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/hpg/ - Headphone General

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~~ PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE ~~

>Headphone purchase advice
http://pastebin.com/fYZLW7Ub

Please put some effort into your requests and questions.
If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

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>>58232154
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First for X2
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>Budget
£100-£200, flexible, but not more than £300
>Location
UK
>Source
Digital Piano (6.35mm / 1/4 inch)
>Type of headphone
Full-sized over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Very comfortable
>Sound signature
Neutral - for classical music/piano
>Other
Detachable, single sided cable
Helpful if it comes with a 3m cable and 1/4 inch adapter/jack, but I can buy those separately if needed
They don't need to have a high impedance
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>>58249155
7506 isn't a detachable cable, but probably what you want
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Is the Fidelio X2 good for weebshit music?
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>>58249141
Best.

>>58249513
Yes.
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Gonna try asking one more time, would I be better off with a pair of 7506's + detachable cable mod or M40x + HM5 pads? Would primarily be used for traveling. As a side note I've had a pair of M40's before and hated the clamp, are the M40x's any better in that regard, particularly with more comfortable pads?
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Good wireless earbuds for under $40?

I need something for when I exercise.
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>>58249705
No such thing exists, check again in a few years.
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Yo boys, bought this today on a 37% discount, because I was going to flip it for profit. But after having a closer look and testing it, I have to say that I do actually like it.
Build quality is 9.5/10. It feels very premium, even the box and stuff.
Sound is 6.5/10 but the bass is pretty good. I listen to black people's music anyways.
And it looks nice alright. I would have liked it better in black tho.
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>>58249141
Ye
I am finally hpg now
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>>58249790
Look at him and laugh.
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>>58249705
KZ hd

but you could just use KZ ATE S
I run fine with them, they're super comfy for it
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>>58249813
>>58249705
HDSE I mean
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>>58249790
>liking beats
please end yourself or cut your ears off, as you clearly don't use or need them
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>>58249705

this guy's right >>58249813
I use kz's (ate and atr) for calisthenics and they stay in perfectly
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>>58249141
17th for L2
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With all the wireless memes today why doesn't anyone design that shit the other way around? We know that what eats battery life isn't so much the playback but transmitting the wireless signal itself. Why not create some lightweight IEMs on a diadem like pic related, with the storage, dac, player and battery built in? The wireless part would be the controller with its screen and buttons as usual. This way the signals are sent only when you use the controller. I bet with something refined of the sort, the wireless meme could actually become viable for everyday outdoor use.
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what is the best quality ear-buds I can get for under 30$?

My skullcandy earbuds shit themselves
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>>58250000
How are those compares to X2? They always seemed to be in a pretty strange position in the market to me.
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>>58250032
SoundMagic PL30.
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>>58250032
VE Monk+ assuming earbuds=non-silicone tipped earphone
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>>58250038
They're the "on-the-go" relative. Less bass and less soundstage, but smaller and lighter.
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>>58250085
Yeah but they aren't closed-back, not something you'll use outdoors so I don't quite understand the point.
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>>58249155
Senal BAKA-1000. Might get some different pads though
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First for best headphone.
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>>58250032
>>58250059
>>58250062

Shit, let me rephrase myslef.

what is the best quality silicone tipped earphone I can get for under 30$, that can take a beating?
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>>58250032
>that can take a beating
none

otherwise kz ate s
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>>58250123
>BAKA
kek
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>>58250103
Yeah, their positioning is a bit weird. They're definitely intended for mobile use though, since they come with an additional cable with an inline mic/remote.

They're just slightly cheaper than the X2, a lot smaller, lighter, and more semi-open than fully open.
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>>58250232

Anything with one of those volume control things?
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>>58250320
not if you want good sound at that price point
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>>58249141
whats so great about these? Just the fact that they're v shaped open backs with a good build?
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>>58249666
M40x clamp is the same as M40. Thicker pads like the HM5's will increase it.

That said, it's fairly common practice to just stretch tighter claming headphones over some books, a box, or a pillow, or anything similar. 7506 clamp is similar to M40x as well.

Personally, I'd recommend MSR7 pads if you dont want the tight clamp, as they're not as thick, but still comfortable, and then stretch the headphones over a pillow or something.
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>>58250346

Keep in mind, I'm no audiophile, kind of a newb, and only have a /few/ flac albums on my phone.

Whats a good Meh earbud thing?

also, thanks for doing the research for a lazy cunt
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>>58250032
my monoprice ones have lasted me a while
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>>58250367
It's a combination of things, everything about them is great or good and there are no glaring issues other than the availability of stock pad replacements. For that price you can't ask for more and they even shit on some more expensive stuff.

You know, most of people don't want to go through dozens of models, each with some glaring issue until finding something adequate, X2 are great out of the box.
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bought se215 and feel like I got memed pretty hard. i'm going to be returning them so anyone got recommendations around their price range? ~90 USD
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>>58250482
Focal Sphear.
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>>58250493
Not him, but would they be a better choice than the RHA MA750i? Those are basically a lock for my next IEM purchase.
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>>58250482
Why?
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>>58249790

>Black People
>people
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Do fake headphones exist? I purchased a used Fidelio X2 on eBay for 170$ and I'm worried if it will be broken or fake.
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>>58251158
Yes, fake headphones exist. As far as I know, there aren't any fake X2's though.

eBay has fantastic buyer protection too, you should be fine.
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>>58250379
kz ate s
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>>58251158
thats really expensive for used x2's
im sure you didn't get scammed
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>>58249790
The new gen beats aren't that bad actually, still overpriced as shit but nowhere near as bad as the original ones.
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What's the most you've spent on a pair of headphones?
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>>58251390
I think I spent like 230 on my x2's
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>>58249176
What about something like the ATH-M50X?
Or are they too bass-heavy?
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>>58251390
Whatever the AKG 7xx cost me.
I'm more of a speakers kinda guy.
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How would you convince a normalfag that there is a difference between "good" heaphones and snake oil shit like beats?
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>>58251546
Let them actually listen to good headphones.
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Ive been using a pair of 7506's for something like thirteen years now.

The pair I have now has a bit of the signal wire from the left to right worn down so you can see the copper and the right speaker has stopped working.

Come into this thread and in the first ten posts 7506 is mentioned like three times so I'm already not even sure that I care about looking for something new just for a change.

tl:dr

<$100

characteristics of a 7506, I just use them to listen to everything i do on my pc i'm not recording/mixing anything

usa

cant be some high impedance set that i cant just plug into a onboard audio chipset

i'm going to look through the pastebin but i want to ask the question of "is there something i should be looking out for as an alternative?" anyway.


thank you for any insight, i can try to answer questions about what i'm looking for but i honestly dont have much of an opinion on these things.

closed
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>>58251670
Careful, that's pandoras box you're playing with.
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>>58249798
Nice Mcusta
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just bought these headphones on the cheap ($50) for gayming... theyre wired but require battery, wtf, but at least theyll work without battery
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>>58251780
ty
love that knife
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>>58251390
$260 for the HD600. No regrets. I don't think I'm buying a pair anytime soon.
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>>58241773

Just saw this. Little things like the enclosure all add up. A small outfit can never get as good a price for plastic moldings/metal castings/machined metal. Mass manufacturing means custom parts as required to satisfy a well-defined end-state requirement are accessible. In fact, that's why I differentiated MOQs from economies of scale in general - sometimes custom parts have those. Consistency and tested durability is of course important too and that's another cross against the limited R&D resources of these small outfits.

I don't really think that the skills are necessarily transferable. Subtleties like the response of the occluded ear canal arising from quarter-wave resonances, the effect of insertion depth and so on are really quite specialized even though the underlying principles are universal.

For instance, the Senn IE800 had a custom moulded ceramic enclosure and dual Heimholtz resonators to ensure consistently optimal performance with shallow insertion, and the moulded enclosure served to limit insertion depth. It is the kind of design people like Fitear (who work out of a dental hygienist's workshop, kek) cannot hope to compare to. Of course, Senn fucked it up with an odd DF-based response.

In any case, the Campfire and Fitear stuff are objectively mediocre from their measurements.
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I just got my Superlux HD 668B's today, really love them. Went from Skullcandy Hesh2>Superlux 681's>Samson SR950>Superlux 668B. These might be my oerfect headphones.
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>>58250175
That isn't a HD800.
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>>58252708
Fuck off snapmudheiser shill.
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Are there any disadvantages to using a mixer as a dac/amp as opposed to a standalone dac/amp?
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quavering sounds on my cans. Audio technica ATH-ADG1

pretty sure it's the foam or inner overlay fabric flapping. any other possible random things before I destroy it trying to fix the issue?
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Why do I always see people wearing their headphones backwards?
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I saw these "Pulse Pro Series" at Family Dollar today. As far as Chinese headphones go, are these any good?
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>>58252953
Literally a fucking momentum knockoff.
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>>58252898

Be happy they're not wearing "beats by dre".
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>>58252898
it bothers me more than it should. And I've seen people do it multiple times in a row. Like, not once would they question the fit or check or realize that the cable is on a different side than usual.
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>Budget
Cheap, less than £30 for sure
>Location
UK
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible
>Sound signature
As neutral as possible

Basically I just need some new earphones for the library. I have Xiaomi Pistons but I've been told they're quite loud so I could do with something that doesn't leak much sound, and ideally for cheap seeing as I already have earphones which are good enough for how often I actually use them. Any ideas?
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>>58249141
Got some $180 X2s from Amazon Warehouse Deals. There are no issues with the headphones coming with all of the accessories besides some slight lint on the pads, and they are not Gibson made which is very nice. Already heard them from a friend and sound great just as I remembered; I'm happy to have them in my collection.

I would recommend these to anyone who wants open if they can afford them.
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Does anyone have the pic of the headphones that look like speakers mounted on a swivel?
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>>58252708
COUGH COUGH ATH AD 2000x
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>>58250201
I've heard good things about JVC HA-FXT90 and Denon's C700

(stealth advice request)
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> Posting in a technology board
> Throwing into the garbage decades of audio research to create the perfect lossy format that's indistinguishable from CD audi because muh golden ears
I seriously hope you fags listen to your preferred lossy coded of choice instead of meme flacs. Especially if you listen to 24bit shit you need to buy a rope and neck yourself.
> M-M-MUH ARCHIVING!
You're not a library shut the fuck up
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is this a good thread to ask for a good wireless gaming headset? or is this only for hardcore music lovers or w/e you guys call yourselves?
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>>58253873
bait
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IEM upgrade from Shure SE215

I'm willing to spend at least €100, but maybe as much as €200 if there's a big difference. I have a fantasy of snatching up a top dollar IEM for cheap on an online marketplace. Looking on
Theheadphonelist, there are about ten top dollar IEM that are king, all around 1k retail.

Explain this to me: is it not possible to buy custom IEM online because the custom shape won't fit your ears? Retail is the only option?
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>>58253875
get a good wired headphone instead
you'll either get 4x the sound quality or 1/4th the cost
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>>58254155
> Buying used IEMs
Perfect way to get an infection and lose hearing. I like your plan.
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>>58254155
You can buy them online but you need to have the molds done and then ship them to the manufacturer.

>if there's a big difference
Oh there's a difference alright. Just not some incremental path of upgrades when the price goes up. Better start by finding out what kind of a set you want sound wise, build wise etc.
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>>58254155
KZ ATE
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>Budget
doesn't really matter. I guess $200~ or so but cheaper is better
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop and Iphone SE
>Type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter. I want good bass (which I know open backs tend to lack) but also decent soundstage (which I know closed backs are known to lack) so I'm willing to compromise
>Comfort level
as comfy as possible. I don't want something that would require me switching out the pads or modding in anyway
>Sound signature
slightly v shaped or bass boosted. I don't want anything too recessed
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>>58254239
x2
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>>58254239
You're literally describing the X2
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>Budget
50 USD
>Location
USA
>Source
laptop, single plug
>Type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
maximum, most important thing
willing to go another 20 bucks for utmost comfort
>past headphones
20 dollar logitech from walmart
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>>58254255
>>58254259
how are mids on the x2
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>>58254290
god
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>>58253413
Used or new?
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thoughts on Sennheiser HD 598 Cs
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>>58254386
a warehouse deal is generally something returned during the first week in perfect condition but open box
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>>58254386
Amazon Warehouse, which means used in the best of scenarios, or refurbished if you're unlucky
I've heard stories of people who bought headphones that smell like shit from Amazon Warehouse deals. They don't consider foul smells as a proper defect, so they sell them even if it smells of neckbeard and tobacco
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>>58254467
SHP9500?
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>>58254484

Deleted my recommendation because my eyes soaked up everything except for "closed". My bad.
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>>58254514
open
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I've been thinking about getting the jbl e55bt. Anyone had any experience with these?
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>>58254541
cvlosed
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>>58254542
??
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>>58254619
they closed
not open

thats the know I do
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>$400
>USA
>full-sized
>open
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>>58251546
Let them compare Solo2 and something similarly priced eg. M40X, MDR-7506/V6, DT770/990. They'll know which is snake oil by then.
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>Budget
$80-$100
>Location
USA
>Source
Fiio X1 Gen 2
>Type of headphone
IEM's
>Comfort level
Decent
>Sound signature
I don't know but I listen to EDM with bass
>Past headphones
NarMoo S1 High-Fidelity Noise Isolation Headphones

I'm thinking of buying the Shure SE215 but the bass seems to be not that high. Are there any other options?
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>Budget
£25 absolute max, ideally a lot less
>Location
UK
>Source
PC motherboard
>Type of headphone
earphones/in ears, whatever, I don't really know what the difference is
>Open or closed
ditto
>Comfort level
high
>Sound signature
neutral
>Past headphones
HD650, HD800. Obviously not expecting to get anything like the sound quality, but I like the 'Memeheiser sound' is the point. I hate retarded amounts of bass, I like clarity.

Basically I'm working in a noisy environment, I bought myself some of those 3M ear defenders, and I'm looking for the first/cheapest non-shit earphones I can get to put under them.

Is there a big difference between a 10 pound pair of earphones and a 25 pound one? I don't really have much experience with good ones.
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Any opinions on Audio-Technica ATH-AVA500? Ordered for myself as a New Year gift and the price is suspiciously low ($70), costs as much as TAD400 and TAD500 is $120+, am I getting fooled or something?
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>>58254944
hje125k is your best bet anon
cheap as fuck & still okay'ish

>>58254895
se215
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So, how shit would be sound in Beyerdynamic Custom studio without an amp?
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>>58255248
>hje125k
Are these the same as the 'RP-HJE125E-K'? If I copy paste 'HJE125K' into Google I only get American links, and on eBay UK I can only get them from Korea.
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>>58255320
>ebay
>only from japlands
NO SHIT

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panasonic-RP-HJE125E-K-Ergo-Ear-Headphone/dp/B00CBU0IV8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483181400&sr=8-1&keywords=hje120

I can't believe you made me waste time getting you this link
you know you have an amazon site yourself right
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>>58255363
I'm saying it's a different product code/name, I just wasn't sure if they were the same shit or not, they are on eBay also from UK under that DIFFERENT name.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=RP-HJE125E-K&_sacat=0

Gonna buy them then since they are so cheap, if they are shit you owe me 6 quid mate.
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>>58255397
I always keep forgetting the K isn't part of the model but the color

it's HJE125-[colorcode] K being black
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If I use one of these to drive two pairs of headphones at once will it half the volume? Does it still come through in stereo?

Got a shit pair of headphones and a shit pair of speakers, they are at different places in the room but both run off my PC. Getting sick of unplugging one and plugging the other in when I need one or the other.
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>>58255521
can't you disable playback devices in windows, in which case I imagine you don't lose much power
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Dad got me pic related for christmas, is definitely really old as everything he own sit.

How did I do? Not got any amp currently and really needed one. How does this compare?
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>>58255570
The way I have my audio setup is I have my good headphones running straight off my motherboard, and my shit stuff off my front panel audio, so sadly I'm out of ports.
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>>58255521
even if it splits the power it draws in half, the drop in volume will be barely noticeable. W != dB

i can't tell if the thing will give you stereo, you have to hope the chink soldered it correctly. you might get all speakers play the same mix of L and R, but you shouldn't get one set of speakers play L and the other R.
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>>58255595
why don't you visit >>>/g/hpg and consider getting yourself one of those tiny amps that these people have on their desks? or at least a PCIE sound card?
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>>58255635
anon?
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>>58255635
>>58255646
oh, i didn't realise this is hpg, my bad
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>>58255657
where did you think you were anon
you already been hitting that new year's eve stash?
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>>58255662
i must have replied to the comment straight from the index without looking at the thread. i see very few tiny amps here.
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>>58255617
My 'speakers' are the shit ones in my Qnix monitor, they are really, really quiet and shitty. Maybe I should just get a cheap pair of speakers and glue them to the back of my monitor because any drop at all in volume would kill it.

>>58255635
I'm too cheap for amps, I run my HD800 off my motherboard because I'm an absolute madman ;)

I want to avoid more complications and clutter is the main thing.
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>>58255692
>I'm too cheap for amps, I run my HD800 off my motherboard because I'm an absolute madman ;)
did you know there was a subsection in the concentration camp just for people like you?
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Or should I invest in a budget tiny amp?>>58255583
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>>58255785
you already have an amp
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>>58255805
Yea it seems to do the job, but it's a really old one. Just wondering if it stands up to today's standards, I have literally no idea. Wondering if anyone who knows shit about amps could shed some light.
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>>58255733
I simply plugged those badboys in with the 3.5mm adapter that came with my other headphones and I was good to go. Fuck paying even more money for an amp when I got one for free with my motherboard.

Sounds great to me :^)
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>>58255838
it's probably better

>>58255845
>not even joking
I'm going to dox you and personally shit in your pillow
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>>58255692
just get a cheap sound card and stop posting, you're making me nauseous.
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>>58255857
Would an amp/dac actually make them sound any better or not?

Only reason I even bought them is because I got them brand new for almost half price. I intended to buy an amp/dac/whatever the fuck, but they sound so good on their own I just decided fuck it I'm happy with them. They still get deafeningly loud, they don't hiss and they don't have any distortion that I can hear, and I'm using FLAC files.
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>>58255857
>>58255845
>>58255733
>>58255692
What are the advantages of using an amp, I have some HD558s. Is it worth getting an amp?
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>>58253829
HD 800 outdoes the 2000x.
though the 1000x/2000x are a good middlegroud

dont know why the HD6?? are on there though
they've got shit soundstage and only aslightly above decent imaging
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>>58254155
for CIEMs you need to go get a moulding of your ear done

theyre expensive [like $50-$75 USD each ear]
and you need to do it at a specialist. hearing doctor or whatever [audiologists???]

and then you send that in to the CIEM manufacturer
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>>58256021
No, not for those, you should probably look into amps/dacs the next time you upgrade.

The 558 are driven real easily with a fairly low OHM, when you get into 300ohm you should probably start looking into DACs/AMPs
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>>58255994
>>58256504

Please stop. You don't know what you're talking about. Impedance /alone/ has no influence on a headphone needing amplifier. And has absolutely no fuckin bearing on needing a DAC.

A T50RPMKIII with 50Ω impedance 'needs an amp' more than HD600's with 300Ω impedance. What you're talking about is just dumb bullshit spread by people who don't know what they're talking about.

Read NWAVguy's blog for information.
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>>58256580
Why should I
>>58255994
Stop?

When did I make stupid claims?
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>>58256595
Sorry, I didn't mean to quote you. Just the second guy.
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>>58256580
it's not the only factor but it is a factor regardless
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>>58256689
Hence why I said "alone".

Either way your/his information is completely off kilter and only serves to confuse new people.
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>>58256701
on average he's right though, on average a 300 ohm pair of headphones will need an amp and a 50 ohm one won't
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>>58256756
Except he didn't say 'on average'.

On average black people steal more than whites as a percentile of the population.

On average doesn't mean shit, especially when you're talking about headphones which have quite easily view-able specifications so you don't have to make an assumption based 'on average'.

His logic is just fucked either way, even if he did say 'on average'.
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>>58256774
it can help gauge the probability of needing an amp on lesser known headphones, but yeah if it's something like 558/800 it's easily googled
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>>58256812
If you're able to find impedance, you'll be able to find all the other specifications though.
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>>58256822
what other specifications matter?
I know the impedance is very well advertised for practically eveyr single pair of headphones
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>>58256842
SPL/mw namely [sensitivity]

Shure has a good page to understand it.
https://shure.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2991/~/understanding-earphone-%2F-headphone-specifications

From 2003, but electricity doesn't really go out of date.

Impedance is typically advertised heavily because both the misunderstanding that was mentioned above, and that 'rule' where your amp's output impedance should be an 8th of your headphones impedance.

That rule is flawed in a couple ways, but I won't go into detail on that. Google can help if you want to learn about it. Its more of a rough guide in that sense
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>>58256877
Not him but good post, thanks.
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>>58256877
Since you know what you're talking about, can you answer this? >>58255994

I'm on the fence about buying an amp/dac, because on the one hand they sound good to me as they are and an amp/dac is expensive, but on the other hand, if they can sound even better, then holy shit.
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>>58257109
What headphone? You don't mention it.
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>>58252708
I picked up new memeheiser HD800 for just under $1k for xmas. They live up to every expectation. Total endgame headphones. Everything is new again, unbelievable detail. Highly recommend. Needs amp though cuz 300 ohms.
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>>58257129
I have 'em plugged into magni 2 uber. Using my existing usb mixer as DAC for now. ~380mW at 300 ohms so nice n loud with volume knob at 1/2 way mark.
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>>58257122
Sorry, HD800.
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>>58252953
They're all made by sentry, and everything made by sentry is cheap chink garbage. Never buy headphones from a physical store.
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>>58257109
>>58257230
Oh okay.

A new DAC would be a noticeable improvement, assuming you're just using your on-board audio. DACs are a straight forward upgrade in most regards.

I'm not sure how a new amp would compare to your current one. It looks to be designed for loudspeakers, and often loudspeaker amplifiers don't have to great of a headphone output, but there are exceptions of course.

In that regard, it's quite difficult for me to gauge in what extend you'd need/want a new amp.

If you do want to try a new amp, you may want to order from Amazon or any place that you can return it to. You'd want to compare to your old amp and see if you can hear any audible differences, and if you prefer said differences.

For HD800's, they are a headphone which is quite 'sensitive' to different amplifiers. Often people go through several different amplifiers trying to find the perfect pairing.

I think Head-Fi has a massive HD 800 thread. You may want to ask their opinions their, as I'm not incredibly familiar with HD 800's. Last time I used them, they were on a Jotunheim, which is a fairly common pairing. They sounded pretty phenomenal, but I haven't used many other pairings other than the Jot, and that expensive tube amp that Sennheiser themselves make for it, which is overkill in my opinion.
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>>58257314
Ye I'm just running them from my onboard, my motherboard is a Z77 Asrock Extreme 4, dunno if some motherboards are better than others.

They get plenty loud for me, so do I need an amp or just a DAC? I've tended to avoid reading Head-Fi as they seem to talk quite a lot of shit.

Also, do amps and dacs and shit introduce any lag? I use them for gaming too, so any latency is going to mess that up.
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>>58257314
What are you on about... Way to make some audio myths for the ignorant people asking legitimate questions. I'm spending my new year so no time to phonepost a proper answer but for fucks sake don't talk and "help" others when you are the one needing help equally as much.
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>>58257384
Your motherboard is pretty okay, though a DAC upgrade would be noticable with HD800's. Nothing phenomenal though. Slightly more revealing might be about it.

If you are happy with the sound signature, and they get loud enough, you could stick with your current amp. I'd still recommend trying something out, if just to compare the amp itself, but it seems as you'd be perfectly happy with what you've got, so I can't really tell you to go out and buy anything without serious consideration.

Head-Fi, can be an odd unit, but they have more knowledge than I do on the matter. Weed out idiots who think cables make a difference in sound and all that shit, and you should be okay. There are some othe Anons here that have HD 800's, though I rarely see much discussion on them past basic shitposting.

No, DAC/Amps don't introduce significant lag, unless poorly made. Your monitor would likely have a more significant delay.

>>58257392
Everything I said should be completely fine. I'm drunk, but please, actually criticize me next time please, or dont reply at all.
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Tell me retards, why do you think amps don't give you different sound signatures? some can sound bassy, bight, dark, etc. Then why there are different amps out there if sound signature doesn't change? Is that meme? or you just bunch of ignorants?
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>>58257554
Don't think ive ever heard that here.
A good amp should aim to be as close to transparency as possible, but its a challenge.
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>>58257567
So which amp can suggest me?

one that has bass boost, bright sound and very clear
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>>58251860
£220 on my hd600's. I'm never buying another full sized headphone again.
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Need opinions here. I got a pair of K712 but that treble spike is very harsh. I have it EQed right now and sounding pretty good but was wondering if I should just return them and get a pair of HD650 instead. I mean, they're 100€ more expensive than these, might not be worth it I dunno
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>>58257862

Hd600 are the easiest pair of headphones to EQ i ever had, and the ones that tire me less even without EQ, never have tried the k712 though, i found very hard to EQ the K553pro as a reference
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>>58249513

Yes. It's a fantastic thing.
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>>58257862
if you can, return them & get 6XX from massdrop instead, they're not having a drop right now but I imagine they will have one again soon
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open
they're basically HD650 but 200$

alternatively, get an X2 if you want a bassy sound profile, more bass than 650 tho, but doesn't need an amp, which is a large upside if oyu don't have one yet
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>>58251390

189 for my Fidelio X2s
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>>58258176
I live in europe. The 712s have all the bass that I need, I just want neutral or slighly recessed treble which the X2 does not have either
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>>58252567

Those are all csg tier scrap plastic. Don't post them in these threads calling them perfect. They are by far not.
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So as it stands I had my twitch stream buy me a pair of Logitech G930s. I've been using them for about two years now having replaced them FOUR times free of cost by the company. I'm finally ready to get a new pair . I'm looking for a high quality headphone/microphone that has 7.1 surround . Budget is 300$ thanks
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>>58258225
>This drop will be available to both US and international members.

if you can wait, get the 6xx, if you can't, get the 650

>>58258346
>7.1 surround
haha epic meme friendo :)

have a look at dt880 with a mic on your table or an x2/7xx with a vmoda boompro. If you're a streamer, you should have a standalone mic regardless

if you can't use open headphones, have a look at K553 if you're in the US ( https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k553-pro-studio-headphone?referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open ) or MSR7 if you're in EU.
The MSR7 is better, but it's a bunch more in the US so you're better off just saving the money & getting a K553

also check OP for purchasing advice
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>>58258396
Sorry I'm on mobile and didn't see it
I'm US
Plugging these into my computers Mobo
Closed full head phones
As comfortable as possible as I use them for multiple hours a day
Budget is about 300

I have intentions to buy a boom mic and I guess I could cut out the microphone and just get a nice set of headphones
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>>58258515
Yeah, I'd get K553 or DT770

K553 is a more balanced sound profile, it has a bass and treble boost but they're not as pronounced as DT770 which is the V Shaped king
It reportedly has a very good soundstage (aka how far away from you the audio can sound. A lot of closed headphones sound like everything is very compacted, while open headphones can give you a better sense of things that are further away. It's kind of hard to explain though)

DT770 on the other hand has the advantage of extremely good comfort. And ofcourse, if you want the stronger V shape you'll see that as an advantage as well. It's also a good chunk cheaper, which means you can splurge more on your microphone

as for the mic, have a look at AT2020, especially if you're going to go with XLR, because the XLR version is like 20$ cheaper than the usb one
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>>58257862
m8 I owned the 712 and sold them to buy the hd600, the best decision I ever made.

The 712's do have a harsh treble and the bass is really sloppy imo, besides that they're very good. The 600 is literally perfect to me besides the slightly lacking bass. I've tested the 650's extensively too and I could barely notice the 'extra' bass. What I could hear was the fact that the overall sound signature isn't as nice as the 600. That said the 650's are still the second best pair I've ever tried. If you're using an eq just get the 600 and raise the bass if you feel the need to. I used to use an eq with all my past headphones but with my 600's I don't. I actually deleted my eq because I don't need it anymore.
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>tfw don't have speakers for this new years
>wont be able to pretend I'm not alone
>headphones not good enough to block the 3 cancerous songs inbred neighbouts will be blasting for hours

Help.
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>>58258817
go buy some shitty iems from a shop? or even amazon now.
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>>58258817
>he doesn't own 3M ear defenders to block out the normies
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Worst buy 2016. Those 110£ IEMs sound worse than 5£ VE Monk fucking earbuds or even applel earpods.
2/10, I gave them half a year and currently I am on verge of simply throwing them away.
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>>58258916
I got fucked over buying expensive iems recommended here before. When it comes to iems you're best off buying highly rated chink ones because you can't really lose for the price most of the time. I have some on the way and at £15 they're quite expensive lol but I won't be too bothered if they're not great.
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>>58249122
I brought some ATH-M50's years ago and after about 4 years they had finally been beaten enough for me to get rid of them, no leather left, general wear and tear even though the sound was still amazing.

For the last year or so I have just been using some sienheiser buds but want a full, over the ear headphone again.

The ATH-M50X's are on Amazon right now for £118 - Is there anything else competitive to this price/quality ratio? Budget up to lets say, £180.

I was also looking at the ATH-MSR7GM for £170 but that saving for the 50's seems like giving it a miss would be worth it?

Opinions?
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>>58258940
Yeah, you are actually right. /hpg/ has generally good suggestions as to headphones but man, I got memed.
I am in look for new IEMs though. Pistons it is.
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>>58258976
HD6?? or kill yourself.
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>>58258981
Pistons are decent but compared to my kz ed9's thye sound pretty muddy. The ed9's are the best iem's I've tried to date. I'm hoping my new ones are even better but it's a pure gamble based on someone else's review in the /csg/, they're called boarseman or something like that, he said they're better than pistons etc so I thought fuck it an bought them, at least they come with a nice wooden box and lot's of tips etc.
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>>58258976
£220 will get you the hd600's, save up. it will be worth it.
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>>58258817
>tfw loudspeakers and headphones
I will be blasting r/a/dio on the neighbors and further reveal my powerlevel.
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>>58259030
>>58259045

Will they be fine for listening to from my phone on the go as well though?

I do a lot of travelling for work and don't fancy lugging around extra kit for music.
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>>58259066
No, you don't want them for that at all. What about the dt770's? great build quality and fucking sexy. No idea how loud they'd be with a phone though
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>>58258976
Do they have to be closed back?
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>>58258976
have a look at XPT100/hm5
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>>58259110
I am 'open' to suggestions (Pun intended)

>>58259104
I was just looking over the 32Ohm versions.. I hvae a OnePlus3 and according to xda-dev the audio quality is pretty good able to drive 62Ohm very well.
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>>58259131
Just get the 80ohm
What the fuck is 62 ohm?
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>>58258874
It's 8 PM, they've already started. Literally some wubstep cancer song on repean of an annoying voiced girl saying "oh my god" over and over again. How can people be this braindead?
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>>58259172
Kek. I'm pretty sure amazon now would deliver within two hours if you're planning on being up late.
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>>58259066
They will work fine off a phone, I thought they wouldn't but they do. I wouldn't lug them around in public, wearing open headphones in public is pointless and you'll look autistic.
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>>58259239
You talking 6's or 600's?
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>>58259284
What do you mean?
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>>58259284

I think he meant the 600's. You wouldn't want to carry them around though. They're incredible but a bit fragile, you'd also look like a retard wearing them outside.
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>>58259303
>>58259284
Oh I see what you mean. HD6?? is just a naming thing because the 600, 650 and 6XX are all basically the same headphone, '6??' just means any of those.
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>>58259326
I would wear buds when walking around, but for train/plane journeys or in the office at work I would put them to use off my phone
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>>58259337
If you're in noisy environments open headphones are going to let all the noise from outside in like you're not even wearing headphones, you'll also piss everyone off around you because it's basically like wearing two speakers on your head.
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>>58259337
Again, you wouldn't want to carry them around. I only use mine in my room and I have them carefully sitting on my headphone stand when they're not on my head. They're very plasticky and light, especially when you consider how much they cost. Not ideal at all for moving around with. You better have a bullet proof carry case if you're going to do that, and besides. I', pretty sure they wouldn't run well off o a phone anyway.
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>>58259366
>>58259386
Right.. Mhmmm
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>>58259366
This too. They're the loudest headphone I've ever heard in terms of leakage. You would look like a prick on every level using them in public.
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>>58259395
>>58259409
Fair points.

I might just pull the trigger on the ATH-M50X as they fold up well and aren't all that expensive if they break. I don't remember my older ones from a few years ago leaking much sound, they treated me well too.

I can always buy some more expensive/higher quality ones in a month or 2 should the need arise.
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>>58259440
You're best off getting the m50's again and if you care enough get the 600's with an e10k for home use only.
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>tfw the headphones you want drop 25% in price, the morning you go to order them.
I'm so happy....
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>>58259598
which ones famo
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>>58259440
Get 770's. Built miles better, sound a lot better, and infinitely more comfortable.

They'll last longer than M50x, have a similar signature but sound a lot better, an Beyer sells replacement parts for every single fucking piece.

>>58259598
Noice. Which headphones?
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>>58259669
Yeah
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I feel the M50's would be easier to carry around with though.

Also pic related.
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>>58259684
>>58259746
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>>58259746
Wait, weren't the M40x cheaper and better?
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>>58257314
You don't understand a thing about DA-conversion or human hearing to claim any of that.

You don't want to audition amplifiers. Useless. If you hear a difference, it could be you thinking there is one or the other amplifier is just simply shit and not driving the headphones properly. This could be either, your motherboard codec or the discrete unit. Unless the difference is Glaring, how do you know? You don't, unless you have some data to actually see the performance.

HD 800 is not sensitive to amplifiers. Quite the opposite from how I see it. It's a little insensitive on average but doesn't create any kind of unusual load. Because of the high nominal impedance, it's an easy load for the amp past low sensitivity. If you think otherwise, please explain how and why. Do not quote some worthless anecdotes on Head-Fi. Explain what happens in electronics to make it so.

>pairing
You don't pair amplifiers and a load even if you connect you them to each other. You have a load with certain requirements and and amplifier with certain level of of performance. If certain conditions are met, that's it. This can be satisfied with HD 800 and on-board codec.

Even if your newly bought amplifier and DA-converter(you really, really don't even want to care about this component) have orders of magnitude higher level of performance than whatever is soldered on the motherboard, it doesn't mean you will have a chance of hearing the difference. How these devices usually fall short in their performance is quite far apart from how our hearing works.
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>>58259693
ufokinwotm8
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>>58259825
Not the guy you're talking to but are you essentially saying that expensive dacs+amps area a meme? I bought the o2 combo for my 600's a while ago and it sounded EXACTLY the same as my e10k. I actually weirdly convnced myself that theo2 was better for the first couple of weeks, but it wasn't at all. Fucking embarrassing.
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>>58259821
yes
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>>58259959
If you want to change how headphones sound get a low end tube amp. It'll probably sound warmer with tamed treble (or use an EQ)
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>>58259825
>DA-converter(you really, really don't even want to care about this component)
I feel like a DAC is something you odn't need unless you know you need one
like I knew I needed one because all my audio had a hiss at about half the volume of normal things, which is obviously very audible
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>>58259959
they're not supposed to change the sound. the amp in o2 is stronger than in e10k, so there'll be some headphones you'll be able to fully drive with the o2 you can't with the e10k
if you knew you'd never get one of those, there was no point getting an o2
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>>58259959
No I'm not saying that even if I can only guess what you mean by "meme'. There are reasons to consider something nice but making shit up about how human hearing, sound or electronics is not it. I'm considering spending 2k euros on a DAC/amp/preamp even if I know it will not sound any different than my O2.

>>58259990
A really garbage converter is just one source of noise.
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>>58259669
>>58259684
T50rp Mkiii
Got em for $120, and was literally about to purchase them last night for $160
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>>58259825
How do I tell if hissing is becausw of shit recordings or because of my amp?
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>>58259821
>better

You sure? Reading the spec sheets they don't sound better.
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>>58260006
>fully drive
What did you mean by this?
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>>58260212
but they are bassy
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>>58260202
You don't plug anything to the amplifier input but turn up the volume on it.
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>>58260006
>>58260067
>>58260095

Yeah I get that certain headphones need enough power to get loud enough, but if that's all it is then what the fuck are head fi talking about? are they all on shrooms or something?

I get that tube amps are warmer etc but besides that the whole thing is really fucking weird. I bought the o2 and got memebed but I could at least see that it was much more powefull than my e10k, it just turns out that all of my past headphones (600, 650, 702, k712, x2 etc) got more than loud enough with my e10k. I'm keeping my e10k and i'll never buy another amp again. What a fucking meme.
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>>58260285
there's a reason e10k is the most recommended dac/amp
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>>58260400
I know that now and I made one mistake (buying the o2).

In what world does anyone need an amp that costs say 1k? why do they exist? surely no headphone out there needs that much power. And on top of that head fi constantly talks about amps/dacs like they all have different sound signatures and 'pairings' with certain headphones. What's going on there?
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>>58260482
in the same world people use 100$ or more wires
aka audiophile magic rocks & snake oil land
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Ok, I think I can tell you about WS1100is a little bit. I didn't get OriGen+ yet so I will tell you what I know so far.

They are ok and meh. They sound pretty neutral but not as good treble oriented headphones. They are perfect for any electronic music genre, especially with trance, progressive house, hardcore, etc. I think in my opinion they aren't so comfy but it's just my opinion. Also if you want the bass you need to boost the bass in adjustable bass amp option and they will sound bassy and the sound is also good when they are EQed up. also they have air chambers for some reasons dunno why. They belong to audio techniqa's solid bass series so keep it in mind. People say they sound like MSR7 but with more bass. Oh and they leak sound.

Other than that, they really not worth your time if you don't like bass at all and they are kinda pricey but look good and the sound is ok but not godtier. If you like the combination of good sound and good bass here they are.

For me, they are not so insufferable as my WS99, so I can enjoy my electronic music as intended. They are ''ok''.


When I get OriGen+ I will rethink my opinion.
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>>58260611
Surely it can't be that simple. They don't exactly seem like a stupid group of people. Even poster here talk about the magni uber amps and all the rest of it. Are they absolute retards for not just buying the e10k?
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>>58260797
nah, the o2/schiitstack is better, but it's mainly build quality and amp performance
e10k doesn't drive everything, but it does the job in 95% or more of the cases
then again you could say the same about headphones, there's not really much of a point going past the 200-250$ pricepoint, but people sitll get 1000$+ headphones as well and claim there's a significant difference
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So it seems like every pair of headphones I use always gets a rattling in the left ear.. My HiFimans have that problem now, what do?
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>>58261095
Stop abusing your headphones.
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>>58260797
>e10k
That ugly shit? naw. Ill take this beautiful piece of aluminum machined here in the USA.
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>>58261260
I treat them very well, anon :(
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>>58261304
Hello friend
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>>58261304
Ugly shit? it's a stunning small metal box that's usb powered. That piece of shit stack looks horrible compared to it. What's it offering? a bit more 'warmth' aka less clarity lmao
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>>58261304

Nice chink shit, why dont you buy v-moda burger-kun
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>>58261378
Hi friend.

I can't wait for my custom cable to come in the mail. Who's idea was it to put this short cable on an open planar headphone?
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>>58260881
Then I'm right. It doesn't actually sound better, it's only better for a very specific few headphones and if my £230 hd600's don't meet that criteria then who gives a fucking shit?


The o2 I owned was went loud as fuck. You can't tell me that any headphone needs more than an o2 combo. It had the potential to be insanely loud with my 600's.
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Is there an IEM that can survive cold weather at like -20 to -30 C?
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>>58261504
I feel sorry for you anon
>>
>Budget
£60, £80 max
>Location
UK
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
No preference
>Sound signature
No preference
>Past headphones
cheap shit like HI2050

Not interested in spending a lot of money and entering audiophile territory, just looking for something for daily use.
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>>58261501
there's most likely some out there, because there's some of everything

if you look hard enough you'll find a pair of headphones with a port to light your cigarette

>>58261578
closed version of the hi2050 if you liked it
takstar pro80/hyperx cloud 1
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>>58261454
What's it offering?

Well, other than looks, it has way more output power and it also has way more input options. Its also more versatile since I can use the dac with any other amp I have.

I wouldn't consider the stack warm either, its a really flat setup.
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>>58261669
>Its also more versatile since I can use the dac with any other amp I have.

What headphones do you own that need the stack over an e10k. Why do you need to ability to pair your dac with another amp. I can give you one example why I liked the o2 and that's because I could connect it to my ds4 and play ps4 games at a good volume. Besides that it was exactly the same as my e10k for all of my headphones. I understand some amps have further uses but most people talk about more expensive amps as if they're actually better and reveal more detail etc.
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>>58261784
>Why do you need to ability to pair your dac with another amp.
Because I like trying new equipment and I like to be able to switch between solid state and tube.

My HE400i's and HD6xx's both eat up the power the Magni put out. As with any amp, you want to keep the gain below ~75% to minimize noise and the Magni can get up there in volume but still stay clean.
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>>58261911
>Because I like trying new equipment and I like to be able to switch between solid state and tube.

We all love trying new stuff but that's not exactly a good reason to try new dacs and amps. Apparently it's only bout having enough power for the headphones. If it's that simple then it's not worth buying new gear at all.

>My HE400i's and HD6xx's

I'm guessing you mean 650's or 600's? have you ever tried either with the e10k? I have no idea about the he400i but on that note do you think it's clearly better than the 600 and 650? it costs a hell of a lot more,.
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>>58262124
HD6xx's are basically HD650's but are dark blue instead of grey.

I prefer my HE400i's over the HD6xx's for sound, but they are very similar. The Sennheisers are more comfortable though. Both are great.
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>Budget
$100-$160
>Location
France
>Source
Laptop, no amp
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
I would love open
>Comfort level
Not awful, at least it have to don't hurt me after 2 hours of listening
>Sound signature
V-shaped is the very best
>Past headphones
Shitty earbuds, Razer Krakmeme (a gift).

ty /g/
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>>58262234
DT990
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>>58262234
hd558/X2 are the only good open headphones in that budget that work well without an amp

if you consider getting closed, dt770 80 ohms will suit you well
>>
Can someone comment on the durability of the oneplus bullets v2?

(or are they shit even given the price? I read they're pretty gud)
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Is it true 40x has a more neutral sound than 50x? And which one is more comfortable to wear for long streches of fucking around in Ableton?
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>>58262269
I looked for them, but the point is the high impedance, 250 ohms are too much without an amp
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>>58262124
>have you ever tried either with the e10k?
No, but I do have a FX-audio DAC-X6 and it does an good job of powering them but there is some background noise that has always bugged me.
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>>58262279
they're both uncomfortable, m40x is more neutral & is cheaper
if you want bassy rather than neutral, don't get m50x, get xpt100/hm5
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>>58262345
No I prefer neutral with attention to detail. What are the most comfortable ones under 150 though?
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>>58262226
woah I didn't realize a new 650 headphone released. I assumed that you were posting by phone and made a mistake lol.

I bought my 600's for £220 and the 400i's cost £359. I know this game is all about the fine lines and preference but please at least assure me that I don't need a pair of 400's. I fucking love my 600's.
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>>58262287
32 Ohm version?

>>58262273
X2's aren't even close to that budget.
>>
>>58262364
none, just get m40x & replacement pads like the hm5 or if you're a real baller, auray sheepskin/zmflambskin
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>>58262316
Well I can only respond to that by saying that I have never heard any 'noise' on any amp/dac I've ever owned. I've never bought an actual sound card either.
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>>58262408
Is there even a 32 ohms version for the dt990 ?
Is there much difference with the 250 ohms version ?
And yes X2's are quite too expensive for me
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>>58262408
>X2's aren't even close to that budget.
my bad, for some reason I remembered them being around 150 maybe that was due to a sale or I just got them mixed up with the price of another headphone
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>>58262429
Really? Then maybe your just not as sensitive to it, every onboard audio I've heard has always had some sort of noise. But newer mobos have pretty decent DACs a lot of the time.

>>58262391
I got my HE400i's on sale for $250. My only recommendation would be to go to a headphone store and try a bunch of different shit. But I don't think its a worthwhile 'upgrade', especially if you're satisfied with the HD600s.
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>>58262439
>Is there even a 32 ohms version for the dt990 ?
Yup there is, Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium 32 OHM.
>Is there much difference with the 250 ohms version ?
Not much at all.
>>
>everyone hating on the m50x
Why?

>DT770
Should I cancel my m50x and get these instead? 32Ohm versions because I will be listening from phone a lot?
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>>58262872
Also do the 770's fold up like the m50x to make them easier to travel with? If not then probably a deal breaker desu.
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>>58254277
bump?
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>>58262893
They don't fold. Still a better headphone in every single way aside from that.
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>>58261613
I guess I didn't mind the hi2050, the only real problem I had with it was that it lasted a few months at best, regardless of how careful I was with it. Is there anything else closer to the budget that you would recommend or should I just go poorfag mode for a bit longer?
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>>58262539
>Really? Then maybe your just not as sensitive to it, every onboard audio I've heard has always had some sort of noise. But newer mobos have pretty decent DACs a lot of the time.

I said that I've never heard any noise on an actual amp+dac. On board sound almost always has noise and that's the main reason I bought a dac in the first place .

>I got my HE400i's on sale for $250. My only recommendation would be to go to a headphone store and try a bunch of different shit. But I don't think its a worthwhile 'upgrade', especially if you're satisfied with the HD600s.

Based on that i'm very happy sticking with my 600's they really are amazing. I'd have to physically hear the 400i's in order to buy them and it doesn't sound worth it at all from everything I've heard.
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>>58262872
if you want bassy instead of V shaped, get XPT100/hm5
if you want neither bassy nor V shaped, get m40x

if you get 770, get 80 ohms, they do perfectly fine with a phone and they're better than 32
>>
>>58262872
Because they're uncomfortable as all fuck, and the 770 beats them in every regard other than portability, for only ~$30 more.

80 Ohm version can be ran from a phone fine, unless its a fairly old shitty one.

I can run my 80 Ohm 770's from my Xperia Z3 way past listening volume.
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>>58263025
they're the best V shaped in that budget, if you can mow some more lawns get dt770 for v shaped
>>
FLAC Internet radio:
mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac


Only top tier headphones like the SR-007 allowed.
>>
>>58262964
>>58263045
>>58263049

I have an OP3.. Fuck it, I will cancel the my order and get the 80 ohm dt770's.
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>>58263081
remember that if you get dt770 you should expect a lot of treble as well, which m40x/m50x doesn't have
>>
>>58263107
M50x DOES have lots of treble, M40x not so much.
>>
>>58263170
Guess what buddy??
>>
>>58260285
>shrooms
Just normal humans doing sighted listening.

Tube amps aren't warmer. You obviously do not get that unless by warm you mean higher surface temperature and higher infrared emissions from the visible tubes.

>meme
Define that word.

Sound quality isn't the only criteria or concern.
>>
>>58263306
trump won
>>
>>58263324
>>58263170
Thanks for answering my questions these past few threads on the T50rp MKiii, and whoever else answered.

I'll probably keep updating with mods or post when I crack it open on here. Hope to spark some of you to go crack open your T50s again.
>>
>>58263323
Meme in general means pointless, meaningless.

You speak of tubes in a non meme sense so we're never going to agree I guess.
>>
>>58263061
How do you have your own stream set up?

I wouldn't mind doing this so I can listen to my music at home from work and just have it on shuffle.
>>
>>58263519
>>58263061
Even better would be to set up my PC so that I can actually choose what music to stream remotely
>>
>>58263306
what
>>
>>58263529
Feel like it could easily be done with a small PHP page.
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I've decided, this is going to be my first dac/amp for my HD600.
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>>58263896
>buying an amp/dac
>ever
KEK
>>
>>58263896
Don't fucking do it m8. Buy the e10k. The e10k is all you need for the hd600. Look at the last 20 posts.
>>
Is there any point in upgrading from Essence STX to a new DAC+AMP combo?
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I don't give a fuck about fidelity anymore

BT + noise cancelling means i'm actively listening to more music than before

you haven't lived until you've experienced the freedom of no wires + no background noise
>>
>>58250320
Xiaomi Piston 3.

You'll thank me later.
>>
>>58264015
Fuck that shit m8, first I DO NOT trust caonima shit, second I was in audio shop and tried it with OPPO ha2 and AUNE X1 and I could hear a difference, esp in bass department (they had this switch that you plug in your headphone). BUTT, diference between oppo and e10 was less audible than between AUNE so for some people there might be no reall difference. Also, the element looks and most likely feels very nice, I just want one dac/amp to rule them all and rule them forever without any backthought that I could have spend my money on better stuff. My thinking is it's better to spend more, but spend it once on something that will last you long.
>>
>>58254182
Just wash the tips, cuck.
>>
>>58264191
A 1000$ neutral DAC will sound literally exactly the same to a 100$ neutral dac and by the way the e10k has the same exact DAC as the ODAC.

If you noticed a difference in sound then one of those DACs isn't neutral or you're just falling into placebo
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>>58264251
I don't know what it was, dac, amp or snake oil but with pic related thing I could hear a difference between 10k and aune, most noticeably in bass that was more lose on 10k. I didn't listen to odac tho.
>>
>>58263486
Tube amplifiers are a less efficient way of amplification. It doesn't strictly make them bad and definitely do not make them warm or any other type of sound signature by default. I personally don't see any use for them other than looking cool and warming up my room on winter.
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>>58264299
Forgot pic, they had something like this.
>>
Hey guys I'm a noob about this stuff. How do you download your music without losing quality? I try to keep my file above 192kbps
>>
>>58263061
You just earned a listener. Perfect job anon.
>>
Why did nwavguy disapear?
>>
>>58264322
By downloading FLAC, that way my music files don't degrade from rotational velocidensity.
>>
>>58264449
The only true lossless format is PCM
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>>58264322
u have to make sure to envigorate ur mp3's with mangosteen juice
>>
What is foobar2000 for?
>>
>Budget
$100
>Location
US
>Source
ZUK Z2/Dell laptop (work computer)
>Type of headphone
Full-sized over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Sound signature
Neutral I guess?
>>
>>58264702
Playing music.
>>
>>58264702
Transferring CP
>>
>>58264712
M40x
Add some HM5 pads if you dont find them comfortable, but you say you dont care.
>>
I used to have some Sony MDR-V6s. Were those decent headphones or did I get memed?
>>
>>58264761
They're great monitoring headphones. A little sibilant, but if you didn't mind that, they're legendary.

Used in pretty much any proffesional audio environment worldwide.
>>
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Just got my headphones today. Do I put the Hz to the max value?
>>
>>58264812
If you DAC can support it, sure. Windows upsamples audio anyway.
>>
>>58264823
Im not using a dac or an amp, my motherboard is powering it.
>>
>>58264800
Should I re-buy the MDR-V6s or try the M40x?
>>
>>58264846

I love the 7506, but try new things, the m40x should not be that different
>>
>>58263519
mpd
>>
>>58264094
normalfag
>>
>>58264010
is this some strawman?
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