/pcbg/ - PC Building General

So should I wait for zen? Was just gonna get an i5 and 1070 kind of sick of waiting.

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>>58960042
Personally I'd say yes, because you will be able to get almost 4c / 8t i7 performance at the cost of a current i5, and with the AM4 socket you will have an insane upgrade path. Undoubtedly higher clocked models (better single core performance) will arrive for the socket and you'll be able to upgrade to a future 8c / 16t CPU if you wanted to.

Of course everyone is still waiting on gaming benchmarks, so there is a chance that Ryzen won't perform as well as hoped.

One caveat is that Ryzen doesn't have a graphics component, so troubleshooting can be more difficult and there's no fallback if your gfx card dies. The 4c / 8t Ryzen APUs might be amazing if you want that graphics component for whatever reason, like in a GNU/Linux GPU passthrough setup.

Why the fuck is my GPU so wobbly?
I didn't screw it in yet but is it normal for it to wobble?

It fitted really tight in the last mother(board)

>>58960042
just wait 13 more days for the first benchmarks to find out if its worth it or not.

>>58960174
May not be fully inserted

>>58960174
Screw it in then dummy.

I'm waiting for ryzen to build a pc but I stucked with a problem. I want a build that render alot and I need a setup to setup up to 10-12 displays. I think I might need to use 2-3 gpu on crossfire but Idk which setup. Is 2 rx 470 on CF can render more than 1 rx480?


What are my options?

Guys I have a problem.

The utility (asrock extreme tuner) that came with my mobo (asrock extreme 3 gen 3) reports that under load my i5 2500k temp is at like 95 Celsius. This is at stock clock too and I'm using the stock cooler. I've recently overclocked to 3.7GHz from 3.3GHz and it reads the same.

I check with speedfan and it reports around 72 Celsius instead.

What do?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zD3Zjc
what do you think?

>>58960366
It was already doing 3.7 boost speeds so you didn't overclock anything. The lower reading is most likely the accurate one but check in a third program like hwmonitor to be sure. If you actually want to overclock replace that stock cooler asap.

>>58960308
Most rendering is CPU based right? So figure out which program you're going to use and see what that program uses. For displays you don't need high power gfx cards.

>>58960381
It's fine, kinda weak. Unless you know the games you're playing favor Nvidia get the 4GB 470. 3GB is a bare minimum for a non esports build. If I had to build now I'd get the G4560 with an upgrade to an i7 in mind. i5s are significantly overpriced with the upcoming Ryzen release

>>58960536
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sXPVZ8
the motherbord has chaged

>>58960544
No reason to get an H170. Better options than H110 are B150 or Z170.

Consider a Kaby Lake CPU with a B250+2400MHz RAM

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Almost there.

6700K
Maximus VIII Z170
EVGA gtx 1080
4x4gb of DDR4 2400 RAM
Cooler master Hyper 212 evo

Not pretty, but it has a lot of room for upgrades when the money is available. Just waiting on an SSD to install my OS to and it'll be finished.

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I've got a Corsair 300R case for my rig, but I lost the accessories and I need some screws for another front fan.
Anyone here know the specifics for what kinda screw this is? I see people selling 'Corsair Hydro compatible' screws but I dunno if that's just for any old corsair fan etc.
Also if I know what kinda screw it is, I can avoid getting cucked, price-wise.

>>58960599
>Not pretty, but it has a lot of room for upgrades when the money is available.
Not sure what you mean by this, but you're already at the top. If you're concerned about money you made a bad purchase though

>Note: Win7 and 8.1 cannot be installed on a 200 series chipset

Does that mean I can't install win7 onto this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128982 ?

Can someone rec me a good motherboard for a 1151-socket win7 gaming mini-itx build? I want ac wifi built in, two gigabit NICs are a strong plus, and I don't need overclocking at all.

how'd i do? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KMjpWX
mainly used for gaymen and occasional photoshop/vegas

>>58960652

There's a bit of room to grow.
>7700K
>SLI
>4x8gb RAM
>280mm liquid cooler
>NVME M.2

It's nice, but it's not quite at the top.

>>58960656
Just get 100 series and skylake, there's no benefit to getting 200/kaby.

>>58960366
Speedfan Shows you the northbridge. It can handle the heat.

Have you used speccy?

>>58960678
You can get a 650w power supply, otherwise it looks good.

>>58960573
>friendly reminder that higher clocker ram is a meme for Desktop-pc Users and should only be bought if it's the same price as lower clocked models

>>58960706
it's already built

>>58960656
>Does that mean I can't install win7 onto this
Correct. You want a 100 series chipset, like Z170.

>>58960678
Get 3000MHz RAM and a lower wattage PSU

>>58960683
No one in his right mind would "upgrade" to any of that

>>58960731

That's good for them.

>>58960685
>there's no benefit to getting 200/kaby.
Shut up, retard. Better turbo boost and better native RAM support beg to differ

>>58960713
If you're not gaming, yeah it's not worth it. But 2400 is almost always the same price as 2133 so why not?

If you're gaming it's definitely worth it.

>>58960685

Ok, is this one good then?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128847

>>58960731
>>58960725
is there that big of a difference between 3000mhz and 2666mhz? prob gonna upgrade the ram in a few months but it's pretty comfy atm

>>58960725
We'll you didn't say that

When will the gtx 20 series come? I have a decent gpu for temporary use (rx 470) but I don't want to buy current generation. I want to get a gtx 2070 when it comes out hopefully this year. I might go for Vega if it is good.

>>58960759
Benchmarks with 1333/1600/2133/2400 Show literally no difference.
The ram will not bottleneck anything.
But I get where you're coming from.
I wouldn't cheap out on 5-10bucks difference too

>>58960805
How can you tell something will bottleneck?

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>>58960770
Yes. Don't forget that you need to pair it with a Skylake CPU or get a preflashed board.

>>58960788
Pic related. Not worth it if you already have a large enough capacity. Upgrading RAM is pointless unless you need more because you're limited by the speed of the first kit

>>58960805
Wrong, see >>58960836

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>>58960828
As an example

Is theee an advice list on the programs to install on brand new system and tips for customization?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/WxpGtJ

I've never owned an AOC monitor. How are they? They're not low quality budget are they?

It's literally the only 1080p@144Hz monitor with Gsync I can find in Australia. The price is also decent.

>>58960873
I'm sure you could google it and find something.

Personally I just install TinyWall as windows firewall helper and CommonSense2017 as antivirus. VLC/MPC as well

Ctrl+Shift+Esc, Startup tab, disable almost everything

>>58959936
>using Zbrush with a FX6300/HD 7790
Oh I want to kill myself but I don't have money for a gun.

As for Zbrush, is it heavier on the CPU side or the GPU side? I'm planning to save money and upgrade my pc with Ryzen meme but I'm not sure if I should focus more on the CPU. I also use 3Ds Max and I render, sometimes.

Can someone recommend some tall mini-itx cases?

I'm looking for something that's approximately the size and shape of an xbox, tall and skinny is great, those chode shaped cases are absolutely unacceptable to me. The goal is for the pc to fit in to an under-tv entertainment console.

So far I'm looking at the "SilverStone RAVEN RVZ01B" and "SilverStone Milo Series ML07B" . Any other cases I should be looking at?

>>58960932
What you want is not an ITX case, it's HTCP. Fractal Design Node 202 and SilverStone cases are pretty much all there is.

>>58960536
So I can buy a rx480 for games and 1 or 2 cheap rx460 for the extra monitors?

>>58961295
Yes if you're displaying at 1080p. If you want to duplicate the output the game on all monitors I'm not sure what you need

>>58960875

Get the Asus PG248Q instead. It should only be $100 more, and not as hard to find.

It has better image quality, is built better, and you can overclock to 160-180Hz.

>>58961367
The 10 monitors arent for gaming but for a special use like displaying 10 diffrents contents (video) simultaneously and beeing able to control them from 1 keyboard and mouse. Also for rendering videos and doing 3D rendering isnt the gpu have some parts to play?

My mobo only has 2 fan headers. I want 3 of those meme Noctua NF-A14s, plus my 2 built in case fans. Can one fan go on a high amp fan header?
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/gdTP6h

>>58960573
B150 or H110?

is it safe to buy evga 1070s now

>>58961741
Do you need more than 2 ram slots and 4 sata ports?

Anybody have that old 'LED color guide' chart with the temperature differences and whatnot?

>>58961557
Spend less on meme fans and more on a cooler that can actually cope with that CPU. Hyper 212 is garbage.

>>58961741
microATX B150

>>58961773
Not garbage. Plenty for an Intel CPU

>>58961860
You can basically get a NH-D15 for the price of those 2 fans ontop of your 212 so he is right that's youre retarded.

>>58961755
well im thinking getting sound card

>>58961919
>CPU cooler = Case fans
Yeah nah
He still needs case fans in addition to the CPU cooler. Getting a better cooler does not negate the need for case fans.

You're the retarded on here. My post didn't say anything about the case fans, just that the 212 isn't garbage.

>>58962015
>case fans
literal meme, if you have 2 case fans which most cases come with are plenty and that cpu cooler will do way more than any case fan ever will.

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>>58959936
>building

>>58961747

>>58962023

this

case fans are for literal autists

>>58962027
Update your memes

MAKE IT MARCH ALREADY !!!

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YHLPhq

>>58962015
212 was never good and it isn't capable of handling even a mild overclock on kaby lake chips.
Case fans do almost nothing for temps compared to a good CPU cooler, as long as you have basic airflow as provided by the fans that come with your case, you're good.
Of course it is nice to have even better all-around cooling and those fans are a nice upgrade later on, but do not skimp on a good cooler for them.

>>58962200
The 212 can handle 125W easily. The fuck are you talking about?

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I want a non-windowed ATX case with 240mm radiator support for less than $60. Is the 270R my best choice?

>>58962239
Kaby lake runs hot, you can easily get 90c under load at 4.5+ GHz with a 212.
These are facts m8. Don't know why you're trying to argue with it. It's a low end cooler and isn't up to the task.

>>58961747
>>58962027

no

>>58961557
Fags you say 212 evo is bad but you dont recommend shit

>>58962509
I already told you dumb faggot, drop the fans and get a NHD15

Best mATX case for a build that will have a 1070? Good airflow, no gaymen aesthetic.

Good cpu coolers that will fit? Cryorig h7?

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>>58962543
Alright thanks goyim

>>58962571
Stop being retarded. We're all consumer cucks here.

>>58962650
So am I. I wasnt even the one complaining that Evo was gud

>>58962566
Corsair 350D
NH-D15S

Vegaaaaaaaaa whennnnnnnnnn

>>58962687
When you stop being an insufferable faggot.
I won't be holding my breath.

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Which one?

>>58962662
It's not bad, in fact it's good. It's retarded however to spend over 100$ on a cooling solution and get an evo.

>>58963017
Cheapskate: Gigabyte Windforce OC
Memefag: MSI Gaming X
Autism: Asus TURBO AUTISM 1080

>>58963136
isn't there some turbo autism one with a small loop and a 120mm rad?

>>58963152
What do you mean? Small loop... do you mean the Seahawk?
https://www.msi.com/Graphics-card/GeForce-GTX-1080-SEA-HAWK-X.html#hero-overview

>>58963232
that thing yes

>>58963280
Yeah.. that thing is distilled turbo autism with an extra pinch of concentrated cancer.

What do you guys think about M.2 ssd's?

/r/amd makes my sides go into orbit

>SHOULD I UPGRADE ?? 4790K + 980Ti

>Former intel fanboy here..

>Support AMD? Yes. Do you owe them anything? No.

>Redesigned the ryzen logo !!

>Found this gem in the closet...

>Just curious, why do you prefer AMD?

>>58963421
neat but I figured out the improvements would be minor and I already have a 1tb sata ssd so it's not really worth it. The bump from even a sata ssd to a pcie one is minor when comparing a hdd to an ssd. Most things are instant already and the things that takes 2-3 seconds will still take a second to complete so the gains are minor.

>>58963421

cool af and great for mini itx builds.

>>58963440
>>58963455
WHich is more reliable?

>Week or so ago
>AMD says they're going to release Windows 7 drivers for Ryzen
>Great I've been needing to upgrade
>Go ahead and order an SSD and DDR4 memory since I'm on a DDR2 (Core 2 Duo) board using a POS 5400rpm drive.
>Few days later
>AMD says that lol no, they're not actually releasing the Windows 7 drivers, Windows 10 only
JUST

>>58963507
So fucking move on to 10 then? Seriously do you really want to be one of "those" people?

Any ITX motherboards which can embrace NGFF M.2 MZNTE128HMGR-000SO?

>>58963017

I'd go the Gigabyte G1.


>>58963136
>Memefag

Elaborate?

>>58963533
>Elaborate?
>MSI

>>58963507
>buying parts in advance
for what purpose, prices only ever go down. Anything you buy now that you're not going to use in the immediate future is a waste of money.

>>58963570

okay so you're just a retard

Whenever I turn my PC off, sometimes my mouse's LED will cycle, meaning there's power to it. It's a new motherboard/CPU, and I've never changed any power settings.

I have a GIGABYTE GA-Z270-HD3, and an i5-7600K.

>>58963583
>prices only ever go down
No they don't look at the RAM prices, they have fucking skyrocketed.

>>58963629
>t. autistic kid
Welcome to 4chan.org and now fuck off.

>>58963650
A lot of motherboards provide constant power to certain usb ports so you can charge your phone or whatever on them. Check BIOS settings to turn it off if it bothers you.

>>58963650

Its all broken

RMA everything

shit happens nothing you can do

>>58963583
It's not that far out since they're being released at the start of March.

I might just try running 7 anyway, fuck this shit.

>>58960759
2400mhz ram for the cheap-ass budget boards is nice and all
The motherboard has nothing to do with the stock boost speeds though
Basically just ram speed which only applies to the low-end motherboards

>>58963693

>muh WINDOWS 7 OR NOTHING

You're an idiot mate

>>58960828
If the hardware isn't able to fully utilize the other hardware, it's bottlenecked
Games no not bottleneck hardware, they utilize hardware.
People max put their GPU trying to play 4K 120fps games and then get pissed when they see that their CPU has more room to work, that's not bottlenecking, that's just using hardware
You know CPU benchmarks don't "bottleneck" the GPU right?

>>58963651
>No they don't look at the RAM prices, they have fucking skyrocketed.
That's an unfortunate combination of things that happened in the recent past. You shouldn't bank on such things happening.

>>58962015
This
4.8GHz 1.35v 6600k, never even hits 80° during stress tests
Sure the hyper 212 is about as weak as it comes, but still it's more than enough for skylake/kabylake

>>58962311
>90° at STOCK clock speeds on better-than-stock aftermarket cooler
I mean other than the fact that Im posting this from the proof that youre wrong, please continue your argument

>>58962566
N200
$20 dollars after rebate
All the sensible design choices, none of the fluff

>>58963748
>never even hits 80° during stress tests
Unless you're very fortunate, I'm not familiar with kaby lake voltages you should try running intel burn test and burn that chip to the ground with a proper stresstest.

>>58963717
There is no proof that any of the measures that supposedly disable telemetry and other spying in Windows 10 actually work. It's well known that even with all of the privacy options built into the OS switched on it still makes hundreds of calls to Microsoft every hour, meanwhile the third party programs that disable it are not proven to work (some appear to do absolutely nothing post anniversary update). If I'm wrong I'd love to know, or you could just respond with the

>/g/ doesn't even know how to disable a basic service

line that I've been seeing in every thread where someone criticizes W10.

>>58963421
You mean NVME?
SATA M2's are actually worse than SATA 2.5" drives, you can fit more into a giant 2.5" aluminum heatsink case than you can fit on a bare gumstick next to the two hottest parts of your pc

>>58963748
6600K is skylake not kaby, and getting close to 80 is not okay.

>>58963796
Alright go run 10 passes of IBT and post your max temps.
You fell for a shitty meme, sorry m8.

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>>58963825
I said 6600k you assuming dipshit
And I did use intel burn test along with aida64
1.34 volts
Idles at 30°
Here's some normal akylake voltages and clocks btw, most of these are on good watercoolers but the point is there's plenty of room to safely play with voltage

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https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/67cTVY

it's time

>>58963900
>building this now
>when Ryzen is around the corner
Truly a good goy.

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>>58963914

>AMD

>>58963874
I mean my 7700k is overclocked to 4.7 (stock voltage) and I don't even reach 90°
But I mean whatever it takes to convince yourself not to buy something...

>>58963894
>Here's some normal akylake voltages and clocks btw, most of these are on good watercoolers but the point is there's plenty of room to safely play with voltage
Are you retarded? The fact that they're on water means nothing, as the picture shows you're just lucky. You could be cucked at 4,6 with water.

>>58963935
I could also move up half the graph in voltage and still manage heat
Sorry you spent $60 on a CPU cooler, but they hyper 212 is more than enough

>>58963927
>t. intel shill

>>58963958
I mean if he hasn't heard of ryzen, then it's perfectly understandable that he knows amd is complete worthless garbage
The thing is ryzen looks like it'll change that

>>58963955
Clock speed barely means anything when it comes to heat, voltage under load is what matters.

>>58963955
I'm sorry you spend 60$ on casefans that don't do shit.

>>58963978
Sure, and I went from the normal 1.295v setting up to 1.3 (which is generally considered high), then up to 1.35, and have no heat problems using my hyper 212 whatsoever.
I'm just saying people who won't go above 1.35 will be fine with a hyper 212, and considering I have thermal room to spare, in sure you could go slightly higher and still be fine

>>58963996
Actually I'm someone else, I didn't fall for the $25/fan poo meme.
I fell for the $12/fan corsair meme, and yeah they don't do much ("airflow" fans are a meme), but they're far quiter than my included case fans

>>58964017
1.195v or something I think stock

>>58960366

>mfw used multiple other programs and they all showed 90+ degrees Celsius.
>mfw open up computer and see dried up thermal compound
>mfw clean up and apply new compound
>go from 60 degree idle to 35 degree idle.
>tfw have been running my baby at 90 degree temperature for months... maybe even a year

JUST.....

>>58964017
And I'm saying you're just lucky you can get 4,8ghz on a 212, I'm not even saying it's a bad cooler because it isn't. It is however retarded to spend 100$ on fans and a cooler and get a 212.

>>58964056

I'm down to 60-70 degrees on load now

Gimme case recommendations, pcbg. I've got a micro atx motherboard, but I'm fine with an ATX supporting case as well. My max spending would be about $120 usd. Air cooling, and the system build is quite modest.

>>58963438
leddit is a cesspool of brand fanboyisms that fail to realise that a healthy competition between brands and a good attitude in the community is better for everyone. You dare to say that and they'll bury your post with downvotes and cry in a corner until they've forgotten about it.

>>58963974

yeah it won't

>>58960042
I'm holding out on my upgrade from an FX 4300 to see how well Zen suits my needs, it's too cheap to not consider it

>>58960042

just get an i7

>>58959936
Just finished a build but my OS disk isn't here yet. Could take 10 days or more. Anyone know where I can buy cheap W10 pro or enterprise keys?

skylake or kaby lake?

>>58964383

ryzen

>>58964383
Cannonlake.

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What's the consensus of this GPU?

I want it for its size.

>>58964437
Standard 1070 version with generic dual fan layout. The only argument for this card is the price if you can get it cheap.

>>58964437
>size
>the most normal GPU design possible

>>58960174
Screw it in. If you still have problems, push it to the PCIe with some more force.

Should I use 2 monitors or invest in a wide screen?

>>58959936
I have a problem with my new computer.

It has an SSD and a 1TB HD, with the OS installed on the SSD, it booted fine etc and I'm in Windows, but for some reason my bios can't see the SSD, but Windows can, but Windows isn't displaying the HDD? It says it's installed property in device manager etc but it isn't appearing in 'This PC'.

It does actually appear in the bios, both of them do, but only one is in the boot order list, then the opposite one is not being seen by Windows.

What did they mean by this? How do I even get started on troubleshooting this?

>>58964437

it's a great card if you don't plan on overclocking too hard.

>>58964546
Almost all 1070's overclock to the same general area of 2.1-2.2GHz

>>58964484
>>58964437

I hear it overheats a lot.

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>Bought an i5-6600k
>Can't overclock it
>Realize afterwards that the mobo I bought with it has a B150 chipset

Recommend me a decent board for overclocking, please. Budget is $120, though cheaper is preferred. Also needs at least 6 USB ports, with at least two being 3.0.

>>58964706
>Realize afterwards that the mobo I bought with it has a B150 chipset
Lol you're a retard.

>>58964706
I recommend Z170 like you should've got in the first place

Is there a rule of thumb for how much to ask for a used custom PC? individual part prices on eBay?

here's my build for reference/curiosity. I'm aware it's not worth what PCP says it is. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Kfd9XH

>>58964905
I'd give you bout tree fiddy

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WyFgKZ

What memes did I fall for?
Might wait for Ryzen and change motherboard and cpu if it's good.

Is there any excuse not to go ITX in current year? Any?

>>58963697
>The motherboard has nothing to do with the stock boost speeds though
Not true. The mobo means the difference between single core max turbo and multicore max turbo.

Hey anons, I built my PC early December and everything was fine until I turned it on yesterday. Everything turned on, except it wouldnt post. The EZ Debug LED on my mobo for CPU lit up, but no pins are bent. I had this problem when I first built my PC, but plugging it into a wall socket fixed it. I have tried everything, changing RAM slots, loosining up my CPU cooler, resetting CMOS, but nothing. My specs are

MSI Z170A Krait Gaming X

Intel i5 Skylake

Cooler Master Hyper 212X

Gigabyte GTX 1060 Windforce OC

EVGA 600 Watt Bronze PSU

Deepcool Tesseract Case

>>58965125
>Bronze PSU

>>58965147
Hey dude, I wanted a 1070 but couldn't afford that. Money is tight right now.

>>58965125
Sorry, I mean Krait Gaming 3X

I need a way to get the most cpu performance possible. I dont need anything but the ability to connect to network, run lubuntu or a lightweight linux, and lots of cpu power
I've been trying to find some used servers or something on ebay, looking specifically at like dual e5630 models, but none are really in my price range. Hopefully id like to buy a used desktop or server of some kind for around 20-30 bucks, you guys have any ideas? I'd be down to buy used hardware and slap it together too. I know that's a low price, but even just buying some shitty used desktop for the right price would be fine

>>58965038
I use more than one pci-e expansion card, and dont want to have to build more than one computer
itx is great for like 90% of people, m-atx is good for like 99.99%.

>>58964915
you actually saying its worth 350 or are you just memeing. no idea how to arrive at a number, other than it being less than what I paid.

>>58964514
Go to disk management

>>58965018
Need 3000MHz RAM
GTX1070 at most
1440p 144Hz Gsync monitor

If you can't afford the monitor get a 1060

>>58964905
Plug the CPU and gfx card into ebay and check completed listings.

>>58964383
Kaby

>>58964079
>I'm saying you're just lucky you can get 4,8ghz on a 212
No he's not. Nothing wrong with a 212

Should I install larger 500GB SSDs on all my gaming test benches (~7), or is it worth it to buy 10Gb fiber NICs and SFP+ connectors and put a single 1TB SSD in a NAS?

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Buying this now because my pc needs a severe upgrade (pic related). Will using it for BD playback, chinese image board browsing, and EVE online. After roughly a year I will be retiring it into a NAS/Plex server to stream high quality BD rips to up to 2 or 3 devices at one time.

Looking to spend as little as possible but I need a new case, monitor, keyboard and mouse as I am moving from a laptop to a desktop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vn7Wjc

>>58965125

>bronze psu

I'm so sorry

might as well RMA everything

>>58965317
What do you think about the newly elected president Obama?

>>58965348
>>58965147
wait, what is wrong with a Bronze PSU? I never knew there was a difference...

>>58965355
You have no idea how please I am with this laptop lasting as long as it has. It still runs pretty good for the most part too. The only thing I can complain about is scvhost.exe memory leaking on Windows 7 but if I end the task twice in a row it doesn't act up for a few days.

I'm not entirely sure what else I'm going to get, but I need a little advice.

Found a listing somewhere, I can get two Titan X Maxwells (12gb ea) sli for $1300. I can also get an Acer z35 for $600. Is this a good deal? What motherboard should I get? How much ram would I need? I'll be using it mainly for machine learning.

>>58965390
btw jokes aside, what's the situation with BD playback on windows these days? Last time I checked there weren't any really viable solutions for it.

>>58965371

they're trolling you idiot

jesus christ /g/ really is full of 14 year olds

stop posting for awhile dude

>>58965421
I wouldn't know I don't have a BD player. I can't imagine it being much more difficult than the proper software and having a BD player installed.

>>58965455
From what I've seen that's not the case, something to do with BD standards changing and no software really keeping up with it. Doesn't help that next to no one owns a PC BD drive in the first place.

>>58965450
Sorry, never been on /pcbg/

I still have no answer tho

>>58965481

they're efficiency ratings

do you even know what google is?

>>58965465
All I planned to do was just rip them to my hard drive and play them back through a smart tv/roku/fire stick hosted by my Plex server

>>58964706

lol moron

>>58965503
Oh alright, that would be no issue then. I thought you meant using a media player for them.

Gigabyte Gaming 1

MSI Gaming X

Which is better?

>>58965540
Do you know if the specs on my url would suffice for what I intend to do? This is my first time trying to build a NAS/Plex server and from what I've read I think this will be fine for my needs.

>>58965546

they're the same

pick the one you think has the cooled led's

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/g/ I NEED HELP

I just built a PC but when I turn it on, it turns off a few seconds later and then back on again I have no idea what I did wrong

>>58965584
Dat molex tho

>>58965584
here we fuckin go

>>58965584
Quality bait

>>58965584
>no cable management
>cable go godknowswhere
>ASRock
>molex molester
>t. tech illiterate autist who should have bought a prebuild
I honestly hope it explodes in your face.

>>58965626
>>58965623
>>58965597
>B-Build your own computer!
Stop meming please.

>>58964364
https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/
$32

>>58964364
I sell them for $20 anon
>>58965753
Get better sources faggot

>>58965781
If yours is better than mine prove it

>>58965786
Nice try, pajeet.

Processor core i 7 4790K
1tb hard drive
Solid disc 140 gb
GeForce® GTX MSI 1050 Ti Gaming 4G Video Card
Ram 8GB
No reader
Can I use a 430w thermaltake power supply ?, I am not sure help please

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>>58965584
>high end cpu cooler
>quality cable management
>using molex, the highest point of wiring technology in this digital age
>bronze psu has most superior quality
>no ram is gud ram
My sides are wider than pluto's orbit around the sun

>>58965821
>Can I use a 430w thermaltake power supply ?
Use a fucking online power supply calculator you mongrel.

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>>58965797
>i sell for low price
>no pajeet i will not give you sauce
Try not to jew so hard

>>58965584

kys and never come back here

How much do you guys think it would cost for a repair dude to fix a mobo cpu pin and do cable management?

>>58965828
I can cable manage when I get the thing working. What's the fucking point of a well managed set of wires if the computer doesn't even work?

I got an after market cooler and only using 8g of RAM.

The only fucking thing I'm trying g to do is get it to fucking work. I will agree these bronze EVGA are the worst advice /g/ ever gave me.

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this is someone's idea of a joke right?

>>58964364
Install gentoo

>>58965876

try it with one stick of ram, closest to the cpu

>>58965881
Sauce

>>58965876
I dont see any fucking ram on there.

You better rma that shit if you cant find out by tomorrow

>>58965890
Guy that DID have this problem but is now >>58965125
I tried that and nothing. What I did was plug it into a wall socket.

>>58965781
Anon ill bite. Planning on building in April. How do i buy

>>58965893
Can't find it now
It was there before though so either:
>someone was the absolute madman and bought it
>the seller took it down

>>58965890
I just tried It didn't work.

>>58965971
Try shoving your dick into the ram slot and then turn it on. Post results

>>58965786
>>58965925
>>58964364
>>58965753
>>58965860

Heres my email. Tell me what you want and I'll give you a quote.

[email protected]

>>58965999
nice trips\

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So i'm looking to upgrade my GPU to something that could handle modern games in 1080 and be able to stream/record for gaming. My power is 500W i believe and my current GPU is a 7850. Am I going to need to upgrade anything else in my PC for it to be compatible with everything? Also could use help with changing GPU's as i've never done that before. Willing to switch over to Nvidia as i've heard they are much better than AMD recently.

Hey /pcbg/, I want to upgrade my shit prebuilt pc from a good 5 years ago. Right now it has:
>i3-2100
>H61 motherboard
>4GB RAM
>1TB 7200 RPM HDD
>300W PSU
>iGPU
>microatx case
>stock cooler that works well either way
budget of $600
I'm leaning between 3 builds:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VgxsPs - best build option currently. best GPU out of the 3, has a new PSU included, and I can upgrade to a Z77 motherboard later to OC the 2500k.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CwfvvV - has an i7, which makes it good by default, and can upgrade to a Z77 motherboard later for OCing. otherwise average.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rG4nM8 - babby lake, so faster than older stuff, DDR4 RAM, but have to get a lot of new things I wouldn't get otherwise like a new motherboard and fan. also can't get a better PSU as that doesn't fit into the budget.

>>58965999
Look for viktor.

>>58965584

Hey I remember you.

>>58966095

If you emailed me, I will.

If you're being a troll,

>>58965557
Seems fine to me, but you'll probably be getting a 2nd HDD before you know it if this is going to be a media server

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>>58966111
Nice trips 2 times in a row
And no, because

>>58966111
>>58965999
Trips of truth have chosen him both times. The trips believe he is not a scammer, and so should we.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Lt2mRG

been sitting on this list for a month, how'd I do?

>>58966155
Not a scammer. Just good sources. Been in the game 7 years.

>>58966130
Got it.

Trips ftw

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p73yZ8
well updated my list

>>58959936
Got a noob m.2 drive question. First time using one so I'm double checking this stuff. I got a Samsung 960 Evo m.2 drive for Christmas. I was going to put it in a Gigabyte GA-Z270X-Gaming 7 mobo.

In the specs it mentions this:
"Dual Ultra-Fast M.2 with PCIe Gen3 x4"

Will 4 PCI-E lanes be enough for the 960 Evo? Or should I look for a x16 M.2 adapter?

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>>58966165
plus the case

>>58966258
>>58966165
shit fucked up

Going to get a new machine. Is 1300 for two Titan X maxwell 12gb (24 total) worth it? Is 600 for an Acer z35 worth it? Any advice?

>>58966283
Alright nigger, listen up
M.2 on Z97/X99 is almost always PCIe 2.0 2x
Z170/270 and high-end X99 motherboards have "Ultra" M.2 slots, or the full PCIe 3.0 4x

>>58966258
Get a better power supply just in case you want to add more stuff to it. Also having a bit higher wattage is useful for efficciency

>>58966283
M.2 connectors only use 4 pci lanes
4x is capable of 4GB/s transfer speeds which is more than enough

>>58966350
>>58966373

Thanks for clearing this up guys! You rock!

>>58966378
I rock even more than he does.

Recommend me an AiO for i7-7700K. Otherwise ill stick to meme Noctua NH-D15

>>58966545
No more than $125 please

>>58966545
>paying for a 0.2 GHz overclock

>>58966538
no fuck you

>>58966707
>replying to a post he obviously doesnt like without explaining why

>>58966744
Kaby Lake brings literally nothing new to the table

https://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,97129

>>58964437
> heart touching
aww

>>58966808

except hyperthreading

>>58964437

I would spend the extra money on at least a Windforce over these.

>>58965212
what do you need cpu for? i ask because maybe you could use a gpu instead. put an alert on craigslist in the "Free" section and the electronics section. normies will offload their old pc for nearly free just to get rid of it without paying a electronic recycling tax (here in CA). Also, businesses tend to upgrade their pcs all at once, and will dump tens of nice, solid computers like dell workstations. go to real life auctions. you may have to sit through some stupid crap, but occasionally you can buy a lot of pc parts for like $20 if there are no other techies there.
> get a job in IT
seriously. i got so much hardware by working summer jobs doing tech support shit for colleges and stuff. didnt even have to steal it, they always have cupboards full of old shit they keep meaning to throw out and will give to you if you ask. eventually you'll have big rubbermaids full of expansion cards and oddball cables and have to purge it all.

Incoming blog
>fire up fresh build
>no screen
>Expensive mobo is telling me it can't initialize my expensive CPU
Fuck

>tear it all down
>reinstall CPU
>put it back together
>plug it in
>fires right up

Fuck yeah

>tfw a fresh build lights up like a christmas tree

Should I be worried about having a monitor delivered cross-state? Never ordered a monitor in this fashion before, and I'm paranoid about man-handling.

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Memed on a babby Lake with upgraded build today

Loving the h115i gettin 21c on idle.

The in win 303 was an interesting case to build in.

>>58966937
Hyper threading has been around for years
Are you thinking of speed shift?

>>58967165

I'm drunk tho

>>58965371
Nothing is wrong with bronze. Bronze doesn't mean it's shit tier it just means it is less efficient. A bronze PSU is wasting 18% as heat, so if it's working at 200W you're really only getting 164W of power, the rest is lost due to inefficiency.

As long as you have a good brand PSU and there is enough wattage left over after the waste you're fine.

>>58967088
Why the hell did you install the cooler sideways?

>>58966350
truth. i just researched this shit today. however, i did find a weirdo Z97 board that has Ultra M.2 (PCIe 3.0 4x). im thinking about getting it since its the only way i can use my LGA 1150 cpu and have a fucking fast m2 card on the board "natively" (re: no expansion card)

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z97%20Extreme6/

>>58967182
>my mom pays for my power

>>58967192
To trigger your OCD.

>>58966808
Stop this meme. It's better than Skylel if only marginally

>>58966339
No

>>58966258
Get 2 x 4GB 3000MHz RAM

>>58966093
Check to see if mobo will support Ivy Bridge CPUs. They're on the same socket. If so just get the i7 3770 after Ryzen releases
Get another 4GB of the same speed RAM as you have before
550-650W PSU
240GB SSD
GTX 1060

Kinda bad to to upgrade platform with Ryzen right around the corner. Undoubtedly Intel's prices will be forced down, especially in the used market, so there's benefit to waiting even if you don't buy AMD

>>58966050
If you are streaming, you might need a better CPU. The 8350 would be a significant upgrade but you should wait for Ryzen even if you stick to an AM3+ CPU
The 4GB 470 is a good bang for the buck card

>>58965821
Yeah but that 1050Ti is kinda weak. It's a card for prebuilts

>>58965584
Sounds like a short or something. Take it apart and put it back together. Don't forget mobo standoffs

>>58965317
Check EVE benchmarks, but get the G4560

>>58967203
Actually if you use the residual heat loss to cook your tendies instead of the microwave then you're saving mom money.

looking for some high pressure fans for my h100 for a push/pull, can any anon recommend me some? need a couple for case airflow as well

>>58967203
>my mom pays for my PSU

>>58967216
I'm the two titans/Acer guy. Why?

What is the difference between a pirated copy of windows and a purchased one? I've heard you can't personalize the wallpaper background if you pirate, is that true? Or is there literally no difference between the two types?

https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/Monitors/23-24-inch/66952-PG258Q/?member_pricing=true

>240Hz

Fucking tempting..

>>58967216
>overclock 6700k to 4.5GHz
>pencil a 7 over the 6
>enjoy your new Kaby Lake™ CPU

>>58967246
You can use an activator and have no downside

>>58967236
The Titan X Maxwell has approximately the same performance as the 1070, which is a $380 card
SLI sucks in general

>>58967270
It's a $10 difference for better OC potential. Why would you not get the latest if you're getting an i7

>>58967217
I'm already cooking the tendies on my 290x

>>58967017

I've had TVs delivered perfectly fine. Usually when they know it's a screen, they'll be more cautious.

>>58967017
>man-handling
t. anita

>>58967293
Titan guy again. I'll be using the cards for machine learning. So do two 1070s outperform two Titan X Maxwells?

>>58967351
Can't answer that. I know that the Titans have some professional features that the lower cards don't have.

Also that monitor is weak. At 35" you want 3440x1440

>>58967369
1070 has about 1900 cores, maxwell has 3000. Cores are what's important in deep learning, mostly. 1080 performs better than maxwell apparently, even though it had 500 less cores. Pascal has 3500 or so.

Alright. So I guess I'll just get one pascal instead of two Maxwells. Apparently even 1 pascal is better than 2 1080s for parallel.

>>58967369
As for the monitor, it is 144hz, which is the reason for the lower res. Are there better options? I like the curved.

>>58967201
That's because it saps 4 lanes from the CPU itself, so you're graphics card is stuck with 8 lanes

>>58967003
i need it for a cryptocoin. Yes, i know CPUs are outdated to GPU, and GPU to ASIC and ASIC to FPGA in certain coins. However this coin has an algorithm that makes GPU mining a waste of power, and beyond that very very difficult to implement, same for ASIC. I think it's going to do really well, and it's possible for me to get a ROI for something like a 20 dollar old server much quicker with that than with a GPU on other coins. I dont have to worry about power because it's included in dorms.
id really like to go to some auctions, but i have no idea where to find them, Near chicago, so i know there have to be some. Also, id love to do some kind of IT job, but again im finding it hard to find a job around me.

>>58967451
You might consider getting a smaller monitor at that res to get good pixel density. If the monitor is smaller there's no need for a curve though

https://www.amazon.com/Asus-PG348Q-34-Inch-Ultra-wide-Monitor/dp/B01C83BE6U

144HZ DELL ULTRA SHARPS WHEN

>>58967555
Dell UltraSharps are not targeted at gaymers.

>>58967635

I don't care about gaming, I just love me some high refresh rate + thin bezel

120HZ ULTRASHARPS WHEN

Should I buy ram now or wait?

>>58967641
Why would you want a high refresh rate if you aren't gaming? Companies market their things for certain demographics, high refresh rates are targeted towards gamers.

>>58967866

cause it looks amazing

going back and even scrolling text pages at 60hz makes my eyes bleed after using 144hz for a couple years

>>58967740
do you need ram now?

>>58967740
Nah man, just store your stuff in L3 cache

>>58967884
I'm thinking to buy the ram for my ryzen build.
But I don't know if prices will go up or down.
>>58967915
Sorry I should have been more specific about my question :$ was talking about ram prices.

>>58967953
just search "ram prices"

first link
http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ram-prices-are-increasing-until-third-quarter-2017/

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>tfw bought a H series board

>>58967740
Judy download s'more

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fDRdvV
Rate the build I'm planning on setting up

What headphones should I get though? Don't want to spend over 200$ on a pair.

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MSI Z270 Tomahawk
or
ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming K4

Should i buy a cheap motherboard or go for a "high tier"?

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I've never had a good computer, just shit hand-me-down nettop computers that can't even watch HD video. I got $1,500 saved up and the wait to see if Ryzen really competes with Intel is killing me.

Can you mix two different ram brands assuming they are both 4gb and ddr4?

>>58970433
Yep, albeit I think most of us are too autistic to do it. Get the same clock speed though, or else they'll both default to the lower of the two.

>>58969841

Do you even overclock much?

They're both retarded gamer shit you most likely don't even need.

>>58970433
Just match the speeds, timings and voltages and it's fine.

>>58969841
Fatality don't buy Msi.

What is the budget for a good motherboard?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M8kJqk
Should I replace my cpu cooler?
and
Should I replace the z270 and get an x99?
also,
I'm waiting for Ryzen and the 1080 TI, and I just put a 7700k and evga 1080 because they're pretty much on the same price range

>>58970898
150$ don't cheap out.

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>motherboard CPU pin bent when trying to put the tray protection on it

FUCK YOUR GOD YOUR LORD AND YOUR CHRIST

Is it worth it to upgrade to an RX 480 from an RX 470? If so, which RX 480 specifically?

>>58970898
Depends on your needs. If you don't OC you can spend 60 - 80USD.

>>58970949
X99 is a different socket. Liquid coolers are really only for "aesthetics" or mITX builds

>>58969423
Don't get a 3TB unless you have seen blackblaze statistics and you know that the failure rate is tolerable

>>58969169
Nothing really wrong with H110. H170 is silly though

>>58967740
When the RAM specs for Ryzen get released (they might already be) you can buy

do they include remotes for monitors these days?

I'm wanting a multi HDMI output for my new monitor so I can have Xbox One and PC on it.

Ultimately I'll be using a three monitor set up. One TV, with HDMIx2 for PC and Xbox, and then two actual monitors, again one for the PC and Xbox, and then one dedicated for the PC.

Any tips? This is going to be my first time doing a set up like this. I haven't had a PC since the Intel Core 2 Duo was top of the line, so I don't even know what SLI is.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N4LCX2D/?tag=pcpapi-20

How is this for an ATX form factor B250 mobo? Or should I go with another chipset? (not going to be overclocking by the way)

should I go ahead buy the parts for my ryzen build? or will the prices for cases ssds or ram drop if I wait a month? already bought gpu and psu

>>58973308
I doubt prices of RAM or SSDs will drop. But unless you know exactly what RAM you need, I'd wait

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WJMvvV

this is my current build, what should i change first? RAM or PSU?

>>58973518
Have you already bought that? If you have then don't bother changing anything

>>58973573
>this is my current build
He's asking what to change, anon.

>>58973518
Get a cooler that isn't shit so you can overclock without hitting 90c

>>58973670
I don't know why he would ask what to change "first" as if he has to rebuy parts if your interpretation is correct. But that's why I asked

>>58972901
>>58972901
>>58972901
Anyone?

>>58973832
No, of course not. But the 470 has a lot of OC headroom, so if you're not satisfied you can try to OC to 1320 or 40

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Where do i go next with my build without spending money? i'm being bottlenecked hard right now by my i5 2500k because my mobo doesn't support overclocking. my school computers i think have 3rd gen i7's in them, so i was thinking of going into the labs when nobody's there and swapping my i5 out for their i7.
i could just get a used mobo that supports overclocking, but then when i want to upgrade later on i'll need to buy another mobo. i'm thinking of just leaving it as is for now and wait until i can afford a new mobo ram and cpu.
lemme know what you guys think.

>inb4 tyrone.
fuck college fees, least they can do is give me a fucking cpu.

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>>58973870
I figure. My current OC is this.
Can't seem to go higher without it crashing.

>>58973882
You sound like a shithead for a variety of reasons. Undoubtedly you're going to get included in one of those dumb criminal montages

>>58960381
i got the same but a 1050 ti. is 4 gb.

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>>58959936
Rate my new build...?
My budget is around $1500.
Parts list:
CPU: i5 7600k
GPU: MSI GamingX GTX 1060 6GB
MOBO: MSI B250M Mortar
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 DDR4
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G3
SSD: PNY CS1311 240GB
CASE: DIYPC D480-W
CPU COOLER: CORSAIR H50
HDD: WD Blue 2TB (Already had)
Everything should be here by 2PM tomorrow.

>>58974022
I will R8 because of your Dubs.
It seems like a moderately powerful gaming PC, probably will play most new games at 1440p 60 FPS.
I like the choice to go with a more budget friendly case that still looks pretty cool.
Will have to update us once all the parts come in.

>>58973739
Currently it sits at 20*C at idle, 40* on load.

>>58974022
Shit tier mobo for OC, you done goofed

>>58974166
>you done goofed
Even though it is an unlocked processor, I do not plan on overclocking anything higher than from 3.8 Ghz to 4.0 ~ 4.2 Ghz.
Also I have heard some good things about MSI's lastest B250 line.
Maybe I did goof the heck up.
Maybe not.
Only time will tell.

>>58974022
>>58974266
is this bait?
wtf are you doing

>>58974333
Nice trips. :D

>>58973907
If you're at 1350 you're already at stock 480 perf. Check benchmarks to see whether you're getting the expected performance.

Most of the time dropping from Ultra to High provides a huge performance boost for almost no fidelity decrease

>>58974022
Can't use 3200 RAM at full speed with a B250. It will run at 2400

>>58974266
You can't overclock at all on a B250

>>58965274
>No he's not. Nothing wrong with a 212
>clearly shows he's got a great chip
>nears 80°C
yes he is.

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I did it boys.

My first PC build ever using the wiki guide. Ignore ram.

I haven't had a new PC since 2009.

>>58974931
RAM is good. Speccy reports single data rate.

That's why they call it the GTX 1080, huh? Best used at 1080p. THAT is embarrassing

>>58974975
>tfw

I just like running my arena FPS and online shooters at 144-160hz OD.

>>58975355
>>58975355
>>58975355