/pcbg/ - PC Building General

how do i build a mac

>>58349268
http://www.osx86project.org/

>>58349285
>take the redpill
what did they mean by this?

>>58349285
>>58349268
It should be included in the OP because Macs are PCs.

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I want a build where i can edit video, this is my first time putting something together. Which one is better? Are they capable?

If i can spend less let me know! Since i also have to get a monitor, mouse, and keyboard

>>58349256
>404 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RqGWm8
>447 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2dVsM8
>648 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TXrzpb
>679 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/93YVf8
>1029 USD
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LJKy8K

>>58349354
right side definitely

>>58349386
How long should the build last? So i'm assuming it can handle video editing no problem? i dont game but what about gaming? Sorry for so many questions but it is a lot of money so i want to make sure im doing it right

>>58349458
It's not too many questions my dude. It should last you 5 years if Intel speeds up 8 if they just rebrand and re-heat their chips. Your 1060 should do fine in the high 1080p spectrum, don't expect anything fancy though. It won't hit acceptable frames at 1440p Medium

>>58349305
so few people actually do that so it would just waste more space.

>>58349354

4 cores for more whores

6 cores isn't necessary unless you're building a 64gb/sli/pci-e ssd gigabeast

>>58349488
Thanks mang you're helping me reassure myself. I actually don't game but its nice to know that it can. So it is good to go for editing video yes? is there a better card than the 1060 in the same price range? I read that editing suites take advantage of the CUDA cores so i chose a nvidia card

>>58349569
You read right, many editing software suites get a speed boost from the CUDA cores. The only alternative to the 1060 is the 480 but you need the CUDA so you're good.

i7 6700k or 7700k? Its $20 more... what y'all think

I want a new case. Recommend me a new case. I want:

>On the Bigger side
>Quiet
>Black
>No faggot window
>Hidden optical drive bays

>>58349738
budget?

>>58349738
>newegg.com
>search by best rating
>add modifiers (no window, size, etc) until you find something you like
>pick two or three, read reviews
>make an informed decision

>>58349750
any price. doesn't matter.

>>58349908
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/sjX2FT/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk
or
http://pcpartpicker.com/product/TXCwrH/phanteks-case-phes614pcbk

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>RX 470 is $250
>GTX 1060 is $260
>8GB of RAM is $60
>all of this plus 12% tax, and shipping
feels canada man

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I've been getting a lot of help from this threads, its my first build and all so I wanna get it right. I'm kinda under budget right now but I want to leave the possibility for upgrades in the future.

This is my current build, I am really considering dropping the GPU in favor of a Z170 ATX mobo. I want this machine mostly to play overwatch and do coding, nothing too intensive. The Pentium G4560 is from the Kaby Lake and comes with Intel HD610 APU; which is actually enough to run Overwatch in constant 60 in medium/high settings for 900p. So, would it be a good idea to sacrifice GPU for the sake of a more flexible and expandable mobo?

I'm just waiting for the G4560 to drop on Amazon to start buying all muh shit

>>58349937
phanteks has an exposed optical drive bay. also does that thing have no front I/O whatsoever?

the r5 looks good. any reason to get the r5 over the r4? r4 looks a bit cleaner.

>>58349958
I threw in the Phanteks for lols. I agree that from the pics the R4 looks cleaner. It's up to you my man. Have the search I used http://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#s=0&u=1&f=2&t=4,3&sort=d6

>>58349978
thanks friendo

>>58349955
If you're under budget I'd **immediately** upgrade the G4560 to an i3 6100. It's the biggest performance bang for buck you can add to that build.

I would very much not recommend using integrated graphics for Overwatch, it will look and feel like shit. Your best option in the ~$100 range is to get a used card. Check your local Craiglist. Something like a 7950 would max overwatch at 1080p and not be much more than $100.

Z170 motherboards are a luxury meme for overclocking and that's about it. OH, ALSO NOTE: if you overclock your non-K chip the integrated GPU disables itself. So you need a card if you're going Z170.

Any suggestions for a keyboard I should get for my new build?

>>58349987
no problem amigo!

>>58349955
>>58349991
Also, what exactly is your budget? I have a feeling you could get the price down fiddling with combos.

I'm pretty familiar with the technical part of PC building, but I'm new to the price-watching game. Does anyone know how much we should expect a Skylake setup to drop in price now that Kaby Lake is out?

I'm trying to decide between
i5-6500/H170/DDR4-2133
and
i5-7500/H270/DDR4-2400

All else equal, I figure the Kaby Lake build is *slightly* more likely to survive an extra refresh cycle, but they're so close I would easily go Skylake for the right price.

>>58350129
It won't. Intel never lowers retail prices (seriously, Haswell hasn't dropped a cent, check it out) and you won't exactly find Skylake on the used market yet.

There's also no reason not to get the 2400MHz RAM on the Skylake system, unless that's a limitation of the H170 chipset. I'm running 2400 overclocked to 2666.

>>58350129
>>58350168
Oh, and important note - if you splurge for a Z170 board and the Skylake chip, there's a chance you can overclock the locked i5. An overclocked i5 6500 will obviously wipe the floor with a stock speed i5 7500. Look up the specific motherboard and "non-K overclocking" to find pertinent info.

>>58349256
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vtJvsJ
R8 my gaming build.

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i just want to play witcher at max settings

>>58350188
I may do that, because then I can OC the RAM, too. I was hoping to avoid overclocking because I don't like introducing additional failure modes, but that might be the only way to up my performance/price ratio if Skylake isn't going to get discounted.

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>>58350233
Dude. Skylake non-K overclocking IS THE BEST MEME.

I had this thing at 4.8GHz but it was running warm and ate voltage like a motherfucker

>>58350259

were you utilizing it or was it just to stress test?

either way, that shit should be sent to intel.

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>>58350259
and the CPU-Z

>>58350270
>>58350272
I ran an hour of Prime95 at 4.8GHz as well as Cinebench (for a score around 510 in R15 multi-thread). It was rock steady.

>>58350231
that's no good, you just threw in the most expensive things you could find didn't you?

>>58350231
Optical drive is shit.

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>>58349991
Well, I would rather G4560 since it's pretty much the i3 6100 but costs $75
This is the only comparison available right now, since the thing isn't even around yet.
http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/298/Intel_Core_i3_i3-6100_vs_Intel_Pentium_Dual-Core_G4560.html

>it will look and feel like shit
It will be better than how I play it rn, 30fps with 47% render scale, it's literally making me go blind. Plus look at this Overwatch run with a G4500 + APU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bBN4LLBO8k
As long as it runs smooth, it will be enough for the time being.

Also, I have been checking craiglist and all but I live in a very rural area, most stuff is at least 100 miles away.

I kind of agree Z170 mobo's are a meme, but it's a good meme to put my money on since it will allow me upgrade for a very long time without having to buy another mobo. Thanks for the warning though, I did not know about the APU shutting down on OC.

>>58350071
I'm spending no more than $450.

>>58350327
>pretty much the i3 6100
No, anon. That's not how Pentiums work.

>>58350287

that's impressive. have you tried to game or render at that clock?

>>58350302

of course. witcher 3 is a very resource heavy game.

but seriously, pcpartpicker allows you to have 24gb vram gpu's in 4-way sli but only sells a mobo that allows 128gb of RAM. what use is that?

>>58350388
Haven't tried rendering but I played about ten - twelve hours of Overwatch on it and it was fine.

>>58350388
solution : buy dual motherboard solution

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I posted this earlier, but the only criticism i received was from someone who talked down on my decision to install 32 GB of ram. I know it's not popular but I'd like to build this computer once, and only once. Could anyone give me any other recommendations?

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>>58350360
Am I not memeing correctly?
It has hyperthreading n sheit, should be pretty dope

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first off, I love that this is a safe haven from /pol/, those inbred fucks cant into techmology, whereas the other boards I've practically given up on with how much retarded shit is posted.

second, I know my cpu is outdated, but is there anything else i should be upgrading after that?

third, my gpu(rx 480) seems to maintain a really high clock speed after exiting a game for no apparent reason. any fixes for this?

>>58350405
i7 if you're going for a million years without swapping hardware

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>>58350415
Pentiums don't have hyperthreading.

Right?

...

HOT DAMN INTEL RELEASED A HYPERTHREADED PENTIUM

>>58350405
why 32 GB RAM instead of an i7?

>>58350421
I see no other upgrade other than the CPU. Maybe getting 8+GB of RAM?

>>58350421
>fleeing from /pol/ shit
>literally brings /pol/ shit in with him
refugees, everyone

>>58350405
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING

aftermarket cooler for locked cpu
aftermarket cooler wont fit into case at all
z170 mobo for locked cpu
3.5 inch drive might fit but you should play it safe
gtx 1080 might be too big

ram is fine but you could just do 16 and then buy more later

build wont even work

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>>58350434
yep, it's a new era
http://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz

>>58350444
yeah, thatd probably be next along with an actual monitor over a TV for higher Hz

>>58350449
filename was a joke, brah. dont have to be seriously invested in racism to make a racist joke

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>>58350451
>skylake
>locked CPUs
did you just ignore the last 30 posts in the thread where people were discussing overclocked non-K chips

>>58350397

but PCPP doesn't allow that

now lolz from them.

>>58350458
>implying anyone cares about racism on 4chan
No, the issue is you bitching about and insulting people you have political disagreements with. Which is all /pol/ is, which is why /pol/ is toxic.

>>58350460
im aware about basclock overclocks

but what the fuck will you do when a bios update removes it

Should I buy haswell or skylake?
Is the improvement really huge?

>>58350473
Flash an archived BIOS. My motherboard came from the factory with a board where baseclocking had been "fixed". A quick flash undid that.

http://overclocking.guide/category/intel-oc-guides/skylake-non-k-oc/

>>58350479
Skylake has memes like DDR4 and native USB3.1 support, which are imho worth it (buying new DDR3 RAM is investing in a dead platform). Performance wise, meh. Kaby lake is definitely not worth it.

>>58350451
>aftermarket cooler because mini atx
>yes it will
http://pcpartpicker.com/b/fkFdnQ
>z170mobo because lots of USB ports
>1080 will fit in this case
http://pcpartpicker.com/b/MgYrxr

You should do some more research

>>58350437

I'm not 100% on the CPU yet. But an I7 would have more heat, and with a big GPU it would be an issue.

>>58350470
I didnt mention my political beliefs, therefore you dont know why I disagree with them

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Are aios worth getting for keeping things quiet?
They seemed to be used in youtube builds lately so Im getting a feeling that it's just marketing

>>58350507
That doesn't excuse you from being a toxic retard
>I love that this is a safe haven from /pol/, those inbred fucks cant into techmology
Nor for that matter does it excuse the fact you can't speak English

>>58350516
>youtube builds
what

>>58350523
someone isnt familiar with Ali G

>>58350528
'here's a review of this thing' videos on youtube
I was looking up innards of a case that I wanted and noticed like all of them had aios

>>58350535
Why the fuck would literally anybody be?

>You must be 18 years or older to view this board

>>58350542
fuck me, i'm going to bed
i read aios and didn't think about watercooling, thought about those shit all-in-one computers

carry on

>>58350548
at worst, "techmology" would be an easy mistake on a keyboard, but its actually a reference to something. sorry i triggered you for mentioning /pol/ that you wanted to call me out on somethign you werent aware of. i dont lurk enough here, except in oc build general, so i shouldnt have assumed you faggots aren't here, too

>>58350568
as if Ali G is relevant now, or when underageds have been alive

>>58350586
You're right, literally nothing Cohen has done other than Borat is or ever will be relevant. My mistake.

>>58350592
so we're agreed

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I posted this earlier, and the only thing somebody said was that I should change my 5400 RPM to an 7200 RPM. I have no budget, and I'm trying to make the best computer I can, without having to mess with it for a long time. Any recommendations or tips? Still very new to this.

Im gonna try again

my RX 480 maintains a high clock speed after exiting a game for no reason, why is this?

its been going on the whole time Ive had it, which has spanned 2 or 3 updates

>>58350627
Get a faster 1TB hard drive, unless you torrent metric shit tonnes of Hentai you literally don't need 1TB, much less 2

Or, two 1TB hard drives, and use one to backup the other.

>>58350634
it wants to make sure firefox is fast too

>>58350649
I was going to do video editing, which can eat up memory combined with storing games.

>>58350665
That's fair enough. If you're going for the lowest possible maintenance system I'd consider a good aircooler instead of the watercooling loop (less moving parts to fail) and I'd definitely get a second hard drive for backups (if you need any extra space you can scrap your backups and just use the drive)

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Took some advice from the last thread and updated my build. Couldn't find cheaper memory at 8GB or higher so I just kept it as is. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm open. A bit torn between whether or not I should get one of the i7s or stick with the i5 6500.

>>58350661
hopefully this is a legitimate response Im replying to. i use Opera browser because supposedly its pretty light. I also have Dreamscene, the active desktop wallpaper for windows 7, which probably doesnt help, but it shouldnt be in the range of 500 to 800 to 1300 MHz

>>58350679
Any specific parts you recommend?

>>58350627
Short of part failure, the only thing that might possibly force you to update this is the RAM. If you really want to not have to touch this build and you have no budget, going up to 2x16GB RAM would be like a 5% price increase for a (I'm just SWAGing, but) >40% reduction in the chances you'd have to update this in the next 4-5 years.

>>58350702
Noctua DH15. Fuck huge, but it will actually perform on par with your H100 loop.

>>58350716
Also, huge upside to buying Noctua is that they have insane Austrian customer service that will send you mounting brackets for new sockets free of charge if you ever upgrade

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972.73
Should all of this cost this much? Will Ryzen hold a stick to Jewtel or should I go ahead and purchase these items?

I'm coming from a FX-6300 and GTX 760. I just want a constant 100+ fps in WoW, GTA, and Skyrim. Other open world games too like Fallout 4, The Witcher Series etc.

>>58350716
>>58350735
Sounds good! Thank you! If you had no budget, what would be your optimal build?

>>58350757
There's a good chance that holding out for Ryzen will do something good for you, either because Ryzen itself is good or because it forces a price war. But it's not a sure thing, so it probably isn't worth holding out if you aren't currently content.

>>58350794
I mean I'm pretty happy with my build right now as it is, but I was looking at something to throw my tax return at and this sprung to mind. I'll wait for Ryzen for sure now though.

>>58350782
This question actually goes to everyone.

I just built (still building) my first ever PC. What do you think of it so far?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ItsDeko/saved/#view=yTgJxr

(Haven't put in the CPU fan because I'm waiting on my Video Card to come in the mail.)

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>>58350855
forgot the image

>>58350855

nice build for 1080p max settings. but my only comment is that you picked a mobo with sli support in the title, but you picked a car that can't do sli.

but realistically, this is just a matter of swapping the card for a new one

but, quality build. it will treat you well.

>>58350843

i7 6700k
Z170 mobo with bluetooth support and wifi
gtx 1080's in sli
4x8GB of DDR4-3200 RAM

and a nice, quiet watercooling system.

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the safe operating temps of the SSD designate a rather worrisome minimum of only 0 C. Well, there's a good chance that the package will arrive while im not there and it will be under 0 C. Will it be bricked by those temps even though it's not operating or even opened yet? I feel like probably it will be. Also, if I go on vacation for a long time do I need to waste money on heating a house I'm not even in just to make sure the thing doesn't turn into an icicle while I'm away?

>>58350421
Your cpu might be old but it's still 4c8t. I wouldn't upgrade until ryzen and vega are out. Maybe look for used RAM to double that 6GB cheap.

>>58351075
>ryzen and vega
idk much about cpus, but ive heard alot of shit talked about AMD cpus. do you mean i should wait to see how these turn out, or that theyre implementing something new that makes them better(as in not overheat, as thats what the meme about amd cpus is)? Im somewhat of a poorfag, so Im not looking into anything too near into the future. my uncle actually built this computer for himself in 2010, then gave it to me, and since then the memory and gpu have been upgraded

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>>58349256
>58349755
Is there

Any reason to do dual 140mm radiator instead of just one

I just want my 6700k at 4.6-7 GHz

This shit is already $90

>>58351132
fucking air cooling can do that without an issue. your cpu isn't going to be running at 100% load all day. the only reason you'd buy that is for the aesthetic guts. nothing more.

>>58351198
It will be in a video game

That's what this is about

>>58351273
>It will be in a video game

literally never ever. I'm being serious. it will come under load, but never 100% in a real world scenario. and even then, air cooling does the same fucking shit but cheaper. again it's all about a s s t h e t i x

>>58351062
pls respond

>>58351290
OK it is

But it's only a bit more ($20) or a decent 140mm cooler so I can't see the trouble

>>58351316
it's your money.

to answer your original question, no, there is no reason.

>>58351330
Why the fuck does dual rad exist in most /BST/ builds then?

Why do we even have towers with consistently huge rad support? Is it all meaningless unless you are OC your chip an entire GHz beyond somehow?

>>58351355
some people only care about having the absolute best numbers in a benchmark. dual rads are for memers who need to have the highest possible ghz with the lowest possible temps, and then spend most of their time on these machines shitposting on 4chan.

put yourself in perspective. what are you really doing with this machine most of the time? do you need dual rad and 5 ghz overclock? is that going to make your 106070/80/ti better in a way you're even going to notice? are you doing nothing but compressing large amounts of files all god damn day, or are you just spending money to have a higher number for no discernible reason?

yeah you can have dual rad if you want. your cpu will be cooler, your overclock will be about +200 ghz better. you will notice absolutely fucking nothing, but if that's what you want, go for it. chances are you'll spend the money on that, and then half ass a more important part of your build. cater to your needs, not to your wants.

>>58351062
Im not totally sure, But I would bet that lower temps in general are totally fine, and any temperature under 100C is fine under non-operation

>>58351392
Half assed my PSU and it was literally fucking death

Got that replaced though. 140mm should satisfy me

>>58351432
better have been full modular or bust my nigger

don't disappoint me now

>>58351440
RMx 650

>>58351449
good lad

>>58351454
Insane coil whine with three different GPU and replacing the PSU CX750m completely eliminated coil whine

I feel like this should be more obvious a solution for people with this common problem

>>58351459
>CX750m

literally bought one of these for a friend of mine, same fucking problem. rmx got rid of it completely. you did the right thing.

>>58351469
I was almost hesitant to buy any Corsair PSU after that shit holy fuck

I even got an EVGA FTW 1070 instead because I was sure the poor Asus STRIX just had awful VRAM whine

>>58351128
>do you mean i should wait to see how these turn out
Yes. If AMD don't deliver, just get Kaby Lake. IIRC cpus should get released around Feb.

GPU wise RX 480 is pretty good, AMD just gave preview of the new gpu architecture (Vega) at CES. No info about release dates yet.

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Mr cheapskate here.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/rVbNsJ

Any issues with this? Obviously it is budget. Probably not gonna game, but if I do then later I might buy a 1050 to go in it. One thing I wonder is, the b150m motherboard is only a few dollars more than the h110m but is there any advantage?

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Toughts on this please? It's a build a friend made for me (I'm a complete ignorant when it comes to PC building and I need a second opinion on this). I want the PC for playing games like witcher 3 or dark souls and he says it should be enough to run them on high settings.

https://www.wipoid.com/pcconf/35c8f68217b45/
It's from a spanish store, because I'm from Spain, but you can easily read the components. Anyways if you don't understand anything ask me.

Thanks beforehand.

>>58351731
There's usually not any advantage on a higher priced motherboard other than "it has more RAM slots" or something.

Just get the one that fits your parts and it should be okay. Check reviews though. If the one you picked has 250 2 star reviews, don't get it.

>>58351972
>250 2 star reviews
Oh right, thanks. I didn't even notice that.

Can someone help me here?

Just built my first computer and it wont turn on.

The motherboard LEDs come on and theres a blue light next to the 8 pin on my GPU (I think that means it has power)

The system doesn't boot, when I go to the power button on the top on my case when I press it the GPU RGB lights turn on for a split second and the back case fan starts spinning.

Everything is plugged in. Could I have missed something? why does it only turn on for a split second then off again, I don't really want to do it again because I feel like ive shorted the system or something.

>>58352496
to clarify when I press the power button the Case fan and the GPU fan turn on for a split second and turn back off. The CPU fan doesn't move its plugged into CPU_FAN. Does this mean that the CPU is fucked?

>>58351933
If you have budget for that, change to 1060 6gb or rx480 8gb, rest is ok

>>58352496
Holy shit. Now I'm considering buying a prebuilt.

>>58352654
You fucked up kiddo.

>>58352496
In my case, swapping cpu power 2x2 molex helped, try that. Also post full specs

>>58352711
i5 6600k
Noctua NH-u14s
Asus z170 Pro gaming
Asus 1070
Corsair 16gb 3200mhz

>>58352702
???

I installed the cpu correctly.

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Hello /pcbg/
What motherboard should I buy for my budget gaming console?
ASRock Z170 Pro4S or Asus Z170-P?
CPU is i5 6400 (and yes it's totally overclockable).

>>58352761
Take that asus one, should be k

>>58352711
cant switch the 2x2 molex only goes in one way, i'll check the front panel connectors maybe

>>58352794
I meant i had two 2x2 molex bricks which could go to cpu_pwr, and had exactly same problem like you, and using that 2nd one solved my problem

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Want to carry over my gtx970 into a new multimedia work machine. Budget is around 1k. How does this look like, and are there any improvements both performance and pricing wise?

I'm working with video editing and real time rendering. Please help me out making a good decision

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tFLvsJ

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what thermal paste should I go with?
i want to do a cpu upgrade and the new cpu won't come with a stock cooler

im about to buy an i5 7600k and use it in a gigabyte Z170x UD5 MotherBoard with 3000mhz Corsair Vengeance lpx ddr4 ram.

will the cpu be handicapped by backward compatibility limitation? (im gonna update the motherboard bios)

How often do people fuck up builds?

I'm thinking of getting a 7700k with the Asus Z270H or E and a Be Quiet Pure Rock. Am I fucking anything up with this combination?

>>58352786
Thanks.

>>58352934
idk, but im going to assume most times its because they try to buy the cheapest version of something that doesnt have the bells and whistles the rest of their system needs.

>>58352886
Noctua NH-T1 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut is what i'd recommend.

>>58352927
Buy the 6600K, OC'd to 4.5 GHz both CPUs perform virtually the same. Intel is completely jewing you with Kaby Lake.

>>58352998
Yes, you need a better cooler, thermals on Kaby Lake suck ass. You should also get a 6700K + Z170 mobo since it's cheaper, cooler and when OC'd performs almost equally.

>>58353184
If I were to get a Kaby Lake, what cooler would be better than the Pure Rock? Also, I'm not sure I'm going to OC and the improved HEVC encoding sounds good considering I work with video a lot. Still, I can't quite decide between the 7700k or 6700k.

Please recommend me a laptop.

Main uses: media, programming.
Desired specs:
ssd ~200gb, i5, no gpu, 1080p, 15" screen.
Not an apple product.

Budget ~700 euro.

Please recommend a PC for mostly programming. I'll probably use Linux for the first time too. It'll be used for university work too.

Budget is 650 GBP

Thanks all in advance

What would be the lowest tier on logicalincrements that would be a meaningful upgrade from an i5 3570? Assume that I already have a GPU, SSD, HDD, PSU, and case.

>>58352934
Not often at all. From what I've seen in /sqt/, it's more often that a component is dead on arrival than someone has fucked their system. I'd guess the most common true fuck-up is accidentally shocking a component with built-up static electricity. This can easily be mitigated by not building on a carpet with socks on, and touching a ground (door handle, case of plugged-in PC, basically anything that you notice gives you a shock) before you start building. If you're truly paranoid, get an anti-static bracelet, they can't be more than $10.

If you watch any PC build instructional video, you will know what to expect, and if it's a good video, it will point out common pitfalls, so if you're thinking of building a PC, do that.

>>58352678
>If you have budget for that
Do you mean I could play those games on a cheaper budget?

>>58353328
If you want to OC then something big, from Be Quiet this would be the Dark Rock 3.
>I can't quite decide between the 7700k or 6700k
6700K it is. The 7700K has absolute shit value

>>58353469
Thank you very much for your advice.

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Alright /g/ it's taken me 3 weeks of looking at fucking review websites but I think I'm settled on my parts.

It's a $1000 budget audio PC.
In the future I may buy a video card but for now I only need integrated graphics

Yes I know it's expensive for what I'm getting- that's Australia for you

>>58353693
>audio production
>uses Intel stock cooler
WWWWWWRWRRRRRRRRRRRRWRWRRRRRRRR

Z170 or Z270?

>>58353762
Oh shit, that's a bit of an oversight
What aftermarket coolers should I be looking at? How much should I be spending?

I have an i5 2500k, a GTX760, and 16gb of RAM. Games work fine at 1200p. Is there any reason to upgrade until 2020?

>>58353762
Normally you keep the PC in a different room and have just the cables enter the room you work in.

>>58353808
What games, and what graphical settings? Just curious.

>>58353795
>>58353816
Not much for a locked CPU, see links below for examples:
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/cwPzK8/be-quiet-cpu-cooler-bk009
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/LPVBD3/cryorig-cpu-cooler-m9i
If you keep the PC in a different room it's, i've no fucking clue about audio production whatsoever.

>>58353816
Well if that's true then maybe he doesn't need a $170 case.

>>58353832
Keep in mind that I didn't bother overclocking my 2500k, while it's easy to do so.
Doom 2016 gives me solid 45fps with some rare drops on high-ish settings (some things are ultra, some things like bloom or HDR are disabled, some are high, a mess overall).
Skyrim on ultra's with a bunch of graphics mods and texture packs gives me 50fps with some drops, sometimes even a bit below 30fps, but that's rare.
Dota 2 Source 2 gives me a solid 60fps without a single drop.
I don't really play all that many new releases, so not sure what other examples to give.

>>58353856
Right, Dota 2 is obviously on all the max settings. And it's probably not higher than 60 only because I have vsync.

>>58353845
Thanks so much.
>>58353816
lol I won't be doing that. This is a bedroom studio

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Is Kabylake a meme for PC building? Thought this might be the year to upgrade my PC but I'm not sure I'll get any tangible benefit.

>>58353693
that ram is overkill and your motherboard wont utilize it.

any DDR4-2133 ram is what it will use, anything faster will just be wasted.

also since youre not throw much into the case anyway, maybe get a cheaper case.

i dont know how much stuff costs in Australia.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rp7cBP

-General and Gaming
-Ausfailia
-no budget

pls r8/h8

>x201
>8GB ddr3 RAM
>160 GB SSD
>12 inch screen
>Intel Core i5 M520 - 2.4 / 2.93 GHz
They also include a dockstation in the price.
>389$
worth it or not?

>>58353932
>Is Kabylake a meme for PC building?
Kaby Lake is DOA. Either get a Skylake build or wait for Zen.

>>58352872
Anyone got spare time to help me out? Cheers in advance

>>58353816
you dont really need an aftermarket cooler if you arent Overclocking the CPU.

>>58354012
The 2400 is $5 more expensive than the 2133 so I'm not worried about that
And yeah I'm aware the case is overkill but I'm fairly set on it

>>58354055
Fug's sake. OK, I guess I'll wait.

>>58354069
I want to keep it as quiet as possible. From what I've heard intel's stock coolers tend to be a bit noisy so I don't mind getting an aftermarket

>>58354140
seems good, if quiet is what youre going for.

if youre getting a quiet aftermarket cooler inside a very quiet case, with a cool running cpu.

the only thing i could add is that there are Power Supplies, like that Corsair RM###x series, that dont even start the fan until they are under load. but holy fuck they are expensive in Australia.

>>58354337
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/rmx-series-rm750x-750-watt-80-plus-gold-certified-fully-modular-psu

I have an i5 4690s and a GTX 950.

Should I nab a K i5/i7 first, or an RX 470/480? I plan to try a dual monitor setup down the line, and I might just stick to 1080p gaming-wise.

>>58354337
Yeah I don't think I'll be spending more on my PSU than I already am. That SilverStone has great reviews and is the most I want to spend on a PSU
The case will dampen a lot of the sound and that will probably be the loudest thing in my build

Already noticing a very few price drops on 1070 and 1080s, think they'll be more commonplace after CES?

Any recommendations on a 1080p 144hz TN display that has decent colors/contrast?

I understand that there's the trade off with a TN monitor, but I'm wondering if there are better or worse options.

I plan on getting a 1440p in the future but I just don't have the cash for a 1440p monitor that ALSO has a high refresh rate.

nice video game consoles itt :^)

>>58354543
Thanks

>>58354389
gpu first for sure

>>58354478
Where?

Is it better/worse to have 1 8GB stick of RAM rather than 2x4GB?
Is there any difference?

>>58355217
The 8Gb stick gives you more expansion room, the two 4Gb sticks will give you noticeably higher performance (but once you get a second 8Gb stick the performance is equal)

>>58355001
Couple on Amazon for gigabyte and I think there was an MSI one yesterday, some other shit I was linked for zotac

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>>58355254
>noticeably

>>58355271
How much though?
Everything online says its on sale
>1070 was 899.99 now only $400 what a steal goyim!

This is the ONLY sub $1K build any of you should be considering
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2xgYf8
You're welcome

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>>58355397
>t. Intel shill
Fuck off with your Kaby Lake shit aka rebranded Skylake.

>>58355397
>$180 for an overclockable i3
>current i3s overclock well on Z170 already
>6500 is just as much money
Shill all you want but $180 was a bad move by Intel, they could've had AMD bankrupt and finished if they priced this better.
Also the 600p is a poor choice for NVME drives

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MkHVf8

Limited to my local pc store and this is what they have.

>>58355966
Switch that overpriced nuclear reactor that the 7600K is out for a 6600K, they perform the same at 4.5GHz.

>>58355397
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmRfVY

A stronger build for $100 cheaper. You're welcome

>>58356041
Its only $20 more, plus they don't have the 6600K in stock and won't restock it.

>>58349256
can u oc 7000 series intel non K cpus, like 6000 series non K?

>>58356350
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cmRfVY
>i5-6400 with a Z170 board
FYI 6400 won't overclock that well, it's been shown that those silicon really are worthless pieces of shit meant for the lowest-bidding corporate users. Getting to 3.5GHz is a tall order for those SKUs. Kaby Lake is superior in all aspects when it comes to high core and BCLK frequency adjustments and a 7350K can be overclocked beyond 4.5GHz, making it inherently superior even over four physical cores.

>>58356436
You can't even do that now with updated bios'es

How much will i3-6100 differ from i5-6500 when it comes to performance in for example GTA5 or Witcher 3?

>>58356470
>well you can easily downgrade on most mobos.

>>58356526
But Z270?

>>58356526
>mobo needs latest bios to run 7000 series cpu

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>>58356418
>only $20 more
>for the same CPU
>with worse thermals
>they won't restock it
I suggest you stop buying from jewish sellers and change that cuck-ish mindset of yours.

>>58356650
ok city dweller

Please help me pick a gpu to finish this build, new or used <$200
gaming pc for the old lady, Witcher 3, FO4, other new rpgs and single player games

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wKb4Ps

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>>58356659
oops 1080p, have a freesync monitor. Ready to buy.

>>58349256
If I want to upgrade to kaby lake will I need Win10? I use 7 and don't particularly want to "upgrade" to 10. All I can find is that it won't be supported, which I don't really care about, I just play gaems and haven't updated Windows in years.

>>58356650
>>with worse thermals
Where is this info?

>>58356827
Literally every single benchmark and video about Kaby Lake recently on youtube and the internet.

>>58356893
Nice sources.

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>>58356465
>it's been shown
Where?

A reliable Kabylake OC would be around 4.8Ghz on average. Meanwhile 4.5 on skylake. This is Hyper212 OC, with more expensive OC, you can reach 5Ghz and 4.8Ghz on Skylakes.

>>58356893
They both have a TDP of 91w if I recall correctly.

>>58356902
>4.5 on Skylake
4.8GHz is stable on my 6100.

>>58356901
>i can't read
Nice meme, Intel shill.

>>58356940
Temperatures, not TDP. Kaby Lake runs hotter than Skylake does while achieving the same performance @4.5GHz.

>>58356995
>I'm retarded
Nice sources you have posted.

>>58356995
Burden of proof is on you ayyyymd shill

>>58356465
>7350K can get 4.5GHz!!!
>Meanwhile i3 6100s routinely smashing that by 2-300MHz

I know new suit is coming out, but I'd rather wait till this new parts are cheaper. I'm just going to be playing video games anyway.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CLxzXH

>>58357044
>$325 for 6600K
That's the same price for the 7600K here out in the sticks

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>>58357093
?

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>>58357029
>Intels new potato chip
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-i7-7700-i5-7600k-i5-7600,4870.html
>Kaby Lake hitting 100°C @4.8GHz being cooled by a Kraken X61
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-review/1100-6446489/
>Kaby Lake hitting 99°C @4.8GHz being cooled by a Corsair H110i GT
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/luke-hill/intel-core-i7-7700k-i5-7600k-kaby-lake-cpu-review/9/

Enjoy your oven, Intel kike.

>>58357192
I see you are dyslexic

>>58356902
>Where?
Go onto overclocking forums. There are quite a few people who bought the 6400 over the 6500 and 6600 in the hopes of getting a better value for their money with a four core, but couldn't get past 3.7GHz. Meanwhile, 6500s have been breaching the 4.0GHz barrier routinely. I think the 6405P can get higher overclocks than the 6400, but there aren't that many people who've bought them for a rough average (two samples I've seen have gotten up to 3.8GHz, but that's just two samples).

>>58357195
good puppet, dance some more

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>>58357016
See >>58357195 and enjoy your housefire.

>>58357234
Nice argument, Intel shill. Nobody is falling for your shilling.

>>58357217

Elaborate

>>58357253
7600

I have a 4770k and a z77 board, oc'd to 4.6ghz. was thinking about refreshing to something more current but trying to keep the budget within reason. Is there even a reason to? Everything works fine.

If theres no need to uograde i was thinking about ricing out my guts and getting some meme cables and a closed loop when i get my income tax refund. Any recommendations on that front?

>>58357280
>I have a 4770k and a z77 board
No you don't

>>58357262

OH

OH

>>58357280
>Is there even a reason to?
No. save your money.

>>58357248
So you are saying that if I don't overclock it, just like I didn't overclock my 6600K. It will be fine and have the same temps as the 6600K?

>>58357498
MSY, Umart both have them.

>>58357299
Yes i do. Asrock z77 extreme 4 and tge cpu is delidded.

>>58357386
Figured. Never had this much time between builds before. 4770k was bretty good.

Any help on those other fronts? The objective is to slowly soundproof the box and make it look a bit nicer. Have a 500r but the thing is full of holes and the "increased airflow" doesnt actually do anything.

>>58357533
That's literally impossible. Z77 is an LGA1155 socket board. 4770K is an LGA1150 socket CPU.

>>58357248
A throttled kaby lake at 100c still beats a shitty ayyymd cpu anyday.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/4vyDnn Could I get a rate on this? It's gonna be my first build so I'm kind of going the safe route.
Thanks!

>>58357195
>all on z170 mobos

>>58357093
>>58357262

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FPr9nn

Better?

>>58357601
>nvidia and a kaby lake

HOUSEFIRE!

>>58357562
Oh hey youre right. Guess i have the 3770k then. Well.. still no reason to upgrade from that is there?

>>58357676
Should I get a 6700k instead? I haven't owned an 6700k and the upgrade to the 7700k was about $20-$30 so I was like, "why not?".

How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cjkh2R

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i7-7700k-kaby-lake-overclocking-update,33119.html

>using a shitty motherboard 170 chipset causes temp issues

>>58357701
How the fuck do you not know what CPU you have?

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>>58353460
$200 thinkpad then spend the rest on a nice mech keyboard

>>58357762
Might want a bit more wattage on that psu for when games get heavy. If you don't have enough your pc will bluescreen and crash.

>>58357894
Been a while since I've even bothered looking at my internals and I'm foneposting right now.

I think that intel kaby lake is a big improvement due to Optane support, improvement of RAM speed, improvement of clock rate, and faster and cooler processor. You also know this processor is the best around for overclocking, better than skylake. So, this is a great news for many, those who want more speed can buy anything K and overclock.

>>58357760

Don't listen to retards. These threads have been hijacked by retards from /v/.

>>58357232
>overclocking forum
So retards that don't know how to BCLK overclock and GAYMERS?

>>58358004
No, hobbyists that have been overclocking since the original Pentiums and Athlons.

Has anyone made a build using a cooler master haf xb? The horizontal mb looks like a cool idea.

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>>58357248
ok memester, whatever you say

>>58357965
Ironically shilling is still shilling

>>58357427
No, that's not what i'm saying.
>just like I didn't overclock my 6600K
Buying an unlocked CPU to not OC it is retarded.

>>58357563
>assuming i use an AMD CPU
>still no arguments
>t. Intel shill
Nice try, kike. Nobody is buying your shit rebranded Skylake CPUs with shit thermals for a higher price.

>>58357635
>>58357799
>Z170 is somehow a bad thing
>Intel confirmed full compatibility
Nice try, shill.

>>58358051
>ignore other links
>posts picture
>still proves my point that Kaby Lake runs much hotter
What a friendly shill.

>>58358095
>Buying an unlocked CPU to not OC it is retarded.
When the K and non-k are much the same price it is a moot point plus the k runs faster stock

>>58358095
>>assuming i use an AMD CPU
did intel reneg on your 401k?

>>58358095
>poorfag: the post

So if I have 400$ to spend on a GPU my only real option is a 1070? Why didn't AMD release a 490?

>Locked and loaded on the Z170A Gaming Pro Carbon, Core i7-7700K power numbers begin to fall in line with expectations set forth by Intel, when it added only a few watts TDP compared to the Core i7-6700K. It looks like the Z170X-Ultra Gaming firmware needs a little more work.

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>>58358134
>>58358138
>not an argument
Nice try shills.

>>58358160
LMAO, stay poor and enjoy your A10

Is 10000rpm HDD a meme?

>>58358166
>still no argument
>t. butthurt intel shill
TOPGOY.

>>58358191
One day you can buy a non babby cpu and enjoy real world speeds too

Is there supposed to be a gap between the io shield and motherboard?

>>58358027
Keep telling yourself that retard. Trusting retards make you a retard.

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>>58358215
>buy the newest Intel™ Kaby Lake™ CPU with 0.0000001% performance increase, goy!
>unironically being a butthurt intel shill
Nice meme, m8.

>>58358238
if its no more than a few mm then it's fine

>>58358190
Why do you need one of those when SSDs exist?

>>58358261
10% but meme away and post your dads pictures some more

>>58358282
>10%
Not if you OC, then you have virtually no performance improvement whatsoever, but keep telling yourself Intel doesn't shit in it's customers.

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I'm currently running a i5-4670 and EVGA 1060.

It seems like Kaby is a fucking mess. Will it be worth upgrading my PC and GPU later this year?

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>>58358264
Heres a pic

>>58358338
I'm sure an overheating and throttled kaby lake will still beat anything ayymd puts fort this year.

>>58358346
looks good

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how outdated is my shit

i have plenty of expendable money, I'm thinking of just making a new one altogether

>>58358338
>Will it be worth upgrading my PC and GPU later this year?
Currently it's generally a bad time to upgrade but if you want to upgrade this year then wait for Zen, see how it performs and then either get Zen, cheap Skylake or wait for whatever comes next.

>>58358389
Thx senpai, this is only my second pc (last time was seven years ago)

I thought it was just me being a pleb back then but I guess this is one of those little aesthetic nitpicks of custom puters

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>>58358338
Just use a Z270 and you will have no issues

Does one really need 16gb of ram to game?

>>58358503
4gb master race here

>>58358503
not right now but soon

>>58358527
So getting 2 sticks of 8gb would probably save me a purchase in the future.

>>58358472
>Skylake mobos will be perfeclty fine for Kaby Lake
>has to buy new mobo or live with a housefire
>Z270 mobos can have issues causing high temps by supplying stupid >1.4V
>has to manually audit all settings
>after manually fixing it Kaby Lake still runs hotter than Skylake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLxPjoY6QgE
THANKS BASED INTEL, PLEASE TAKE MY GOOD GOY SHEKELS.

>>58358662
It's ok, being poor is shameful.

>>58358503
I think you do. Forza Apex loads much faster than on a 8GB configuration.

>>58358695
>criticising Intel for ripping off customers somehow makes you poor
I think you're on the wrong board, kiddo.
>>>/v/
>>>/b/

>>58358737
You should move to Russia, capitalism isn't for you.

>>58358750
>supporting a monopoly is good for the free market
Typical brandcuck, i bet you also buy Apple™ products.

>>58358820
enjoy your A10

>>58358831
>t. brandcuck shill
Take that dick deep up your ass, faggot.

>>58358890
Enjoy your A10.

>>58358900
>no arguments
>posts same shill shit over and over again
Your Intel™ Kaby Lake™ isn't going to run any cooler or better than Skylake regardless of how hard you try.
>paying """"premium"""" for this shit

>>58357910
I've heard Thinkpad crop up a few times. I'll look into them

What about mech keyboards? Got any recommendations? I'm no good with them.

>>58358913
Sorry you are poor, what more do you want.

I will wipe my ass with a benjamins face just for you.

>>58358952
>no argument
>hurr u poor xDDD durr
I am not m8 and you still have not a single argument, shill.

>>58358978
ok sonny, sorry you are mad jelly of others that can afford new tech.

>this poor autist getting rekt by a shitty troll

>>58358991
But i can, shill, and you still have not a single argument for Kaby Lake, Skylake is the better option.

>>58358978
>>58358978
>don't like what I don't like

>>58359025
Say shill some more, you like it. Maybe you get paid per shill?

Now you only need to say it some more and you can afford a new ayyymd cpu.

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I know >prebuilt but I can't be assed to spend an hour building one myself

y/n, can pick one up in a few minutes

>>58359025
no need to lie on the internet, pajeet

>>58359056
If you want to throw money away just get AMD gear

>>58359028
>he likes to pay """premium""" for a worse product

>>58359051
>hurr u poor
>hurr u only use AMD
No and no, shill.

>>58359065
Wrong board Mr. xXxshadow_warrior_1337xXx.
>>>/v/

>>58359091
stay poor

>>58358419
Wow, that sucks.

>>58359091
Whatever you say, pajeet.

I bet the TIM on Kaby Lake is fucked and you need to de lid them. It is the same CPU with a newer onboard graphics.

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>>58359105
>>58359117
>>58359118
>t. butthur shills
I guess Intel is outsourcing it's shill force to CTR just as Hillary did.
Enjoy your $1/h paychecks you virgin NEET cucks.

Spec me a PC case please.

Budget: Up to £150
Cooling: Air

Prefer a case with good amount of fans / cooling as I don't have any custom fans bought.

Would appreciate good build quality. Maybe no shiny plastic as it gets scratched up over time (like the top of my Z11 Plus - the sides are fine though, they're sort of a matte plastic which I like).

Currently have a Zalman Z11 Plus which is fine but It's a case I've had for some time and I want to try and get a case where It's easier to tidy up cable management and clean dust. FYI I don't have a modular PSU.

>>58359160
Some more buzzwords, how unexpected. Is that all the english they teach you in India?

>>58359163
Oh and GPU clearance of 285mm at minimum.

>>58359178
Stop feeding the retarded /pol/ immigrant.

>>58359160
>>58359117
Why'd you quote me? I'm complaining about Intel fucking up this year.

>finally get interested in upgrading PC
>Intel fuck up
>Nvidia GPUs aren't even interesting
>AMD is still AMD

>>58359178
>Some more buzzwords
>poor
>india
>pajeet
>ayymd
How unexpected.

>>58359213
poor pajeet, you must get paid per word.

>>58359224
Idk, you must now, how are CTR policies on being paid?

>>58359213
/pol/ wants you back

>>58359251
You seem to know it all, why don't you tell us.

>>58359266
/v/ wants you back, i believe they will accept a like minded brandcuck.

>>58359279
Because i'm not the shill defending a dead on arrival CPU generation.

>>58359324
>CPU generation
It is the same as Skylake. You are one dumb cunt. No wonder you browse /pol/.

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>>58359373
>Skylake 6th generation
>Kaby Lake 7th generation
>hurr /pol/ boogeyman durr
I see, you are just another illiterate autist.

>>58359449
I see you are a product of american education.

>>58359472
>asumes i am a pajeet
>asumes i am american
>asumes i only use AMD
>no arguments given
I wish you luck getting far in life with that double digit IQ.

I cant tell which side my ram is supposed to go in (facing,) and it slides out easy either way

>>58359549
Thanks, sure has obviously worked out for you.

>>58359555
The notch isn't in the middle, it only goes in one way.

>>58359555
you are dumber than an AMD shill

>>58359605
Figured that out on my own but it still slides out, like if I held my computer with ram slots aiming down the ram would probably fall out

Guess I need to apply some pressure. Fingers crossed boys

>>58359606
Even if I am dumb I have an iq of 116 ;P

>>58359657
>Kaby Lake system builder

>>58359657
Push until you can clip in the sides. It's pretty forceful, I was worried I would break it when I first changed ram

>>58359690
ok friend, whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep at night

>>58359577
>no u
Don't strain yourself.

>>58359705
I just got it to clip in using the minimum force... still heard a little pcb crackle :x

>>58359719
Had it done professionally m8

Lol I probably shouldnt be building this with the window open in january

>>58349948
missed out on all the sales bud, that would've helped your price a bit.

>>58359825
>Had it done professionally m8
IQ tests prove you learnt how to memorize well.

So it's one autist arguing with himself as he didn't know how to put a computer together.

Does this build seem okay? And can I get some advice on a monitor?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z3gCZ8

>>58360317
This is for average to higher end gaming, by the way. Dont really care about 4k so long as games run well on high settings and look good.

>>58360333
So this is for 4K high settings?

>>58360358
This will be my first pc. If I can cut corners thatd be awesome as 4k is not something I need for my pc.

>>58360125
Who?

>>58360375
Be more specific. Is this a 720p machine? A 4K machine? A 1080p? 1440p?