/pcbg/ -- PC Building General

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REMINDER: Ryzen to be announced at GDC at the end of this month so you should wait before you buy until after 3rd party benchmarks are available.

>>59036193
>>59036193
>>59036193
Real thread

>>59036212
your thread was made after this so no, this is the real one.

also your greentexts are written poorly.

>>59036232
when should the CPU market "stabilize?"
Will it take 1 month after Ryzen is released, or 6 months?

Hello /pcbg/, I've saved $1500 for my entire rig and I need some help. Where should the rest of my money go towards? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jWXpWX

>>59036373
Jesus Christ, WTF

>>59036373
start over and dont be retarded this time

>>59036408
>>59036398
Hear me out. I don't ever want to have to replace my mobo and ram, are they not good enough or something?

>>59036373
Not sure if trolling, but if you want to see some good example builds, check this thread >>59036193

Repost your build there and I'll help you

>>59036373
That build can't use the monitor to its full potential.

>>59036432
Wasn't the 1050 ti really close to the 1060?

>>59036460
You need at least a 1070 for 1440p 144hz.

>>59036469
Should I downgrade to the Celeron and cheap out on my PSU? I don't think I'll be able to fit it in my budget...

Pirate windows that will save you a bit.

>>59036490
I guess you're serious, so I'll run the risk of biting the bait. Get an i3/i5 and a 1060/RX 480.
Do you really think you need an 850W PSU for a 234W system? This is a serious question.
Get a Benq GL2450. Get rid of the horrendously overpriced RAM.

>>59036431
fuck off

>>59036460
no

>>59036490
you should stop being retarded and make a balanced build

>>59036532
>>59036542
Is this better? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HXvCqk I can't go with AMD, I hear bad stuff about them. Sorry.

>>59036373
pretty sure that's a bait but whatever.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6dmKxY
just a quick one. you can save some money by getting cheaper mobo, case and different gtx 1070 model.
for 1440p 144hz an overclocked i5 and a 1070 is the MINIMUM

>>59036586
>still with that fucking RAM
fuck off and never come back you massive tard

everyone stop replying to this guy

>>59036589
Did you not read my post? I can't spend more than $1500.

>>59036586
Oh son I am dissapoint

>>59036589
also pirate win10 or get a key from ebay
fucking spending over 100$ for that piece of garbage. unless you're retarded then go ahead and get 30% less performance by downgrading to 1060.

>>59036627
>>59036629
stop feeding the troll

>>59036622
Wow someone woke up angry today. I just wanted some help but I guess I'll just ask r/buildapc instead.

>>59036171
i've seen that photo so many times and i'm only just now noticing the flex on that motherboard

Thoughts on this monitor? Acer GN246HL Bbid 24-Inch
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-GN246HL-Bbid-24-Inch-Display/dp/B00KO4518I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464798851&sr=8-1&keywords=acer+144hz

>>59036661
Should have replied to the other thread. That neet has been shitting up the general for the past week or two

>>59036212
>>59036431
>>59036701
wow samefag much? fuck off to your shitty thread then.

>>59036661
please do

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>>59036701
>helping obvious troll
>thinks i've only been here a couple weeks
>faggot trying to pull people to the thread he made after this like a pathetic attention whore
stop fucking kek lad

I hate that I've just done this for an obvious troll, but might aswell just post it anyway...

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bNcPhq

msi gaming x 8gb rx 480 or asus strix 8gb rx 480

exact same price and warranty and could care less how they look.

which is better?

>>59036810
another troll

>tfw to smart to fall for the ATX meme
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7BjKxY
Feedback is appreciated.

>>59036810
Buy the Elite version of that case. Only $30 more.

>>59036817
the one with better cooling

>>59036832
looks good, but you can get a nh-14d for $10 more which is quite a bit better

>>59036810
stop picking ram with heatsinks that stick up like tumours they serve no purpose

>>59036881
I can feel your autism pouring through the screen.

>>59036832
Almost identical to my build, except for the steampunk cooler. Ditch it for something attractive.

>>59036918
>MUH A E S T H E T I C S
it's just your own autism that's splashing on your screen

>>59036943
>if you disagree with me, you're autistic

What an autist.

>>59036943
I'm neither of the people you were replying too and I'm not sure which one you think I am.

>>59036690
bump

This is my build /g/entlemen.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vkk7nn
It's supposed to be a modest home pc for browsing, Openoffice, emulating, and torrenting movies. I plan on installing ubuntu so I don't have to pay for an os.
My concerns are:
-I'll be using my tv as a monitor, connecting via hdmi. Will the integrated graphics on my chip struggle with that?
-Should I get a smaller ssd but add an hdd to get more storage overall for the same cost? I could keep the os and applications on the ssd and use the hdd for storing all my movies and shit
-Never used linux before.

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I can't figure this one out, please help.

I have a GA-Z87X-UD3H with the PCIe 3.0 x16 slot populated with a GPU (obviously) and an SSD as main boot drive, which is getting pretty full. Due to reasons I can't add another drive in my case and while replacing the SSD with a bigger one is an option, I'm much more interested in getting a PCIe SSD instead.

It's quite embarrassing, but I just don't understand what the spec sheets are trying to tell me. The PCIe 3.0 slots share their lanes, so the SSD has to go in a PCIe 2.0 slot if I don't want to sacrifice fps.

So, when installing the SSD in the "PCI Express x16 slot, running at x4", what's the maximum bandwidth I can get out of it? Is it even worth compromising the airflow to the GPU?

>>59037221
Don't most emulators only use two cores? You could get a G4560 and an RX 460 for your emulation needs.

Rate/advice please on my poorfag budget build. I can't stand to gayme on my 3 year old hp Wal-Mart laptop anymore and haven't had the spare change to build a half decent rig since I'm a neet with my only budget being autism bucks/disability.
I have a 128gb 840 evo ssd in my laptop im going to use as the OS drive. I also will wait for ryzen to see if at that time I can do better with my cpu

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vQdwHN

>>59036970
>>59036976
>paying more for useless visuals
true autism

>>59037221
>iGPU enough
yes
>smaller ssd but add an hdd to get more storage overall for the same cost
no, it's easier to add HDD storage later when you need it

>>59037252
I also recommend G4560, and 2 cores is not an issue because it has 4 threads.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xsnFpb

>>59037290
There's absolutely no point in buying the old AMD stuff now.

>>59037290
For the record I only want to be able to watch movies and play games like Eve, SW:TOR then a lot of older steam games like natural selection 2, cs:s, sven coop, and other misc titles. Nothing super demanding but my hp laptop struggles with everything

>>59037306
That mobo doesn't even support RAM above DDR4 2400. What's the point? I know it'll work.

>>59037252
>Don't most emulators only use two cores?
I have no idea but you might be totally right. I only picked that CPU because it was chosen for the build guide that I kinda based this off of. I'm already comfortable with the price so, if switching from the 4 core CPU would compromise performance in any way, I'd rather not. If it'd be cheaper, but more or less equal performance wise, I'm all for it.

>>59037361
What emulators are you using?

>>59037361
What emulators are you going to be running? PCSX2 and Dolphin still benefit from really high clocks and they only use 2 cores. That i5 at 2.7 GHz may be too slow. The G4560 would be a better choice as anon mentioned if emulation and office tasks are most important to you.

>>59037351
>dual channel vs single channel
>same price
>higher resell value
>better performance if he ever gets a mobo that can use it

>>59037361
the G4560 is 2 core 4 threads, it's basically an i3 for half the price and since none of the programs you are going to use it for even can use more than 4 threads, the higher single-core performance of the G4560 is a far better choice.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/JyHLqk

How's it looking?

Was given the i7 for my birthday by an uncle who owns a computer store earlier this month.

So for another PC I won't be waiting for Ryzen, I'll wait for Vega.

>>59037361
Alternatively you could go with the unlocked i3 7350k and a Z motherboard for a few more dollars than your i5 build and have the ability to overclock for even more single threaded performance if needed. This would be the best way to ensure your emulators don't hit slowdowns if that's important to you.

A dual core G3258 (unlocked 2c/2t pentium from ~2 generations back) could ultimately work well here too.

>>59037481
nice, only thing i'd change is remove HDD and use that money on a bigger SSD. it's easier to add more storage later than replacing your OS drive.

>>59037504
>unlocked i3
absolutely not worth it.

>>59037422
Sound advice. Thank you.

>>59037388
>>59037384
I'm mostly interested in classic stuff like Snes all the way up to ps1. I suppose I might give dolphin a try some time but it's not a deal breaker.

>>59037519
>absolutely not worth it.
Yes it is if you know what you need it for. The i3-7350k is the best CPU for PCSX2 ever. Hitting 5 or 5.1 GHz at Kaby Lake IPC puts it well ahead of any previous contenders as it's $60 cheaper than the 6600k and can reliably hit 3-500 MHz faster top clocks.

>>59037529
You should be fine with the G4560 then. The i5 you have selected above will not offer you any real benefits outside of productivity tasks or recent PC games.

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I don't know which monitor to get.

I have two Viewsonic 1080 LEDs already but I want to use one as a verticle display once I get this new one.

Getting at Zotac GTX 1080

>>59036832
what's wrong with atx form factor mobos?

>>59037250
Is 2GB/s correct?

I just sold my gtx760, now I have to choose between gtx1060 and rx480 and my ass hurts. rx480 is ~15% cheaper that 1060 in my local stores, is there any reason to buy nvidia? I got used to shadowplay though.

>>59037695
rx480 is better, it's also more future proof. amd cards always get better with time which helps as well and freesync ftw. at least compared to the 1060

>>59037627
if it was $40 cheaper i would agree, but not at the current price.

>>59037653
nothing, dont fall for the "lol xbox hueg ATX" meme

>>59037636
1440p@144hz 1-6ms

>>59037250
Read the specs for the drive instead.

>>59037695
>is there any reason to buy nvidia?
only if you're a good goy and a brand fanboi.

>>59037720
>Read the specs for the drive instead.
The specs of the drive are irrelevant, the slot on the MB is the limiting factor.

>>59037736
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express#PCI_Express_2.0

>PCIe 2.0 ... per-lane throughput ... 500 MB/s
so >>59037670 would be correct.

Since building my pc a year ago I've upgraded the gpu, and soon thinking about upgrading the CPU, is it necessary to upgrade my Motherboard as well? Or are they good for a long time

>>59037720
>if it was $40 cheaper i would agree, but not at the current price.
It's the absolute best at what it does. The price is fair considering the only budget option before this was a G3258 and that could really only hit 4.4-4.6 GHz, sometimes less, at Haswell IPC and was a true dual core. You get what you pay for with the 7350k if you know why you're buying it.

>>59037250
>>59037736
You only have 16 PCI-E lanes and your GPU is hogging all 16 of them right now. If you add in a PCI-E SSD it will force the GPU into running at x8 speed. Not a huge deal but just something to be aware of.

see
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2488-pci-e-3-x8-vs-x16-performance-impact-on-gpus

>>59037695
AMD has relive or whatever it's called, does the same thing as Shadowplay.

>>59037791
So, the cheapest SSD with 2000MB/s or faster reading speed is the way to go.

>>59037818
>If you add in a PCI-E SSD it will force the GPU into running at x8 speed
Even if it put it into the PCIe 2.0 slot?

>>59036373
here you go, although you might want to pick a better monitor, this one is a solid 144hz monitor

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PYwFpb

>>59037824
Yeah it's Relive. I have a 480 and I use Relive to record Overwatch play of the game snips to convert to gif. It works well.

>>59037870
yes, if your mobo can use PCI-e SSDs as boot drive.

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>>59037911
>converting to gif
>not webm

>>59037915
I don't think it can, at least not with the stock BIOS. I'd keep the sata SSD for the OS and instally my gaymes on the PCIe SSD. I have some pretty retarded load times in current games installed on an HDD.

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>>59037870
>Even if it put it into the PCIe 2.0 slot?
Yes, you still only have 16 lanes to work with. That's a function of the Z97 (and 87, and 77, and so on) chipset.

Can I ask why you can't add another SATA SSD? You just said because reasons lel.

>>59037964
that'll work

>>59038021
i also am curious about this

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>>59037870
>>59038021
I just want to reiterate that the difference between PCI-E 3.0 x16 and PCI-E 3.0 x8 barely fucking matters. See that link I posted above.

>>59037937
i upload to giffy for discord

Give me the quick rundown on B150 boards and why I shouldn't buy one.

Spoiler: I already bought one.

>>59038021
>>59038046
So, I might aswell put the fastest PCIe SSD I can find in the second PCIe 3.0 slot for full speed, alright, that helps a lot.

>Can I ask why you can't add another SATA SSD?
I mounted a 5.25" optical drive, 2 3.5" drives and the 2.5" SSD in 3 5.25" bays, using bay extensions and a hacksaw. The space where the drivecage would go is occupied. So, outside of taping the SSD somewhere, I can't fit another drive in.

1080p or 1440p @144hz?

>>59038078
make webm and upload to pomf.cat and link instead. gif is dead.

>>59038079
you shouldnt buy b150 if you have a unlocked cpu or cant update bios to run kaby lake CPU

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How does this build look?
Besides the CPU/Mobo/RAM, these parts are already part of my current build. I'm waiting for Ryzen, but unless Ryzen is godly, I want to go Intel (current build is AyyMD).

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2MJN9W

>>59038122
bigger if your PC can handle it

>>59038110
you should get a better case... almost all of the modern ones can mount 2.5" drives on flat surfaces (for example back of the mobo tray) to free up your drive bays.

>>59038110
>outside of taping the SSD somewhere, I can't fit another drive in

Honestly bro, if you have more SATA ports on the board available you should just buy some 3M double sided velcro stickers for like $1.99 and just let it rest on the floor or side of your case somewhere where it can get some airflow.

People were doing shit like this for years with SSDs without issue before cases really began to incorporate 2.5" slots all over the place. Probably not worth the hassle (and added cost) of dealing with PCI-E storage.

>>59038197
replace HDD with SSD and the PSU with a Gold rated semi-modular for almost the same price like seasonic or evga

>>59038122
imo 1080p

lower resolution means more frames, which you need at a higher refresh rate. go for 1440p if your build can handle it though.

>>59036171
I have created the greatest gaming RGB build of all time
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/BFyRM8

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How did I do, lads?

I spent just under $1200 total

>>59038267
no, LinusTT already did it

>>59037290
I put together a little shitty APU build for only $250 that does everything you mentioned. IF playing old games, maybe even some newish ones is what you want you don't need to spend anymore than $300

>>59038257
>>59038227

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01EN5JN5K

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00LBSZHAI

Either of these monitors decent for the respective resolution/price?

>>59038299
>Win10

DOA

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gHYqVY
So I want to have a NH-D15 on my build, but the RAM i want is higher than the maximum clearance. The other option is the NH-D14, which doesnt do as good of a job cooling, but has a higher ram clearance. What do i do?

>>59038301
Sauce it up

>>59038122
24" or smaller - 1080p
27" or larger - 1440p

>>59038299
>asking how you did after you already bought it
please leave

>>59038305
>maybe even newish ones
at shit resolution and lowest settings maybe

>>59038318
can

your

pc

handle

1440p

?

>>59038350
just go to their videos and search for RGB im not gonna waste my time spoonfeeding you something so easy to find

>>59038333
Just put the front fan 20mm higher, cooling won't suffer much and Define S should still be wide enough for this. Other two options are NH-D15S aka NH-D15 with no front fan or NH-U14S.
Also nice digits.

>>59038365
>can you PC handle 1440p
Yes but probably not as well as it could handle 1080. I'm confided I could get 100+Fps in most games at 1080

>at shit resolution and lowest settings maybe

Well of course, but you'd save like $300 for more important shit, if all you have is neet buxs to spend then you shouldn't be buying a gaming rig to begin with, but whatever

>>59038385
Raising it will only give me up to 37mm. The ram i want is 44mm

>>59038402
get the 1080p144hz then but dont fall for the gsync meme, those monitors have a $100 extra tax.

>>59038227
>you should get a better case
It's a good case and I'm gonna keep it.

>>59038231
>Probably not worth the hassle (and added cost) of dealing with PCI-E storage.
It is a lot faster though and I can just pop it in the native M.2 slot once I move on from the 1150 socket.

>>59038244
the PSU is in my current build. is it really worth upgrading? it gets the job done for now.

I'm a fan of SSD but I think that a CPU upgrade would be most beneficial. I want to spend around $300-$350 on upgrades.

>>59038385
>>59038333
>>59038423
NH-D15S should be able to handle the extra-high RAM

also this is the reason i've been telling idiots not to buy RAM with fuck-huge heatsinks.

>>59038445
nah, mark it as purchased in the list next time

>>59038445
i didnt say anything about the CPU, drop the HARD DRIVE and get an SSD instead.

>>59038427
G-Sync is cool but not worth the premium. However if you're using an AMD card you might as well get a freesync capable monitor because they usually cost the same.

>>59038467
I should have marked it on pcpartpicker, but my original post says.
>Besides the CPU/Mobo/RAM, these parts are already part of my current build

Thanks for the input though.

>>59038448
>not to buy RAM with fuck-huge heatsinks
Even Ripjaws V have a big heatspreader, the only >3000 RAM with a non-autism heatspreader is the Veangence LPX and prices for this have skyrocketed, especially where i live.

What's the point of having USB ports on the monitor?

>>59038578
botnet

What the best,coolest,most silent rx 480?Saphire?

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>>59038448
If i put an nf-f12 aftermarket fan on it, it should fit 44mm RAM right?

Are 5.25" bay fan controllers worth it?
I have 3 case fans, but the ability to turn it down to the lowest RPM while I'm just shitposting on the internet and listening to music or watching chinese cartoons seems like a nice, possibly inexpensive luxury and a better use of my empty 5.25" bay.

Otherwise, what's another use for my empty 5.25" bay?

>>59038662
Don't fall for the Nitro+ meme /g/ is spewing. They only like it because it doesn't look like a gaymen GPU, but it's actually not good at all.

>>59038662
Sapphire are the loudest. Either the XFX GTR or the MSI Gaming X 480 are considered the most quiet.

>>59038662
That will probably be the MSI Gaming X with it's Twin Frozr.

>>59038662
Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1080 Windforce OC

>>59038693
I'm the guy who has all his drives in the 5.25" bays. I also have a ton of case fans, but they're controlled by the MB, using a custom curve that has them running inaudibly slow at low temperatures.

So I have two questions for you guys, /pcbg/

1. Which 2x4GB RAM should I get? Any particular brand/model that is particularly good? Probably going to get 2400hz RAM by the way.

2. Is getting headphones with a mic worth it?

>>59038691
For you.

>>59038770
1. Get the cheapest kit of desired speed.
2. Absolutely.

>>59038770
>Is getting headphones with a mic worth it?
It's called a headset.

>>59038824
Sorry for the mistake.

>>59038810
Any particular headphone model you would recommend? Nothing too gaymur-y preferably.

>>59039003
There's too wide a range to recommend something. Sennheiser is always good.

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Whats the BEST SINGLE 8 pin GTX 1070 right now?

>>59039003
>>>/g/hpg

>>59039080
Asus Strix might be the best.
Palit Super Jetstream is the best bang for the buck.

>>59039059
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/rWNp99/sennheiser-headphones-pc350se

How does this one look? I have no idea on how much I should be spending on a headset so I don't know if this is too cheap of a price range to be looking at.

>>59039080
The new EVGA superclocked 2 with icx cooling. i'm loving mine.

>>59039161
You should really go to a store and test them out, headphones aren't something you can buy blind, it has to be comfortable on your head and you need to like the sound.

>>59039115
>>59039190

Which GTX 1070's were the ones blowing up/catching on fire?

>>59039231
Ok, thanks for the advice. Will do.

>>59039250
EVGA, but it should be fixed.

>>59039003
This >>59039082
If you want "fun" headphones try Philips Fidelio X2 or Beyerdynamic DT770.
If you want precision aka footsteps get Audio Technica ATH whatever series (not the M50X).
If you want something in between get the Beyerdynamic DT990.
People will tell you to get Sennheiser, while decent, i don't like them and they can snap, hence the Snapheiser nickname.

>>59039250
The older EVGA, The newer ones are nice, fuse protection, 9 thermal sensors and better cooling.

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Has anyone here built a Kaby Lake PC with Windows 7? Any success stories?

>>59039115
Why the Strix?

>>59038078
>discord
>overwatch
Hang yourself please.

>>59039348
Because the Zotac Amp! Extreme, Gigabyte xmeme gaymen, MSI gaming Z and EVGA FTW aren't 1x8 pin cards.

>>59039323
Plenty of people have. There's no issues as long as you don't expect to use the IGPU or play 4k Netflix.

>>59039421
The EVGA superclocked 2 is an 8pin card.

>>59038578
it's closer to reach

>>59038770
1. they're all more or less the same and all have lifetime warranty. there's not a big difference in price going from 2400mhz to 3000mhz.
2. depends. you can get better headphones and mic for the same price as a really good headset if you do your research.

>>59039471
So are other mid-range cards. Your point?

Should I wait to see if Ryzen is shit or not before buying a new CPU?

>>59039500
If you wanna wait for AMD to make a competitive CPU, you might as well wait for the second coming of Christ.

[spoiler]It's gonna be shit.[/spoiler]

My desktop is running G3258/GTX 650 Ti/8GB RAM and runs Overwatch on both medium and high at ~40 FPS on a 1680x1050 monitor. Would just swapping in a 1050 Ti get me up to a consistent 60 FPS? I really don't want to upgrade my CPU since it's a different socket/DDR4 now.

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Whatever happened to the falcon guide?

>>59039527
You could upgrade to a 4790k, but the 1050ti should do the trick.

>>59039571
is it worth buying a CPU of that gen at this point?

>>59039625
If you want to keep your mainboard and ram, absolutely, it's not like a 7700k is that much better.

I want to build a computer for video editing, 3D CAD and occasional gaming. Should my build focus more spending on the CPU or the GPU?

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>>59038179
I have neither so it looks like I'm all set.

I also don't give a care about Kaby Lake so I'm even more set.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QWdwHN
Rate

>>59039844
Why the i7/10

>>59039844
>i7-7
>Win 10

RIP

>>59039492
At least it has better cooling.

>>59039524
fuck off kike shill

>>59039500
yes, it's like 1-2 weeks away

>>59039652
If you want fast video rendering, get an i7 or one of the Ryzen equivalent that's coming out soon.

>>59039844
this retard again/10

you havent listened to a single piece of advice you got last time so i'm not even going to bother with you any more. enjoy wasting your money

>>59040057
>fuck off kike shill
No matter how much you hate intel and nvidia, AMD is done. It's unfair and I hate it as well, but it's just how it is, the jews won.

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>>59040057
You stupid nigger i got rid of my corsair fans, went with the gtx 1060 6gb, and got the NH-D15S instead of the Hyper 212 evo because of advice. You are a /b/tard level dumbass

>>59040103
>extra fans
>1060
>$160 mobo
>shit tier monitor
literally nothing changed from last time i gave you advice. seems like you're the one that belongs on /b/ you retard.

>>59040101
>benchmarks look positive
>jim keller lead the development
>IPC on par with Intel Extreme CPUs
>AYYYMAD IS DONE! THEY'RE FINISHED!!!!!!!!
t. kike shill

Hey bro, I know you're going to be home tomorrow. I'm expecting my parts to come in on Thursday while I'm at work. Can you sign for them? Thanks.

>>59040200
Excuse me

>>59039844
>i7
>Noctua meme cooler
>16 GiB of meme RAM
>shittybyte 1060
>Define S instead of define C
>Wi-Fi card
>Noctua meme fans
>buying windows 10
Stop reposting your shitty bait.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vsGdtJ

First time builder here. Can someone give me a quick rundown on if I'm making any rookie mistakes?

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Ok. Im done with /pcbg/.
>show my first time build
>muh 'tism put on meme fans
>muh 'tism this case is cheaper for bigger space
>muh tism get g2 psu
>muh tism get 16 memebytes
>i put on meme fans
>i add cheaper better case
>get better psu
>16 memebytes added
>ask /b/, sorry /g/, got confused over their 'tism
>muh tism why do you have meme this and meme that
>they dont even recommend non meme shit half the time
>when they do i fix it
>show it again
>oh no where did meme shit go put it back on
Endless cycle of autism

>>59040958
>You have 32GB of RAM in your part list, but Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM 64-bit only supports up to 16GB.
Learn to read, nigger.

>>59041007
>implying he can't just upgrade later

>>59040999
Trips of truth

Yep. You guys are awful. When someone needs genuine help and someone helps,
>SPOON FEEDING SPOON FEEDING REEEEEEEEE

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>>59040999
>>59041028
fuck off retarded samefag cunt

i adviced multiple times in an earlier thread and he didnt even reply or change anything except the RAM and HSF then he reposts the same shit today.

>>59041025
>buying something you can't use
TOPGOY

>>59040958
oh look the second full retard nigger is backm, i told you last time and you havent changed shit just like this other fucktard that's crying MUH AUTISM

>>59041047
>in an earlier thread
Ive been replying to these thresds for nearly a month, and the same thing keeps happening. Maybe if shit like you and >>59041007 actually helped people instead of being shitheads, I would have a better build

>>59041084
Maybe if people weren't retarded we would help them.
To read that info you literally just have to scroll down. There's even a fucking warning that some problem with the build may occur.
We can't help people to not be illiterate retards.

>>59041084
yet you dont remember these two retards
>>59040999
>>59040958
were in the one or two of the last 4 threads and havent listened to a single piece of advice and then reposts the same shit.

maybe if they actually replied to our advice instead of just ignoring it and then reposting they would actually get more advice.

also i've been in these threads far longer than you so dont try to pull that shit you fucking pathetic nigger

>>59041105
That other anon with win 7 isnt me

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>>59041028
>>59040999
>>59041111
quads trump trips

read and weep you fucking retards.

start by reading the fucking OP and then the links in the OP

>>59041105
so much this

>>59040958
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqmvvV

>>59041149
see >>59041142
fuck off until you have learned to read

>>59041071

What? This is my first post in these threads.

You the one cunt they have in every general?

>>59041111
>were in the one or two of the last 4 threads

Lay off the drugs. You're on an ANONYMOUS site. You have no idea who is posting.

>>59041142

>le quads beats triples xDDDD

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/b/

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/d9jsPs

Win 7 or Win 10?

>>59041203
Golden middle ground, Windows 8. :^)

>>59036203
Bought a samsung 960 evo and a noctua nh-d15 in preparation.


I might just go ahead and get the DDR4 now.

>>59041195
>identical build list as tard from older thread
>n-no i-i-it's n-not me!
ok buddy

and if you're gonna complain about someone mentioning GETs at least call out everyone that did you cherry-picking faggot

>>59041207
>objectively worse than both
kys

I looked hard but I still can't find a motherboard replacement for my I7 2600k.
I need DVI/HDMI and at least 4 internal hard drive slots.
Any help?

>>59041239

>>>>/b/

Looks like you missed the directions.

>>59038197
I'd say 12-16gb of Ram

>>59041260
You're going to use the integrated GPU?

>>59041270
>>>/9fag/

looks like you're trying so hard

>>59041239
>he doesn't use superiour Windows 8 with optimized mobile support
It's like you want a shit OS on your gaming rig.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZJKbGf
Just fuck my shit up.

>>59041292

>>>/b/

>>59041303
Nothing wrong m8. Personally i'd get 16GB of RAM and 1 or 2 additional case fans but it's a perfectly fine build.

>>59041317
Thanks

16:9 1440p@144hz or 21:9 1440p@100hz

which one lads?
been stuck on this choice lads

>>59041303
you did alright but there's far cheaper graphics cards and mobos

here's some suggestions: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DNppWX

Building this one once my finals are over:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/D7wZjc

I'm still unsure about the CPU though. I built my current rig in 2009 including a i7-920 which has 4C/8T. It's kinda awkward to only have 4C/4T 8 years later. Would you recommend an i7?

>>59041365
It's not only cheaper, it's also worse.. for what fucking purpose?

First time building a pc after owning a pre-built itx. I scrapped some old parts like liquid cooler and psu but I'm scared the voltage might not be enough , It says I would be consuming around 540+ watts on my 620 watt old one. Should I upgrade?

Here's my rig (prices not adjusted)
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/fHWCqk
pls r8

>>59041365
>MSI
>Gigabyte
No thanks, I'm not that poor.

>>59041385
>$50 for 100MHz higher boost clock
please enlighten me how that's worth it

>>59041373
either get a z270 mobo and unlocked CPU for that price or get a b250 mobo for $80 and keep that locked CPU.
If you dont have an optical drive you can get the Define C instead.

>>59041448
XFX cards are the best Radeon cards you can get , in terms of clocks and reliability.

>>59041292
>You're going to use the integrated GPU?
Nah I have a GTX970 if that's what you're asking?

>>59041448
>worse PCB
>worse HSF
>worse OC
Idk m8... beats me.

>>59041467
Then why did you say you needed DVI/HDMI when asking about motherboard suggestions?

here's a list of compatible mobos with 4+ SATA ports: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#c=42,50,52&sort=d6&page=1&K=4,10

>>59041478
alright

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>>59036171
>Pic related
>My first pc from 2013
How do I make an aesthetically pleasing looking pc? I want a new build after rysen comes out.

>>59041613
buy a decent case.

>>59041676
Im thinking about getting a Corsair 400C, what do you recommend? Is a Mini itx case worth it?

>>59041613
Get a good case, do some cable management, color coordinated parts, gaymur LEDs. Pretty much anything to make it not look like a metal rack with wires without turning it into a rocket ship.

>>59041711
Fractal or Phanteks

>>59041535
>Then why did you say you needed DVI/HDMI when asking about motherboard suggestions?
Because I'm a retard I guess; Thanks I'll look at the suggestions

>>59041721
This case is nott good for cable managment. The psu is semi modular but it still has a bunch of cables i cant get rid of. It doesnt even have an 8 pin for future gpus

>>59041711
only worth it if you want something tiny for example on your desk instead of a big box on your floor or under your desk.

>>59041752
you'll need a new PSU aswell then. you can re-use the SSD, HDD and cooler. rest needs to be replaced if you want AESTETHICS

after falling for the GTX 750Ti meme a few years ago and being satisfied with it, I finally managed to sell it off for half its price.

which video card should I get now? I'm open to spending $200 or $300.

Would appreciate some advice/improvements:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QMy7nn

Was recently given the hand me down graphics card for free by a friend and I'm trying to stay below 1000. I'd probably be upgrading the graphics card in the future though.

>>59041958
RX480 8G should be the best bet with that budget.

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>>59042081
>8GB
The whole point of the 480 is getting high quality 1080p performance for a bidet price
You don't need 8GB for 1080p ever and you don't need to spend $50 extra

>>59041721
>>59041722
>>59041822
Is a widowed case worth spending on? Im not spending $75+ for a pc case

>>59042104
If you're not willing to pay premium for AESTHETICS, then no.

>>59042104
only if you want to be able to see the inside of the case.

a non-windowed case that has sound dampening material in the side panel is quieter.

>>59041958
RX480

>>59042081
>>59042140
what if I want Nvidia?

>>59042100
>You don't need 8GB for 1080p
Benchmarks on this please.

>>59042144
Well GTX1070 is out of your budget and GTx1060 is worse than RX480 but if that's what you want, suit yourself.

>>59042104
>I'm not spending $75 on a PC case
Good luck with cable management then faggot.

>>59042166
>GTx1060 is worse than RX480
This is just wrong. The 1060 is the same performance for more. That's all.

>>59042181
No it's overall a little worse, the benchmark for this is posted here almost every single thread.
You also pay more for the same or slightly worse performance.

>>59042166
I mean, if you play assassins creed and literally nothing else, on quality settings that won't even allows 60fps, then maybe spending an extra $40 might be a reasonable option
http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2503-amd-rx-480-4gb-vs-8gb-benchmark-is-it-worth-it
>I found this well-hidden secret gem by googling "1080p VRAM benchmark" by the way sweetie

>>59042181
Nvidia cards are designed to be replaced every 2 years unlike amd . It would start off performing better than AMD then it would perform worse and worse as time passes.

>>59042219
>overall
>started off as a clear winner, over 10% average gains across dozens of games, and up to 5% worse in DX12 games
Now it shows 2% of gains across DX11 games and it's 12% worse than the RX480 in DX12 games
I'm no fanboy in just saying the RX480 has legitimately gotten better like /g/ always meme'd, and is now essentially the exact same performance, that at this point, the pricetag should be telling you whether to buy a 1060 or 480

>>59042144
depends on the price in your country. the 1060 and rx480 is the same performance so get the cheaper one (dont buy the 1060 3GB)

>>59042288
a friend is selling me his Zotac 6 GB 1060 AMP! Edition for about $220.

>>59042386
Damn that is one cheap-ass "friend"
I bet it doesn't work 1/10 times and he just didn't want to go through returning it so he sold it to you for essentially the same price he bought it for

>>59042409
he said he bought it for $300, has used it for 3 months and wants a 1070.

>>59042232
If you play the games listed, sure, but idk about other titles. I like Total War and Civ, especially modded Civ and on my old PC with 8GB RAM and 1GB VRAM it eats through the RAM like nothing.
Sure, anecdotal and my use case, but imho it depends on the games, future plans and local sales.

>>59042452
>8GB RAM and 1GB VRAM
>been talking about VRAM this entire time
>1GB is still less than 4GB

>>59042478
This uses almost all RAM, so 8GB VRAM should help.

>>59042452
But I do agree that anybody who's expecting high-ultra 1080p gaymen should have 8Gb of RAM, but I also think that 4GB of VRAM is more than enough if you're on a 1080p budget
On integrated graphics though, if it happen to be powerful enough to even render games (and I'd assume you're below 1080p and at minimum settings at this point), then yes, because integrated graphics use an amount of RAM as VRAM it would be a good idea to have excess RAM

I also got linked to this.
http://www.rfgp.com.cn/products/?type=detail&id=27
>144 Hz
>32 inches

>1080p
>brand is called Tiemu
literally who is Tiemu? should I try getting chinked?

>>59042511
And having even 2Gb of VRAM, extremely high speed and well integrated GPU VRAM would make things a lot better for you.
Even if you are using some software wizardry to use RAM as VRAM like integrated graphics, regular RAM is pretty pathetic compared to onboard high speed VRAM next to your actual GPU
Or more likely, you're not using RAM as VRAM and are just hitting GPU limits off your 1 gigabyte of VRAM, while somehow loading up your regular ram with other nonsense

>>59042416
you can get a 1060 6GB for less than $250 brand new, but you should give him the finger and buy a RX480 8GB instead, same performance but much cheaper.

>>59042550
only the koreans have cheap good monitors

>>59039570
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Not sure how updated it is.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VyhdtJ

Is the motherboard ok? Its just cheaper to get the msi b150i instead of an Atx and a wifi network card. Im pretty sure Im good with the rest of the build, but any general pointers would be great

>>59042581
>>59042452
RAM is used for game files.
VRAM is used for textures and shit.

You're both retarded.

>>59042581
Well.. point is that for some games and or modded games 8GB VRAM can be helpful, even at 1080p.
Also future games will not utilize less RAM than they do today. 40 bucks for additional 4GB VRAM are fine in my book.

>>59042648
RAM is not VRAM except in integrated graphics dude, that's the point

>>59042647
So his 1GB of VRAM should be plenty for 1080p games right? It's obviously his 8Gb of regular RAM that's the problem right?

Best mobo manufacturers?

>>59042796
Did I even say anything about that you retarded fucking wankstain? Go back to school and learn some fucking basic reading comprehension.

Waiting for the Ryzen meme processor, man the drama it's going to be so good.

>>59042833
Well if you read my post you would know your reply had nothing of relevance to what I said

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>>59036171
And I thought using a milk crate as a case was cheap enough...

>>59042877
it did to one of you and i really dont give a shit what you think

Was digging around in the shed the other day and I found a PC left by a housemate from a few years ago

Asus PBZ68 - L XV Motherboard
Intel core i5 -2400
Corsair GS700 power supply
Sapphire HD 7950 Graphics card
Seagate Barracuda 500GB harddrive
empty ram slots

Could this be turned into a low end gaming PC by replacing a part or two? I think it was put in the shed years go cause the power supply was busted.

Going to be building a computer for my mom. Uses will probably be limited to facebook, youtube, skype, and maybe netflix. Budget around $450. Hows it looking?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vBXZjc

>>59043026
get some ram and you're good.
maybe an SSD for dem load times.
alternatively 2500k, cooler and new GPU.

>>59043026
A decent GPU could make it run some games but that CPU and 1333mhz ram just isn't gonna cut it for that much longer. I'd either get a 1050 and try to sell it when you want to upgrade or get something like a RX480 and upgrade the CPU/motherboard/RAM when it becomes possible
An extra SSD will help it load data quicker, I don't know what your budget is but it's something to consider if the HDD is fucky or just slow

>>59043075
>buying a 2500k to upgrade from a 2400
That's fucking retarded, 2500k's are nearly the same price as any mid-high end Kaby Lake and paying that to go from a quad core sandy bridge to a quad core sandy bridge with 100 extra MHz is even more retarded
He needs to save up a little and get a CPU upgrade he'll be able to notice, in the meantime the 2400 will... run games at least, and if he gets a decent GPU now itll even run some modern games fairly well

>>59043075
you can still buy 2500k's today? or maybe I'm thinking these 2500k's are 'newer' gen?

>>59043034
i think multiple drives will be confusing unless your mom is not tech illiterate.
do you really need onboard wifi?
that case is xbox huge you can get something much smaller.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6VzRM8

>>59043129
get a 2700k then

also
>buying brand new
please commit sudoku you stupid fuck.
I got my 2500k, 16GB RAM and NH-D14 for $160 shipped.

>>59043194
second hand market you fucking moron

>>59043212
ah so you don't buy brand new.

well okay.

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>>59043212
>buying old CPUs that are now matched even by laptop CPUs
>1333 MHz RAM
>modern gaymen
>b-b-but I save $80 on my motherboard by re-buying the CPU I already have!

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>>59043241
why the hell would you buy 5 year old PC hardware brand new for inflated prices when you could get it for a fraction of the original retail cost???

>>59043255
>price difference between old hardware and a whole new laptop
>implying i cant run modern games with exactly that setup
>implying it's the exact same setup
let me know when you have real arguments

>>59043312
why would you buy 5 year old PC hardware period?

>>59043351
read the convo from the start

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>>59043312
I'm not implying it can't run games, that's why I suggested buying a decent GPU and sticking with the CPU he has for right now.
I was saying that when the time comes to upgrade his CPU, he should spend a little extra money to get ram that's 2-4x faster, a CPU that *significantly* outperforms what he has now, and a motherboard with the right fucking pcie slot for his GPU
I don't think that's any less reasonable than suggesting that someone actually pays money to get a 2500k when they have a 2400
Also the meme will be out by then, he'll have a better situation as a buyer if he waits until his 2400 can't take it anymore. And like you said, that 2400 will be able to play modern games just fine right? No need to "upgrade" to the exact same thing he has

>>59043439
and i never said he had to upgrade the CPU if you read my fucking reply to his original post, it was just a suggestion so he could OC without spending too much money

>>59043470
>Suggests paying $80-150 just for the ability to overclock and nothing else
>But paying $200 for doubled ram speeds, doubled clock speeds and doubled PCIe bandwidth is stupid

>>59043212
>do you really need onboard wifi?
It needs wifi in some form since its not going to be near the router. Does a pcie or usb adapter have some kind advantage over onboard?
>that case is xbox huge
The case looked nice. I'll see if she likes that lian li case.
I'm considering dropping the dvd drive. Any suggestions for other small cases?

>>59043527
Onboard wifi is literally just a mpcie wifi card
PCIe is better than USB because of the huge potential wattage draw, but both are shit and should be cheap, temporary fixes until you buy a long enough Ethernet cable, so don't spend a lot and don't plan on it staying there

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>>59043508
>80-150
literally under 100 you fucktard
>implying RAM speeds make a huge difference
kek
>implying even a 1080 can max out PCI-E 2.0
top fucking zozzle matey
and you wont be getting CPU, Mobo and RAM for just $200

just fucking stop posting you clueless fuck.


>>59043527
ITX mobo doesnt have space for PCI-e Wifi and USB dongles are usually shit.

There's tons of options available. I suggest you go on newegg and browse their ITX compatible cases.

>>59043600
At this point he has all the info he needs to make a decision, I still think my very first reply is the best option
By the time the 2400 won't be enough, the 2500k won't be enough

>>59043600
regular pci-e wifi*

there might be a mini slot but usually not on cheaper boards and those wifi cards are more expensive

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>>59043212
>2500k and NH-D14
I mean my 6600k is at 4.7GHz on a hyper 212 evo, no need to spend $60 on poo fans
What's your clock at bruuuuh?

>>59043676
>those wifi cards are more expensive
The first thing that comes up when I google "mPCIe wifi card" is an Intel wifi card (with 5GHz as well) for $11 on amazon

>>59043718
stock cus im still using a shitty gtx470.

what's your temp and noise at bruh?

i havent even put the noctua fan on, just using a spare 120mm that i lean against one of the heatsinks and idle at 35C while still inaudible

>>59043745
new or used?

it's pretty normal for things to cost more when you cram the same stuff into a much smaller area.

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>inb4meme

I've been shopping for an AIO and while the NZXT Kraken looks amazing it's super expensive. I think the Corsair H105 looks great and it is much more affordable but it's a three year old design.

Would I be stupid to not buy a more recent design due to aesthetics or does it really make no difference?

>>59043789
No it's not, they use whatever size of components get supplied to them, PCIe wifi cards have nothing "too big for mPCIe"

>>59043817
check reviews and compare effectiveness. if they get similar temps it doesnt matter which one you get.

>>59043817
Or you could simply get a Noctua NH-U14S for half the price which will offer you excellent cooling that can compete with AIO coolers.
>inb4 muh ugly poo coolers
At least poo coolers aren't at risk to leak cooleant after 3 years.

>>59043883
and they dont have pump noise

>>59043817
The NZXT Kraken is actually very good, even for AIO-hating memers like myself, it consistently performs much cooler and has less pump noise than the H110i variants
Plus I think the design is more than aesthetic enough, I mean it's a fucking radiator piped to a flat cylinder I would sacrifice anything just for look

>>59043883
It can compete with the H105i, not with the X52

>>59043883

I already have an air cooler that does an OK job (212 Evo). I'm upgrading because I hate how air coolers look.

>>59043909

I love how the Kraken looks but the the X52 is $50 more than the H105 which pushes it out of budget. I might be able to swing for an X61, that's just a $20 difference but I don't like the pump design as much as the H105.

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>>59044006
>I'm upgrading because I hate how air coolers look.

>>59043961
I know but since he considered the 105 over the Kraken since it's ridiculously priced..

>>59044006
>I'm upgrading because I hate how air coolers look
That's just completely stupid if you ask me, but suit yourself. Read some reviews on the options you have and decide.
Keep in mind though that AIO coolers are usually louder and worse to clean than air and bad AIOs can leak.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/29ksPs

Here's what I've got so far.

I'm thinking about dropping the (4x 140mm fans + cpu heatsink) for (2x 120mm fans + AIO) I figure it'll save me about $60, but it'll mean my GPU's only dissipating heat through the single rear 120mm fan instead of the top.

Obviously it'll be a zen build, so I don't have an AM4 / Zen CPU yet.

>>59044097
Are those in US Dollars or Canadian monopoly money?

>>59044154
looks like monopoly money

>>59044154
it's monopoly money brah

We pay like 200% the price for the same shit you guys do

>>59044097
you get paste with the cooler.
you dont need extra fans or replace any existing fans.
you can get 8GB version of the GPU for the same price.
platinum psu is overkill.
no need to pay that much for just 200mhz faster ram.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Pkh8yf

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>>59044182
Based Trudeau

>>59044097
>M.2
>No NVMe

Why

Operating System

MS Windows 7 64-bit SP1 & coa, & install disk.

CPU

Intel Processor HASWELL 4 GEN I5 4690 @ 3.5 GHZ QUADCORE CPU.

RAM

8 GB DUAL CHANNEL RAM.

Motherboard

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. B85M-E (SOCKET 1150)

Graphics

AMD Radeon HD 5570 2 GIG G/C WITH DVI,HMDI, NEW.

Hard Drives

120 GB Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120GB SATA6 NEW.

200 GB Seagate ST3200820AS ATA Device ; STORAGE.

Optical Drives

HL-DT-ST BD-RE BDE WRITER.

He wants $325, and it comes with a 19 inch monitor. GOod or bad?

>>59044223
It has nothing to do with Trudeau and everything to do with oil prices, Mr. Once-a-Week.

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Can I use this Asrock TPM in a Asus motherboard? My motherboard have the connector

>>59044246
It'll play pretty much any modern game you throw at it (maybe not on ultra ultra settings but medium and above).

Could use a larger hard drive for storage but at least there's an SSD in there as well for the OS.

>>59044232
How do I tell which m.2's are NVMe and which ones aren't?

I'm new to SSD's and don't know what formats do what. Should I be looking for m.2 SSD's that go in a pcie slot?

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>>59044246
>code tag for this

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>>59044292
>>59044246
>5570
That will absolutely not play any modern game at medium and above. It straight up won't play a lot of things. That card isn't really meant for gaming. It's probably a LP card meant for HTPC usage.

Rest of the system is okay for what you're getting though.

>>59044362
Any bullshit card with 2G VRAM will play pretty much any modern game at medium and above.

Note I said medium and above.

>>59044306
go to a different site that has better description/filters

>>59044306
>>59044391
also, NVMe is a verison of m.2 not pci-e. pci-e ssd is an option but make sure the mobo you get can boot off it if you get this.

>>59044306

On PCPartPicker filter for the "M.2 (M)" interface.

>>59044401
>>59044407
Alright, I swapped the 850 out for a 960 (250gb)

I don't really use a lot of HDD space as it is, so that should be good enough with the drives I already have.

>>59044246
Not bad for 325, just replace gfx card

>>59044265
Likely yes

>>59044582
>>59044582
>>59044582

>>59044619
>enterprise drives

>>59044631
>still using the poorly worded greentext version
please...

>>59044649
My wording is better than the greetext in this thread, and anyway you copied most of the greentext from me and then fucking forgot to copy the context

>>59044659
>Subsitute a G4560 with 2400MHz RAM for any Pentium or i3

literally means "buy an i3 instead of a G4560"

look at the text after that, it says you save money, but the i3 is more expensive...

>>59044659
also the 1050 is not worth it, the 1050ti is

>>59044678
"x + y = z"
"Substitute 3 for x"
"3 + y = z"

If you need me to further break it down for you, the G4560 takes the place of the other Pentium or i3.

I don't often say this but kill yourself

>>59044710
do you really think the average tard on this website knows basic fucking english? they cant even fucking read the OP post for fuck sake

write it so even a fucking 3rd world nigger could understand it

>>59044692
Wrong, the 1050Ti has a worse price/perf ratio than the 1050. The 1050Ti is a bad value considering the RX470 is right above it in price. The 1050Ti is the most powerful card for the average prebuilt, so they charged a premium.

I'd pull the latest techpowerup performance summary but their site is down

>>59044767
460 is better choice than 1050

>>59044780
Again, absolutely fucking wrong. The 1050 is cheaper and performs better. >>59044747

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>>59044819
>2 frames better
>$10 more expensive

well yesterday i sold my pc with an 6600k, and now my temporary pc has an amd athlon x4 640, well i did not have any thermal paster so i took toothpaste, works great!

>>59045029
we know, just remember to keep an eye on it for when it dries and stops working great

>>59045050
I thought it was supposed to keep working after it dries?