-/252805743190?hash=item3adc658256:g:zLcAAOSwax5Yweb7

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7HN50J9878

some cheap 30 dollar ssd


should i do it? anyone have anything better?

budget is 650

If I'm only interested in gaming performance, an i5 7600k over an i7 7700k is the smarter buy, right?

What's getting me confused is when I see gaming benchmarks and in most games the i7 is beating the i5 by 20+ fps consistently...

But from what I've gathered, they use Titan XPs for the benchmark whereas I'm using a gtx970. I'm guessing because my GPU will be the bottleneck, an i5 will perform the same as an i7 in my case?

Then when I upgrade GPU in like 3 years the i5 will be bottlenecking and the i7 will still be performing comfortably. Fuck... i5 or i7?

>>59326163
I got an i7700k up from an i5 6600k and I'm consistently getting more frames. When I ran the 3D mark test I was getting 2.5 times more frames for the physics stuff. Playing wow I'm getting 60fps in org at 3440x1440 up from around 30-35

>>59326163
I've been pondering over my own build myself for weeks and got helped a lot in these threads so I'll help you out anon, from what I've gathered so far :

RIGHT NOW an i5-7600(K) can run all games pretty much perfectly, sure, but it won't age as well an i7-7700(K) because the i7 "virtually has 8 cores" (hyperthreading, 8 threads) and potentially more and more games will make use of those in the next 3-5 years. Thus the i7 will age much better than the i5.

BF1 at the moment makes full use of hyperthreading for example, the i7 does much better than i5.

I haven't ordered parts yet but I know I'll go i7 and never look back now, I'm ready to put 100 more bucks into my CPU and for sure never regret it. I have a feeling there has been way too much i5 parroting around... which then made more and more people buy i5 and thus tell others how i5 can do anything, because obviously they want to feel good about themselves. Of course i5 is still great, but think for the long run.

>>59326210
>>59326219
i7 CONFIRMED
thanks bros

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>>59326247
If you got the cash that's pretty much my whole build

If I got a $499 6850K and a $329 X99 Classified on black friday, what do you think of that now? I'm kind of remorseful for not waiting to build a maxed out 7700K.

>>59326676
Pretty sweet, but I can't seem to bring myself to spend that much on a GPU.

>>59325344
>Won't that put more strain on my future i7-7700(K)
No

>>59325208
Not sure, I have a 6350 and a 470 and I don't get stuttering

>>59325222
If he already has an 8350 no point in upgrading right now while the CPU market is in flux

>>59325253
Yeah the 1080 isn't worth it. Might be a little better on a price/perf basis now that the price got dropped

>>59326708
Wrekt by Ryzen, but enjoy. It'll last you a hell of a long time

>>59326676

it would be fun to have but not really "worth" the money

>>59326676

that monitor is honestly heinous

I would unironically rather have a cheaper nice 27 non curved monitor even if price was no consideration, 32 is too big and curved is a meme

>>59327205
It's actually 34, and frankly playing open world games like TW3 is amazing on it. I've got 144hz 27 for twitch shooters

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Is there a huge increase in performance if I'm upgrading my 4690k to 1700? My current 4690k is just base windows installed and I'm planning to kvm windows inside debian with 1700

I'm sorry for the painfully stupid question, but can I update geforce drivers through some automated process like in the past, without needing to sign up for another account I don't need (geforce experience)?

If not, I'll just keep downloading my monthly 300mbs of bloat from the site

Can I build a computer but not put a GPU if I'm too poor to buy one now?

The CPU has a graphic card built in anyway right?

>>59327802
>The CPU has a graphic card built in anyway right?

the motherboard does, yes

>>59327955
>>59327802
Depending on which chipset you get.

All Intel CPUs to my knowledge have integrated graphics (albeit not so great). Whereas AMD's current APUs have better built in graphics but fall short of the Intel chips in raw performance.

So the decision is how long are you going to be using it? If it's for a long time, you may benefit from AMD's generally better graphics. If you plan on getting a GPU sooner than later, you're better off with Intel.

That is assuming that you must have onboard graphics which your question implies that you do.

do they still sell Windows 7 keys, I'm tempted to 'buy' one, but you can talk me out of it.

>>59328306

The 1700-1800 don't have integrated graphics?

Is the whole Gsync 144Hz monitors worth it if I don't really play fps or fast paced games? I have a 1080p 60Hz monitor and I want to upgrade but I'm not sure whether I should just go with 4k/60Hz or 1440p/144Hz

I bought a 6600k a week ago on Newegg thinking I'd gotten a good deal. Right after it shipped, I realized the 7600k was only $10 more, but I couldn't return it because it was sold under a replacement only return policy. I've OCed it to 4.5 GHz and still never seen it break 45 C.

I don't do much processor-intensive stuff and I haven't had any issues, but I could easily afford an i7, and it's hard to know what I'm missing without having tried it. There's a decent used i5 resale market - I'd take a hit but not a bath.

What do?

I'm looking to make an upgrade from my Hyper 212 EVO. With a budget of $100 US, what would be the best price/perf air cooler that I could go for? I don't want to mess around with AIOs, personally.

>>59320954

No one?

I'm looking at around $500 for an upgrade.

>>59329401
It wouldn't be a bad idea to upgrade the cpu+mobo+ram(ddr4), to what is up to you.

>>59329454

No need for another rig then? I mean cpu/mobo/ram is most of it, but still cheaper than full.

The 290x is still a good enough card without a crossfire?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nsPjhq
I don't know what I'm doing.

>>59329518
Change the EVGA card for a different one. Despite the great warranty the cards have had severe issues this time around.
Do you absolutely need an optical drive? External drives are a better option to have these days because of the lack of usage.
A smaller SSD with an HDD paired with it would be better than a large SSD if you only use your system for normal/gayming tasks.

Any suggestions for a monitor? Was thinking (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hqmxFT/aoc-monitor-g2260vwq6) but its out of stock. So I was gonna get the (https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WBw323/asus-monitor-vx228h) but I have no idea how good that is. Can anyone give me some help?

fuck me right in the asshole, im about to actually buy my new pc, any thoughts before i check out?

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/GP2HQV

all parts are intentionally from Amazon.de, so pricing might be a bit weird.

i dont really have any worries about any of the parts, just figured i'd post one last time before i spend my money.