Ryzen BTFO

>>59035637
Is it too much to ask for benchmarks all at the same speed?

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Pajeets are sliding this...

>Intel's newest arch 3% faster in games with 20% higher clocks

How can Intel ever recover? A company that literally had a 1.7 billion market cap a year ago demolished them.

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>>59035690
But Pajeet-kun these are the stock speeds. I know that it upsets you watching a $500+ Ryzen chip getting BTFO by a 2 year old $300 Intel chip, honestly what did you expect from AMD?

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>>59035755
Cool, can we test these two next? They're just a slightly higher _stock_ speed.

That's pretty much where I expected Zen to lie.

Infact, that's pretty damn good. per core performance similar to intels' top end?

That's more than I predicted.

>>59035723
Let's just compare prices.

1700x = $389

i5-6600k = $220

BTFO

>>59035782
But Pajeet, can't you read? Those are the 8c higher end Ryzen chips.

>>59035828
So is the one in the OP :P

About 5 months ago IIRC.

>>59035637
I bet it kicks ass analyizing/playing chess!

>>59035755
Lololol BTFO ? Reality must be difficult for you.

>>59035637
>a Ryzen engineering sample running at 3.15 GHz isn't faster than an overclocked Intel running at 4 GHz
>implying this is representative of anything except your butthurt
Intlel shills confirmed for desperate

>>59035872
>6700k
>4.0
>overclocked
Yea this tells me you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

>>59035891
This leak must be real, since it shows AMD slightly behind Intel. All the other dozens that btfo Intel are obviously fake

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>engineering sample
>3.15GHz with no boost
Silly little kike.

>>59035891
Oh right, I forgot the 'k' ones are clocked that high by default. Sorry, anon.
Still doesn't change the fact that it's a very early sample and there's almost 1 GHz difference in clocks.

>>59035918
If anything this is the most detailed and reputable leak of Zen even to this day.
CannardPC is way more legit than random niggers who jacked a sample from somewhere and ran cinnebench with god knows what setup, even if it's a few month older leak.

>>59035891
Not like you could even afford a new build, Pajeet.

>>59035637
the sad thing is that while OP is trolling, there are people on this board who will look at this, not understand that most of these games barely use three cores and only care about how fast those three cores are, making the other five cores irrelevant.

It's also interesting that they're so willing to ignore how close the Ryzen sample is to the 6900k while being clocked lower.

Why do you niggers care so much about CPUs and video cards anyway?

>>59035968
An ES chip from months ago clocked significantly slower is not reputable in any way, anon.

>>59036026
You're ignoring the suite and source because they got a A1 stepping? That's more than enough to calculate its IPC, further steppings would not increase that.
And since we already know stock clocks and IPC we already know its performance, it's elementary math.

>>59036054
You have nothing, shill.

>>59036026
what, yes it is.

The benchmarks Canard PC released are in line with everything else we've seen, including that from AMD. The difference is that Canard PC released the most comprehensive benchmarks we've seen to date, although they only had an engineering sample, which only means that the performance will actually be slightly higher than what they showed, and the performance they're showing is GOOD.

>>59035637
>>59035755
>>59035814
>>59035828
>>59035891
>>59035927
>>59035972
>>59036026
>>59036054
>AMD Chip at 3.4Ghz
>6700K at 4.2Ghz
>3.4/4.2 = .81
>97.3/118.2 = .82
Oh cool, so AMD has the same performance per clock as Intel now.

>>59036149
>Oh cool, so AMD has the same performance per clock as Intel now.
Factually wrong

>>59035637
>Engineering sample with 3.15 GHz base and 3.40 boost clocks when the final retail hardware will have a base clock of either 3.4 or 3.6 GHz and boost clock of 3.8 or 4.0 GHz
>Still doing well against the Intel hardware it'll be going up against
Well color me impressed. Looks like Intel is going to need to start slashing those prices or start spending billions again on bribing OEMs not to sell machines with AMD chips.

So they're good at everything that 90% of consumer base isn't interested in and suck at everything that your average normie needs.

I knew it didn't make sense for them to be so fucking cheap. It's not like AMD sells their GPUs 200% cheaper when being competitive.

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>lol K10 is gonna destroy intel
>K10 BTFO
>K-K-K-K10 was just a mistake, F-F-F-Fusion will BTFO intel for sure!
>Fusion BTFO
>Dozer will bring AMD back to greatness really this time!
>Dozer BTFO
>Zen will destroy Intel once and for all we really mean it this time!
>Zen eternally BTFO

Is there any benchmarks on the lower end chips?

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>Intelfags

>>59036158
I literally proved it through math. You literally can't argue with those calculations.
81% of the clock speed translates to 82% of the performance.

>>59035637
We all knew it would be shit for games when we saw the physics benchmarks, but people kept ignoring it. If it proves good for workstation use upon release I'll probably still get one.

>>59036205
AMD doesn't scale that much since they have much worse IPC 1GHz Intel = 1.5GHz amd

>>59036209
see
>>59036149

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fuck you nerds get baited easily

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>>59036205
Not this guy but it still doesn't matter unless you're implying that AMD will magically gain 1-1.5GHZ through oc to compete with Kabylike.

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>>59036198
Better.

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>>59035920
jewboy

>>59036017
Why do people on /tv/ care so much about movies and shows?

>>59036258
they don't

>>59036187
and yet, amdfags continue to believe the hype instead of adopting a more reasonable wait and see approach. personally I'm a performance hound and couldn't give two shits about brand name.

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>>59036234
Wow, it's almost like they don't have significantly higher clocked SKUs than a 5 month old engineering sample.
Overclock? Won't even need to, but will do lovely for H265

>>59036267
Yes they do...

>>59036234
They've already pushed base clocks up to the boost of the ES chip.
top of the line 8c boosts to 4Ghz (and above with XFR)
How many people do you know will actually overclock? How many won't overclock but will still end up with performance gains through XFR anyways?

You can cry all you want but the reckoning is coming.

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>>59035637
DELET THIS

>>59035637
Source?

>>59036286
have you been there? they care about memes only

>>59036234
>Dumb, uninformed normalfaggot.

Nothing to see here.

>>59035637
Really now tho, what did you expect? AMD magically being able to hold a candle against Intel? It's time to just accept the monopoly.

But dude, kabylake absolutely DECIMATES ryzen xD
5% better single core performance is more important than having 8 cores and 16 threads for the same price as an Intel 4 core CPU xD dude, fuck amd hahahah

Is it better in gaymes?, if not, it's a flop ahaha

Even if the i7 6900k was $300 and not $1100, everyone would be getting a 4 core i7 for the same price instead because of the ebin artificial single core performance increase achieved by factory bumping the multiplier which is something you can do yourself in less than 2 minutes ahaha, but I don't want to do that nerd shit xD Fuck that

AMD RYZEN DOA
LOOK AT THESE BENCHMARKS OF DIFFERENT CLOCK SPEEDS
AHAHA AMD BTFO hahehe xD

>>59036316
I used to go there all the time.

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>>59035637
It actually looks very decent, especially if you consider that all of those games are 2+ years old and use previous gen graphics API without great multi threading.

>>59035755
That's not the $500 chip's stock speed.

>>59036334
>used to

i dont recommend a return visit

It's clocked significantly lower and they're releasing chips that turbo(xfr?) over 4.0, should also have no problem overclocking another 400MHz, couple that with the massive amount of threads and L3 cache that should scoop up some clockspeed disadvantage from KabyLake overclocks, you got yourself both a gaming and workstation machine.
The only ones who'll have a trouble with this are people who REALLY,REALLY need 40+ PCIe lanes unless motherboards come with a PLX chip.

>>59036327
Pajeets in full dmg ctrl.

>>59036395
hahaha dude ikr
Fuck those AMD pajeets xD

only retards buy 8 core 16 thread CPUs ahahaha
if the 6900k was $300, I would still get a wimpy 4 core CPU instead because of a 2x higher multiplier out of the box hahaha xD
Also, XFR is fake dude. It totally won't oc itself to 4+GHz and btfo based Intel xD fuck them xD

>>59036393
>>59036352
>>59036347
>>59036327
>>59036324
>>59036298
>>59036284
AMDPOOS ON SUICIDE WATCH SUICIDE WATCH CALL THE AMBULANCE !!!!!

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>>59036454
>no argument
Go post the 5 month old engineering sample benchmarks on /v/, shill. Can't wait for official benchmarks, kike shill.

I cant wait to see the day Jewtel got BTFO

>>59036475
>B-but it's not released yet!
>B-but they will fix it!

LMAOing at your life.

>>59035637
Ryzen had no boost enabled so it was 3.1 Ghz so pretty good.

>>59036526
Nice fake
THere's no way AMDshit can OC to 4.0 with how shitty GloFo, Intel is literally 10 years ahead of them

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>>59035637

This is nothing new, those are the very first benchmarks released, you forgot the other one here.

Intel shills are very desperate

>>59036526
>But muh fake benchmarks...

Oh (you).

>>59036536
They are using Samsung's fab process.

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>>59036536
They don't have to OC to 4.0, they already have a stock SKU that runs at 4.0.

Wow, imagine that, a 4.0 8 core uses less power than a 3.4 Intel 8 core, I love how shitty GloFo is!
Imagine what happens when they stop being shitty.

>>59036549

shills on overdrive, study psych moar

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>>59035637
by playing gay memes and believing obviously fake benchmarks which have no other benches which corroborate the said bench,

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>>59035637
@ 3.15ghz
Final silicon is 3.6ghz base and 4ghz boost + XFR

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>>59036549
You forgot your trained responses, Abdulah.

>>59036567
>obviously fake benchmarks
or outdated compared to newer more available information.

>>59035637
This is some bretty subtle pro-AMD shilling for /g/.

>>59036558
>Imagine what happens when they stop being shitty.
Dude they got IBM's foundry business, including engineers.

>>59036572

that's also the 1700x

Good lord Intel is FUCKED.

BOOST clock the same as the base clock, in a bunch of single threaded games, and it's only 3% slower.

Intel is FUCKED!

Bring on the next gen API games!

>>59036593

nah actually the shills don't have anything to shill for so they're aiming for anything at this point fishing for weakness

>>59036593

also bad reverse psychology, since it's not

>>59036584
Not outdated at all, these test a variety of tests from single thread mixed workloads to multi-core instead of pure synthetics like cinnebench and 3Dmark that usually poke at certain parts of the CPU without all too much branching without stopping instead of real workloads that jump all over the CPUs hardware.

Its ogre AMD finished.

>>59036667

samefag much, it's the same writing

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>>59036638
FINEWINE TECHNOLOGY® STARTS AT THE VERY BEGINNING!

>>59036711
Don't be retarded.

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>>59036744
Don't use outdated benches

And say my name

Does that sound like the name of someone who doesn't say retarded things?

>>59036783
Everyone is anonymouse to me, besides filtered
tripshits.
You can use those outdated benches because they show more than any new benches, you got your IPC, you know the clockspeed of the chips launching in less than 2 weeks.
Since you know IPC and clockspeed you also know performance, since performance is clockspeed*IPC

>>59036638
Actually these are extremely outdated. These early ES's had a bug that broke branch prediction when SMT was enabled. The boost clocks are lower than the base clocks on the 1700x let alone the 1800x.

>>59035755
the intel one costs $230 actually

>>59036833
>Actually these are extremely outdated. These early ES's had a bug that broke branch prediction when SMT was enabled.
I'm gonna need source on this because this just makes AMD's fantastic performance look even better.

>>59035920
It says 3.4 on the image

>>59036862
There's a sale going on bringing its price down to $200.

>>59036897
fuck I might get one for my HTPC since Ryzen doesn't have a iGPU

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>>59036804
>You can use those outdated benches because they show more than any new benches, you got your IPC, you know the clockspeed
>3.15/3.4
See what I mean?

Extrapolating information from this graph is a bad idea seeing as how it already doesn't have the proper clocks and is the only source of its nature and doesn't specify any thing besides processor, a collective of games, and performance percentage with a 6600 as the base.

There's a lot missing from this graph.

>>59036874

yeah these tests are the very first leaked by canardpc

>>59036916
The reason I believe this benchmark is because the other non-gaming benchmark on the site matches the current leaked ryzen benchmarks

>>59036912
Raven Ridge will have a Vega based IGP.

>>59036949
So I can either get a $200 cpu now or something that costs more later.
I'll go with the 6600

>>59036916
>you know the clockspeed of chips launching in less than 2 weeks
Don't be stupid, the graph could have been run at 2.0GHz for Ryzen and it would still have more information than any newer released one, why? Because all you need to calculate performance is clockspeed(here >>59036284 )and IPC (>>59035637 )

This isn't up for discussion, pure clock numbers aren't important here.

>>59036969
The IGP in Raven Bridge can actually play games and do graphically intensive tasks. But W/E we don't care what you do with your own money.

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>>59036969
If you don't care about IGP performance at all then go ahead. AMDs IGPs are a league above Intel's.

>>59037006
>>59037015
>Performance
Did you guys not read the part where I said it's HTPC?
I just need something so I don't have to buy an actual GPU.

>>59037043

7700k then

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>>59036149
>Oh cool, so AMD has the same performance per clock as Intel now


Thats actually a big deal.


Photo is Random

>>59037006
So now you're talking about the performance of something that we don't even have the specs?

>>59037055
or you know the 6600 for $200 + the cheapest mobo and ram I can find

>>59037043
If you want any kind of additional shaders or post-processing to run on your HTPC you're gonna need a more powerful GPU.

If you're just gonna let the GPU hardware decode your crap then go with the Intel.

>>59037082

yeah that would do, igpu has good perf desu

>>59037082
Intel IGP can't even properly do 4k. But who am I to tell you what to do.

>>59037065
It's 12CU Vega part, that should be no less powerful than a RX460 assuming you don't have 2133MHz single channel RAM with 19CAS latency

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>>59036948
It doesn't specify settings, GPU, memory, or anything else.
I'm not holding my breath, but we'll see when it's released here real soon to see what happens.

>>59036948
>Don't be stupid
>I can take a bunch of numbers that haven't even been confirmed yet and arrive at this arbitrary figure and you should trust me on this because I can into math.

Smart of the Intel shills to act like they know what they're doing. I expected nothing less of the Jews.

Too bad the Jews math is always flawed
Next thing you'll try telling me Intel is going to increase performance by over 15 percent soon.

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>>59037065
Considering AMDs last gen APUs had MUCH better IPG performance than Intel's i think it is safe to say that they won't do worse with DDR4, a better graphics architecture, and better CPU cores to back it up.

>>59037092
If I hadn't been running super-xbr chroma and image upscaling on my old G3258 CPU until 3 weeks ago I would actually believe you

>>59037106
Unless they start making 4k anime anytime soon I don't care.

>>59037120
>It doesn't specify settings, GPU, memory, or anything else.
I mean you could at least pretend that you're not shilling and reverse search the image and find the article on the frogsite.
But don't let me stop you

>>59037126
I'm speaking from experience here, my HD4000 Intel can't even run

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  scale=ewa_lanczos
  cscale=ewa_lanczos
  interpolation
  video-sync=display-resample

Without choking, I had to remove everything besides opengl-hq because dropped frames all over the place and video-sync=display-resample would make the entire program stop dead when I exited fullscreen.

>>59036878
Oh, silly lying kike. That's boost clock which wasn't enabled on the engineering sample. The people who tested it confirmed it.
Why can't you kikes ever be honest?

>>59037163
Worked on my machine™
I sincerely doubt that the 6600 iGPU is worse than the G3258 one
And if it is I guess I'll just swap the new HTPC with the old one that I set up for my parents

>>59037179
Where does it say that?
Because the image clearly says 3.4

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>tfw you realize there aren't any legit Kiketel shills here
>it's actually i5 6600k and 7700k fags with buyer's remorse

>>59035968
CPC also said Zen could hit 5GHz on air. are you going to treat that like gospel as well?

I'm guessing not since it doesn't suit your narrative

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>>59037222
This "everybody skeptical is a shill" thing is really annoying

>>59037232
They said it could hit short of 5GHz air on a single core with a validation motherboard(so possibly higher on a decent mobo, small chance but something to consider), speaking from overclocking experience that should allow all cores to hit 4.3-4.5 depending on silicon quality, but that's an A1 stepping, there have been at least 3 steppings, half a year of fab yields and metal layer changes since then so it's anyone guess, it can be worse or better.

>>59037258
4chan is the target of 24/7 paid chilling. the writing is on the wall at this point.

I'm not saying every Intel fanboy is a shill. sadly though, the possibility is always present, and it's basically killing the fucking board at this point.

>>59037289
The people saying "Ryzen DOA!!!" and the people hyping Ryzen as the second coming of christ are equally annoying imo

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>>59037150
>I can read french, the language of Surrender
ANON
even If I could
IT DOESN'T SPECIFY
and
IT WAS AN ENGINEERING SAMPLE
I know it's an AMD cliche to mention it's an ES with all the shitposting going on lately, but come on.

>>59037314
Retail chips come from ES you dumbo, unless there was something REALLY REALLY wrong with the ES it will have similar to same performance at clocks as the retail units.
And no I'm not fucking talking about 2015 ES's here, but 5 month one that has some branch predictor bugs that account for 1-2% performance, which is nothing.

>>59037222
This. All the "shills" on /g/ and /v/ are mad they spent $350 on a 4 (FOUR) core CPU only to days/weeks later find out they could have gotten an 8 core 16 thread CPU for less. Sad! They're going to defend their terrible purchase until official benchmarks come out and confirm that Intel is BTFO. After that, the only kind of shilling will be ironic and mostly shitposting/baiting.

>>59037314
>IT DOESN'T SPECIFY
https://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/50470/eerste-onafhankelijke-amd-ryzen-benchmarks
there I spoonfed you fag

>>59036221
>The IPC is lower because the IPC is lower
>Here's some random numbers
What

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>I just don't believe how they [AMD] will manage to launch [Ryzen] in 2 weeks. The available quantity (if there are any) will be very small in France.

>M-MUH KABEYLAKEY GETS MORE GHZ FOR GAMING
>ignoring the fact even Intel's own Broadlel-E gets higher game performance at the same clocks because of larger cache and cores, which contrary to popular but idiotic opinion do get used at times to increase the average.
>also doesn't have TIM semen but real solder

>>59037353
>mad they spent $350 on a 4 (FOUR) core CPU only to days/weeks later find out they could have gotten an 8 core 16 thread CPU for less
>days/weeks later

>6700k released August 5, 2015
Yes, around 78 weeks later

>>59037114
>New APUs will outperform five year old midrange or upper end cards
Wew lad

>>59037391
Oh look, it's literally Athlon64 2.0.

>>59037418
yeah if I wasn't already skeptical enough posts like that would do it for me

>>59037418
What the fuck do you think they'll put there? 3000 shaders at 200W? These are 65-95W CPU, moron.

>>59037347
Except the clockspeed of retail samples is a full GHz higher

>>59037391
Classic AMD
>finally has a decent product
>make 500 of them for merica and 5 of them for Europe
>sold out for 3 months after the release

>>59037424
likely we'll get an announcement on feb 28th followed by more delays.

with that said nobody knows just how many chips globo's fab 8 can put out...

>>59037435
And pure GHz numbers are irrelevant you dumb twat, especially more so when you already know how it performs.
It could be clocked at 1.5GHz and we'd still know how it performs at 4.0

>>59037432
I'm not saying that's necessarily a bad thing. It'd probably run Overwatch on medium at 1080p which is kind of impressive for an iGPU.

>>59037448
They can put out a LOT of chips. They just need to shit the to the rest of the world properly.

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>>59037359
>https://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/50470/eerste-onafhankelijke-amd-ryzen-benchmarks
>a website I had already visited and saw no mentions of settings but sure, let's read the whole thing again
>"In the following chart we show the performance in games. That may see some dramatic break - the Ryzen processor come here from around the fen-level Core i5 6600 - but the absolute differences between processors are pieces here smaller than the CPU tests above. Games can hardly take advantage of the high number of cores of Zen, which makes it especially important for this purpose that AMD is the clock frequency in the last phase of the development yet can jack up as high as possible."
next paragraph
>Finally, Canard PC also measured the power consumption under load. When measuring the "ATX-power" meter hit out to 93 watts, which he narrowly efficient than the i7 6900K Intel. The magazine admits to having used the ATX connector, but it is not clear whether they actually here the 24-pin ATX connector mean it. Our tests have shown that most of the consumption of the CPU on the P4 / P8 connector goes, so given the results is obvious that she used. In any case, the results below, at least similar to each other.
SO NOTHING ABOUT THE SETTINGS USED IN GAMES THEN?
>>59037347
What if they didn't have it set to Wumbo for that ES?

>>59037407
>6700k
I'm talking about babbylake (7700k, released less than 2 months ago), not crylake.

>>59037445
>>59037448
60,000 14nm wafers per month.

Which is quite enough, stock has been building for months, if anything the issue will be logistics since AMD has only recently gotten F4 steppings ready and it has to ship those around.

>>59037407
He said kabylake, not skylake. You shills don't even know your kike overlord's products.

>>59037485
the Polaris launch was pretty shit. do we know why it took so long for partners to start putting out aftermarket models?

>>59037487
to be honest, kaby lake is fucking nothing, so that anon is basically right anyway.

not that this excuses intel making no progress whatsoever in those 78 weeks.

>>59037503
GloFo's first 14nm launch, worse yields, larger chips, etc.
Pascal wasn't in high stock on launch either.

>do we know why it took so long for partners to start putting out aftermarket models?
No, possibly due to late board designs since they launched close to Nvidia cards.

>>59037515
>to be honest, kaby lake is fucking nothing
That's exactly my point. It increases buyer's remorse even more, especially for the dumb brainwashed goyim who """"upgraded"""" from crylake to babbylake.
>so that anon is basically right anyway.
No. I was specifically talking about babbylake users. The goyim who bought a skylake chip a year and a half ago won't have as much of a buyer's remorse because it was a long time ago and many of them are planning on upgrading to zen.

>>59037535
well, this is slightly comforting.

now, why would CPC be worried? is it because AMD is still in the development process so close to launch?

>all these retards believing the obviously fake 'leaks' just like the fury x and poolaris 'leaks'

we've seen the real performance of zen already due to dozens of ES leaks alongside canardpc's benchmarks. it's between ivy and haslel, and if priced accordingly could be a great product. there's no reason to fabricate bullshit hype and fall for another of drunken roy taylor's jewish schemes.

>>59037553
No, it's because they still have to ship CPUs everywhere and there's like a week or two before launch.

>>59036149
trying to be objective, but
what about performance per price?

may be a mixed battlefield

>>59037553
I dunno, I'm not French.
I'm only speculating from the fact that AMD's F4 stepping chips are very recent and not in extremely high supply like the F3 ones, so there might be shortage for some SKU.
Other than that it could be a regional issue, maybe AMD doesn't expect to sell too much in France, who the hell knows, there's a million of variables here.

If you already have an Ivy Bridge i7, there is no need to buy Kaby Lake OR Ryzen. Wait until Ice Lake.

>>59037572
>>59037593
You sound nervous, kike. You keep repeating this in every ryzen thread. We'll know everything, soon.

>>59037593
>Wait until Ice Lake.
Maybe Intel will pull another 2-3% IPC improvement from its P6 core? Tune in Q3 2019 to find out.

>>59035637
>WORSE THAN HASWELL
haha...
hahaHAHA...
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

>>59037612
I'd say 1% at very best. You can only fuck P6's dead body for so long.

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>>59035637

>>59037601

the only kikes here are the indian shills generating false hype in an attempt to discredit AMD. just like how they tried to hype the rx480 as a '980ti killer' even though we knew for months beforehand it was a 200mm2 die.

>>59037618
well the $1000+ broadwell-e is also worse than haswell in this benchmark but don't let that get in the way of your shitposting

>>59037612
>Maybe Intel will pull another 2-3% IPC improvement from its P6 core? Tune in Q3 2019 to find out.
They wish.
Anyhow who's gonna buy a deadend architecture? Intel already has plans to release a fresh design in 2021, after the Ice lake dieshrink.

>>59037612
Ice Lake will be the first 10nm CPU on the market, with architectural improvements to allow for more CPU cores on the die than Cannon Lake. Ryzen isn't powerful enough to keep up with Haswell and the only thing it has going for it is a slightly more efficient SMT implementation to give it near parity with Broadwell-E. But once Ice Lake comes out with 8-core i7s on the mainstream socket, AMD will have nothing to respond with. AM4 can't even support PCIe Gen 3 on their southbridge. Intel's been on Gen 3.0 since Skylake two years ago.

>>59037643
>Intel already has plans to release a fresh design in 2021, after the Ice lake dieshrink.
Dude netburst 2.0 lmao.

>>59037641
no one cares about your fucking winrar performance. games are all that matter

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>>59037657

>>59037631

>Bamboozled again

If that happens l am issuing a dates on all these leak sites.

Botnet unleashed.

>>59035637
meh, canceled my preorder, fuck amd and their hype

my 6900k will be enough till i get a 7900k

>>59037641
>muh corez
>moar corez
kys

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>>59037672
>games are all that matter
You have to go back.

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>>59037643
Intel will be kiking with its 2% theoretical synthetic performance from a 'new' architecture on a good day while AMD will release a 16TFLOP FP64 behemoth.

For everyone's sakes I hope their new x86 uarch isn't another Itanium/Shitburst or we'll get a good few years of AMD jewing us.

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>>59037657
>But once Ice Lake comes out with 8-core i7s on the mainstream socket
At 700 USD for the lowest entry maybe.
>>59037672
>>59037691
Please, go back to /v/, it's your natural habitat.

>>59037657

All for the low, low cost of 1500 dollars.

>>59037407
I think he's referring to the 7700K as that's also a $350 4C/8T chip that only came out about a month ago.

>>59037704

That in a dual socket, now.

Itanium was great, it just had shit software support and Intel was afraid of leaving their money maker behind.

>>59037672
>>59037691
neither of those retards understood the post they were replying to

point and laugh

>>59037742
>Itanium was great
No it wasn't.

>>59035637
Why dont you guys just buy a console like everyone else then you wouldnt have to spend everyday on /g arguing about the latest gpu specs.

Do you not see how pathetic your lives have become?

>>59035637
>engineering sample with a clock deficit

I really don't understand the problem here.

>>59037704
>APU with HBM

Holy shit the madmen are actually going to do it?

>>59037773
That's not for consumers. That's supercomputer nodes.

>>59037768
>/g/ - Technology

>>59037742
Itanium was great at doing like two tasks, you can't leave everything to the compiler, bad idea Intel.

>intel BTFO when ryzen does well in benchmarks
>engineering sample when ryzen does poorly

>>59037708
I'd rather pay $700 for the best performance and highest connectivity CPU available than $600 for some has-been CPU catching up to technology from several years ago.

>>59037812
I'd buy Zen++ over Ice Lake too, not like anyone expects a Skylake dieshrink to compete with a third Zen iteration.

>>59037788
Do you think they'll have a scaled down version for consumers at some point?

>>59037797
it's always engineering samples

go ahead and panic

>>59035637
People like you are what's wrong with this world and thid board. U just can't accept anything. If you are buying a cpu like Ryzen you are probably gonna buy a seperate gpu so no need for igpu, are u literally retarded, igpus are just a waste of space on the cpu nowadays. You are so fucking stupid, if I saw u in front of me I would fucking rage so hard. U are fucking mentally retarded to be asking shit like that fucking Intel jew, go suck off that 6700 igpu or whatever it is you'll never use it anyway go pay that 400$ for it u fucking retard. I am so pissed rn at how dumb u are, u are ruining this board and just making an idiot out of yourself. Please just stay off the internet in general if u are gonna ask questions like these u fucking attention seeking intel bastard. All u guys want is attention now because amd is the only one doing stuff. I bet you still live in your mum's house and suck ur dad off for that nice 6700 igpu. ITS SO NICE HAVING AN IGPU LOOK AT ME AMDFAGS HAHAHA AMD IS FINISHED NO IGPU, AMD BTFO. SHUT THE FUCK UP I WILL KILL YOU YOU STUPID FAG, STOP POSTING USELESS THREADS LIKE THESE U FUCKING RETARD. U made me so mad I wanna punch the wall and hope there's you on the other side so it would shatter your dumb skull you stupid fuck. I bet you are gonna make another shit thread after this one gets removed because it is SHIT just like your igpu and your shit intel cuck cpu. So fuck off to another board or off 4chan, because u can't handle us or even basic logic like why there isn't an igpu in ryzen cpu's. Can't wait for the release to see you cry and be mad at yourself for spending so much of your dad's money on a shit intel cpu with an igpu u won't ever need. JUST FUCK OFF!! AND IF U EVER MAKE A THREAD LIKE THIS AGAIN, I WILL MAKE SURE YOU WILL NEVER VISIT THIS SITE AGAIN. So bye intelfaggot and I hope I'll never get to see you or one of your threads ever again!!

>>59037704
AMD's a way from getting back into the FP64 game.

Vega 10/11 punts on it Fiji style, and Vega 20 won't be out until next year.

MCM'able APUs built from Raven Ridge's Vega 20 descendants will be out in 2019 if we're very lucky.

>>59037846
I really wonder what kind of consumer needs 16TFLOPs of double precision.

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>>59037762

Clock for clock, it was MUCH faster than X86.

Intel just couldn't commit to it and create an ecosystem worth a damn. Which caused Oracle to back out, and Oracle will develop for anything. Coupled with the only big buyer being HP, and Intel couldn't let go of their X86 baby.

>>59037841
Intel's fucked for now, but they turned around pretty fast after P4 became an obvious dead end.

I don't think what comes out in 2019 will be what people are expecting today.

>>59037914
Pray to gods that their new arch is not fucking shitburst 2.0.

>>59037893
It also clocked substantially lower, did very poorly on x86 emulation/backward support, screamed "vendor lock-in, forever" to customers, and was really reliant on compiler optimizations that didn't pan out soon enough.

ITT

>AMDfags talking normally discussing technology and using common sense and basic semiconductor knowledge for arguments with a few outlier idiots as normally you'd expect from a large fanbase
>Intelfags acting completely insane and rambling without a coherent thought, constantly contradicting themselves and ignoring facts written by other sources, also refuse to accept basic math

Why are these threads always like this? I mean you can get better discussion on fucking Anandtech forums from Intelfags, at least a few people there know what bloody 6T SRAM is!

>>59037213
the image says 3.15/3.4

>>59037953
>expecting decent discussion after gamergate and /pol/ happened
No, you don't.

>>59037950

Low clock speeds for low energy consumption, while achieving the same throughput as the fastest X86 servers at the time. Itanium was failed by it's ecosystem.

>>59037914
>I don't think what comes out in 2019 will be what people are expecting today.
2019 is a new architecture, like Skylake, but ever since Broadwell increases in IPC have been steadily dropping, accumulating to their biggest low with Skylake.
Ice Lake is another such but there's only so much Intel can squeeze out of its P6 base design, If we're lucky we'll get another 5% IPC improvements across the board and not cherrypicked FP but I really doubt it.
The thing is P6 is on its last legs while Ryzen is fresh, it has more performance to squeeze out and we can expect good performance and power upgrades each year, already next year will Zen+ jump over Kaby Lake IPC.
That's the real issue Intel faces until their new urach in 2021/2022.

>>59038026
Zen is basically a rip-off of this so called "P6" base design. Almost everything has been copied over from Intel's prior groundwork. Keller hasn't done shit but Xerox for AMD and explain how proper processors work.

>>59038010
>Itanium was failed by it's ecosystem.
Yeah, that's kind of a big thing, VLIW is VLIW, of course it has more throughput than x86 but it's a nightmare to code.

>>59038059
Not that's some quality shitposting.

Would it be a good time to upgrade from a 4790k?
I've been wanting a reason to get a new computer and I want to do an mATX build.

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>>59037914
It took Intel 6 YEARS to turn around the catastrophe that was Netburst.

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>>59037812
>I'd rather pay $700 for the best performance and highest connectivity CPU available than $600 for some has-been CPU catching up to technology from several years ago
Sorry, I was being too kind, let me rephrase that

1100 compared to 500 as of this moment.

And by the time Intel can even react and lower prices steadily without looking like Jews, AMD will be the better single threaded and multi-threaded processor. (Zen+ and Zen S in the coming 2-3 years)

I truly hope Intel the best of luck trying to ride on an over 2 decade architecture while AMD comes to fuck their shit up real good. (Praise be to Keller)

You must come to peace with this. You must achieve... Zen.


>>59038059
>"muh copying Intel meme!"
Neck yourself, you outsider. If AMD can be better at being Intel, than Intel, so be it.

>>59037953
>be /v/edditor
>want to build a new PC
>everyone recommends the latest entry level i7 because i5 is becoming "obsolete" (games are starting to use more threads cores xDD)
>buy the latest entry level i7 like everyone else
>2 weeks later Ryzen benchmarks and price get leaked
>extreme buyer's remorse sets in
>dude cores don't matter, who needs 8 cores and 16 threads for $300? games only use 1 core!
99% of shitposting and unironic shilling is from buyer's remorse fags. It's understandable, but inteldrones are taking it too far. They're lying, strawmanning, moving goalposts left and right. They're only making themselves appear insane as you said.

>>59038059
Cool shitpost, Onii-chan, the only thing Zen and Intel's designs have similar is register sizes, and that's pretty much the staple of high performance core from POWER to SPARC.
Its caches, branch predictor, power management are nowhere similar.
If AMD could copy Intel's core they would have done it 5 years ago.

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>>59037704
>For everyone's sakes I hope their new x86 uarch isn't another Itanium/Shitburst

You forgot Tejas/Jayhawk

>100 stage bipelines

It was so bad it didn't even make it to market.

>>59038059
What the fuck age do you think this is, this isn't a bloody 80286 you can pull a electronic microscope trace it and make copy it you dumbass clown.

>>59038127
>100 stage bipelines
Hot!

>>59038002
Don't be like that, these aren't RWT forums but there are still some people with knowledge left here.
I'm not expecting a heart-to-heart siting against someone in a chair sipping fine vine, I expect some basic fucking common sense and not literal drooling freaks.

>>59038237
>I expect some basic fucking common sense and not literal drooling freaks.
No, you don't. Remember, /pol/ happened.

>>59038010
> take out out-of-order dynamic scheduling for lower power
> try to rely on compiler-driven scheduling instead
> compilers sucked
> "the ecosystem's fault"

my sides.

>>59037953
/g/ has two kinds of users, ideologists and consumer whores. nothing in between.

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>>59035637
>I hurt my self today...

That's because you don't know what clock speeds are.

Games still love them more than cores.

>>59038260
You think software has advanced enough to make the compiler not a retard nowadays?

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>>59036776
>>59038127
>MFW AMD had to spend time and money preventing Intel from releasing a nuclear reactor into peoples homes.
>AMD is actually a covert global operation to prevent terrorism

>>59038256
>Muh /pol/
HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US, RIGHT BROTHER!?

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>>59038281
>HE WILL NOT DIVIDE US, RIGHT BROTHER!?
What?

>>59038260

Itanium's death as an AMD backed conspiracy that blindsided Intel because AMD were holding back x64 right until Intel went all in with Itanium just to ensure there could be no response. If it wasn't for HP Intel would've suffered badly. This is why you should not support AMD.

>>59038284
These are estimates that don't take clock scaling into account.

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>>59038285
>"WHO IS THIS 4CHAN": The post

It's a dumb meme from January. Where Shia Labeouf started some bullshit and then got ass-blasted on being called out for it by IRL shitposters.

Basically irrelevant now. Just like Shia was and is.

>>59038077
X99 seriously looks fucked. People who want Xeons will get Xeons. Otherwise, most HEDT or workstation users simply don't need quad channel memory or a zillion PCI lanes. They'll just Ryzen being just as good or better at all their workloads for less than half the cost.

Intel will most likely have to discontinue the product line and bring their 6/8/etc CPUs onto the mainstream socket.

>>59038354
>IRL shitposters.
That's cringy. So is Nonon.

>>59038278
look mate there's a threshold for this level of discussion and you're far beneath it

go back to /v/

>>59035920
I didn't know Casey Neistat get plastic surgery on his nose.

>>59038285
ignore anon he thinks every board is /pol/

they don't understand that being louder doesn't mean being more numerous

>>59038002
I've been here since before /pol/ and GamerGate happened and I can confidently say that the quality of discussions has NOT gone down since then. If anything, it's actually gone slightly up.

Also, what's GamerGate got to do with any of this? All it did was rile up the social justice types to further continue their war on games that don't conform to their world view and convinced sites like Kotaku and Polygon to become openly hostile towards a large part of their (now former) readership. Proper tech writing (wouldn't call it journalism) is completely unaffected by this and on 4chan only boards this has had any real effect on have been /v/ and /pol/.

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>>59038284
>Intel promises 15% increased performance
>we get 15% in one bench
>sysmark of all benches
>any real world performance increase is accountable to just MORE GHZ
>Temps go crazy due to higher clock and jew tricks.
KEK
>AMD promises 40% increased performance
>we get over 60%
>more cores with free HT.
>increased power efficiency
Is this another case of 4(3.5) vs 4(8)GB of VRAM?

>>59038368
>IRL posters are cringy
Just let them goof off while they can.
>so is nonon
What do you want me to post then?

>>59038280
It's not a tractable a problem as you might suspect, since there is a lot more non-determinism that a core sees in its memory environment than you'd hope.

Will the data you want be in L1D, and will the TLB entry be in place? If you have a miss, will you need the hardware to walk the page table tree? Will the data be in an adjacent L2D? ...

Better static scheduling and prefetching can get you further, but sometimes you'll be barred from forward progress unless you're willing to start handling things out-of-order and eating the power/size/latency costs there.

>>59038366

A curisoity will be if ryzen supports ECC. Sure the zen architecture does but AMD may reserve it for naples. Then again if if AMD does leave the feature for ryzen I doubty many ryzen motherboards will support it (again, support being reserved for the server boards).

>>59037391
"je ne comprend toujours" doesnt mean "i dont believe" but " i dont understand"

>>59038450
>If anything, it's actually gone slightly up.
Yes, rabid /pol/tards everywhere certainly making discussion better.
>>59038475
Boohoo, it does.
>>59038469
>What do you want me to post then?
Kanbaru.

>>59038475
Got you my friend >>59024805

>>59038487

That still some slow as shit DDR4 on that particular board. Then again the hero is supposed to support 3200mhz and (iirc) one of the msi boards has been touted as 4000mhz.

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>>59038486
>>59038487
WTF DELEET

>>59038424
>>59038285
>>59038256
jesus.

/pol/ is clearly not a pure ally, but you'd have to be an imbecile to think they are completely wrong on everything. forget GaymerGait, look at Brandon Eich and the protracted death of Mozilla.

>>59038525
Yay, Eich fucked off and made shitty Chrome fork.

>>59038486
The only /pol/ack is you. You brought them up out of the blue, and you are apparently obsessed with them. You are worse than a poltard, really.

>>59038486
>Yes, rabid /pol/tards everywhere certainly making discussion better.
If you can't stand them then you probably couldn't stand the shitposting that went on before moot shut down the original /news/ and was later forced to create /pol/ as a containment board for them. We still had racists back then posting the same kind of garbage, we just didn't call them /pol/tards, we just called them regular racist morons and spillover from /news/.

>>59038525
When has pol been wrong, tho?

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>>59038408

>>59038573
The Holocaust. It happened, but /pol/ simply doesn't want to believe it because Nazis didn't do anything wrong in their minds, and yet killing Jews isn't wrong, so...

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>>59038595

>>59038595
Oh it happened. But more like 60k or so. 600k max, and mostly because of Allied bombs and typhus. There was definitely no 6 million.

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>>59038486
One Unknown Waifu, coming up.
>>59038595
>failing for the memes
I bet you run a linux distro other than Ubuntu on an old ass thinkpad,

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>>59037657
>Ice Lake will be the first 10nm CPU on the market
Only because everyone else will have skipped to 7nm by 2019.

>>59038617
More than 6 million people died as a direct result of the Holocaust and the many death camps set up by the Nazis. This is indisputable and undebatable. The facts are there, the paper work from the Nazis are there, the camps themselves are physically there. Now get your white ass back to >>>/pol/

>>59038643
B-but full node shrink, g-goyim.

>>59038595
I loathe /pol/, but while they fall under what people call "holocaust deniers", they don't think that the holocaust didn't actually happen. Instead what they think is merely that the death toll and horrors of it were exaggerated partly because the witnesses were also victims and thus deeply traumatized and the need to make the nazis look as bad as possible for the nurnberg trials.

Some people see these two as being essentially the same thing, but I personally see a pretty major difference between the two...

>>59038643
Its not really possible to compare different manufacturers nodes anymore, friendo. Its all just marketing names now.

>>59038659
>nurnberg trials.
Nuremberg

>>59038675
Gee, I wonder who could be behind this post...

>>59038659
There IS no fucking difference between Holocaust deniers and people downplaying the human impact that the Holocaust had. If you think the Nazis didn't kill as many Jewish people as what's factually and indisputably shown through historical records and eyewitness accounts, then you are the same as the Holocaust deniers.

>>59038653
Who put Zyklon B in your cheerios, Shlomo?

>>59038653
Lel, Im asian, and its highly doubtful the Nazis killed that many. Just not possible.

>>59038685
But that's how it actualy is. Google it.

>>59038699
Death camps were capable of killing and disposing of thousands of people a day. They were operational since the mid-1930s before the start of the war. It's more than fucking probable that the Nazis were able to achieve this death toll over the course of nearly a decade through an industrialized killing camp, let alone several in operation at once.
>asian
Ah yes, the "honorary" whites. Typical that the second most racist people on the planet would side with the first.

>>59038699
Yea, Japs probably killed even more.

>>59038653
Yes this is fact. Over 8 million people died at the hands of adolf and the amazing German engineering that allowed 10 million people to be disappeared in incinerators that could dispose of 10 bodies a second all day everyday for 15 years. Plus the chemical engineering they had that let them convert the cyanide to zyklon and back to cyanide for efficient killing allowing nearly 20 million people to die in a staggering 25 year holocaust

>>59038688
There's a world of difference between just flat out denying a mountain of evidence and actually going trough it and scrutinizing that evidence, accepting part of it and rejecting the rest of it.

This kind of complete colorblindness you and people like you are exhibiting is the reason why we're blighted with Donald Trump as president. All this crap has done is radicalize people and push them away towards people like Trump, who is now in the white house thanks to people like you.

So yeah, thanks a lot mr liberal-only-in-name...

>>59038688
The Soviets killed more that Hitler before the war even started. Much of the Holocaust in the east was really the Soviets, blamed on the Nazis.
Even Goering couldn't believe the 6 million number in the show trials in Nuremberg. "Maybe if they took a few zeros off the end it could be believed."

Oh shit, i just derailed this into literal /pol/ thread.

>>59038744
>see Ryzen thread
>oh near more benchmarks
>open thread
>Death camps were capable of killing and disposing of thousands of people a day....

if you ever needed more proof that Intel is a Jewish conspiracy you're probably already a zionist.

>>59038791
And I fueled the fires

I love being Jewish on 4chan

>>59038653
>This is indisputable and undebatable
Way to destroy any conversation from the start. Real Left sided of you.
>The facts are there, the paper work from the Nazis are there
Documents can be forged
>the camps themselves are physically there
If we could design and build a nuclear bomb in 5 years, I imagine a collective effort could be made to set up some building in a couple of days without being detected.
>Now get your white ass back to >>>/pol/
Racism

Anything is possible, yet you refuse to have a discussion.

You have outed yourself as a closed minded shill.

>>59038796
I hope you kikes get gassed again.

>>59038688
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxbV3RsyQwI

>>59038796
The Holocaust never happened, but it should have.

>>59038744
>They were operational since the mid-1930s before the start of the war
It's a well known fact that despite being in operation since well before the war, they didn't turn into industrial murder machines until towards the end of the war when the nazis felt like they needed to destroy as much of the evidence of their crimes as possible. The original plan was literally to work the people in those camps to death over a longer period as just killing them flat out would have wasted an enormous amount of available slave labor.

>>59038838
>Nazis didn't kill jews in death camps!
>o-o-okay, maybe they did, but they couldn't kill as many because the killing didn't start until the end of the war
You're more spineless than an octopus. No wonder >1% of the population is able to wipe out the whites off the face of the Earth by the end of this decade.

That chip in the benchmark is running below stock speed. That chip will run at 4.0ghz as all the charts everywhere say, faster if you have a good cooler.
You can do the math and figure out where it might land assuming perfect clock scaling, which never happens.
Anyway it won't touch the 7700k at 5.0ghz in games which is what most enthusiast home computers are for. Ryzen is fucking incredible value wise but if the 7700k would serve you better than a 6900k than it will also serve you better than a 1800x

>>59038838
Im sure allied bombs cutting off food supplies to the whole country had nothing to do with it? What about the 10 million innocent German civilians? What about the 90 million other victims? Why is it always the minority jews?

>>59038864
Wow, racist much?

>>59036284
I figure they have the stock clock speeds low to hit TDP targets. People who overclock don't care as much about power usage, and I'm sure the chips will clock fairly high. Intel chips already run well above TDP when overclocked, so this should not be a surprise to anyone.

why do you fags never post the sources for these

>>59038900
>g*rmans dindu nuffin
Not this shit again.

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>>59038864
Wow, way to use your color privilege to fight the patriarchy on the internet

XI WILL NOT DIVIDE US, RIGHT APACHE?!

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>>59037058
yes! it's just a random picture goyim!

>>59036475
http://thanhnien.vn/thoi-su/uoc-mo-cua-cau-be-khong-co-mat-785879.html
looks like he's doing relatively ok these days...

>>59037058
JETFUEL

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>>59039113
CAN'T MELT

>>59039100
shitpost with me anon

>>59038982
If Communism hadn't of killed millions, Hitler wouldn't have happened.

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>>59039125
STEEL MEMES

>>59038982
/g/ has been hopelessly infected with /pol/ since gamergate at least

fuck it, I want the coinshills back

>>59039137
>actual g*rman apologist
The fuck? G*rmans are worse than c*mmies.

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>>59039142
>"I'm hacking the FBI"
surely that wasn't the actual line, right anon?

>>59039150
They are. They started something, then failed to finish it.

>>59039149
>fuck it, I want the coinshills back
Never though i'd miss the likes of inelite.

>>59039149
>I want the coinshills back
Sorry, we're on >>>/biz/ and >>>/lgbt/ now

Arnt these multi-game benchmarks a little broken... besides testing something old as X3:TC probably has god awful multicore capability and favours intel heavily.

>>59039150
Commies killed more than Hitler before the war. Fact.

>>59039149
Say /pol/ 3 times and they appear. You did this.

>>59039166
Really shitty charactor design on this liw tier waifu

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>>59039180
SHHHHHHHHH GOYIM
IGNORE AMD
BUY INTEL
REMEMBER THE 6 GORILLION!
>>>59039198
>Shitting on character I don't even know about
I'm okay with this.
Got any better ideas?

>games like an i5
>does work like skylake-e
Perfect for me.

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>>59039166
It was. /g/ encouraged me to watch it, and once the line came up I was not disappoint and could not stop laughing.

>>59039193
>You did this.
spoken like a true piece of human garbage

examine your life

>>59035755
>these are the stock speeds
Not him but the OP lists 3.15GHz as the base clock, which has so far only been seen on engineering samples. Those are not a finished product.

BAN ANIME

>mfw Zen is Bloomfield all over again
kek, a decade too late

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>>59039246
>I'm hacking the FBI
>just the whole FBI
>all of it
What is it called. I've stopped being able to genuinely enjoy anything since I can see twists and plot-points a mile out, but I still like making fun of misguided garbage.

>>59039266
>trying to take a stand on a Genghis Khan Equestrian forum
>a technological board none the less
Examine your life.

>>59039313
BAN GENTOO

>>59036187
>>Fusion BTFO
Did you miss the bit where Intel needed eDRAM to beat APUs? Comparing like products, Intel has never, ever been able to hold a candle to an AMD IGP. This gap will not get any better once Raven Ridge hits the market.

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>>59039336
Mr Robot, though that line is in the second season. it's a pretty good show desu.

>>59039266
GOD I HATE POLTARDS
POLACKS NEED TO GO BACK TO /POL/
DRUMPF TARDS ARE SO STUPID
WHEN WILL /POL/ LEAVE /G/
THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED, /POL/TARDS
>maybe 6 million weren't killed ?
KILL YOURSELF GO BACK TO /POL/ OMFG!!!

You did this.

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Too spooky...

>>59039382
Your caps lock settles it 26 million really did die!

Why aren't Intel fags happy? Do they not realize they'll get 6 core 12 thread entry level i7 for $350 next year?
>no more 2011 good goy socket
>4 core Intels will become i3 and sell for $150
>i5 will become 4c/8t
Literally everyone wins except for kikes at Intel.

>>59039461
This is a blue board. Go back to >>>/pol/

>>59036149
Thread should have ended here. This board is fucking retarded

>>59039461
2066 socket is coming out this year and will feature the fastest quad-core Kaby Lake and the usual Skylake 6+cores.
I would rather buy a much faster dual core with hyperthreading than four weaker cores at much lower clocks
i5s are perfect the way they are

>>59039521
Good goy. But Intel™ cores.

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>>59039423
>Mr Robot
>zen_keller
SHIT
WRECKER
>>59039367
Thanks
>In September 2015, Amazon.com acquired exclusive streaming VOD rights to Mr. Robot in several countries, with the first season becoming available to stream in June 2016 for U.S. Amazon Prime subscribers.
>exclusive streaming VOD rights
>available to stream in June 2016 for U.S. Amazon Prime subscribers.

Look's like it's time to sail the seven seas.

>>59039461
>Do they not realize they'll get 6 core 12 thread entry level i7 for $350
Which will be outdone in both single core performance and multi-threaded by a similar Ryzen 5 1500 for 250 USD
(Ryzen 5 2500 for 250. It's memorable no?)
>4 core Intel's will become i3 and sell for $150
Even for an Intel shill, that's pretty optimistic

>>59039509
But then I wouldn't get to shitpost.

>>59039521
>Paying 100% more for a theoretical 10% improvement
Back to >>>/pol/, retard

>>59039504
>>59039568
Calm down with muh /pol/, numale.

>>59035637
As soon as Ryzen and its benchamrks come out, I'll buy whatever gives me the best gaming performance for 250€, regardless it's from Intel or AMD.
But I seriously hope, for AMD's sake, that new games will use those extra cores.

>>59039679
You must be clinically diagnosed if you consider buying 4 cores instead of 6 with more cache that are 5% slower per core.

>Wow I'm not gonna have 144FPS anymore but 139?!

>>59039726
What are those extra cores going to do for me if games don't use them?

>>59039736
Literally nothing

>>59039736
Games do use them, just not all of them.
In games that do use them you'll make that 4 core look like a joke.
Anyhow even your browser uses those cores.

>>59039736
Faster Gentoo compilation :^)

>>59039736
As a 6600k owner, don't. Just buy an i7 or Ryzen. 4 cores is over.

>>59039736
Some use them and if you plan on keeping it for more than 2-3 years, more and more games will start utilizing them.

>>59039749
I'm on a old E8400 and my browser works just fine. If not for gayming, I would keep this 9 years old PC.

>>59039787
>4 cores is over
What makes you say that? Are you encountering issues with running games?

>>59039787
Don't listen to these fags games only use 1-2 cores max if I could buy a i3 at 6.0GHz I would

>>59039804
Wasn't that the same thing AMD shills said when the FX8320/50 came out?

>>59039819
Yes
Really makes you think...

>>59039804
They already do now.
>>59039806
Cities: skyline hammers the fuck out of mine
Plenty of games benefit from HT also.
With an i5, you really can only do one thing at a time on your computer. Severely limited by what I can do because of it. I

>>59035637
comparing overclocked intel cpus with standard clock amd

-10/10

not even trying kid

>>59039867
Assuming Ryzen gives only SLIGHTLY worse performance on single thread/core, and much better performance on games that use more cores, then I'll consider buying it.

To be honest, I'm usually rooting for the underdog, and I think Intel should have its jimmies rustled for once.

>>59039925
>for once
Dude K8 lmao.