Why does /g/ hate Apple products?

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>>58046528
can't afford them.

>>58046528
Can't speak for the rest of /g/, but I don't.

Because only weebs and trannies use them.

>>58046528
price/performance ratio blows

>>58046528
because it is overpriced locked-down fashion ecosystem

Restricted.

success breeds jealousy

>>58046552

this, OSX is an objectively better desktop OS than any *NIX.

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>anime on apple shit

DELET

>you can watch anime on mac

wtf i love appel now??!?

>>58046528
Isn't it normal to hate someone who hates you?
This is exactly the case with apple.
You're not a customer, your a fucking wallet, they don't care if you're having a great experience or if you liked the devices, you'll buy it anyways.
So why bother developing a great UI and a using high quality parts when walking wallets will still buy it with crappy parts?

i don't. have a macbook pro sitting on my desk along with my desktop pc and thinkpad. wife has an imac. ipads and iphones all around the house. getting worked up over consumer products is fucking stupid. but then again we're on 4chan and most people just want to shitpost/troll and apple is an easy target. i've been on this fucking website since it's inception so i know most of you are way younger than me now, but the apple hate meme is far older than any of you. it's always been fashionable to shit on apple in the computer world.

You need to use an apple product to appreciate what it is about.

Its natural that people that were never able to afford one to say bad things about it.

>>58046640
>You're not a customer, your a fucking wallet,
This is the same for literally every single company you are delusional if you think otherwise.

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>>58046647
Life is hard on me, guys, what do I do to be a good retard like you?

>>58046662
this

>>58046552
>Grapes
>On a tree

>>58046662
This thread is about apple, apple releases objectively bad devices.
This is easy to judge apple devices, you don't have to compare them with others to see how bad they are.

>>58046597
>complaining about an open source kernel having a "locked-down fashion ecosystem" on a board where 80% of posters uses Microsoft Windows

>>58046704
>best phone on the market
>best notebook on the market
>best tablet on the market

>bad devices

ye sure

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>>58046528
Why should I pay more for something I can get cheaper?

>>58046528
but they make the best laptop and OS, who could ever hate them?

>>58046665
>rich people are stupid

Ultimate poorfag bubble delusion

>>58046693
>expecting more from an applecuck

I don't know, you can install gentoo on it.

For real though, I think people perceive the cost as being too high. Because if you're technology fluent, you know that you can build the "same" computer for half the price. But they're discounting the cost of Apple's marketing (same reason Rolexes cost an arm and a leg, while still being a fine mechanical product –look at all those golf sponsorships), the one-stop-shop aspect for all matters warranty and support, and the interoperability of their product spectrum (also known as lock-in). And honestly, the design is good, better than anybody else, even when it's bad by its own standards. It's a company of perfectionists. Granted, there's problems with anything, but I give them the benefit of the doubt because they've given me a superior computing experience for 20 years, since the Mac IIsi. Now I have a macbook air and a Hackintosh I built myself because I want that power and good graphics card and expandability and the old Mac Pro doesn't exist any longer.

>>58046640
>apple doesn't have high-quality parts

I am not an Applefag and I have never owned an iMac or Macbook in my entire life, but what you were implying is a straight up lie. Their computers can take a fucking beating.

My cousin has owned some iMac model since 2011, and her stupid lil shit head children abused the fuck out of it like it was a toy; it still works to this day.

I have also seen older iMacs take a fucking beating when they were used in public schools.

>>58046816
Well a lot of their decisions differ from hobbyist builders. Instead of going for raw power, they look for efficiency and long term stability. Of course, they fuck up sometimes, especially with their AYYYYMD graphics.

Everything we've seen from them suggests they're trying to make computers as small, thin and energy efficient as possible. Total ubiquity. A computing surface as small or large as you want. Even the Mac Pro has shrunk (as has their attention to it).

But yeah, I've treated mine gently and never had a Mac go bad on me. I had a TiBook G4 with a bad board, but that was a hand-me-down from someone who had abused it before me.

>>58046528
I don't hate your pic related, OP. I want the 27" 5K iMac. Unfortunately I am a poorfag

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>>58046528
I don't think /g/ inherently 'hates' Apple products, I think two major factors influence our bias towards other brands, and that's the price of Apple products, and their fanbase.

The first issue being that the price they charge for their products when compared against a competitor's product either yields too high of a price for what you're getting with Apple, or a similar price but decreased performance/features.

The fanbase is the other issue, with rabid Apple fans blindly following their Apple bias and buying products just because it has a picture of a fruit on the back of it, and proclaiming to others that it's the best without evidence to backup their claims. Almost in the same manner that the Christians tried (try) to force their religion on others, and will not accept that something else may, in fact, be better.

I don't think /g/ hates Apple products just because they are Apple products, but more the practices of Apple when pricing their products, and the arrogance of the Apple fanbase.

>>58046816
>My cousin has owned some iMac model since 2011, and her stupid lil shit head children abused the fuck out of it like it was a toy; it still works to this day.
replace
>iMac model since 2011
with whatever you want you'll find a similar story..


They use whatever is cheaper so we end with crappy builds, just open yours and check the reference on resistor, chips, whatever, you'll freak out at how bad and cheap they are.

>>58046896
Fanboys of anything suck. Reject dogma. Use what works and is available to you.

because apple is shit

>>58046552
that's a cute fox

>>58046723
I believe a lot of people here dual boot. One for work, and the other for play.

>>58046762
>rich people buy apple
YOU are the retard.

>>58046976
You are correct, we dual boot linux and windows.

>>58047036
>>58046976
You are wrong, only a minority bothers with dual booting. Most just use Windows for convenience.

Because i can get a computer with equal performance for 60% of the price, and it will also have better cooling and won't throttle and shit itself.

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why is Yui so best?

>>58047049
Windows ia objectively the best for gaming, so if you can work on windows, you don't need to dual, but a lot of people here dual boots or at least uses an emulator to run the other.

>>58047097
If you are seriously implying that a lot of people use their computer to do any work, you are even more deluded than I thought.

>>58047071
Because she likes cocks.

Because Apple fans don't listen to reason. Apple is making fools of you but all you do is mental gymnastics to justify continuing to give your money to them.

>>58047113
Not everyone is a macfag facebook hipster, retard

>>58046586
This is basically confirmed by OP

>>58046528
I don't, not anymore at least. I still would prefer X1 carbon or some actual good HW but the rMBP company gave me is k.

>>58047138
>use windows to play games and shitpost on /g/
>hurr durr muh applel is a mactoddler facebook machine meme
KYS

>>58047119
she's the only straight one, yes

2000 dollars for a facebook machine is just too much.

>inb4 poorfag
I could buy one but it would be a waste of money I could save for something more useful.

>>58047173
What are you even trying to say? Windows runs anything work related, mac os does not

>>58046896
Secular humanists are the ones forcing their shit nowadays. And all those trendy eastern mysticism believing faggots.

>>58046662
who said anything about other companies not doing that?

>>58047173
I use linux. I built my pc for 700 dollars 2 years ago and it does everything that a currentmacbook pro can do and more for a third of the price. And it's not locked down like appleshit.

>>58047241
>locked down
You do know that macOS is basically XNU + FreeBSD userland, right? You do know I can actually recompile my kernel if I want and trace through drivers and kernel using dtrace?

I've tried a macbook, iphone and ipad. Within the 30 minutes of hell I had to use them, I was doing nothing but getting frustrated and more and more irritable. I don't like their interface, on any of them.

Furthermore, they really do have ridiculous pricing and because a bunch of idiots are fine with ponying up $700 for it, nowadays even more, now it's the 'standard' price for release flagship phones.

Sure they may've 'revolutionised' phones with the iphone but they've done nothing but fucking stupid shit ever since and brought creativity down to a rectangular brick.

Call me old school but, I still think flip phones were stylish. Minimalistic in the pocket, twice the length when you need it.

>>58046528
What anime is that op?

>>58047188
>he thinks $2000 is a lot of money
>having to save for "something better" means not being able to dish out $2000 on frivolous spending every now and then

you're poor

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>>58047332
>doesn't recognize the AOTYAY

because of threads like this
>>58041385

>>58047097
Consoles are objectively the best for gaming. With Windows you have a huge intrusive interface getting in the way, and Windows Updates fucking your shit up, driver issues, compatibility issues, spending hours searching tech forums for obscure error messages so you can just get a game to fucking work, and you can go on and on and on

Also, PC has no good games that ALSO justify a $1000+ gaming build. You can only play Crysis 2 for so long before it starts to get old.

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>>58046528
Apple makes products with a certain group of users in mind.
users who'd never want to open their machine. it should just werk.
users who'd rather buy something new than fix or upgrade something old.
users who value aesthetics over functionality. who needs ports anyway?

most supreme /g/entlemen here a simply too pragmatic to like apple. that's why thinkpads are worshipped so much.

>>58046528

Overpriced under powered and weird design choices on top of it. Like not making larger phones till steve died or laptops with a single port or phones without headphone jacks.

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>>58047332
>What anime is that op?
you're on 4chan and you can't recognize that anime? for real?

you're on the wrong website, fucko. time to go back to plebbit or some other normie shit site.

>>58047751
Don't forget users that don't value privacy as a right
>inb4 muh android
It's an applel thread, make one with android

>>58047443
there are plenty of games for PC and even whole genres that are arguably PC exclusive for most players.

you can technically play FPS games with 30 fps and a controller, yes but I'd rather burn my eyes and cut off my hands to be done with it.
won't even start on RTS, MMO's etc.

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>>58047751
>users who'd never want to open their machine. it should just werk.
what exactly do you gain from wasting hours fixing some overly-complicated shit?

Macs are for people who have actual work to do and not for NEETs who buy the cheapest shit made from cheapest barely-in-spec chink components that don't work right and fail often.

PCs are for people who don't value time. And the time is the only commodity which you cannot buy. You get old and then you die... quick.

>users who'd rather buy something new than fix or upgrade something old.
Old computers are a waste of time and money. Like old cars... you spend more money fixing them than buying something newer.

>users who value aesthetics over functionality. who needs ports anyway?
Ports are there it's just that they're the new ports and it will take time to adjust.

But think about the longevity of new Macs... almost everything will be USB-C in the next year or so so what will you do then if your computer doesn't have USB-C ports and lots of them? You'll be stuck using old shit.

>>58046528
they're largely afunctional, otherwise unserviceable. They're always doing "different shit" which isn't ever a good thing and they constantly REMOVE features then claim the removal is actually a feature

>>58047443
jesuis christ this is some /v/ level bait

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>>58046528
Because look at how gay that store looks. You don't want to be seen in such a gay store now, would you?

>>58046528
>kissanime

>>58047932
>what exactly do you gain from wasting hours fixing some overly-complicated shit?
the fact I don't have to blow a fuck ton of money for apple to "fix" it by throwing it away, giving me a refurb replacement then wipe all my data because they can't do simple data recovery.

>macs are for people who want to work
work on finding what dongle to plug in because their shits all wack

>PC's are for people who want to waste time
and you're gonna die doing simple shit right?

>old cars are a waste of time and money
Busrider detected, you've never worked on a car let alone changed your own oil.

>take time to adjust
thats what they said about thunderbolt 4 years ago and still nothing uses it

What they should have done was put in legacy and new ports so at least all my functional things still work with the computer and shit and not having to buy a 40 dollar dongle for every port because none of them work with anything

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>>58046552

>>58046528
I don't and so many of the people who do have the most retarded reasons.

I don't hate Apple. Their shit is overpriced, but I don't buy them so it doesn't affect me.
The Apple fanboys is what i truly hate

I don't own a mac because I want my USB to work while using wifi

>>58046528
subpar product for a premium price.

that's not to say that i don't respect their business model. they used to made their own proprietary parts but when they noticed that isn't working out too well they just started using the same mass produced shit as all other computer manufacturers while marketing themselves as a status symbol and a premium brand. better yet, they advertise themselves as retard friendly so all the boomers with too much money buy their shit up and when it inevitably breaks they come back to the store to fix it/buy something new.

only price performance shit is imac 5k. because 5k monitors themselves are way more expensive than imac 5k itself.

They're fairly locked down. You don't get the option to get a more powerful system with less "extras" like a really high res screen. There's a lot of non-upgradeable crap and they've been actively doing weird things after jobs died.

I mean, they have a really good operating system. They do need to work on their hardware a little better.

>>58048184
the 5k monitor doesn't support HDR 10-bit its actually not that great for an IPS

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>>58047932
>PCs are for people who don't value time. And the time is the only commodity which you cannot buy.
there are people out there (I feel like I shouldn't have to tell you this on a technology board) who enjoy spending their time like this.
this whole "GOTTA BE PRODUCTIVE" stuff is always so tiring to hear. this is our hobby. we like doing this. it's not about producing as many lines of code per lifetime as we possibly can. how much work could you have done instead of collecting your anime reaction pics? how much instead of posting in this thread that will lead nowhere? your time is running out, Anon. the clock is ticking. better get back to work.

>almost everything will be USB-C in the next year
this is simply not true and you know it.

>>58047932
Buyers remorse is strong.

>>58046647
back in undergrad i always went to the mac computer lab because it was almost always empty/near empty. there were 4 or 5 PC computer labs and they always had more people than the mac lab. the mac lab also had the fewest number of classes using it. it was pretty much only booked when all the other computer labs were taken.

or in other words, normal people don't like to use macs. i'm sure they are just fine as facebook machines and status symbols, though.

Much as I hate gaymen, I can imagine that some people dislike OSX because it's not exactly a good system for games (even linux is getting better). Sure you're meant to work with these machines, but if you're gonna pay that much you may as well get the option.

>>58046762
you're delusional if you think rich people buy apple. apple is for lower middle class and below. why the fuck do you think they offer financing on everything they sell?

>>58046647
I've used Apple products. I require maximum connectivity options, maximum ease of servicing and upgrade, replaceable batteries, quality docking stations, and abundance of hardware and application choice.

All Apple has going for it is the OS, but if you actually find an OS difficult to work with I suggest suicide. Real computer users can switch between OS effortlessly without giving a shit. I don't add OS X to my OS collection because Linux and Windows meet all my application requirements.

I don't give a shit what my computers look like because I'm not gay. I'm either useing them or not looking at them. Notebook weight doesn't matter because I'm 6'2"/200 and not feeble.

Apple has nice displays, but I prefer much larger displays than mere notebooks offer so I use desktops at home. I don't live in a shoebox so one extra cubic foot for a large desktop case doesn't bother me.

Apple sells LG displays now because they cannot produce a superior monitor.

Because I avoided the Apple ecosystem I'm not among the butthurt "pro" users who are weeping bitter tears because Apple doesn't need them any more. I almost feel sorry for them, because userfags can't Hackintosh. If I wanted their OS I'd have fun Hackintoshing, but it does nothing Windows and Linux don't.

I have plenty of cash for computers. If an Apple product would turn me a profit I'd buy one today. They don't so I don't. I'd fucking run Temple OS if it served me. It doesn't so I don't.

>>58046662
Dell seems to be the exception lately, their fucking XPS series laptops are fucking amazing and their warranty service is great, they come to your house the next day to fix anything no questions asked (within reason of course). Prices are great too!
If you have a chat with the customer support staff at the online store, they usually hand out 10-20% OFF coupon codes for select Dell models.

I'm extremely happy with my Dell XPS 13 with i7-7500U, the bezels are fucking amazing and the battery life is unbelievable at 22 hours (15-19 hours real use).

>>58046528
>Why does /g/ hate Apple products?
It's simple really: A good chunk of the people on /g/ are from /v/ and apple makes absolutely nothing aimed at the pee-cee gayy-murr market and instead focuses on people who don't need cutting edge real time graphics performance or the need to be able to replace/upgrade every piece in their machine. Then there's also the FOSS tards who hate Apple because despite a lot of the software Apple puts out is FOSS, the OS isn't completely FOSS.

In my opinion Apple is just fine and their products obviously aren't meant for everyone no matter how hard some autists like to complain about how Apple not making anything that fits their requirements perfectly means they're crap. It's just sad how many people fail to understand this simple fact and simply can't comprehend that not every company tries to cater to people like them. The fact that most of what Apple makes isn't for me doesn't mean that those products are crap any more than women's hygiene products not being for me means they're crap as well.

>>58047932
>Macs are for people who have actual work to do

I must be hallucinating the huge Windows CAD/CAM userbase.

If PCs or anything about computers is hard for you, you're a dumbass. A new Apple is a vendor-locked PC you mong. That's why Hackintoshing works.

> Like old cars... you spend more money fixing them than buying something newer.

I don't. You should stay away from cars, too. No shame in you being helpless but don't project. Fixing nearly everything I own paid off delightfully and I'm debt-free because of it. I get immediate and skilled vehicle, computer, and home repair service as needed or wanted. Because I'm skilled I'm also a highly informed consumer. Knowledge is power and most of it's free for the taking.

>almost everything will be USB-C in the next year or so so what will you do then if your computer doesn't have USB-C ports and lots of them? You'll be stuck using old shit.

They make cards for where that matters. What will I need "lots" of USB-C ports for with the exception of my desktops when I feel like changing peripherals? My printers are networked. My keyboards and mice don't require USB-C. I have adequate internal storage in all my computers so I've no need for an external USB-C drive enclosure. If I require more storage I'll build a home server so my entire network (two houses, two shops) can share my goat porn collection.

>>58047241
>Comparing a desktop to a laptop

>>58046528
Apple has nothing to do with technology

you don't browse >>>/o/ if you just buy a car and never do anything with it
you don't browse >>>/fa/ if you don't care what clothes you wear
you don't browse >>>/lit/ if you don't read books
you don't browse >>>/mu/ if you don't listen to music
you don't browse >>>/g/ if you don't fiddle with tech, and that's ultimately the case if you buy locked down Apple stuff you can't modify in any way

the only reason to still browse these boards is to shitpost
and that's exactly what every apple user is doing on /g/

Apple products are more >>>/fa/ than >>>/g/

>>58046528
We don't we love them. We hate the new ones, because they FUCKING SUCK.

>>58048575
Nice copypasta there Timmy...

Seriously thou, Apple is obviously not going for the hardware tinkerer market as it's pretty small compared to the market as a whole. However ignoring the software side of the tech sector, which Apple is going for pretty heavily for, is completely retarded.

Now that you've been filled in, you can head back to >>>/v/ Timmy.

>>58048575
You do realize you can run both MacOS, Linux and Windows on Apple computers, right?

>>58048619
You're fucking retarded, a Dell XPS 13 will do that yet costs 1/3 the price.

>>58048619
kind of defeats the purpose of using apple in the first place

>>58048631
>purpose of using apple
Not him, but enlighten me. What's "the purpose of using apple"?

>>58048629
>A Dell XPS 13 will run MacOS

Okay there

>>58048631
>What is multibooting

>>58048646
Its kind of estranged to buy an apple product to not use their software just to run windows when you could have just run literally any other computer. The computer itself is not particularly fantastic for games even on its own with windows

>>58048677
>Buying an Apple computer
>To play games
/v/ pls go

>>58048528
My god what a reasonable response, anon

>>58048692
or use any other windows application.

Ironic how Apple "just works" doesn't actually work

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>>58048324
All things considered, it's for specific things. It's not about what it can do specifically, as Linux and Windows cover everything that you would -need- (rather than what you would probably want or find convenient).

Lemme give you an example. I dislike most apple products, and I only use hackintosh, I don't like most of their hardware. Except their trackpads. They know exactly how a fucking trackpad is supposed to work, knowing there's no mouse around.

Now, I bought one of these little fuckers. Nowadays you can buy one used for pretty cheap and the 1st gen at least feels sturdy as it needs to be. Why would I use this thing on a desktop? I just wanted to experiment with it and see if it was really that good.

So, it works as described, no troubles, fairly fast to work with and seems to recognize gestures really well. Anyways, the thing is I'm told by someone to install some program, BTT, and holy fuckles. I can do 30 fucking different things with it alone. I my mouse for the accuracy, but this for everything else literally. I can do a lot of shit fast with just one hand. And all of this I can do -only- in OSX. Linux recognizes it well, but it does the average default gestures, it's definitely not as usable. And Windows just doesn't like this thing at all.

Now, do I need to use Linux or Windows? Sure, there are a few things there that I have to work with. But most of the time I'd rather work fast with this thing right here.

>>58048629
Alright, I'll get it then.

I found the "yo dawg we put an apple into your apple" meme stupid anyway

>>58048677
Oh, in that regards. I misunderstood what you meant. But yeah, as >>58048652 said, many people install multiple OSes.

Personally I run macOS on my laptop and Ubuntu on my workstation at work. It always amazes me how /g/ calls macOS "locked down", which to me sounds like they are unaware of Apple's software stack and contribution to various free software projects.

>>58048616
>copypasta
k
>Now that you've been filled in, you can head back to >>>/v/ Timmy.
nice meme you dip

Read my post again and understand it first, come back to me after

>>58048697
What other non-niche applications that don't have a Windows version are there? Most things other than games can easily be run in a VM, which sort of eliminates the issue of applications so niche the only version is a Windows one.

>>58048719
There really isn't much of a point to your post... It's mostly just puerile "lol macusers are all gay!!1" (as if calling someone gay as an attempt at an insult didn't do anything except show you're on the level of a 9-year-old) and then just ignoring the software development side of tech.

The fact that you ignore this pretty clearly shows that your #1 use for a computer obviously is to play games, not anything productive.

>>58048702
>>58048629
It's fucking soldered RAM, I redact my post and will not buy that piece of shit.

it's funny how this was a troll thread to begin with
people replied
apple faggots actually came to the rescue
and their whole argumentation is a fucking circle and they still think they have valid points
no one in the tech sector takes apple seriously, they make no inventions, they create fashion devices

good riddance, faggots

>>58048789
Stop spouting gay nonsense, faggot

>>58048794
You didn't know that? Next you're probably going to be equally surprised about how the screen brightness controls are tied to an auto brightness system you have literally no manual control over.

Apple seems to be abandoning their professional users and it's really bothered me as a former apple fan boy.

I have a macpro with dual xeon 5570s, 32 gb of RAM, and a flashed 970 but because it's a 4,1 model I can't officially get the newest OS? Meanwhile some shitty dualcore macbook pro with 2gb of RAM is allowed to get the update? What the hell Apple?

I know I can fool the software into thinking I have a 5,1 but if there are compatibility issues with professional software down the line I'm hosed. This computer is more powerful than most consumer stuff out there but I might potentially be permanently stuck behind because they want us to go out and buy a new one rather than upgrade these.

Hell, for a while they removed RAID support and then added it back only after a bunch of people got mad. Why would you remove features? Get it together Apple.

I swear I'm about to go full freetard someday now.

>>58048789
no I never called anyone gay or insulted anyone plese quote that part so I may re-read it again
and what software development? they create some locked down OS and apps for their devices
what fucking software? pleas epoint me in a direction
and what >>58048816 said

>>58048816
That's real nice Timmy... Isn't it past your bed time yet? Your mother isn't going to be happy if she finds up you're up past your bedtime.

>>58048857
that wasn't even me you premature shitposter

>>58048831
Impressive what's possible with customers nowadays.

>>58048857
What would you know about women you faggot?

>>58048842
Funny enough, every single Intel Macbook is fully supported on Windows 10 and Linux.
You heard loud and clear when Apple said "it's sad that people are still using 5 year old computers".

>>58048854
The fact that you seem to have mixed up OSX and iOS in terms of openness really goes to show you're basically not really into tech deeper than some surface level stuff.

Seeing how this is all new to someone who doesn't know how to program their way out of a paper bag: OSX is someplace between Windows and Linux in terms of openness for software developers and you really don't have to use any Apple software or the App Store to make software on OSX.

>>58048944
please, we need more wild implications

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>>58046552

>>58048972
The fact that you ignored the software side and seem to think that OSX is about as locked down as iOS goes to show that your your original post was wrong.

Tech is far from just running the latest games on the latest GPUs with the latest drivers...

>>58049007
keep up the implications

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>>58048061
>the fact I don't have to blow a fuck ton of money for apple to "fix" it by throwing it away, giving me a refurb replacement then wipe all my data because they can't do simple data recovery.

it's called backup you fucking retard. And it;s not like PC SSDs are immune to catastrophic failure either. It's just the nature of SSDs and has nothing to do with Macs exclusively. BACK UP YOUR SHIT!

>work on finding what dongle to plug in because their shits all wack
Just plug the fucking cable. what's so hard about that? That's like complaining about trying to find the proper port.

You've now reached the top of the absurdity of retarded compalints about Macs. You've basically run out of arguments and now you complain about finding the proper cable/port.

TOP KEK!

>Busrider detected, you've never worked on a car let alone changed your own oil.
I have my own car, TYVM. 2012 BMW M2. Still works great.

>thats what they said about thunderbolt 4 years ago and still nothing uses it
It's in USB-C spec. High-end monitors user them. Even my Synology uses it. beats the shit out of USB 3.

>>58048230
>there are people out there (I feel like I shouldn't have to tell you this on a technology board) who enjoy spending their time like this.
I enjoy spending time programming and getting paid for it. I don't enjoy troubleshooting chikshit. I didn't spend 4 years at Uni so I can hunt drivers. That's a job for IT plebs from community college.

>>58047189
Out of interest, what do you need to run on windows that can't be run on a Mac?

>>58048061
>>58049189
>>58047932
>>58048230
Shut the hell up you whiny twats. Get a fucking life for Christ's sake.

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>>58048554
>I must be hallucinating the huge Windows CAD/CAM userbase.
Oh wow. You found one area where Windows still has hold! But I also see that Fusion 360 userbase is growing exponentially and will eclipse Solidworks in a year. Fusion360 runs on a Mac natively.

>If PCs or anything about computers is hard for you, you're a dumbass. A new Apple is a vendor-locked PC you mong. That's why Hackintoshing works.
Everything's vendor locked at some level because of hardware.

Rest of your post is just unreadable drivel and rants.

>>58049352
Shut the fuck up

>>58046528
we secretly don't, we just can't afford Apple's bullshit pricing.

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>>58049352
Not even Apple uses Appleshit.

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>>58049362
>Shut the fuck up
Well, you've run out of arguments I see. I guess I've won.

>>58049528
Apple can't make everything themselves. They use tons and tons of 3rd party software. It's called a software ecosystem and Mac has a strong one. All the best apps are on macOS these days.

That's why Silicon Valley runs on MBPs. Everyone at Google, FB, Twitter, etc etc uses MBPs.

>>58049727
>t. mactoddler

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How can you hate the only company that puts 16:10 panels into their laptops?

And the only company that makes laptops with trackpads that don't suck?

>>58050201
>what is a calculator
>what is a mouse

Not my problem if you cannot into relativity theory.

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>>58050267
>Not using tap to click
Also, I've spilled stuff and dropped my old MBP so I know they're not specially sensitive to water nor do they get dents that easily. The amount of water you got on your machine, if it is your machine and not a copypasta, would kill any other non-toughbook laptop and the force that dented it would leave an even bigger mark on a machine with a plastic case.

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>>58050354
>t. mactoddler

>>58050383
>I have no argument so I'm just going to act like a 9-year-old
I specifically mentioned the Panasonic Toughbook because the actually durable thinpads have been out of production since the days of Core 2 Duos. The ones with cirklet keys they've been making for the last few years are just as sensitive to moisture as the MBP was they have their keyboads and upper cases built the exact same way as macbooks.

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>>58050354
>the force that dented it would leave an even bigger mark on a machine with a plastic case.

How many rupees per post does Apple pay you Sukhdeep?

>>58050556
>I have no real argument so I'm just going to insult you again
That's real nice lil timmy, but the problem with that is that the point at which metal frame machines like macbooks dent is the same point where plastic like the stuff used in your 2006 thinkpad cracks.

It's pretty simple really... When plastic flexes metal is unharmed and when metal dents plastic cracks. MBPs are much like old thinkpads known to be able to take quite a lot of physical punishment and still remain completely functional in spite of the cosmetic damage.

They're not ripe yet.

>>58050668
>>When plastic flexes metal is unharmed and when metal dents plastic cracks.

>mactoddler tier mental gymnastics

i love OSX but apple products can suck my cock

i had a 2012 macbook pro that worked fucking amazingly until the gpu blew up and it wouldnt even display picture. of course apple refused to repair it even though their was a recall for the same issue (the deadline had passed but that shouldnt matter -_-)

if i could use OSX on any system without having weird problems like all the hackintoshes do, i would be using it for everything

>>58046528
I'll tell ya OP:
/g/ hates most anything it didn't build itself or is over popularized. Just like /mu/ they don't like people knowing about it. I about guarantee that if Ubuntu, Mint, Gentoo, Fedora, or any other Unix OS that /g/ likes became normie popular, they would loose their shit and jump on another bandwagon of hate. That's /g/

/g/ doesn't trust "closed source" because they aren't "allowed" to get into the coding. PFFT, like that stopped this neckbeards before. Threads about Hackintosh, DDOSing, cracked(/ing) programs and coding; /g/ if you're so smart, you don't care what people buy like this OS.

also it's like 1200 but a basic computer which honestly, I understand, I GOOD computer should cost something nice. I'm not saying an arm and a leg but shit, these computers are WAY more expensive than they should be. My step brother built a computer for 500 from newegg.

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>>58046528
>streaming
>not hiding your powerlevel

I would say probably 95% or more of these haters never used one. They have little idea of what they are talking about.

>>58051034
this. most are hipsters with their organic chai latte.
they don't like things they can't get... They could if they wanted too

>>58050862
>Thinking that plastic is indestructible because it can flex
Just no... We're not talking about a bouncy ball or silly putty here, we're talking about a plastic shell over a metal frame. Drop it on the ground and it will crack regardless of how you think it won't. The underlying metal frame will be intact, but the plastic on your thinkpad will crack if you drop it on the ground. When you drop a macbook the same way it'll dent, but the actual damage will be cosmetic just like the damage on the thinkpad.

I've seen both Macbooks and old Thinpads dropped on the floor and they both receive the cosmetic damage. The only difference is the type.

>>58051092
>I've seen both Macbooks and old Thinpads dropped on the floor and they both receive the cosmetic damage. The only difference is the type.

This.

A Thinkpad will crack, snap, break, and chip, though the internals will likely survive due to the magnesium cage. The macbook will crumple like a soda can since that's what it's made of and lose all your data.

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>>58051092
thinkpads are military spec plastic wrapped around a magnesium roll cage, they're not cracking even if you throw them at the ground

http://www.lenovo.com/us/en/thisisthinkpad/milspec.html

macbooks don't have a rollcage. the hard drive (on models that still have hard drives) are literally held by pressure between two foam pieces with 2 screws each. if you drop a macbook with a physical drive, you will lose your data and probably damage much more, that's just a fact.

>>58050267
I hate Apple, but this pic gave me goosebumps. What an edgelord.

>>58050938
Well that's odd because the GPU replacement program is active until 31.12.2016 or 4 years after purchase (whichever is later).

Here's a link to Apple's official page on the subject if you don't believe me:
https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro-videoissues/
>The program covers affected MacBook Pro models until December 31, 2016 or four years from its original date of sale, whichever provides longer coverage for you.

I had the GPU in my 2011 machine blow up around new year 2014-2015 and they reimbursed me without a hitch as soon as I contacted them after the program had started. Funny part is that my insurance company had already reimbursed me for it minus a deductible so I ended up earning a good chunk of change on the whole affair.

>>58051137
>The macbook will crumple like a soda can since that's what it's made of and lose all your data.
My experience says exactly the opposite, it'll look bad, but the cases have big enough tolerances that the actual internals will be fine and you won't lose any data. You can even continue using the things if you don't mind the cosmetic damage (which is what I did while I dropped mine).

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>>58051152

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>>58046528
Macfag here. A lot of people buy top spec'ed Macs for thousands of dollars just to post on Facebook. Literally no other reason besides being trendy and fashionable.

I'll admit that having a /fa/ laptop is kinda nice. But the big selling point for me is pic related. Being able to access both graphics and UNIX tools natively without dual booting is amazing. Some of the Mac versions also have had more UI/UX work put into them (because we are talking about a fashion product), which is also a huge selling point.

>>58051275
that isnt a crack nigga

is that a t400 or a t410?

>>58051299
That is a blatant crack.
And that is obviously an x series.

>>58051152
>military spec plastic
That's just a meme the same way Apple's "aircraft grade" aluminium is. In an impact that isn't massive (as in stuff that'll break a thinkpad as well) the HDD is going to get knocked around just as much as in a thinkpad.

The only way the HDD can work it's way lose is if the bottom panel, which is held in place by 10 (IIRC) screws, is removed pre-impact or somehow comes off in the impact. The upper bracket for the HDD really cannot come off unless the bottom panel is off first.

i have personally taken apart macbooks and the cords between the hd and mobo are garbage, those will be the first things to tear if you drop it from any relevant distance

so ya youll lose your cache'd data but your hard drive will likely be safe

thinkpads dont have cords, they have those inserts that the hard drive is pushed into. those wont break

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>>58051152

false sense of quality, they lack hardware compared to any other brand.

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>>58051275
>t. mactoddler

I basically scammed my dad by buying his 2013 macbook pro for 300$.

He was going to sell it through gazelle and buy an ipad pro for some fucking reason. he goes through apple shit so quickly. I don't even want to know how much he's paying.

I figured I've never owned a mac before so I'll take it for much cheaper than anything you can find online. I think it was going for like 700$ used when I checked.

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>>58046552
this, only jelly poorfags bitch about apple being bad

Macbooks are worth buying simply because Apple are pretty much the only company with some sense to not use 16:9 on laptops, them and Microsoft who use 3:2. The 2016 Macbooks are overpriced, though.

Who decided that 16:9 should be standard on laptops, a format that's cramped for space to begin with?

>>58046552
delet this, I can't handle the truth

>>58051469
Notice how it's still working though

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>>58051469
>>58051411
zzzzZZzzZzZZZZzzzzz

>>58047332
>>58047398
>>58047806
I can't find it either, despite GISing the images. Not to worry. I can just watch any other anime featuring high school age girls and get the same experience, as they are all exactly the fucking same.

>>58051721
do people not understand how falls work....

once it reaches terminal velocity, it's the same if it's 50 feet or 10 billion feet..................

and with ssds/flash memory i think most people expect them to atleast "turn on"

>>58051879
It's yuru yuri gayboi

>>58046528
I like them, I mean, I like the operating system. The hardware is a very bad deal for the price. But I would like them a lot more if they had video games.

>>58046628
its only good if you like it otherwise its complete vomit.

>>58046528

I hate the early 2000's sterile sci-fi aesthetics.
Always thought it looked like a crossbreed between kindergartner/mental ward equipment, i.e. designed so that its users can't hurt themselves or others with it, and no other aesthetic consideration at all.

Also the whole status symbol, price/performance and form over function things, I guess.