/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>58903589
Take this thread to /wsr/

>>>/wsr/265044
>>>/wsr/265044
>>>/wsr/265044
>>>/wsr/265044

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>>58903629
>>58903675
Nice try, nigger. This is never going to happen.

>>58903772
OP, it is going to happen if you grow up and be responsible.
Next time create your thread in /wsr/ and link to it.

>>58903795
Dream on, retard.

Windows 7 good with Kaby Lake? Or too early to tell?

>>58904029
Kaby Lake and Ryzen are Windows 10 supported only

Monitor dilemma:

1080p 144Hz iSP with Freesync (RX 480) OR

1440p 60Hz iSP with NO G-sync (GTX 1070)

>>58904119
definitely go for the higher refresh rate one, the resolution isn't as drastic of a difference as the refresh rate is

>>58904156
Thanks, should I pair it with a RX 480 or a GTX 1070?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JnHHr7

>>58904065
Wrong, Intel just released kaby IGPU drivers for Win7.

>>58904278
z270 are for overclocking, go with something cheaper and 500w/550w will be ample for your build, go with a supernova 550w g2 or g3

>>58904278
Also you could find a motherboard with wifi already integrated into it.

I have an fx-8320e and was thinking of getting a gtx 1080 soon, but was unsure of the PSU requirements. Do I need to get a 750w PSU or can i drop it down to a 700w PSU? I cant decide between The EVGA 700w B1 or EVGA 750W B1 Supernova.

>>58904432
Punch in all the hardware in pcpartpicker it will calculate the wattage, I doubt you'll need 750w for a 1080 unless your doing SLI

>>58904486
I punched it into the coolermaster psu calculator and it recommended me a coolermaster 550w psu 80+ Bronze. Should I just get a 600w 80+ instead. Not doing OC or SLI, but i might switch to intel I7 cpus later as well.

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What do you guys think? Could have this sucker running in 45 minutes.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jm9k8K
How's it look?

>>58904065
>>58904357
See, the entire internet is filled with conflicting reports about this issue.

In what situation do i need water cooling? Only if im overclocking?
>inb4 >>58895949
See >>58904522

>>58904589
Congrats 1 (you) has been deposited into your account

>>58904649
You don't. Water cooling is completely optional and only "needed" if you want some ridiculous OC.
Stick to good air cooling, which is also cheaper, and you're good.

>>58904673
What exactly is wrong with it? The case is ATX because I got it at a very good discount, the CPU is higher end because I do more CPU intensive tasks like emulating, or rendering videos, more than GPU intensive tasks.

>>58904722
Nothing, considering the fact that you didnt state what you were planning using it for OR your budget

>>58904589
Why a babby mobo for a normal tower?

>>58904589
Looks fine if thats what you want, you could get higher frequency ram, but I doubt you'll see the difference. I'd recommended a better psu, something gold certified and fully modular.

>>58904589
Poo poo msi gay shit. Find a better manufacturer like gigabyte or evga

>>58904542
550w should be good

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For this budget (~550€) is there anything I should change? Already have an m2 SSD which is enough for me.

I suppose waiting for Ryzen won't matter for me, right?

>>58904843
Ryzen will matter possibly because price cuts

>>58904857
Don't be ridiculous, Intel don't drop prices. They don't give any fucks.

>>58904857
yeah but we're talking about a 60€ CPU, it won't go lower than that will it?

>>58904704
Is three of these fans fine, plus 2 fans included in the case?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181107&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>>58904843
Dude, I don't even have to search up that mobo to know it doesn't run ram at 3000mhz, get 2x8gb @ 2400mhz for dual channel, you'll get better performance then one stick of 16gb. Also the mobo will require an update to use kaby, get a 200 series for hassle free.

>>58904877
Saying its a pentium, now i realise that i am retarted and intel wont lower prices for it

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What do you guys think of my build?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XY4Hr7

Would this thing catch on fire? Mine would be in white with black trim btw.

>>58904882
Overpriced shitty meme fan, get Noctuas or this: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA68V21E0614

>>58904119
Depends on type of game you play. I'd rather Skyrim or The Witcher 3 at 1440p, but if you're playing a shooter or car racing game then to 1080p 144hz.

>>58904919
>Case is $220
Really anon? You could find some around $100 that are much nicer

>>58904898
I know about the BIOS update, if it doesn't come updated a friend is willing to do it for me free of charge so it's fine.

I chose 3000Mhz memory because I want to re-use it in an eventual future build when I have more money, especially after hearing everyone say RAM prices will go up in the future. Is it really a bad choice?
It's also because of "future-proofing" that I chose 1 stick instead of 2.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/BhVxtJ

any feedback? Wanted to put together something a bit different for the new build.

Recommend me a hard drive that isnt noisy, pricy as hell and at least 500GB

>>58904947
I've seen this case in person, unless that case is an aluminum case made by Phantek it will not get any better. This case is higher quality than other Lian Li cases.

>>58904999
Fractal Design S. $60. Steel case. 9 places for fans. Water cooling compatibility.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352054

>>58905041
Let's just start over and ignore the case.

>>58904919
Too lazy to research anything AMD related.
You put custom parts so i cant tell you if your PSU is good enough

>>58904919
>AMD
>Ryzen
Okay Pajeet, no one gives a fuck about AMD.

>>58905247
>t. scared intel shill

>>58904919
AM4 ITX boards won't be here until at least June, most likely only around September with the launch of APUs. And keep in mind there's only one company interested in making them, which is fucking Biostar

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>tfw video game console assembly general thread still going strong

Guys should I install Windows 10 Enterprise ltsb? Is it good for gaming and shitposting?
Advice pls

>>58905329
>scared by fake benches and shit single thread speeds
lol okay Pajeet.

>>58906055
Install gentoo.

>>58906055
IDK it doesn't come with DirectX12 but I heard you can download that separately.

>>58906064
>fake benches
>can't prove it
>Ryzen competing with i7-6900K
>for half the price
Yep. Intel shills are scared shitless.

>>58906119
lol wtf you can't prove its real benches, lets wait until people get official benches before we decide.

>>58906080
>DirectX12
Is this a new memes or what? Can 1070s able to run a game with dx12?

Hey /g/ time to make yourself useful.

I am building a shitbox dual Opteron workstation for fun and profit. The board I am using requires ATX 24 pin power, EPS 12V and P4 power connectors.

I have one PSU with 24pin + P4 and one with 24pin + EPS 12V. I also have 2xmolex->eps12v cable.

However...

The board does not boot with 24pin + P4 + molex adaptor, but does with 24pin + EPS but no P4 plugged in. I suspect that the molex adaptor simply does not output 12V required for the board to boot on PWR signal.

Do you think that it is safe to use the board with P4 unplugged? Or maybe there is some witchery needed to force the board to boot with the molex adaptor?

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>>58903795
>grow up and be responsible.
>>58903859
>Dream on, retard.
If I ever see a /v/ toddler in real life I'll beat the shit out of that little faggot.

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>>58906379
>t. tough 12 year old autistic kid

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can you give me a your opinion if i should get the gtx 1060 6gb or the radeon rx 480? and which version of it? what are advantages or disadvantages? im not a tech pro if this is important

>>58906639
They're basically the same, the 1060 was 5% better in most games at launch time, now with updates the RX480 is 5% better in most games

>>58906639
Depends on where you live. If you're a burger then the 480 is cheaper. They're pretty much identical performance-wise.

How does this look? Will be replacing the 780 with a 1070 soon soon and will be considering an SSD if I can find one for m.2

>>58906662
i am a german and the 480 is like 50 dollars cheaper here.

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>>58906677
Forgot image

>>58906639
Whichever is cheaper.
Nvidia brands: PNY, Asus, MSI, Palit/Gainward, Zotac, EVGA.
AMD brands: XFX, Asus, MSI, Sapphire.

>>58906701
are the brand important? which ones do u like?

>>58906717
All the brands listed are ok and perfectly fine. Imho get the cheapest.

>>58906726
ok thank you my man

Is it worth waiting for VEGA if I plan to buy an rx480?

>>58906726
Is gigabyte any good?

>>58905041
are there any case like it that also have a tempered glass window? I wouldn't mind the acrylic but they,re so easy to scratch and cheap looking...The define S is basically the perfect case to buy if you dont care about aesthetics but I do want to have the option to see inside and potentially go down the RGB meme hole.

>>58906783
For Nvidia decent, for AMD shit.

>>58904228
In 1080p the 480 will be great with 144hz
1070 would be a little overkill but you could 100% max out any game
Expect to lose some stuff like ultra high aa or post fx effects
If those are important to you, then do the 1070
In 1080p you can get away with the 4gb 480 to save a few bucks

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>>58906417
>t. kissless fat basement dwelling gaymer manchild

>>58906825
480 can barely pass 60fps at 1080p in most games

>>58906818
I got their windforce 1070 OC while it was cheap

Any reason not to get Asus strix 1070?

>>58904542
I say go 600w for future upgrade potential
Or stick to 550w and use the bit of saved cash to get a more effecient rating like 80+ gold
Less heat, longer psu lifespan

Dunno if this shoukd go on /sqt/ but can I update a bluetooth adapter (for example Bluetooth 4.2 to Bluetooth 5)?
This is the adapter I'm planning on getting: https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16813995032

>>58906881
No pretty sure that's all hardware based

>>58904589
Get a smaller case and a better psu
You got tiny parts (minus the 212), only fitting to put it in a small case

Mini itx if you dont mind a compact ez bake oven, micro atx for added airflow and drive space
Make sure to take cooler height into account

>>58904649
High oc's and hot chips
Or if you like the looks

An fx 9590 and multi card 390x system absolutely requires water cooling

A modern intel chip with a reasonable oc and lower wattage gpus dont really need it
Though an AIO doesnt hurt on the cpu for overclocking
But a nice air cooler will also give great performance

>>58906779
im not an expert but vega will cost like 350, so i guess no.

>>58906865
Way more expensive than other models with the exact see performance. Slightly better cooling doesn't matter when they're all hard limited to 2150mhz.

>>58906779
RX 480 8GB can be had now for $180. You might do well just to get one right now then maybe upgrade later.

>>58906368
Whatever the molex is on may not be able to push enough power
Running one cpu with limited power may be an issue if you ever max it out
I suggest getting a psu with the right connectors, molex adapaters can be dangerous, although rare, they can fail or cause component damag

>>58906942
So what model do you recommend? No MSI please

i am in search for a simple, grey pc case. like the pc cases used to look 20 years ago. are there any good ones on the market which are cheap.
most of todays cases look like XxGAMingstarxX cases which i find redicoulus

>>58906639
About the same
Pick whichever is cheapest

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8TDt4C

/g/ I'm trying to micro manage the FUCK out of this.

I'm not buying this personally but I would like to make the most absolute cost efficient computer while maintaining some degree of playablility with modern games.

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>>58906836
>triggered
Nice autism you retarded child.

>>58906962
>xxgamingstarxx
This isnt 2012 with your cod quickscoping anon

>>58906953
here in canada they're 350$ which converts to 260$USD

They're kind of overpriced for some reason and I dont know why so I'm waiting since they're fairly new still. I'm only doing 1080p so either I'll get a cheaper 480 in 8-10 months or I'll get the new thing at that point for current 480 prices..

>>58906975
>while maintaining some degree of playability with modern games.
I'd get 8gb of ram at least. Windows 7+palemoon+war thunder uses 5gb

>>58906962
Depending on how dedicated you are to this you can try building a sleeper pc. Basically grab a case from the 90s and build a modern PC in it.

>>58907017
Here you go faggot:

https://slickdeals.net/f/9757544-powercolor-red-devil-radeon-rx-480-8gb-gddr5-video-card-186-or-less-after-20-rebate?src=catpagev2

I'm sure they will ship to Canada, I mean if I can buy Russian watches shipped from Russia there shouldn't be a problem for Real America to ship to our own tophat.

>>58907061
You'd be surprised how many shops don't ship to Canada, guess it's too much hassle.

What is the cheapest case that I could go for a ryzen build?
I don't care if it look like shit, just that get the work done.

>>58906962
eBay still has a category for beige cases

http://www.ebay.com/sch/Beige-Computer-Cases/42014/bn_635867/i.html

>>58907090
A used pizza box.

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>>58907090
Jesus christ do you people not know how to search up the most basic shit.

>>58907040
is this difficult? would the on/off switch connect to a modern motherborad?

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>>58907154
Late 1990s already had ATX

I have a build inside an old Chieftec Dragon from around 2001. No problem at all.

Built like a tank from solid steel. Weight 12kg.

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>>58903589
Can I save that pic? I like it very much.

With Zen coming out soon, you're all retards for building now.

>>58907135
I like your idea but I think I will spend a little more on a ATX size box site instead.
>>58907151
Not american desu~
I was looking for a case thats a little more knowed so I can find it in my country.

>>58907135
Not joking but i'm considering this idea...

>>58907061
Speaking of which, they don't ship to Canada

http://www.microcenter.com/site/customer-support/faqs.aspx

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IT COULD ACTUALLY FUCKING WORK!!!

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>>58907265
Anon you could also do this with a broken microwave

>>58907275
Pizza box = FREE
broken microwave = Don't have one...
The pizza box could make the difference in my budget rig.

>>58907202
Brand name cases will always be more expensive than whatever cheap OEM shit your country imports.

Bitfenix Nova
Deepcool Tesseract

These are the cheaper ones that are well known, and aren't utter crap.

>>58907304
>Bitfenix Nova
>Deepcool Tesseract
Add Thermaltake Versa H15/H25 and also Cooler Master N200/300.

>>58907304
>>58907338
Thanks! Thats a good point to start on.

>>58907338
Those are more expensive, but yea, why not.

>>58907338
thermaltake versa h25 is a piece of junk. the power button isnt an actual switch and died on me in 6 months.

>>58907061
>>58907087
>>58907249
yeah I thought about "importing" but it's hard to know exactly how much you'll end up paying after taxes and duties and other tariffs.

There really is a canadian premium for some weird reason but unless you can find a friend in the US or a US PO box you can drive to by yourself, there's not much to do about it. Just driving to the border would basically negate the savings from using a PO box if you dont use it often.

Asus H110M-C/CSM Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard

How is this for a budget Mobo?

>>58907471
Wait a minute you fucking leaf, your faggot prime minister was getting on our President about tariffs. When he was tariffing you idiots out the ass? Lol this is fucking classic.

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I need help, /g/. I've never built a PC before but I've been saving up for one. My budget is $1,000. I am a gamer and I would like the best gaming build for this price. Please /g/, help me.

I have no darn clue where to start...

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how is this mobo for overclocking and for a new kaby lake build?

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>>58907690
Get a Mac Pro nerd.

>>58907717
No.

>>58907689
yes I am directly responsible for my prime minister's action thank you for reminding me

>>58907690
Need a monitor?

how is this for a base to build/upgrade on to for a fag that's too scared to build his own?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883230178

>inb4 build your own

>>58907690
Wait for ryzen
Also you should give money :DDDDD

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>>58907747
No, just keyboard and mouse. It can be a serviceable kb/m, nothing too fancy.

>>58907690
Wait for ryzen, and while you wait, try and learn about pc building, follow the links in the OP and lurk this thread for a while.

>>58907750
It's pretty good for a prebuilt. However becareful with Cyber power.

I literally bought a prebuilt from them and it came to me bricked. I just got the refund.

Also do your self a BIG favor and buy a real mouse and keyboard when you get it. It's worse than chink tier. The mouse is awkward to use and shaped funny.

>>58907799
Alright thanks. I know this will sound stupid but I *can* upgrade this, like the ram, videocard, motherboard and such? Given it arrives in serviceable condition.

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I asked /v/ whether it was possible for a console pleb to play Witcher 3 on PC with a $300 gaming build.

I'm a console pleb and I want to revolt, but I don't want to spend a lot of money.

>>58907830
Stick to console gaming, faggot.

>>58907830
use a pizza box to save money :DDDDD

>>58907770
Starting point: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DrjmWX

>assemble new $1300 build
>it doesn't power on

I feel like the floor fell out from under me

There could be 100 things wrong, I'll never pinpoint it.

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>>58907869
>2$ over my budget

[spoiler]I jest.[/spoiler]

Thank you for taking the time to do this, anon.

>>58907877
Is it plugged in?

>>58907824
For the most part it should be good for a couple of years.

In fact you probably won't need to upgrade anything for a while besides the video card. You might also want to add more Ram in a year or two and since there are only 2 Ram slots you would have to buy two 8GB ram sticks.

But again 8 is good for now.

>>58903629
>>58903675
Care explaining why this computer building thread belongs on Worksafe Requests rather than Technology?

>>58907869
>anon doesn't know how to build a computer
>build him an enthusiasts overclocking machine

>>58907877
>There could be 100 things wrong

No power is PSU or mobo, bretty sure.

>>58907898
Thanks man. *tickles your prostate*

>>58907886
>>58907869
You could lose the meme keyboard/mouse and buy a stock one. They aren't that bad.

>>58907905
>has $1k
>price a $1k build

Fuck off.

>>58907911
Cuck faggot

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>>58907911
b-but I poop from there...

>>58903589
Kill yourself.

>>58907924
>>58907926
*fingers your anuse holes...*

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what can i expect out of something like this
>core2duo e6700
>1g evga gt 710
>3gb of ddr2
i got a 200w psu to work with, hence the gt 710
i know its fucking terrible, im not retarded, if i had the 60w, i would have tossed my single slot 750ti in this bitch in a heartbeat


this is all going in an hp dc 7700 ultra slim desktop
(hence the 200w psu limitation)
a quick mockup in pcpartpicker showed a 140w maximum power draw, and i know those are overestimates and simulate 100% component strain, so i should be good to not rape the psu

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>>58907935
>holes
>hole(s)

>>58907943
I have a big peni if you want it....

>>58903589
Can you guys rate my pc?

AMD 6 core @3.5ghz
2x g.skill ripjaw 8gb RAM
512gb mushkin ssd
radeon rx480 8gb
500w evga psu

>>58907992
I rate it a 37

>>58907996
>Can you guys rate my pc?
sweet. i was going for 38, but thatll do

>>58907922
No you fuck off, anon can't even search up how to build a computer, do you really expect him to fully use an overclockable system?

Here, he can even use the extra cash to buy a 1070, he could even save more by going with a cheaper mobo.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/r3T2TH

>>58907690
Logicalincrements.com
Account for the cost of peripherals

>>58907992
Standard middle high tier PC.

But I didn't know rx480 could run off 500W?

>>58908035
i thought it uses max 150w? pcpartpicker says whole build will be ~350w.. how many watts do i need?

>>58908028
>overclockable
You're a stupid sack of shit. He wants to spend a grand.

>>58908035
Even the crazy shit thats not a fury x or 280x crossfire can be run comfy on 500w
Technically you can run an i5 6500 and gtx 1070 on a 450w psu
Is that reccomended? Hell no
Headroom is left to keep effeciency up, heat down and lifespan long

>>58908050
No your probably good. I just got thrashed last time for suggesting a 500W but I think it was a troll.

>>58908050
100w over your requirement
So a 450w psu
Refer to >>58908066

>>58908069
It always is a troll. People somehow think 750W is the base line, but that's complete bullshit.

>>58908066
How much headroom is recommended? like 120W surplus?

>>58908028
>don't spend up to your budget on a solid system that can be incrementalky improved, spend $150 less on the product of my PCPP jerk-off session that will struggle to run solitaire in a year

>>58908080
650w and 550w PSUs come in many different brands, good deals and have many reviews, don't go for a no name chink brand just so you can "match" your PSU and have just barely enough. Get the good deal from the good brand, even if it's overkill

>>58908080
pretty much
any 80+ psu of around 450-500w will fit your needs just fine
make sure its a reputable brand that has good reviews, corsairs cxm line is good for low wattage stuff, evga's low tier stuff is kinda meh, but not bad by any means
seasonic is worth the extra price premium compared to other low wattage options simply due to their quality and fantastic warranty if shit hits the fan

it doesnt hurt to get a 600w psu or something if you intend to do upgrades in the future, like crossfire or overclocking

>>58908142
so is 5-600w low wattage?
is my evga 500w good? is it ok?

>>58908155
not him but my EVGA 500W doesn't even work for some reason.

>>58908142
Corsair CX line is trash

>>58908155
it will work just fine
generally 500w and lower is considered low wattage, its not a power hungry system and doesnt need anything higher wattage
750w and higher is generally for sli/crosfire or heavy overclocking

i personally dislike evga's budget psu lineup, they have alot of dead on arrival reviews, and for the cost you can drop 10$ more and get a decent corsair or seasonic unit

>>58908199
Yeah I got one of those dead on arrival ones. Never using Jewegg or EVGA again

Is GTX1050ti an acceptable replacement for HD7850? Not really looking for a real boost in performance.

>>58908061
It's not because he has one grand to spend that he has to spend it all you stupid cunt.
>>58908115
>muh incrementally improved
By the time he'll have to "improve" anything it'll will probably be obsolete, a 6500 with an 1070 will probably last him 5+ years.

>>58908222
bit less power, bit more vram, bit more performance
yeah, definitely a good replacement
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=323&cmp%5B%5D=3595

>>58908264
>>58908222

I think it's a complete waste of money for barely an upgrade.

http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7850-vs-GeForce-GTX-1050-Ti

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Any tips for routing USB 3.0 cables? I swear, those things are the worst things to manage in any modern system.

What would be the best build I could make for around ~650 USD? OK if it goes to like 660 or something, but no more than 660.

pls respond

>>58908431
Read the OP you dumb nigger.

>>58908442
OK what now?

>>58908431
Pentium G4560 build

>>58907877
>>58907908
Welp, it's surprisingly not the PSU...

God damn it, it's going to be something extremely stupid, isn't it?

;_;

>>58908484
Do not cry, you're a good guy. You can do it anon.

>>58908484
i have the same thing happening to me right now if you find out pls say so i can not kill myself

>>58908484
power button plugged in? the right way? is the psu turned on (if it has a switch)? there aren't that many things to check for if it doesn't turn on at all

>>58908385
The ones I have are the flat ribbon-type which I tie together with my SATA cables (which happens to be the same thickness). Take the longest possible route to reach the USB3.0 header if yours is on the side of the motherboard, but if it's on the bottom, you need to take the direct route down and hopefully squeeze it between your motherboard and standoffs.

>tfw no Fracxtal Design Define S with Tempered glass
>none of the tempered glass cases below 150$ have great airflow and cable management

if i just finish making a pc and the mobo and all lights up/fans spin, but then stop and restarts( i think for the boot sequence or w/e) and never shows video, is that a psu problem or mobo problem? the lights and fans stay on after the reset

>>58908612
>video

Are the GPU fans spinning? Check the power cables to it.

>>58908659
before the stop/restart part it spins normally, afterwards it twitches? like it will spin a little bit and stop and keep doing that. as far as cables ive triple quadruple checked them and they are all the way plugged in

>>58908689
Check your RAM. Take them all the way out and make sure they're all seated nice and level, properly.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487320&cm_re=evga_icx-_-14-487-320-_-Product
or
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487321&cm_re=evga_icx-_-14-487-321-_-Product

or a different 1070?

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US. Any idea how much performance I'm going to get out of this? Are there cheaper or equal priced parts that offer better performance? Are there pre-builts cheaper and better than this?

>>58908938
The CPU is outdated, wait for Ryzen

>>58908938
Get an RX 480 8GB. Better performance.

Also, get 2 sticks of ram for dual channel

I would go with an intel based build, such as a i5-6500 or i5-6600k, depending on whether you want to overclock

How do I into cable management?

>>58908985
I was looking at cpu benchmarks and the amd was better than that i5, are these scores accurate?

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>tfw waiting for my 16GB RAM upgrade

How bad is it if you can't get your modular psu cables to lock all the way into the psu? I have a Corsair rm750x and everything apart from the piece of shit 24 pin went in without trouble, but boy is that one a pain in the ass.
I managed to get the motherboard side in after I took it out of the case and applied a great deal of force on it, but now it turns out that the other end doesn't want to pay ball either.
I've managed to push the split psu ends like 99% in, but they're refusing to go in any further and my fingers hurt like hell from the sharp edges.
It seems kind of tight, but is it safe to leave it like that, or is there a chance that it'll somehow work itself loose due to vibration over time, or some shit?

>>58903589
Built my first pc not too long ago and I was wondering what I should upgrade first. I didn't have much money so I had to cut some corners.

Antec VP-450 Power supply
AMD FX-6300
Seagate 1TB
Gigabyte AM3+ GA-78LMT Motherboard
GeForce GT 730
Cruicial Ballistix 4gb ram

>>58908880
>58908880
bump

>>58909171
Is there anything in particular you want? What do you use it for?

What's the best extremely low end mobo / processor combo? My mom's old laptop took a shit and she asked me to find her a new PC at my work, but I figured i could just build a nice little desktop with pirated win7 on it for cheaper. I have extra ram lying around and I can get a psu for cheap. She's just going to be facebooking and printing documents.

should I both with an i7-7700 if all I do is play games? the i5-6600 is 100 dollary doos cheaper

>>58909198
I feel like since i've built it that it struggles with multi tasking like listening to music, playing a game and still have a browser open underneath

>>58909206
>I have extra ram lying around
DDR3 or DDR4?

>>58908797
tried it no change

>>58909218
Get another stick of 4gb ram, maybe look into getting a better gpu, that's about all you can really do.

>>58909259
Any gpu you would recommend? Thanks

>>58909115
Multi core might be similar, but single core is drastically in favor of the i5, especially if you OC it. Single core is more relevant for gaming, which I assume you want a custom pc for.

H170 Mobo
i7 6700
1070 SC
16G of 3200mhz Ram

>Mobo wont let me clock ram past 2133
How big of a loss is this? Worth the money to upgrade mobo?

>>58909274
RX 470 or GTX 1050, it'll probably bottleneck with that CPU however.

>>58909171
Whats your budget?

Go for another 4g of RAM in dual channel if your mobo supports it. (will fix multitasking)

If you play AAA titles and want better visuals you could check something like craigslist for a cheap gpu upgrade.

>>58909306
It's fine. Not going to affect gaming really, since your gpu and its ram is the main factor. I doubt it's worth the money to upgrade

>>58909306
Did you buy it or get it for free? Only modos that support 3200mhz that i know of is z170.
>Worth the money to upgrade mobo?
Not really, you'll only see a marginal upgrade in performance.

>>58909317
i have rx480 and fx-6300, how bad is bottleneck?

>>58909206
Something like a pentium G4400 and a msi h81i mini itx board could work well.

>>58909336
>>58909352
Bought it. I was upgrading ram either way, and the 3200 was the same as lower clocked sticks for some reason. I was too dumb to make sure it was supported.

It should be fine running at a lower clock speed though right?

>>58909378
If im not mistaken, any ram can be OC'ed to any speed. I believe the mhz they specify for the sticks are related to their thermal capacity. Underclocking is completely harmless

>>58909378
>I was too dumb to make sure it was supported.
If it was the same price then it doesn't even matter, it should be fine.

Cases and Chassis

Do I go get the thermal take W100, W200 or do I tell thermaltake to fuck themselves because they stole caselabs designs and get an equivalent caselabs?

Btw a caselabs here is about 1100 bucks compared to the W200's 450 and W100's 350.

Yes I plan on doing insane water cooling, but adding things slowly over time

>>58909365
The best way to know would probably be benchmarking your system and comparing it to ones posted online using the same software. Post results if you do.

>>58908880
They're all pretty similar. Read about their specific attributes (fan noise, OC, etc) and choose what you want.

>>58909365
I remember reading about a situation like this a while back. Guy mentioned like 20-50% for most things, but I don't have source so take that with a grain of salt.

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>>58903589
Since I haven't seen any other general computer buying threads, I figured this is the closest thing.

So I need an on-the-go computer/tablet for notes and drawing, I'm not a fan of stand alone graphics tablets, and carrying one device is so much easier when sketching and note taking on the go.
I'm using an i5 x220 tablet and it's decent, but it's heavy as fuck as a tablet, gets really hot, 2.5 hour battery life, chugs in basic Photoshop and clip studio tasks, and the motherboard has had some issues and I'm ready to retire the thing.
With a budget of around $450-$500 (trying to come as low under that as possible), I'm trying to find something with a 1080p or better display, wacom digitizer (n-trig digitizers, like on the surface pro 3 and dell tablets, have a fair number of issues), and is able to run Photoshop CC nicely.
Right now I'm looking at the Surface Pro 2 or a thinkpad helix, they're reasonably priced and use wacom digitizers, but the size and lack of repairability of the SP2 and the performance of the helix concern me.
>Anyone know of any better devices with built-in digitizers that meet these criteria without being TOO cheap?
The cube i7 is also out since it's a non-serviceable tablet with almost no company support, so if something happens, there's not a lot that can be done.

>>58909209
a 6600k or 7600k is more cost efficient for gaming, since gaming is most single/dual core dependent

>>58909390
Didn't know any ram could be OC'd that's pretty interesting. I thought about throwing in my previous 8gb stick just because its already a 2133 clock, but it breaks the dual channel and who the fuck needs 24g ram?

>>58909433
surface pro 3 is a huge improvement over the previous versions for drawing

>>58909451
You can flex your epeen in speccy threads

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>>58909469
n-trig digitizers has line wobble at low speeds and the odd pressure curves

I am planning on getting a Fractal Design Define S which has 2 build in fans, and an extra 3 fans. My mobo (ASUS Prime Z270 A) only has 2 chassi fan connectors. Should I get a splitter or a fan controller?

>>58909625
You're a tool if you manually control your fans.

>>58909692
Who said i was planning on manually controlling them headass? Some cases (not mine) have built-in fan controllers that are controlled by the mobo fan header

Getting my tax refund on Monday, going to buy a 1070. What monitor would /pcbg/ recommend? (My current one is only 1080p, 60hz and I know the 1070 is overkill for 1080p.) My current gpu (Asus 1060 3gb) will go into my spare pc.

>>58909692

i manually control my fans. my motherboard doesn't allow me to turn off fans individually so i bought a sentry 3. turned my pro5 into a rather quiet piece

>>58903589
won't putting the thermal compound on like that be bad for heat?

>>58909149
It's not going to be that exciting unless you are only running like 4 now

>>58909754
depends on what you're using for. Are you asking for a monitor type or a specific model?

Holy fuuck. Finding parts for your build on a budget is both so easy but so complicated. First you have to find compatible parts. Then you gotta make sure you dont need any WIRES, and if you do, oh man youre fucked if you are a first time builder. Lastly, buying everything, WAITING FOR ALL THE PARTS TO COME IN ONE BY GOD DAMN ONE, and assemnling the piece of crap, only to find out that something is incompatible or broken due to shipping

>>58909847
yeah duh, but if you open the thumbnail you can clearly see this was painted on in ms paint

>>58910225
>Then you gotta make sure you dont need any WIRES
Everything you need should already be included unless you're buying used.

>>58910225
>Find out the parts are incompatible

Using PC part picker and common sense prevents this

>>58909229
DDR3

>>58910266
Mobos sometimes dont have enough chassi fans.

>>58910207
Preferably a monitor higher than 60hz, maybe 144hz?

>>58910428
I'd go with a cheap AMD build for a facebook machine.

>>58910435
Shouldn't the case have those?
>>58910438
Don't know much about 144hz, but I've heard its only super noticeable on reaction based games like fps and racing?

If you do any work on your pc, I highly suggest a Widescreen monitor.

>>58909932
I actually have 16 already. It'll be exciting because I'll be able to compile stuff while keeping everything in RAM.

I currently live in Beijing but I'm considering moving to Shenzhen so I'm holding off on building a computer until I know I'm where I want to be. Transporting a desktop and monitors would be a pain in the ass.

Do I have a lot to gain by waiting until later this year to buy parts? Is there anything I need to be looking out for if I'm living in China?

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>70% price increase during the last 6 months.
Why did RAM become so expensive?

I'm still using my shitty 4-5 year old pre built PC with a gtx 570 and i5 2320. Would a budget PC with a g4560 and gtx 1050ti be better or would it still be the same?

>>58910860
Demand > Supply
Glad I got my 2x8 DDR4 before it started, they've more than doubled in price here since then.

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>>58911588
The GPU would be slightly better, can't really say for the CPU, don't really think it would be worth it. You'd be better saving your coin for a better build.

>>58911722
How about the gtx 1060 3gb? People here have told me to never go for the 3gb but gpu wise it would be a pretty good improvement and it would be the next cheapest card.

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Alright anons, help me out here. I have this build:

G3258 @ 4.2Ghz (isn't stable any higher sadly)
8GB DDR3
HD 7850
240GB SSD (the $50 MemeDian)

I have the following spare parts (from other builds I've made for people and my own):
120GB SSD
Corsair 550W PSU
Core i5-3450
Lots of HDD's.

So, the question is do I buy an Ivy Bridge motherboard and replace my G3258, or just build a new system with the 3450?
(The board does have sata III, ignore the title)

>>58911845
Not that guy, but the G4560 performs a little better in single thread tasks and a little worse in multi-threaded, considering most games utilize more than one thread these days I'd say it's not worth it and you should spend it on a better GPU.

I'd go with the RX470 over the 1060 3GB, it's the highest you can go without without GPU bottlenecking on the G4560, so yours should be around the same.

Hey bros I got two GeForce 8800 GTX in SLI. How rad is my system?

I'm planning on doing a portable desktop build? I was gonna use the fractial design node 202 as a case and I was wondering if the included 450w psu would be enough to power an intel pentium G4560 combined with an rx480 4gb. The recomended wattage is 500w tho.

>>58903589
man whats wrong with you ?

that's just.....

way too much thermal paste

The 'ol "graphics card won't probably be seated no matter how card you push" meme.

Gotta love it.

[suicidal screams]

>>58912601
My next favorite meme after that is the "GPU brace doesn't align with your case screw holes unless two people push with the force of Zeus".

>>58912670
Now cable ties to hold it to the case


LMAO!!!

>>58906252
Well, on Rust I get 40~ FPS while using DX12.
It's experimental though.

>>58912853
wtf
thats pretty shitty
so regarding enterprise ltsb, will it be good for vidya and not intrusive as the other editions?

>>58912870
It's indeed shitty. I was expecting more desu.
For reference I own a ASUS 1070 Turbo, 8GB.
1080p resolution with a 60Hz monitnor.

I haven't tried anything else to be honest, that's the only game that I own (I think?) that is "capable" of DX12. I know there's the GoW and Forza in DX12 on the Winshill store but meh. I won't shill any money towards these games to test it out.

As far as I know, DX12 is still a meme.
Haven't fell for it yet, but I fell for the i6700k.

>display port: no signal

FUCKING BULLSHIT

CARD IS SEATED
EVERYTHING IS PLUGGED IN

I'M GOING TO POOP MY PANTS WITH STEAMY RAGE

THE FUCKING DP CABLE BETTER NOT BE DEAD

>>58913012
Fug, hdmi and DVI to old monitor doesn't work either.

I wonder what obvious thing I'm missing here

>>58913012
Have you put the 12v atx?

>>58913252
Yeah.

My GPU is running (lighting up and fans spinning). HSF is running. MoBo isn't giving me any error LED's. GPU has steady green LED indicating power.

Whatever I find wrong is going to be a massively stupid oversight. I can feel it.

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>>58913339
Hey brah, what's the primary GPU? :^)
>Whatever I find wrong is going to be a massively stupid oversight
Look up if it's not the iGPU picking up first.

>>58913339
>>58913370
Yeah try the mobos HDMI

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>>58913370
>>58913399
I wonder if that was his problem, desu.
It was mine when I've setup my rig.
Felt sooooo dumb.

>>58913399
>>58913370
Ah, fuck me, yeah that was it.

Of course now I'm having trouble getting my bootable USB recognized so down the rabbit hole I continue to go.

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Changed some parts around is this any better?

>>58913514
Windows?You tried rufus usb?

>>58913544
Hyper 212 is garbage and you don't need meme paste, you're not overclocking. Consider Cryorig M9i, it's cheaper, quieter and more effective than the hyper and comes with good paste.

>>58913620
Not the same guy but would the cryorig fit in a matx motherboard?
this one
http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-B250M-DS3H-rev-10#kf

>>58913602
+1 from me, I tried like 3 shit programs to make usb out of ISO before rufus worked

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>>58906379
>If I ever see a /v/ toddler in real life I'll beat the shit out of that little faggot.

Come to the Bronx. Please.

>>58913602
Yeah, used RUFUS.

One of my USB ports was just being retarded.

Now Windows won't recognize my SSD.

It never ends lol

>>58913658
Yeah it's a mini tower cooler so it'll fit all but the tiniest of builds.

>>58913766
thanks

>>58913723
>SATA not plugged into SSD

Yeah that'd about do it.

Let's get this shit started,
>me

>>58913620
Kk thx. Ive got a other build that I might overclocking with a i7 7700k. Would I need a more expensive cooler by then?

My motherboard only has 2 fan headers but I want to connect 3 (including aio pump) how should I fix this?

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>>58913685
I will
And I get to bring friends

does anyone have a link to thread where the guy delidded a chip and ripped the transistors off and managed to solder them back on?

>>58914089

put the aio on one header so it gets full voltage then get a cheap fan splitter on ebay and connect the fans to it just search for 3 or 4 pin fan splitter depending on what fans youre running.

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Anyone else noticing how Phanteks have gone overboard with their fucking computer cases?

The black case has 9 fucking versions and they all cost roughly the same.

>>58914186

HURRR OPTIONS ARE BAD

>>58914186
Aww, poor little sweetykums doesn't know how a manufacturer's product lines is planned out? There there, little boy, let a real woMAN help you understand such a simple fucking thing!

P400 non-silenced variant
>Fonser - Regular Acrylic Window panel
>Tempered Glass - Glass, duh
>Three different LED colors for Svart Tempered Glass

P400S Silenced variant with sound-deadening foam
>Regular non-Windowed Panel
>Fonser - Regular Acrylic Window panel
>Tempered Glass - Glass, duh
>Three different LED colors for Svart Tempered Glass

There there, you silly little boy! Now you understand after a smarter, better gender explains a simple concept to you.

And people wonder why men are so fucking useless

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>>58914262
>she

>>58914262
There are tons of things i choose not to do and let the women do

Are they better at it than me? Well they certainly have more practise

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First build in a while, is everything okay?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QdMRHN

Any recommendations before I order?

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>>58914459
Good start, here are some improvements: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LpVJRG

>tfw RAM prices have gone up... again... by $10
This needs to stop.

>>58914542
I agree with the cooler and ram change, but why change the 1070?

>>58914594
Subjective change, while i like Gigabytes mobos i dislike their GPUs. RX series have shit chinko PCB and i seriously doubt they'll have much better quality on Nvidia cards.
Also had good experience with Zotac in the past.

>>58914542
Different person working on a similar build. Was originally thinking of the evo 212 cooler first but it seems the cryorig h7 is better. I'm really picky and the white fan doesn't go well with anything. Should I just stop be picky or can I get a different color fan or what

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Hi guys my PSU cable wont reach my 24 pin power slot on the motherboard, would a 30cm extension cable cause any power or performance issues?

>>58914542

Expect them to go up for a while.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2013/sep/06/china-fire-memory-chip-prices

>happened in 2013
>RAM takes ~7 years to make from what I've heard
>it's only 2017

So if all went well, RAM prices should drop in 2020 or so.

>>58914760

you'd probably lose 30fps in all games

>>58914704
>Should I just stop be picky
Yes. You probably won't see it anyways. H7 offers too good price/performance to be put aside for muh aesthathicss.

>>58914766
>So if all went well, RAM prices should drop in 2020 or so.
Jesus fucking Christ those fucking chinks. Jews or chinks, every damn fucking time.

>>58914766

i'll just stick with my AM3+ board, with DDR3 1333mhz RAM until 2020 then.

>>58914780

reeeeee, power wont do that, tell me honestly reeereeereeee

Final thoughts on this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mbDPYr

Wait for Ryzen release for the potential Intel price drop?

>>58914542
Why the mobo change? I was looking at that one first but switched to mine because it was cheaper and looked like it had everything

>>58914859
>Intel price drop
Are you high m8?

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Changed some stuff since last thread. Am getting a 950 for $50 but plan to get a better gpu in the future. Getting case from friend. Any other changes I should make?

I need a new GPU. Is 1070 for ~$500 (including europoor tax) a good choice, or should I get something else? Should I wait for Vega so GeForce prices drop?
I want to game at 1080@60 and play with GPGPU.

Need a semi-passive PSU that isn't stupidly expensive.
Is the Corsair RM550x at ~£80 the best choice?

>>58914896
Overall better, yours is fine, though.

>>58915038
Buy 1060. 1070 is overkill. I recommend this one: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125901&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
>>58915056
No. This is better: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438026&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

>>58914859
>Intel won't drop their prices even if a competitor is offering a commensurate product for half the price

Let me guess: you don't run a business.

seems like small form factor isn't really an option if you need two pci-e slots - am I wrong? ASRock H61M-VG3 is the only one that pops up on PCP, but it seems pretty dated.

>>58915098
Is that even semi-passive? All i hear is that EVGA psus are loud.

>>58915251
EVGA GQ are "quiet" if i'm correct, but they are generally of lower quality than G2 ones.
Good quiet PSUs are Be Quiets, but they are overpriced as shit.
Maybe buy a fan and change it yourself?

How good is this psu? http://www.frys.com/product/8958793?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

>>58915340
EVGA G2 is excellent but 750W seems oversized. Also just write the name here next time.

Is PC gaming feasible for a poorfag?

>>58915449
I'm upgrading from a Asus 1060 3gb to a 1070 soon and I also have 2 ssd(s) and 4 hard drives so I think I need a better psu than my current EVGA 600b.

>>58915479
How poor?

>>58915488
around $600?

>>58915480
More W does not equal better. Skylake / Kaby Lake + 1070 is fine with 550W, if you have shitload of other stuff to connect, etc. 650W is everything you'll ever need.

>>58915334
That's what I'm trying to avoid. Every PSU I buy I void the warranty within a week replacing the shit noisy fan.

Old guy here self studying technology to make a career out of it.

Im self studying for the comptia and i want to build a computer just to practice with stuff. Not a gaming one literally just a desktop generic one.

Can i do this? How expensive? I can spend up to 1k but since its just for info and generic stuff i want it to be cheap.


>>58915517
Just get more money first.

>>58913370
>>58913399
>>58913511
>>58913514

Bad news, looks like my GPU isn't being recognized at all. I am completely bewildered here.

I'm fairly certain it's sitting properly and it's clearly receiving power.

>>58903589
>(old chipset needs UEFI update BEFORE installing a Kaby Lake CPU)
Fix'd

>>58915609
reseat your GPU a couple times and triple check the power cable.
take out the GPU and plug your monitor into the onboard video to make sure it's not mobo problem.
ask a friend if you can try their GPU to make sure it's not a PCI-E slot problem.

what GPU?
what mobo?
what PSU?

>>58915517
$600 will give you some entry level shit.

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>>58915682
>>58915517
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZFDB4C

>>58915811
>pentium
>z270
what

>>58915833
only $30 more than a non-Z-chipset and it lets him upgrade to an unlocked in the future (or higher resell value).

>>58915519
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZFDB4C
Even with all the drives?

Do you do laptop suggestions?
100 > 440$ / ~£350 price range.

I'm currently looking for an all-rounder for my dad, so no strenuous use. He wants to write memoirs, work some web pages and watch movies on it. So I'll assume battery life isn't that important, he's only ever used windows and apple devices, and would prefer a full keypad.

I've been looking at a couple of chromebooks, but not sure how compatible they'd be for him and for a load of windows based applications (Word for one), since I've never owned or been around one I haven't a clue. Ideally a quad core too, I've got one myself and couldn't live with a slower laptop.

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Lads I think I've fucked it

I got a new graphics card for my build at christmas (Rx 460) and it was going pretty good but then it started to fuck up.

At first it was with Firefox, where the graphics driver would crsh and recover, r sometimes just freeze on a white screen unti I rebooted. I could ignore this for a while since it was rare.

Recently though it just flat out blue screens due to Firefx, and since yesterday the thing will either not get past he "Starting Windows" screen or if it does it crashes not long after.

Blue screen code is 116 and it talks about atikmpag.sys fucking up.

Anyone know what to do? I've tried various drivers, updating Windows, updating BIOS, reseating the graphics card and checking my hard drive. What else can I do?

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>>58915811
Quality shitpost.

How good is the Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80PLUS Gold Modular Power Supply? (Its $70 at frys after rebate)

>>58915920
you didnt reinstall drivers properly.

>>58915933
>implying

>>58915954
very good.

>>58916020
>very good.
Alright I'll buy thanks anony.

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