/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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first for linustechtips

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First to react to Linus tech tips

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how is my build? Is it considered a high end pc?

>>58201292
Yes but it's not a 4K gay men machine
You'd be better waiting for the 1080ti unless you're fine with lowering settings

Is Liquid Cooling a meme?

>>58201246
I just ordered a 4790k as an upgrade from my 4690k to help with the performance of my GPU passthrough. It should be coming on Thursday. I was thinking about getting a Xeon, but the Xeon that I was looking at performed significantly worse than the i7. I should have started out with the i7, but I didn't expect to need it when I purchased it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCtpD8

>>58201302
what would make it a 4k machine? When does the 1080ti come out?

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>>58201292
>27" 4K

>>58201312
It's a price to performance thing, liquid coolers are better in temps by slight to moderate margins, but it's more expensive. If you are okay with shelling out more money for more overclocking headroom, then go ahead.

How important is CPU Slot Size?

If my current CPU is an LGA 1155, does that mean my motherboard can only fit 1155s? Would I have to get a new MB to fit 1150?

>>58201324
Not him, but I have two 30 inch 2560x1600 displays, and I would still love higher pixel density. I will probably get a 27 - 30 inch 4k screen at some point. I also change the DPI on my phone to make everything smaller so that more fits on the screen, so my eyes are probably better than other people for reading small text.

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This is my first build. Gonna be used for emulating and small game dev stuff. Maybe some lightweight games too.
Any input?

>>58201302
>>58201324

Jesus Christ this is an expensive habit. What more do I need? I've already run up to 2700

>>58201320
A better gpu, a 1080 can barely hold up 30-60fps at 4K maxed. Here's one of many benchmarks saying that the 1080 isn't good enough for 4k and that the Titan X(P) hits 40-80fps at 4K maxed
http://www.babeltechreviews.com/titan-x-vs-gtx-1080-25-games-tested-4k-2k-1440p/3/

>>58201356
Or maybe you're too close to the screen

>>58201381
And the 1080ti is the same GPU as a Titan XP just with a few core packages lasered off and then overclocked, which is why I'm equating the Titan XP to 1080ti for gay men

>>58201347
Yes. It's called the socket, each mobo only fits one socket.

>>58201392
It is near the back of my desk on a 4 monitor mount. I just like having a lot of room on the screen, which is why I also use i3 as my WM, because it does not waste much space, and I can use tabs.

>>58201420
There's some cross compatibility between LGA 1150/1151 if I remember right

Is DDR3 still viable? Do new mobos support it?

>>58201427
I could be wrong, but I've never heard of it being so and a few seconds of Google came up with nothing.

>>58201463
There's a cross compatibility between some of the 115(X) sockets, I dont remember which ones but I'm pretty sure it's a thing

>>58201449
Skylake and (I think) Zen use ddr4. I think they also support ddr3L, but regular ddr3 runs at too high of a voltage so it's not officially compatible. But it's shiny and new and faster, go ddr4.

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Alright /g/ I think I'm ready to order my parts soon unless anyone has further suggestions
Thanks to anyone that was patient enough to help me save money on this build

>>58201381
>thousands of dollars

Jesus Christ man. You have one of these? You make six figures?

>>58201381
At 4k you also don't need as many filters though, and if you turn those off you can probably get it looking very nice at 4k and 60fps.

>>58201535
No but 1080ti is expected to be $800+
A pretty good cut from the $1200 Titan XP
>>58201561
True, for example MSAA or other anti aliasing won't make much of difference on a 4K 27" screen

>>58201561
so does this mean my 1080 will suffice?

>currently have gtx 770 2gb and fx 6300 @ 4.2ghz
>want to upgrade to RX 480 4GB and i5 6500
Is this a good idea?

>>58201623
Yea. Though you might want to consider a 1060/1070 if you can.

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>>58201535
Who wanted 4K gay men?
I'm at 1440p and 144hz, $1100 for the PC if I 'member right, and $500 for the monitor, all it US burgerbucks. 4K high graphics gameplay is just expensive to do right now

>>58201660
is the 1080 really that incompetent to run 4k? Its can still pull a stable 60 fps right? There's no way everyone running 4k has a 25oo dollar gpu in their system

>>58201660
And don't even think about the prices of the next few years' hardware in high-Hz 4K games. With GPU progress slowing down and demands speeding up, it's gonna be a shitshow to achieve that.
And then on top of that President Dolan is gonna make foreign products (as in all technology) highly taxed.
Tech prices are about to get much higher

>>58201530
>125 B150.
What?

You could get a Z170 at that price and buy a i5/7 7XXXK processor later on.

>>58201719
http://www.babeltechreviews.com/titan-x-vs-gtx-1080-25-games-tested-4k-2k-1440p/3/

>>58201737
I don't think anon is in america

i am of the opinion that 4k is an overpriced meme. change my view.

>>58201719
I don't know, I don't have one. But by the benchmarks I'm sure you'll need to comfortable with running slightly lower settings even with a 1080 if you want 60Fps
Or you could wait for a 4K gsync monitor to exist and be pretty much fine with lower fps, but honestly anything can run 4K 60hz if you turn it down enough
I just think the 1080ti sounds like it'll be much more ready for 4K game
And outside of games or rendering programs demanding on your GPU, you'll be 100% fine running 4K 60hz

>>58201737
Australia dawg. Also I was told a B150 is all I require for my needs and after research I tend to agree.
That motherboard has a few more features than a typical B150 and a Z170 would be overkill for me

>>58201783
Professionals don't play games
So professionals can get cheap 4K

>>58201818
OK, but would you say that 4k jusr for games is an overpriced meme

>>58201786
Well ive played console before so I guess I can do without full 60 fps... what do you think? I just cant get a 2,000 graphics card right now and it looks like the ti wont be out until well next year

>>58201932
I would. 1440 and 120-144hz is perfect.

>>58201942
Just buy a 1080. If you ever feel like it you can get another in a year or two for sli.

>>58201942
I can't speak for you of course, but personally, I (and many other PC players) would much, much prefer a lesser graphical display in exchange better FPS. Trust me, on PC, you value frame numbers more than quality, you need them for quick reaction times and such, plus it's just more satisfying and smooth. I'd just get a 1440p display if i were you, the 1080 can crush games at that setting.

Here's one that's cheaper than your current picked monitor, and has G-Sync and a very high refresh rate:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CwgPxr/dell-s2417dg-238-165hz-monitor-s2417dg
Here's one that's cheaper than that, and the same size as your monitor pick, but 60hz:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6RJkcf/aoc-monitor-q2778vqe

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Hey guys I got an old CPU cooler fan from an Xps 8300 desktop from like 5 years ago and was wondering If I should use in my new computer.

I got an i3-6100 and don't plan to do major overc on it.

>>58201292
Get better cooler for better OC, overpriced (((GAMING))) meme mobo, 32GB for gaming is stupid, also get cheaper 3000 RAM and ffs get a better case you savage.
If that PSU isn't the G2, get the G2 or G3. Get a non-dogshit tier non-meme keyboard, corsair keyboards aren't good and their keycaps suck ass.

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Asking again from the last thread. Anything I should change? Paying in dollarydoos for gayman.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/jPWtkT

>>58202140
You need a Z170 motherboard for that cpu

>>58201360
Get cheaper RAM, bigger SSD + HDD if you don't have one, maybe cheaper case and you won't need 600W, get the 500B.
>GT 610
For what fucking purpose. Get the RX460 or GTX1050 or use the iGPU.

>>58202140
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/CpfpD8

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>>58202155
>Z170 salesman strikes again

>>58201530
Get cheaper aka the cheapest RAM available, a cheaper case and a non-meme PSU.

>>58202171
Best clocks on a z170, no?

>>58202186
No Z170 = No Overclocking on iX-XXXXK processors.

>>58202160
I'm on a tight budget.
Want to keep it <= £600.

>>58202140
This is´just retarded.

>>58202207
Isn't that just for bios? I thought you could still do some light overclocking with software.

Been sweating about this'un for a good while, came here for help quite a few times and settled here a few days ago:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DPdqNN

Any changes I could make before I bite the bullet? I'm not planning on overclocking, and it's my first build.
(I swear everything on that list has changed at least once, what a headache)

>>58202181
That is the cheapest DDR4 RAM available
I'm set on the case, I don't mind paying that price
Why is that PSU a meme? Pretty cheap for a semi-modular and I haven't heard anything bad about it

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So i bought one of these, HP RP5700

with a c2d E6400 2.13ghz dual core
2gb of ddr2
80gb hdd
windows vista business

im gonna upgrade it to a xeon 3075, 4gb of ddr2 and two 500gb hdd's in raid 1, with an ati radeon 3450 256mb gpu, and some ricer shit for the lols

just a project machine, gonna paint the shrouds, replace the fans with red ones, install led's, plastidip the inside black, got some ram head spreaders, gonna maybe, if i can figure out where to get one, do a 92mm AIO
but theyre fucking rare

any thoughts on other things i could do with something like this?
its only for fun, hence why i bought a c2d era system for the express intent to rice it out

>>58202240
No
Intel shoved microcode that disabled that on the bios for motherboards.

And that was for overclocking non-K cpus on Z170 Mobos.

>>58202155
>>58202167
Z170 it is then

>>58202218
How so?

What's the easiest way to get Windows 10?
Is there a way of legit getting it free still?

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Pic related is my current build (Except running Windows 10). Looking to bite the bullet sometime soon and upgrade my GTX 770 (2gb vram is killing me) to a Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1070 Windforce Gaming 8gb. Anyone got a similar card at the moment? Any criticisms or advice there? Listed on umart for $569 atm. (I'm in Aus)

Running two monitors and current games (Just got Titanfall 2) on higher settings is dropping me below 60fps too often for my liking and running in the 50ºc's - 70ºc's. Also doesn't help that I'm looking at replacing one of my screens with a 27" sometime soon too.

Next on the list would be looking at upgrading my CPU as it runs close to, if not max most of the time. Someone recommended looking at an i7 6700k. Any suggestions or criticisms there? I haven't looked too much into this one yet.

Upgrading being the slippery slope it is, further down the track I'm considering a new case, and 16gb ram too but those aren't too urgent.

>>58202249
You should probably use a usb wifi adapter instead of a pci one, it will bring down the 1070 to 8x.

>>58202265
well its a non-big brand psu, its only 520w and only bronze certified

you can get a semi modual corsair cx 550m for about 60$
for 99$? you can get an extremely nice rm 750x, which is a fully modular, 80+ gold psu

>>58202318
If you're going to upgrade your cpu don't bother getting more ram, as you'll have to buy ddr4 ram when you do that anyway.

>>58202321
I'm retarded, please explain?
the mobo has two PCI-E x16 (which the GPU takes) and two PCI-E x1 (which the card takes), how'll it bring the GPU down and what are the cons of that?

>>58202318
GPU wise a 1070 would be a good fit, definitely enough to do just about anything dual 1080p, i think it would work just fine for you

50's to 70's really isnt that bad, 70 is consider the "reasonable limit" for a cpu, its ok for a GPU

the CPU is still a decent little chip, but it will be a bottleneck with a 1070
i dont suggest a 6700k, its really a bit excessive for the average gamer, and an i5 6600k would be a much more reasonable option, that wont be a bottleneck nor be bottlenecked by a 1070, and give you alot of room to spare with overclocking in the future, or if you move to 1070 sli within the next few years

single channel ddr3 is kinda meh, but if youre upgrading to the lga 1151 platform with an i5 6600k, or i7 6700k, you can get dual channel ddr anyway, i suggest going with a 2x4 gb kit, and upgrading by adding another 4gb stick or two if you need it in the future

or to absolutely future proof your ram, go with a single 8gb stick and add 8gb sticks as you need them, but to start, 2x4gb would be good for dual channel ddr4

>>58202318
Also if I'm looking at upgrading said components, would my SeaSonic M12ii 650w 80+Modular PSU survive?

>>58202210
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/svzvsJ
I recommend you get a used monitor for 50-70 bucks, there's nothing wrong with it, you could save or invest that money in other parts.

>>58202371
a motherboard and processor have a limited amount of "lanes" that it can accept in the form of data through all pci-e slots

the more lanes a slot can use, the faster data transfer is
however, this is limited by the cpu and motherboard, so while all the pci-e slots in your motherboard are there, so a x16 slot will run as x16, a x8 as x8 etc, the cpu can only work with so many lanes at a time, and will spread out the data speed limit among different devices plugged in

so for example, say you have a motherboard with two x16 slots, both will run x16 with one gpu
but when you plug in two, your cpu and mobo may limit you to one in x16, and one running in x8

this affects different kinds of cards in different slots, so you having a pci-e wireless card may reduce your x16 slot to effectively a x8 slot

>>58202384
Thanks for the tips, any idea on >>58202403 ?

>>58202286
install linux and use it as a server.
Alternatively, install linux on it and use it as a shitposting machine.

>>58202371
Nevermind, I'm an idiot. It's x1. For some reason I thought it was x8.

Posted in old thread, but looking for any further input on this build.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/

Unsure about whether or not the PSU is too little or too much, I've had some calculators tell me I'd need anywhere from 300W to 600W so I've gone with something bigger to compensate for that. Any other general input would be appreciated.

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I guess this would be an ok place to ask. So I'm upgrading my laptop and doing some basic maintenance on it, as it's over 5 years old now. I've already found the RAM and battery I want. Now I need storage and thermal paste. Is there any thermal paste I should invest in or should I just keep buying the generic tube of whatever? How about storage. What's a good 1TB HDD for under a hundred bucks? I need one that won't shit itself in 3 years.

>>58202403
yeah, a 6600k or 6700k and a 1070 will be just fine on a 650w seasonic

with those kinda parts, even overclocked youre looking at maybe 500w used for the entire system under full load, which would almost never happen anyway

>>58202435
alright, whew, that would've been pretty uncool to learn about now. thank you anyways.

>>58202408
Do you need the case fan or does it not come with one?
Also a video card isn't a major priority at the moment. I don't play many games on PC other than emulators hence the CPU, so going cheap on that for now isn't a big deal.
Also, do you know if you need to get separate tray things for HDDs to install them in the PC? I was going to take the 500GB one from my old laptop and use that for general storage.

>>58201246
What 500GB SSD should I get? My main 256GB OS SSD is filling up. This is my computer (>>58201319). I was thinking about a Crucial MX300.

>>58202323
Aussie dollars in case you weren't aware.
That RM 750x is $179 here
Also look at my build- I only need about 250w so I think 520w is on the safe side

>>58202457
But just for future reference, all of the info this anon
>>58202422
wrote is correct. And pretty well written.

>>58202446
Sweet, little less of a hole in my pocket then. One more question. I might be retarded, but is this comparison accurate?

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-6600K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4670K

Seems fishy that my current cpu shows similar/better performance to the newer chip...

Step right in, folks! Get your meme build here

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/R72kqk

>>58202495
>>58202422
Yes, thank you both. Will try to keep it in mind when/if I build again, although hopefully I wont have to do a full build for a while after this one

>>58202473
not the anon you're reffering to, but that case comes with a single 120mm exhaust, a 120mm intake in the front is worth the 5 foreign dolaryoos, balanced air pressure is better than negative air pressure

as far as the trays go, the case should come with all the trays it needs, if it doesnt, bitfenix is a bitch, and im sure you can order them online, but they should also be able to just screw right into the case

your laptop has a 2.5" drive and the case has 3 2.5" bays so youre good there

>>58202519
I'm definitely no expert, buy shouldn't you get an external dac to take advantage of those headphones?

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>How does the i7 6700 compare to i5 6600

I got hit with the "Not in stock" when it said it was online.

It says turbo up to 4ghz, what's turbo? Are we bringing back the turbo button on cases? kek

>>58202557
correct

>>58202577
The i7 has hyperthreading, the i5 does not.

Turbo clocks itself up a bit at loads, you don't control when it happens.

>>58202577
Turbo is essentially automatic overclocking when you need it
That's the basic concept anyway

Asking here cause my google isn't fruitful -

I did a fresh install onto an SSD and now when I install gpu drivers, it tells me it was successful, but they don't actually do anything. Ie, can't set refresh rate, graphics tool doesnt work, 2nd monitor isn't detected. I see nothing suggesting an error. Device manager sees my card by name, drivers are all installed, etc.

Weirdest part is that it's the same driver and components as before, all I did was install the same OS fresh on an ssd. Honestly have no clue.

Also tried several different driver versions. No luck. Any ideas?
(Win7 x64, gtx1070)

>>58202493
oh shit, danm wasteland tax

it will be fine, especially if youre only using 250w

its just generally reccomended to get high quality power supplies, while antec is far from "bad", theyre not a mainstream brand and arent popular on /g/ because its generally preferable to get a higher 80+ rating

but with 250w, any efficiency rating will be fine, as youre not drawing anywhere near that psu's capability to begin with, so you wont need to worry about heat or wasted wattage
>>58202502
i personally dont trust cpuboss because i think they change scores for advertising purposes, i always used passmarks scores

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp%5B%5D=2570&cmp%5B%5D=1921&cmp%5B%5D=2565

there is a very small difference, and a 6700k would be better than the i5 but what youre looking for with a cpu upgrade here isnt just the cpu performance

the newer lga 1151 cpu's come with alot of other important things, namely DDR4 ram over ddr3, m.2 slots, usb 3.1, more pci lanes, all together is going to increase performance by quite alot

the 6600k will be enough, and will pair well with a 1070

a 6700k will be about 100$ more and will be bottlenecked by a 1070, not much, but by a bit

currently the 6700k and 6850x and all that shit are well above the current gaming gpus, including the 1080

the 1080ti may change that though

>>58202577
generally, if you're just gaming, you don't really require anything above an i5. if you're a content creator or something of the like, you'll want an i7.

>>58202624
further on 6600k vs 6700k, to tl;dr it a bit

if youre going to be dominantly gaming, you will next to no difference

if you do things that are much more cpu bound, such as video or photo editing, 3D rendering or video encoding, get the 6700k or better, because you will use it

but for gaming, an i5 is plenty

>>58202634
Workloads are going to be games and 3D rendering

>>58202624
Yeah and I may still shop around for other PSUs in the same price range. Got any recommendations for 60-70 USD?

>>58202651
You can't go wrong with the 6700k, in that case.

>>58201246
can i build a decent pc for 170 dollars?

Why do people rec i5 instead of i7 at the same price point? I'm stupid.

>>58202624
>>58202641
Thanks!

>>58202651
Definitely 6700k then, it will be worth the extra 100$

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I know its a bit off-topic but has anyone experienced booting up and being stuck on the blinking cursor, only to start normally after rebooting? It usually only happens when the system has been off for some time.

>>58202670
For netflix and minesweeper, yea.

>>58202676
The i7 is $100 more

>>58202686
>>58202667
>>58202634
>>58202608
>>58202602
>58202602
Thanks!

>>58202688
I'm 90% sure that's normal, if it's booting from a slower drive.

>>58202676
i7 is usually overkill. I mean, if you have the money then go for it but it's usually not necessary

>>58202473
>I don't play many games on PC other than emulators hence the CPU
No idea how demanding the stuff you do is. If you don't need a dedicated GPU you could invest that money into an i5 and higher quality parts, see: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/bGBvsJ
Better mobo, cooler is optional but Intel stock cooler sucks big time, HDD is removed since you have one, Tt H15 is a nice case and Be Quiet! fans are... well, quiet.
With that PSU you still have headroom for a entry level GPU, if you want a better GPU i recommend you invest 5-10 bucks more into the EVGA 500B.

>>58201246
lol pc cuck race.

just buy a god damn console you autists, They cost half as much and have just as many games but wont burn your house down.

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https://youtu.be/0PWU-0sV8cw
Is this a good build. Im using trump dollars. And want to keep it down to like 600 or 700

>>58202670
short answer no, long answer maybe

for 170$ youre not gonna get much new, it can get you a decent shitpost machine and stuff for a few generations old gaming and youtube and shit
youd be looking at something like a pentium G, the cheapest lga 1150 mobo you can find, a single 4gb ram stick, a chinkshit psu and whatever case you can get under 20$, no video card

you could get an athlon 5350 setup for a bit cheaper and that can get you 30fps med/low 720p gaming

if youre willing to save over time, you can start with decent stuff and buy larger components as you get the money for it, starting with a cpu/mobo, 4gb of ram and later getting another 4gb stick, more storage, a gpu, etc

even cheaper if you buy used stuff and get lucky on sites like ebay, or locally on craigslist and shit
an option is to start with an lga 1150 optiplex with a shitty celeron or whatever, in atx format, so you can add more ram for cheap, upgrade to higher end lga 1150 processors, and add a proper gpu and better power supply

>>58202764
>no frog meme
>shitpost quality got worse
I am just as disappointed of your shitpost as your parents are of your genes.

>>58202764
you don't even deserve this (you)

>>58202769
I would personally go for a 1TB HDD then try to cut costs somewhere else and get a SSD (128 or 250, whatever you can afford)

>>58202764
>$60 per game

What's a good upgrade from an i5-4570? Probably gonna need a new mobo too

>>58202933
i5 6600k

>>58202712
Thanks for the insight, i didnt know it could still happen when you boot from an SSD.

>>58202947
Seems like a big jump... I doubt I'm going to get into OCing

>>58202970
Then a 6500. Try logicalincrements.com

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I was using a 1050 ti, rx480 4gb or 1060 3gb?

>>58202995
Neither of those seems like a very big upgrade

>>58201530
I'll take the lack of opinions to mean my build is pretty solid

>ASUS - ACER
I know one of them was awful, I just forgot which?

>>58203010
I'm poor.

>>58203020
Then you should wait to upgrade and spend the money on something more important or save longer.

>>58202995
>>58203020
Then don't upgrade, a 1050ti is fine for most situations for 1080p @60Hz.

>>58202876
only cucks buy games when they first come out. Wait literally a month and they will be $25 used on ebay all day long.

>>58203017
It's Acer

>>58203020
So stick with the ti. Save til you can get a 1070, then thank me by giving me the 1050

>>58203036
i have an old 120hz 1080p monitor.

>>58203064
If you want to reach 120 fps, save up for a 1070.

>>58203062
kek, i can't do that m8 but i appreciate the advice, thank you.

Am I meming myself buying a 1440p 144hz G-Sync TN monitor?

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>got a very expensive 4K monitor from the parents for Christmas
>don't have the heart to tell them that it's just too fucking much
>current rig wouldn't be able to run most games well at 4K anyway

I feel bad, but this thing is overwhelming. I kinda want my 1080p monitor back

>>58203085
Do you have a card with the power for it?

>>58203097
Just lower the resolution in settings. Or sell it and get a better gpu.

>>58203110
I bought an RX 480 on black friday

>>58203097
what's your rig?

>>58203064
By old you mean CRT old?

Are there mechanical keyboards besides razer that has a few programmable buttons on the side? Logitech's G910 would have been perfect if it didn't have those weird romer-g switches.

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>>58203120
Here

>>58203099
I'm planning on getting the 1070.

>>58203139
I have that same setup with 6600k and it's good

>>58203139
Then that monitor should work very well.

>>58203142
Which monitor do you have? I've been looking at this one since there is a pretty good discount on it where I live.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-Predator-XB271HUAbmiprz-27-Inch-ZeroFrame/dp/B01EN5JN5K

>>58203125
Most gaming keyboards have macro keys?

>>58203122
nope, it is an old lg led monitor, 23".

>>58203171
Can you name a few that isn't Razer Chroma or Logitech G? Almost all of the keyboard I've looked at only has the standard buttons.

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Is there such a thing as a mini ITX case that can hold 10+ 3.5" HDDs?

Is there somewhere I can download nvidia graphics drivers without geforce experience or do I have to manually uninstall it each time I update

>>58203212
I actually have little idea about gaming keyboards but when I was researching to buy one I saw that most of them had programmable keys
I personally got a Logitech G710+ and although it's on the cheaper side I love it

>>58203134
hm, maybe you'd be good in selling your 4k display and buying a 1080p/144hz or 1440p/60hz monitor and saving up for a 1070 or something if you really wanna make use of it (unless you're vehemently #teamred, in which case wait for Vega). I'm assuming you have an old monitor lying around as well, so you could probably save up for a better GPU by selling your current monitor and using your old monitor in the meantime.

Here's a 1080p/144hz that is around 100 dollars cheaper than your monitor (probably, unsure of the MSRP of yours, but someone on ebay is selling for ~330 dollars): https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PmyFf7/acer-monitor-umfg6aab01

If you wanna keep the 4k monitor and stick out for a better GPU, my understanding is that Vega will be able to do 4k really well, so you could probably wait for that. Until then just scale down the res on your games (If you think your parents hearts would be broken if they realized you weren't using your monitor, It's probably better to do this option).

Keep in mind I'm anything but an expert so take what I say with a grain of salt.

>>58203171
No they don't, retard.

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>>58203233
Who would put drives through that kind of hell?

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>>58201365
4K has essentially just become kinda viable at the high end, as such it's pretty much the most expensive target you can set. If you want 4K with what is currently out on the market, you want 1080 SLI. Titan XP SLI actually wouldn't hurt, but the price on those things is absurdly ridiculous so I wouldn't actually suggest that. You can also wait for better cards to come out, but I seriously can't see anything short of Volta/Navi bringing 4K 60FPS in the single-GPU range. 1080Ti is going to be Titan XP level at best and it's not fast enough for 4K single GPU. Vega will either hit in the 1080 ballpark or 1080Ti most likely, I can't see it being much faster than a Titan XP.

Also I speak from actual experience and not from reading other people's charts.

>>58203233
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wqs8TW/lian-li-case-pcq26b

Good luck finding it online.

>>58201471
This is wrong. There are multiple CPU generations sharing the same socket (such as Haswell and Broadwell, Skylake and Kaby Lake) but there's no compatibility across different sockets.

>>58203317
It claims to hold only 10 3.5" HDDs, but I'm wondering if it could be modded to hold one more.

>>58201246
>the Xbox fag is latino
Why? I do not get it.

>>58203264
>>58203264
>wait for Vega
My old GTX 760 shat the bed pretty bad a couple months ago so I bought an RX 480 on Black Friday. I'll stick with it for a while, I like it

I think I'll tell them it's too much monitor tomorrow and go with a 1440p/60hz

>>58203398
Xbox is pretty popular in latin america. Also i think he is supposed to be a tan dude-bro, not necessarily latino.

>>58202384
>i5 6600k
There's not much reason to upgrade a Haswell i5 to a Skylake i5, the IPC gain is like 5% or some shit. I guess it could make sense if the Haswell i5 is shit at OC, but a 4670k running 4.6GHz+ should be fine for pretty much anything with a single 1070.

>>58202318
Before spending a lot to upgrade your entire platform to Skylake you should try to OC that 4670k. A Skylake i5 will not bring you anything significant. Your RAM is a bit on the slow side though, not that it matters much in most situations but 1333 RAM is quite slow, in certain situations faster RAM like 2133/2400MHz DDR3 could make a difference. You're also running single-channel, that could also affect things somewhat.

>>58203372
Get a 2.5" HDD, it can hold 2 more of those.

>>58203448
ddr3 does not go that fast. I believe 1866 is the fasted ddr3 ram.

>>58203471
Use search engines to back that claim friendo.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/dominator-platinum-series-8gb-2-x-4gb-ddr3-dram-3200mhz-c13-memory-kit-cmd8gx3m2a3200c13?utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=PCPartPicker%2C+LLC-2993279&utm_term=3938566&utm_content=&utm_campaign=12661062&Link_name=Corsair+US+Product+Catalog

>>58203264
>my understanding is that Vega will be able to do 4k really well
I really wonder where you're getting that understanding. All the Vega leaks we've had (DOOM and AotS - both AMD titles) put it around GTX 1080 level and a GTX 1080 most definitely does not do 4K well, not new games. Even if we go full optimism and say Vega is going to be Titan XP tier, it still won't get you 60+ FPS at 4K in new games.

>>58203471
Anon please, the fastest DDR3 kits are rated for 3200 or some shit and you can get 16GB 2133 DDR3 for under $100
It's "overclocked" sure, but Haswell handles it very nicely.

Haven't been keeping up with drivers and sheeit.

Is the 1060 still king of mid-tier cards? or have AMD drivers fixed their shit?

>>58203542
AMD fixed their drivers to get closer to 1060s.
Overall, 470 is a better buy than the 3GB 1060.

>>58203518
I was going off their demos showing Vega playing Battlefront and Doom at 4k 60fps, of course doesn't mean it'll do well in EVERY game, but especially for AMD that could constitute doing well in 4k

>>58203542
Text: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73945-gtx-1060-vs-rx-480-updated-review-23.html
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEw3CaNSbUo

>>58203585
A GTX 1080 pretty much does 60FPS 4K in DOOM, as long as it doesn't thermal throttle. It has very, very similar performance to what AMD has shown, slightly less most likely but not by much. Meanwhile in other games you get 30-40FPS. That performance level is not enough for 4K by a long shot.

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I brought out my acer monitor from my closet to hook it back up and this is what it shows. Did my monitor fuck up or what? I have it hooked up through HDMI.

>>58203097
Return it, pocket the cash

>>58203610
Fair enough.

>>58203611
Well I'm no expert, but it looks fucking broken anon.

What's the quietest fans I could possibly buy without breaking the bank?

>>58203611
you sure it's not a feature?

>>58203611
Yes, it's dead. The LCD panel or whatever is broken and needs to be replaced. It probably got hit by something while it was in your closet.

>>58203632
Fractal if your case isn't shit.

>>58203632
Get something around 900 RPM and it should be fine. Fans are pretty much silent these days, the sound they make comes from air flowing through.

What are some good keyboards for under 50 dollars?

>>58203581
I was planning on getting the 6gb.

>>58203597


Triple fan GPU models are not that much louder than dual ones, right?

The card I'm planning to get is this one

https://www.pccomponentes.com/asus-rog-strix-radeon-rx-480-oc-gaming-8gb-gddr5

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Hey /g/ I've never built a computer before. I'm interested in building a low end gaming rig, so I slapped together this build based on info in the OP.
Suggestions? Abuse? I'm willing to go up to ~$500 but I don't want to spend where I don't have to.

>>58203169
I have Asus PG278Q, basically what you described, got it for $500 burgerbucks refurbished

>>58203725
you absolutely need more than 250 gbs of storage, 1 tb hard drives are very affordable and are worth it

>>58203749
I have extra external drives around the house and I don't plan on putting any pics, music etc on it. Do you still think I'm crazy? Even with huge games I can still install a couple, right?

>>58203725
It's not bad. I would recommend either 2x4gb of ram, or upgrade to 2x8gb. Also the 1050ti, if you can. And maybe a bigger hdd.

>>58203789
swapping out drives just to save a few dollars would suck a lot more than just spending the extra 40 dollars, trust me

>>58203725
lemme show you real low end.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8f2rpb

Note- I have the 450w Bronze/i3-6100/470 setup.
It works great.

You just need an SSD for insane boot times, but that's about it.

>>58203789
If you're going full AAA on games you're better off with a $50 1TB.

>>58203624
>>58203641

Damn. This was the monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009125

The monitor was from 2008, so I'm probably due for a monitor upgrade anyway. Anyone know any monitor for 200~ dollars?

>>58203725
You should really consider 1050ti, the non-ti one is pretty much useless. If you're only playing very light games you could try skipping video card alltogether and only using the iGPU. Add one in later if you need it.

Also I'd really recommend a SSD, boot times on a 5400 RPM drive will be horrible.

>>58203597
>>58203542
Does AMD have anything like CUDA cores yet?

>>58203597
>Narrated by the pooinloo

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1080p

which do I buy

MSI X RX 470 4GB $299
MSI X RX 470 8GB $349
Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ 4GB $339

is 8GB a meme?

>>58203869
Only red team?

Can you use Radeon GPUs with any motherboard/CPU?

>>58203886
Yep. Well, any with an x16 pci slot.

What do the numbers in the RAM name mean?
The ones like 2133, 2400 etc. What do they mean? are there any compatibility issues with these?

>>58202876
>>58203043
>not pirating your games
wew

>>58203898
That's the clock speed.

>>58203879
yes novidya goyforce is a meme. don't want to be cucked by the eventual downgrade drivers. 470/480 is more future proof too for DX12

Don't think 3GB is enough anyway and the cheapest 6GB 1060 is 369

>>58203915
So they don't have anything to do with the compatibility with the CPU/MB?

>>58203915
do all memory sticks come with 1333 mhz speed as default? or just Corsair's?.

>>58203928
8GB might matter if you plan to get games like GTA and modded Skyrim.

>>58203869
>is 8GB a meme?
Not really, no. There are already some games that require more than 4GB and the number of them will increase as time goes on. 8GB will make your card more futureproof, you won't have to drop texture resolution in future.

>>58203898
That is the frequency of the ram. It tells how fast it can handle operations. Get the fastest one your motherboard can support.

>>58203929
Well cheaper boards can sometimes limit the speed, but usually you should be fine. There isn't much difference in gaming.
>>58203937
All brands have a few different speeds of ram, just get the fastest your mobo supports.

Any good recommendations for a good price/performance TN panel 27" monitor?

How important is the motherboard chipset? How much does it affect?

>>58203725
This guy again. Thanks for the feedback.
I upgraded to the 1050 Ti and added a SSD. I'm not sure whether to change to 2x4GB since the difference has not been made clear to me by simple google searches. Maybe someone can fill me in.
Final question: pcpartpicker is giving me this compatibility warning
>MSI H110M PRO-VD PLUS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.
Is it straight up saying it won't fit in the case, or is there just not access to certain ports?

>>58203939
I already play GTA and sometimes modded Fallout and stuff.

there is also a 390X 8GB available for $349 but I don't know if it would fit in my case.

>>58203970
Better chipsets have better features, usually.

>>58203974
Using 2x4gb means it will run in dual channel. I'm not entirely sure how much better that is in real time speeds, but everyone has always told me it's better. I'm pretty sure that just means you won't be using the usb3.0 on your mobo unless you buy a usb hub.

>>58203942
My motherboard supports 2133MHz. Would DDR4-2400 RAM work in the motherboard or would it need to be 2133 or lower?

>>58203992
If it only supports 2133 only buy 2133. What board is this?

>>58203992
The board will work with 2400 mhz, but it'll bottleneck it to 2133.

>>58203970
The best one (z170 for socket 1151) supports overclocking, so if you buy a k-branded processor you'll have to get z170 mobo too. Otherwise it only affects the number of sata ports, usb headers and other connectors.

>>58203974
You mobo can support usb 3.0 but your case only has 2.0 connectors. So you won't get 3.0 speeds out of those ports. I don't get why you'd buy a case with 2.0 ports in 2016.

>>58203992
It will work but it'll underclock to 2133MHz. So you might as well buy the slower one if it is cheaper.

>>58203974
Motherboard supports USB 3.0.

Case doesn't have USB 3.0.
Go check out
>>58203820

It's almost a carbon copy of what I'm running, but still under 500 bucks.

>>58204020 >>58203974
And yes, your mobo has 2.0 headers so you can still use those ports. It's just warning you that you'll have to plug any 3.0 devices into the back of the computer.

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>>58201292
>a 60 hertz monitor

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>>58201246
Stupid question incoming: Will buying a Windows 8.1 prevent me from getting an "Activate your copy of Windows now" message every few hours?

Context: Decided to be a jew and try to save some money by using an OEM copy for my build since the OEM copy was cheaper than the retail version. A day or two after installing the OEM version, I get blue screens with an "Activate Windows now" message that takes me to a screen asking for another product key since the one I used initially was no longer valid. It pops up randomly, but regularly, and often at the most inconvenient of times.

Is there a way to disable this "feature?" If not, then assuming I buy a $20 Windows 8.1 key from one of the usual sellers, and input that key, will the OS leave me the fuck alone?

>>58204027
Looks like the only real difference between my build and the one you posted is that I selected the GTX 1050 Ti and you chose the MSI RX 470. It seems to me the 1050 Ti is a better deal. What do you think?

>>58204005
Gigabyte GA-H110M-S2H Micro ATX LGA1151

>GTX 1060 6gb dual

Does that mean I have 6gb vram to use, or is it 3gb x 2 because it's dual and acts like SLI where you get twice the speed but the data is mirrored?

>>58204130
Huh. Well yea it seems 2133 is the fastest it supports. I guess that's because it's a budget chipset. You can buy faster but it will just be throttled, so there isn't any point. In any case, ram speed isn't all that important.

>>58204124
During sales, RX 470 can drop down to 159.99.
The highest priced 1050ti is 169.98 or so right now.

If I were you, I'd wait and save up the extra cash, it's really worth it.

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is the 480 really worth the extra cash over the 470? difference seems fairly small and the 470 would probably run quieter and cooler

what reason would you buy a 1060 (3gb or 6gb) over either of those cards

>>58201660
dootdoot

Ditching my old shitty Alienware for a custom built PC. Replacing everything except for my Hard-Drive which I want to transfer to my new computer. How do I do this without screwing up my current Windows install w/ the new motherboard? I've heard some people have luck with just throwing the old Hard-drive into the new computer and it works out but I've also heard people say that doesn't work.

What do? I no longer have a W7 key since Alienware doesn't let you use the key on non-dell computers or something so I really don't know where to start with this shit.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VS248H-P-24-inch-Back-lit-Monitor/dp/B0058UUR6E

I have a budget of 200 dollars max. Is this monitor worth it or is there something better?

>>58202688
You fucked up; go back to square one.

>>58204259
Just pullout the hdd and plug it in. It will work fine.

If I were to switch to Windows 10 today (from W7), what would I lose in terms of games and compatibility? What's been broken?

Reposting this from the stupid questions general:

Should my set up be doing as bad as it is?

I have an HD 7870 as my GPU, 8gb of RAM and an AMD 6300 processor. I built this PC about 4 years ago so I don't expect it to be a supercharged machine, but I'm having trouble doing the simplest of tasks. After Effects and Premiere are torture to work with, I keep getting low memory warnings and programs keep crashing and I just tried to play Doom on medium settings with everything turned down and it's still glitching out every two seconds.

Should I think about upgrading or does this sound like something that could be fixed?

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>>58201246

>get a GTX 1060 as an upgrade to my good ol' GTX 760
>secondary monitor is not compatible with the digital only DVI-D output

RRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I guess I should just get a new monitor tho, this one is too old.

>>58203097
I have a 4k display because I need the extra space for work, I just play games at 1440p and they look and play fine.

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Hueg poorfag from down under here.

Recently splashed and got myself a STRIX RX 480, wouldn't fit in my mid tower but for some reason when I was looking in the basement for tin snips I found the guts of an old case that was just big enough for the 480. I think it was an old Gigabyte machine's case.
Anyway it's awful, there's nothing but the most basic metal structure (fuck knows where the rest is), the PSU is at the top and my 480 sits an inch off the base of the case, I'm currently flopping my drives out the back of it.

Can any airflow masters give tips for cooling a shell of a case? I have an old Proliant ML 350 G4P I stole from work full of deltas sitting in the basement so I have access to some decent fans.
Do I just duct tape some to the front and some to the back? Pull from front, push out back? Am willing to tape shit anywhere btw.

Also my 8320 appears to be bottlenecking games, I get nasty usage spikes on the 480, I've managed to overclock it to 4.3Ghz but it heats up SUPER FAST and frames are back to shit.
I need a temporary solution because the 480 emptied my spending account.
But I'm looking at throwing $250 dollarydoos at liquid cooling and a nice case in a month or so, any recommendations?

>>58204368
I've got a friend with a similar build (except 4 core fx), he manages Premiere fine and doing some pretty intensive tasks with it too. Consider a reinstall of your OS.

>>58204360
everything.
If you're updating a game overnight, and you set the active hours during the day, Win 10 will update and restart thus closing any and everything on the system.

i.e. you can't NOT update.

>>58204368
AMD 8350 bruh and RX 470.

>>58204396
Nice FUD

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>>58204368
If you have the money definetly look at zen when it comes out.

How does one install a pirated OS on a newly built rig? I know you can download something from windows and put it on a USB then plug it in. I also heard something like using the assistive free win 10 upgrade but I dont know if it would work with a pirated version.

I really am lost in what to do. This is my first build

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Anything I should change to improve price/parts?
I dont really care for fancy graphics, just high res and high fps
My budget would probably be 1200 or less

>>58204667
>Seagate
>i3
Don't

>>58204684
what are some good alternatives?

>>58204667
You might want to switch to an i5. maybe a 6500. an i3 will bottleneck your 1070. You also might want 16 gb of ram. I've never done it, but I know there are much cheaper ways to get windows if you look around.

>>58204702
Seagate is fine, but not for your boot drive. Get a kingdian ssd

Do 8TB 2.5" HDDs exist?

>>58204702
This >>58204704
Except get at least the 8320 and be prepared to overclock it a bit to keep up with the 1070 in some games

>>58204715
Fuck off cunt no it's not
I have 12TB of failed Seacancers from the last 5 years from 4 different suppliers and 9TB of Western Digitals I purchased over the same period running great.
Never buy Seagate fucking ever unless you hate your data

>>58204667
Spend more on your CPU and less on your video card. An i3 CPU would bottleneck a GTX1070
Do you really need a 3TB hard drive? Get a 1/2TB and go for Hitachi/Toshiba/Not Seagate
Don't pay for Windows
Why do you want a wifi adapter?

>>58204737
Don't get so mad you child.

>>58204667
>1000
>1200
>His budget
>An i3

Bruh, what are you DOING?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWqbyf

And for the record, buy 100ft or so of ethernet.
Or 75, if your space is small enough, the difference is WORTH it.

>>58204722
No. They need the sata power of a 3.5. At least that's what a quick googling got me. I only saw up to 2tb. If you go ssd it's a different story.

>>58204748
Do some fucking research before you parade around pretending you know what you're talking about
Reasons not to buy Seagate are posted here all the time

>>58204741
Forgot to mention- get an SSD as your boot drive and for heavy programs you use a lot

>>58204741
Toshiba are notoriously slow with high fail rates. Hitachi or WD are good

>>58204762
LMAO

>>58204762
Not that anon but care to elaborate why Seagate is bad? I don't have a high opinion of their drives but I'd like to know why exactly they're hated

>>58204741
cuz i dont have much room for wired internet
>>58204737
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7ZTrpb
thoughts on processer? I can go over a touch of 1200, just have to wait through a bit more paychecks
>>58204704
I'm planning too, I just bought the same brand of ram for that 16 gb, also I dont have any copy at all and don't know where to look locally, I went to The Computer Store or whatever its called and they were charging over 100 bucks for windows, I could try my luck again
>>58204757
I live with room mates, the less wiring the less headaches, and yeah, as you can tell I'm not really informed on cpu and video card compatabilities, I should get on that

>>58204781
High failure rates
I work IT repair and when a drives shitting the bed, you know it's either Seagate or Toshiba

>>58204791
well, if you're going for a wifi adapter, go for the best within that last 200 dollar bracket.

Seriously doe, the wiring cant be that bad?

>>58204791
CPU looks good

>>58204791
You absolutely need wired internet. Learn how to install a network cable under your house (Or through the roof if you have to)
Or pay an electrician to do it
Wireless internet on desktops is just shit, I've been there and my connection from 20 feet away was terrible

>>58204804
It would have to be cutting through the washroom floor, which people (and sometimes kids) go in and out of, one bad trip would destroy the router most likely

>>58204815
I could staple the cable on the wall which might be good, or just bad)))))
but its worth a shot

>>58204803
>>58204768
Thanks for letting me know about Toshiba, was about to buy one
Got any 1TB HDD recommendations for 70-100 AUD? Remember components cost a lot more here so think around 50-80 USD

>>58204828
Why can't you run the cable under the house or through the roof? Sure it takes some handywork but it's a useful skill and only takes a day to do

>>58204816
Shit man, I was just thinking of those small rivets you attach to the wall to hold the wire.

I didn't think it'd be that big.

>>58204815
Same, I'm fixing to learn how to do that as well so I'm not right next to the damn modem and back in my own room.

>>58204835
Disksperg here
Also an Ausfag

3TB is currently best $/GB
Rest are pretty poor value. Order a WD green from America on eBay for best prices.
Just make sure you stick an SSD with it.

>>58204861
Don't really have the budget for 3TB. If you buy everything according to the best value then you may as well buy everything in huge bulk packs
Shipping cost is usually a killer when buying from America, are you sure it works out cheaper than CPL?

>>58204861
>3TB is currently best $/GB
As opposed to a 4TB 7200rpm drive that costs $20 more than a 3TB?

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posting pic of what it has to cut through
circle is where my room is, I could staple the wire to the ceiling

>>58204882
You can get real cheap shipping, I've gotten a new 3TB WD Green from Burgerland for $70

>>58204896
what is wrong with you? No one wants to look at a cable on the wall plus it's a tripping hazard
Google how to run a network cable through your house. There is plenty of info on it

>>58204903
Did you buy new? I'm seeing mostly used drives
Got any links by chance?

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Hey a heatsink fan that fits a LGA 1150, 1156, 1155, should be able to fit a 775 right? Im not retarded and didnt buy the wrong part right?

>>58204960
Mounting hole spacing is different from 775 and 1156

>>58204945
Can't find any at the moment but it's worth keeping an eye on

>>58204960
Some may. Some might not. 212 EVO supports all of those.

>>58204997
Thanks m8 will probably just go for a 2TB green since it would take me 10 years to fill anyway

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>H170 mobo supports up to 2133mhz DDR4
>I bought 2400mhz ram

>>58201530
Hey! no video card? Also... That power supply, motherboard and case, really men I hope you don't buy this

>>58205020
pretty sure your mobo will just bottleneck the ram to 2133mhz and allow you to use it, no problem

Just built a PC and it turns out I'll be away from it for extended periods (e.g. every 2/3 months) next year. It is okay to leave it turned off for that long? Should I change the thermal paste whenever I get back or should I leave it?

>>58205020
Bios setting, change the freq, if necessary

First top-end gaming PC I'm building. Have a 144hz monitor and 1 TB SSD ready to go also, just not included in the parts list.


>Case
Corsair Crystal 460X RGB Glass Compact ATX Gaming PC Mid Tower Case,CC-9011101-WW
>CPU
Intel Core i7-6700K 6th Gen Quad Core 4.00 GHz CPU Processor - Please Note: Stock intel Cooler Not Compatible
>Memory
32GB (2x 16GB) HyperX Predator DDR4 3000Mhz Memory Kit
>Motherboard
Asus Z170-P,4x DDR4 Slots,2x USB 3.0,2x USB 2.0,M.2 Slot
>Hard Drive
Chosen Another Type of Storage or Adding your own HDD's to the System*
>CPU Cooler
Cooler Master MasterLiquid Pro 120mm All-In-One Liquid Cooler
>Video Card
Asus GeForce GTX 1080 ROG STRIX A8G/O8G Graphics Card
>PSU
700W - Be Quiet! 700W Straight Power 10 Power Supply
>Wifi
TP-Link Archer T8E AC1750 Wireless Dual Band PCI Express Adapter SAVE £8.00
>Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DG Sound Card
Operating System
No operating system installed
>Optical Drive
24x SATA Internal DVD Writer Drive


Wifi card because my modem is in the same room but on the other side of where my desk is and I don't really want to connect a massive ethernet cable since it looks messy (and I get near top speeds over Wifi anyway). Don't ask me why I got a sound card though. I still don't know.

>>58205178
What are you doing that requires an i7 and 32GB ram?

>>58205204
For now, nothing. I know this build will destroy 1080p gaming even at 144fps. I just don't want to worry about upgrading anything for at least a few years. I also plan on upgrading to 1440p 144hz or even 4k eventually and want a build that can handle it.

>>58205119 here
Anyone?

>>58205119
its fine m8, leave it. no need to change paste or anything ridiculous like that

>>58205236
It'll be fine.

>>58205178
If you aren't content creating, might as well save and go with an i5 6600k and 16gb for now. you can always upgrade down the line

>>58205178
Good build. You don't need that xonar soundcard though if your mobo has realtek alc1150.

Any tips for weird usage spikes on a Strix 480? It just goes up and down in games, I get between 55 and 70 in Overwatch Ebin and like 80% constant CPU usage but GPU is everywhere. Any ideas? Temps are 40 on the CPU and 60 GPU
CPU is 3.4Ghz 8320

>>58205337
what GPU manager are you using?
Wattman?
MSI afterburner?
etc?

>>58205020
Yeah that isn't an issue, just means you won't be using your RAM to its full potential
Also means you have 2400mhz RAM if you upgrade your mobo later

>>58205247
>>58205250
Oh, that's good! Thanks, Anon!

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What will the market look like in 6-8 months?

I know of:
>Kaby Lake, 1080ti in January
>Vega in ?? (sometime before June?)

I'll probably have enough by then for a high-end build, but I'd like to know what to look out for. For example, will Skylake-E be out by then?

>>58202557
I would assume 598 can run on Mobo jack just fine

Also you can do a sound card

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So I have a RX 470 8gb right now and I'm looking for a budget build of a CPU, Mobo and Ram to utilize it for the time being until I can go all out on a newer CPU in it.

Are there any budget/low priced CPU/MOBO bundles you guys have any links to?

>>58205598
Ask again with a better looking girl.

>>58202634
There's games with bad optimization for CPU like squad or total war that benefit from i7

>>58205402
>>58205137
>>58205110
How much does ram clock affect performance?

Is this power supply adequate?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/NRp3WX

I was looking bumping the cpu up to 4.0ghz (generally no voltage increase needed) maybe 4.5 (vcore increase needed) and possibly ocing the 1070 further at some point.

>>58201270
source on vomit animu?

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Not bought yet.
Waiting for the 1080ti
>purpose
gaming and editing
>your budget
Put aside £2k
>AND YOUR COUNTRY if outside the USA.
United Kingdom

>>58201292

Just pick a i5-6500 and 16GB RAM so you don't need to suck dick

>>58201292
>>58206364
>buying Windows
>getting the home edition
Fucking retards

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Going to upgrade my GPU to 1070 G1 Gaming - any opinions?

Currently running GTX 760, i5-4670k and 8GB RAM.

Is it worth upgrading my motherboard, CPU and RAM to 16GB DDR4?
Or should I keep my current motherboard and simply upgrade my 8GB DDR3 RAM to 16GB DDR3 RAM?

My motherboard: H87-HD3

Also my monitor is LG IPS234v (1920 x 1080 60Hz) - I'm assuming it would be a waste to keep it with the 1070? What should I upgrade to?

Basically -

>Spec me a 1070 (if G1 Gaming is trash)
>Spec me a monitor (if having 1070 with my current one is a waste)
>Spec me Mobo/CPU/RAM if I should upgrade to DDR4 & next gen CPU
>Or spec me DDR3 16GB RAM if I should keep the Mobo/CPU and simply upgrade RAM

>>58206455
>torrenting
kek
Also why would I need more than the home edition?

Newfag to PC building here...almost have enough saved up for babby's first gaming tower. However, I'm not in a rush to buy all the parts and I was wondering if it would be wiser to wait a few months until Zen is released. Thoughts?

what are good SSDs other than samsung, is Crucial MX300 any good?

>>58206550
Kingdian.

>>58206477
No cortana on enterprise or education editions. Also, education is free.

U2414H is on sale here in Australia for $269 and a second monitor, to be used in portrait orientation, is one of the next upgrades. Is there anything to be wary about on this monitor or just cop?

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>tfw you finally put together that new top tier build
>get everything up and running
>do some overcloking and benchmarks with games for a few days
>go back to browsing the web every day
>play a light game once in a while
>realize all that exitement over getting a new computer was just about building it and about the exitement itself, and had nothing to do about wanting to actually use it

Have you ever fallen victim to this meme?

>>58204067
This is how it works with 7 and 10, not sure about 8: You don't have to enter a key when you install windows, and have a 30 day trial period, which you can extend further with some commnads.

By entering a faulty code, you might have skipped the entire trial period.

>>58206823
Cortana can be helpful and what shortcomings does education offer?
>>58206904
Who hasn't

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>>58206260
Looks like Haganai.

Opinion on refurbished HDDs? My friend swears by them but I'm skeptical.

Anyone have experience with switching from 23 inch 1080p @ 60Hz to 27 inch 1080p/1440p @ 144Hz? I got a GTX 1080 and I know I want a 144 Hz monitor but I'm not sure about 1080 or 1440p yet. Seems the GTX 1080 struggles to get 60 fps on 1440p in quite a lot of games already. Still, the better resolution and larger screen might be worth it.

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>>58207251
>27 inch 1080p

>>58207306
Doesn't 1080p look like shit on a 27 inch monitor though?

>>58207251
I'm getting a 1440p 144hz monitor with a 1070 and I rationalize it with the following:

>You're not always going to play games that struggle to acheive 60fps@1440p
>Even if you're not getting 144hz, even getting FPS in the ranges 70-100 will feel like a big difference, especially if you have a monitor that supports g-sync/freesync.
>144hz makes for a very fluid windows experience.
>Older games will run like butter
>If 1080p/144hz is a better choice for certain games you can always change to 1080p
>Games are often benchmarked at the highest settings. You can always turn down graphics to get more frames.

>>58207344
Did that not get across?

>>58207350
Yeah I'm leaning that way too.

When's Ryzen coming, this shit's taking way too long. My i7 930 and shitty old mobo are slowly dying. On top of that my HDD is overburdened and needs a upgrade together with a SSD.

I'm really crossing for a late January release.

>>58207593
Ryzen is a meme. Just save yourself the false hype and buy a 6700k.

>>58207618
I'm not taking advice from dumb ''meme'' spitters like you.

>>58207618
>6500k
k for kek, right?

>>58207630
>Wait for next gen
>Wait for it to come down in price
>Now the gen after that is on the horizon
>Wait for it
>Wait for it to come down in price

Just buy what's good right now.

>>58206880
Where is it on sale? Been looking to get one cheap

>>58207636
If something new releases within two or so months it's pretty much the best thing to buy, considering i'm also going for a 200~ bucks or so CPU and the mobo will be pretty much up to date as well.

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Is there a more comfy feeling than waiting the the new computer parts you've just ordered?

>>58207640
Shopping Express

>>58207657
the warm embrace of your girlfriend after a long and hard shift at work :)

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>>58207657
I ordered them from a store 3 hours away today, my family is coming up tomorrow from that city, they've already picked up the parts and are bringing them over.

Comfy, even downloaded all the drivers already.

>>58207663
Oh I was thinking of the U2412M which is a bit pricier
How does the H compare?

>>58207725
No idea. My own question was if the U2414H was any good.

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Is anyone got a Be Quiet! Dark Base 600?

Is it a decent case?

I want to build a quiet non-oc rig. As much passive cooling possible, so it's as quiet as possible when not on load, any recommendations for cases?

I am a sucker for the orange highlights look. At the moment my local pc place only stock the windowed version, but I want to make sure it is non-windowed so all the sound is dampened.

>>58207829
I'm getting the Silent Base 800 for an audio production setup.
Some people have told me I could get a cheaper case but basically everyone has only positive things to say about it.
Only problem is cable management can be tricky but I don't mind just using a few more zip ties

>>58207941
Isn't the Silent Base 800 quiet old "tech" compared to the 600? Came out in like 2014.

But I think 600 is recycled 800 body, but yeah cable management on mid tier cases from 2-3 years ago just seem lack luster, they also have unnecessary amounts of drive cages.

>>58205370
GPU tweak

I can get an i5-6400 for 179€, the 6500 for 202 and the 6600k (which I don't think it's the most viable since it would need a better mobo) for 227€ I think.

What one do I get? I'd be pairing it with a 1060/480. Also, it's mean to be a kinda future proof PC and won't have almost any part changed for years except maybe add storage and maybe more ram, maybe sell the GPU and get a new one after 3 years.

So, would the 480 be a better option? I'll play on 1080p/60Hz.

My target is 900€ at most in Spain, which is a little difficult to get since all the shit is overpriced here (the GPU will be likely to be 320€ easily unless I get a shitty brand).

I don't know if I should pull the trigger to an i3. I want at least the i5.
Here is what I made a month ago. I have to check it all again and change some stuff. http://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/D2RckT

>>58208497
>6600k for 227€
That's a good price, that CPU cots 240-250€ in Germany. If games is all you do, then the 6500 will be your best bet, stay away from the 6400. The 6600K is only an option if you want to OC.
>So, would the 480 be a better option? I'll play on 1080p/60Hz.
RX480, GTX1060 6G.. it's up to you. Personally i'd get the cheaper option.