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>>59084379
Update that OP, nigga
>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.
>Consider using an i5 7500 in any RX470/480 or GTX 1060 tier build
>Consider stock fan+heatsink for any i3 or locked i5 build without a Z mobo
>Consider a B250 or mobo for any Pentium or i3 build
Are all garbage now
>Substitute DelidLake Bentium and Core i3 with Ryzen R3 1200X or R3 1100 for FOUR ACTUAL FUCKING CORES
>Consider suicide if using an i5 7500 when Ryzen 5 1400X costs the same, has SMT, and can be overclocked with a $70 motherboard
>Consider suicide for any i3 or i5 build with any mobo
>Consider a B350 mobo for any Ryzen build
Ryzen 3 1100 (4c/4t) = $130 = Core i3-7100 (2c/4t)
Ryzen 3 1200X (4c/4t) = $150 = Core i3-7300 (2c/4t)
Ryzen 5 1300 (4c/8t) = $175 = Core i3-7350K (2c/4t)/Core i5-7400 (4c/4t)
Ryzen 5 1400X (4c/8t) = $200 = Core i5-7500 (4c/4t)
Ryzen 5 1500 (6c/12t) = $230 = Core i5-7600 (4c/4t)
Ryzen 5 1600X (6c/12t) = $260 = Core i5-7600K (4c/4t)

>>59084682
You forget that r5 isn't coming out for 2-3 months, r3 in 6 months and there are zero unsponsored benches released.
Enjoy your waiting, cuck.

>>59084725
Enjoy your dead socket Jew
Intel's rushing the next mainstream socket because of this
SHIT
UPGRADE
PATH
Meanwhile, AM4 will support Zen+

Gaming and possibly streaming so want the i7, budget can go anywhere up to 2k dollars
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTb9XH
Last thread was almost ded so i ask is there anything wrong with the list? Im new to PC stuff and i really am not sure, also if theres anything cheaper that wont affect quality of the build, if not ill just pay the price. Thank you

>>59084827
>Gaming and possibly streaming
So you don't want that i7. Four cores is not enough for gaming and streaming these days.
Swap it out for an i7-6800K and a cheap X99 motherboard.
Of buy a six-core $260 Ryzen 5 1600X and a $100 X370 motherboard

Should i go with this one : https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wWCkRG

or this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DKQ2Z8

>>59084943
i5 and rx480 ftw if you don't want to wait for zen

>>59084682
I'll be including some example Ryzen builds, but right now there's no way a $70 G4560 is getting replaced with a $300 R7

Eventually the CPU tiers will probably look like this:

>G4560 + 1050/460/1050Ti
>1100/1200X + 1050Ti/470/480/1060
>1400X + 470/480/1060/1070

>1600X for VM gaming build possibly, but the lack of iGP is annoying

>>59084745
Anyone on LGA1151 is fine, since they'll likely be able to get a cheap i7 in the near future. Anyway $150 isn't a big deal to a lot of people

>>59084827
If you're streaming you should probably get Ryzen. At least wait for a few benches

>>59084943
Drop the i3 to the G4560

>>59085065
Why would you spend $70 on a dual-core when you can buy an overclockable four core for just $30 more and replace that chip with an 8-core later down the line? Where's the logic in this?

>>59085065
>At least wait for a few benches
They're already out. Ryzen cores are almost on par with Kaby Lakes at the same IPC. In fact, it might have more IPC per core at the same clock if the single-threaded benchmarks are anything to go by. The only advantage Kaby Lake has is its higher potential clock, but Ryzen can overclock to about 4.6GHz on all cores with proper cooling.

Can you please check my ITX build? Any comment is more than welcome

https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/4b7bGf

look good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jpQJqk.

>>59084379
for a SFP connection what do i need to extend a link more than 10m? I know that copper is limited to 10m one way or another, active or passive, so what do i need to take advantage of the fiber connections?
Really would like to get my NAS and desktop connected using the 10gb speeds

>>59085106
>when you can buy an overclockable four core for just $30
Because you can't, rumored price of cheapest 4c / 4t is $120, almost twice as much

Anyway, someone who wants a low end CPU in the beginning will likely be happy with 4c / 8t as his max upgrade

>>59085306
Seems like you already bought almost everything

>>59085658
>not found

>>59085737
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jpQJqk

>>59085801
Need B250 and 2400MHz RAM

>>59085832
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NJNCqk

ill probably add a network card from my old computer as well

>>59085878
Throw in a 240GB SSD like in the OP builds and you're good

>>59085902
nah i cant afford the luxury of an ssd yet

>>59085926
It's like $75 m8

>>59085926
Drop to 4GB 470 and get the SSD then. 8GB is too much for the 480 anyway

>>59085955
ssd isnt much of a priority for me right now. i will add one later down the line for sure
>>59085936
you're right i could go for a 4GB 470 and save some cash

>>59084379
So here is the build I was going to go with.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/XMorbius/saved/Ny6XLk

The LinusTechTips (I know, forgive me) from the AMD briefing mentioned that an i7 7700k was dropping frames while streaming Dota 2. So I'm thinking of moving to Ryzen or an i7 with more cores. Thoughts?

>>59085306
>>59085737

Actually no, those are only the best prices that I've found.
I'm asking for advice before pulling the trigger.
I'm thinking about switching the WD hard drive with a Hitachi Travelstar 7200 rpm.
Moreover, I'm not sure about the 1070: I'm aiming at 1440p but 60 fps are not a requirement.
The next step is choosing a good monitor.

>1600x isn't releasing for 3 months

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

From the following list, which tier would allow me to play every recent game with standard setting? I have no idea where to start.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

>>59086208
Look at the other list in the OP, retard

I need some cheap ddr4 2133 ram, any recommendations?

>>59086548
>sort by price
>check mobo for compatibility
Done

>>59085955
>8GB is too much for the 480 anyway

Shit seriously? I'm about to order the 8gb too.

should I fall for the ryzen hype train or wait for an Intel response

>>59084379
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZJKbGf
I'm going to swap the i5 for an R5 whenever they release.

>>59086898
Get the 8GB, don't cuck yourself with 4 GB of VRAM.

>>59086944
It's fine, but that won't be for a few months, so come back later. At that point you'll probably want the RX580

>>59086922
Depends on how badly you need a new CPU/platform

>>59086898
In my opinion. Really 6GB is most you'd want. Some games need more than 4GB (RotTR for instance) on Ultra, but you're going to have a hard time keeping playable framerates with a 480 tier gfx card. The Uber settings in Mirror's Edge Catalyst are a prime example of this. Unplayable unless you're using an 8GB 1070 or 1080.

So really you're looking at 4GB 470, 4GB 480, 6GB 1060 in terms of cost effectiveness.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9MnDf8
I'm in USA and mainly want to use this pc for gaming. Don't want to spend more than 500 because i also need a monitor and keyboard. Any criticism about quality would be appreciated.

>>59085991

This is me. Should I switch to Ryzen or bump up to a better i7

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>>59084379
Would you pay 175 bucks for an untested CPU from a recycled PC? It's pretty unlikely that the CPU was the reason the PC was recycled, and as long as it was in the socket it shouldn't have been harmed before someone who knows what he's doing took it out, right?

>>59087062
It's shit, absolute shit. The only Pentium worth getting is the G4560 because it's hyperthreaded ( 2c / 4t). The Pentium you picked is 2c / 2t, which will cause horrible stuttering in many games, especially when paired with a 1060.

Get a G4560 + B250 + 2400 DDR4 and come back

Also you can easily get a $50 used 23-24" 1080p monitor. 21" is too small

>>59087078
Either option is fine from a performance standpoint. Ryzen will be the better option

>>59087106
Obviously a gamble, but likely it's fine.

>>59086898
8GB'll last you the lifetime of the card (3-5 years)

Anything less and you'll be in danger of cucking yourself, especially with the 1060 and 480 both setting the bar for devs to aim for in terms of vram use.

And the 1080ti and Vega are virtually guaranteed to have more than 8GB of vram

>>59087182
I have to disagree with this line of reasoning. Another example is For Honor, which uses about 2GB at max settings at 1080p. If super sampling is engaged, the game uses a little under 4GB, but framerates sit below 20FPS most of the time. Yeah, 8GB is only a few more dollars, but it's definitely unnecessary since the PS4 Pro only has 8GB total for system+VRAM combined

>>59087282
If there wasn't any intent to massively increase vram usage, neither nvidia nor amd would be adding so much vram to their boards.

But they're going crazy with it, and they're doing that because high resolution textures and high resolution displays are coming down the pipe. People don't just want 4k game resolution. They want 4k textures, too. That shit eats up a lot of vram; 4GB is not enough.

I'd only consider 4GB's for short-term cards. Something you only intend to have for two years or less before upgrading. Two years from now, 8GB vram will be standard.

>>59087326
Standard =/= necessary
We can't certainly predict the future, but the limits on RAM as defined by consoles are a good indicator. Anyway those powerful cards will be for 1440p and above, where the extra VRAM is useful

4GB will certainly not make a 470 or 480 useless for 1080p gaming within the next 5yrs, but maybe some eyecandy or performance boost (RE7 shadow cache) will be missing, who knows.

>>59087418
The gaming standard is now 1440p
4k if you're rich

5 years from now it'll probably be something ridiculous like 8k

How long do you think a 1070 will last for 1080p gaming and maybe 1440p?

>>59087490
5 years

3 years in you'll want to upgrade, 5 years in you pretty much can't help but upgrade, as even a cheapo $100 card will be as good or better.

Maybe cut that time down a bit if vulkan/dx12 takes off.

>>59087490
At 1080p, not much longer than the 1060/480. The 1070 is obviously only one tier above, and the next consoles will be significantly more powerful than the 1070, meaning that the 1060 and 1070 will be made obsolete at around the same time.

The 1070 is a 1440p card that will last for 3 - 5 years, depending on your standards

>>59087475
>5 years from now it'll probably be something ridiculous like 8k

Yeah, 8k to 10k is where it's gonna max out. 8k at 27" is retina quality.

I'm completely new to any type of PC building. Right now, I'm doing a lot of video editing on a Macbook Air, and since doing anything longer than 7 minutes in FCP X (other software doesn't run well) is basically impossible on that machine I'm looking to upgrade.

Guides for specs for video editing usually come down to "buy an iMac" or "interested in video editing? check out our gaming rig specs". Since I find iMacs to be too expensive for what they are and am not sure about those gaming rigs I'd like to ask you guys if you know what would be good specs for video editing or if you knew about any good guides. Should the specs be similar to those of a gaming rig?

>>59087782
Depends on how much you have to spend, but any 8c / 16t Ryzen will be great for editing

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>>59087782
Yeah follow similar specs as gaming but prioritize higher core count vs. higher clock speed when it comes to the processor and consider PCIe SSDs for faster read/write speed.

Go intel i7 or wait for Ryzen 1800x benchmarks.

>>59087809
>>59087859
The maximum I'd like to spend is around €2000 (which would still be cheaper than a mac). Could I get something good with a budget like that?

How much should I expect to spend on 2 monitors?

>>59087892
Not sure about europe's availability and pricing but $2k usd could get you a very nice setup.

i7 7700k + RX480 comes to mind if you want something now. You should probably wait to see if Ryzen will be any decent if you can however.

For monitors 1080p with low framerates (60-75hz) are fairly cheap. 1440p/1080 ultrawide are middle of the road and 1440 ultrawide/high refresh rate/4k monitors are expensive. It really depends on what you want in a monitor(s).

>>59087968
Thanks. Since I'll probably be getting two monitors, would it be recommendable to get one 4K monitor (main display) and one 1080p monitor (side menus etc)? Or does combining those two just lead to awkwardness?

>>59088108
This comes down to personal preference really. That and desk/wall real estate.

Personally I like the clean desk look and went from 3x 1080p to 2x 1200p, and now have a single 1440. I've gotten used to the size adjustment. I think this year I may go with single 1440 ultrawide. I enjoy the look of a single monitor setup but you may have different tastes.

>>59088108
Forgot to add that mismatching resolutions won't be too much of an issue unless you are OCD about font sizes being different on each screen.

I have a RX 480 8GB and I want to play Overwatch at 144hz 1080p. Lowering settings is fine.

Should I go with an i5 7500 now, or wait until Ryzen 5? The i5 7500 is $200, and the cheapest Ryzen 5 is $175. If I go Intel, should I go with a Z mobo, or is B250 fine?

>>59088241
If you want it now the i5 should do the trick. b series board is fine if you don't plan on upgrading to an unlocked CPU in the future.

You should probably wait to see what Ryzen has to offer, but that could be a while for R5.

Gonna be getting an rx480 later in the year and a lower end ryzen cpu. What should I do in terms of cooling? Watercooling seems like overkill. I've only ever dealt with igpus/generally empty cases so my single fan was enough to keep things cool. So would two fans be enough? Also, is it recommended that I get a separate heatsink? Or should the stock one be enough? I don't need any fancy leds.

>>59088476
If you don't plan on overclocking the stock fan is perfectly fine.Just make sure your case has two fans one intake and one exhaust and keep it clean.

If you do plan on overclocking decide how much you want to spend and do some research. Way too many options for cooling to give a be-all-end-all solution.

are there any good resources on best laptops for each price range? can't find any

>>59088852
Depends on what you mean by "good" but >>>/g/tpg/ is around here somewhere

>>59088753
Thanks a bunch man. I'm not planning on doing any overclocking so just two should be fine then, right?

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>>59089177
That will be plenty. Tip for your fan setup: Exhaust fans should be mounted at the rear or top of the case, intake at the front or bottom. Make sure all intake fans have a dust filter in front of them and you won't have to clean your case out as often.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VyhdtJ

I already bought the psu, (Evga 500w 80+) my question is on the mobo. Am I losing anything by getting this B105 with wifi instead of a Atx or Micro atx without, even though I would have to buy a wifi network adapter?
This is for mid level gaming and school mostly.

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($210.26 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B150I GAMING PRO AC Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Jet)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($120.47 @ Amazon)
Storage: PNY CS1311 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.75 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB WINDFORCE OC 6G Video Card ($264.28 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($58.64 @ Amazon)
Total: $852.38

>>59089340
Need B250
240GB SSD
Ugly case

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>>59089340
No you aren't losing anything but consider the fact that your case is sized for a full ATX board and you are getting an ITX mobo. The whole point of ITX is usually to build a compact system. I would consider a full ATX sized board if you want that case. They make those with wifi and they will have better expandability.

Right now your setup will look goofy like pic related.

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H-how'd I do /g/?

I'll be swapping my 1070 GTX, 128gb Samsung 840 evo ssd, and 1TB WD Black HDD over to it. Selling my current setup for $500 with my old 280x in it that has issues but usually works (buyer knows about the issues)

Old setup getting sold for $500:
FX8320 with hyper 212 cooler
ASUS 280X
ASUS 990FX R2.0
12gb corsair ddr 1600mhz
256gb corsair ssd
corsair tx850m psu
haf 912 case

>>59089410
Should I just get a smaller case? like https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2kTrxr/phanteks-case-phes215pbk
>>59089375
Ok
No
Maybe

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kGnfRG
what do you think?

>>59089572
Why are you buying a i5-6500 with a stock cpu cooler and another cpu cooler? Spend the same money and get the 7500

>>59089616
ok any else?

>>59089553
You could but it looks like you have a full sized graphics card that likely won't fit in an ITX case. I believe Gigabyte makes an ITX 1060 so consider that.

Also if using an ATX PSU in an ITX case it will be a pain to get the cabling looking decent if the case even supports that size at all.

This is why I personally prefer ATX builds in general. Hardly any clearance/compatibility issues.

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so I have a non ryzen specific.

I bought this ram, it was almost a year ago. was thinking about doubling it up.

The thing is. Its literally double the price it was in april, and its still one of the cheapest 32GB kits available. What's the deal, I've never heard of prices going up this consistantly over this long a period of time....

>>59089754
>specific question.
fixed*

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JWkZjc

Waiting for Ryzen 5 to come out to see if I should switch my CPU. How does everything else look though? On the fence about getting an RX 480 since I've heard mixed things about performance though.

>>59089664
Pcpart picker had that new case at 13 inches clearance and that card at ~9 inches, and it looks like my psu is still good too, at least according to them. I guess Ill deal with the cable management the best I can. Thanks

I'm pretty stupid when it comes to building a computer, what system could I build that could play warthunder and world of warships on high settings with at least 80 fps.?

>>59089820
anything from the mid 1990's would probably work.

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If anyone cares, newegg is having a sale http://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/17-1147/index.html?cm_mmc=SNC-Facebook-_-Sale-_-Feb-Blowout-_-022317

>>59089820
Why 80fps? Also, most likely anything in the budget range would be fine

>>59089536
any feedback /g/? I kind of rushed through this buying spree at work today

>>59089927
Looks good.

Personally I don't agree with preordering things before we know their performance but its your money.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or CRYORIG H7? I have a i5 4690 so can't overclock it, just want to make my rig quieter.

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Any reason I should buy Gaymer Heatsink Ultra dissipation RAM instead of pic related? I can probably DIY transfer heatsinks of older ddr3 modules anyway.

Also, why is DDR4 rising in price again? Did another factory go up in flames?

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>>59090138
I guess it's like having VRMs with no heatsinks. I can feel that my RAM's warm when I touch it, but I don't think it's going to catch fire if the heatsink wasn't there. No harm in having cooler components though.

Phones are also using DDR4 now apparently.

>>59090138
If you don't care about the aesthetic then no it doesn't make a difference.

Something about cell phone companies demanding more ram all of a sudden and there being a general shortage.

What's a good low profile cpu cooler?

>>59089754
bumping for thoughts on this

I'm giving away my 1150 4690k to my mom because I'm getting ryzen+am4 board and I need a new case for it.

Any cheap low profile case for a regular ATX case?

Going for a black aesthetic for my build. Which version of the RX 480 should I get if I'm going for that over the GTX 1060?

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500
Motherboard: MSI B250 PC MATE
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8 (2x4 GB) DDR4-2400
HHD: Toshiba P300 2TB
SSD: PNY 240GB
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB Windforce OC
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400
PSU: EVGA SuperNova G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24" 1920x1080
Keyboard: Ducky One (Cherry MX Reds)

how does this look guys?

>>59091421
XFX has some RX 480s with a black backplate.

>>59091656
How worth is it to get the Sapphire Nitro+ OC model of the RX 480? What about the MSI Armor?

Still mulling about whether or not I want to get the 480 over the 1060 but I figured I want my shit to last so I should get AMD instead, especially if Ryzen 5 turns out to be good.

>>59091656
Would you reccomend the 4G or the 8G version of the 480?

>>59088241
>>59088284
r5 and vega out at the same time?

>>59092048
Not that anony but 8gb preferably. Althought the sapphire 4gb version is tempting for $180 at newegg.

>>59092080
I'll probably just go with the 8GB then. Is there any particular model that you would recommend out of the RX 480 8GBs?

>>59092103
SAPPHIRE's Nitro+

>>59092179
>Sapphire Nitro+
>$260
Not the anon you are replying to but he could just get a 1060 for that price.

Im doing my first pc build and had some questions. If someone would be kind enough to share their opinions id be grateful
>Will an i5 be enough to power a gaming rig without an upgrade in the foreseeable future?
I waited on ryzen but it is just as expensive as the i7
>Do I need both a Ssd and mechanical memory?
I was told to buy 2tb mechanical and 250 ssd for performance. Was this good advice?
>Will my existing 47inch TV suffice for a monitor?
I am on somewhat of a budget and this seemed like a good place to shave a few hundred. I will buy a dedicated monitor in the future but will this be an acceptable stopgap?

>>59092241
Wait for Ryzen 5 before buying a CPU. Ryzen 7 just came out which is basically AMD's version of the i7s.

Yes it is.

You should probably get a monitor used if you are on a budget. If your monitor is too big the pixels will spread and it won't look good at all. If you are really pinching pennies, settle for a 21.5" or so.

What if i just chromecasted my pc so i can game on the big screen. Would the lag be unbearable?

I want to build a new PC for 1080 ultra gaming. I've got an 8GB Asus RX480. The R7 seems like overkill to me. Should I wait for the R5s to launch?

Help me /pcbg/, I'm incredibly indecisive. GTX 1060 6G or RX 480 8GB?

>>59091122
Cryorig C7

>>59092103
Get the XFX GTR 480 8GB. I have it. It is a beauty.

>>59092673
What games do you plan on playing? How much is longevity a concern for you?

>>59092741
I mostly play a combination of strategy games, FPSs, and RPGs. I would usually like to upgrade every 3-4 years or so (possibly 5 if money is tight). I would prefer to have something that lasts thought (60 fps is preferable, but I can deal with ~30 fps) I've just been stuck with a shitty laptop for so long I want to play some modern games without running at ~10 fps.

>>59092728
The only worry I have with that is that its more or less the same price as a 1060, which defeats the purpose of getting a 480.

>>59092792
Like what games specifically? Some games run better on the 480 and others on the 1060

>>59092528
Seems like you'll get better price to performance if you wait. If the benches and price turn out to be accurate. You have to decide how much up to 3 months of gaming is worth to you. I've just dove in with an i5, but I'm hoping to use my pc for work so I should make more than I spent extra in that time

>>59092827
You expect me to know exactly what games I want to play for the next several years?

>>59092806
>defeats the purpose of getting a 480
Nah, the 480 is only slightly cheaper but has better performance in some games, much better DX12 performance, and crossfire capability. The 480 is more future-proof because more VRAM, crossfire capability and DX12 performance.

>>59092865
Oh ok I know what you mean. How does this list look? I'm still waiting on R5 in Q2 to see if it is better than the i5-7500 by the way.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8hqtHN

>>59092845
Just throw some fucking names out man, I'm trying to help you out. CSGO? Overwatch? DOTA2? Some of these competitive games you'll be playing for some years probably.

>>59092902
I have Overwatch and CSGO but I don't play CS that often. I don't play DOTA2. Was thinking of playing the new Total War, The Witcher 3, Deus Ex, Dark Souls 3, Metal Gear 5, Civ 6, ect...

I don't play a lot of competitive games besides stuff like Battlerite and Insurgency. Basically stuff I can play with my friends.

How much would you buy a pc on craigslist with
I7 6700
8gb 2400mhz
Rx 480 4gb
500w 80+ bronze
1tb hdd

>>59092899
Your build looks good.
You will want a CPU cooler even if you go Ryzen. I recommend the Cryorig H7 for a quiet fan, high performance, and great value (also dope looks in a windowed case).
Consider 144hz if you play FPS games competitively. You can get one for around $200. You should be able to run Overwatch, CSGO, TF2, Rocket League, and Dota 2 at 144hz with good settings.

>>59092955
>I recommend the Cryorig H7 for a quiet fan
Thank you, will add.
>Consider 144hz if you play FPS games competitively.
I don't really play games competitively so I don't think I need it. I might upgrade down the line but for now I'm fine with 60hz.

>>59092928
You'll get about 10% more frames out of Overwatch, but otherwise the performance is about the same on all of those games.

If you want a performance bump in Overwatch, go 1060. If you want more longevity from your GPU, go 480.

Definitely go for the higher VRAM variants of either card. VRAM usage seems to just get exponentially higher in recent years. In late 2013, 4GB VRAM sounded like overkill, but now that is the minimum you want. It is worth the price premium.

>>59093034
I don't play Overwatch that much and I like to get the most cost-efficent thing anyways so I think I'll just go AMD on this one. With Ryzen 5 right around the corner too, I might just get their CPU and mobo as well to go along with it. I'll have to wait and see though.

>>59092948
450

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>Thought a 6600k was good enough for gaymen
>It is
>Was not aware streaming real-time games over the Internet was a thing
>6600k is not good enough for that
Fuck, I thought I had my build perfect but I guess I got meme'd with the i5. Or meme'd with the "multicore is useless" meme, one of those two.
How do I solve this? I don't want to have to buy a new motherboard and Ryzen or some $600 Intel CPU just to be able to stream Fallout on ultra on my laptop at school

>He has a quad core desktop CPU
>He has a dual core laptop CPU
>It is currently current year

Just bought a little zotac gt710 2gb to put in my gfs PC. I bought it so she can play diablo 3 with me. It says it can do 4k resolution, but man, d3 sure looks like shit. I am not expecting 4k, but I was sure expecting better than how it looks. Kinda disappointed tbhfam

>>59093209
SEVEN
TEN
STRIKES
AGAIN

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>>59093240
Huh? This is her CPU now

>>59093253
She forgot thermal paste
You should leave her

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What build do you recommend for NO GAMING but 4k video editing?

>>59093304
>Please recommend me a car that can go really fast and has good handling that isn't for racing

>>59093304
anyone have a link to all the ryzen cpus and compatable motherboards? I'm building a new pc once these come out

>>59093290
She can sure solder though.

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>>59093313
Stop that

>>59093313
Elaborate

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>>59093290
Actually she applied it with a paint brush.

>>59093363
>>59093351
High performance is an absolute. You can't really build a monster computer and not have it be able to play games really well. Sure there's optimization for the task, but that doesn't mean it can't do other shit.

I need a really low end PC for a second build.

Needs:
One PCIe x16 slot.
6 or more SATA3 Slots.

Thats it, it will be for testing parts.

>>59090055
Can probably get something cheaper

>>59091532
Fine

>>59092241
The Ryzen CPU you'd want won't be out for a few months. You can get a G4560 and have a good upgrade path

Correct on memory, TV is fine

>>59092411
>>>/v/
>>>/g/sqt/

>>59092673
1060 6GB

>>59092948
550

>>59093172
2017 is the year of the hyperthreaded Pentium

>>59093304
Ryzen

>>59093313
He wants a work truck with towing capacity

>>59093433
Probably need a Z mobo for all those sata ports unless you got some kind of PCIe adapter

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Anyone know what the fuck is using my gpu while idle?Its using full memory and the card is supposed to run at like 27c while idle

>>59093800
are you running two different monitors? If so are they the same resolution?

>>59093821
nope I dont have an OC software installed
Downloaded process explorer gpu tab shows nothing
its not chromes hardware acceleration
Malwarebytes shows nothing

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My overclocked 6600k will last like 6 years at least, right?
Right?
Guys?

gaymen build (not overclocking)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCjxkT

>>59094018
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCjxkT
Add an SSD, and upgrade to 7500. Get 2400MHz RAM, and you're solid.

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>>59094299
no

>>59094018
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rCjxkT
Add an SSD, and upgrade to 7500. Get 2400MHz RAM, and you're solid.

can some anon help me out, i have an amd fx 9590 with a h100 cooler, its sitting at 45-50 thermal margin right now according to amd overdrive but when i play fallout it goes to like 5 to -5. where did i fuck up?

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>>59094360
no

>>59094299
>>59094334
>>59094360
>>59094406
is 4chan dying?

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nice video game console assembly

>>59093869
dont see why it wouldn't if you did it right. i read somewhere that motherboards tend to die though, not quite sure if thats bs or not.

thanks

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PCCaseGear recently unstocked the Phanteks Enthoo Luxe White which was my selected case for my custom water cooled build.

Can anyone suggest a mid to high end case for a rigid tubing build? Probably won't do SLI, 2xSSDs and 1-3 HDDs.

Also having trouble figuring out if 480 radiators will fit in the top of certain cases? I'm cooling my CPU and 1 GPU, JayZTwoCents suggested 240 rads per part cooled. Would it be better to just get 2 x 240 radiators, or 1 x 360 rad and a 120 rad mounted on the front or rear or something?

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Fuckied with laptops and wasted money on dGPUs to have an all around one till now. It's too expensive to keep up this way tho, so I put together this casual mini-ITX that will serve it's purpose. Looks alright I hope?

>>59089754
From what I've heard, all the RAM is getting bought up by phone makers, and production hasn't ramped up enough to supply it.

And now it's getting bumped up again to price gouge all the people doing new ryzen builds. In fact, there's been about a 10% markup across the board for every part category. It'll probably stay that way for the next 1-2 months, maybe 3-6 months as they try to gouge on the R5 release as well.

If you wanted to build a budget computer, now's definitely not the time to do it. Pretty much a $200-$400 gouge on a system build going on for the next half a year.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Mkm9XH

Any adjustments I should make?

If my main concern is running games like ARMA 3 and BF1 well at their highest settings, should I go for a better CPU (like an i7 7700k) and a worse GPU?

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Which monitor?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/T9p6Ps

>>59095232
(highest settings on 1080p, I should mention)

>>59095232
why buy K if your motherboard cant overclock?

>>59095396
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/DsrKxY

>>59095543
Didn't realize the motherboard couldn't overclock. Is there not much of a difference between the 7600 and the 7600k to be worth the price without an overclock?

>>59095853
If you're not going to overclock, the 7500 offers best price/performance.

>>59095961
I'll keep that in mind. Thanks.

>RX 480 is all you need for 1080p gaming
>1070 is overkill for 1080p, you'll only need it for higher resolution
>can't get more than 50 fps in Ghost Recon Wildlands at 1080p on ultra with a 1070 overclocked to over 2GHz

>>59097289
means the game's optimised badly

>>59097289
>Ghost Recon Wildlands
found the problem

I primarily shitpost, play video games, listen to music, and do business shit; usually at the same time. Would I benefit any from moar core? I'm currently running an OC'd i3 6100

>>59097369
Moot point.
>>59097396
What do you mean "problem"?

>>59093674
>1060 6GB
Why?

So now that the ryzen benchmarks are out should I get it I was going to get a 1070 and that other shit

What's a good quiet case fan for a NZXT S340? Looking to replace the stock fans.

>>59097842
They aren't though.
Unless you're talking about AMD sponsored cinebench runs. NDA on other benchmarks lifts once the first batch of preorders have shipped out.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d9jsPs

Buy now or wait for Ryzen 1600x? Note that memory will be roughly $300/GB when the 1600x is released.

>>59097877
Oh alright I don't know what is the 1800x worth it over the 1700x also I've been hearing about zen for a year I come and go from g I don't really know much about benchmarks except people claiming they are faked alot

>buying used
What's the best value GTX 900 series card?
It will be with a i7 2600k and 16gb

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>>59093366
showing sings of retardation

>>59098243
I sing of retardation.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tnHCqk

I went a little over budget. Is there anything that you see that is really overkill? I dont mind spending the money i just dont want to waste it. Will be used for gaming on a large screen

>>59098530
You can get Windows 10 keys cheaper or, of course, you know...

>>59098530
Drop to 8 GB of RAM, get rid of the shitty Logitech keyboard. Get a z270 if you plan on overclocking.

Is the Intel 600p any good?

>>59098658
I dont think ill have the need to overclock but thanks for the advice on the ram

>>59098775
If you don't plan on overclocking then you can drop to a 7500

>>59090224
DDR4 are so low in power that the vrm will never ever get toasted.

>>59098819
Thanks for the advice

Ive been taking criticism for my motherboard but nobody is offering a solution. Is this a bad choice? What should I replace it with, if anything? I know n00bs get chided for there ignorance but Id really like to make a sound decision with this much cash at stake. And Its really interesting to me Id love any good links I can learn from

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cnKvvV

>>59099563
>there ignorance
Boy i set myself up on that one

>>59099563
I have a Z170M mortar and there's nothing wrong with it.
You will probably have the issue of it not working with your CPU though as it won't have the latest bios that supports it.

>>59099635
Do you have an alternative suggestion?

Do I sell my i5 and give my cummies to ayymd's ryzen?
If dubs instead of selling my intel mobo I will puti it up my urethra on stream.

>>59099704
How old is your i5 and what do you use it for?

>>59099679
go for something B250M and it's guaranteed to run
Also see if you can fit dual channel RAM since it does have some extra performance

>>59099744
How much is the dual channel performance boost? I have one 8GB stick because I wanted to keep my expansion possibilities open

>>59099808
Just get dual channel 8 GB RAM. It gives you a huge boost to your processing power.

>>59099826
>I have
>I have
>I have
Read m8, unless you're advising I split my ram stick in twain

>>59099744
So 2x4 ram? Isnt 16 gb overkill? Thanks for the advice

>>59099857
Not that anon but I run 2x4 GB RAM and it works just fine.

>>59099732
Oops I thought I said it, i5 6500 and the most intensive task I do is gaming (or gamedev)

>>59099906
No, there's no reason to update yet. Not unless Ryzen R5 is something magic. Especially if you have a Z170 motherboard, look into BLCK overclock

>>59099881
Ok thank you. If I remove the OS Ill be right at my budget of $1,000 now
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqJcVY
I read a few free ebooks and the links in this general but Im still like a baby

>>59099857
>Isnt 16 gb overkill?
Eh... a few years ago that would have been the case, but it isn't like RAM usage is going down. 8 GB is probably going to be sufficient for the near future, but I wouldn't say that 16 GB is overkill.

>>59100031
If you're running that i5 at stock speed you don't need an aftermarket cooler.

>>59100031
You don't need 3TB on your HDD. Change your PSU from SeaSonic to EVGA, SeaSonic makes shit units. Would suggest you get a mechanical keyboard as well.

>>59100117
>SeaSonic makes shit units

Seasonic is literally the best OEM for PSUs, with Superflower as their only real competitor for the title.

>>59100067
It's just $20, and still healthier for cpu to stay a bit cooler, looks cooler plus stock cooler is garbage.

>>59100150
If you take that $20 and get DDR4 2400 memory instead you'll get better performance. Or you could get a nicer case that's easier to work inside.

>>59100067
Thank you. That is exactly the kind of advice I am here for. Will drop it
>>59100117
I store tons of video. 3 TB is probably overkill but its so cheap I dont mind the cushion. I hope to keep this rig for several years without alteration. Mechanical keyboard and better monitor than the one I have now are things Im interested in but maybe not in the budget just yet. Thank you for the PSU advice tho I will update accordingly. You guys have been extremely helpful a huge thanks from /fit/

>>59100187
Im not worried about $20 here and there. Should I upgrade my memory? I thought ram was ram from articles ive been reading

>>59100244
You definitely want to try to get DDR4 2400 RAM instead of 2133. Personally I can't recommend no-name case brands. And finally, seriously consider waiting two weeks to see how AMD's Ryzen CPUs perform. You could get better performance for your money very soon.

>>59100288
Here's some benchmarks. Keep in mind your motherboard doesn't support memory above 2400MHz afaik.

http://techbuyersguru.com/gaming-ddr4-memory-2133-vs-26663200mhz-8gb-vs-16gb?page=1

This is another reason to wait for Ryzen which will support faster RAM at the same price motherboard

>>59100297
Isnt next weeks ryzens the equivelent of i7 tho? Seems overkill to spend an extra $100

>>59100448
Not the i7 you're probably thinking of. More like a prosumer i7 by core / thread count. It's fine for gaming, but not great because the clock speeds are low unless you want to play the silicon lottery and OC. Anything more than eight threads is a waste for gaming

>>59100297
>>59100332
Thank you ill take a long look at this. The help is appreciated

Amd Fx8320
Evga 770gtx
8gb kingston 1600mhz ddr3 ram
WD blue 1tb hdd
Samsung 840 128gb ssd
Cx600
Cheapo rosewill case
24" dell 1080p monitor

I gave up modern pc gaming long time ago. College has kept me from any budget for it last few years and limited to my laptop that I play old shit on. Friend of a friend will sell me the above for $300 says it's in great shape and upgrading for the new ryzen stuff.

I just kind of want to play some more modern games like new civilization, far cry 3 and 4, fallout 3 and 4, skyrim. Still modern games versus what I can run on my 8 year old thinkpad.

>>59084379
This would be my first build and I want other people's opinions on it. I don't want to spend anymore than $1500 on it.

The main purpose of this build is to play games at 1080p or maybe even 1440p when I get a new monitor without any frame rate drops.


Intel Core i5-7600K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

MSI B250M GAMING PRO Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition Video Card

EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply

Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

TP-Link TL-WDN4800 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (I need a wifi card because I cannot have a cable running 60 feet across the floor to the router)

Zowie EC1-A Wired Optical Mouse

AUKEY Mechanical Keyboard with Blue Switches, 104-key RGB Backlit, Customizable with 9 Presets for PC & Mac Gamers

NZXT S340VR Elite

Total: $1393.24

I know buying any components with "gaming" in the title is a no-no but what I listed have pretty good reviews and don't seem to be terribly expensive. I want to know what /pcbg/ thinks.

Good decently cheap mobo, ram and cpu?

>>59100763
Get a z270 board so you can overclock.

>>59100763
Either upgrade your mono or downgrade your cou and drop the cooler

>>59095793

does freesync even work with nvidia cards

My based Lisa Su build :

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gX8Df8

I know I went for the trident rgb... I just want a full ryzen themed build with orange/red gradient colors.
I'm waiting for vega for my CF gpu

Btw does the x1700x come with a cooler or?

>>59100890
No freesync is for amd / ati cards, Gsync is for nividia.

>>59100946
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/T9p6Ps

so why did that retard suggest a freesync monitor

>>59100827
>>59100864

Would this be adequate?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130993&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0

>>59101025
>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130993&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0
Yes that would be much better.

>>59100960

just get a 1440@144Hz you retard

that way when you upgrade your gpu in the near future, you won't need to buy a new monitor

Is anyone here buying Ryzen as soon as it comes out or preordering it? I have a special request for you, it will be worth your time and only take a few minutes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jRrN9W

This is my max budget for my new build since my last one is already 6 years old.

Any idea where can I improve as I'm already aware this build is what I initially had in mind. Still cant decide on the mobo and ram though.

>>59100644
Give me your friends email of you don't get it.

>>59098243
>sings of retardation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U-HHrqjrMc

>>59101213
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/W2hbGf

Does anyone know a website or good place to get smaller HDDs for cheap? I know that a new 1 TB HDD is round $50 but I don't need a lot of space (250 GB max).

>>59101314
Where do you live, roughly? A /g/ent might be able to hook you up or know a local shop

>>59101363

Pensacola, FL

>>59101446
Well theres no freegeek near you and I live about as far away from Florida as you can get in NA. Good luck

>>59093141
Sell your 6600k and buy a 6700k

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>>59084379
This is a simple question in sure you guys get dozens of times a day.

I want to own a gaming computer. But I don't know much about computers.

Money isn't a problem, as I have very little responsibilities beyond rent and food. But I don't want to spend more than 4k-5k on it.

I intend on playing good looking games, such a star citizen, on great graphics and lots of add-ons/mods, so it needs to be beefy. Will this have any negative effects on less resource intensive games, such as the source engine?

My questions:

>should I build one or should I buy one?
I'm good with my hands and I hear it's as simple as putting any other machine together.

>what OS is best for gaming?
I know absolutely nothing about programming, so I may be forced to use Windows.

>what's a good place to buy a gaming computer/parts?
I live in the US and am okay with ordering online.

I don't much care for aesthetics, but I don't want it to look unpleasant.

Thank you for taking the time to read. I can repay your time and help with friendship and/or comradory through gaming adventures.

>>59101956
>should I build one or should I buy one?
Always build.
>what OS is best for gaming?
Windows 10 either pirate or buy.
>>what's a good place to buy a gaming computer/parts?
Newegg, Amazon, etc.
Use pcpartpicker.com

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>>59102105
Thanks my dude.

I feel like an idiot for asking so many questions when other resources exist. Should've looked online. But I figured /g/ would be helpful.

When building an entirely new computer, do I need a wireless adaptor to go with it?

>>59102105
>>59102144
>>59101956
pcpartpicker is nice and all, but I don't know if any parts are incomparable. I heard that was a thing I needed to worry about. Which is why I'm asking the geniuses here for help.

>>59102145
Depends on whether the motherboard already has one or not.

>>59102196
Getting the MSI B250 PC MATE if that helps.

>>59102248
Well, does it?

>>59102321
I don't know. What would it be listed as under in the specs section?

>>59102248
>MSI B250 PC MATE
I don't see it listed on msi website so just buy a wifi card.

>>59102185
pc part picker will tell you if the parts aren't compatible.

>>59102484
Is there any ATX sized B250 mobo that does have built-in wifi?

>>59102499
They have everything covered, eh? Thanks again.

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Whats a good 1080p144 monitor with freesync

>>59102564
do you know how to use pcpartpicker?

I want to into GPU mining like OP's pic

how do I do it without PGnE excavating my asshole at $.30/kWh

>>59102737
you need to find out which hardware will be good for you, GPU mining might not be a good idea.

look for miners

So from what I hear, ATX form factor mobos don't come with built-in wifi. Should I just go down a size or so or should I just cough up the 20 or so burgerbucks for a wifi card?

>>59102736
>trusting those reviews

>>59102863
I would just buy a wifi card if you need it.

imagine i know very little about building my own pc (because it's true), but i want to prepare myself to do so.

how much of a hole in my wallet should i expect to burn if i want to run 3x 1440p monitors? at worst, i'm envisioning running a shitty korean mmo on one, watching videos on another, and having irc open on the last one.

>>59103011
2-3 thousand

>>59102923
>if you need it.
Why wouldn't I need one?

I RMA'd my motherboard since it wouldn't detect my CPU.
The new one still doesn't detect it.

I really don't know what to do anymore. Could it be that my old power supply isn't compatible with the CPU?

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is there an equivalent to programming socks, except for assembling PCs?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Dnj6Ps - Building my first new PC here soon. Put together this. Notes below.

>CPU, GPU
Going with the i7-7700k because I want high end CPU performance, hyperthreading, and no stock cooler. Pairing it up with the RX 480 for top tier performance. I'm looking to get 120 FPS consistently at highest settings on any game I play, but I will probably have to settle for 60 since I'm not initially going dual GPUs.

>Motherboard
I want to do the Asus ROG Maximus VIII Hero Alpha to pair with the Asus ROG RX 480, however I will have to just buy it at a later point and sell the z170-a.

>RAM
I want to go a little cheaper, but I'd like 16GB total.

>Storage
Will buy an external 1TB later for storage of things I never actively need. So the SSD + 1TB WD will be good. As is I only really use 300 GB of my current 1TB HDD.

>Power Supply
Don't know who makes good power supplies.

>OS
Will be buying a pro key for much cheaper.

>Optical Drive, Sound Card, Wireless Adapter
Just an in-case kind of thing. The sound is because I'd like one. The wireless adapter is in-case I ever get into a situation where I can't use my Ethernet cable.

>Monitor
I definitely want to go cheaper on the monitor. I need 1920x1080 60-120HZ. If possible with Asus.

I should mention, a game I am looking to play at highest settings is Forza Horizon 3 and that game is fairly demanding.

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>>59103344
I would guess CPU, the little 4pin socket for them hasn't changed in a long time.

>>59103620
>i7-7700k because I want high end CPU performance
Ryzen is better and cheaper

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>>59103620
>RX 480
>consistent 120 fps
maybe at 720p

>>59103725
I never trusted AMD with their CPUs given that Intel exists and is currently the only company that can make a good CPU.

I'll wait and see what the benchmarks are for Ryzen in comparison to Intel.

>>59103744
RX 480 is the current top end GPU in AMD isn't it? It compares to Nvidia's top end anyway.

>>59089410
Out of the corner of my eye, this pic looked like running bear.

>>59103752
480 is a 60fps card for 1080p. its a good budget/performance card.
if you want consistent 120 fps at 1080p youre gonna need a gtx1080.

then again maybe you only plan on playing on medium.
then again maybe you dont plan on playing graphically intensive AAA games. in which case 480 will be fine

>>59103752
>480
>compares to Nvidia's top end
In which universe?

>>59103831
>480 is a 60fps card for 1080p. its a good budget/performance card.
>if you want consistent 120 fps at 1080p youre gonna need a gtx1080.
Why do people assume everyone else is playing AAA games (Awfully Atrocious Abominations)?

>>59103831
Well the thing is, I don't want to run Nvidia for my GPU. So in any event, this means I'll have to run dual 480 for 120 FPS then.

>>59103836
Okay then what is AMD's top end card?

>>59103918
They haven't released a "top end" card since mid 2015. There should be something competitive coming later this year.

>>59103955
Well fuck me then. In any case, I'm gonna have to go with dual 480's then, since the Asus GTX 1080 (as much as I wouldn't want to go with Nvidia stuff) is $600 and that is out of my price range for a GPU.

>>59103918
Fury X. Still doesn't compare to Nvidia's top end, though.

>>59103893
keep reading faggot

>>59103339
Wired is generally better.

>>59103620
>>59103831
>>59103955
>>59103987
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NcvB7h

So would a 1060 be able to do 120FPS/1920x1080 on ultra settings?

>>59104045
No.

>>59104045
You'll want a 1070 for that.

>>59104004
I don't have an ethernet where I live.

>>59103661
Aren't DOA CPUs really rare?

>>59103968
Just get a 1070. Dual 480s are a terrible idea and suffer negative scaling in lots of games.

>>59104045
it will for CSGO and DOTA.

You still havent mentioned what kind of games youre gonna be playing

so i dont need to get a sound card right? like i can get sound as long as my monitor has speakers?

>>59104082
Really rare doesn't mean they don't exist.

>>59104045
>Z170 for a Kaby Lake CPU in a new build
You need a Skylake CPU in order to update its BIOS to be Kaby compatible. Go Z270.
>WD Black
Go Red instead.
>1060
Go 1070 instead.
>A fucking optical drive
If you really need it, I guess.
>Sound card
You don't need this.
>Wifi shit
Drop it and use a cable.
>Extra fans
No, that case comes with enough fans. You don't need to fill every slot.

>>59104135
Ya sound cards aren't needed.

>>59104136
like this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TdvB7h

looking for 1080p 60 fps max and maybe 1440p medium high

>>59104197
>Skylake in Kaby board
>Not Ryzen
It's like you want to shoot yourself in the foot.

look good?

im probably going to add a sound card and a network card from my old computer (~2010-2011). Though that computer was prebuilt, so will i be able to open it and take parts from it?

>>59104226
forgot link

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kxj6Ps

>>59104223
>buying launch
irony

looking for 1080p 60 fps max and maybe 1440p medium high
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YDHTVY forgot link

>>59104263
>FX8320
Fuck off. Read the OP, read again, then come back.

>>59104243
Buying Intel right now is retarded, especially given how well Ryzen performed in benchmarks at the launch event. Some numbers aren't going to change just because reviewers get their hands on them.
But Intel will be forced to respond in some way, whether through price drops or a new lineup sooner than otherwise scheduled. If they drop their prices enough, maybe their current lineup will be worthwhile again.

>>59104321
>moving the goalposts
nice

>>59104321
>given how well Ryzen performed in [CINEBENCH] at the [AMD MARKETING] launch event
I mean yeah it's probably pretty good, but come on m8 don't be so easily sold on something.

what processor should i get then?

>>59104335
Stating the facts.

>>59104339
Cinebench and the few other things they had running right next to similar Intel systems while letting reviewers get hands on to verify they weren't tampering with shit, yeah.
It's not about being easily sold on something. I'm not saying you should buy Ryzen RIGHT NOW, I'm saying that buying Intel is retarded until 1) Intel responds to AMD by improving their current pricing or releasing new SKUs, or 2) reviewers get samples to play with properly and prove the launch event either right or wrong in the coming weeks/days.

what processor should i get then? amd ryzen? my budget is 600 usd.

>>59104223
That is a kaby, you baby.

>>59104426
6600k is Skylake.

>>59104339
People were scared Ryzen would be another Bulldozer, and Sandy Vag shat on Bulldozer in Cinebench

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>>59094553
bump, plssssssssss halp

>>59104417
You can't afford ryzen. Get i5 7500 and pirate windows, or wait 3-4 months for ryzen 5.

>>59104417
Budget for your CPU or the whole computer? If the whole computer:
1. If you can wait, get R3 1200 when it comes out in the Summer. Looking at July or August
2. If you can't, get a Pentium G4560 now

>>59104417
Wait for actual reviews to come out

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CpvB7h

thoughts?
currently have a 4790k, z97 extreme6 + 16gb 4x4 g.skill cl9 1866mhz + 250gb 840 evo. looking to replace cpu/mobo/ram/storage.

main reason for wanting nvme m.2 is i won't have to run sata data+power to the back of my case anymore, saves on space etc.

>>59104515
p.s
money isn't a problem. yes i want the 8c/16t, and yes i know i'm being price gouged on the ram but it's a non-issue.

>>59104515
I don't like all in one coolers. If you're willing to spend money and are a computer enthusiast, give a custom loop a shot. You could even try cooling your GPU for a neat little speed boost.

http://www.frys.com/product/8976543?site=96premail022417

Is this 480GB SSD good at $110? I'm not really in a rush to buy parts yet really, I'm gonna wait for R5's or R3's.

Budget 1070 build.
Debate me.
(Ryzen shills need not reply)
https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/GRQbGf

>>59104549
>>59104549
i've already had the aio for a while now, i've been considering going to a tower style metal cooler but kinda like the "aesthetic" the aio brings if that makes any sense. maybe it's a giant meme but whatever. i'd get an nh-d15 but the noctua fans throw me off, was thinking phanteks or dark rock pro etc..

custom loop would be cool but it's too much effort for me. maybe in the future, but for right now i'll pass lol :<

>>59104590
>noctua fans throw me off
literally the best fans
you can spray paint them if you dont like brown

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ebay

>>59104613
Spray paint ruins the balance of them. Better to dye them.

>>59104573
>debate me (unless you disagree with me)
Don't you have a Democratic Party Chairpersonship to be running for?

>>59104683
Relax man.

>>59104678
Only ruins the balance if you're shit at painting.
Dying them is still the better and safer option, but you can't do lighter colours with it.

>>59104613
bequiet are pretty nice too actually
fan q/a is incredible

either way i don't like noctua's fans and having to paint/dye premium fans to make them a not shit color is ridiculous

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>>59104573
you cant overclock so its shit.

also
>those prices
>budget
>mfw

Anyone tried massive heatsinks such as d-14 etc. ?
The hugeness scares the shit out of me. How does a mobo handle it without bending/breaking?

>>59104226
>>59104237

anyone?

>>59104871
Sturdy backplate

>>59104573
>https://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/GRQbGf
1727 kiwis for that garbage?

tf..

>>59104812
No need to overclock.

>>59105378
Relax man.

Man /g/ sure is grumpy today.

>>59105460
because you said "Ryzen shills need not reply". you guaranteed yourself shitposting replies.

>>59106029
>>59106029
>>59106029

>>59104558
Check userbenchmark ssd

>>59104263
AM3+ is dead, do not buy unless used at bargain basement prices