/pcbg/ -- PC Building General

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First for Intel destruction, so sayeth Su and Keller.

>>>59119291

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>the call that destroyed Intel

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>>59120149
>poorfag
>2k budget
Those numbers don't add up, Mr. Goldstein.

>>59120200
2k refers to resolution not budget.

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Thoughts on this build? Newegg has the i5 7500 for just $195 right now. I figure that even if the Ryzen 5 series are as good or even better than the i5 series, at $195 that is cheaper than most of the Ryzen 5 chips and it will still basically never bottleneck my RX 480. Note the purchased parts too (in current FX AMD build).

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HDtjsJ

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>>59120255

>cyrorig

Good choice

>locked i5

This is why you should wait for ryzen 5.

>8gb ram

Nyet, i'd push for 16gb for a vidya machine these days.

>XFX GTR

Excellent choice.

>psu

Most likely good but as ever, check jonnyguru first.

>>59120200
i'm a poorfag by us standards, ill be saving up 6 months for that pc

>>59120300
>This is why you should wait for ryzen 5.
What's wrong with the locked i5? I don't plan on overclocking. I'd be waiting until the summer too.

Also, it looks like I can get dual channel 16GB for just about $30 more, so I'll go ahead and get that.

>>59120223
>>59120339
>2k resolution
This triggeres muh autism. There's 1080p, 1440p and 4K, the rest is jewish trickery. Anyways, if you want to wait another 6 months no matter what then wait for Vega.
Regarding your build, the cooler is very good but overpriced as fuck, imho just get a NH-D15 and call it a day. Costs half of the Kraken, performs excellent (BTFOs other AIOs) will never leak or break down like some AIOs will after some time.
SSD is good, GPU see above, PSU isn't really good, stick to EVGA G3 in US and RAM.. well, just get the cheapest 2x8 3000+ kit available. RAM prices are crazy atm and won't change, if you see a good deal, buy the RAM.

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>building PC
>miss limited stock offer for $120 off 1070, $100 off 7700k, and another $30 off mobo
I'm pretty sure they only has some laughable amounts of each, but feeling of possibly missing a bargain is devastating nevertheless

>>59120459
dont fall for g memes

your machine will be great

>>59120255
Is that kabylake processor?
Dunno with the numbers, am a amd fanboy.
But pretty sure the 150 mobo cant Run kabby without bios update

>>59120506
>egarding your build, the cooler is very good but overpriced as fuck, imho just get a NH-D15 and call it a day

i want a water cooler for the xfr on the ryzen. it also has a 6 year warranty, so i don't really care if it breaks down

>PSU isn't really good, stick to EVGA G3

care to elaborate? also, should i go higher than 750W? or lower? will 750W be good in like 7 years when i upgrade?

>well, just get the cheapest 2x8 3000+ kit available

https://www.skroutz.gr/s/9033301/Geil-Dragon-16GB-DDR4-3200MHz-GWW416GB3200C16QC.html

is what i'm probably getting. does the clock speed matter that much though?

>>59120509
that's good, you can get vega and ryzen instead now

>>59120573
nah you can get 270 mobos for $150 that run it out of the box

Need a max 1080p build. Gtx 1060 6gb + what cpu? I need single thread performance Uber alles because I'm a starcraft neet. Pls advice include a monitor too.

Looking to build a homeserver. need it to run a couple of virtual machines. I've been looking at building with 2 e5-2670, although that is a lot of CPU power for the relatively light load I intend to put on the server, although more CPU power is always appreciated and I guess it would allow me to run more systems in the end. Does anyone know a better solution for less price?
specifically, I'd like at least 12 cores at at least 2.6ghz, preferably 3.0ghz. I was looking at some older 1366 mobos and such but i wasnt having much luck

>>59120459

>What's wrong with the locked i5? I don't plan on overclocking. I'd be waiting until the summer too.

Mainly that AMD's new turbo equivalent is better - a 7500 will run at turbo clocks and no more. Ryan will boost (give or take) depending on cooling, giving you additional headroom without user intervention.

>>59120582
EVGA G3 is just an excellent PSU, if you want details read the jhonnyguru review. 750W is more than enough, R7 is like 95TDP, Vega shouldn't draw more than 300-350-ish and technology gets more efficient with each year.
RAM speed does matter, there's a significant difference between 2133/2400 and 3000/3200. Idk that specific RAM but since it's G.Skill it should be good.

>>59120573
it is, but I have no problem with running an exe to update bios. even then, many

I can get a MSI B250 board for $10 more, but it has 2 less ram slots and less I/O.

>>59120653
Consider the RX 480 over the 1060. More VRAM, cheaper, same performance in DX11, better performance in DX12 and Vulkan. Are you looking for a 144hz monitor? I mean, if you're not going to wait for Ryzen, it's the i5 or bust with a 480/1060 tier card

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LzY4wV

How does this build look? Might change out CPU and mobo for R5 and an AMD motherboard, depending on the benchmarks for R5. How does everything else look though (especially the graphics card)?

I have a i7 3770 3.4ghz and I was thinking in upgrading my PC seeing it's about 5y old, but I was looking into a new cpu, the i7 7700, but it's 3.6ghz and it feels a minimal upgrade.

Why is it that the speed hasn't gone marginally up after all these series, or is there some other type of upgrade other than speed after all these new models?

>>59120762
Looks solid. Consider getting 144hz if you play competitive FPS games like Overwatch, CSGO, TF2 etc.

>>59120696
>I have no problem with running an exe to update bios
I'd say the fact that your computer won't even POST would be quite a problem.

>>59120799
intell pulled the jew since amd was not competing

>>59120690
cool senpai, thanks

what do you think about the screen? should i change to one with 144hz, 1440p and free-sync/g-sync from 120hz 1080p?

>>59120853

>*sync > hertz

Got myself a B250 pro4 board with g.skill ddr4-2400 ram and a g4560.
Did i oversee any incompability?
Should work, right?

>>59120989
The B250 boards support 2133 RAM, not 2400

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Can I do any better for ~$400?

The GPU is an RX 480 8GB.

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>>59121064
Pls dont try to troll

>>59120906
if i buy a new one, it's gonna have both sync and higher hz. is it worth it though?

>>59121111
if your board says it does, then you're fine
most B250 boards don't support above 2133

>>59121145
Okay, you weren't trolling i guess.
Thanks for the honest input.
It Says that it Supports 2400, as seen on the screen. Cheers.

>>59121119
sync is only needed if you render less frames than your monitor refresh rate it
if you play something like fps games or anything competetive you're supposed to have no sync on anyway

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Mainly for gayming. Italy.
The PSU is going to be an EVGA 550W G2, from Amazon, which is for another 100€.

So... Should I wait for Ryzen? My current PC is 9 years old.

>>59121277
>my current PC is 9 years old
You should've upgraded 4 years ago.

>>59121297
I've started getting some sort of income only in the last year. That's why I can afford it. I don't want to spend more than 1300€, anyway.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gqh4wV
Should I get the Sapphire Nitro+ or the XFX GTR rx480?

>>59121119

*sync is worth its weight in gold for vidya that is a hardware killer. If you can push high fps (as in over 120fps at all times) then its all about the fps. That said pushing 120+ at all times is 1) not possible due to lol engine limitations and 2) ahrdware requirewd for modern vidya.

At the end of the day currently its a trade off - soon™ you will get either freesync or Gsync with high fps at high resolution but until then pick your poison. I pick resolution (which is to say, 60fps) over high refresh rate but others disagree.

Personally I would rather 4k 30-fps lock over 1440p 60fps under the caveat both refresh rates are met absolutely.

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>>59121081
Would this be a considerable upgrade over that combo? It would cost about $30 more overall.

Also, is there anything wrong with buying open box on newegg?

>>59121418
XFX
the nitro+ was only good on the 470s.

Asus strix >Power color triple Fan > xfx gtr > msi gaming x

I got myself the MSI, so no shilling here.

>>59121516
Oh ok, thanks.

>>59121579

Do your research. the XFX GTR is the pinnacle of 480's out of the box (low voltage plus high clocks) but that isn't the whole story.

will this ram:
>http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct2k4g4sfs8213

work with this mobo:
>http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc7i3bnh-nuc7i3bnk-brief.html

I'm confused because because it doesn't specify how many pins it can accommodate (not sure if that matters). I read a description on amazon that it had 260 pins.

>>59121425
if *sync kills frames so much, what's the point of it? why is it better than vsync?

Do I fucking suck at cable management or does it feel like almost every case doesn't leave adequate room for that shit? I hate having to smash, squeeze, and bend shit.

>>59121931

*sync doesn't hurt frames at all - its main purpose is to sync display output to the frps (that is to say, if your vidya is outputting 45fps so is your screen and thus no screen tearing).

It also has no input latency inherent to vsync.

tl;dr smoother experience when fps fluctuates. Frametimes are a different beast and irrelevant to free/g/vsync technologies.

>>59121996
then why do you say you have to pick resolution or fps?

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>first time builder
>parts finally come in for gaming PC I've been wanting to build
>put that shit together
>turn it on
>no video
>MB shows error code 62
What went wrong?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wsPM2R

>>59122157
if you scroll to the bottom it says : "Some Intel Z170 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Kaby Lake-S CPUs"

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kxj6Ps

i feel i shouldnt skimp out on the power supply. which one do you guys recommend?

>>59122181
How do I do that? Do I install another CPU to get everything to work so I can get the BIOS update and then switch it back?

>>59122136


'cuz current gpus aren't powerful to push both unless its the likes of a titan x (pascall) at 1080p.

>>59122157
Z170 needs a bios update for sure.
Do it yourself, for this you have to get a skylake CPU and do the process of updating it via Tool or USB Flash, or buy a different mobo which has native Support of kabby

>>59121447
I've done it many times and it worked out great each time. On a cpu, mobo and video card.

>>59122157
>>59122181

>buying kaby lake with this bios shit going on right now

why

>>59122253
Yeah, kabby fucked me too.
Bought the g4560 when it was Brand fucking new with a z170. It wasnt written that it needs an update whatsoever on the day i bought. Had to figure it out for a few days myself...

>>59122217

yeah, you need to buy a skylake processor. just get whatever the cheapest one you can buy is, i think the celeron g3900 is the cheapest right now, but youll probably have the best chance of buying a 4400 and turning around/selling it because people will either use it to flash their mobo for kaby lake or use it in a budget gaming rig

>>59122279

yeah a family friend came to me and was like "hey do you have any spare skylake processors i could borrow" and i was just like "nigga why would i or anyone else have that". same shit happened to his friend.

at least do the research on compatibility though

If I build a new PC but don't feel like spending extra shekels on Windows, can I just create an image of my old drive and put it onto the new one?

>>59122385
Just download an ISO of win7 and dont Put key in nigga, whats the Problem.

>>59122251
After browsing this thread for a minute I'd say it's 95% probable that the z170 board was returned because someone got a Kaby Lake CPU with it but didn't know what to do.

>>59122478
Safe assumption, just look at the review comments. 99% of 1 egg reviews are saying "IT DOESN'T WERK WITH MY 7700K!!"

What are your thoughts on KingDian S280 SSD?
I'm looking for something cheep.

>>59122669
Good SSD but how much does it cost for you? Where i live it's better to buy a cheap SanDisk SSD Plus for basically the same price while not have to wait years for the chinks to deliver your package.

Trying to focus on budget with this build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nf46Ps

Looking to do basic use and some light-medium gaming.

Currently on my 2007 build with a 8800 GTS / 2ghz dual core athlon / 256gb hard drive / 4gb of ram.

I play a lot of older games but my friends have got me intrigued on a couple newer titles - one being Rust. Then I really have been wanting to try Battlefield 1. Will this do okay with a game as new as that?

Thanks

I want to build something with the undisputed most performance per square inch. That said, what form factor should I appeal to:
1) pico-ITX (Intel Edison, RaspPi3B,etc)
2) nano ITX (supports some Atom, Celeron, and AMD APUs)
3) mITX (Fuck ultra tiny, max performance is in a full sized cpu)

>>59122216
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hydpWX
PSU is fine for your kind of build.

>>59122727
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZ7fRG
Assuming a budget of roughly $500. SSD is optional but imho it's really worth it, but whatever you do, get a RX470 4G, it's the perfect match for the G4560, far better than the 1050Ti and offers overall great value.

>>59122839
The i7-7700K seems to be 49.3688x faster than the Intel Edison chip in the few benchmarks I could find, but mITX is only 3.256x larger in size, making it a significantly better performance per square inch option

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thoughts on sd card for laptop storage?

>>59122839
How about a Silverstone or Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC / ITX build?

Getting this in 2 weeks, Budget is 1250$ CAD after tax (Canada)

CPU: i5 6500 (300$)
Motherboard: MSI H110 PRO AC Mini ITX (130$)
RAM: Corsair Vengance LPX (2x4) (75$)
SSD: Kingston 120GB SSD (70$)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB (95$)
GPU: PowerColor RX 480 4gb (260$)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv Mini ITX (85$)
PSU: EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze (55$)
Monitor: LG Widescreen 2560x1080 75hz 25" Monitor (255$)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengance K65 Compact ($100)
Mouse: Corsair M65 Pro ($60)

>>59122842
hey that build looks good. I gotta ask though if extra fans are necessary

>>59123014
Well, the H15 comes with only one fan so getting at least one additional fan will help a lot, two is optional.

>>59123004
Wait for Ryzen 5

>>59123081
Fuck off with your meme advice

>>59123154
Not that anon, but unironically he should. Prices will go down even if you are an Intel fanboy and if you aren't then its worth looking into the R5 benches.

>>59123173
Dude if you sit around waiting for woulds and shoulds your gonna have a bad time. Get what works for you now.

>>59123194
R5 is literally just around the corner. All he has to do is wait a month or so.

>>59123194
>Guy's it's okay buy the Pentium 4
>I know Core is just a month away but waiting is for losers xD
Unironically fuck off with your meme of a life

>>59123369

P4 EE is best chip ever made - so sayeth goldstein.

building a new budget pc since my pc is 8 years old and since most parts are unsalvageable im doing it from stratch

RAM: 135eur (Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4-2666MHz)
CPU: 300eur (r5 1600x)
Motherboard: 150eur (Prime B350-Plus)
ssd: 78eur (sandisk)
cooler:101eur (Noctua NH-D15)
gpu:293eur (palit gtx 1060)

keeping in mind ill be overclocking both the gpu and cpu, is there a chance that my zillion year old zalman zm500 hp PSU can be used?

Whats a good case under $100? Clear panel and cable management are important tonme heres what im leaning towards
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tD38TW/nzxt-case-cas340wbr1
Also how do i make it sexy? Do i buy aftermarket cables in the color scheme? The gpu has leds on it right?

would an i5-4960 be a worthwhile upgrade from a 4460?

>>59123989
Corsair Spec 2. Incredibly high quality, red LED fan, made out of metal.

>>59120653
SC2 is so cpu locked on two threads it's literally impossible to max out. Might as well get an i3 and a 1050 to call it a day.

>>59121145
My b250m does

>>59121879
Go to pc part picker dot com

>>59124050
g4560 would be fine. I have a laptop with a kaby i3 that runs SC2 medium settings 1080p really well. Pretty much takes nothing to run Blizzard games and that's a feature, not a bug. They know how to bring in normies, make the games playable with low end hardware.

>>59122253
How doni know if its kaby lake

>corei5
>seagate 1 tb hdd
>gt 610 gpu


stay mad richfags

>>59124147
time to upgrade to a 1050ti poorfag

Why do people think jew Intel will lower prices anytime this year because or Ryzen?

When has that ever happened with any CPU? Let alone consumer electronics.
Intel is still Intel. As we all know there are fanboys who will buy Intel until they die, and lots that are just stuck with Intel because of their motherboards. If prices drop at all, it would likely be a marginal drop, and it won't matter because Coffee Lake will be around the corner by the time Ryzen 5 comes around. We're all hoping that Ryzen 5 will actually out-perform i5 Kaby Lake, but even if they did, by how much? A 7500 is still just $195 and the lowest priced Ryzen 5 announced is $179.

tl;dr
if you want Intel, buy Intel. The prices will not go down this year. Ryzen may be dope, but the ripples won't be made until a year from now.

>>59124008
Im between that and a phantek

What do you guys think about this build? Anything obvious that needs to be changed? I live in Europe.

Also, any monitor recommendations? I'm a bit lost, gaming and adobe suite is my main occuptions.

>>59124685
Fuck me, forgot the link.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7L9sPs

>>59122718
Your right.
I can save 5 AUD and 2-4 weeks waiting by buying a sandisk plus. I'm going to assume it is of equal quality.

Thankyou very much for your help.

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I made a budget build video, and I'm hoping it's my first video that isn't ass: https://youtu.be/rrzp_fS1GRY

>only installed 4GB of memory
I know, I know.

>>59124774
Specs?

Should I get a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 or a Cryorig R1 Ultimate?

Currently using a Corsair H80 with a fucked pump on my 2600K, getting tired of hearing it constantly power cycling.

>>59124008
>Corsair
>high quality
wew

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>>59122958
Bump for answers
Going in to laptop, not even sure if the card goes in all the way or if it sticks out, guess I'll find out

>>59124208
i have to get a better PSU to get a better GPU and honestly my >rig will be pretty strong, spend most of my time on web browser anyways

Silverstone TJ-08
BeQuiet System Power 350W
AsRock B150 Pro4S
Intel G4560
Scythe Iori
16 GB Crucial DDR4
Gigabyte GTX1500ti 4GB
256GB Sandisk SSD
2x 1TB HGST 7200rpm HDD
LG DVD Burner
2x 24" LG IPS Display

For slightly over 700 Eurobucks in total.
Did i fuck up?

Are there any guides regarding airflow?

I know how airflow works, what I am curious about is positive/negative airflow pressure and how to evade getting dust everywhere really quick.

Are there any guides or infocharts that explain this matter? I just got a new case, which has filters of course, but on my old case with filters I was also getting too much dust too fast.

>>59125867
You want more intake than exhaust for positive pressure, which will "blow" away dust from the cracks and gaps in your case. Make every intake filtered, obviously
Negative pressure is having more exhaust that intake, and that can suck in dust through the cracks and gaps in the case (but there are *arguable* thermodynamic advantages)
Really having slight positive pressure is the best way to go imo, make sure your airflow can follow a somewhat linear "stream" in and out of the cases

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPWVZ8
My potential (?) Ryzen build

>>59125867

It's not complicated.

You want to draw in more air than you exhaust so all of the air comes in through your filtered intakes.

how much does extra does the seller usually charge for a prebuild than buying all the parts yourself?

>>59126627
Too much

>>59126627

A couple hours at a rate determined by the builder's experience level.

>>59126516
>>59126590
Thanks guys.

Any /pcbg/ approved fans? I am running SP120s right now and they're not even designed for case cooling, they're mostly radiator fans afaik.

I'm looking for something that's 140mm, has a lot of airflow but quiet at the same time. Noctuas PWM fans should do nicely, yeah?

Do you think Vega will be worth it? AMD is showing some promising things with Ryzen but I can't help but feel it won't be just another disappointment. I'm tired of waiting and really want to upgrade.

>>59126940
Get a Ryzen then, you want it.

>>59126940
Something better is always around the corner. Just buy when you can get the best deal.

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What Mobo for ryzen you gonna get?

>>59126903

If you like the SP120s you could get the AF140s. Same fan but 140mm and designed for airflow.

>>59127365

Crosshair Hero.

>>59123574
anyone?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wR7kRG

What should I change?

I'm a first time builder, getting ready to order my first parts soon.

This is what my I came up with after research, advice of friends, etc. I don't really want to sink anything further in for now. I think it should treat me well enough and look alright.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQJhd6

However, I would look at potential modifications that would objectively give more performance while maintaining the $1500 price point complete with monitor/mouse/keyboard.

>>59127599

Go look up reviews of the psu - jonnyguru is a good source. Sure your systen overclocked won't pull 500w but the psu may (or may not) actually be capable of delivering that.

As a rule NEVER cheap out on a psu.

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>>59127958
>buying Windows
y tho?

This is my current rig:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Vyj3jc

What should be my next addition/improvement?

>>59128142

Not him, but $88 to not have to deal with shitty patches and loaders to me.

>>59128293
>88$
https://twed.com/product/windows-10-pro-global-cd-key/

>>59127958
Buying Intel right at this moment is not a smart thing to do. Let reviewers get their hands on Ryzen chips proper and see how it (especially the cheaper SKUs in your case) does out in the fabled real world.
Buying Skylake is especially stupid when Kaby Lake costs about the same and clocks higher.
Think really hard about whether you really need that optical drive.
Drop the meme fans.
Get a WD Red instead of Black.
Consider stepping down to a 120Hz or 60Hz monitor. Your 1060 is not going to give you the kind of performance you want with a 144Hz monitor unless you only play ancient games like CS:GO.
Consider getting a pair of headphones instead of a pair of speakers that belong in a trash can.

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They stopped stocking the Phantek Enthoo Luxe in white on PCCaseGear.

Anyone have suggestion for a better white case for a water cooled hard tubing build?

Can someone share their input on this? And recommend some monitors? I would greatly appreciate it!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7L9sPs

>>59127856
Gpu is a bottleneck.
Get the 470 nitro+.
Will be like 20-30 bucks more

>>59128253
Rx 480 8gb and Stock up to 16gb of ram.
Then this build will last for 5-7years i guess.

>>59128862

That's exactly what I was thinking.

>>59128424
Fractal Design Define S, NZXT H440 or maybe Phanteks Eclipse 400S (or what it'S called). Those are the three potential choice comming to my mind.

>>59124927
Processor: Intel G4400 @ 3.3GHz
Motherboard: ASRock B150M Pro4V MicroATX
Graphics: Asus RX 460 2GB
Memory: Team Elite 4GB DRR4-2133
Power supply: Raidmax RX-500XT (I know, that's the first thing I'll be upgrading)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool Gammaxx 400
Hard drive: An old Samsung 1TB
Case: It's a Foxconn case from about 2002, and hasn't been in production for probably literally more than a decade

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>>59128424

Honestly the Enthoo Luxe isn't great for watercooling anyway. The archaic internal layout and small window isn't great for having a showcase-ready build. There's a new tempered glass version and you can remove all of the drive cages but that only works if you're only using 2.5" drives.

If I were doing a custom loop I'd do it in either the Enthoo Evolv or it's cheaper cousin (with identical internal layout) the Enthoo Pro M. It fits a 360mm rad in front comfortably which is good enough for a simple CPU/GPU loop, and there's additional space on top if you don't mind being a little cramped.

I just got a new i5 6600k for $200. Did I do good?

>>59130857

They're cheaper at Microcenter.

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I remember times when there was "Falling for gtx1060 meme" meme, is there anything true about it, is it still valid? I am asking because i will soon upgrade to 6gb version of it.

>>59131988

It's a good card but the 480 has the edge.

>>59131988

The 1060 lacks FineWine technology.

How good is the Sapphire Nitro+ in terms of RX 480 graphics cards?

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here is my 4K 60FPS build for gayming in the living room

>>59132545
Very good but XFX GTR is better.

>>59132693
Shit bait / 10

>>59132729
How is the GTR better? Doesn't the Nitro+ have better clock speeds?

>>59132879
not a b8 but ok lol

jus making sure my build is in order

Any good windowed case recommendations? I was looking at the phantek eclipse and a corsair spec 2 but am open to suggestions

>>59133103
Yes it is factory OC'd but also hotter and louder than the GTR and offers less OC potential.
If you can get the GTR, if money is an issue the Nitro+ should be cheaper and is perfectly fine.

>>59133390

be quiet! dark base pro 900.

>>59132693
>spending 4 grand
>that cooling system
>putting it all in a shitty case
Youve been cucked

>>59133339
Its not

Picked up a asus p6t, i7 920(with corsair dual fan cooler), gtx 560 ti, 6gb ddr3, and a thermaltake 850 modular psu for 50 dollarydoos off of craigslist. Howd I do /g/? Might buy 12gb ram and a xeon x5650 for it soon. Any thoughts or suggestions?

It was ridiculously cheap because the guy thought it was broken if anyone is wondering.

>>59120544

how is it a meme to save hundreds of dollars lmao

fuck off you shill

>Intel makes godly pentium 4560
>makes so few they drive the price up to i3 levels
Will Ayyymd ever compete in the budget build level again?

>>59133442
If all the parts work it's actually a very good purchase for 50 bucks. But imho you shouldn't waste money on this. Get another 6GB RAM if you can find it cheap and maybe a cheap SSD.
I don't see the point of getting a Xeon and additional 12GB for this build.

>>59133456
>if you wait you can save on your cpu
>if you wait a few months you can save om that gpu
>a better psu was just announced for Q3
>SSD will be a lot cheaper in two years hold off
Dude at a certain point you just have to buy

>>59131917
I saw that, but it was only available for in-store pickup and the closest store was an hour drive away. Factoring in gas, it would have cost me about the same.

>>59132729
The XFX GTR has better silicon. The Nitro+ has a higher clock out of the box, but can't be overclocked nearly as well. The GTR is arguably the best 480

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Bought this used/refurbished PC from a computer shop for 250$. looking to upgrade a little bit with a basic video card, more ram and anything else to make it better. but as you can see there is not much room in the case. what are my options?
>gateway desktop
>amd phenom II 945 4core processor
>4 gb DDR3 ram
>1 TB hdd
>win10 pro

How long until prices start to drop on intel processors on other merchants besides Micro Center?

>>59133735
loll they got you good, i had this amd like 7 years ago. why waste your money???

>>59133390

Can't do better than the Eclipse, except maybe the Pro M.

>>59133777
>Intel
>drop

Pick one

I want to upgrade to Ryzen soon, with a new mobo and all.

Now i''m not very savvy on PSU's, would a few years old PSU still be compatible with a newer mobo? I'm asking as i don't know how universal these things with cables nd all are.

>>59133735

The most valuable part of that machine is the HDD.

>>59133850

Connections rarely change. All you need to worry about is if you have enough of them and if your psu can actually power whatever you are plugging into it.

>>59133538
Found a 12gb kit 6x2gb on cl for like 30 dollars, super cheap. A 6 core 12 thread xeon will make this a worthy workstation for some time. The 6gb with the build is shitty but everything works.

>>59133735
bait

>>59133822
its a great deal what you talking about. the hdd is brand new, latest version of windows. even has hdmi support. yeah sure its an outdated cpu and no ram but whatever thats why im here asking...i dont need to spend thousands of dollars on some crazy custom build to browse 4chan and jerk off

>>59133735
You got hustled ese, some cholos really got you!

>>59126542
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPWVZ8
you could buy a top end water cooler if you didn't pay for windows
>>59128293
KMSpico is ezez
>>59121879
>http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct2k4g4sfs8213
that's laptop memory
>>59125523
the max power draw of a gt610 is 29w. the max power draw of a 1050ti overclocked to 1900mhz under load is about 74w. neither require a power connector. your psu could probably handle the extra 40w

How long until I5 prices go down :(

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After a lot of questions I finally got it all put together.

>>59134044
next year, maybe 2 years
the ripples from Ryzen will not be felt on Intel for a while

>>59134052
>wangblows 8

>>59134197

yeah i don't know why it did that?

>>59134289
It's called autism.

>>59133871
Great, thanks!

Bought this 1200w 50 Eu Power supply a few years back and it still works like a charm, would be a shame if i had to replace it.

>>59134790

>1200w

For what purpose?

Are there any sites that will assemble a PC for me and ship it to me

I'm pretty out of place here but I've been trying to get my new pc together and I'm pretty happy with it but want some advice or second opinions on anything at all.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YFGvvV

>>59134974

Yes but it makes you a complete faggot.

>>59135048
I dont care. I am a basic bitch

I had planned to get something like an i5 6500 Skylake and a RX 480 and I keep hearing horror stories about :

>Windows 7 not booting when wanting to install (?)
>Thus being forced to update bios (why the hell would they do this?)
>RX 470/480 having driver problems
>RX 470/480 causing random blackscreens
>Muh wait for Ryzen!

I just want to build a new computer for fuck sake. Also I don't know shit about motherboards, why are there so many of them

>>59135133

>Thus being forced to update bios (why the hell would they do this?)

Support for some of the newer features of skylake that older BIOSes lack support for would be my guess.

i5 or Ryzen equivalent?

How much longer do we have to wait?

>>59135007
Objectively OK, but this offers better value: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zNvLqk

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>>59135545

>>59134898
My previous power supply gave me problems, probably not enough wattage or whatever, it would crash the computer when under too much load, could be heat as well.

Never had any troubles after getting this one at the local store, also 1200 watt for 50 bucks, man. Can't refuse that.

>>59135596

>also 1200 watt for 50 bucks, man. Can't refuse that.

I can tell you've never read jonnyguru's Death of a Gutless Wonder articles.

>>59135596
I'd certainly refuse it, I actually value my components.

>>59135596
>muh WATTS
Power supplies are most efficient around 50% load, so if you're not drawing around 600W (which you won't without dual GPU) you're better off with weaker PSU

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Do any component manufacturers offer 3D models for their parts? I want to visualize my design to make sure the colors look good.

>>59135806

>Power supplies are most efficient around 50% load

This is bullshit.

>>59135883
>what is entire 80 plus standard

>>59134161
I thought Intel was panicking and doing hasty last minute changes in response to zen?

>>59136016
lol no
do you really think the jews over at Intel would do that

>>59136086

Never.

http://wccftech.com/intel-playing-dirty-undercut-amd-ryzen/

>>59136086
There's three threads saying they are
There's been 20 threads in the last few days saying they are
Is it a good time to get a 7700k? /g/ keeps saying so

>>59136164

>Intel is number one goy, buy the 770k - how can ryzen compete?

>>59136164
just wait until ryzen releases, best case it's so good intel starts reacting, worst case they do nothing

>>59136178
I mean I'm all for cheap high performance cores and all but id rather not spend over $300 making my good CPU into a good multithreaded CPU, don't want to have to buy an overpriced motherboard, learn which variants are "OC-ready" and likely reinstall windows
There's a thread up right now claiming that 6700ks are like $260 and the 7700ks are under $300

>>59136148
That site should be banned


Ducking blog spam

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Are there any resources for generating a build based on what I want it want my PC to do?

I'd like to convert from a Mac, but I'll be the first to admit I'm relatively hardware-illiterate after all the hand-holding and ass-fucking Apple has done to me over the years.

>>59136653
Are you willing to pay Mac prices?
If so, you can basically afford any desktop computer on the planet

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Ok, this is my situation: 7 years old PC broke, Laptop is 3 years but still fine, although a pain in the ass to work on, i'm currently in college and have trouble with two modules.
In case i pass everything i will dump roughly 1400€ into a R7 + Vega meme build and maybe get a 1440p freesync monitor, idk, if i don't pass.. should i simply kill myself?
Sounds like a plan, doesn't it?

>>59136815
Why wait for results? Suicide can be accomplished right now.

>>59136704
If need be, I would, but I guess it's more of a matter of not knowing what's needed or how to determine what the trade-off I can make are. For instance, if I wanted to drive 3 or 4 4K monitors. Or, if it's appreciably cheaper, to go down to 1440p.

>>59136873
>3 or 4k monitors
If you shit that much money to even consider having 4 4k monitors i'd say go for it.

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>>59136873
It's not hard to drive even multiple 4K monitors with a mid level GPU ($200-300) doing normal "work" stuff (as long as it has enough HDMI/DP ports)
If you want to play games at 4K, that's gonna jack up your GPU price up near the $1000 mark
1440p is more reasonable, I built this PC recently, It plays games at 1440p and greater-than-60fps. I would recommend not getting an i5 (it does well enough, but has problems with heavy multitasking like streaming while gaymen)
This PC was less than $1200

>>59136835
Sure but i don't have a reaseon, at least not yet.

>>59136993
After reading your posts, I can assure you that you have a reason.

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Moving on from a series of laptops, paranoid about my build though why Im not sure.

>>59133945
That was a good bargain man. Hey i have a bridge for sale if youre interested

what should i change?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J2LWjc

used for multiple VMs, hoping to smoothly kvm overwatch at 1080p/144hz

>>59136925
Not that anon, but Im planning to buy almost the exact rig you have anon, I'm just doubting if the 1070 can run Ark on Ultra.

>>59136911
I'd prefer to keep my money constipated, rather than shitting it out, though.

>>59136925
A hypothetical: if I wanted to game on one monitors, watch videos on another, and leave last open for normal stuff, what graphics card would you recommend at 4K? At 1440p?

>>59137082
Witcher 3 and Forza (and Forza is just badly optimized) are the only games that even gets close to dropping down to 60fps at 1440p for me
I would just look up benchmarks if I were you, nobody on /g/ has the kind of credibility to tell you how to spend $400

>>59137014
>inb4 muh ayyymdrone
>inb4 yuropoor ahmed

>>59135837
Youre a faggot dude

>>59137105
Monitors that aren't rendering graphics add almost nothing to the workload. You can run 4 4K screens with Facebook on each using integrated graphics, but as soon as you load up a game it'll run out of juice
If you EVER plan on playing games at 4K without destroying your quality settings, you'll need a 1080 at least (arguably not even a 4K gaymen card), and you should be waiting for the 1080ti
If you're playing games on a 1440p monitor and maybe running YouTube on others, I'd recommend a 1070 or 1080 (maybe Vega would be worth waiting for there, as its expected to be between a 1070 and 1080 performance)
if these are all 60hz monitors, I think a 1070 should satisfy you, worst case scenario you find a game you need to turn down to "high settings" to get a consistent 60fps, and that's not worth the extra $200 for a 1080 imo
But if you plan on 4K gaymen, you should probably wait for the 1080ti

>>59137197
:(

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Is this the new meme monitor?

>1440p
>G-Sync
>165hz
>Under 400$

>>59137370
>24"

>>59137375
>Pixel Density
>Never use antialiasing again

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r8 my build duders

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bv7kRG

>>59137250
Lots of great information here. Thanks for the help!

>>59137370
Looks sexy as fuck, guess there are 27" and freesync versions?

>>59137416
What's up with the i5 6600k? Everyone's been posting it in this thread.

Why no 6500, 7500 or 7600k?

>>59137416
>purchased
You fucked up with the PSU and by not buying a SSD.

>>59137493

6500 and 7500 are for faggots while the 7600k is very recent.

>>59137493
I got a 6600k, it does perfect in every game I have
BUT it runs at 100% and stutters when I play games while streaming to myself
I would've gotten the 6700k if i were to do it again

>>59137507
>for faggots
Why?

How about the 6600k then?

>>59137514
I see.

>>59137370
>TN

>>59137416
>purchased
U goofed

>>59137527
>Why?

Because they can't be overclocked.

>How about the 6600k then?

It, and the 7600k that replaced it, is a fantastic CPU and the perfect balance between price and performance. I've got mine up to 4.5ghz and that's just tapping the gas pedal.

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>>59137584
I'm at 4.5GHz and 1.35v
Online people are going WAY beyond that (pic related, 6600ks and 6700ks) I'm just scared to floor it

Though apparently there's no point getting the 6700k since 7700k is better and cheaper?

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3647vs3502

Same can't be said for the 6600k to 7600k though, so anon did well it seems.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-7600K/3503vs3885

>>59137584
I personally don't plan on overclocking ever so the 6500 seems to suit me well. With that said I wouldn't mind a 6600k or even the 7600k as it's roughly "just" 50 more bucks. The problem is I'd probably forced to pick up an expensive MB with it, but that again, that could be fine. Real problem is I need to use Windows 7 and I don't think it'll work at all, nor will I be able to install it.

I can't afford Windows 10, so unless someone tells me it's been perfectly cracked and I can get it and install it in two clicks I'm in trouble (my budget is 950€ maximum - aiming for an i5 + RX 480).

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GKLWjc
Hows this? Should i upgrade to a version i can OC? Honestly think this might be overkill as it is. I dont need 4k or anything

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>>59137493
>Why no 6500, 7500 or 7600k?
I got it because it cost me only $5 more than the 7500, and it can actually be had for $179 at Microcenter but you have to pick it up. It is much cheaper than the 7600k but about on par with it because Kaby Lake wasn't a huge improvement. Like other k series CPUs, it is unlocked so it can be overclocked and reliably slow.

Of all the i5 processors, the 6600k is the 2nd best one to have. Pic related compared to the 7500.
At normal prices, if you don't plan on overclocking your CPU and having overclocked RAM, then people would recommend the 7500. But at the same price? 6600k for sure.

>>59137502
PSU I already have from an older build. It works. I can get an SSD anytime. I didn't see the need to shell out another $150 right now when PSU and SSD prices are either constant or falling.

>>59137602

I'm in the same boat. 4.5GHz @ 1.325V. I know the fuckers are fine up to 1.45V but I'm honestly too lazy to keep going.

It stings seeing people pulling 4.6 under 1.3V though. Wish I could do that but it just won't do it.

>>59137618
Windows 10 is perfectly uncracked and you can get it in two clicks from Microsoft website. Look up "Windows 10 installation media", install home version, don't activate it. You miss out on changing your taskbar color and have a small "activate Windows" watermark in the corner, that's it

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/NsdMpg

Please, give me suggestions on my potential first PC build. I have a Benq 24" 60hz 1080p monitor from last summer and a mechanical keyboard.
Is this a decent build to run most games such as skyrim and dark souls 3 at 60fps high/ultra 1080p?

I was wondering if I should take the plunge and just get a high end PC, though...

>>59137711
lol why would you not just run MSToolkit

>>59137676
I don't care what my voltage is, as long as my $20 cheapo cooler purchase works well enough, its justified
Seeing people successfully running above 1.52v (intels specified maximum) makes me feel a little better though

>>59137711
Wait, for free?

Surely there's more to this right? I don't see why they'd give their latest product for free if the only different is not able to change the color of the taskbar...

And hypothetically if I were to do that, would I need to burn it to then install it on my newly made computer? Or via USB perhaps? Though not sure they'd be activated by default.

>>59137635
The thing with your PSU is that it's a basic PSU for basic builds and not meant for higher-end OC builds.
I'd try to sell it for like 30-40 bucks and get something like a SeaSonic G or EVGA G2/3 and an appropriate SSD, it's really worth it.

>>59137731
So if I do this >>59137711 and run MSToolkit (just googled it) I can get Win10 for free and that's it?

How come hasn't Microsoft done anything about it if it's that easy to pirate it?

Any downside I'm overlooking here?

>>59137727
hello?

>>59137862
Hi

>>59137727
Yeah you would be able to do that no problem. You can run modded skyrim like a champ with 8GB VRAM.

I made some changes though to get you some better value. You're down to 8GB of RAM, but it's a higher frequency RAM. Tests show that 16GB shows marginal gains over 8GB at this point, with real gains happening only in content creation.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j9MPhq

Jesus, when are ddr4 prices going to stop going up? The shit now costs twice the amount I paid for it last summer.

Anyone have experience overclocking T-series processors? I could get an i5 6400T on ebay for less than $200 Canadian pesos which is a bargaon for an i5

>>59137901

I dunno but it's fucking bullshit.

I only bought 8GB when I built my system in October. Figured I could just pick up another 8GB kit down the road. Twelve hours after ordering the RAM went on sale and I remember being pissed that I overpaid by $10. That exact same kit has gone up almost $20 since then.

>>59137856
Yeah, that's what I did. Basically you just google "Windows 10 media creation tool" and get a spare flashdrive. Installing an OS is super easy. Then you run mstoolkit and iirc it runs a keygen and it authorizes Windows. Then you've got full windows.

MS knows it goes on but they don't care really. As long as it grows their market share, and as long as they can collect your data, they don't care.

>>59137899
oh and the CPU can be had for that price here
http://www.microcenter.com/product/451885/Core_i5-6600K_SkyLake_35_GHz_1151_Boxed_Processor

>>59137731
>Using third party software to activate yor OS
Geez is changing your taskbar color really that important?
>>59137745
The website will format and create a bootable USB of your choice if it's plugged in. It's free because it's Windows 10, they'd rather have people using Windows 10 for free than using another OS (and let's be realistic here, for free as well)

>>59137899
I didn't know that, thank you! Okay, I added the 8gb one instead of the 16gb. I just assumed the more numbers the better. I'm very new to this.

Also that cpu you added, why should I get that one?

>>59133735
No way you actually paid that much.

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>>59137969
>>59138008
Cheers anons, you guys just cleared up one of my biggest worries so far.

I guess I will do the jump to Win10 and let go of Win7 then as I really do not want to have to worry whether my OS will get detected or not. I'm a pleb and I wouldn't know what to do if I needed to update the bios of my future mobo.

I'll consider getting either a 7500 or a 6600k too now instead of a 6500.

>>59138008
>Geez is changing your taskbar color really that important?
it's mstoolkit lmfao

>>59138041
>I didn't know that, thank you! Okay, I added the 8gb one instead of the 16gb. I just assumed the more numbers the better. I'm very new to this.
16GB is nice to have, but you probably wont notice much of a difference unless you're a streamer. Higher frequency RAM does make a difference though.

>Also that cpu you added, why should I get that one?
Because it's a better processor for cheaper. It's unlocked, meaning that it can be overclocked. The i5 2500k was released over 6 years ago, but it is still a usable processor today because it can be overclocked well.

>>59138156
Yeah it's "ms toolkit", not "Microsoft toolkit"

>>59137625
Add about $250 if you plan on OC. Up to you to decide if its worth it

>>59138156
Alright, I will take your advice and go for the 8gb memory. I am not the expert and you know more than me.

The CPU is nice since it's $179 at microcenter and I have one 30min away from me. But two questions. I don't think I plan to overclock and if I do get this CPU don't I need a cooler?

>>59138276
If you overclock youll need a cooler

>>59138058
just know about the different motherboard chipsets

B150 & Z170 = Skylake
B250 & Z270 = Kaby Lake

You can get a Z170 motherboard for the 7500, but you would have to update the bios which would probably be a pain in the ass for you. It'll show as compatible on pcpartpicker, but be aware.

6600k = z170 mobo (for overclocking and higher frequency RAM support)
7500 = B250 mobo (doesn't support faster RAM, or OC, but on a locked CPU it doesn't matter)

>>59138174
what i mean is, mstoolkit is just well-known basic software that everyone uses
if the idea of using mstoolkit bothers you then you're new to installing windows

>>59138290
Ok, looks like it's a better CPU for less price. Looks like I'm taking a trip to microcenter tomorrow.

>>59138276
That CPU doesn't come with a cooler, so you'll need to buy one. The k series Intel processors don't. I picked the 212 Evo because it's a reliable CPU cooler and it's cheap.

Even if you got a locked CPU, I would still recommend an aftermarket cooler over the stock fan. The stock Intel fans are garbage. They're loud, poorly made, and not reliable. They're fine if you're in a pinch, but otherwise I'd stay away. Also, CPU coolers are one of the few investments in a build you can make that will last for several builds.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/NsdMpg

Alright, any other changes I should do? >>59138290

>>59138353
Thanks again.

Regarding the brand, for the RX 480 I heard the ASUS one was the best, followed by the Power Color and MSI Gaming X ones; can you or someone confirm?

For the RAM, I plan on getting 8GB DDR4-3000; sounds good?

Implying I go with the 6600k and thus need to buy a z170 mobo, what brand should I get? I see a bunch of different ones (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ...).

>>59138404
Alright, I didn't know I needed a CPU cooler at all since I'm not overclocking.
Well, what's a good one to get. A cooler master I guess?

>>59138353
Adding to >>59138422.

If I go with a 7500 and a B250 mobo as you recommended me, should I not get
>8GB DDR4-300
for my RAM then? Since you just said it doesn't support faster RAM.

Are higher frequency RAMs only useful is one were to overclock their CPU?

>>59138422
>Regarding the brand, for the RX 480 I heard the ASUS one was the best, followed by the Power Color and MSI Gaming X ones; can you or someone confirm?
XFX GTR > MSI Gaming X >>>>> Asus STRIX OC >>>>>>> Sapphire Nitro+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power Color

The MSI one you have in your parts list is good.

>For the RAM, I plan on getting 8GB DDR4-3000; sounds good?
See the first part of this post.

>Implying I go with the 6600k and thus need to buy a z170 mobo, what brand should I get? I see a bunch of different ones (ASUS, MSI, Gigabyte, ...).
Brand isn't particularly important, imo. Just go off of what the m8s on pcpartpicker say about the boards. Keep in mind how many USB ports you want as well. Hell, if you're getting a windowed case, get the z170 board that looks coolest to you.

>>59138483
>Are higher frequency RAMs only useful is one were to overclock their CPU?
Basically correct. If you're not using an unlocked CPU then you won't really need the overclocked RAM.

>>59138483

RAM marketing is a little misleading.

You aren't buying faster RAM, you're buying binned RAM - meaning it's tested to have a stable overclock up to the advertised values. It's just a feature in the BIOS that you can automatically overclock your RAM to the advertised values, but you can also overclock it manually above advertised frequencies. The tail end of this is that if your motherboard doesn't support overclocking then it won't let you overclock the RAM either so you get stuck at the lowest frequency.

>>59138545
second that
XFX with hot swapable fans for the long run
good performance and easy to clean when the time comes or if you into that you can add led fans on them

>>59138545
The XFX GTR is $206 right now on jet.com too with the code triple15. I just bought one.

>>59138615
>XFX GTR is $206 right now on jet.com
Damn son. Kinda jelly since I got mine about a month ago for $240

>>59138545
>XFX GTR > MSI Gaming X >>>>> Asus STRIX OC >>>>>>> Sapphire Nitro+ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Power Color
Not him but why do you think so badly of the Sapphire Nitro?

>>59138545
>The MSI one you have in your parts list is good.
Oh I'm not the other anon, sorry for the misunderstanding. Still thanks for the advice!

>>59138562
>RAM
Got it thank you both.

Honestly I might never end up overclocking my CPU so I might end up going for the 7500. I noticed by going down the 7500 route the other parts also end up costing less which would make the whole thing less expensive than if I were to go down the 6600k route. I'm not the richest person, and I don't live in the US either (EU here) so I don't have access to cheap 6600k. Thoughts?

I still have a week or two left before ordering so it's still subject to change.

>>59138679
It's solid, has a high clock out of the box, but it runs too hot and doesn't overclock well.

>>59138763
That i know, it just looked like you portrayed it worse than it is, guess i missunderstood.

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Considering upgrading my computer from what I have to a new case, mobo and graphics card. This is kind of what the new build would look like. Is this good or bad?

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what's a good mATX case sub-$100? Looking for industiral no-nonsense design, decently small size, good airflow.

>>59139001
n200

>>59138969
see
>>59138615

save some money

>>59139001
Phantex eclipse

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/g/ I am trying to build this computer for my wife because she wants to get rid of her laptop because it is a piece of shit. In other words I want my computer back the spoiled brat is on it all day doing homework or playing games. I have set this build up but I dont know about the motherboard pcpartpicker is saying I may have to update the bios for the CPU to be compatible how the hell am I to do that without a CPU in the MOBO?

here is the part list https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MxFWjc

If anyone can recommend a better mobo that would work out of box that would be great but I want this to be a micro ATX build.

P.S I already have a hard drive and power supply.

>>59139097
I'm less worried about the money here since i'm only buying the case mobo and card, everything else I already have in my current build but I'll check it out if I go with the build. More looking to find out if it even looks like a sensible or good build.


Also why is it damn impossible to find a decent LGA1155 mobo?

>>59122941
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRGmRG

I just changed the RAM to 2x4GB because dual channel. This RAM also clocks a little higher, whether or not it matters.

>>59139154
My budget is $900 us dollars by the way, but if someone can make this build cheaper go for it. Also when are the R3's and R5's supposed to drop from AMD I would much rather give them my money.

>>59139221
Stop falling for /g/ memes

>>59139207
>This RAM also clocks a little higher
Doesn't matter, you can't go higher than 2400 anyways. I chose the single channel because the mobo only has two slots and with dual channel you'd require a new kit to upgrade.

>>59139238
No I really would intel has been price gouging the shit out of us, and that R3 1400x 4 core 8 thread for $199 on par with some I7 cpus sounds fucking awesome. Intel has been butt fucking us too long because AMD let them.

>>59120066
That pc is heckin wierd
Also nice dubs

>>59137082
Ark is horribly optimized lmao don't buy that piece of shit the developer is garbage

>>59139302
it looks like 2 computers stacked in one case
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>59137017
do yourself a favor and get a microatx case/mid tower instead of a full tower

What kind of mobo do i need for 7600k? I dont plan on OC but id like the option in the future. Will my b250m work?

I don't mean to sound like a rushy dick her and I know I'm not entitled to shit, but my wife will be home from work soon and this computer is supposed to be a surprise. Can someone look at this and recommend a better mobo? and you know also check to see if I'm retarded and picking retarded parts.
>>59139154

>>59139001
literally the case in ur pic

>>59139331
which B250M anon? also if you don't plan to overclock get a non K cpu and save some money.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/f3tmRG

Any tips?

>>59137017
Why is he spending 100 dollars on Windows 8?

>>59139358
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PZjWGX/msi-b250m-gaming-pro-micro-atx-lga1151-motherboard-b250m-gaming-pro

>>59139331

You need Z270 to overclock. Period.

B250 won't do it, you'll be paying extra on your CPU for a feature you'll never be able to use.

>>59139364
tips?

1070 or a 480?????

>>59139386
Cool thanks

>>59139364
Don't buy windows thepiratebay.org search windows 10 torrent it. Also look into mushkin for ssd instead best price to performance ratio. the evo's are kinda slow, but overall still looks solid.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VW4Fpb

>>59139412
Windows is there just for refence mostly, i have several keys hanging around, just need to find one that is no longer bound to a machine.

How slow are the 850evos compared to the 840pros? im running two 250GB 840pros on my dieing machine.

>>59139402
1070 if within budget.

>>59139439
so for this build with my 1080p 60hz should i go 480, 1060, or 1070?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/NsdMpg

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>>59139436
here you go mushkin is really worth it if you ass out for the 1TB reactor controller awesome SSD been running well for a year for me.

>>59139461
I would def stick with the 480 however save some extra cash and pick up a 4gb version it will be awhile before you need 8 gb frame buffer for 1080p. 1070 is overkill unless you get a 144hz monitor.

>>59139469
The speeds sound fine to me and samsung has kinda caught my attention for the reliability on their ssds so im probably gonna stick to it.

>>59139497
Alright.
Damn this PC stuff is hard for me. So many damn decisions. I'd save $30 going to 4gb it looks like. Okay, if this won't make games run worse then I'll do it.

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>>59139542
not a bad choice I was just recommending the 1 TB mushkin really because it is so cheap at 249.99 for 1TB and performance is not bad.

>>59139461
Micro ATX board for a mid-tower?

>>59139591
I just noticed that.
What should I go with lol...

>>59139569
not in the slightest my friend that rx 480 will be obsolete before games start needing a 8gb framebuffer at 1080p anyway. look into freesync monitors viewsonic makes some good freesync monitors cheap.

>>59139604
A Z170 board.

>>59139579
any advice on the motherboard?
That one is a micro-atx, but i could go with a atx one i guess, not really gonna use more than 1 gpu tho

>>59139617
Is a 1070 a necessity for two 1440p monitors (never gaming on both, but maybe a game on one and YouTube on the other)?

>>59139659
>Z170
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s9Gj4D/msi-motherboard-b150gamingm3

like this?

Can the ryzen 7 1700 be overclocked

>>59120582
WATERCOOLERS DO NOT WORK
I REPEAT, THEY DO NOT WORK
They are literally the """BIGGEST""" scam for cooling your CPU. They are priced 4x(4 TIMES) air coolers and they literally work the SAME if not WORSE
Jesus chreist check benchmarks b4 u fall for the """watercooling""" meme

>>59139708

Dude, it says "B150" right there in the title.

>>59139679
I have a 1440p rog swift with a 980 ti and it runs most games on ultra above 60 fps and the 1070 is a bit slower/faster so a 1070 should be just fine. If you are going for 1440p 60hz though a rx 480 might meet your needs for a lower cost but a 1070 will help future proof a bit.

>>59139717
My watercooler was only $80 faggot

>>59139731
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F9Gj4D/msi-motherboard-z170agamingm5

>>59139661
depends on what form factor you want do you want a small set up or medium sized/large motherboard choice doesn't matter so much just make sure you get a quality board. gigabyte boards are rock solid.

>>59139710
they all have unlocked multipliers so yes the entire ryzen line will be overclockable

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>>59139351
but it's glossy. matte is $20 more.

>>59139076
Was looking into that one. Know how it compares to Fractal Mini C? Mini C is looking like the right choice for me.

Here's the build I'm looking at. first I've done in about 8 years or so. been running on thinkpads these days, but wanting for a stationary desktop with a dedicated windows boot (no HDD space on my laptops). Don't play new vidya, if it can run Hearts of Iron 3 and Stalker, send anime/MAME to a CRT TV, and support dual monitor (both 1080p) high frequency shitposting, I'm contented. idk if this all works together (or if the GPU/CPU is overkill) I just followed the 'good' tier of the falcon guide linked in the OP, not sure if it's up to date. can I get a vote of confidence?

& I apologize for the spoonfeed cancer, I haven't been /g/ for quite a few years now.

>>59139756
A tinier board gives me more freedom to cleanup dust and shit, so i guess im sticking to it then.

>>59139717
I have a h80i on my 15 4690k overclocked to 4.7 ghz and it doesn't break 50c you have no idea what you are talking about.

>>59139746
>Paying more than 30$ for a cooler that is going to be more than enough to keep your CPU at 30 degrees @idle while OC'd
80$ is not a steal but its a scam

>>59139775

Ditch the air cooler, the CPU comes with one.

Probably gonna want an SSD too.

>>59139775
you will have to buy a adapter to hook it up to a crt tv, and that graphics card is overkill for what you want. Pick up a used amd 7970 off ebay for dirt cheap and go for a Pentium cpu.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/NsdMpg

Okay, do I buy this now?

>>59139805
Yeah, was just thinking that actually. Had an i5 7500 up there originally but it seemed unnecessary.

& yea I have an 128GB SSD someone gave me lying around somewhere. couldn't figure out how to set the "purchased" option on pc parts picker to include it. Though honestly, I don't see the value in them - I'd rather take HDD space over boot time and app load time any day, I hate that suddenly laptops are back to 256GB like it's 2004 again, that's not even enough to fit 1/8 of my movie collection and fuck relying on NAS or any cloud shit.

Quick question, are there any benefits between displayport and hdmi? The monitor im getting comes with a display port cable but not hdmi,(it supports both tho) I plan to use the monitors built in speakers.

Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mgQCqk

>>59139862
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8DkGtJ
you buy this now

>>59139966
can you explain the changes please?

>>59139941
get rid of the ridiculous "Gamer motherboard" and put the extra money towards a 1080 and your GTG.