/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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I'm trying to build a single GTX 1080 gaming machine. I want to do 1440p at 144hz on ultra. Maybe some 4K stuff but I don't really care about it.

What's a good price for such a system with NO accessories? Don't include a monitor in your quotes either, since I need one of those anyway.

I priced out a system on Cyberpower that was $1700 built and shipped, including storage.

I also priced out a build my own type deal on newegg for $1350, without storage (would just use my old drives).

Both systems are GTX 1080 with an i7 6700k. The cyberpower comes with some free little stuff, as well as a nicer case + windows 10.

Do I need the i7 and 1080 to accomplish my goal? My current computer is an i5 3570k with a GTX 670 2GB which has served me very well, but it is beginning to show its age. Also, I always felt like I would have been happier had I spent the extra cash to get what was, at the time, the top of the line components.

>>58154060
Yeah I would say $1200-1400 sounds about right, depending on whether or not you get the 6700k. I don't think you need it for gay men but it can give you benefits occasionally with the right program.
The 1080 is pretty needed for 1440p if you're actually aiming for 144hz or close to it, but imo the 1070 is a much better deal, and can do most of the stuff the 1080 can for $250 less (the 1070 can max games at 1440p/60fps, and get to 144hz usually on not-max settings or older games)
I'll also say that waiting for a 1080ti will be nice, it IS a real 4K card and will likely make 1080s cheaper when it's released

>>58153901

I'm upgrading my old mid range PC by buying a Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB to replace my old GTX 760. Here are the final specks:

>Gigabyte GTX 1060 3GB
>i5 2500k oc'd to 4.0 Ghz
>Asus P5QL-E
>8 GB DDR3

Please rate my mid end new specks. Should I invest in 16 GB DDR3 with these specks?

No, I won't buy Radeon.

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This looks good?

>Cable management
No backspace
No place to put cables other than the old DVD space.
No bully.

Is there a problen with Motherboard 24 pin that close to other cables?

>>58155419
Yeah it could make those other cables self conscious

These should be renamed to PC Assembling threads, you aren't building shit.

gtx 1080 sli for 1440p to 4k gaming?

Do I need a CPU cooler for the i7-6700k if I don't OC?

>>58155824
You don't need the k if you don't OC
The regular 6700 also comes with a free cooler that's good enough

>>58155797
>fraction of games support SLI, probably be fine at 4K/60fps
>the rest of games don't support SLI, only use one 1080, good for 1440p
Either way you're dumb, get a single 1080 or 1070 for 1440p, or wait for a 1080ti for 4K

>>58155874
I will be OCing in the future most likely... eh, I'll just get a cooler anyway.

>>58155910
You do need a cooler to use your CPU for more than 30 seconds by the way

>>58155928
Cool. ty anon.

>>58155824
>>58155962
I don't think a computer will even boot without a CPU cooler fan plugged in

hey /pcbg/, looking to upgrade my current pc (which is a really old prebuilt), and use it for gaming. How does this look? Am buying everything off of Amazon (because Amazon Prime), and I have a strict budget of $575. All the stuff that is unpriced is a stand-in for what is actually in my PC.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LQHV2R
Here's the stuff that I'm replacing:
>i3-2100 (2 cores, 3.1GHz)
>4GB DDR3-1333 RAM (2x2 GB, so dual channel)
>cpu cooler is by AVC
>No GPU

>>58155896
hey, thats why im here, im dumb with this stuff.
thanks

What is the more future proof socket? (4 years)

AM3+ or LGA 1151

>>58156114
Am3 is already dead what are you talking about?
That being said, 1151 will be gone after Kaby Lake

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/theviacom/saved/fyz6hM
Going from a laptop to a desktop.
I mostly plan to livestream, run a podcast, and do other activities of the ilk. I'll gayme, but not frequently.

How's this? I don't need much storage and I do plan to overclock.

Trying to stay <$799.

>>58155455
>not posting the frog meme with your daily shitpost
You fucked up, retard.

>>58155824
Do you really need that hyper threading so desperately? If no, there's absolutely no point in buying an i7, get the i5-6500 instead.

>>58155977
>300W shit tier Be Quiet PSU
Replace the PSU or enjoy the housefire.

>>58156295
>no GPU
In case you want to game and stream on the iGPU, that's not going to happen. Here's an improved version but still without GPU: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XMLWJV

I have an i5-3450 (3.50GHz) to go with my 1060.

Should I be looking to upgrade my CPU? It feels like a lot of the best games are pretty CPU heavy these days.

>>58156780
I wasn't planning on streaming gaymes. I was also planning on buying another RAM stick later on.

What's better about the new heatsink, fans, or SSD?

>>58156891
>I mostly plan to livestream
>I wasn't planning on streaming gaymes
... ok?

If 212 EVO and H7 cost the same the H7 is the better choice, 212 EVO is only still worth it if it's cheaper.
RAM should be obvious, if you want an OC setup you should go with suitable RAM as well. The PNY CS1311 offers excellent value, it's a good SSD of a very good price.
The fans are cheaper and enough. Poo fans are excellent but only worth it if you really have the money, otherwise you should be looking for other options.

>>58156973
I would have been livestreaming other kinds of content, like messing with virtual machines.

Thanks! t. brand oblivious

>>58156973
Would it be worth it to pull the trigger on a $138 4Gb 1050ti? I'll be using a 1280*1024 monitor.

>>58156503
kek

>>58157040
>1280*1024 monitor.
>current year
Dude... what the fuck, no. Save up for a new monitor or get a cheap used one, afterwards you can bother about getting a GPU.

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How can I improve my build?

>Budget
~$1100
>Current Cost
$1009
>Purpose
Audio production, light gaming
>Country
Australia

I'm using an external soundcard for audio production and onboard audio for browsing
No need for a GPU right now

>>58157298
>onboard audio for browsing
Why?
Also get more ram, daws eat up ram if you let them and it's a good thing

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>>58157298
>light gaming
>no need for gpu

>>58157307
I have my pair of monitors and computer speakers. The external soundcard is a DAC from PC to monitors and the computer speakers can just use the audio from the motherboard.
I wouldn't want to use my monitors for anything other than what I bought them for

>>58157316
Onboard graphics from a decent motherboard will be fine for the games I intend to play (Literally just CS Source and maybe some 2D indie games)
I can always buy a GPU later if I get into gaming more but this PC is mostly for professional use

>>58157335
Why not? You don't want to use better monitors because that's not what you think they're meant for?
It's not a stereo vs 5.1 kind of deal, you're just restricting yourself for no reason
Every time my computer turns on, I turn my mixer on and enjoy my monitors, there's no reason not to

>>58157389
Studio monitors aren't for listening, they're for referencing.
I.e. You want a flat sound when mixing and a coloured sound when enjoying
Maybe it's just personal preference though

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>>58157409
Maybe you should buy an EQ for the more casual times, you pleb

>>58157428
That's just adding frequencies that aren't there
Anyway I'm not here to debate audio, if you have suggestions for my build be my guest

>>58157463
Yeah, isn't that why you're using your colored computer speakers?
A quality speaker plus a quality coloration will beat a cheap speaker with cheap coloration any day
You could sell your PC speakers, buy an EQ, use it when you're casually listening and bypass it when you're not, all with one less output to switch and connect
I'm not here to argue frequencies either, I'm here to argue that monitors are better than generic logitech PC speaker trash and to help you realize that you're limiting yourself by not using your monitors, colored or not

>>58157463
>he boosts EQ instead of cutting EQ

>>58157496
Yeah I do agree with you somewhat and I might end up using my monitors all the time when I have everything set up
Not gonna buy an EQ though

>>58157529
Well I think it's a worthwhile upgrade over software EQ, especially for normal computer usage and browsing where a global software EQ might be difficult to set up

>>58157548
Thanks for the input then, it's not something I had considered but I'll look into it

>>58157298
WD reds are for 24/7 read/writes, I'm sure you could find a cheaper one that fits your usage better

Will going from FX8300 to 8350 be significant enough upgrade? I'd like to avoid paying out for a new board if possible.

>>58157580
Isn't that the purples that are for surveillance I.e. constant writing?
The blue range are apparently not very reliable and I'm happy to spend a bit more on a trustworthy HDD
Got any recommendations?

>>58157616
Yeah you're right, not exactly sure what "NAS drive" means in terms of actual reliability features, but I can't imagine it's changes the failure rate from a blue or black significantly
HGST and Hitachi have extremely low failure rates

>>58154624
>3gb
A 470 is better in every way.

>>58157664
Thanks

>>58157298
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/LK8RwV
GPU is optional, depends on what you want to do.

>>58155419
The empty 5.25" bay is the perfect place for extra cables to go. I'd attach thhe ones hanging down to the little tabs under the hard drive cage so they're out of the way of the video card you might be putting in it eventually. Also rotate the exhaust fan 90 degrees so its cable is out of the way of any future expansion cards.

>>58156295
You can get a cheaper motherboard, and you probably won't need that extra case fan.

>>58154624
Looks good. Unless you're planning an upgrade to 1440p and just needed a placeholder card, you might want the 6GB version. 6GB is perfect for 1080p

>>58154060
Just OC your i5 and get a 1070, or buy the 1080Ti

>>58154624
>1060 3G
Fucking don't that card is gimped dog shit.
>16 GB
If you need it, yes.
>no radeon
Why? The RX470 eats the 1060 3G alive.

>>58157834
Wat
Are you taking about the other anon's suggested fixes to my build?

>>58156556
When I said stand-in, I meant that the PSU I have in there isn't listed on PCPartPicker, so I just put a 300W PSU there to match the 300W PSU I actually have.

>>58157933
I can't tell anymore. You'll still be able to save a bit on the motherboard either way.

Thoughts on the Gammaxx 400?

I'm running an i3 6100 overclocked to 4GHz on stock cooling and want an aftermarket cooler to push it farther.

The Gammaxx 400 seems to hold its own against fairly decent coolers in benchmarks, and seems like Hyper 212 levels of value.

More important, I CAN BUY ONE FOR EIGHTEEN CANADIAN PESOS on Newegg right now. For reference, that's about $10 American after the Canada tax and exchange rate. A 212EVO costs $40 Canadian Pesos.

What's the catch? It looks like a good cooler for mid tier CPUs and it's basically fucking free as far as Canadian prices go. I'm missing something, right?

>>58157929
3GB1060 is a fine card. 3GB will be the minimum for a long time

Also the 4GB 470 is a better card in my opinion, but it certainly doesn't eat the 3GB 1060 alive

>>58157369
Fyi onboard graphics have been a CPU thing for a decade. Not motherboard. And an i5 should have really decent onboard graphics, maybe enough for CSGO and TF2 tier gaming.

>>58157602
No, but you might want to put a Hyper 212 EVO on the 8300 to make sure that it can sustain its boost clocks

>>58158133
The problem is the 3gb 1060 has a gimped memory bus.

>>58158120
Do it.

>>58157984
Upgrade your PSU regardless because unless you have a very good PSU the high load is not healthy in the long run.

>>58158120
Probably fine, might be noisy or something

>>58158120
Decent cooler, decent deal, only downside are the push pins and no good thermal compound on this thing.

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>>58157834
If i rotate the exhaust fan the cable cant reach the SYS_FAN1 slot.

And yeah i trew most of it on it.
Only some audio cables and the firewire cable are loose around.

I think i will remove the 200GB HDD because its making a buzzing noise, a loud one.

>>58158196
Need an SSD for that thing

>>58158133
The 1060 3G is completely gimped, 3GB is bare minimum and you can't unlock processing units via flash like you can on AMD cards.
The RX470 is totally worth it.

>>58158194
Should I pick up some proper thermal compound or will I be fine because
>a fucking i3

Why is pricing for ram so fucking weird?

No heatsink, 2133mhz, 15CL ram, MORE expensive than 2400-3000mhz ram with the same CL. Why? Who buys this shit? And no, it wasn't ECC memory.

>>58158209
Free shipping moved my ADATA SU800 to january 5.

>>58158212
Pretty sure you can't unlock the 470 yo a 480, and they quit selling the 8GB cards as 4GB, so that's gone too.

The 470 can have a really nice percentage OC since its sick clocks are low, depending on the chip you get

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>>58158196

>>58158262
Maybe there's some compatibility issues above 2133MHz?

Although why you wouldn't just buy the faster RAM and underclock it in that case is beyond me

>>58158312
It usually downclocks automatically.

>>58158312
All DDR4 memory runs at 2133 by default unless you change it.

>>58158282
Alright, i understand now and will do it.

>>58158262
It's flooded and barely performs any differently, a $5 sale destroys the entire pricing hierarchy of ram
Basically dumb consumer markrt

Why is the AMD Ryzen (@ 3.4GHz) scoring higher on the Cinebench and Fritz Chess benchmarks than the Intel i7 7700K (O.C. @ 5GHz)? I'm new to this, sorry.

Reference material: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/55544/amds-next-gen-ryzen-benched-against-7700k-6900k/index.html

>>58158375
Plenty o cores, and those benchmarks use plenty o cores
The 6700/6600/7600/7700K's single thread performance is still better, even a 6500's single thread performance is better
But yeah, more cores and more threads, with stuff like DX12 becoming bigger it's looks like more coars is starting to be relevant

I have a 1060 and one small black square broke off. It has three solder points, two on top one on the bttom and is right next to the 6 pin. I taped it back in place with the solder touching. I want to upgrade to a 1070, not gonna go into reasoning, is it possible to solder the piece back on so I can sell my 1060? It's my fault it broke off but if I left it off do I think It would make it through RMA?

>>58158416
set it on fire and then rma it, say you left it running crysis while you were at work

>>58158416
I should add that it's really small. Like one of the smallest components on the pcb and there are a lot of them, it's labeled 29. The card was totally dead with out and works fine now

>>58156295
Above anon here

Should I aim for 1920*1080 or 2560*1440? Having a lot of screen real estate seems really tempting.

>>58158444
The only reason to restrict yourself to 1080 is games. It is far far easier to game at 1080. You could get a 1440 monitor cheap but people don't because the gpu needed costs at least 200 more than a 1080p worthy gpu.

>>58158444
You will not be able to play 1440p gaymes with a 1050ti
You might be able to force upscaled 1080p but it might look blurry
For all other purposes a 1050ti should be able to hold up normal programs at 1440p fine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZpKP8K

i need some help making a gaming pc for my brother

Just bought a 1440p144hz freesync monitor and my current i5-2500k r9 290 build isn't powerful enough.
Will probably get a rx 490 when they come out. Hopefully soon.
Should I upgrade my CPU now or just wait for kaby lake or zen and do a whole new build?

>>58158460
>>58158466
So if I care about muh gaymes, I'll go 1920*1080, if I don't, 2560*1440.
I know very little about graphics related shit, but what if a game's windowed to 1920 on a 2560 monitor? Is that going to kill performance?

>>58158178
Fine, how does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/y2kGhq

>>58158492
You'll need a new motherboard to upgrade right now anyways
Your CPU will hold up fine for a while longer (have you overclocked it?), but don't buy Kaby Lake or Zen until there's plenty of benchmarks to prove your choice
Honestly I think a 1440p 144hz freesync monitor is a tough choice when you don't know when you'll have hardware that can fully utilize it, a 480 can play some games at 1440p/60hz, a Fury X can hold its own against a 1070 at 1440p, turn down some settings and 144fps could be possible

>>58158569
>overclock
Yep, to 4.5ghz
I was using a 1440p60 monitor at medium/high-ish settings for most games. I don't necessarily need to max out at 144fps in all games so I'll just stick with what I have and check back in a month or so.

I have a 500w or 550w would this be ok with 1070, a i7 4790k & G.skill ares ddr3 2x 8gb

>>58158476
If that's your budget, bump it up to a 2tb Hitachi drive, get rid of the DVD drive, and get a cheaper case so you can afford a 240-256gb ssd.
There is basically no reason to not go for the latest CPUs and DDR4. You don't need an i7 for gaming either.

>>58158538
Not at all but gaming at 4k needs almost 4 times the graphics performance as 1080. It's a bit less than that but yeah the single biggest stain on fps is resolution. You can set render scaling in some games to 150% to simulate a 1440p workload on your gpu

>>58158715
I'm pretty on the fence about graphics cards, anyway. I heard AMD's VEGA might be hot shit.

New to PC Building, wondering if anyone knows a good way to add an internal speaker to my case (not that beepy shit, like an actual mono speaker you get in Macs and some Lenovos etc)

don't need lecturing on how I need a proper audio system I don't use this machine for that I just want a speaker in the case even if it doesn't sound amazing .

ideally one that mutes whne phones are plugged in like macs do.

>>58158133
>>58158176
>>58158212

W-what do you guys mean by "gimped"?

I also don't like Radeon because the only 2 times I bought a Radeon card it died on me while all my Nvidia cards literally lasted forever.

My only sadness with Nvidia so far is that I have to throw out perfectly good cards because they are old, like my GeForce 8600 GT that I ended up puttting in the trash because I didn't have more room in my "old pc parts" closet.

I only intend to play vidya on 1080p. Less actually, since I use two windows and most games don't have proper Borderless Windowed so I just use 1800x1000 as a resolution.

>>58158804

>use two windows

I meant "use two monitors".

If I was considering buying either the rx 480 8gb or the r9 Fury, which would be the better option, considering they're at about the same price on newegg?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202223

>>58158787
>Internal speaker in case.

That's some DIY shit if I ever heard some.
You'll either have to get a flat as fuck speaker and do some work on it to attach it to the case, or cut open part of the case for the speaker.

What you're asking for, you need to go see /diy/, they can help you out better than we can with that kind of shit.

>>58158804
Gimped as in-

-3GB, won't be enough for future games.
-10% less CUDA cores than what the 6GB version has.

And what cards did you buy? That was then, this is now. shit changes.

>>58158708
I'm just going off what he requested, you have any suggestions on the cpu and motherboard? i dont want him to need/want to upgrade it anytime soon

>>58158840
Fury man, its actually 239.99 because of rebates.

Shit will get you places, enough until vega.

>>58158899
Cheers I'll look into it, had a feeling it was more DIY but just asking in case somebrand made something that easily slotted in.

>>58158899
Second this. At the same time though if you're happy with a haphazard solution you can do it pretty easy. There are audio headers on the motherboard for front panel audio that you could use probably. Or get an internal usb hub and plug a usb speaker into it or a cheap Bluetooth speaker and leave it charging via the usb hub and switch audio outputs manially.

>>58158945
....
Changed some stuff.
He'll be able to upgrade it to something much more powerful should he choose too, intels 4th gen CPUs work, but it's better to move up to the newer stuff.
Especially since the old stuff is so much more expensive.

Note-I have the steel series, works brilliant, along with the headset.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8dGmNN

>>58158476
No SSD in 2016 is a special kind of hell

>>58159066
Eh, not really. i was without an SSD up until august or so, it was around that time when I discovered what the SSD truly offered.

Before that, I was stuck on a win 7 laptop from oct 2015, then on a Vista PC from 2009, God bless that metal bastard, he served me well.

Not so much about my pc itself but I've encountered an issue so I'd appreciate help.
>be installing windows 10 on newly built pc
>don't have disc drives so using flash drives instead, 1 for Windows 1 for mobo drivers
>be in bios having issues (first time doing this) and after moving a flash drive into a different usb port my cursor freezes and keyboard stops working
>bios isn't frozen, time and Temps change so it's just the mouse and keyboard

I've already tried powering off the pc and turning it back on, changing which usb port I use, pressing the reset button and repeating etc.

Help would be appreciated.

>>58159008
I agree, tape a USB speaker to the inside of your case and wire it internally, just "select playback device" on Windows to switch it if you need to

>>58157664

NAS drives have firmware tailored to always-on file server use, and have slightly different hardware to better cope with that specific application. For private home use you aren't likely to put enough workload on the drive or have any data that matters enough for the difference to be important to you.

>>58159062
750W is overkill. So is the 1080. Are you sure he wants a windowed case?

>>58159299
People keep saying "if you don't have irreplaceable data" like there's a certain threshold of data importance where your hard drive failing doesn't matter anymore, my anime matters too, nobody wants their model of hard drive to fail more often

>finally new case with actual cable management options
>manage that shit
>open it again months later
>discover that cables put a lot of pressure on connectors because they're looped and curved
>PCB for primary HDD is actually bent so far by the sata-pwr cable that it sticks out past the bottom of the drive chassis now

Surprised the solder joints on the sata-pwr connector didn't let go first.

https://www.visiontek.com/graphics-cards/radeon-rx480-polaris-edition-8gb-gddr5-402-detail.html

Gimme thots please

>>58159342

Your anime is mass-produced on multiple physical and digital formats and can be replaced.

Personal financial documents, private or confidential projects, or your will and testament... not so much.

So that's certainly one threshold.

The important stuff in most cases is pretty small and easily backed up.

>>58159393
It's got the awful blower design. Was there ever a good blower style heatsink?

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Hey /g/ I'm planning on building a computer for my Dad. He usually browses the web, watches videos and does some word processing. Can someone give any suggestions or feedback? Also I'm on a tight budget so if someone can lower the price without compromising a lot of performance and changing the case that would be great.

Intro to electronics question. If something on a pcb breaks off that was soldered on will any sufficiently conductive material work for the solder or do you need to use the exact same kind?

>>58159487
NUC or chromebook.

>>58159498
You need solder.

RX 470 or GTX 1050 ti

>>58159487
if all he does is browes the web and stuff, he doesn't need to be on the intel platform. Pick up and Athlon X4 860k, a suitable mobo, and use some of the extra cash to get him an 8gb stick of ram. You could also afford to drop down to a lower wattage psu.

>>58159512
Stop being poor

>>58159531
Stop masturbating.

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>post yfw you have a 1070/80 evga card

Looking to buy a pc or most of one i currently have ddr3 16gb, 500w psu and a 2tb hhd.

I would like to keep it around 1000 dollars and would like a good intel cpu and 1070 for gaming while multitasking I'll also need a new motherboard I am assuming that with the changes my 500w psu will have to be replaced

>>58159520
The Athlon x4 860k is more expensive than the Pentium

>>58159487
Check craigslist and hardwareswap if you're a burger for a cheaper case and maybe PSU if you wanna save some money.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/49BfxY

Fuck me up senpai.
You think my current cooler will do for some mild OCing?

Just got 1200 dollars. Want to spend it all on the best possible PC. Can I just get a list of things I should buy on amazon?

>>58159512
470.

>>58159487
Start with something like this instead.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167134R

>>58159667
Put something together from pcpartpicker and we'll start from there.

>>58159330
You reach peak effieciency with the 750w, plus it'll last you longer.
1080, just making the most of your money.
Same with the windowed case.
>>58159487
Thats...
too expensive.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bPD9wV
>>58159587
Don't mind the processor, it's the rest of the setup that's expensive.
Fractal Design Core 1000/1100 do really well for these cheap kind of setups.

>>58159638
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8PGmNN
That's all, nothing too big.

if, according to thebottlnecker.com, my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu, should i underclock my gpu? i dont have the funds to justify upgrading cpu

its an intel i7 290 2.67 Ghz and rx 480 4gb

>>58159760
>i7-290.
I'm posting from a i7-240m portable shitposting machine, but damn bruh. You held onto that shit tightly.

And yeah, i'd underclock.

>>58159760
>my cpu is bottlenecking my gpu, should i underclock my gpu
Dumbest post of the night right here.

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Bought myself an optiplex gx620 for christmas, 3.8ghz pentium D, 2gb ddr2, other shit specs
Just want to make a fun project machine, rice it out for the lols
Issue is the inverted mobo with room for only a single slot card
What card should i get for it? Already looking at other stuff

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>>58159545
>Fell for the EVGA meme

>>58159781
He's right though, that's a severe bottleneck, he might as well get those lower temps

>>58155824
K-series CPUs don't come with coolers so yes, you will need to buy one even if you don't plan on OCing.

>>58153901
that's so fucking inefficient holy shit

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9nFWJV

im this >>58159570
guy who was trying to get spoon fed before

this is what ive come up with if you guys know of a motherboard that is compatible with this cpu and ddr3 it would help a lot tying to keep it under $1000

>>58159852
as of now its 979.99 but it has no ram

zalman zm-z9 is the case

>>58159852
You're out of luck with that CPU. Cannot use DDR3 on anything past Devil's Canyon (4790 ect).

>>58159852
Skylake doesn't support DDR3.
Just DDR4.
You have to buy new ram or look for a diff CPU.

>>58159875
>>58159878
>>58159879

Do you think using my 500w psu would be ok with this build?

What is objectively the best PC i can make for myself in a normal sized case? Without caring about price.

>>58159910
Go 600-650.
>>58159919
Define "normal sized" case.
>Mini-ITX
>Micro-ATX
>ATX
>EATX

>>58159968
Whatever one of those is the biggest.

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>>58159919
>normal
Nigga what the fuck is normal

>>58159987
I just mean something you might actually see in someone's home.

>>58159983
>>58160019

>EATX
Wait, that's a motherboard form factor.
But "Normal" Varies man. Sometimes size doesn't mean jack, except in the case of mini-itx cases, but for the most part, I'm guessing you'll usually see ATX to Micro-ATX on a constant basis.
But if you're talking about the largest case dude...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WT8Zxr/cooler-master-case-rc902xbkkn2

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kzM323/thermaltake-case-ca1d800f6wn00

IIRC, there is bigger but I can't find it on PCPP.

>>58159919
Since /g/ is being autisic I'll give you the simple answer. Normal is probably a mid priced midtower. You can build anything from a $200 shitposting rig to a $1500 beast in one. You can't go full retard with 12 hard drives and 4 graphics cards.

Midtower max:
- Top end i7 with a water-cooling rig
- 2 full sized graphics cards
- 2-3 hard drives and a similar number of SSDs

>>58156858
Anyone?

>>58160068
>biggest case
Mountain Mods. They have ones the size of a fridge.

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZqC26X
Babby's first. Just ordered the parts.

This is a general question, for context I have C2D E4500.

Is it worth it to buy an unlocked intel cpu so that when it gets old we try to get some more juice out of it?
Assuming we use decent air cooling for OC.

For example, consider i5 2500k . This is a well known old chip. Suppose a person buys this chip and that motherboard series that allows OC. Now another person buys a higher model chip that is locked and a simple mobo as he can't oc.
Both person spent the same money but the locked cpu person will have a better cpu initially.
Now years later will the unlocked cpu benefit the first person?

Need some monitor advice.

I have an Asus VE276Q and haven't felt the need to upgrade since I was still using an old gtx 580. I finally upgraded to a 1070 and now I'm feeling like I'm under utilizing it with my current monitor.

I guess the question is: does anyone have any suggestions on a monitor around $400 that would be a step up from my current one?

>>58158178
>1070 mini
>whoa 300w is not enough bro its gonna be high load all the time
guess how I know you are an old fart

>>58161074
Overclcoked 1070s easily reaches 200W

>>58157984
Anon get a better PSU.
Never cheap out in your PSU, leave atleast 10-20% overhead.

Its the last part you should ever cheap out in the build.

Is this good for a budget PC? Still missing the PSU since a lot of them are not available on amazon germany or are too expensive, what is a good one? Also is the graphic card good, would otherwise pick gtx 1060 3gb.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vX9qr7

>>58155419
it looks like one of those white cables might be the front 3.5mm jack, if so running it so close to the motherboards main power might give you some background noise on any earphones you plug in, especially if you use a mic with it.

If your headset/mic is USB though, no problem

>>58161074
Because 300 is a bad choice in this case. The PSU will run at 85% under load with everything connected, you don't know in what shape the PSU is and if he OCs anything at all he'll easily reach 300W and overload the PSU.

I have no clue what I'm doing and I'm trying to overclock my 8350
I tried looking up guides but it was tl;dr so I went into bios and found a p-state setting and changed the modifier from 2.0 to 2.1, then booted into windows and it reads 4.3ghz instead of the 4.1ghz that it was at before
did I just overclock?
should I have changed the VID or anything like that?
I read that this model can go comfortably up to 4.5ghz but I only have fan cooling, so I'm not going to try that

Can some one recommend a super quiet case for under $120 USD?

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I want to get an HTC Vive.

I currently have:

>GTX 1080 FTW
>ASUS M5A99FX PRO R2.0 mobo
>AYYMD FX 6200 processor
>Corsair 8GB DDR3 1333 RAM

I really want to get 2 more sticks of RAM for 16 Gigs.
I also REALLY want to get a new processor.

Question:

>Should I get the AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core to fit my Mobo socket, or should I buckle down and get an I7 6700K with a new mobo?

Also:

>Should I get DDR3 1333 or move up to 1600hz?

>>58162621
Is FX-8350 vs i7 6700K really a competition? I'd be going with the i7 if you can

>>58162597
>i am too stupid to google
>i never lurked here before
>please spoon feed me
Fuck off.

Intel Core i5-6400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
MSI H110M ECO
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Kingston ValueRAM 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory
Crucial MX300 275GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
XFX AMD Radeon RX 470 4GB Single Fan Triple X
EVGA 430W Power Supply
Corsair Carbide 100R

Anything I should change here? someone told me I should change my PSU.

>>58162643
I thought so... Steam's VR test told me that the processor was perfectly fine, but the HTC Vive website told me that I needed an upgrade...

>>58162665
get a higher wattage PSU

>>58162674
Apparently AMD CPUs have good specs on paper but falter in actual performance especially since they don't have hyperthreading

>>58162697
Thanks for the help. Any thoughts on DDR3 1333 vs 1600?

>>58162705
If you want to switch to i7 it's neither.

>>58162665
Get the i5 6500
16GB is still a meme unless you know you need it
Get HGST HDD

>>58162621
The 8350 will be fine for VR as long as you stay on the beaten path.. Just check out gamegpu's CPU bench for Resident EVII (a VR game). Any CPU, even an FX 4200, can run it

If you go Intel (like you should because you don't want to bottleneck your expensive gfx card) and because you will more flexibility with the Vive, you can get an i5 6500K and OC it to get really high framerates

if I buy all my parts on amazon will they send me one big box of parts, or will i wind up getting a bunch of little boxes over multiple days?

i'm not someone who handles anticipation well. if it's one big box i'll be fine, but waiting day after day (especially when i live rurally so one part will be 1wk after all the others) will probably drive me crazy.

>>58162705
derp.

I guess I really meant is there any difference in clock speeds for RAM?

>>58162714
>>58162772
i'm tired

>>58162697
Shut up, you don't know what you're taking about

>>58162738
You can select the option to ship altogether during checkout ad long as you buy stuff shipped by Amazon

>>58162772
Yes, if you get a Z170 mobo get 3000MHz DDR4, if you get a B150/H110 get 2133 or 2400, whichever is cheaper

>>58162664
>i am too stupid to google
Been researching but can't find anything decent
>i never lurked here before
Yeah I don't come here often
>please spoon feed me
Just need a little spoon feeding on this one area.

If I'm planning to game mostly on 1080p monitors, should I stick with the 1060 or go for a 1070?
Basically, is the ~100$ difference worth it for the future proofing?
Inb4
>future proofing
Do these look sound?
Parts list:
I5 6500
Gigabyte H170
8GB ram 2133mhz
Seasonic gold 550W
Seagate 1TB
Samsung 850 pro 250gb

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/drwtLD

i have my only 2tb hhd and have ever used a ssd before but will most likely buy one soon after this

i know the case is pricey but i've been using diy cases and have always had to squeeze every thing in inches or less away from the frame and im hoping this wil fex that issue

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Will my 4690k (OC 4.3ghz) bottleneck a 1070 if all I want is to pretty much max games at 1080p 60fps? Or maybe downsample from 1440p? I don't have a 144hz montior nor a 4k display.

My r9 380x kind of runs games like shit, frequent micro stuttering on most games even if I turn the settings to low. Also, AMD driver crashes aren't too uncommon as well.

I noticed that even the 480 and 1060 struggle to run every single game at 1080p 60fps, and I don't want to go with AMD again. So it's why I'm considering the 1070 instead, getting another 8gb of ram, and throwing an SSD in there. I really don't want to have to upgrade the rest, I'd rather wait a little while for that.

>>58161441
This is why you 1. use a price comparison tool like billiger.de or idealo.de, 2. buy at Mindfactory because they usually have the best prices and 3. only use Amazon if it's really worth it.
The RX470 4G is a good card with good value, it's a good choice. Overall you could get something like this: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kcNLd6
Black prices are from Mindfactory, buy after midnight to avoid paying shipping. What's about storage? If you don't have a SSD, get one.

>>58163006
>Been researching but can't find anything decent
In that case you are blind.
>Yeah I don't come here often
Then lurk more.
>Just need a little spoon feeding on this one area.
No, you need glasses.

This seems like the appropriate thread for my issue so,

My Gigabyte ud5 had been giving me trouble with my new build, it was defective out of the box and repaired through rma and ran for a month before it started up again at which point Gigabyte replaced it. Now its worked fine for a week but now it is shutting fown in the middle of gameplay which led me to believe it is a heat issue.

My msi rx480 gaming's fans had not been running upon inspection so i reseated it and they run fine now and all other fans seem fine. I can boot up and get into windows but it shuts down shortly after still.

Could it be the gpu is still hot and not cooling fast enough triggering the shut downs? I'm going to let it sit before I start tinkering again if any anon has ideas.in

>>58163210
>In that case you are blind.
Maybe
>Then lurk more.
I will
>No, you need glasses.
Would rather spend on PC

>>58163261
Monitor the temps of all parts, if you find something suspicious, that might be the problem, otherwise it's going to be shit to find what's causing this.

>>58163272
Honest advice: if you can't find a fucking silent case on your own, maybe you should buy a silent prebuilt.

damn im contemplating on throwing in an extra dollars for GPU with back plating damn damn damn

please help me get discourage

>tfw my cooler Master hyper 212 won't fit in my case
I'M FUCKING RETARDED REEEEE

>>58163286
This problem only started last night with shutting down business, I was able to stay on for about 20 minutes this morning and checked the idle temps and even when the gpu fans weren't working the temps were within normal range but when I started a game up it shut down after 15 minutes or so and now it wont stay on past the log in for windows.

>>58163103
Get a 1070
120+fps> barely 60.
If you really want to future proof get 16 GB RAM.

>>58163323
Have you monitored the temps while under load? If not you might be missing some crucial info.
What and how old are your PSU / CPU and did you buy any parts used?

>>58163310
cryorig c7. Lower profile, similar price point, cooler temps. I love the 212 but wish now the c7 was as cheap as it is now when I built my rig.

>>58163350
I will check under load later if I can keep it on for that long.

Everything is new, i5 6600k and psu is a corsair rm850w gold. I'm really hoping it just needs to cool down completely before it can stay on for a period of time so I can see about load temps.

what is a good lga 1151 gaming motherboard for about $150

>>58163392
Keep it off for some time to let everything cool down, discharge it and then power it on and monitor temps and CPU usage.
See if you can find some useful analysis tools in your BIOS.
If nothing helps, reseat everything and if you have the possibility, try other components.

>>58163406
>(((GAMING))) mobo
>>>/v/

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Kill me

>>58163286
I can find them, I just want recommendations as I'm not very familiar with reputable companies
I'm looking at the Be Quiet Silent Base 800 or Fractal Design Define R5 but they're both around $170 in Australia so I'm wondering if I can find similar quality for cheaper

>>58163422
I was able to keep on long enough to get in game and check temps and the gpu is definitely the cause it shot up to 60 just staying in menu and I saw that the gpu fans were going and then stopped.

Should I reseat the gpu? Tbh it sits kind of weird in my case and wont screw in the back of the case if it is seated perfectly so that could be a cause for losing fans but could it just be the gpu is defective?

>>58163449
Not that guy, but if you end up buying a be quiet case, you won't regret it.

Not a shill, just my experience.

>>58163449
Both options are very good, both companies are reputable and both offer smaller/cheaper silent cases.

>>58163481
I don't know about your specific GPU, but it might be running on some eco mode where fans only spin after some specific load.
Yes reseat it, if it doesn't help...
Your best bet is to remove the GPU, connect the monitor to the mobo and monitor how the PC handles a workload, if nothing is suspicious, do a stress test, if it passes it is the GPU.

Also.. Sits weird? Take a picture.

>>58163444
>Intel E97378
Just buy an aftermarket cooler

>>58163551
>>58163501
Thanks both, guess I'll just bite the bullet and go for a case in that range then

rockin a gtx 760 right now and looking to upgrade, anything worth springing for at about two hundo?

>>58163308
Don't need it

>>58163606
470/480/1060

>>58163191
>Will my 4690k (OC 4.3ghz) bottleneck a 1070
No

>>58163130
Get 3000MHz RAM

>>58163103
Drop to B150 or upgrade to Z170 mobo. H170 is for mGPU without OC
At 1080p get the 1060

>>58163551
It may be hard to tell from the pic but I have the ports side flush against the case so this can screw in and be secure but there is some play with the connection to the mobo but had been working fine until now. I will show you the weird seating next

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Is this build legit? If so do you guys have anymore? Im trying to give my younger brother something that can run total war: warhammer.

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>>58163682
Forgot pic...

>>58163683
Not sure if you can swap PSUs.. might be a funky connection between PSU and mobo
A better idea is just to get the 1050Ti, which has similar perf to the 960 but doesn't require a 6-pin from the PSU.

Make sure you get a model that draws all its power from the mobo

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>>58163551
Here is the after reseat pic with no screws, again sorry for the shitty pic but when the gpu is snapped into place properly there is no way to screw the backs into case without pulling on the gpu and quickly screwing it in which I believe affects the connection to the mobo.

Part me just wants to keep it screwless but that can't be good for the gpu to just be hanging like that.

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what's a good gpu passthrough compatible motherboard? All the ones I can find on the internet that are absolutely confirmed to work with it are either old or expensive. Right now I have a Asus Z170-E in my PCpartpicker build, but that one costs $150. I'm looking for something around $100, and less if possible.

>>58160947
Dude, go get an i3-6100 and a Z170.

Intel is releasing an i3-7XXXK series chip that's unlocked next year.

>>58155419
That looks like a DDR4 motherboard? and looks like only one stick of memory?! You should really have TWO (and a matched pair of them) for best performance. Actually dump one of those HDD for an SSD pronto! We'll make your system much faster.

>>58163919
if he's on a budget, and a 1x8 gig stick is the cheapest there is(in my case as well) then a 1x8 works out because simply adding another will mean more ram on a dual channel.

Skylake can't quad channel last i checked.

>>58163682
>>58163691
>>58163747
Photoquality really is shit.
If you properly placed the GPU there should be no problems, the GPU can hang a little, though, that's normal.
Have you already tried the part without the GPU i told you?
Did you properly connected the 8pin, too?

how much would the gtx 1080 cost in about 4-6 months time?

>>58162679
Do you have a recommendation?

>>58162724
ty

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Hey guys Merry Christmas. Made myself a pc the other month and got myself an hdd today. I have gotten it plugged in and everything but I have no idea how to actualy use it. Could someone please point me in the right direction? Thanks.

>>58161441
Graphics card is good. 4GB 470 and 3GB 1060 are pretty close to each other. Depends on price, which games you play, and how long you want to keep the card.

>>58160947
The i5 2500K was the highest clocked i5 in the series. No point in buying an old chip unless you want an i7

>>58160068
I have the HAF. It's ok except that there's no access to the CPU backplate, so if you want to change coolers/paste you have to completely remove the mobo.

I really like the horizontal mobo orientation though

>>58159760
No, just turn up GPU related graphics settings, turn down CPU related graphics settings (draw distance, shadows)

>>58164228
Right click, format, assign drive letter

>>58164249
Thank you.

First time doing this, any idea what I can save on?
I always had laptops so I need a monitor as well. Suggestions are welcome. Budget is around $1000

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zmzn9W

>>58164230
>draw distance, shadows
>CPU intensive effects

Will an OC'd i5-6600k bottleneck either a GTX 1050ti or 1060?

>>58164021
Yea, everything is stable with no gpu so that seems to be the cause for the shut downs. I just don't understand why the fans would stop spinning, I mean if its cool enough the fans don't need to be on thats fine but why would it cause a shutdown at even idle temps now? I will probably have to send it in but on another note, if this issue is sorted would I be able to let the gpu hang on like that with no screws?

>>58164065
pls respond

>>58163195
>mindfactory

Never used this site before, always amazon, but it seems the prices are way cheaper. Is this site reliable with shipping outside germany, austria and with waranty? Cause amazon's waranty is pretty easy and reliable.
Also I already have storage so I don't need any more. SSD and HDD. ALso it seems like the no shipping cost service doesn't apply for shippments outside of Germany, so not sure if it would still be cheaper than amazon.

>>58164398
Yes you need a non-OC'ed 6650C

>>58164465
Should be just as reliable as within the country. Amazons warranty surely is top notch, so if you want to prioritize this, i don't think you have other options.
This is what you'd get from Amazon: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/zLQ3NN

>tfw you do your first build
>tfw when it boots on the first attempt
>tfw you hear all the fans whirring away
>tfw bios starts up
>tfw you pick your boot drive and it goes straight into the OS
>tfw you're getting all the options straight

>tfw you make a dumb mistake
>tfw you pick your usb flash drive as the main/boot/system drive
>tfw you can't stop your pc from booting from the damn usb stick

>>58164427
Have you run a stress test on your system w/o the GPU or at least played some minor game / watched some 1080p / moved gigs? If so and everythings stable then it's 99% the GPU.
Take a look at the PCI connector, maybe something's not right there, see if the 8pin is connected properly, see if BIOS or MSI afterburner give you some insight.
I canse nothing helps, RMA the card.
>would I be able to let the gpu hang on like that with no screws?
Sure you can, but don't. Screw it in, not too tight, not too lose. If you think something's weird or off, don't force it, post pics and if you can please some that weren't taken with a potato.

One last thing, have you a backup system or a friend who'd let you put the GPU on a different system to verify it's the GPU?
Because if that system runs stable, it's either the mobo/PCI slot or PSU that fails to deliver the needer power.

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>>58164695
>current year
>not installing your OS on your phones SD card

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>>58164727
Here is a better pic, this is how it was initially flush to the back of the case which leaves the gpu sort of wiggly in the pci slot. I'm almost 100% certian its the gpu itself, the mobo is brand new so I doubt it is the pci slot, should I try it in a different pci slot first just in case?

>>58164974
> leaves the gpu sort of wiggly in the pci slot
Have you forgotten to close that plastic thing at the back? Maybe it didn't snap back on it's on, it's similar to RAM slots.
>the mobo is brand new
So? If a brand new GPU can be faulty, why not the mobo?
>should I try it in a different pci slot first just in case?
Yes.

I'm not sure if I should ask it here, so sorry if that's the case.

Is it worth to get into the ultrawide display gimmick? Right now I have a normal wide 24" one, but I want bigger. I could either get a 29" UW or a 32" NW. Both curved. I don't feel the UW at that size is a big upgrade.
Also, is it a good idea to keep the old one as a second monitor and mix UW and NW displays? Thanks for your help.

>>58165130
I'd say only if you have the money, otherwise get a second or even third screen. Personally i run 3x 1920x1080 for work and play on one monitor. Both options have pros and cons.

>>58165180
But for strictly focusing on one task, like watching a movie, a UW display is better, even if it's slightly smaller? I guess I just need more money, or wait for better options. There's only a handful of UW curved displays that are not overpriced as hell.

>>58165486
>handful of UW curved displays
UW, sure.. why not, but don't pay for the curved meme, that's completely pointless.

>>58165697
Don't get it wrong but where can I read more about that? All I see is that it not pointless. If it is, that could save a lot of money and trouble for me.

>>58165872
>where can I read more about that?
You're on the internet m8. What do you want to read about it anyways? I'd simply go to a store and try one of those curved meme screen out.

>>58165907
Well, excuse me, but it's Christmas here so I can't. I thought I prepare before I even go to a shop.
But anyways. The only thing I heard about it is that it's not pointless. This info is brand new to me. I believe it's okay to ask for a bit of citations.

>>58165976
Well.. the screen is curved, i guess? I also only now german sources, so sorry, can't support you there.
I can only tell you a friend of mine had a similar decision to make, he bought a 34" ultrawide display for work/games and decided against getting a curved one.

>>58166194
This is my problem, the curved adds a lot to the price, but everyone says it's better. I guess I take your advice and go to some place where I can actually look at a curved monitor. Thanks again.

/g/ just got 50 bucks, what can I buy that's not a stick of 1x8 GB Ram for future Ryzen PC?

>>58167173
A decent CPU cooler if you still have a stock one

A bunch of fans

An aftermarket GPU heatsink if yours burns with the force of a thousand suns

A Dremel and some polycarbonate to put a window in your case if you don't have one

A 500gb hard drive for those backups you should have but don't

>>58167199
>CPU cooler
AM4 motherboards require new form factors for coolers or an adapter.
>Fans
Can't argue with that
>Aftermarket heatsink.
Good deal, since I'll be running Vega/my old 470.
>DIY
Uhhhh
>500GB HDD
Another good deal.

Think I'll count on the fans and whatnot since I'm going for a windowless Fractal Design Mini-C, when the Micro-ATX AM4 Mobos roll out.

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>>58167199
>tfw you forgot to get a piece of clear plastic to window your case
That's probably why my computers slow

>>58167199
>zenfag needs a window to prove to everybody he bought a CPU

>>58167199
>>58167250
>A decent CPU
Only makes sense if it's Noctua since they send you free mounting kits for new sockets for lifetime. Do other brands do this, too?

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>>58167289
>noctua expects their product to last longer than Intel expects their product to last
Really speeds up ur synapses...

>>58167320
They will also send you AMD mounting kits for something like Zen, you know?

>>58167260
>>58167274
I never implied it would make it faster, just that it's a fun PC building DIY project within his budget

The "smart" option would be to save the $50 and get a slightly better Zen processor then you would otherwise

>>58167320
No shit? A high performance Q6600 cooler would still be a high performance Kaby Lake i7 cooler. But a Q6600 will eat shit against the i7 in performance.

It turns out incredibly intricate silicon chips advance faster than a chunk of copper with a fan on it.

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>>58167355
Well nobody expects an AMD socket to outlive a cooler of any kind, especially if it that cooler is cooling an AMD CPU lol xd master race Intel pajeet btfo FOSS botnet on suicide watch

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>>58167408
Please take your meds.

>>58167408
More like
>AM3 socket will have a longer working lifetime than the space shuttle
>Personal computers on Mars will use either an Intel LGA 2112 socket or AM4+
>Personal computers in the year 3000 will use Intel LGA Quantum™ (√2)^27 sockets or AM7
>AM7 will still be backwards compatible with DDR3

>>58167448
>personal computers on Mars
>personal
Every computer that makes it there will be licensed by some organization and used for research. Nobody is gonna be shitposting in Facebook with a half hour of wifi latency

>>58164344
3000MHz RAM
Cheapest 23" monitor you can find on craigslist

>>58164363
But they are

>>58164398
No

>>58165130
Depends on what you want the UW for. If for productivity, get it, then mount your 16:9 vertically.

UW sucks for most movies and old games. 34" curved is probably worth it, but 29" is doubtful.

>>58167173
Just do you best to hold on to your $50 moron. Buy everything at once

>>58167477
>Just do you best to hold on to your $50 moron. Buy everything at once
I'm literally shaking.
I need Ryzen.

I need it now.

Also, don't call me a moron, pal.

I live in Canada. I have an HD 7870. I play at 1080p60 but I want more vram for GTA V so I can max it out. The 7870 gets 70 fps almost maxed out just with settings tweaked so it stays under 2gb vram.

I have been looking for a card and right now I am stuck deciding between either a 470 4gb for $280 a gtx 970 for $200 (used) or 1060/480 which are like $380.

The prices are so high because of leaftax and shipping. I find paying $200 for a used 970 a much better deal but that shitty vram is annoying :(

What do /g/?

btw I have a 6700k and 16gb ram and also in a year I will be buying a 4k monitor and an appropriate card. Right now I want something that will last a year.

>>58167472
>shitposting in Facebook with a half hour of wifi latency
>implying i'd want to shitpost with those filthy terrans
>implying the Mars networks won't be a rebirth of the internet
Your opsec would have to be good if you're running free as in freedom tho

>>58167499
>I need amd

You are literally a moron.

My friend wants to build a poorfag PC for as cheap as possible (he needs a monitor as well). I've got an old GTX 670 that I'm going to give him but what's the cheapest CPU that he can get away with while still playing new-ish games on decent settings at 1080p?

>>58167513
970 by far at those prices and as a holdover card

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>>58167518
>having real life social interactions with one of the 17 people on the planet is too difficult

>>58167513
Go 970
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-RX-470/2577vs3640

>bought a Z170 motherboard for the unofficial i3 overclocking meme on Sky Lake
>Kaby Lake will have an unlocked i3 SKU and be socket compatible with Sky Meme
>I accidently created the perfect setup for it
Feels fucking good man

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>>58167553
>buy a top-spec overclocking chipset and nothing else
>OH MY GOD OVERCLOCKABLE I3 IT WAS MEANT TO BE

>>58167520
Absolute cheapest would be a current 2c / 2t Pentium, but that won't run all games.. best option is B150 mobo + i3 6100 + 8GB cheapest DDR4.

There's a 2c / 4t Pentium coming out soon for $90 though

>>58167519
Nah bruh, you don't understand.
If Ryzen turns out to be utter shite, I won't get it.
BUT, BUT, if it DOES turn out to be a game changer, I am getting it.

I just want it to be a gamechanger.

>>58167588
I've been looking at the Pentium G4400. He wants to spend less than $500 CAD so it's probably the only option. He can always upgrade later I guess.

>>58167610
Yeah, that's the only option right now man.
Stick with it then move up later.

>>58167575
It was on sale, and was only like $50 bucks more expensive than a good non-Z motherboard

Why wouldn't I pay $50 for the i3 BLCK overclocking meme? Intel releasing an unlocked i3 just means God wills it.

Also it has USB-C.

>>58167643
Most motherboard nowadays also have USB 3.1

>>58167588
>i3 K editions
>Hyper threaded Pentiums
Intel must be legitimately scared of Zen eating their low end

>>58167665
USB 3.1 doesn't necessarily mean type C connector does it? I have a Nexus so I wanted a type C connection specifically.

>>58167610
Tell him to cough up the cash for the i3. He'll be much happier. That Pentium can't even run TW3 or GTAV

>>58167689
No but type c doesn't necessarily include USB 3.1 either
3.1 is what you want, the high speed, high wattage, multi-standard bus. Type C is just a small form factor, it doesn't always imply USB 3.1 (your phone for example, I guarantee isn't 3.1 spec)

>>58167575
>oneechan

>>58153901
470 @ 8gib or 480 @ 4gib all at 1440p or is the 480 @ 8gib the only way for 1440p

>>58168166
Depends on the games you're playing, but the 470 / 480 aren't really 1440p cards

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I need some help on my build. My budget is €750-800. What would /g/ do? Please correct me if i made any mistakes! Any advice/tips are welcome.

>>58168210
That i5 doesn't work with the mobo. They're different sockets.
Get an SSD too

>>58167737
Oh sure, but I wanted to be able to plug my phone into my computer without any adaptors, so Type C was more important to me than proper 3.1 support

>>58167173
Also, in addition to this-

I have an old GTX 560 in storage, and a RX 470 in my PC.
Seeing as I'm building a new PC in the coming months, would it make sense to upgrade my 470 PC with the 240 buck Fury and a new PSU or save it for the new setup?

>>58168210
You don't need a HAF for that, if there's a smaller case for cheaper feel free to get it. Cable management looks nice but it's effect on temperature is overrated. Just make sure it fits your 1060 or you might need to Dremel a bit.

>>58168234
Is it not? What processor / mobo would you suggest? SSD is not necessary for me. Might get one later on. HHD 1TB would do me fine for the now

>>58168166
RX480 8G or GTX1060 6G for 1440p @60 or GTX1070/1080 for 1440p @144.

>>58168280
Skylake CPUs only.
i.e. i3/i5/i7 - 6XXX processors.

And the SSD will speed up boot times really fucking fast.
Windows in 20ish seconds man, that's what I'm talking about.

>>58168210
>i5-4460
>B150
>DDR3
>Corsair PSU
This must be bait.

>>58168243
I don't get it
Is there not a normal type-a plug on the other end of your phone charger? What retarded non-apple company would push that kind of stupid standard?

>>58168322
Nexus 6Ps come with a short USB C to USB A cable and a longer USB C to USB C cable

>>58168243
>I wanted to be able to plug my phone into my computer without any adaptors
Then maybe use a proper cable instead of reaching to the back of your computer each time you want to connect it?

>>58168320
My RMx PSU is fine

>>58168306
Thank you kindly for your help!

>>58168337
And I bet neither of them is USB 3.1
Just get a USB extension

>>58168280
i5 6500 or i3 6100 + B150 + 8GB DDR4
Get that SSD, 240GB for OS + games only costs 60USD

>>58168347
Or you know, a USB c to a adapter

Which one of these is better?

http://www.ncix.com/detail/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-480-ed-133915.htm?promoid=1715

or

http://www.ncix.com/detail/xfx-amd-radeon-rx-480-ad-132784.htm?promoid=1715

>>58168342
Corsair low-end PSUs are utter trash, your mid-range PSU is ok, not excellent, but ok.
The only low-end Corsair PSU worth buying is the Veangence which is only in EU reasonably priced.

>>58168368
Sapphire.
Reference blower on the XFX is shit man.

>>58168359
>>58168347
Or use the cable that came with my phone that absolutely nothing is wrong with and fits both my computer and wall charger?

>>58168382
I'm just using it to overclock so it should be fine

>>58168340
My computer is sideways on my desk because of a slightly weird setup, which means the motherboard IO is literally less than two feet away

>>58168299
And the Fury X at 1440p?

>>58168392
>Overclock
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>>58168390
You have to give your computer a reach around to find an audio jack-sized plugin to plug your phone in at all, to get absolutely no advantage over the USB A ports on the front of your computer
USB C that isn't 3.1 shouldn't even exist, but it's the latest meme for USB 2.0-capable phones so that must mean it's the only acceptable form factor right?

>>58168420
That's more like it. Still not as good as a 1070 at all but a fury X is more like a 1440p card

>>58168355
The i5 6500 boxed is €200. About the RAM. Does it make any difference if it's 2x 4gb ddr4 or 1x 8gb if you know what i mean.

>>58168421
What are you talking about

Can you share your knowledge in this general instead of the usual shitposting

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>>58168420
No idea, i don't use 1440p and everything i know is from benchmarks i saw.

>>58168447
Overclocking uses more watts than not overclocking
Take these ancient and sage words of wisdom and use them to read a book nigger

>>58168447
Ah, my bad. I thought >>58168382 said your PSU was a low end one.
But, I was implying that the result of overclocking on a low-end Corsair PSU that another anon advised against, it would result in an outcome that's bad for you but amusing for me.
That's all.

>>58168484
I have a 650w watt with 1070 and 6700k it should be fine if that's what you mean

I thought you might have been saying even the RMx are not stable enough for oc

>>58168486
I had a CX series before returning it. Overclock to any degree leads to painful coil whine do not use CX

>>58168441
You can use either, if you get an H110 you probably want 1x 8GB

>>58168392
>overclock
What are you overclocking? Can't OC your CPU on a B150, and only the K CPUs are unlocked.

>>58168420
It's ok, but hot.

>>58168532
I'm not the same anon

I have a z170 with my RMx

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