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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

Before asking for help, please check our list of resources[*].

Previous thread: >>59003623

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or Mac.
3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What's the alternative for x?
https://alternativeto.net
http://www.linuxalt.com
Search for software by category:
http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

News:
http://phoronix.com
http://www.webupd8.org
https://www.linuxjournal.com
https://lwn.net
Gaming news:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com
https://linuxgameconsortium.com

/t/'s GNU/Linux Games: >>>/t/749768
/t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos: >>>/t/713097

* Resources:
Your friendly neighborhood search engine
(try to use a search engine that respects your privacy such as searx, ixquick or startpage)
$ man <insert command here>
$ info <insert command here>
$ <insert command here> --help
Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos <anything>

Check the Wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros)
https://wiki.archlinux.org
https://wiki.gentoo.org

Learn the command line:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php

Break out of the botnet:
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

Learn more about Free Software:
https://www.gnu.org

/g/'s Wiki on GNU/Linux:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

/fglt/'s website:
http://fglt.nl

/fglt/'s copypasta collection:
https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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First for source mage
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Second for Source Mage
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this thread is off to a really bad start
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>>59018239
install source mage
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>>59018239
the next thread should be made a 280 just for good measure.
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Source Mage ∞
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>>59019046
>>59018286
>>59018186
>>59017929
Forced Meme
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Not as annoying as the bsd shills.
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>linux kernel
>stallman

please
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>>59019241
well it's GPL. anyway, I couldn't find a nice kernel map picture for the Hurd.
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>>59019385
There is literally nothing in hurd to map
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Recommended Twitter client? Preferably one that doesn't require a ton of dependencies (ie Choqok with KDE libs)
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>hardware requires I8042 Serial module
>module not available for my architecture
>web search brings up threads from early 2000's that are absolutely useless
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What dns do you guys use? My IPS's are shit so I was thinking about switching to OpenNIC
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>>59020149
Setup DNSSEC+DNSCRYPT and use one of their dns'
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>>59019397
there you go then I guess
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>>59017764
shidd, I forgot to fix the moustache. THIS should be the final version of the OP pic unless someone wants to make the fonts look nicer.
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>>59019066
you wish ;^)
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>>59017764
I will destroy all the winkids with my brain, Linux makes you smarter.
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Any sound wizards here?

I'm having an issue where any time I have sound playing from multiple sources/programs, output from the first program stops.

Ex: mpd/ncmpcpp playing some music, I'll open up a browser tab for YouTube and start watching something. The YT video won't start until I stop ncmpcpp and restart the browser. Or, in reverse, I can start watching a YT video but then I get no sound from mpd/ncmpcpp.

It's like this with other programs that use sound too. Been Googling this shit for an hour, can't figure it out.
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>>59021016
setup dmix properly or use pulseaudio
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>>59021016
use pulseaudio. Install pavucontrol for a great control UI.
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>>59021048
>>59021101

I had JACKd (for a DAW), pulseaudio, and alsa installed before. Just tried removing everything and then reinstalling only pulseaudio - same issue.
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>>59021199
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pulseaudio
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Fucking linus can't even make a compiler
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Is Solus a meme distro, or is it usable? I like that they are doing something different, but it's not enough for me to switch.

Currently I'm on Ubuntu and just do uni stuff, plus some ocasional WoW with my RX 480.
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>>59021101
His problem is most likely because pulseaudio is installed.

>>59021199
Install pavucontrol, then restart your computer if necessary.
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>>59021503
Try it, should have a live ISO
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>>59021557

I was honestly thinking more on the long run, desu senpai.
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Reminder than the word "freetard" was forced by trolls suspected to be paid by Microsoft.
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>>59021665
No, it is used to describe people who are blinded by the foul vomit stallman spews out,who blindly belive in "oughts" instead of being constructive.
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Sup

I'm not savvy at all on loonix or even permissions

The thing is, I was asked to change permissions for a folder so groups could only read and write. Thing is, how's that gonna help? Don't users from a group need execution rights to access said folder anyways?
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>>59021928
no
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>>59021665
Everyone knows it. Steve Balmer's quote "Linux is communism" is a popular one too.

Ignore micros**t shills. First they attack GNU, then they attack Linux. They are (un)paid micros**t online campaigners
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>>59021961
That's so weird. I would understand how it works for files, but not folders.
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>>59021783
t. microdick sucker
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So I'm setting up NextCloud, and what I'd like to do is have the data directory be my Samba share. I've edited fstab so that it mounts it at startup to /mnt/data, but where I'm getting stuck is I need it to be writable by www-data, and I can't change ownership or permissions of the mount-point.

Wat do?
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>>59022402
Have you set to write in fstab? Maybe try to add yourself to the www-data group and make everything editable by the group. I don't want to say use UID but definitely check it if you see more problems.
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>>59022402
Depending on the filesystem, you have to mount it like 'mount -o group=www-data'
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>>59022564
How does that work with the username and password for the share, though? Right now it says:

//ip-of-server/files /mnt/data cifs user=owner,password=hunter2,user 0 0

Where do I put www-data in there?
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>>59022600
Try
//ip-of-server/files /mnt/data cifs user=owner,password=hunter2,user,gid=www-data 0 0

'man mount.cifs' for more mount options.
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Why is there an NSA in my Linux?
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>>59022850
why are you not using the superior ncurses-based menu?
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>>59022910
It was kinda easier to look at the menuconfig interface, although now I see the nconfig menu is actually better.
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>>59022910
Wow, never used this.
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>>59023016
anyway, the literally just released mainline 4.10 if you are interested.
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>>59023016
>>59022910
>>59022850
>nsa
couldn't they intentionally include bugs in order to abuse them later?
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>>59023173
Use TempleOS to protect yourself against NSA and CIA-niggers.
http://templeos.org/
CIA must surrender to the IRA. They started a war on God. You die, CIA niggers.

The CIA picked a fight with the IRA and God, a War on Terror to humiliate the
Irish and attack the concept of God as represented by pathetic loser sand
niggers. Surrender, silly CIA niggers. Yer fucked. You started a war with
God. He talks.

Saying the word, "pedophile", is an attack on Catholics and God, by those who
hate children.

We're not stupid. You are. God exists. Yer fucked, CIA niggers.
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>>59023173
yeah, in the same way they can do that with any other component of the kernel. The latter would be convenient because it wouldn't ruin their own work (a security agency is usually involved in both espionage and "counter-espionage").
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Don't really have much time for /g/ these days (new job, plus family) but I just came to let you know GNOME Builder now has complete rust support, it's hitting the stable brunch soon.

KDevelop is still working on getting the Rust Language Server but currently has experimental support for rustc2duchain.
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Is there any good voice changer software for Linux? I want to do some voice chat that won't make it easy to identify who I am.
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>>59023168
fuck your shit, motif ftw
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>>59023522
meant for >>59023355
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>>59023505
bet audacity can do that
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Hello /guys!
I'm currently rewriting my bash script to dash/POSIX syntax.
I was using $MACHTYPE variable, and I am intrested only in last part of it (-gnu)
In dash there is no $MACHTYPE, so where I can get this data? I need to know which standard C library is actually used by system.
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Hypothetically if someone was zeroing out their hard drive with a usb and dban thought there was a partition on the harddrive and selected sda/sdb partition but it turned out the sdb is the usb port did it just nuke the flash stick with a bunch of passes and fuck the life span on the stick?
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>>59023603
Realtime voice changing? I don't think so.
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>>59023650
Yes it nuked the flash stick and no if it's just a couple passes it isn't instantly reduced
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>>59023505
>>59023659
sox can http://askubuntu.com/questions/421947/is-there-a-way-to-modulate-my-voice-on-the-fly
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>>59023650
at least its not an sdcard.
i have a 64G micro SD that is frozen. when you delet files or copy new ones, the files disappear/appear until the card is reinserted.
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>>59023638
>[Post a Reply]
Help!
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>>59023718
sox looks like it works, but it doesn't seem to have a real scrambler effect.
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>>59023691
>Oh look at the pretty light flashing on the stick it must be working!
It was 7 passes

Why would it take 6 hours to make 7 writes over 7.20gb but it completed 48gb on the hard drive. It's a SATA drive but the flash ram should work in the same principal for writing? I don't under why the stick would be so much slower. Does it have to do with the USB port connection?
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I'm trying to set up a dualboot with Linux and Windows 7 (activated via a loader), but it's just not working.

Windows + loader = Windows boots and is activated.
Windows + Linux = Windows boots but is unactivated.
Windows + loader + Linux = Linux boots and works normally, Windows has an entry in Grub but it won't boot and tells me I need to use the installation media to repair the installation.

What on Earth could be causing this? Does anyone have any ideas?

Additional info: I have used this Windows installation media + loader probably a dozen times or more before now to set up a dualboot with Linux and it has always worked without issue. I have tried several different distros and they all break Windows when activated via the loader. Using the loader before or after installing Linux makes no difference. I am doing absolutely nothing differently this time compared to the previous times.
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This is probably a retarded question, but I've got to ask.
My laptop has an SSD (for the OS) and a HDD, and the HDD spins up every time I open the lid.
Can I stop it from doing that?
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>>59024068
You can try to enable the "power-on in standby" feature:
 hdparm -s 1 /dev/sdX 

(read the manual first)
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>>59023914
Oh did I say sata, I meant SSD maybe this is why you're not suppose to start drinking at 4am
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>>59024357
Kill yourself, you worthless piece of shit.
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>>59023914
Usually with shitty nand chips you'll get slow speeds, basically if they are cheap chink USBs they'll be pretty slow even if they have USB3.0
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>>59024542
I'm not sure it's either produced in france or brazil.

It typically writes and reads very quickly.

Unless the processor is just being taxed from trying to write both at once while assigning random #'s(which really shouldn't be that difficult for it) I can't really think of a reason why it'd be so slow going unless it had something to do with the physical connection.
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>>59024038

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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holy shit sox is fucking amazing
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>>59025481
What a fucking fag
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>>59025522
no u
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>>59025481
canonical tries even harder, following the "open source"-hack; it does not only avoid the term gnu, but also the term linux in order to archive things like
>compatible with Windows, OS X and Ubuntu
I guess that's also the reason why pic related exists: canonical pushing micrsoft, microsoft pushing canonical

tl;dr
>it's just Ubuntu
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>>59025977
>reeeeeee

Without Ubuntu, GNU/Linux wouldn't have the market share it has today.
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>>59025977
>it's just Ubuntu
will never happen
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>>59026071
Already happens, check steam, only Ubuntu is supported, not GNU/Linux or Linux or *nix or butterflies.
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anyone using ack instead of grep? seems to be the new shit https://beyondgrep.com/
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All I want to do is uninstall the shitty built-in firewall so I can use my edge router's much better one. Why the hell does it want me to uninstall my DE along with it?
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>>59026240
Cause thats how apt works and welcome to dep hell!
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>>59026240

because you're a fag and should just use whatever the hell it came with
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>>59026240
did you install it manually or did it come as part of the de? if so, mark it manually installed
>>59026255
ur stupid
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>>59026172
looks like something people sitting at starbucks in front of a mac would use while running zsh
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>>59026280
Came with Ubuntu MATE.
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>>59024038
Just use Linux and install Windows 7 on a VM.
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>>59026321
can't you just deactivate it and forget about it?
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>>59026255
>dep hell
Only exists because people fuck around with apt and later wonder why it fucks up.
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>>59026326
GNU/Linux*
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>>59026172
Ag (a.k.a. the siver searcher) is supposed to be an improvement over ack https://geoff.greer.fm/ag/
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>>59026331
I tried. It keeps coming back on. I just want to open up 5222 but it won't fucking let me. I just want Ubuntu open everything up and let my router handle it.
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>>59026240
MATE has ufw as dependency. Mark as manually installed and remove it. Also, why do you want to remove it? If you can't handle apt, I don't think that you can manage iptables.
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>>59026352
>gnu terminology
proof that stallman is nothing but a gloryhound.

yeah, it's a buntu thing. the bunt is designed not only to be idiot proof but to protect idiots from themselves, this is often times frustrating for people who know what they're about and want to do their own thing.
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>>59026352
eat shit Stallman
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>>59026403
>>59026404
read the thread title and get out
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>>59026413
fuck you, it was just fine as flt till you gnutards started your fucking crusade
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what's wrong with systemd?
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>>59026426
fuck off troll
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>>59026370
Is anything even listening on that port via TCP?
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>>59026413
I can use linux without gnu and still post in this thread, because there is a bigger part of being with linux then with gnu, gnu is easily replaceable

Fuck off and eat stallmans toe jam
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>>59026403
>>59026404
>>59026426
>>59026430
no
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>>59026438
>disagree with gnu glory grabbing
>must be a troll
ok kid
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>>59026440
Openfire should be. The service is running and I can get to the server.
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Do not feed the trolls, thanks!
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To all anti-GNU trolls, systemd apologists, BSD shills, eat dick.
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>>59026483
>someone has a differing opinion then me, he must be a troll

Toppest of KEKS my fellow anonymous
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I have fedora installed on my laptop.
How do I create a bootable usb?
I have tried using the terminal and the usb creators on the software center, nothing seems to work...
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>>59026483
>>59026484
>denying that you and your fellows literally perpetrated a holy war on flt until only fglt was left by creating duplicate threads and reporting flt threads
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4.10
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1
0
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>>59026502
No need to hate freedom, gnu or rms just because you're mad that someone interjected you, retard.
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>>59026326
My computer isn't great. Games would run like total shit on a VM.

Actually, I tried to install Windows 7 on a VM in the past and it simply wouldn't work for whatever reason. The installer just kept sticking at a certain point and would never go any further no matter how long I left it.

Anyway, does nobody have any idea what could be causing this? Do you think installing Windows on a seperate hard drive to Linux would work? I don't have a spare hard drive so it would mean deleting a lot of stuff if I wanted to try it, hence I don't really want to do it without being fairly confident that it would actually work.
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>>59026449
actually it is linux that is easily replacable
most of the shit you can run on GNU/Linux (including the GNU userland) you can also run on any other *nix
Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is proof enough
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>>59026484
I don't use BSD or systemNSA. But GNU communists need to leave.
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>>59026547
>linux is replaceable
how's hurd
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>>59026547
Tell me bout that HURD.
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>>59026566
>>59026569
how's busybox?
I heard cat has a lot of features
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>>59026607
kek
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>>59026508
I'm giving UNetbootin a shot
I will never expose myself to fedora ever again
holy shit the fucking name should have been a warning
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>>59026607
it's more usable than hurd
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>>59026607
Wouldnt know i use malloc
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>>59026461
Try
ss -nat | grep 8143

Does anything show?
If not, do
nc -lp 5222

in another window
check again with nmap and ss
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>>59026566
>>59026569
>>59026624
who mentioned hurd?
did you even read >>59026547
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>>59026535
Idk family. I would have dual-booted with W7 but I had the opposite problem: it worked fine in a VM for my workload but it refused to install bare metal style on my hard drive.
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>>59026508
dd if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdX


doesn't get more simple than that
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>>59026686
Why wouldnt you run the GNU HURD KERNEL with the GNU USERLAND?
Seems like they would go well together seeing how they are from the same development team and company...oh wait
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>>59026686
>implying any and every nix os is gnu based
ok friend
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Browse the internet like stallmanu https://github.com/isdampe/Stallman.js/tree/master
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>>59026711
nobody ever claimed that
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>>59026661
My bad, obviously replace 8143 with 5222
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>>59026607
>I heard cat has a lot of features
dammit

$ busybox cat --help
BusyBox opt multi-call binary.

Usage: cat [FILE]...

Concatenate FILEs and print them to stdout
$ cat --help
Usage: cat [OPTION]... [FILE]...
Concatenate FILE(s), or standard input, to standard output.

-A, --show-all equivalent to -vET
-b, --number-nonblank number nonempty output lines, overrides -n
-e equivalent to -vE
-E, --show-ends display $ at end of each line
-n, --number number all output lines
-s, --squeeze-blank suppress repeated empty output lines
-t equivalent to -vT
-T, --show-tabs display TAB characters as ^I
-u (ignored)
-v, --show-nonprinting use ^ and M- notation, except for LFD and TAB
--help display this help and exit
--version output version information and exit

With no FILE, or when FILE is -, read standard input.

Examples:
cat f - g Output f's contents, then standard input, then g's contents.
cat Copy standard input to standard output.

Report cat bugs to [email protected]
GNU coreutils home page: <http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/>
General help using GNU software: <http://www.gnu.org/gethelp/>
For complete documentation, run: info coreutils 'cat invocation'
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>>59026734
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>>59026721
nice backpedal bruh
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>they fear the Hurd
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>>59026734
cat /dev/null > /dev/sda

Very great feature
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Just give up trolls.
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this thread needs more Source Mage
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>>59026759
>>59026773
27 years of development and they just got sound support in the year 2016!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>59026779
don't make me dispel you
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>>59026779
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install source mage
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>>59026779
how can i remove the white background with gimp?
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Did you install Source Mage today like you promised, /fglt/?
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>>59026823
I'm.. not sure
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Why aren't you running Source Mage GNU/Linux, /fglt/?
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>>59026856
I dont use meme os's that are out of date, much like gnu hurd
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>>59026865
>outdated
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>>59026893
Check your magic repo's, the majority of popular software is out of date, including most DE/WM's
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>>59026902
install source mage
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>>59026902
and if you had the mana in you, you'de be able to compile/make a spell oout of anything you need straight from github
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>>59026920
Trying to force a meme this hard
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>>59026823
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>>59026937
Whats the point of having an "bleeding edge" distro when your fucking repos are out of date multiple versions?
Whats the point of have a repo at all if you arent going to maintain it?

source mage TRAAAAAAASSSSHH
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>>59026951
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so much butthurt tbhfam
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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?
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>>59026693
What am I doing wrong here?
sudo dd if=/home/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb
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>>59027002
Source Mage GNU/Linux
>>
>>59027002
Source Mage GNU/Linux᠎
>>
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>>59027002
Take a guess.
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>>59027002
Source Mage GNU/Linux᠎᠎
>>
>>59027002
Source Mage GNU/Linux᠎᠎᠎
>>
>>59027003
what error is it returning?
>>
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>>59027039
Source Mage GNU/Linux᠎᠎᠎᠎?
>>
>>59027089
It's telling me
dd: failed to open '/home/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso/': No such file or directory

I have no clue why... the iso file is literally there
>>
Installing source mage first thing tomorrow
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>>59027111
congrats you are correct!
>>
>>59027111
>tfw no qt SMGL gf
why live
>>
>>59027117
>/home/Downloads/
Should be
>/home/anon/Downloads/
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>>59027148
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>>59026893
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>>59027213
nice
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I'm using i3 (on smgl of course). How do i make every steam game open in a certain workspace?
>>
>>59026240
If you want to remove a package which is part of a meta-package, you need to mark it as manually installed.
aptitude unmarkauto ufw
apt-mark manual ufw
also issuing apt-get install ufw will mark the package as manually installed.
>>
>>59027438
>having to use work arounds for basic package management
kek
>>
>>59027463
Those aren't workarounds. Learn what meta-packages are.
>>
STOP SHILLING SOURCE MAGE YOU FUCKING NIGGERS
>>
>>59027473
I have them on my os.
I dont have to do anything more then issue the removal command for said program, and the meta package does not get pulled it
aka
proper package management
>>
>>59027474
>>>/b/
>>
>>59026240
basically every DE that isn't XFCE, LXDE or KDE is irrepairably bloated, with a cancerous amount of dependencies
>>
>>59027474
ayyy lmao
>>
>>59027486
I don't get your point. Help?
>>
>>59027519
If i wanted to remove ufw, i would just tell my package manager to remove ufw,and when i do that, it dosent pull in the meta or group package and want to uninstall 99% of my packages, like what apt is doing here
>>
>>59027536
What apt is doing here is informing the user about the fact that ufw is part of mates meta-package. It does so, because apt was configured that way by Canonical. You can just change apts configuration and it acts in the same way like your package manager.
>>
>>59027633
So you have to make configuration changes to make it act like every other package manager, so it performs basic task properly?
Yeah totally not apts fault
>>
>>59027641
That's what you get when you use a shitty ootb derviant. It's not an apt problem.
>>
>>59027661
Clearly it is, he is using apt and this is what apt did.
>>
>>59027723
never use analogies
they lead to hell
>>
I'm on Arch, btw.
>>
>>59027761
install source mage
>>59027676
>issues autoremove instead of remove
>wonders why it automativally removes packages
wew
>>
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https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

>13 YEARS OLD, STILL UNFIXED
Why are the Gtk developers such retards?
>b-but we need a cross platform solution
NO YOU FUCKING DON'T, JUST SHELL OUT TO THE NATIVE ONE ON WIN32 AND OSX AND USE A GODDAMNED *NIX NATIVE SOLUTION FOR GTK PROPER
>>
>>59027761
found the normie
>>
https://github.com/aleksandar-todorovic/awesome-linux
>>
>>59028014
There are patches which supply this functionality
>>
>>59028052
>no void

kys
>>
>>59028083
Not for Gtk3, which Firefox is switching to.
>>
>>59028185
gtk3 has no relevant use,its just bloat
>>
>>59028207
It has one significantly important use: Wayland. Gtk2 has been dead for years and will never get Wayland support.
>>
>>59028223
Wayland is meme and useless
You're just going to use xwayland anyhow.
>>
Hello, /g/

If I apt-get install hello
I get the typical "Hello, world!" response
How can I open the hello package and edit it?
>>
>have problem
>google problem
>1 result
>exact same problem as me, both of us can't get the usual suggestions to work
>''nvm i fixed it :)'' at the bottom
>>
>>59028406
>mfw have had several obscure problems
>managed to work them out
>posted for help on leddit and filled in my post with details of how I solved it
>a few weeks later use script to delete all my comments and then delete my accounts

:^)
>>
https://github.com/jlevy/the-art-of-command-line
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>>59028246
unlike arch (which is a bloated piece of crap) when you install a package with apt you get only the binary, you need to download the source and build it, read man apt-get
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>>59028406
>google
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Why every online training course promotes Red Hat linux?
>>
>>59028755
a) people shilling it
b) people who fell for people shilling it
>>
>>59028872
So red hat aren't getting anything from people using it in their training course?
>>
https://github.com/k4m4/terminals-are-sexy
>>
>>59028719
Yeah, I did google my question before posting and I already got what you said

But there isn't anything super clear on how to do it
>>
What's the choice for creating a multi-distribution live image from a Linux distribution? Something like Yumi, but for Linux.
>>
>>59029478
GNU/Linux*
>>
Just discovered this: http://linuxbrew.sh/

> Can install software to a home directory and so does not require sudo
> Install software not packaged by the native distribution
> Install up-to-date versions of software when the native distribution is old

Thoughts?
>>
>>59029478
Seconding that.
I've looked around and all I found was thing that assumed you know enough to create it yourself.
>>59029640
How does it work with distro that doesn't have root users?
>>
I'm installing Gentoo for fun. Does using genkernel still make me a true /g/entooman? I tried manually selecting modules but that didn't go over so well.
>>
>>59029640

If you have to install software outside of your package manager, at least use serious solutions like Flatpack or Snaps.

>>59029661

I found a guide to do it manually, but it's specific for every distribution (the final step).
Right now I found something called MultiBootUSB and it seems to work.
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>>59029640
But why?
i just do'make' and copy the binary to ~/.bin
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>>59029688
yes
>>
>>59024038
So nobody has any ideas at all?

Well, that makes me feel a bit better about not being able to figure it out myself.
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Nobody move! My Gentoo is arm'd!
>*badum tss*
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>>59031488
ARM is the future imho.
>>
>>59024038
>>59030836

>format hard drive, clear partition table, create 2 partitions (from gparted for example)
>install windows 7
>turn off that user control shit, use daz loader (verified hash sum, but still very shady, just like windows in general)
>reboot
>install linux
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>>59031892
That's what I've been doing.
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>>59029008

What a bunch of random shit thrown together.

>fish addons listed under zsh
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>>59031911

What are you using to activate Windows? I would verify the integrity of your Windows installation medium (ISO) and the loader.
I don't feel good offering advice on how to use proprietary software. Can't you ask on the Windows support forums why it's not working?
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>>59031958
>What are you using to activate Windows? I would verify the integrity of your Windows installation medium (ISO) and the loader.
The daz loader you mentioned. And there shouldn't be any problems with it or the ISO. Like I say, I've used them before and they both work. They both still work perfectly fine together, up until the point I install Linux, then the loader mysteriously breaks.

>Can't you ask on the Windows support forums why it's not working?
They're not going to help a pirate get their activation crack working.
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>>59032006
>>59031958
I just checked the md5sum of the loader anyway and it's correct.
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New content on /t/ >>>/t/757680
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Did someone say.....year of the GNU/Linux desktop?
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Is there some script or something that I can use to monitor the uptime of my servers?
>>
>>59032354
year of the systemd deskto[
>>
Which one are people supposed to use: cdrtools or dvdrtools (Arch package names)? They provide the same binaries, but apparently don't conflict in the Arch packages. Is that normal?

I just looked it up and it's a mess license wise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cdrtools
>>
>4.10 kernel came out last night
>Arch Linux still on 4.9
Nice """""""""bleeding edge""""""""""" distro you got here faggots!
>>
>>59032429
>not uisng NEXT
why cant you into bleeding edge?
>>
>>59027399
RTFM
https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html 4.16
>>
how i make weechat not look like doodoo
>>
>>59032417
>Which one are people supposed to use: cdrtools or dvdrtools (Arch package names)?
dvdrtools is a fork of cdrtools born from some random drama IIRC, simply use the one that works better for you or is better supported and documented.

>They provide the same binaries, but apparently don't conflict in the Arch packages. Is that normal?
no, open a bug report
>>
>>59033149
By switching to HexChat instead.

But seriously though, what specifically do you refer to as doodoo?
Personally I had to do
weechat.bar.title.color_bg = 237
weechat.bar.status.color_bg = 237

Also make sure your term identifies itself as 256-color capable or it will invariably look like shit.
>>
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>>59032417
>>59033199
>but apparently don't conflict
They does, look better.
>>
I have to say, using Yum to install things is A E S T H E T I C. I don't think I can ever go back to apt-get. And it doesn't even need an apt-cache alternative because yum already supports searching
>>
>>59033280
>yum

stop using an out of date OS

dnf is yums successor.
>>
>>59033268
>They does, look better.
do*
>>
>>59033268

pacman -Si dvdrtools
Conflicts With : cdrkit


pacman -Si cdrtools
Provides : cdrkit
Conflicts With : cdrkit


My bad. They don't conflict directly, but by providing "cdrkit".
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>>59033334
I'm using the latest version of Fedora.
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I just accidentally my whole ~/music directory.

Now I want to make rm ask for confirmation, but if I just alias rm to "rm -i", it will ask me to confirm for each file, which would be a pain in the ass if I were removing a lot of files.

I just want to be asked to confirm once when I issue the rm command, no matter how many arguments I pass or if it's recursive.
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>>59033716
Ask the Gitlab devs
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>>59033716
Looks like the -I option is what you are looking for.
>>
KDE Neon isn't offering torrent downloads for their ISOs. What a joke.
>>
>>59033752
I'm an idiot, thanks.
I'll RTFM next time.
>>
Would these
alias cp="cp -r"
alias rm="rm -r"

be considered bad?

It seems to me that using -r in all cases would not make any difference.
I don't see the pint in extra typing.
>>
>>59033716

Make your music directory and files read only.
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>>59033980
it's not that they are bad, you just lose an extra safety that prevents you from recursively deleting directories.
>>
>>59034030
How about these?
alias cp="cp -rv"
alias rm="rm -rIv"

The -v flag would also be useful.
>>
>>59026621
You only need a program like like that if you're on windows or something and trying to make a boot usb.

I tried out rufus and unetbootin some of them pick up files the other doesn't support, but it shouldn't be necessary on fedora.

You can download it from the command line like the other anon was saying
>>
>>59034089
looks better. Note that is some circumstances (i.e. deleting tons of stuff and using a slow terminal, like a tty console) the verbose flag can slow down thing noticeably.
>>
>>59032384
man uptime
>>
>>59033716
don't alias dangerous tools like rm; your brain will expect it to behave like on your own system on all other systems
suggestions:
del
gtfo
trash
>>
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Don't you love it to, when it happens.
>>
>>59034857
what happened O.o
>>
>>59035059
Happens when you accidently a binary to stdout (and hold ^C in order to stop the spam).
>>
How's Antergos? Been trying Xubuntu and I like it, but since I'm a masochist I wanna progress to something funkier.
>>
Can someone ecplain why this works
wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c <(wpa_passphrase waifai password)

I know that
wpa_passphrase waifai password

prints this text to stdout
network={
ssid="waifai"
#psk="password"
psk="some long string that 4chan thinks is spam"
}

What I don't get the " <( ... ) " part.
I know it's some kind of redirection, but I don't know how it works or how to google it.
When I try to use " <(echo anything)", "/dev/fd/63" always appears.
When I try
echo <(cat file)

the output is
/dev/fd/63
>>
>>59035301
it's shite
>>
>>59035301

You don't even know what makes up a distribution and you have this pretentious mindset that it's something you progress into. It's not and judging by your post it's not even worth explaining to you why.

>>59035456

Bash process substitution.
>>
>>59035301
>but since I'm a masochist
You're a retard not a masochist friend
>>
>>59035878
>pretentious mindset
How so? I'm relatively new to linux and I wanna mess around with different distributions and see how each one feels.
>>
>>59035932

What's the "feel" you're thinking about?
>>
>>59035941
Probably DE and package management, since these are the only distinguishing features of distros (other than perhaps community).
>>
>>59035941
Workflow, different package managers, control over how the distro is installed. I dunno. Like I said, I'm pretty new to Linux as a whole. I want to use the terminal more, and I had some issues getting a different DE up and running with XUbuntu. Heard Antergos is basically Arch with a neat installer and some safeties so it doesn't break, so I thought it'd be interesting to experiment with.
>>
>>59035456
wpa_passphrase output goes directly into the command instead of needing to create a new file and instruct wpa_supplicant to read that file (it would be e.g. -cwpastring.txt). thanks for that find btw, I didnt know that could be done.
>>
>>59036036
>Workflow
How do you expect workflow of Xubuntu to be different from Antergos with Xfce?

>I want to use the terminal more, and I had some issues getting a different DE up and running with XUbunt
So you have troubles with running apt-get on a Ubuntu installation but installing Arch with an installer and copy-pasting commands to the terminal will somehow turn you into a unix wizard?

> Heard Antergos is basically Arch with a neat installer and some safeties so it doesn't break, so I thought it'd be interesting to experiment with.
Antergos is Arch. It breaks. Period.


You clearly have no fucking clue what you're doing.

There's nothing that stops you from using the terminal on Xubuntu.
Protip: Running screenfetch is not "using the terminal"
>>
>>59036087
Sorry for asking, I guess. Christ. It's not about being a Unix wizard, dude. I just want to try different things out. Ubuntu's a fine OS, but I want to try others out.
>>
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So much BSD shilling. Suddenly you see a lot of idiots with stickers but none can run BSDshit.

Just pay attention, they are pushing the meme even in Linux shows.
>>
>>59036128
Not the malcontent you're currently engaged with, but:
If you want to know how various distros 'feel', just spin up a vm and try them yourself. Asking for opinions is a waste of time and just invites bitching. Many people are sick of this, which is probably why you got the reaction you did.
>>
>>59036128
>I just want to try different things out.
Then fucking try them you drooling assfaggot and stop asking whether you should.
You're absolutely fucking free to do whatever you wish with your belongings and that includes installing a shitty knockoff of an already shitty distribution of a sub-par foss operating system running on a kernel of rather poor quality.
>>
>>59036296
Oh, so I said the A-word and that's why you're chimping out.
>>
>>59036340
>A-word
???
>>
>>59036087

>it breaks
Way to make everything you say irrelevant.
>>
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I'm considering installing Peppermint in a flash drive to take it on the run. Could you give me an opinion or advice about it?
>>
>>59036723
sucks schlongs
>>
>>59036723
>Peppermint OS is a Lubuntu-based Linux distribution
Why use this over Lubuntu itself? I'm asking seriously -- what advantage does it confer?
>>
Microsoft is doubling down on FUD shills and shitposters, they're scared of Linux and that It'll destroy them.
>>
>>59036538
t. mom cancel my meetings pacman fucked up my xorg.conf again
>>
Is anyone using KDE Neon?
Are the KDE packages the only thing they source from a repository outside of Ubuntu's? I'm trying to find precise information about this, but nothing is on the website. How do they release the KDE updates? Are they fixed or a rolling release as they get released?
>>
>>59037169
>How do they release the KDE updates? Are they fixed or a rolling release as they get released?
they release the new version of any kde software as soon as they pull it out. So it's basically rolling release but only for kde software.
>>
How do you defend stallman being a hillcuck?
>>
>>59035456
searx "bash file descriptors"
>>
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>>59037536
I am a hilldawg too.

Enjoy your jewish government for the next 4 years drumpftard.
She's next.
>>
>>59037673
>4 years
he's started his 2020 campaign though
>>
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>>59037673
It's all the same shit really, either way we're going to be tyrannized by corporatism.

At least with big T we're going to have guns.
>>
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>>59037727
And what's his slogan?
>drain the swamp, this time for real
?
kek.

i didn't even vote for him and I feel bad for every drooling hick that voted for the orange manbaby with 90% of relatives being jewish because they believed he's the second hitler
>>
>>59037816
>drain the swamp, this time for real
if he "drains the swamp" then refills it. he could run on that slogan again and i'm sure his supporters would still vote for him
>>
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>tfw dead hdd on fstab and I didn't update it
Fuck me, is there a way to not get this fucked over if I don't have a live image at hand?
>>
>>59038457
does your boot loader drop you to a repair shell? or just kernel panic?
try passing root=/dev/sdxX in bootloader
>>
>>59038392
>>59037816
Oh man, /pol/ wasn't kidding about /g/ being the new safespace cuckhole.
>>
>>59038537
Yeah buddy, you should go back to r/thedonald.
Otherwise your manchild feefees might get hurt. We treat our safespace cuckhole seriously.
>>
>>59038537
Install Source Mage GNU/Linux.
>>
>>59038910
Nah my arch install is fine thank you though

>wait mom Xorg broke again
>>
I can't get bluetooth to work on my eOS (based on ubuntu 16.04).

Can any anon lend me a hand, I'm pretty new to loonix.

adrian@adrian-Laptop:~$ dmesg | grep Bluetooth
[ 15.024867] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.21
[ 15.024877] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[ 15.024879] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[ 15.024880] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[ 15.024883] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[ 15.093431] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: chip id 70
[ 15.109436] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM43142A
[ 15.109439] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM (001.001.011) build 0000
[ 15.175600] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM.hcd not found
[ 17.178524] Bluetooth: hci0 command 0x1003 tx timeout
[ 20.470388] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[ 20.470390] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[ 20.470393] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[ 68.253365] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[ 68.253373] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[ 68.253376] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
>>
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>>59038991
>eOS
>>
>>59037536
He's extremely intelligent. You wouldn't really expect him to support Trump, would you.
>>
>>59039121
Ron Paul maybe?
>>
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>>59039141
No. Bernie Sanders. He never supported Hillary, even after she stole the nomination. He advocated voting for Jill Stein instead. Stay mad, you liberbrainlet.
>>
>>59036723
what's the point of that distro?
>>
>>59039189
red theme'd mint?
>>
>>59039203
I know you're being sarcastic, but it made me rage even more when I realized that this is probably true and whoever created that distro sees it differently
>>
New thread:
>>59039312
>>59039312
>>59039312
Thread posts: 310
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