/pcbg/ - PC Building General: Proper Edition

First for reposting my build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XKWQgL

>>59296905
Do you want to go full amd or do you really want the rx 480?

Building this for my brother's friend:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3MnB9W

Seem alright for $760?

>>59296841
Is there a way of connecting a VGA monitor to a GTX 1060?

I want to upgrade but I don't want to lose my dual monitors...

>>59296974
>Building this for my brother's friend:
yeah, sure...

>>59296972
When looking at the benchmarks I saw that the 480 more or less had the same performance as the 1060 6GB for less so I decided to go with that. Depending on when R5 comes out I might get that and a B350 mobo. But for now I'm just gonna plan on getting an i5

>>59296999
There's adapters for that

>>59297029
are you the guy that already bought his ram?

>>59296999
Yes buy a cheap dvi to vga adapter or hdmi to vga one for like $5.

>>59296974
You can get a prebuilt way cheaper and just add a gpu later

>>59296974
You can pirate windows and save $100 then use that to get a better CPU. Drop the Z-series mobo if you aren't planning on overclocking and get 2 sticks of 4GB RAM for dual channel. Get a better case as well (Corsair and Phanteks are pretty good brands).

>>59297030
I can't seem to find one for a decent price.

My new card would only have 1 HDMI and two DVI-D ports and I can't find a VGA to DVI-D adapter that says it works and isn't ridiculously expensive.

What would you recommend as a cheap air cooler that's better than stock for a 7600K on a slight overclock?

I just need something to hold me over for a while I save up enough money to build a water loop, so I don't want to splurge on a D15 or anything crazy.

>>59297045
Who? That's a great many people so you're gonna have to specify.

>>59297091
Literally 212 evo or Cryorig H7

>>59297091
>slight overclock
You probably shouldn't even bother. Just set it back to stock speed. You need to run an 10-20% overclock to get any noticeable benefit from it, otherwise you're just stressing your parts for no reason.

>>59297091
deepcool gamaxxx is the GOAT cheap air cooler and it's performance is great.
don't listen to 212 kiddies

>>59297156
I mean I'm going to slightly OC it on air then go balls to the wall when I put it on water,

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/
lemme know what i'm doing wrong

>>59297210
Just keep it on stock clocks and cooler until you get the liquid aio then. Skip the slight overclock

>>59297222
Well, first of all, you're not linking properly.

>>59297222
Well to start, you can post the correct link.

>>59297108
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YLv9BP
here you go faggot, got rid of all the shit you dont need.

buy cheapest shit from microcenter/ebay.

>>59297222
>lemme know what i'm doing wrong
The link

>the board I want still isn't in stock
>already bought the CPU for it
Fug

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Looking forward to re-plumbing it this weekend.

>>59297301
I think you are replying to the wrong person.

>>59297301
edit: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jzbPcc

>>59297242
Intel K models don't come with coolers, Rajeet. That's probably why he has to buy one and understandably doesn't want stock garbage.

>>59297355
I have the same psu

>>59296905
>>59297369
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jzbPcc
im not

>>59297355
>radiator on bottom blowing air into 1/4" clearance above floor

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xhnRRG
USA

Going to get a 1080 ti as well.

Also rate monitor.

>>59297412
u sure u have enough fans m8?

>>59297377
The way he phrased his question made me assume that he was already running a 7600k with some sort of cooler.

>>59297387
>K-series CPU with no cooler
>MicroATX mobo
>120GB SSD
>1080 at that budget
>no monitor
This isn't help at all.

>>59297440
literally none of that is wrong.

its a 5x better system than what you build for the same price at stock speeds.

>>59297412
What does that stuff taste like?

>>59297383

It's a good PSU

>>59297401

Actually, it draws air in on the bottom and blows it out the rear. There's also a good 3/4" clearance, and a dust screen, so it's fine.

>>59297461
>it draws air in on the bottom and blows it out the rear.
enjoy dust everywhere then even with a filter.

>>59297429
2 for front, 2 for radi 1 140 for the back.

>>59297455
Once you use it, you never go back. Its a lot worse for you, its got a lot more egg in it.

Airflow question:
If my case has 120mm fans, should by cooler also have 120mm fans? I'm thinking if the cooler is 140mm and has more airflow than the exhaust fan, that will create pressure and cause some of the hot air to spread around the case. Is this correct? Should I select a cooler with 120mm fans?

>>59297478

I've been running it this way since the beginning of December. I cleaned the intake filters once. They weren't even been that dirty. It took 30 seconds each. There's not a spot of dust inside the case, because I set it up for positive pressure.

Also, I misspoke. The PSU draws air in the bottom and exhausts it through the rear. The main cooling has intake through the radiator on the bottom, and fans in the front. There is exhaust at the rear, and through the rad at the top blowing up.

>>59297542
im 100% sure ur lying m8.

keep being a retard if u want.

>>59297517
No, the cooler fans will be static pressure, the main job for those fans is to simply "move" hot air that is "radiating" off of the radiator/heatsink. Unless you have those swapped out for high airflow fans already then idk but it shouldn't be a big deal

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>>59297568

You caught me m8, I'm totally lying. I've never seen so much dust in my life.

It's too bad my house is such a filthy shithole that I have constant dust issues.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RQkQgL

any advice on this? not sure exactly how many fans to go after since you can move some around in the case.

>>59297699
Sauce now

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>>59297412
Anymore critiques?

>>59297412
>Platinum PSU
>Extra $60 to save $5 a year

>>59297723

/g/

>>59297701
just air cool my nigga

>>59297701
Why not a 7700K?
Seems great otherwise.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WZLQgL
some1 r8

>>59296841
Should I get the Asus Z170 motherboard? Would anyone else recommend it?

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>>59297746
>Hawaii's electricity price of $0.37 per kilowatt-hour equates to a $334 monthly electricity bill for the average consumer, according to calculations based on EIA data. That comes out to more than $4,000 per year spent on electricity.

living in Hawaii has its cons too, all efficiency I can take, I will.

>>59297837
Why don't you faggots have solar yet?

Buy some fucking panels.

>>59297701
yeah, you can fit all that crap in a case half the size.

>>59297845
My island has some nigger politicians that have all these clauses in which I cannot get solar in my area because its too saturated, basically niggering the monopoly of power in hawaii.

>>59297701
you can fit a 7700k and 1080 in that price range thanks to the new price cuts.

>>59297837
Damn that's rough.

>>59297816
You cpu already comes with a stock cooler.

>>59297860
You could be a non-faggot and post the situation on reddit to get people on your side.

You could also not be an autist and talk to your neighbors and vote those niggers out .

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qdxmBP
looking for some last minute suggestions on this g4560 build. my budget is 450-500. i'm pretty confident in this build, and now that the rx470 promo is back in stock at newegg, i'm in business. either way, i'd like some input on what i can fine tune

>>59297816
Just buy a laptop lol. None of those components are impressive enough to warrant a desktop configuration

>>59297882
laptops are more expensive tho

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Hello Friendos

Plan on getting me a RX 480 in a day or so, But im not sure which model i should get, any ideas?
Im looking for one with the most overall perfomance

>>59297872

lol, you have no idea how Hawaii works, it's a good old boy system with politics here. It's insane how little things change.

I really could give a shit talking to people, it sucks and we deal with it.

>>59297914
>lol, you have no idea how Hawaii works
>translation: im too much of a faggot to do anything

enjoy nigger.

>>59297902
>Plan on getting me a RX 480 in a day or so, But im not sure which model i should get, any ideas?
>Im looking for one with the most overall perfomance
What did he mean by this?

>>59297918
We are moving away from the point. Its expensive to live here and that's it. I am too much of a faggot to care about wasting my time trying to change something that isn't feasibly changeable. I'll just deal with it how it lays.

>>59297902
rx 470 and OC it to the moon bby

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tNJq9W
Suggestions?

>>59297816
you could swap out the i3 for a g4560 pentium, it comes with its own cooler. I would not trust rosewill to make a quality product, let alone a psu.

>>59297956
Upgrade the i5 to an i7 and get a kraken aio. Otherwise nice build

>>59297947
Just OCed my (new) 6600k to 4.5 Ghz and it's hardly affecting temps at all. I didn't have anyone else to tell.

>>59297746
What is the best performance-for-dollar 80Plus tier, then?

I know most builds are for gaymen but I want to build a slick machine for home labs in preparation for Cisco and Linux certs.

Does anyone have any advice for these kinds of builds?

>>59298091
Titanium isn't it?

Bout to pull the trigger on this bad bitch
http://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Flist%2Fg8VvYr

>>59297746
Generates a lot less heat.

>>59298091
Bronze

>>59298106
That's top tier. Nice

>>59298091
Sorry, I didn't know you lived in Hawaii, so it's more justified then. Still, you could get an 80+ gold for 30-40 dollars cheaper with the same wattage. Platinum is only marginally better than gold anyways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

>>59298106
Nex PSU is trash, get G2. Almost the same price.

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Who wants to hold my hand some more and walk me through deciding between a $206 RX 480 and a $243 GTX 1060 6GB.

I'd much rather an Nvidia card. Looking at my speccy and the fact that I only have one monitor, 1080p 60Hz, I can't tell which would be better.

I know I'm retarded okay, just someone please help me with this.

>>59298247
Both are similar performance wise, if you prefer the nvidia card then go for it

>>59298247
6GB 1060 is noticeably better.

>>59298366
You are objectively wrong though.

>>59298188
That wasn't me

Sounds good, any other critiques on my build?

>>59297902
Get the XFX card. Its pretty basic but it runs cool and quiet. When I built my rig I got the Sapphire card because of its higher clock and good looks but the fans are loud as hell and the fan curves were awful. Also the XFX card is cheaper, my brother loves it.

>>59298366
>>59298415
Which one of you is telling the truth?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Xx8tsJ
R8/H8
Under $410

>>59298599
What is its purpose?

>>59298599
Garbage meme fan. Get something that's actually good like a BeQuiet or Noctua fan.

what's the difference between having 2 sticks of 8gb RAM and 4 sticks of 4gb RAM?

>>59298545
Just do some research and look at recent benchmarks then decide for yourself. Don't let others tell you which is better.

>>59298639
quad channel vs dual channel

>>59298637
Nice bait. Made me reply

>>59298668
It's a stock fan that comes with three hula-hoops. It's shit.

>>59298685
Dude stop lmao

>>59298647
I'm not smart enough to use reviews to decide. I'm not an enthusiast, I'm just someone looking to upgrade. I just want a solid 60FPS in most games on High/Ultra, I hate dipping below FPS. Beyond that I don't know a lot of the technobabble that goes along with it.

>>59298777
Tbqh either one is a solid choice, very comparable performance across many game. It comes down to personal preference at this point

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BN9HQV

I'm building a gaming rig, saving some money up front but allowing me to upgrade CPU, RAM, GPU, and PSU slowly over the coming years. I believe this platform will carry me many years into the future as a very capable gaming pc.

>>59298777
What this anon (>>59298804) said. Both cards are in incredibly similar in performance and ultimately comes down to which is cheaper/if you have brand loyalty. Just choose whichever one fits your budget and you should be fine. Aesthetic also plays into it but that's negligible at this point honestly.

>>59298716
If you're willing to spend 17 bucks on a case fan, you'd be willing to spend three more bucks to get something that has a quality bearing and not sleeve shit.

>>59298838
You are overpaying for your mobo. Also, get the 850, it's the same size as your 960 SSD but cheaper. Be wary of the 3TB Seagate HDDs, as they are notorious for having high failure rates. You are also overpaying for your GPU, get an MSI or Gigabyte 1060 if you must. Unless it's a deal breaker, 24" should be fine for a monitor. You could even get 144hz for roughly $100 cheaper.

>>59298838
Not bad

>>59298639

Nothing, but if you two sticks you leave two DIMM slots open for expansion later on.

Don't listen to this moron: >>59298665. He doesn't know what he's talking about. Quad channel is only available on the X99 platform (and some older platforms like X79). The number of DIMM slots a motherboard has does not determine the number of memory channels. Using four sticks on a dual channel board does not put them in quad channel, it just means each channel has two sticks instead of one.

>>59297078
Is that kingwin site legit? You can get win10 for 40 buckaroos.

>>59299076
I honestly have never used kingwin but I have used sites like it (G2G) and they have worked for me so I doubt it would be any different.

>>59299076
>>59299091
Reminder that they probably use stolen credit cards to buy copies of windows to sell to you

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New to SSD's and have a quick question

I'm looking for something pretty low cost, probably around 250gb hopefully, and a low failure rate (not as much a problem for SSD's I hear)

I just want a drive to boot my main OS from fast, I don't need much space on it for other things and I hear that SSD's are very superior in terms of speed

Probably something from Amazon if possible as I have Prime for 2-day free shipping or newegg if there is a good deal

Im thinking a Samsung brand SSD, I just recognize them more than other brands I keep seeing

>>59299091
What exactly is the issue if not a moral one to buying massively discounted software because it has been acquired via stolen card?

>>59299402
It pretty much is only a moral one. You're spending money stolen from regular dipshits instead of counterfeiting a digital product from a company known for fuckery.

>>59299340
>Im thinking a Samsung brand SSD
Yep

>>59299460
Are they pretty reliable? I think the 250GB is in my price range, its about $97

I see a WD for $90 though, I can drop 7 extra for the Samsung if its really better, both have good reviews

Here's my current build:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tfRW6X

How well am I for upcoming shit? I'm particularly worried about Mass Effect, but I want to improve. This rig is pushing 4 years old this year, though the Sapphire is new last year. My Processor is pretty much shit at this point, and I more or less regret buying that one because I'm no good at overclocking.

Any advice here?

The 1000 series just dropped a bit more today.

tell me how bad i fucked up
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NkBVHN

How do any of the current i5 CPUs compare to the i7 3770?

>>59301441

Get 2 8GB sticks of RAM. Why would you run single channel?

>you will never get this value for money ever again

Just fucking kill me. I want to upgrade even though I barely have a reason to. I just dont feel like a build for a similar price would last as long as my current one has. Only thing I've replaced so far is the GPU.

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>>59301784
Forgot pic

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/29gghq

Heres my build so far, Idk about gpu and im thinking of one of these cases

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/624430/PrimoChill-Praxis-WetBench-WhiteBlack

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/622117/Thermaltake-Core-X31-Black-Mid-Tower-Case-w-Side-Panel-Window

Ill mainly use if for drawing but i want to get into development of android apps or games or something. Idk and im just procrastinating.

Can ryzen even emulate arm properly? i remember the fx series couldnt on windows.

>>59301824
this was so cancerous for computers and pc gaming, im glad nothing like this exsists anymore

>>59301863
I'm glad my purchase wasn't made obsolete the year after desu.

>>59301949
the only time this happens is when progress is made. Thats been true for the last decade

>>59300157
You better yarr harr that game bro, that's all I'm going to say.

>>59299076
>paying middlemen to be a product sold to ad companies

>>59301974

S'what I did for ME3, but what about the comp?

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I have a fx 6300
I want to overclock it to make video rendering faster. Will it make any real difference? What cheap and good cooler should I get for it?

I want a low-budget rig for video editing that i can upgrade relatively painlessly with time. I'd prefer to stay around 1000€, monitor not included.
https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/8pXQgL

How does this look?

Current parts bought:

i7 7700k intel Cpu
Z270-AR Motherboard
Hyper 212 LED Cpu Cooler Fan
NZXT H440 Black/Red Mid Tower case.

Rest of the list
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qsPHQV

This my first build so my friend helped me out with the list (This build is for Gaming btw). Also I already have the listed monitor just need a power cord and have it tested to see if it works. Other than that it's coming along nicely and should have everything within a couple months.

Difference between ATX and miniATX are the RAM (and other stuff) slots available right? Even if the graphic card is really big I can still plug it to a miniATX mobo?

It's for a build that'll look like this https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YK6tsJ (you can rate if you want - I'll probably get a 128GB SSD)

I wonder if I shouldn't get a miniATX board and put 2x8GB RAM or just get an ATX and stay at 2x4GB RAM for now and uprade sometime in the future.
Also, is 650W overkill? Should I just get 500W?

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>>59296841
noob here, what are your thoughts on GPU's that don't need a a connection to the power supply? i'm thinking of getting this 1050 ti which will go straight into my mobo (gigabyte 78-lmt) and be playable, but the fact that it won't be connected via pci-e creeps me out, is it OK?

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>>59298541
Not him but in Europe here the XFX is sort of expensive, on the other hand the MSi GAMING X is the cheapest one although I heard people on /g/ saying it was the best.

Should I get the MSi one then?

>>59297902

I just bought the NITRO + version from Sapphire.

It runs pretty well but OC potential is very low

>>59302469
Also note I may get a different keyboard for atleast somewhere around between 50$ and 100$

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2P2y9W

How much do you think a computer with these specs should sell for?

That is an overkill powersupply. If I build a new computer should I use that old powersupply in my new build and put a new, cheaper PSU in the old build?
Or should I keep the old PSU with the old computer and buy a new PSU for my new computer?


My next question is about noise / sound level.
HAF932 is open so I can hear the internals well. But, HAF932 has large fans that spin slowly and don't make much noise.

I want to make my new computer as quiet as possible.
Should I stick with the HAF or should I get a case known for being quiet?

Is my i3 6100 4.6GHz bottlenecking my RX 470? How can I tell?

>>59302511
Nothing wrong with it, the slot supplies enough power for a low power card. I'm impressed how well they perform, honestly. No-pin GPUs are perfect for upgrading prebuilts with sketchy PSUs.

If I'm trying to keep my budget lower with an RX480 would getting an i5 7500 for my CPU suffice?

>>59302944
yes

Here's my current system:
>i7-870
>Asus P7P55D-E PRO
>2x4GB ADATA XPG DDR3 1600, CL 9-9-9-24, 1.55-1.75V
I want to get another 8GB, sadly my RAM isn't sold anymore, so i got cheap Crucial RAM on sale:
>2x4GB Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3 1600, CL 9-9-9-24, 1.5V
My problem is that when i try to boot with the new RAM installed it won't even POST. That DRAM_OV switch thing is set to right position, meaning it should be off.
The RAM is installed correctly, i already tried the MEM OK thing on the Asus mobo and BIOS reset, nothing works.
Am i missing something or is are the two RAM variants simply not compatible and i'm a retard for thworing my shekels at the merchant? Is it 1.5V vs 1.55-1.75V causing the problem?

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

Is the price difference worth it?
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB $177.92
Crucial MX300 525GB $149.99

>>59303192
Yes, the 850 EVO is a much better SSD.

>>59303000
thx bby
nice trips

>>59301460
They have about the same or slightly better multithreaded performance and 30-35% better single threaded performance (higher IPC and higher stock clocks).

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Is there a site like CPU boss but not a broken ass mess

What brand should I am for regarding HDDs?

Western Digital? Seagate? Toshiba?

Please answer >>59302472 if possible.

>>59303300

HGST or Assmung

>>59303297

Also what's the AMD board partner equivalent to EVGA or old school companies like BFG Tech that have good support and warranties

I'm looking to get a 1080ti and upgrading my monitor to something above 1080p but not 4K

Will my 4770k bottleneck that card? Should I bite the 7700k?

>>59302944
>RX480 would getting an i5 7500 for my CPU suffice
considering you gave no indication of what your use is, sure.

>light gaming
>""school work""
>idk photoshop

>>59303192
>>59303223
>25gb more
>$30 cheaper
There's literally no speed difference between modern SSDs except in benchmarks of course. The only reason I'd consider the 850 evo is because it can probably handle more writes.

>>59303292
I see, thanks f4m

>pls respond
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BYgghq

ryzen master race

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=9AVZ_x64hg4

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>>59296841
I have a GTX 660. weak I know but i've been waiting a bit to upgrade.
i was thinking about grabbing a ryzen processor and a gtx 980 to game on overwatch(on high fps), program, and 3d model thru autodesk inventor.

?

>>59303297

don't use any sites that are like cpuboss/gpuboss, they are shit and paid shills

>>59303343

all board partners are the fucking same, the only difference between all of them is cooler and warranty, don't get memed into buying evga or anything, do your research and come to your own conclusion

ps. evga is not the best, galax is, they just don't have better marketing

xfx has good cooling and good warranty (example: xfx rx 480 gtr)

>>59303381
Ryzen is the smarter choice. Why on earth would you get a 4 core when you can get an 8 core for the same price? Don't even say games cause that's bullshit that setup will get 100+ fps in anything.

At that price point the 1700 is the only CPU anyone should even be considering.

There's no logic to gimping yourself with 4 cores.

>>59303464
Because those 8 cores perform like shit compared to fewer Intel cores. Not many applications you use or can afford make use of over 4 cores/ threads anyway. Are you really going to drop $15k on Maya or however much it costs now?

any last minute changes i should do to this budget g4560 build? (budget: 450-500)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qdxmBP
it's my first time getting a pc and i wanna be absolutely sure before i get everything

>>59303464
I chose intel because intel is cheaper and performs better

>>59297091
don't even get a 212, get a Hyper t4, it's just as good but smaller.

>>59303503
ignore the shitposter

ryzen is on par and in non gaming cases outperforms intels best. then comparing it to the low end we see it beats the same cost cpu and is 8 core 16 thread

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>>59303503
If all you care about is 2017 maybe.

You'll be sorry in 2020.

>>59303596
No i wont

>>59303507
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/n22df8
SSD is optional but if you can stretch your budget a little it's a good buy.

>>59303552
I chose intel because intel is cheaper and performs better

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So now that Ryzen has let us all down, I need to decide whether or not to wait for Cannonlake or settle for a 7700k. My current CPU is bottlenecking me in 2k @ 144Hz.

Guys, pls gimme advice.

How many years before a 4-core, 4.5 GHZ CPU needs to be upgraded?

What's the cool shit in thermal paste now?

>>59297902
GTR or MSI

>>59303684
full fat mayo

In few hours i'll get a pc that has win7 on it, but WITHOUT SP1. Thing is, the laptop has updatse turned off and now it literally can't install skype without needing shitload of redistributables and other updates

Can i just download sp1 and install it or would i need to turn updates on and wait for like 20 hours for everything to be installed? What's a good place to dl sp1?

>>59303507
>dual core in 2017
get a i5 or wait for ryzen 3

>>59303615
>i love to be taken advantage of by jewtel

>>59303684
Explosive diarrhea.

This is my final build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMPrLD
and case is
MS Industrial Black Widow about 50euros, it really hard here to find good case (for about that money)

can I make this build better with the same(ish) amount of money? GTA V, Unity3D, PS, Illu, general web programming

>>59303821
How is buying a cpu that performs better for a lower price being taken advantage of?

>>59303381
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KmNMD8

partially fixed the build, kaby lake and intel in general is fucking retarded when AMD is actually competitive. Corsair fans are fucking awful and overpriced, look into bgears fans or noctua if you want to spend money

also closed loop water cooling is fucking dumb and isnt worth it, if you want to water cool, then save up for a custom loop

>>59303841
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMPrLD
>i5
ryzen 3 will have similar specs to a i5 but half the cost so id wait

>WD caviar blue
WD is horribly unreliable and blues are just shit in general, just get a comparible hgst or seagate

everything else checks out

Just built my 1700x build: Only one thing.
My mobo only has 1 3pin fan header. Do I need to get a fan controller or is some molex-> 3pin fine? Will add resistors to manage speed.

What is the ideal percentage of a power supply's maximum load you should be running? My system is going to be around ~ 675-700W. Is an 850W PSU too small?

>>59303874
because .......drumroll......

.
.
.
it isnt

>>59303945
>>WD caviar blue
Aren't they basically rebadged WD greens?

>>59302439

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/Hx2df8

pls respond

>>59303945
>ryzen 3 will have similar specs to a i5 but half the cost so id wait

4 months of waiting... maybe, I will think about t

>WD caviar blue

ain't they go to brand for 1tb, will go look what are my options

>>59304013
Don't listen to him WD besides the blue/green and red are the most reliable drives on the market.

Get a black and be done until some standard replaces SATA and your mobo no longer supports it.

>>59302733
is there a name for those type of gpus?

>>59304049
If you're going to pay out your ass for a WD black you might as well get a decent hard drive like HGST.

>>59304312
HGST is Toshiba.
When WD bought them the sold their mfg. rights to Toshiba.

>>59304348
And? Toshiba and HGST make great drives.

>>59304348
So Toshiba is considered bad now?

Rate my budget build
Ignore the gaudy case pls
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ZQB9W

I want to use my pc on my crt monitor that only has vga, my motherboard doesn't have vga out or my gpu (1070, I was wondering which adapter would be better: display port to vga or hdmi to vga?

Put this together for a build aimed at video editing:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GZXwpb

Is there anything that should be changed? Anything that could be done cheaper/is overkill in its current state?

>>59303793
Look for WSUS Offline Update.

Is the $50 1tb WD blue the go to drive still? My wd black is dying and I need a new drive.

>>59304787
bump

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XJLZHN
r8

Maybe i'm in the wrong place, but (hypothetically) getting 1 1440p screen and 2 1080p screens, keeping the bigger one in the center, a bad idea?

>>59305703
Ive got 3 of them and theyre all 3 years old. I dont regret it.

>>59304915
If someone could reply, I would be extremely grateful.

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>>59296841
What a fucking newb. He's not even using a socket wrench.

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>>59306224
and his PC doesn't even have a large light bulb

>>59305869
Distilled shit / 10

>>59300157

Bump

>>59303684

Gelid GC-Extreme is the hot (cold?) shit right now.

Used it for my CPU water block.

I7 6700K @ 4.6GHz
GTX 1080 FTW
16GB DDR4 @ 3400
Maximus VIII Ranger
NVMe M.2 SSD

Where is my bottleneck?

>>59297902
XFX, good VRM cooling, good PCB, 3+2 year warranty (if you're picking up the GTR version)

>>59303793

Wipe it and do a fresh OS install plebe.

>>59303647
Incinerate yourself.

>>59303652

That doesn't mean anything dipshit.

I had a Pentium dual core running at over 4ghz and some of the earliest Core processors kicked the shit out of it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sKLZHN

Rate
Uses: Gaming, Schoolwork, streaming from internet and to TV in living room

>>59307269
that screen is a joke right? stuff will be way too small on that resolution

>>59307307
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sKLZHN

No? Is scaling not good for 1440p?
I know it's generally shit for 4k which is why I chose 1440p for 24"

>>59303757
This

>>59298247
480 gtr or msi gaming
No reason to buy a 1060 at this point.

>>59302512
I've got the one and cant complain.
It comes with nice Software, not as the sapphire one.

I was thinking about using a Cryorig H7 for my next build but was wondering about shipping times. From what I understand you have to have it sent from Taiwan; Just how expensive and how long does that take?

I was playing around with my shit pc. Fx4100, 8gb ram, etc... I think I broke it?
The ram is rated for 1333mhz, I pushed it to 1600mhz. I overclocked the cpu via multiplier to 4.3ghz. It failed to post and now my pc won't turn on

>>59307357
You can buy them on Amazon 2 days w/ prime.

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>>59307397
Have you tried turning it off and then on again?

>>59307352
scaling on windows only works properly at 100, 200, 300, etc percentages, you won't want a super expensive 1280x720 of screen real estate

for 1440p at least 27" for things not look super tiny

>>59307397
Read your instruction manual, there should be a reset button or jumper

>>59307397
Windows probably locked your bios. It's a protection feature that's supposed to keep your ram from overheating. The problem there is an unaddressed bug by microsoft that sometimes prevents it from unlocking.

To fix it, take out your hard drive, plug it into another computer, and install gentoo gnu/linux. Then type

sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root

That will wipe off the block. I work tech support for geek squad and have to do this all the time for noobs who try to oc their ram. Just saving you $75 here.

>>59307417
Would I be better off going with 4K and waiting for 3rd party scaling to catch up then?

27" is too big for my desk.

>>59307402
>>59307452
Your retarded jokes would be hilarious if my computer would turn on. Fuck I'd delete system32. Nothing happens when I press the power button. However, my zip disquette lights up when I plug it into the universal serial bus port.

I need a new SSD, those are my options:
256GB ADATA SU800 for 83€
240GB SanDisk Ultra II for 83€
250GB Samsung 850 Evo for 92€
PNY SSDs are unfortunately not available, so my question is if the 850 Evo is really worth it, because i have a 7 year old PC.
Also looking for a new CPU cooler for Intel 1156 Lynnfield, nothing too exciting, i'm considering the EKL Ben Nevis.
Does anyone have experience with it or has a better alternative for under 30€??

How long do you think it'll be till I have to upgrade my 4770k?

>>59303963
>675-700w
thats two Titan XP's and any skylake processor, what the hell are you running?

>>59303955
If you're handy enough to solder a resistor to the fan, you should have no problem with using a molex to 3pin cable.

>>59303647
7700k does not bottleneck most of my games (of course some games are cpu intensive and 144fps is just unrealistic on it no matter what gpu) using a 1070.
I average 90fps and range from 60-144, but im sure thats the graphics card limitation instead of the cpu, and im using a 6600k at that, not a 7700k which generally has much better minimum fps

>>59307651
A while, I went laterally from Ivy to Kaby and the difference isn't very noticeable.

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How do i stream while playing games on a 6600k?
just playing a game alone loads it up at 90-100% usage, it cant handle streaming for very long it seems
or could that be a network limitation or something to do on my laptop's receiving end?
Im at 4.5Ghz and have a little bit of thermal headroom, should i try to overclock more?

>>59308252
pcpartspicker said 235W, but it didn't include some things
+140W for the cpu cooler
+250 for the 1080ti
+65W for overclocking headroom
comes to 700W, putting it in the sweet spot for a 850W PSU in terms of efficiency

>>59308327
>my laptop's receiving end?
>laptop
there's nothing you can do, trash it now.

>>59308329
The titan XP draws upwards of 300w under load and even nvidia recommends a 600w psu for that.
And without a GPU involved, 235W for CPU, motherboard and drives is pretty damn high
>140w for the cpu cooler
what the fuck man, thats tdp, thats how hot of a processor its rated to cool. I bet its power consumption is less than 10w

>>59308369
This is my build: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sKLZHN
I must have misunderstood the specs then.

Do you have a PSU recommendation?

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>>59308329
>+140W for the cpu cooler

>>59308369
Newegg's PSU calculator comes to 641, so it seems I'm about right once you add additional wattage after OC'ing

>>59308394
well adding 250w for the GPU and some OC headroom (remember this is under max load) youre still well under 650w, which you can find plenty of good psus at that wattage
Seasonic is a well reviewed and actual manufacturer unlike rebranding brands like EVGA (although the G2 is a good PSU, its just not EVGA's) i got this
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
or if youre wanting to save a little money you can get this bronze one thats also well reviewed, but your list doesnt look like youre trying to save $30-40 that badly
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095
i really dont think youll need over 650w but of course look for quality first, this guy reviews psus
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

>>59308492
newegg adds headroom and then extra headroom for safety, its not saying your system would draw 641w its saying you should buy a ~641w psu

>>59308492
do you honestly think a small pump and two fans would draw literally as much power as a refrigerator?

>>59308497
Thanks, I'm liking the seasonic ones.
How do you feel about Antec?

>>59308394
here your build was fucking dumb so i fixed it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tZm9BP

>>59308983
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tZm9BP

>changed back to fuckhuge power supply
>more expensive and inferior processor
>took out second hd I was going to use as a raid1 backup

No, you made it worse and more expensive.

>>59309006
>needing raid
no

>more expensive and inferior processor
since when was intel extreme worse then a shitty i5

>changed back to fuckhuge power supply
then get a smaller on faggot

its objectively better, and disagreeing is pure fact denial

>>59309006
You don't use RAID 1 as backup. Only for uptime.

>>59304049
no they arent faggot

>>59309047
It isn't intel extreme. You put Ryzen R7 which is almost twice as expensive. Actually, it is once you factor in the overkill mobo.

>>59309049
I'll just use the second disk as a regular local backup then.

>>59309070
Its just as fast as an intel extreme, if you think a i5 is better just because it has slightly better single core, then you have serious autism

>>59309216
It still costs more and and i5 is good enough for what I'm using it for.

>>59309237
you are buying a 1080 ti, you can afford the cost and added benefit of future proofing, its literally barely $100 more on the build

i7-6700 vs. i5-7600 for gayming?
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600/3515vs3890

I have a feeling it'd be better to go for the i5-7600 as I do not see how that i7 in particular can serve me well but perhaps I'm wrong.

Thoughts please?

>>59308394
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6sGQgL
here nigger.

>>59309263
ryzen 3 or 5, intel is pointless in 2017

>>59309276
>babby lake i7
you fucked it up even more you faggot

>>59309276
>liquid AIO

I'm going to build my own loop this summer once i get some more money. And I don't need an i7.

>>59309308
>And I don't need an i7.
and yet my build is still cheaper than yours.

you're so fucking brain dead holy fuck.

>>59309308
>>59309318
jesus just get a fucking 1700X and be done with it already

>>59309318
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6sGQgL

It's only cheaper cause you took out the NVMe stick. And why are you putting a micro atx board in my full atx case?

>>59309339
>And why are you putting a micro atx board in my full atx case?
probably because you're as dumb as rocks and arent going to sli shit.

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>>59309277

ryzen 5 is just as fucked as ryzen 7. not enough bandwidth across the 2 core complexes.

Fucked.

Could I get >>59309263 a non-meme answer please ?

>>59309339
>>59309343
>>59309347
ok niggers i fixed it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BG8GwV

>>59309263
6700 without a doubt.

>>59309384
>intel

>>59309383
>1700X
>fixed
pick 1

>>59309384
Explain to me why though, because I don't get why it'd be better.

>>59309394
>shilling intel in 2017
fuck off right back to the containment board faggot

>>>/v/

>>59309408
because its a jidf shill

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Q8300 worth salvaging? Was some guys home desktop for a couple years. I can't imagine it did much beyond basic pleb use.

>>59309408
more cache.

>>59309413
fuck you amdicklet.

>>59309429
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-2-Quad-Q8300-2-5GHz-4M-Cache-1333MHz-FSB-SLGUR-Processor-CPU-SKT-775-/262874439140?hash=item3d34899de4:g:x3UAAOSwhlZYtZdU
free 10 dollars I guess.

>>59309430
>fanboying a jewish company
sad

>>59309429
>>59309441
stop being poor

>>59309457
>stop being poor
t. shekelstein

>>59296841
dunno if this goes here or sqt, so ill try here first.

assembled my 4670k + z97 rig. getting whea uncorrectable bluescreens, which google tells me is due to low cpu voltage. switched from auto to a constant 1.2v, and it still happens. did i just get a shitty chip?

>>59309486
bad psu?

>>59309457
>stop being poor
I haven't considered that. Thanks for the tip.

>>59309505
its a brand new cx750m. psu calculator says it should be more than enough for the cpu + 2x 270s.

i guess the only way to test would be to get a new psu though.

>>59309525
>+ 2x 270s.
run 1 only.

>>59309486
1.2 is fairly low, try 1.25, 1.275 and 1.3 if it keeps crashing
Make sure whether you're doing offset or static voltage

Vegaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

>>59309538
theyre gonna be replaced by one fury come tomorrow

>>59309539
its static. will try 1.25.

interestingly enough, when i was stress testing it with the voltage still on auto, it occasionally spiked to 1.28v, but mostly stayed at 1.19v, which is why i set it to that value first. are these kinda spikes normal?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-nvidia-geforce-gtx-950-2gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-blue/4457400.p?skuId=4457400

Dissuade me from buying this.

And before you scream at me, I have a giftcard there and no i did not request it.

>>59309587
>I have a giftcard there and no i did not request it.
buy monthly WoW subscription cards and sell them on ebay instead.

you get most of your money back.

Is it better to get an i7 than an i5 if possible for gayming? If I were to think for the future.

Any idea when we'll see affordable 4k HDR 27" monitors? My two $100 1080p monitors from 2008 are starting to die

>>59309594
>you get most of your money back.
Why would I voluntarily sell something at a loss?

>>59309613
because its better than buying a gtx 950 which is currently going for 100 dollars on ebay.

>>59309613
Why would you voluntarily buy a 950?

Anyone know when the price drop will happen for the 10 series nvidia cards?

>>59309636
>>59309620
This is what I came here for. Thank you.

>>59309647
I doubt the 1070 or weaker will drop below the $380 it is right now
1080 price cuts should be here with the 1080ti retail release

>>59309647
happened already.

march 10th is when the 1080 ti comes out so if your store hasnt dropped prices by then you are getting jewed.

>>59309662
I got a Best Buy gift card and spent it on an SD card and a coffeemaker
>>59309666
Price cuts don't happen until the other price is selling RIGHT now

>>59309677
I'm trying to slap together a meme-ass pc from the variety of giftcards I have accrued over the years.

What card should I target for $150 if my gaming needs won't extend beyond overwatch or planet coaster

>>59309677
>Price cuts don't happen until the other price is selling RIGHT now
are you retarded?

>>59309691
Stop buying chicken tendies for one day and save up for a RX470

>>59309691
>from the variety of giftcards I have accrued over the years.
>over the years.

You do know those gift cards can have expiration dates depending on where you live, right?

>>59309664
1080 is already price cut at $500-550 (remember it was originally $600-650) and yes, 1070's and below have not had any significant price cuts

>>59309734
God bless america

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>>59309734
>Pay in advance to pledge your money to a certain store
>Money expires before you buy anything

>>59309768
>>Pay in advance to pledge your money to a certain store
you fucked up.

>>59309775
>gift

>>59309781
>not asking for cash
>having good goy relatives
you fucked up.

>>59309781
Gift cards are a jew scheme to force you into buying something from a specific store because of the idea that a "gift" would be better than straight cash.

If you don't answer this >>59309597 I'm gonna buy Ryzen.

>>59309597
i7 always.

>>59309846
The answer to your question is ryzen

>>59309862
6600k definitely handles any game I throw at it, it's when I try to stream a game while playing it when it starts shitting

>>59309882
>it's when I try to stream a game while playing it when it starts shitting
and this is why you buy an i7.

anyone know if it's a bad thing if not all of the motherboard standoff screws are in?

I built my first pc about a year ago and just recently realized my mobo is too small for my case, so I never put in the bottom 3 standoff screws because they didn't line up with the screw holes. Now i'm having pc issues, and I'm wondering if it may be related.

if anyone's curious, the issue is that it shuts down and reboots (like it loses power) when I play graphically intense video games. Although toning the graphics down keeps it alive. I swapped out the PSU and that fixed it for a week, but then it started doing the same thing. Now i'm wondering if my mobo could be fucking up my PSU somehow.

>>59309821
>>59309793
>asking for a gift

>being this much of a dick to your family members and boss

>>59309862
>>59309882
>>59309911
Are there cases where an i5 would perform better than an i7-7700?

>>59309924
>>being this much of a dick to your family members and boss
>yesssssss good goy, dont tell your relatives about the gift card scam

>>59309943
no.

>>59309957
i5 destroy i7 when it comes to games.
STOP spreading lies.

>>59309924
My family and friends actually know me and don't give me fake money for stores I never go to.

>>59309972
no it doesnt, fuck off kike.

>>59309943
No not really, the 7600k and 7700k are basically the same chip with or without hyperthreading, and hyperthreading makes a big difference when multi-tasking, or in *some* current games (and from the looks of these new APIs, hyperthreading will get more important for future games)

>>59309943
And you know, even if you listen to this guys >>59309972 dumb meme and find the rare game that performs a bit worse with HT on, you can always just turn it off

>>59309957
>>59310007
>>59310023
So you'd recommend me to buy an i7-7700 over an i5-6700? It's 100 more bucks but if most people truly believe it'd be worth investing in an i7 over an i5 then I'd be tempted to do that.

For a long while now I've had the idea of getting an i5 but... the idea of getting an i7 is tempting as I feel I wouldn't have to buy a new processor in a very long time. Will it be that more powerful to the i5? I always read shits about how i5 were better for gaming...

>>59310034
yes.

once you buy it, laugh at all the retards buying the i5 and laugh at them even harder when they say "lol i dont need an i7."

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>>59310034
The i5 is a better *deal* for gaming, the I7 has the exact same per-thread performance, it just has twice the threads as well
Like I said my 6600k handles all my games but if I add one more intensive task, it shits everything up, I didn't want to spend several hundred dollars on a CPU in 2016 for it to stutter when I use something as normie as Steam streaming

>>59310034
so for example, laugh at this >>59310094 retard right here for being a retard.

do that after you buy the 7700k however.

>>59310034
i5 is a better deal, if you CAN get an i7 and money or build or whatever is not an issue, there's really no reason to not get it, same shit with every other single component.

If you're only doing it for gaming, i5 is often a better deal, but if you got money to spare i7 will obviously give you more options, it's not a huge ass stretch but it's something.

>>59310034
and laugh at this retard here >>59310114

>>59310112
Luckily ryzen isn't as good as Intel for gaming, so the used market value of my 6600k is still $10 less than the retail price

>>59310045
>>59310112
>>59310124
It's been years upon years of 7fags waging war on 5fags telling them they're gonna be forgotten and dropped and it still hasn't happened.

>>59310161
But dx12 tho
Muh YouTube let's play streams
P-Productivity!

>>59310172
said the threadlet i5 faggot.

>>59310112
>7700k
I don't plan on overclocking. The K version would really make the whole thing too expensive for me as I'd also need to buy a more expensive mobo, a ventirad+paste, ... yeah no, if I do end up buying an i7 I'll get the 7700 and that's it.

Thanks everyone for the replies.

>>59310192
That's dumb, you're losing free clock performance (which translates into EVERY PROGRAM kind of performance)
You're also losing speedier ram by not using the better mobo chipset
If you're trying to save money, why not go with a 6700k and Z170? I'm sure the prices aren't as high as they were last year and it's practically the same performance as a 7700k (actually better performance than a 7700)

>>59310225
>free performance meme
>implying that the Z170 tax is free
>implying that better cooling is free

>>59310244
Better cooling should be a priority anyways, those Intel stock coolers are jet engines
And how much is a H270 for your 7700 over a Z170 for your 6700k? A quick google looks about the same price per brand per form factor between the two

>>59310225
No but I totally get it'd be more powerful, but you can't argue it wouldn't cost me more.

I'm not rich, after all I was going with an i5-6700 firsthand, the idea of getting an i7 is already rather expensive to me so an i7-7700k is just too crazy to me, as much as I'd love to have the 4.0gz.

>>59310268
7700ks often overclock up to 5Ghz on consumer-tier cooling
My 6600k is 4.5GHz on a $20 hyper 212 evo and that made a big difference from the stock 3.9 boost. Also my Z170 motherboard was $80-90

>>59310301
I wouldn't have any need for such a powerful computer. Stats are pretty to look at and all but I don't need those if the most expensive thing I end up doing might be buying and playing BF1.

I am looking at a new build but was wondering, whats the point of building it myself if I can get a website to do it for me, for the same price?

Not sure if they are having a sale or what not but the two shopping carts come out to the same.

>>59310347
Overclocking got Forza horizon from below 60fps up to averaging 70

What was that new video card that came out this week please? Did it drop the prices of any other cards?

>>59311701
>>59311701
>>59311701