/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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Reminder that AMD Ryzen is most likely going to be released very early next month and you should wait to buy a CPU until after it's released.

Praise Lord Jim "Pussy Destroyer" Keller.

Anyone know if Intel patched the OCing of non-K models with Kaby Lake?

>>58891626
Unless it's shit. Then they pretty much handed Intel the market and their price gouging for years.

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upgrading from this (4yo), with a broken old logitech cooling desk, in a broken ass recliner to a $4000+ fully armed and operational battle station AMA, don't think i've been this excited since i got my Ps1 as a kid.

>>58891626
He'd look better without the 80s nerd haircut and perhaps adding a beard.

>>58891743
cool story bro

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>>58891785
Dreams come true brohan, no longer am i stuck in the endless cycle of "dont have enough money to commit to a battle station, just gonna get a new laptop".

if you believe it enough, you too can be free.

>>58891713
Yes they "fixed" it. i5 6400 + Z170 is still the best choice for budget power.

What would be a good graphics card for my build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QnhjvV

Also, the reason it's an matx board with an atx case is because I got the case for $9, brand new.

>>58891804
i hope half of that $4k is going towards something else than the PC itself

>>58891825
fucking kikes!

>>58891841
GTX 1070

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>>58891588
>PC Building General
kek'd at your title.

what you guys are doing is called ASSEMBLY. you ain't building shit. that title is an insult to intelligence.

when an uneducated chink who never saw a car her whole life an "build PCs" you know you've overblown your fucking skills.

>>58891892
We know but we're not autistic enough to be insulted by it.

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>>58891842
dont worry m8 it is, build itself is around $1650, dont have fancy LED and shit, just straight performance in a Fractal S.

Table, Monitors, Chair, Microphone, Speakers, Keyboard, all that shit adds up, though.

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>>58891892
go assemble stuff with your lego

>>58891913
>not getting a Define C
u fuked up

>>58891743
>$4000+ fully armed and operational battle station
That actually isn't that much depending on what you need. If you need desk + chair + PC + peripherals inkl. monitor and some headphones + mic the $4000 are going to melt in no time.

>>58891892
maximum autism

>>58891892
You got your way with Friendly GNU/Linux General but you aint having this thread you piece of shit.

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>>58891892
>he stepped up the shitposting game
WAR IS ON.

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>>58891930
idk mate, not seeing that much difference between Define S and C, going air cooling though, just know how to build the S already.

>>58891933
you're absolutely right mate, dont need headphones and mouse, but other than that its all new, got around $2300 for everything other than the pc, though, so i think i'll be okayish if i distribute it properly, dont need no $400 mic or XXXULTRAEXTREME ALIENWARE "Abduktionn" gamer chair, just gonna focus on getting the most out of my money.

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>>58891892
>tfw it's actually the video game console assembly general thread

>>58892014
check a review, basically updated and improved define S

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>>58892021
>>tfw it's actually the video game console assembly general thread
The truth finally comes out! that's exactly what this general is.

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>>58892034
will do mate, thanks for the heads up

I'm looking for simple case designs. I don't need any of those fancy ass gaymer cases. Best companies for builds? Simple boxes is best boxes.

>>58892014
>just gonna focus on getting the most out of my money
Make the table yourself, kitchen working plates are a good base for this.
For the chair get the Ikea Markus, got one, too. You can see it's a cheap chair but for the money it's good.
For the mic i'd look at a cheap Rode or Audio Technica for 100-150 bucks, AT2020 is a good choice, even the USB one.
What about keyboard? Imho the new Ducky Zero TKL or what it's called looks great, but don't waste you money on Razer or Corsair gaymen trash.
Monitor.. no idea, 1440p144Hz should be no problem with your budget, should be around $500 for a decent one, maybe 1-2 1080p60Hz used ones as secondaries.
The PC itself.. well, up to you.

Just my two cents.

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>>58892021
>>58892040
Shameless samefagging.

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>>58892132

>>58892094
ATX, mATX, ITX, do you mind some gaymen features / LED fans?

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>>58891980
bring it on nyanpasu

>>58892147
I don't hate it but I prefer simple and clean designs.

>>58892094
Fractal Design.
Lian Li.

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>>58892141
>>58892151
You asked for it.

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>>58892112
whoa dude, didnt expect that much advise, thanks for looking out for a brother, ill be saving this. And yeah, exactly what i had in mind for monitors, hope i roll lucky on the IPS lottery.

definitely gonna steer clear of LED riddles mid tier products at stupidly high prices, dont need no rainbow lights flashing, hence the no-window fractal case.

thanks again for the extensive advise

>>58892094
Thermaltake Versa H15 no window
Says gaming but it's actually nice

Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0

Rosewill SRM-01

Cooler Master N200

Assuming you want Micro ATX

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kW4Ljc

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>>58892185
make your move. I'm ready.

>>58892224
looks good

>>58892204
No problem, you could also look into Be Quiets Silent / Dark Base cases and Nanoxia Deep Silence series.
Oh and don't fall for the AIO meme, get a custom loop set from EKWB or stick to air, preferrebly Noctuas finest poo fans.

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>>58892249
On the move right now, inshallah senpai desu.

What's a good H110 Intel mobo under $100? For a dad comp

>>58892224
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mzYssJ

>>58892295
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/hMvZxr/gigabyte-motherboard-gah110ma

>>58892295
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rLs8TW/msi-motherboard-h110mgaming

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have anyone here tried this mobo?

http://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z270XP-SLI-rev-10#kf

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>>58892382

How's this instead of the gaming version?

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/rmrcCJ/msi-motherboard-h110meco

Should anything with the "ECO" tag be suspicious? Wouldn't get it for the eco aspect, but just because it seems like the most bare-bones and I really like MSI mobos.

how do i leave reviews on pcpartpicker

>>58892462
>>58877654

>>58892458
Perfectly fine mobo, doesn't have wifi though if that matters.

>>58892462
You probably have to register and login i'd assume

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>>58892462
>doesn't know how to fucking post a review on PCP
>thinks his opinion will matter to anyone

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>>58892493
>>58892487
>>58892476
thanks for the helpful replies

Gibs (You)s please
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2QHKGf

>>58892522 (You)
Looks good

>>58892522
(You)

>>58892553
>>58892561
Thx

Guys should I download and install Windows 10 Enterprise ltsb for gaming since it's free of bloatware?
Any repercussions from Ms and burgerland?

>>58892800
van enroute

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Will I notice a significant difference between the 1050 2GB and the 1050 Ti 4GB?

What is that extra 2 of RAM going to do for me?
I'm on a really short budget, and the 1050 is the best I can do, but I'm hesitant because maybe the Ti looks like the better option.

>>58892800
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of nigger shit with down syndrome.

>>58892814
What? Explain

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I'm looking for an ATX Z270 board with a budget of ~$200. I'm thinking about the Gigabyte Gaming5 or 7 but I was wondering if MSI or ASUS had something better/more featured for the same prices. Mild to moderate overclocking is a consideration but I'm not going to try record breaking or anything like that. Also I have a local Microcenter so their walk in deals count for price.

>>58892836
>>58877654

>>58892836
Ti on it's own is quite a bit faster, 2GB Vram won't be enough soon.

Then again, if you're thinking of getting the 1050 Ti just go straight for the RX 470.

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>>58892871

>>58892906
Party van aside, can it be use for gaming and shot? If not, what windows 10 the least shit?

>>58892836
Save a few more checks or do more chores if you're that poor.

>>58892892
What about the rx 460 4GB?

Would that be better than the 2GB 1050?

>>58892920
windows 10 minus 3 has the least shit

>>58892939
No, Rx 460 is slower either way, not worth it.

Go with the 1050 I guess.

>>58892939
It's 10% slower.

>>58892949
But my rigs is kaby Lake,
Also can I use ds4 for Windows 10 with ds4windows, can I use it wireless and wired?

>>58891626
>Jim "Pussy Destroyer" Keller.
He does look like he has a 70's porn pringle can prick with sideburns.

>>58892999
get windows 7

First time building a PC here...

How do you pricks get around to choosing your parts? Jesus. There's so much fucking information and most of it codewords and other "gaymer" shit. I mean, I can research which general process and video card I want then I STILL have 200 or so to sort through.

>>58893020
>figure out budget
>AMD or Intel
>Nvidia or AMD
>buy highest CPU/GPU in the current gen you can afford from said company

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>>58892906
Did someone call for a party van?

>>58893030
Yeah, I did that already.
>Intel Core i7-6700k + EVGA GeForce GTX 1070.

I'm still sorting through motherboards, RAM, HDs, Power supplies... Like holy fuck. I'm paranoid some of them have features and some don't and I have to worry if one company has good tech support or if one delivers broken shit.

>>58893057
Kek I spent 2 weeks researching a pc build and just ended up buying a pre-built because it costed around 200 less than building it myself.

>>58893057
>mobo
With a k series CPU, pick a Z270 board that's at least $100. $130 if you plan to do more than a very mild OC.
>RAM
RAM is RAM, buy whatever you want with good reviews.
>PSU
Google PSU tier list by Johny Guru.

>>58893030
>>AMD or Intel

Why would anybody unironically get AMD CPUs instead of Intel?

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>>58892451
so no one?

>>58893098
>if you plan to do more than a very mild O
Nah, video editing/encrypting and maxed out gaming (as far as I can get it with my CPU/GPU). Kind of figured I wanted a z270 already but it's nice to get confirmation about it.

Thanks on the other stuff.

>>58892021
>>58892040
And here we see the sourgrapespotamus gentooman post from his businessman thinkpad. An akward and invase species of subterranean mammal.

Entertainment software and gpus have been common topics in home computing for as long as I remember Mr. Nofun

>talking shit about popping a graphics card in your pc

>posting anime reaction images

>the irony

>>58893106
Ryzen

>>58893106
Exteme budget concerns.

>>58893093
If I thought I could get away with that without a shit ton of extra shit I don't need I probably would have.

>>58892938
this, grab a powercolor 4gb 480 when they're on sale, Were just going for 145 after mir

What ever happen to gtx 1080 ti? I thought it was going to be released January?

>>58893098
Would there ever be a reason to go over $130 for a z270? I plan to overclock but not until after I'm comfortable with the idea.

Hi, Aussie guy here again,

After some research for a computer that I can fit below my TV and be able to play Skyrim at 4K. Will this be enough as a bare minimum. And be used for watching downloaded movies

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/p3m9Fd

>>58893184
It'll be released right before or after Vega. They might slide the MSRP for thr 1070 and 1080 down $50-$175 to stop AMD.

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Got a Gtx 950 and a mid sized tower. Idk too much. Not sure if heatsink will keep an i7 cool. I don't plan to oc. Plan on upgrading gpu and ram later.

What's the best paperweight

>>58893219
You're spending more for ports and shit not actual overclocking performance.

>>58893240
If you don't plant to OC don't buy a K-series.

>>58893255
I'm aware. But I also want to make certain I'm covering all my bases.

>>58893253
LEDs on the motherboard.

>>58893240
If you're going with that cpu+mobo combo go with 3000mhz ram

>>58893309
Alright
>>58893272
Ok thanks. Well, I don't plan on overclocking because this is my first build and I've heard it can burn out the cpu. So I might play with it but never use it on a daily basis. Is there a very big price difference?

>>58893231
Looks good but if you wanna run texture packs on skyrim you're gonna need a 8GB RX 480.

>>58893346
>I've heard it can burn out the cpu.
Unless you disable all the safeguards, you shouldn't be able to fry it, at most you'll make it unstable

>>58893372
Oh. I'm just going off rumors.

>>58893346
$30 + cpu cooler
locked cpus come with a free stock cooler

>>58893506
Cool thanks. But they're ugly lol. Even though my case doesn't have windows.

>>58893572
Your mom's womb didn't have windows either when you were conceived, though I'm sure you wouldn't be here if it did.

>>58892014
Fuck paying fortunes for a desk. Just buy a sturdy used one.

>>58892257
love the design of the Fractal cases too much haha, and install looks easy as hell, too!

im not touching that water cooling, already got a D-15 in mind, with a few extra Noctuas for the case to match.

>>58893657
i can sort of see the appeal of a desk i can disassemble and carry on my own, but i'm probably gonna end up with a big ol sturdy wooden one.

>>58893355
Thank you , I have had a look and the RX480 8GB and the GTX 1060 6GB are the same price. Now I am not sure which one to jump to ?

>>58893705
MOAR RAM
which one performs better?

Hello friends

Am I fucking stupid or alright with this list?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qpNt4C

>>58893798
>Am I fucking stupid or alright with this list?
Yes.

>>58893798
You can get by with a cheaper Noctua cooler that will be just as quiet.

USB wifi adapters are a no-go. PCIe or nothing.

>>58893823
>USB wifi adapters are a no-go

Mine works great after 3 years.

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>>58893823
I use a usb wifi adapter, and it works pretty gucci. Sometimes I'll have to disconnect it on boot for it to properly connect, but then it works fine.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/P4jJRG
Can i get some feedback on this build?
Also any keyboard/monitor recommendations would be nice.

>>58892522
I gib 8.5 out of 10 because of ur semi good cpu and shit and cum colored cpu cooler choice

Okay guys... first time build. My goal is to stream.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DtHcm8
h8/r8

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>>58893975
just use this

>>58894056
Do you really need 32gb ram? get 2x8gb 3000mhz, and drop down to 650w psu.

>>58894085
Yes. I'm making my own graphics. I got a 1000 PSU because I intend to expand RAM and get a second GPU if I feel the need to, or if I need to install external drives.

>>58894023
First of all, get a psu with less wattage. You definitely dont need that much. Maybe 600, 650 at most. Secondly, get this cpu cooler or that other meme cooler that i cant remember for the life of me. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmtCmG/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2

>>58894085
>>58894104
Do you feel I can still downstep the PSU? Kinda want to keep the RAM just in case I have two games going or have to switch games.

>>58894023
>6700k
7700k.
>850w PSU
For what reason?

Anyway everything else looks good.

>>58894056
Git ram that is 2400 or higher, whatever is max that your cpu and mobo can handle. 32 can be excessive for most, but if you want go ahead. Last, dont buy windows 10 for $100. Get Win 10 Pro for $32 here https://www.kinguin.net/category/19429/windows-10-professional-oem-key/

>>58894142
ty ty

>>58894127
>7700k
>Those fucking temps
>My fucking sides
>#Ryzenhype420nigga

>>58894104
>>58894119
At least get 3000mhz ram, if you feel better getting 1000w, then that's up to you. 850 would probably be enough for SLI.

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>>58894049
>thinks about cum and shit when he sees a Noctua fan
Goes to show where your mind is, faggot.
>>58894119
You will not ever pull 1000w. Ever.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yW7VCy

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was told to get a tier 1-2 psu from the list

Did I do okay?

A little sketched about the damaged packaging but I have prime for a while so returns should be easy if its borked. How do I test/benchmark a psu?

>>58894161
Just get a kit and Delid, easy -30c off the core.

>>58894189
Possibly. Depends on what build you are using it for. Anons like to reccomend you best ofthe best shit you dont need
>m.2 is outdated
>ryzen for $500 is worth it
>windows 10 is for fags get GNU like the other Jews

>>58894168
>>58894142
What advantage would jumping the bandwidth do for me? Loading speeds?

>>58894213
When i greentexted i said what other anons have said. Dont listen to them unless you have a $2000 budget or higher

>>58894215
Yes, minor, but the cost between 2133 and 2400 ram is nearly invisible (unless your ram manufacturer is a cuck fag)

>>58894252
Ah, thanks for the heads up.

>>58894204
>Just delid they said
>Void your warranty because you don't know what the fuck you're doing because you're on fucking /g/ asking how to put parts together they said
>Fuck up $330 chip
>???
>Profit!

>>58894213
The fuck are you even saying? If you're going to be obnoxious, at least be accurate.

>>58894204
The difference between 7700 and 6700 isn't worth the risk, honestly.

>>58894272
See >>58894231

>>58894268
How retarded can you be to try delidding on your own I literally just said get a kit.

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>>58894293
Who says that M.2 is outdated?

>>58894297
Kits are suddenly automated requiring no consumer intervention/guidance?

>>58894313
I mean sticking a knife under the IHS isn't very smart.

>>58894312
I dunno. Some headass in the last thread. He was ying to convince me that NVMe ssds were better. Not sure if he was trolling me or if its worth it, but im on a budget

>>58892885
I just picked up a asus strix z270g, shit has everything you could ask for except maybe thunderbolt 3.

Guy from level1tech reviewed it (more like rundown) and it seems to have everything you could want for overclocking (including good VRM setup)

It's just about $200 but with jet you can bring it down to like 179

>>58894313
They look pretty foolproof actually.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/119374257/rockit-88-intel-cpu-delid-tool

>>58891892
>what you guys are doing is called ASSEMBLY.
Maybe you should open a fuckin' dictionary you stupid bitch
Build, verb-
>construct (something, typically something large) by putting parts or material together over a period of time.

Putting PC parts together falls under this definition, very squarely.

Maybe instead of saying stupid shit like kek you could read a book and be less of a retard.

>>58894356
M.2 comes in sata and pcie connect varietys

>>58894356
He was on a shitty cpu. So was limited by processing power. 400mbs.

>>58894356
Oh boy, here we go.
>M.2 is a FORM FACTOR
NVMe is a SPECIFICATION
That said, NVMe PCIe SSDs are not worth it outside of high-end builds, there's nothing to be gained from something that fast with consumer needs.

>>58894213
ivy i5 @ 4.2 390x @ 1.1
>515w max continuous on +12v
>30a on each rail

total system draw on old bronze psu 470w according to killawatt.

>>58894330
The point I'm trying to approach is an individual on pcbg asking for critiques of his build likely doesn't possess the knowledge or finesse to delist and is unacceptable as a viable solution for a person of that caliber

>>58894313
my cousin did it. it must simple tool because so is he, and it came out fine.

Give me a good case at most $100. No rgb shit, no windows. Thats premiums i do not need. Dont get me wrong i love rgb. But my build isnt for it

>>58894488
Fractal Design Define [insert letter]

>>58894488
just get one that you think looks good and has fan filters. it's a box

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500401&cm_re=zotac_1070-_-14-500-401-_-Product
or
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871&cm_re=gigabyte_1070-_-14-125-871-_-Product
or a different 1070? Tax refund coming on Monday and I want to upgrade from my Asus 1060 3gb to a 1070 and put the 1060 in my secondary pc.

>>58894500
>>58894502
currently i chose corsair carbide 200r

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>>58894387
a fucking low-IQ african can do what you do. you ain't building shit. you're just:

>ordering shit from online stores
>opening cardboard boxes
>plugging in cables
>thermal greasing a chip
>plugging in cards
>flipping switches.

you ain't building shit. you're just doing ASSEMBLY that a well-trained monkey can do. get over yourself.

and I bet all you do is assemble gayming machines that you'll use to waste your life away.

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>>58894593
Wow. Just wow. I can't even. Rood.

>>58894500
>>58894502
should i get the Fractal Design S or the C

>>58894623
S if you're doing a custom loop. C if you're a normal person that ain't got time for that.

>>58894630
S is cheaper than C. does it really matter? doesnt matter either way

>>58894593
>ordering shit from online stores
they cant read. How would they know what to buy

>>58894641
C shaves about 5 inches in depth, but it really doesn't matter since they're essentially the same case.

Taiga is a fucking whore and ironic animeposters are cancer.

>>58894593
>>58894387
You're both arguing semantics just to be cunts.
>>58894593
thinkpad gentooman, nice to see you again. Keeping the anime reaction images fresh I see. >Way to show those immature gamers.

Being so asspained you're poor and can't participate, you have to post hate in a thread you're not even interested in.

I feel kinda bad for you.

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>>58894593
>I bet all you do is assemble gayming machines that you'll use to waste your life away.
No worse then being a sad cunt like you shitposting on imageboards and watching animus all day.

is this a good m.2 pcie ssd
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0179DQM34/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza9&keywords=nvme+ssd&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A6009678011%2Cp_36%3A-22000
Just yes or no. dont bother recommending anything over 220

>>58894820
Yeh

I remember all the AMD hype with bulldozer. What a heap of shit it was.

Is history repeating? It sure seems like it.

>>58894593
Just like how they assemble buildings.

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>>58894983
never heard of a building that can be built in 15 minutes and requires no skill whatsoever from workers.

>>58894998
>what are Mexicans

>>58894998
>He doesn't know what a tent is.

>>58894998
>Improvised survival structures don't exist.

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>>58895012
Someone smart is still telling them what to do. And those that don't listen, they die in accidents or get maimed. Still, the work requires skill and physical ability

Opening boxes and plugging in cables requires no skill whatsoever and no physical ability. An old lady in a retirement home can do what you do.

it's an ASSEMBLY. you ain't building shit, kid.

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>>58895074
>it's an ASSEMBLY. you ain't building shit, kid.
Fine, can you fuck off now you autistic cunt

>>58895074
They assemble all parts to make a house.

You are retarded, son.

Asked this earlier to no response: can a GTX 1060 support dual 1440p 60hz monitors? No dual-screen gaming anticipated.

>>58895119
Has a max digital res of 8k@60hz. 2 1440p@60hz = 5k@60hz bitrate so I don't see why not.

>>58895172
¡gracias!

Okay, last part of my build, guys.

What SSD HD do I get? Prices go all over the map. If I get a cheap one will is it guaranteed to be shit or what?

>>58891588
Does laptop buying advice also apply to this thread?

>>58891588
Does peripheral buying advice also apply to this thread?

Does accessory buying advice also apply to this thread?

Does burger ordering advice apply to this thread?

Should I order my burger medium rare or medium well when they ask me?

can someone direct me to one side? im either going to buy the rx 470 or the gtx 1050ti. also, i have a amd 6 core @ 3.5ghz, is this good? should i consider upgrading cpu?

>>58895759
Never eat burger meat anything other than well.

You're gonna have a bad time if you do.

>>58895780
RX 470, wait for Ryzen to upgrade Cpu.

>>58895816
is there any particular reason why this thread recommends specifically the i5 6500/7500 for these gpus?

>>58895799
I always get funny looks from friends when I order well. I personally don't like all the shit that leaks out any time I order a rare burger.

>>58895829
Not really, but don't upgrade your Cpu until Ryzen releases, it's gonna drop prices hundreds of dollars across the board.

>>58895780
Upgrade cpu when ryzen hits. You're gonna need a new mobo for that.
But for now get a rx480 or 6gb 1060. It'll cost a little more for several years extra use.
Save your cash for that and ryzen. You wont regret the wait one bit.

>>58895856
im basically at my max budget with the rx470 for rn. I don't think i necessarily *need* a new cpu... do i?

>>58895870
The 6 core should be fine for now. You can overclock them well.
It's highly recommended you put the little bit extra in for a 480-1060.
The performance gap between them and the next rung down is too much not to consider them.
I suggest you compare them side by side for things like transistor counts and memory speed. That should settle it for you. Benchmarks are kind of fucky when it comes to predicting longevity of a card.

I'm in the market for a new CP. I need to upgrade my anceint phenom ii 955. WHat do you guys recommend?

>>58895910
thank you so much. last question, i have two options. 8gb rx470 or 4gb rx480? the 480 is actually $10 cheaper. both are msi btw

>>58896020
Wait for Ryzen, beginning of March.

Hey stupid question here but, I'm doing a small form factor build with the Pentium G4560, Im looking for a 200 series Mini ITX so I don't have to update the mobo, but I don't know which ones they are lmao anyone have a list or somethin

>>58896038
That's a tough one.
8gb 470 would do little better in a few things(4-5fps from memory). But for 1080p gaming you'd be better off with the 480 4gb.
I'll still stress saving the extra 20-30$ for the 8gb 480 will be the way to go. You should always aim for longevity in hardware.
You'll be very happy with either one, I can guarantee that.

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>>58896118

>>58896136
thanks again, i think i am just gonna spend the extra $20 for the 8gb 480.

>>58895074
>thinkpad gentooman interacts with his family

"Niichan let's build some lego towers"

>Opening boxes and plugging in bricks requires no skill whatsoever and no physical ability. An old lady in a retirement home can do what you do.

>it's ASSEMBLY. you ain't building shit, kid.

dad would be disappoint if he had stuck around.

>>58896136
one more actually, the 470 is a gaming x and the 480s are armor. does this change anything? what's the difference?

>>58896265
Their both slightly overclocked. So it's doesn't really matter from a hardware POV.
I was once told that OC'd versions are tested for overclock making them more likely to be a winner of the silicon lottery. But I think that's bullshit.
But the BIG difrence between them is the style. They're non reference cards. They've got aftermarket heat sinks and fans.
If you care how your card looks then that's something to look into.

In short, the 480 is still better

>>58896143
What site is this?

>>58896521
newegg

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fgz4Gf
Revised from the last thread after asking my local supplier for available parts.

>>58896612
Are you planning on overclocking that locked cpu?

How's this look?
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/tvg9Fd
From the uk, looking to use it for gaming, general family use and do a bit of light 2d cad work on it.
What I'm chasing most is value, don't mind stepping up or down if it improves the price to performance. Any help would be appreciated.

>>58896640
No. Any reason why I would need to buy an unlocked one instead?

>>58896683
z270 mobos are high end mobos specifically meant for overclocking, so unless theres some sort of feature you need, you could probably go with a cheaper 200 series mobo.

Okay guys... took your advice and knocked down the PSU a peg and updated the RAM to a faster speed. Also changed the CPU from an i7-770k to a i7-6700k because I was somewhat worried about the way it runs hot (I plan to keep my computer under heavy load from 6-8 hours at a time).

How does it look?
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QtX8XH

>>58896792
Looks good to me. You could use a z170 instead if your going with a 6th gen i7 however.

Conundrum: new build and I'm looking at using the G4560 with a 200 series Mini ITX, but it's cheaper to buy a i3-7100 and a 100 series motherboard. What do?

>>58896869
Ah, didn't think of that. Thanks.

>>58892836
The 1050 ti is actually a bad choice, unless you need best possible performance for 75W GPU. It's way overpriced compared to the 1050 and 470.

>tfw getting NEETbux soon
How does this build look? Is the 850 Evo really worth the premium?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yK2PYr

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>>58897029
>getting NEETbux soon
Ryzen is so close.
http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-lineup-pricing-confirmed-8-cores-low-320/
8c/16t will be #319 at cheapest. 6c/12t will be worth looking at.
>Evo really worth the premium
Yay and neigh. If you're only doing online shit, you'll still be stuck in lobby waiting on everyone else to load their game files.
I've got raid 0 on two Kingston u400's and it's fast enough. for everything else.
Not sure about prices ect. But raid 0 is worth looking into if you can swing cheep SSD's.
Pic related.

What do you do with old parts after you upgrade them /g/?

>>58897187
Keep them, obviously.
It's very handy to have some spare parts around for a quick fix or to diagnose some problems.
If I accumulate enough parts, I'll assemble them into another computer.

tfw i thought this was electronic components in anons toolboxs

tfw my dream will never become reality

:[

>>58897268
>electronic components in anons toolboxs
Literally all you need to assemble a computer is a Philips screwdriver, though.

>>58897187
Sell them cheap to old pensioners who want to play sim games and get a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

I cant wait for bulldozer ver 2 to release.

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AYYYYYMD

LMAO

BULLDOZER VER 2

>>58897636
>5960x faster than 6900k despite lower clockspeed and older architecture
>5820k almost as fast as 7700k despite older architecture and 20% lower clockspeed

There isn't a single figure on that chart that's anything close to correct, is there?

>>58897679
Actually those numbers on left can be directly linked to CPU Mark benchmarks, they're all real but in reality all of those are heavily oced with the exception of Ryzen being clocked at 3.4 with disabled boost.

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This must be a stupid question but this is the first time i'm building one.

Can i put my HDD and SSD in the same energy cable? My PSU has a cable with 2 consecutive ends like the one in pic

>>58897679
They're correct if you know that thoes chips are overclocked and Ryzen gimped with non optimal ram
>>58897019
>>58897636
Stop shilling with bait that's been BTFO and still on the board. Git gud.

>>58897699
So by quick calculation and assuming the 9590 is clocked at 5GHz, Ryzen is about 50% faster than Vishera, clock for clock.

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This for them games.

>>58897119
Thanks. I might do a ryzen AMD build since I plan on sticking to 1080p/144hz so a ryzen cpu/480 should be perfect.

>>58897987
efterbliven/10

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>>58897836
>psu cable has 2 power connectors
>wonders if he can use both at the same time
>might be a stupid question

>>58897987
buy a seasonic prime psu or if you are more on budget a evga psu, ignore other brands
also dont forget thermalpaste good stuff is only like 5-10€ Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is best atm

how do you guys ground yourselfs to avoid introducing static electricity?

>>58898091
>doesnt know shit about PSUs and rebranding
stop giving shitty advice

>>58898111
sometimes

Can I get someone to look at this? https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bqpCtJ
Using for gaming and 2d cad. Don't mind spending a little more or less if it'll be better value. Particularly concerned about the gpu/monitor choice. Thanks

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>>58897836

>>58898111
>>58898118
>sometimes
durp misread.

touch something that's grounded like water radiator in your room or a PSU that's plugged into the wall (but turned off).

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>>58897836
wait a minute, is he serious?

>>58898053
>att vara så här avundsjuk

>>58898315
>spendera 7k på en 1TB SSD när man kan få samma prestanda och dubbelt så mycket utrymme för halva priset
>tror folk är avundsjuka och inte skrattar bakom ryggen på han

Is there any reason I should get this RX480 4GB (164.99 - 20 MIR + 4.99 shipping):
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131706

Over this RX470 4GB (169.99 - 30 MIR + Free Hitman game + 3.99 shipping):
> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137076

Can that Hitman game be resold? If so, for how much? 20 USD would drop the 470 into the 120 range...

For context, it's replacing my HD7850; I plan to order Ryzen (still on Phenom II x4 830/DDR2) near launch if it meets the hype it has. I currently run on 1920x1200, but I will likely consider updating to 1440p in the future - so I'll likely sell the RX then and get a another higher-end card depending on that timeframe (Vega/Navi/Volta etc).

>>58898341
>samma prestanda och dubbelt så mycket utrymme för halva priset

Snälla förklara hur, SNÄLLA.

>>58898361
RAID0

>>58898355
no, get the 480. you should really consider the 8GB version instead if you plan to go above 1080p resolution.
yes you can resell the key, try taking 30% off the full retail price.

>>58897836
I'll be kind. You have to get a molex to sata connector.

My HD7850 finally died on me. What's the current equivalent GPU to it? I don't really play much high intensive games but would want something that doesn't require me to change the mobo and CPU.

CPU is an i5 3570k. I know it's considered ancient but I just don't have the means yet to build another one from scratch.

>>58898401

I do plan to go above 1920x1200, but as stated, that's not happening for a while now and I'll be doing it with a direct upgrade to a higher end graphics card depend on when.
8GB seems difficult to justify price-wise, will likely not affect me much at my current resolution, and it's very likely I may only have this card for a year, anyways.

The Himan key seems to have more value than I expected (game runs around 34 USD on G2A), so the RX470 can possibly hit under 119 USD while the RX480 still hits around 149. It doesn't seem like the RX480 is worth the 20% price increase; since the Hitman bundle will run until the 22nd, I guess I'll wait and see if Newegg posts any interesting promo code before that date to sweeten it or if another deal comes along.

>>58898561

I'm changing from an HD7850 also. I know that if you could run a 7850, you can run an RX470 or 480 (or RX460 if you want to be cheap).

>>58898561
friend has a 3570k and a evga gtx 960, runs really damn good I must say

a few days ago I saw a thread on here that says that if I don't buy a WD Black drive then all the rest are shit and my drive will fail
is this true?

>>58898753
Everything you read on 4chan is true you fucking tard.

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is benq XL2730 the best 1440p monitor for the price?

Andre Ryzen pushes down the price of Intel chips immediately, yes?

>>58898753
All hard drives are shit

WD Black are only good, because they have 5 years of warranty

>>58898111
I put on my sweater, put the case on the carpet, and sometimes I also rub my hair before touching PC parts.

>>58897987
>tfw I will never buy a PC this expensive

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>when you can't play around with part picker because Ryzen's not there
I just hope there's cheap enough MOBO with SLI and RGB LEDs on launch, cos I really need a new PC right now

>>58898111
Touch the fly-wire door before handling PC. Turn off power to the PC while it's plugged in. (might discharge caps down the earthing Fucked if I know)
Then after opening case I retouch the door. Then tap with alternating hands on the PSU case. Then avoid touching anything that's exposed circuitry while doing what I need to.
Don't fret that you touch something. it's unlikely that you'll fuck it. Makers have put a lot of effort in to protect components from static because that'll lead to them being RMA'd, cutting into profits.
Really we only need to touch the door once to get rid of high charges. Low volt static is fairly safe. So you don't need to go full autistic with it. PC builders will use a strap because that do it all day, and that increases the chance of their own fuck up's.

Aren't you guys a little apprehensive about buying a Ryzen chip immediately on release?

>>58899522

no i can see the future. all that's gonna be ryzen is my dick

What would be the best motherboard for this build? I have no intention of overclocking.

Preferably ATX sized if possible.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gZPZr7

>>58894592
Honestly I wouldnt recommend that because it doesnt have fan filters, and also just a cheap out for many other reasons. I like everything phanteks makes, look into them.

>>58898111
Build it while standing on a hard surface, not a carpeted.

I learned that one the hard way.

Would a 450W PSU to power a rx 480 4gb? The total power draw of my system is about 304 W but it is recommened to use a 500W psu with the gpu.

Closing in on this: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMxpNN

6gb 1060 worth £210? Upgrading from a 2gb 770

Which brand of RX480 should I get? MSI or Nitro+? XFX not an option etc.
MSI is appereantly quieter but Nitro+ has more frames, also 10$ cheaper.

>>58899810
The "recommended wattage" is for worst case scenario(people with no understanding of computers who might have ridiculous setup as a crappy "500W" PSU that can actually only deliver about 400W and stay within spec). If PSU calculator says that your system requires 304W from PSU, that means a good quality 350W PSU will work just fine.

a few questions for someone switching over to the PC master race

I want to game in 1440p. Should I go for 75hz or 144hz? There's like a $200 price difference

i5 vs i7? How many games utilize hyperthreading, and is it worth the extra $100?

Saving games on an SSD vs an HDD. Do games benefit from it, noticeably? Also, M.2 vs SATA? The motherboard I'm looking at can accept M.2, but it uses a SATA channel.

Also, is a fan controller a good idea for a quiet build? It seems like my motherboard has a weird minimum speed that it doesn't go under, but I'd like it to be quieter.

I'm not trying to be spoonfed. I've noticed that it's hard to get good answers because it seems like a lot of tech journalists get free parts, so they're bound to be tactful.

>>58900210
>I want to game in 1440p. Should I go for 75hz or 144hz? There's like a $200 price difference
Depends on how much you want to spend. You're not going to be running new games at 1440p/144Hz without either reducing the image quality heavily or spending a lot of money on the system.

>i5 vs i7? How many games utilize hyperthreading, and is it worth the extra $100?
See above. It's not really a question of "utilizing" hyperthreading as much as it is about how well the game's engine can use more than 4 cores. For most (new or newish)games, the average FPS is about the same, but an i7 will have higher minimums. If you want a setup that can run games at 144Hz, I'd recommend an i7. Otherwise an i5 will do just fine, at 1440p you'll be mostly limited by your GPU anyway.

>Saving games on an SSD vs an HDD. Do games benefit from it, noticeably? Also, M.2 vs SATA? The motherboard I'm looking at can accept M.2, but it uses a SATA channel.
Retrieving the game data from SSD means fewer and shorter loading screens. You won't see higher FPS, but it's definitely a noticeable QoL improvement. If the M.2 uses SATA, you won't see benefit from going for M.2 SSD instead of one that uses SATA natively.

>>58900328

Would you go i5 and 75hz or i7 and 144hz? I'm not wealthy but I do want an effective PC.

>>58897987
You do understand there's no difference in i5 vs i7 when we talk about gaming, right? i7 vs i5 doesn't really make a difference

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What's the best 480 8GB

>>58900392
Well... personally I'm a poor student at the moment and gaming isn't really that big of a priority for me, so I'd go for two good 1080p panels instead of 1440p in the first place.

So really depends on how much you're willing to spend. To make effective use of the 144Hz screen, you'd need to spend well over $1k before you consider any of the peripherals, and if you want to keep up with new titles, you'll have to be willing to put another $600 into a new GPU in a year or two. Does that sound like the kind of money you want to spend on gaming, not even counting the actual games? If so, go for it. But you can have pretty great experience without the 144Hz screen, so if you're not really sure or have better things to do with that money, considering getting the 75Hz screen, an unlocked i5 and a 1070.

RX 480 8GB
i5 7500

Should I get a 60hz or a 144hz freesync monitor?

>>58900478
XFX GTR and Asus STRIX are great, Sapphire Nitro+ OC and MSI Gaming X are good, don't bother with the rest.

>>58900502
I have the choice between Sapphire Nitro+ and MSI, which one would you choose now?

>>58900520
MSI, it has a better cooler.

>>58897836
Oh no anaon, the dangerous waste energy comes out of the second cable.

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>>58900456
>>58900482

I look at stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfBhah5kQ_Q&t=314s where he's getting terrible framerate in FO4 with an i5 as opposed to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyST4aazqnE who is easily clearing 80fps with an i7.

But then you have stuff like this https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/57xzop/game_crashing_to_desktop_without_error_i7_6700/?st=iz1icjht&sh=80b1888a

where RS6:Siege crashes because of hyperthreading, and it needs to be disabled.

And considering these are two of the games that I play the most, it makes the decision difficult.

>>58900520
MSI has better cooler, Sapphire better PCB and higher stock clock. Imho get the cheaper.

>>58900529
Doesn't nitro+ have better frames? or is it such a small diff that it's basically irrelevant. Also I'm not overclocking, so the cooler might not be too relevant for me. Unless it means that MSI is less noisy?

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So how's this build? any improvements for the price range it's in?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jm9k8K

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I want to upgrade this 4 year old toaster. The goal is Max settings, 1080p and 60fps. Is it possible wth a budget of 500-600$?

And is OCing worth it, considering I've never done it?

How do people just return things?

I keep seeing people talking about returning gpus to buy a different after months of usage. I even saw someone get 4 monitors just to try them out and return 3.
Is this an american thing?

Is it worth spending a 100 extra bucks (150->250) to go from a 60 hz to a 144hz one? is the difference really that big? With freesync, 1080p.

>>58901011
It's also an issue of how 144hz will tax your GPU.

>>58900817
Generally good, but go for 2400 RAM which should cost the same, mobo will be around 90-100€ which is too expensive for B250 if you ask me.
mATX should be cheaper. SSD is obviously good, but you can get a cheaper PNY CS1311, ADATA SU800 or SanDisk Ultra II which are also good.
Case is imho completely overrated, safe choice but personally i'd never buy it.

>>58901042
Monitors don't affect your gpu performance, only affects what you're seeing. Right? If your GPU is putting out 60-100fps for example you will get screen tearing because your 144hz monitor will be putting out 144fps, however freesync avoids this.

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I have a 1080 SC ACX 3.0 with the upgraded thermals. I have no temp problems at all. EVGA will let me upgrade to ICX for $99. Why would I do this?

>>58901086
Thanks

>>58901133
Resell value is the only reason to do this, otherwise it's scam. Have seen that vid too and he's 100% correct.

>>58901249
They're really starting to piss me off. Maybe it'll drive down the prices of the original and I'll be able to afford SLI.

>>58901300
Yeah.. no idea what the fucktards in EVGAs GPU department are smoking.

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>>58900502
>Asus STRIX
a shit
Pic related

>>58901332
Thermal paste on it sucks but other than that it's a good card.
Does changing it void the warranty?

>>58901343
It's not the thermal paste, you nutter.
Look at the diamond spot in the thermal paste area. It's only touching 2.5 out of the 5 heatpipes. One isn't even making contact at all. This is why ASUS's STRIX coolers perform like dual-fan models from other brands.

If you don't have at least 7 rainbow LED fans and rainbow LED RAM, it's like you don't even care about gay rights (human equality).

>>58901383
So? Still has decent cooling and an excellent PCB. It's not a bad card. If you want shit cooling i suggest you buy Sapphire.

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>>58901446
Ironically Sapphire's mid-range NITRO cooler has much better thermal performance than the STRIX. The STRIX really shits the bed under sustained thermal loads since it only has two semi-thick heatpipes offloading most of the heat on finned surfaces that only covers one and a half fans.
Sapphire's heatpipes on the other hand has two thick and one semi-thick heatpipes coming out of a copper plate for slightly worse thermal transfer, but better thermal load distribution across those heatpipes. At load with similar overclocks, the Nitro cooler matches the STRIX for similar fan RPM percentages.

>>58901592
Heard that STRIX has some weird cooling behaviour but as far as i know the NITRO cooling is just shit.
Do you have some links/data/whatever on this?

>>58901649
Look up every single 480 review for both the cards. They perform practically the same despite the STRIX having the theoretical cooling advantage.

>>58901667
>>58901649
Bystander here, should I be worried about the cooling on the sapphire nitro+ model? Not going to overclock. Should I get MSI instead?

>>58901774
No it's still safe but it will get pretty hot and probably loud as well.

>>58901804
Yeah noise is a huge deal to me, so I should get MSI then?

>>58901910
Probably yes.

I need a new GPU. Is 1070 for ~$500 (including europoor tax) a good choice, or should I get something else? Should I wait for Vega so GeForce prices drop?
I want to game at 1080@60 and play with GPGPU.

>>58901774
>>58901910
MSI's TwinFrozr seems to perform better than either Sapphire or ASUS's models. I'd also look into XFX and Niggabyte.

Recommend me a cpu cooler to replace the stock intel one.
Need something silent no OC and less than 20 euros
Im looking at
https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-7-pro-rev-2.html

>>58902662
That thing is ok but not really good. If noise is important then geet a cheap entry level cooler from Be Quiet.

>>58891588
>asrock h97 pro 4
>corsair h45
>corsair vengence 16gb
>corsair CX500
>i7 - 4770k (3.9ghz)
>nvidia GT610
>sandisk 64gb SSD
>kingston 120gb SSD
>western 500gb HDD
>western 120gb HDD
>CIT F3 case

first build (other than frankensteining old works towers i "borrowed").

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>>58902884
>>kingston 120gb SSD
>>western 500gb HDD
>>western 120gb HDD

>>58902918
???

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>>58902918

>>58902987
It doesn't work if you can skip it.

>>58902976
He propably means why the fuck you buy 2 seperate hdds

>>58903127
No
>(((Kingston)))
>(((WD)))

>>58903127
Maybe it's a bunch of old HDDs he had lying around?

>>58903158
Are you fucking retarded?

>>58903166
correct,the 120 HDD had my old linux distro on so chucked it in,ssds run another linux distro and win 7..the 500gb is storage for all os's

What does /pcbg/ think of the new EVGA cards with better cooling? I'm looking to buy a 1070 and was either thinking the 3 fan gigabyte or zotac or now the EVGA. http://www.pcworld.com/article/3168454/components-graphics/hands-on-evgas-sensor-laden-icx-technology-revolutionizes-graphics-card-cooling.html

I don't game anymore. How do I justify having a discrete graphics card? What hobbies can I develop that will use my PCs specs? Encoding anime? What else?

Is Photoshop worth the subscription price?

>>58903469
SFM R34.

>>58903364
Neat but not worth it if you already have a 1080

If you don't it's probably the best 1080 you can buy now

>>58903364
New ICX cards are good if you're buying new, don't fall for the $99 GPU swap meme though.
What's the retail price for the new ICX cards anayways?