/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>58916020
How do I do it "properly"?

I've used Display Driver Uninstaller, then installed from the latest AMD Rx400 driver on AMD's website. Also tried the driver that came on the disk with the card and had the same problem.

>>58916061
did you reboot after using DDU before installing the new one?

>>58915998
Newegg has Crucial MX300 2.5" 525GB on sale for $134.99
or the
Intel DC S3500 Series SSDSC2BB480G4 480GB for $109.99 how reliable are these and are they worth it for the price?

>>58916078
Yes I did

>>58916083
For what its worth you might as well get an M.2 SSD

>>58915998
BC vf n snttbg

>>58916106
What brand? Also I think that the m.2 slot on my motherboard shares bandwidth with one of my sata ports I was looking to upgrade from my Sandisk 120gb.

>>58916091
try this: http://windows7themes.net/en-us/fix-atikmpag-sys-atikmdag-sys-blue-screen-errors-bsod/

>>58916083
I heard the new Intel SSDs arent as reliable as the old ones but don't quote me on that.

>>58916106
>twice the cost per GB
nah

>>58916118
m.2 is not worth it unless it's NVMe

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Anyone else buy parts off of Craig's List for mad cheap and puts them together to sell for profit?

It's pretty fun and the profits are usually good if you find good deals.

>>58916133
>NVMe
Those are expensive.

>>58916133
>try this: http://windows7themes.net/en-us/fix-atikmpag-sys-atikmdag-sys-blue-screen-errors-bsod/

Already tried that, still get the same error sadly.

>>58916140
I would but the used market isnt as good here (Swedistan) and I don't really have any spare income.

>>58916167
it's the new standard for m.2 SSD if you want to have fast bootable drive.
just get two regular SATA SSD in ROID0 and you have similar performance as the shitty m.2 but with twice the storage space.

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So I have this on the way.

The last time I built/worked on or had a new PC was 2011ish, all my parts and tech is from about 2011.

All that is left is a GPU.

So I'm issuing a challenge to the pajeets in this thread worth the value of your card and I will even confirm your post caused me to buy it if you can convince me to buy.

Nvidia has poor business practices and Gsync costs a fortune or do I go with the supposedly more reliable and kinder AMD but at weaker hardware?

for real though this is my first build in a long time and I'm pooping myself

willing to pay up to 600 for a graphics card.

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>>58916212
>similar performance
>sata
Lol

How is the 1050?
My GPU died and i need a new one, but most of the newer more graphic heavy games just don't interest me and i don't want to invest too much for a new video card that i don't use that much.

>>58916061
>Consider a G4560 instead of i3; similar performance, up to 50% cost reduction.

Is the G4560 still worth getting over the i3 if I'm going to do some hobbyist work in Lightroom/Photoshop/Premiere? And yes, I know that I should get at least a quad core for content creation but I'm piss poor at the moment and I'm only going to be using it as a secondary PC

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>middle mouse click starts fucking up out of nowhere
>finally get sick of it and find out how to open the fucker up
>screws are under the pads on the bottom
>fuck up putting them back on when i'm done cleaning it out
>now it grabs a small bit whenever i slide the mouse around

>>58916209
if you also tried the other top 5 guides listed when you google atikmdag.sys try upating your mobo drivers, if that doesnt work maybe format?

>>58916227
Should've doubled SSD storage instead of getting a 1TB drive.

Anyway, i share your dislike for Nvidia business practices and I would get a RX 480 8GB and wait for their Vega cards.

>>58916258
>dont know how to read
>doesnt know what RAID0 is
Lol

>>58916271
It's good if you need a GPU without external PSU power, but depending on your country a rx 470 is not much more expensive but much better performance.

>>58916281
compare benchmarks

>>58916271
Don't get the 1050, get either the 1050Ti or the RX470, both are good cards.

>>58916227
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125880&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
One of the best graphics cards while remaining 1 cent under your budget (at Jet.com)

/g/uys,
I am running a dualboot win10/unix system on my gayming laptop,
can you suggest me any good (min. 2x video out) 3.0-USB-dockingstation?

>>58916306
thanks but the rx 470 is almost as exppensive as the 1060 (with not enough vram)

>>58916227
>So I'm issuing a challenge to the pajeets in this thread worth the value of your card and I will even confirm your post caused me to buy it if you can convince me to buy.

honestly I'm having a tough time understanding what the fuck you're trying to say but go with a 1080. there are some offers at or under $600, or if you want, wait for vega.

>>58916271
Get 1050 Ti or 1060 (3gb or 6gb)

>>58916306
>i share your dislike for Nvidia business practices
It rattles me. I know that shit's just like pissing in the ocean but I like to keep my system light and controlled and seeing the direction of the geforce experience and gsync is really throwing me off. I was interested in the 1080 before that, because whatever card I buy will be my card until it's completely, utterly obsolete in 5+ years.

I keep reading that SSDs are prone to failure after a year or two if you use it for the OS so I got a cheap 1TB traditional as backup. Not sure what I'm doing though desu

>>58916339
what about the 1050ti like >>58916312 suggested? it's similar to the 470 performance

>>58916357
Oh thanks. When i wrote 1050 i meant all 1050 cards. So the 1050 ti is an okayish video card?

New build problem:

New gtx 1080 is not being recognized in the device manager, nor is is being recognized in BIOS for my MSI Z270 SLI.

I was talking about it in the previous thread, and anons suggested my iGPU was just picking up first. This however is not the case I've found after doing some digging after setting my OS up.

The card is receiving power.

What the hell could it be?

The only thing I can think of is that it's not seated properly, but I don't see how it can be pushed in anymore. It looks seated.

>>58916353
>I keep reading that SSDs are prone to failure after a year or two if you use it for the OS
Only if you dont move your page,swap and download folders onto a different drive, but even without a second drive for that it will take much longer than 1-2 years of use. If you have a big SSD you can even change some settings and make the reserved bits count higher and it will last even longer.

>>58916388
it's quite a bit better than regular 1050, similar performance to the RX470, and depending on your country's what is cheaper (470 or 1050ti)

What's a good mini itx case still big enough to feature a strong gpu?

>>58916417
>Only if you dont move your page,swap and download folders onto a different drive, but even without a second drive for that it will take much longer than 1-2 years of use. If you have a big SSD you can even change some settings and make the reserved bits count higher and it will last even longer.
What do I google to learn how to do this? ty for the detailed reply btw.

>>58916411
REseat it, take it out and put it back in a couple times in case it's some dust in the slot you can also try blowing on the slot.

Try the other PCI-E slot aswell.

>>58916422
Define Nano C

>>58916417
the 1050ti is 150€ upwards the Amd 170€ upwards.
Thank you very much. i think i buy the 1050ti it should be sufficient until i get a new board/cpu.
My old was a 570 gtx i assume the 1050ti is noticable faster?

>>58916453
First part just "change windows page/swap/download location"
Second part is called 'Over-Provisioning'.

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>>58916306
>Every single benchmark is for gaming where CPU performance barely mean fuck all

Don't really think it matters if the G4560 is slightly worse than the i3 7100 since I'm using a Thinkpad X230 docked to my monitor right now so anything would be better than that

>tfw people make fun of you for your processor choice but the only reason you have it is because your favorite game is cancerously cpu heavy.

>>58916497
>My old was a 570 gtx i assume the 1050ti is noticable faster?
Google the benchmarks yourself, but should be.

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What did they mean by this?

>4c4t
$126

>4c8t
$176

>6c12t
$227

>8c16t
$328

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>>58916497
that's not a lot more expensive, get the RX470 it's actually quite a bit faster than the 1050ti and totally worth €20 more

>>58916517
>Every single benchmark is for gaming where CPU performance barely mean fuck all
your google-fu is weak

>Don't really think it matters if the G4560 is slightly worse than the i3 7100 since I'm using a Thinkpad X230 docked to my monitor right now so anything would be better than that
probably true.

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>>58916551
>those model names

>>58916548

Is a server CPU better for livestreaming than a normal one?

>>58916564
>>58916564
~40% faster

Only 13% more expensive.

You're a retard for not getting that.

>>58916564
mmh ok that is really faster thanks.

>>58916595
why did you only reply to my post? im not the one considering buying anything

>>58916594
No. Core count + thread count + clock speed + architecture + RAM is better than the other one.

>>58916551
C is core
t is for threads

>>58916608
IPC.

am i better off buying one 1200 computer now or or one $600 pc now and another in a few years. main use is running development tools like android studio, visual studio and ableton live.

also regarding live whats the best cpu for it within reason? even my fx8350 nearly dies when running some of my stuff (especially uhe diva, jesus)

>>58916661
better from the start lasts longer and saves you money in the long run (up to a certain cost point).

but it also depends on the software you use if it's optimized to use more cores or if it likes better IPC+higher clock.

>>58916661
I'd go all in, 1200 now and push it for as long as you can, maybe spend all your money on a good foundation of parts.

>>58916411
>>58916454
>re-seated in the other slot
>now there is no display from GPU or MoBo

PANIC

>>58916709
reseat it back in the first slot???

did you turn off the PSU while doing shit?

did you ground yourself before doing shit?

can you try the GPU in a different PC?

borrow a GPU from a friend and try that.

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Thinking about getting an i5 6500. Should I?

(No, I don't want to wait for Ryzen, it's not compatible with my mobo. I don't have high hopes for it either)

>>58916709
Are you sure it's not DOA? You might wanna send it back, boyo.

You were the unlucky 1.6%.

>>58916736
What's your motherboard?

>>58916709
>>58916727
also what cable are you using? try a different one.

>>58916736
maybe?

would help if you posted speccy screeny.

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Old guy here self studying technology to make a career out of it.

Im self studying for the comptia and i want to build a computer just to practice with stuff. Not a gaming one literally just a desktop generic one.

Can i do this? How expensive? I can spend up to 1k but since its just for info and generic stuff i want it to be cheap.

>>58916709
by the way, i think im the guy you referred to earlier as the "anon suggested the onboard picked it up first" which is not what i said or meant.

take out the GPU and make sure your onboard video works along with your monitor.

if that works your 1080 is probably dead

I have one last question to the rx470 or radeon cards in general. Radeon cards supposed to make problems with some games where nvidia cards did not.
I am stupid and only inform myself when i need new hardware. So is that still so that there are more problems with radeon cards?

>>58916771
sounds like a comfy project and absolutely possible for your budget, pretty sure the website in the op is perfect for it/logical increments low spec

>>58916752
MSI Z170 SLI Plus

Any recommendations for an ATX-sized case? (will be holding a MSI B250 pc mate and a gtx 1060)

>>58916771
Look for an AM1 motherboard and an Athlon 5350 APU. It's the cheapest computer you can buy and still have some fun with.

>>58916771
Yes. Something like this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/L8WxtJ
You can even buy used parts online from something like Craigslist and put together for even cheaper.

Also if you want to learn properly about compatability and stuff check out the OP and the sticky thread (linked in the OP).

>>58916836
Without optical drive: Define C.
With optical drive: Fractal R5
There's also cheaper alternatives like Corsair R100/R200 and Fractal Core.

>>58916819
i5-6400

Then overclock it.

Yes you heard it right here on /g/. Exclusively. Locked skylake can overclock on Z170 motherboards.

Exclusive and live news. Roughly a year or two old though.

I love you guise.

I'd be so lost without you.

no homo

What's a good (cheap) i3 mini PC that has a Toslink/SPDIF connector?

I've looked at NUCs and Gigabyte Brix and its a crapshoot about which models actually have it and which ones actually work.

>>58916353
Only the cheap SSD's that don't have onboard DRAM. Good SSD's use this RAM to store the cache map, the cheap cards without load it into NVRAM (storage) and it leads to a consistent trickle of writes. As for the OS and page file eating it up, not really. The decent solid state drives should last for a decade as a simple OS drive, which is why Samsung warranties the pros for 10 years.

>>58917007
just build your own ITX computer

>>58916453
With that Evo just download the Samsung magician software. It has presets you can choose (high perf or long life) and it will make proper adjustments.

>>58917011
>which is why Samsung warranties the pros for 10 years.
makes a lot of sense actually

>tfw I've been messing with driver issues for the last 3 days and I'm getting tona point where I am consiring upgrading to Windows 10 to see if that fixes it somehow

Am I currently part of some sick microsoft experement or am I losing my mind

>>58917098
would help us help you if you actually answered to our suggestions instead of just greentexting random shit

just fucking format and reinstall

>>58917098
Just use 10, you nigger.

If you do anything you want to hide then you should be using seperate hardware for it anyway, you'd be a dumb nigger to do your dodgy shit on your main or gaming/every day hardware.

Get 10 on your desktop, store your questionable anime collection on your laptop and run a neckbeard os.

I was guilty of the same memes though. I broke my W10 trying to debotnet it even though I have no personal files on there and do my email on my laptop.

>>58917098
Yes

However I'd suggest a good GNU+Linux. WINE for games/programs. VM for other essentials.

>>58917023
>ITX computer
Too big, too loud

>>58917126
The suggestions were to follow the top links on google and format

I've done everything suggested on the first few pages of google for that error and file and none of it worked.

I'm not going to format until it is the very last possible option, I'd lose too much shit to make it worth trying it now.

I guess I'll tey find my Windows disk to repair with it but I don't think that will help since the issue is exclusively with a rx460 driver installed.

>>58917193
>too big
you're looking at the wrong case
>too loud
you're looking at the wrong coolers/fans

>>58917217
>I've done everything suggested on the first few pages of google for that error and file and none of it worked.

>thinks he's not at the last option - formatting

lad...

Is it worth it to wait for Vega?

>>58917238
>is it worth waiting 5 months for something we dont know the performance of
maybe

>>58917234
all the people asking for help online red that and it didn't work, so I really dont want to since it wont do any good

Can you repair windows without the install disk?

>>58917371
no.

and i dont think that file is even part of windows itself.

´like i said, go the fuck back and answer all the fucking replies you got so we know exactly that the fuck you've done so far.

if you dont wanna do that, fuck off and format cus im not gonna try help you if you dont want to answer so we can help you troubleshoot

>>58917371
Just give up on your install.

autism baka

Also if you were that concerned about protecting your data you would have external, offline backups to consult and not keep all your shit on your PC where it can be lost like this.

>>58916709
>>58916727
>>58916750
>>58916760
>>58916778
I FUCKING DID IT
I FUCKING DID IT
I FUCKING DID IT I FUCKING FIGURED IT OUT

HOLY FUCK

Okay, okay, so here is fucking goes:
>Had to set up OS using iGPU. Figured that it was overriding my GPU and that I'd have to change it in settings
>Welp, that's not fucking it

After hours of fumbling around I found:
>PCI-E slot I'm using doesn't work
>Switch to other PCI-E, can't use GPU or iGPU
>This is because I don't have current Nvidia drivers
>Which I couldn't install, because they couldn't recognize the hardware existed
>Had to restart, go into BIOS, force the setting to only choose integrated graphics to block my machine from trying to use GPU without drivers
>Install drivers while using iGPU
>Back to BIOS, turn off integrated force
>GPU now works

God DAMN that was frustrating.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pjqcm8
For gaymen, maybe video rendering, maybe play with unity or some shit. Plan on upgrading gpu later but low on mone.

>>58917426
You did it lad, well done. Saving your post incase I ever have the same problem.

>>58917426
>didn't remember the Golden Rule of installing new hardware
>had problems for hours
Typical /v/tards

>>58917443
You can get a gold rated semi-modular PSU for $20 more (highly recommended).
Replace HDD with a 240GB+ SSD. You can add a HDD later if you need more storage (much easier than adding a SSD and moving over your OS install).

>>58917506
Kool thanks. I actually might be getting an ssd from someone but I'm not sure so I didn't put it on there. I don't know much about psus. Is the gold just more power efficient? Or just generally better at supplying power throughout the system?

>>58917443
PSU is rash, get a SSD, your (((gaming))) stuff is a shit meme.

>>58917583
yes, the bronze/gold/silver/whatveer (80+ rating) determines the efficiency. but a gold rated one also comes with the added bonus of higher quality parts which makes it more reliable and less likely to fry your other hardware if something goes wrong.

here's the changes i would recommend:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qfvgpb

>>58917645
CX is not "trash" but it is certainly lower quality than other models.

>>58917400
>´like i said, go the fuck back and answer all the fucking replies you got so we know exactly that the fuck you've done so far.

Already done that pretty much but ok:

>>58916078
Yes, I used DDU rebooted, installed the driver then rebooted again. Same problem. With both the latest driver online and the driver from the boxed disk. Not able to get any drivers inbetween from what I can tell since it just grabs the latest.

>>58916133
Done that for both atikmdag and atikmpag. No change at all.

>>58916306
Been following guides online for 3 days now, that incudes;
>Update graphics card drivers
>Use old graphics card drivers
>Update Windows
>Check disk for errors
>Reseat graphics card
>Expand atikmdag/atikmpag sys files manually

Thats all the replies. I'm currently restoring to just after the Windows Updates but I doubt that will help since the problem was the same back then.

>>58917701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYHVUrXOwbI

>>58917732
you havent updated motherboard drivers like i told you

Anyone got experience with Samsungs V-NAND SSDs?
Are they really worth the extra price for reliability?
Or should I go for meme NVME drive for the same price

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>video games

>>58917752
yes, and? did i say "use a CX for high-end rig" ? No? Ok good now you can fuck off.

>>58917755
Sorry forgot that. Updated BIOS and all drivers via Live Update 6 or whatever MSI's thing is. Only thing out of date was the audio driver and something else unrelated. That didnt fix it either.

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>>58917778
>anime

>>58917782
>live update
no, go to their website and specifically check for ATIK driver

>>58917779
>i7-7700K
>future GPU upgrade
>OC
>not high-end
Enjoy your housefire.

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>>58915998
Since I haven't seen any other general computer buying threads, I figured this is the closest thing.

So I need an on-the-go computer/tablet for notes and drawing, I'm not a fan of stand alone graphics tablets, and carrying one device is so much easier when sketching and note taking on the go.
I'm using an i5 x220 tablet and it's decent, but it's heavy as fuck as a tablet, gets really hot, 2.5 hour battery life, chugs in basic Photoshop and clip studio tasks, and the motherboard has had some issues and I'm ready to retire the thing.
With a budget of around $450-$500 (trying to come as low under that as possible), I'm trying to find something with a 1080p or better display, wacom digitizer (n-trig digitizers, like on the surface pro 3 and dell tablets, have a fair number of issues like odd pressure, non-smooth wobbly lines, etc), and is able to run Photoshop CC nicely.
Right now I'm looking at the Surface Pro 2 or a thinkpad helix, they're reasonably priced and use wacom digitizers, but the size and lack of repairability of the SP2 and the performance of the helix concern me.
>Anyone know of any better devices with built-in digitizers that meet these criteria without being TOO cheap?
The cube i7 is also out since it's a non-serviceable tablet with almost no company support, so if something happens, there's not a lot that can be done.

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Hi guys my GPU PSU cable wont reach my gpu socket on the motherboard, would a 30cm extension cable cause any power or performance issues?

>>58917857
>implying i suggested he should get a CX
learn to read you fucking dipshit

>>58917923
You said it's not trash, but it is, especially for anons purpose.
I suggest you tech illiterate retard go back to shitposting on >>>/b/

>>58917801
The atik drivers were from the grapics card not the mobo though.

And the MSI mobo only had their installer on their website not individual drivers to download.

Should I be looking somewhere else?

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My rig is 4 years old.

Intel i5 3.4ghz
8gb ddr3 ram

Is it worth upgrading to any of the listed graphics cards?

I feel like I'd enjoy the freedom of a better graphics card to enjoy newer games. My rigs biggest weakness seems to be the graphics card

>>58917908
Shouldn't have any drop off in voltage over such a small distance. I'd say you would be fine but I'm no pc builder

>>58917899
2.5 hours?
I get 4-6 hours on mine. I use the 6 cell battery, what do you use?

>>58917899
i'd bite the bullet and increase your budget if you want something good.

>>58917908
it's fine

>>58917943
again, i didnt tell anon to get it for his high-end build and if you check the fucking link you posted yourself you'll see it's fine for cheap budget builds

>>58917955
stop using passmark it's fucking shit and inaccurate.
>i5 Xghz
post model number you tard, the Ghz doesnt mean shit.

>Is it worth upgrading to any of the listed graphics cards?
fuck no they're all outdated.

>>58917968
>shouldnt
>implying it's even possible with just a simple extention

>>58917996
Longer cables produce voltage drop off, genius.

is it okay if all of my temps are under 30c at idle?

>>58918027

hey genius, do the math and tell us how much voltage drop-off would occur over 30cm

>>58917996
What benchmark is accurate

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>>58918027
>with a 30cm extention
oh noes my 1% voltage drop what am i gonna dooooo

>>58918028
>>>/g/sqt

>>58918042
In relation to my original post, probably none.

Why are you acting so superior, it's a Sunday night and we're all on the same korean takeaway website

>>58918044
literally any other hardware site that benchmarks shit and uses industry standard software

>>58918052
fuck, i bet it's even less than 1%

>>58918066
and in relation to his post, even bringing up voltage dropoff for that distance is just silly.

i'd like one bbq platter please

>>58918066

>probably none

exactly

anyways, I went against the grain and bought a fan controller. With a few 120mm's and a couple 140mm's, the ability to turn some on and others off has made this computer super quiet.

>>58917990
I also have a 6 cell, if I have it on power saver, i get 3.5-4 hours, but at that point, it's so sluggish, even very light drawing applications are a pain to use. But more of that it gets to around 90c when Photoshop editing (this is after new thermal paste application), the screen's resolution is terrible for a tablet for drawing and with UI scaling in some applications expecting to use a higher resolution, only 2 point touch that's very sketchy in some application, and, with mine, there's a pressure spot behind the display and the LAN port stopped working all together.
I'm done with repairing and replacing things on this thing, so I just want to get something new.
>>58917996
Well, the SP2 can be purchased for around $250 on ebay as well as other older devices, I'm not opposed to buying used or refurbished if need be.

Is it a good idea to get a 1070 for future-proofing?

>>58917701
2 sata ports tho

>>58918433
oh fuck im dumb

Help /g/, my drivers are so out of date and i can't find the driver websites to update them because i dont know what is in this prebuilt pc. Can someone recommend me a driver updater

>>58918344
Depends. Are you a ga(y)mur? Do you want 1440p or 4K? If you just want good 1080p than 1060 6GB is good

>>58918574
not really pcbg but whatever
>look at case
>find brand name
>go to website
>search model number
>support/downloads

next time >>>/g/sqt

>>58918344
you cant really future proof GPU but 1070 is a good card and will last you several years depending on resolution and settings in games

>>58918600
>1060 6GB
or RX480 8GB depending on what is cheaper in his country because their performance is pretty much identical

but gsync monitor costs more if you plan on using that

>>58918344

1070 won't be futureproof. I wouldn't even waste money on a 1080. Wait for Vega.

>>58918684
waiting more than 3 months is not really recommended unless your current hardware is still OK

>>58918600
>Are you a ga(y)mur?
Occasional. I also want to dabble in CUDA and run some GPGPU stuff.
>Do you want 1440p or 4K?
I don't have a monitor for this, I'd maybe try 1440p.
>>58918684
Last time I checked Vega was coming in May, is it really a game-changer?

>>58918707

It just won't be a complete rip-off like the 1080 is, and it's release might even bring the 1080's price down.

I'd just get an RX480 or GTX1060 and wait it out.

>>58918782
How is 1080 a complete rip-off? Rip-off of what?

>>58918798

In my country it's $300-$400 more than the 1070 which is already in the $600-$700 range.

>>58918798
no Async compute, cant mine buttcoins like AMD, bad performance/dollar ratio.

but at least it's not a titan-tier perf/dollar ratio

>>58918817
And I thought we had it bad. 500$ in mine.

>>58918835

>can't mine

it can mine, but AMD as more cores for more simple computations. It's like giving a calculator to a poor person who has more time on their hands rather than expecting a genius to do it in between figuring stock market fluctuations.

UK fag here

What geaphics cards are worth buying here as all the price/value comparisons I find are based on the US market where parts are cheaper

>>58918913
1060 6GB or 1070, depending on if you want 4k or 1440p

>>58918950
Thanks. Why are so many companies making slightly varying different clock speeds

Is £10 more for 100mhz clock speed gonna change my life?

>>58919036
Oh and also my mobo is pci-e 2.0 not 3.0, does that mean I'm not gonna get the most out of newer cards

>>58918913
>>58918950
>1060 6GB or 1070, depending on if you want 4k or 1440p
RX 480 8GB has the same performance as the 1060 6GB, so get whichever is cheaper for you.

>>58919036
Milking money. You wont notice any difference and can most likely OC that much yourself.

>>58919058
Doesnt matter, they're backwards compatible.

>>58919078
Fuck your AMD gay shit. Nvidia is superior in performance and quality. So what if its $5 extra bucks? Only bandwagoners and poorfags buy AMD and Radeon shit

>>58919036
It's about binning.
Two different GPUs perform identically under standard conditions, but don't reach the same stable clocks when overclocking. So companies sort GPUs by their overclocking potential and sell the better ones for premium. Also they usually have good custom cooling solution, aiding in overclocking. They are sold with a higher clock, which the company guarantees will be stable, though you can overclock more yourself.
>>58919058
From what I've read, it doesn't matter much.

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I'm stuck on a case for my system, leaning towards one in pic, what do you guys think from the CyberPower link.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_X99_Configurator

>>58919078
Thank you anon

>>58919094
>t. novidia shill

>>58919102
That's an Inwin 800

>>58919094
>>58919124

Both of you shut the fuck up. You're worse than the console-warring faggots on /v/.

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>>58919094
but it's not you retarded novidya shill

>>58919102
case is subjective. your main concern with a case should be the internals so check some reviews and make sure it's a decent one and doesnt just look nice.

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>>58919094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcF36_qMd8M

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>Installed an SSD and a 2TB HDD to replace my old, failing HDD
>Every time I boot up, the HDD makes a noise as if its starting up
>Remains silent otherwise, but sometimes makes a similar, quieter noise when accessing data

Did I fuck something up here? This drive is brand new but I feel like it's already going to take a shit on me. Thankfully there's maybe a total of 2gb of data on this thing so replacing it won't be difficult. I just need to know if it's about to croak on me.

>>58919233

>wahh stop making smart financial decisions

how much better is a closed loop for cooling than an air cooler? I want to oc a 7700 but Ive never done any form of liquid cooling. Is it that much of a difference?

>>58919238
What drive do you have?

I currently have a gigabyte h87-hd3 motherboard and an i5-4570.
What's the best CPU I can upgrade to that will work on the same motherboard and costs ~$250? (mostly for games, if it matters)

>>58919298
A 120mm AIO is about the same in performance as a 140mm dual-fan heatsink, but it is noisier due to pump noise at lower temperatures.
AIOs only makes sense if you're using a case with limited or restricted airflow and need to dump the hot air out of your case rather than have it circulate inside.
A 7700K works fine with a decent air cooler. You're not going to see any dramatic difference in performance by upgrading to a 120mm AIO. 240mm on the other hand may net some benefits (higher thermal headroom), but it's not worth the cost and if you need to dump out that much heat, there is a very good chance that you're pushing your CPU to unsafe limits.

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>>58919264
>smart financial decisions
>crippling progress and ripping off consumers
did you even watch the video more than 10 seconds?

>>58919403
a triple fan AIO gets slightly better temps tho

>ordered new modular PSU
>actually excited to replace my old one and re-do all cables even though it'll improve literally nothing
Send help

>>58919440
Yes, but with added cost and more noise, since you have three fans to deal with in addition to a pump you often have no control over.

1800x amd 8 core 16 thread vs. 7700k guys, which would you recommend?

>>58919514
>but with added cost and more noise
true, but i doubt the fans do much noise unless you OC a lot since you got more of them which lets you use lower RPM

>>58919546
wait for real benchmarks and real prices

>>58919546
1800X if and only if you need the extra cores.
The 7700K can overclock better and has more flexible expansion options than Ryzen+X370

>>58919348
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178993&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-

>>58919238
>>58919655
go into power management options and set it to not turn off the HDD

>>58919655
Huh. Past Seagate Barracudas were relatively silent, but they all make this high-pitched clicking noise when they booted up. That noise is the sound of the actuator with the read/write heads moving across the platter. They also park their heads after 90 seconds on non-uses, so you hear that click sound again if you don't do anything with the drive.

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>mfw people spend money on expensive watercooling setups because MUH TEMPS AND MUH OC'S
>mfw people spend extra money on slightly 'faster' ram because MUH OC'S
>mfw people take pride in their 'battlestation' they waste away their lives at
>mfw people spend more than 4 hours on a computer daily unless its for their job
>mfw people buy the stupidest looking open aired acrylic cases and put their toys on top of their hardware because 'it looks cool'
>mfw people buy rgb anything
>mfw people upgrade perfectly fine systems because I JUST NEED TO GOTTA GO FASTER MUH FPS NEED TO MAX OUT EVERYTHING
>mfw someone buys dual gpu ANYTHING
>mfw games are probably the worst they have ever been in history
>mfw AAA titles are absolute garbage and low effort cash grabs and are more like interactive movies than games
>mfw inovating in the gaming industry is dead
>mfw someone fell for the ultrawide meme
>mfw people buy 144hz monitors to play csgo at 1024x768 stretched
>mfw there is literally 0 innovation or incentive for dev's to reach outside of the box
>mfw devs don't care enough or don't have time to rebuild apis to better suite multicore and multithreaded gaming
>mfw all these 14-18 year old kiddes building their rgb facebook/leddit/gta v stoner stations with mommys credit card and shitting up /g/ about upcoming hardware that won't even matter

I hope pc building as a hobby dies within the next 5 years. It was fun in the nF4 days, but lets be honest, pc building isn't what it used to be. the gains are nonexistent, and there is never any leaps because were already approaching the limits of silicon and micro processing

>>58919739
It's fairly telling when most other PC shop owners I know don't bother buying AIOs or custom loop. Fuck, most of them stick with the stock coolers.

>>58919739
>MUH TEMPS AND MUH OC'S
legitimate reason
>slightly 'faster' ram because MUH OC'S
a couple % real performance gain and the price difference is negligible
>pride in their 'battlestation' they waste away their lives at
>spend more than 4 hours on a computer daily unless its for their job
yeah because you know how much time everyone spends at their PC
>stupidest looking open aired acrylic cases and put their toys on top of their hardware because 'it looks cool'
>buy rgb anything
this i actually agree with. flashy cases and RGB shit is cancer.
>I JUST NEED TO GOTTA GO FASTER MUH FPS NEED TO MAX OUT EVERYTHING
what are you, a poorfag? let people waste their money if they want to.
>buys dual gpu ANYTHING
i agree. not worth the hassle and risk of issues.
>games are probably the worst they have ever been in history
also agree. AAA games are just rehashed unfinished bullshit and everyone crams out shitty DLC for cash
>people buy 144hz monitors to play csgo at 1024x768 stretched
refresh rate has nothing to do with the resolution and does make a difference.
>literally 0 innovation or incentive for dev's to reach outside of the box
kinda agree
>devs don't care enough or don't have time to rebuild apis to better suite multicore and multithreaded gaming
at least some of the bigger ones are starting to utilize more cores but it doesnt scale very well. and some indie devs are just sad.
>about upcoming hardware that won't even matter
but Ryzen does matter, it can bring back some much needed competition

>>58919836
>legitimate reason
Nope. You get minimal gains from overclocking these days.
>a couple % real performance gain and the price difference is negligible
>yeah because you know how much time everyone spends at their PC
>this i actually agree with. flashy cases and RGB shit is cancer.
>what are you, a poorfag? let people waste their money if they want to.
>i agree. not worth the hassle and risk of issues.
>also agree. AAA games are just rehashed unfinished bullshit and everyone crams out shitty DLC for cash
>kinda agree
>at least some of the bigger ones are starting to utilize more cores but it doesnt scale very well. and some indie devs are just sad.
Not an argument
>refresh rate has nothing to do with the resolution and does make a difference.
No it doesn't
>but Ryzen does matter, it can bring back some much needed competition
No it doesn't. Ryzen is worthless in the grand scheme of things. They have not advanced anything forward or introduce any new innovation to change the face of the market.

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>>58919782
or... you know, their customers will never OC and they have no idea or want for a quieter and cooler system... but hey what the fuck do we know, rite?

>>58919872
take your retarded baseless opinions and leave

>>58919892
I have over fifteen years of experience working with PC. My opinions carry far more gravity than yours ever could. Cry more, /v/-kiddie.

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>>58919910
>15 years experience
>still so clueless about the real world
>/v/-kiddie

>>58919950
90% of the work that comes into my shops are tablets and smart phones. I rarely work on personal computers anymore since almost no one uses anything newer than a Core2 system. They all bought into the iPad meme ages ago and have never left.
PCs are dead. PC gaming is dying. The entire market is in a giant bubble right now, only being held aloft by children such as yourself and their parent's credit cards.

>>58919986
>PC gaming is dying
Are you retarded? It's the exact opposite. PC gaming has grown ridiculously in the past few years and still is.
Standard/office desktops are on the decline, though.

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>>58919986

>>58920019
What part of "It's a fucking bubble" do you not understand? There is nothing substantial driving PC growth right now. Even console sales are flagging. VR is a dead fish (I have had literally 0 people ask me to build them a VR-capable machine). PC gaming is going to contract from lackluster sales (EA and Ubisoft are reporting loss of growth in their industry, go figure).
It's
A
Fucking
Bubble

>>58920065
>Even console sales are flagging
That's because console don't have this huge cancerous esports streaming shitpile going for them. Those are two completely different worlds.
PC gaming will not die in the foreseeable future.

>>58920065
>it's a bubble
>since the 80s
>PC game sales still going strong
>more anecdotal evidence and baseless assumptions
>10% of Resident Evil 7 is played with VR
just stop posting

>>58920129
>>58920120
Go buy some houses in Canada or China then. Enjoy it when it burst, you stupid fucking /v/kiddies
Now get the fuck off of /g/.

>>58920144
>houses are the same as video games
You are completely delusional and retarded. You also have ZERO knowledge of how economic markets work, faggot.
I suggest you go back to shitposting on /b/ you fucking autist.

>>>/b/
>>>/b/

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>>58920144
>comparing video game market with the housing market which was caused by retarded bankers and loan takers
>videogame market survived the dotcom bubble AND the 2009 recession
>thinks he knows shit about videogame and PC market because of his shitty little shop and tiny customer base
it's time to go back to the real work, buddy

>>58920239
>muh anecdotal evidence
Keep dreaming, loverboy

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>>58920290
>Keep dreaming, loverboy
says the gayboi that hasnt posted a single piece of hard evidence to back up his claims.

>>58920309

not the guy your arguing with, but do you just take every chart you see as fact?

the pc gaming industry is most definitely a bubble

let me guess, you get your news from CNN too?

>>58920342
>the pc gaming industry is most definitely a bubble
>my evidence is my opinion
>calling others out for CNN
You are literally CNN. Now fuck off, retard.

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>>58920342
http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry#History_of_worldwide_video_game_industry_revenues

>not a single shred of evidence pointing at a bubble
>market going strong since 1973
>b-b-but muh bubble!! MUH BUBBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where the fuck are the jannies when you need them

>>58920477
Fiddling their boypuccies in the storeroom like the faggots they are.

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>>58920637
ye, there's one faggot that runs the chink thread (or is close friend with the guy) that banned me for a day for dubz posting the other day.
meanwhile there's baiting, shitposting and trolling rampant across the whole fucking board.

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>>58920701
Kek.
>faggot mod bans me
>switch vpn
>continue shitposting

WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHAT YOU GONNA TO WHEN I CONTINUE SHITPOSTING FOR YOU

>>58920732
i dont really mind the ban as i broke the rules, but the thing that annoys me is that worse shit goes unpunished or doesnt even get deleted.

Why does my bios keep resetting every time I turn the power off? Did they give me a faulty battery, or some shit?

>>58920821
yes. try replacing CMOS battery.

>>58920769
Not only here. Unironically /pol/ is worse and by worse i don't mean the usual baiting, bantz and casual shitposting threads. I mean actual shilling from outside.
That board is currently like the vietnam of shitposts and there's no end of it in sight.

>>58920239
That's not very impressive, though. That's just inflation + a bit of extra.

>>58920854
see >>58920435

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>>58920852

>>58920929
>east ukraine is now war zone
>syria is now war zone
Geee...
But i can remember the time when /pol/ and ONLY /pol/ sometimes stopped working for some reason.

>>58920975
i thought i had another pic saved about the whole ordeal with new SJW jannies/mod on that board and them getting rid of all the old /pol/ users.

>>58921038
I think i know which one you're talking about. There's also another pic where mods admitted to cooperate with those autistic commies from leftypol on "reeducating" /pol/ which of course will never happen.

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>>58921089
fucking hell it's true, i didnt believe it at first...

>>58921127
Everything is, /pol/ is always right.
Currently we have CTR shills shilling anti-trump, Correctiv shills and retards from /r/the_schulz shilling for Martin Schulz (german chancellor candidate, kike, globalist) and some leftypol autists with their daily commie thread.
Such is life on /pol/.

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>/pol/ this, /pol/ that
What the fuck has this got to do with PC building?

>>58921171
i thought merkel was the kike and schulz the saviour that will save europe?

>>58921185
derailed

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>>58921185
This is now /pol/ clay. ANSCHLUSS.

>>58921205
Both are globalist kikes. There's a special place in Soros' sex dungeon for both of them.

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>>58921239
afaik schulz havent done or said anything that makes him a kike apart from that one unverified quote about eu existing for jews or something.

>>58921279
He's a pro-EU globalist, do you need to know more? As a german i can tell you he's the last thing we currently need.
On september 24th we can choose between another 4 year ride downhill with Fatima "Mutti" Merkel or this globalist kike who'll open the boarders and fully transform this country into Syria 2.0.
I'm actually thinking of going to USA, Poland or some chink country after i'm done with college, fuck EU.

>>58921320
i havent heard he wants to do any of that.

Any mousepad recommendations, or are they pretty much a diamond dozen?

>>58921371
qck+

>>58921371
SteelSeries QcK+

I built a new PC with an an Intel i5 7600K (Kaby Lake) alongside a Cooler Master Hyper Evo 512 cooler. I installed the CPU right, since......I'm able to use my computer. I installed the cooler properly, even though it was a pain in the ass. It's mounted tight.

Despite this, my CPU fan sporadically turns on and is loud. I look at Speccy to see my temps, and it fluctuates from 25 degrees (C) to 55. When I view task manager to see what's up, it'll show something like Steam (idle) or iTunes having 60-80% CPU usage, when I'm not doing much.

I should add that this is the first CPU I've had with an aftermarket cooler. Am I just not used to them being loud as hell?

is there a better alternative to buying an external hard drive?

i only have a laptop right now and though i have plans for a pc build down the road, i need extra storage now

whats my best option here?

>>58921366
He and his party will do this m8. If he wins we'll see four years of a Die Linke (far-left), Die Grüne (far-left hippies) and SPD.
Die Linke and Die Grüne are known to be anti-german, some of them participated at "bomber harris do it again" and similar events, lefties also finance and support the antifa.
I doubt i need to tell you that this is not good as we can currently see with the (((peaceful protests))) in the US.

Some anon also archived the source of that quote on archive.fo/.is, ask for it on /pol/.

>>58921387
A low tdp cooler is bound to struggle a bit with a hot K cpu.

>>58921387
did you remove the plastic cover from the bottom of the cooler?
what OS?
disable iTunes and see if it stops.
run some stress tests like prime95 and monitor temps with openhwmonitor.

>>58921460
>He and his party will do this
Isn't he SPD? from what i understand they wont allow germany to be cucked like the left and greens want.

>>58921410
replace your internal drive with a bigger one

>>58921460
That shit is interesting and all but it sure as fuck doesn't belong here.

>>58921522
>Isn't he SPD?
Yes and SPD will cuck this country even more. In fact all parties but AfD will, but they have zero chance of winning, meaning we're fucked either way.
We are allowed to chose between pest and cholera. I'll vote AfD regardless.

>>58921410
1. External
2. Replacing internal
3. Cloudmeme

>>58921522
I removed the plastic tip. I'm using a fresh install of Windows 10. I don't have iTunes running.

>>58921626
open resource monitor so you can check cpu usage and do the other stuff i mentioned as well as some idle time and make a list of the programs that makes the CPU spike and the fans to spin up

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i5 - $350
i7 - $500

1070 - $650
1080 - $1000

Decide on a combination for me.

>>58921808
come back in 2 weeks when ryzen is out

>>58916140
buy ebay, sell craigslist

best profit is buying dell precisions and stuffing a cheap GPU in there. I can easily make 100% profit from that shit

>>58921808
R5 1400X $199
R7 1700X $389

>>58921878
god damn i fucking hate these retarded model names

>>58921878
These have already been debunked.

>>58916140
>>58921833

these guys know what's up.

>>58919359
pls respond

>>58922159
No they haven't

>spend 3 days trying to fix graphics card blue screens
>finally give in and test my older graphics card
>it works

All that time and it was some slit eyed child not doing his job right. At least it is under warranty, what a fucking pain though.

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>>58922276
>took him 3 days before he tried his old card

>>58922319
I didn't want to be right in thinking it was the card itself being borked and not the driver.

I'll try it again one last time tomorrow but I'm 99% sure it is the card.

>>58922348
lad, drivers dont come into play until you get into the fucking operating system.

>>58916353
>>58916417

horse shit, i've been using a 120 GB intel SSD for like 5 years as an OS and swap.

we really need some sticky's to curb /g/'s myths.

>>58922445
i agree.

btw hows your health? post SSDlife.

>>58922462

i smart'd all my drives the other day and they're listed as good, i'll have to dig something up.

here's the readout from crystal disk mark:

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 527.325 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 151.463 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 115.949 MB/s [ 28307.9 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 112.897 MB/s [ 27562.7 IOPS]
Sequential Read (T= 1) : 480.869 MB/s
Sequential Write (T= 1) : 140.298 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 27.480 MB/s [ 6709.0 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 100.581 MB/s [ 24555.9 IOPS]

Test : 1024 MiB [C: 94.7% (105.3/111.2 GiB)] (x1) [Interval=5 sec]

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I forgot its sunday, so i still have to wait til tomorrow for this stuff

Where could i find an inverted motherboard? Pci above the i/o?
Actually, maybe not needed, but i would need a very long x16 riser for the 90° low profile single expansion slot

I love fuckin with old c2d machines

>>58922512
inverted mobo? u mean BTX or some shit like the opening is on the other side of the case?

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>>58922543
Yeah
Id want to stick a modern system in this hp dc 7700

>>58922618
nope, they dont make those any more. you'll have to ghetto-mod the fuck out of it. you could make it a bit easier if you got a detachable motherboard tray, cut out the old plate and attach the separate one.

>>58922657
I could just butcher the entire rear of the thing to fit a matx or mitx mobo
It would just be easier to have an inverted mobo

>>58922618
>>58922657
btw are you sure just turning a regular board around works, maybe with some tweaking of the mounting?

>>58922690
why not just buy a cheap htpc or newer (flat branded) case with atx mounting?

>>58922718
i find more fun in building around oldschool hardware or things that are more a challenge than just sticking parts together
my first build was converting an IBM thinkcentre from the lga 775 p4 era into a modern machine with an i5 4460s, 32gb of ram, and an r9 280x
even made a custom 92mm water cooler
>>58922703
with the board thats in there the pci slots are on the left side, the i/o on the right
so if i stuck a gpu in it with the riser it would be vents facing down
so if i stuck a regular mitx or matx mobo inside it id have a long soft pci riser going all the way across the mobo and then turning back on itself to connect to the gpu

>>58922844
nigger-rig it inside the case and just take a vga cable from there out the closest hole

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>>58922844
danm, other way around
fuck it, heres the mobo
i need something inverted to make it easy

Stupid question but is the 12v atx supposed to pass over my gpu.
I mean how do you guy cable manage it?
It not long enough to pass it behind the case

>>58922903
if its on the top of the mobo, go under the mobo
if its on the side you should really have room to go around the gpu at least

if all else fails, buy a 24 pin extension cable

anyone link me to the forum where the guy tried to delid a chip, ripped transistors off then soldered em back on

>>58922874
there are no inverted mobos any more.

just cut out the backplate/IO shit on the case and put in the mobo and put in some DIY support bracket for the GPU

>>58922903
Why did you buy a shit tier PSU?
But you can do that yes. Or buy extension cable.

>>58922929
>24pin
niggah the ATX12v is 4-8 pins

>>58922929
Nah man my Im talking about the 8pin(4+4) atx and the mobo has is on top
>>58922942
Its this one
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194034
Come on man not that shit tier

>>58922942
oh shit im retarded
either way, extension cable

in that case then, if its on the left side just go under the gpu, if its above the socket still go under the mobo

>>58922965
Are those extension cables safe?Because I heard of exploding molex to sata.

>>58922961
eh, guess it's just a bit old. nowadays almost everyone makes longer PSU cables because bottom-mounting became super popular.

can you take pic to show where you're trying to route it behind the mobo but ending up short?

>>58922992
>Because I heard of exploding molex to sata.
those are a bit different than a simple extension for 4+4pin ATX cables...
just dont buy some cheap chink shit and you will be fine.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZjD6m8
Should I replace anything with a cheaper option?

so I have an old prebuilt HP computer with an added GTX 560, 120SSD, and 8GB ram with the original 6gb in a drawer, it's been sitting around forever so i'm trying to decide what to do with it, and my mom's old laptop just died so i need your opinions

>Option A: wipe the 1TB drive it came with, take out my GTX 560 and put the 6gb ram back in, build myself a little HTPC for some streaming / basic couch gaming, give my mom the old PC.
>Option B: Build her a new low end budget PC (she doesnt want to spend over $200, we're poor). Keep the prebuilt with the atx mobo as is, maybe move it to a nicer looking case than the ugly HP garbage

thoughts? i'm bad at decision making

>>58921808

i7 & 1070

get a better cheaper GPU towards the end of the year

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>>58923024
Hard to take a pic of mine now maybe tommorow but heres the case
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112251

>>58922992

running 8pin/24pin extensions here for multiple years on multiple rigs, no problems. get some quality ones like bitfenix if you're scared of explosions and want some aesthetics but decent non chink shit ones will be adequate

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>>58923067
you cant reach this way behind the plate and up and out in that top hole?

>>58923097
Tried it.
It just need a little bit more cable

>>58923053
>we're poor
Option A. Your mum will thank you.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202226
fucking americlaps I have to pay 240 euro for that

>>58922512

what is there to 'fuck with' in a c2d machine?

>>58923172
refer to >>58922844
proprietary formats and a lot more work than just sticking parts together

What case fans should I get?
I want positive air pressure but very little noise. I need two front ones, and I want them to be white or black.

Case is CM n200.

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>>58922844

i have this shitty ibm thinkcentre i mite try and rig into my spare nzxt case for bants

pic related

>>58923210

seems pretty pointless desu.

>>58921808
GPUs tend to have a shorter life cycle in general, so it is better to get the best CPU for the money you can afford, as it will last you through a number of builds.

>>58923221
do it

mine was an matx format, this is an older picture before i made the water cooling loop
the 280x later killed everything (i think) and i had to toss it

>>58923029
you should replace that bomb disguised as a PSU

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/j3pq7h

>>58923124
over the mobo works until you can get an extension, i wouldnt want a cable there permanently risking getting into a fan or something.

>>58923211
beQuiet

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>>58923257
>>58923221
forgot the pic of course

>>58923227
its fun, drop 50-60$ to get a shitty 775 system up to decent performance, then later turn it into a modern system

>>58923261
this bad boy?

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>>58923257

not the most powerful, bought it off ebay for 20 quid to run as an irc bot server and ran the fucker for a good year straight 24/7 365 no downtime with no fans on the thing so im surprised it didnt blow up. could prolly throw some small linux on it but i have no purpose for it although playing with hardware is fun.

>>58923261
What do you recommend for a alternative?

>>58923298
check the part list i linked you tard

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>>58923293
>>58923261
forgot pic

>>58923294
i'd fix that mobo temp unless it's broken sensor or incorrect reading

>>58923316
yeah. fractal also has some alright quiet fans
but the best would be something like noctua industrial with a fan controller on low setting

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>>58923319

is indeed broken temp sensor, cpu was giving 115c readouts 24/7

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>>58915998
I have a sound question. There's a game that DEMANDS Direct X 11 sound, but I can't figure out for the life of me how to figure out how Direct X even relates to sound at all. When you run the dxdiag tool all it says is the driver version is 6.something, which tells me exactly nothing. I can see what version of Direct X my graphics card uses easily, but is Direct X sound even a thing? I've scoured google and can't find even one explanation of how to figure out this bullshit.

>>58923355
99% of the time you dont have to worry about it unless you have a PC that's older than a decade.

>>58923376
It is. I'm looking to buy a newer one. But I'd still like to know what the fuck I'm looking it. It's bewildering that I can't find a good explanation of this anywhere.

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>people are actually buying Rosewill PSUs according to pcpartpicker

>>58923388
it's just a driver/API hook between DirectX and your soundcard for audio shit and is included with DirectX of the same version number.

>>58923448
>the same version number
As what? That's the question. As the number? Surely it's not Direct X 6.something. As the graphics card (they're both onboard)?

>>58923391

i've got two of them second hand, both are fine.

been considering the modular photon next time around.

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>>58923679
>rosewill units are fine
just because a downy can walk doesnt mean it's fine

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it's really ASSEMBLY, not building

>>58923735
too bad no one but you uses that term


>>>/autism/

Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply for $69.99 (after rebate) worth it?

>>58923519
Nobody have an answer to this? It doesn't literally mean Direct X version 6 does it? That would be insane.

>>58923948
definitely
those toughpower units are good shit and for 70$ thats a breddy gud deel

>>58924004
Alright heading to my local frys tomorrow before work, thanks anony.

>>58924083
>>58923948
>anony
i told you the same yesterday

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>remove stick of ram
>games stop freezing
Any explanation or just ghosts in the electronics?

>>58924292
the fucking ram stick is broken you tard

1080 or 1440 for non-gaming uses?

>>58924341
bigger

>>58924341
Big 1080 or tiny 1440 for poorfag purposes?

>>58924387
>Big 1080 or tiny 1440
>poorfag purposes
what?

>>58924387
1080 starts looking bad if you go too big

>>58924416
Thanks anon, helped me decide what to buy.

>>58921808
>1070 - $650
>1080 - $1000

jesus fuck what country is this

>>58924601
novidya kikes.

just wait for Vega this spring.

>>58924601

honestly probably australia

the 1070 is still worth it in my opinion but the 1080, not by a mile - they're just able to do that because there's literally no competition

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DQ4KGf
r8 muh build
Built with gaming in mind
I was hoping to keep it under $575, but failed. Any modifications to the build would need to reduce the price. Any suggestions?

>>58924661
why the fuck would you buy that old piece of shit whenAND is releasing a whole new CPU architecture in 2 weeks?

>>58924687
wait nvm im fucking retarded. how the fuck did i misread that bad.

>>58924703
What old piece of shit?

>>58924661

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gp8WPs

>>58924306
But it's brand new
It has the red heatspreader of quality assurance still in tact

>>58924661
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KvW2TH

>>58924714
somehow i thought u had an AMD cpu in that list

>>58924733
>things cant break during shipping
tard.

NEW THREAD

>>58924746

>>58924745
replace RAM with this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vW4NnQ/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m2a2400c16r

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>>58924745

>200 series mobo

>>58924733
top meme. could have been DOA or you didn't seat it properly, ect.

>>58924776
go shitpost somewhere else

>>58923355
>>58923376
A decade old PC should work with dx11 natively as long as it sport a pci-e gpu

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gonna hit yes on this fucker soon.

I know I'll have fans left over. I wanna see what I can get in the Core 500, leftovers can go in other machines.

Putting a GTX980 in there for now, until the 1080ti comes.

Kindahype.

>>58922398
well it only crashes when it gets to the "starting windows" screen so it has got to the fucking os