/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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First for X230

T460 or T460s?

I'd get a T450s but they cost as much as a T460/s.

Worth waiting for T470/s or will they just get progressively worse?

Hi anons I asked you before but I have got one more question: I have only integrated graphics in my T420 so should I do anything special to get egpu working? (like downgrading BIOS, I use 1.48) and can you post your specs and some information about game (how they run or something like this)

>>57998169
>trackpoint isn't on her crotch
ONE FUCKIN GJOB

I work as a computer technician for a small refurbishing company. We only work with business laptops and computers.

Lenovo Thinkpads are incredible to work with, very nicely built and can stand the test of time (We still have working T41's, back when they were IBM and not Lenovo.)

I have a T430 for myself with a 250 GB SSD. Thing runs like a dream still.

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>>57998175
If you care size T460s is much nicer than plain T460.

You can still access M.2, single DIMM slot, mini PCIe and batteries if you remove the T460s back cover.

I bought this for 650$
>Samsung NT900X3Q
>i5-5200u
>8GB RAM
>3200*1800 QHD display
you lads think this is a good purchase?

im a motion designer and need a lot of power, i had a mac but it gave up on me in a very rude way and i feel betrayed.

can a thinkpad replace a macbook pro?

>Get T420 for my sister for 149 bucks
>It came with the 1600x900 monitor and 9 cell battery
>Also it is fucking mint
Fucking bullshit. I got mine for 189 and it has the crappy resolution one. It also has scratches and a 6 cell battery.

>>57998158
Should I reapply my thermal paste?
would it make my x201 run cooler?

Redpill me on the x130e
Why is it so memed for a netbook?

>>57998802
Yes/Yes

You'll have to take the motherboard out but it's well worth it. Especially if it's still running with original paste.

>>57998716
Swap them. I doubt she will notice.

>>57999151
sound's risky

>>57998228
>plug in GPU
>install drivers
>play your stupid gaymes
Where's the difficulty?

>>57999607
It's about compatibility on some devices with specific specification. So if someone have this product and have got any problem with it he can help other people with it.

I'm in Canada and I'm looking for a new laptop for college, it will be used exclusively for hammering out lots and lots of essays and reports, mainly Politics and Economics type stuff, so multiple Office Word files, Excel files and PowerPoint, plus 2-3 Chrome windows with lots of tabs.

My budget is about $1500 CAD, or $1150 USD ish.

I am looking for a 15.6 screen, 1080p, and a full size keyboard with the numeric keypad would be nice, but it is not explicitly required.

I have looked into the Lenovo Thinkpad T460/S/P/560, and the Ideapad 700's. I was wondering if any of these would be fine, and what sort of specs should I be aiming for?

I would prefer something with an i5, and 8gb of RAM at minimum, don't have a need for dedicated graphics, so something thin and light is probably possible.

Wanted to know which of the Lenovo's you guys would recommend for my uses.

>>58000227
>he wants to waste 1500 shekels to write essays and reports
why reddit is so retarded?

>>57998380
Thanks.

>>57999160
Its too late for that pham.

>>58000227
Dude just get a t420/x220
Fucking retard.

>>58000589
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

>>57998802
i did that recently, is there an approved /g way of doing it ?
i also bent a little the heatpipe arm for the quadro, i think it helped and now makes better contact.

Need help here, I saved up around 700 euros for a Thinkpad and I originally wanted to buy a used t450 or smth, but my parents veto-ed my purchase because "you can't trust used electroncis" so I am stuck to buying a new one . What are my options, I live in Serbia(laptops are 2x the price in stores since there are no official lenovo suppliers) and I have some family in Swiss that is coming for the holidays after New Year. Can I get a decent laptop for 700e ?

T43 caveman here, is there any way to force my system to utilize more than 2GB of RAM because i'm being offered a crapload of DDR2 sticks for peanuts

What Laptop are u can advice me? It should run lol with about 60 fps but also comfy to work and not so expensive

>>58000901
Forgot to add : I am currently studying computer sciences and engineering => lots of programming/numerical simulations/Matlab ...

>>58000227
mng and you want to study Politics and Economics
do you want to take the laptop to school ? if yes dont take a 15.6 for bulshit like that get a smaler one like mentioned x220/T430 or similiar and get a desktop for hostel or wherever you gona stay the 15,6 laptops are big and heavy(if you buy a random one) for evri day cary, or get a dock station

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HAPPENING FOLKS!!!!

TRUMP MAKING IBM GREAT AGAIN

MIBMGA!!!

HES BRINGING BACK THE OLD KEYBOARD LAYOUT FOR THE NEW THINKPADS!!!

PRAISE THE GOD EMPEROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>58000901
Why can't you tell your parents to go fuck themselves and spend your money the way you want to? Are they unaware of your powerlevel or does it not exist?

>>58001288
>announcing things that would have happened anyway under the political umbrella
please tell me you're not delusional enough to actually believe this was a decision IBM made after a political influence

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jesus /tpg/ i got a really terrible dream
i'm using stock T420 and waiting for parts(caddy cpu) for 2 week 10 minutes ago i dreamed about received 2720 CPU From taxi and replace, but forgot how to reassemble
then i wake up and listend MY T420's beep
and nothing happened and turnd T420 and shitposting on here

fuck when my parts will come? am i chinked?

Hey. I m thinking about getting x230 and want to use egpu occasionally, which slot is better, expressport or mpcie ?and which gpu should I get, if I doesnt want overkill for such a setup.
Thanks

>>57998158
how much would it cost to build a t601IF in the uk?

>>58001412
i'm also waiting on my HDD caddy, I think I bought it from the same ebay shop you bought yours from...
20th is the last day it's expected to arrive so I wake up every day thinking it'll come but it hasn't yet ;;

>>58001696
i bought it aliexpress as guest my T420 is really crappy and slow will my t420 be decent in future..

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>>58001815
i'm using a stock one and it's silky smooth although I still can't figure out how to get rid of screen tearing
I installed a bit of bloat on it and it's still smooth but when I get an ssd i'm gonna wipe it and just put i3 and arch on it and leave it

>>58001599
expresscard will be easier to swap and there's been talk about recent nvidia drivers not playing well with mpcie (express isn't affected)

cards like the 750/950/1050 seem to be a good balance between price and enough power that's not totally wasted by bandwidth limitations. a slot-powered card will keep things a little more tidy on the desk and your psu can be smaller. i use a dell da-2 psu, which is overkill for my 750ti, but i trust the 8-pin more than the standard barrel connector, and it looks a lot nicer than an atx psu

i'd like to see the price for the low profile msi 1050ti when it's readily available. one of those paired with an exp gdc beast v8 would be a damn small egpu setup, almost portable!

>>58001856
i think that's really light OS
I'm using cuckdow and feel like dying

>>58001381
dont be stupid. ibm would never bring the old keyboard back if trump wasn't elected. thats just a fact. winners win.

>>58001957
what are you blabbing about?

Why is the T420 recommended over the T430? Don't tell me it's just because of the keyboard.

Is it a good idea to replace my desktop gaming pc (dont really play games anymore) for a specced out T430 with dock and egpu (in case i want to play games in the future)?
Has anyone else sold their desktop and bought a laptop instead?

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>>58001968
Thinkpad elitist consider T430 to be a piece of shit because of the keyboard simple as that, I just got a T430 for 200 bucks and am really happy with it.

>>58001964

trump convincing ibm to invest 1billion in new older style keypads
>>58001381

>>58001914
Thanks Anon (t420 here) where you keep your GPU? (I can't found any good solution for this problem)

>>58001964

wrong post
>>58001288

>>58001927
why do you need windows?

>>58001998
Source?
IBM is no longer a hardware company besides specialized items. It stopped making general enterprise hardware years ago

>>58001815
You probably would've benefited more from adding an SSD than upgrading to a quad core if your system was feeling sluggish overall. Outside of highly demanding multithreaded workloads, there shouldn't be anything that really taxes a dual core i5. But a spinning rust drive can make even the simplest tasks take ages.

>>58001914
and whatabout those two options while using it with internal display ? i want that little beast for occasional lan parties, and if id have to take monitor, i can already take whole desktop

but thanks, really appreciated your answer

>>58002016
because people in this country don't know how to use linux and so do i
and most program that i use run in to windows..

>>58002048
i refuse to believe south koreans don't know how to use linux

>>58002046
>X230
>EXP GDC Beast v8 ExpressCard
>GTX 750 Ti
>Ubuntu 16.04

Using the internal display with eGPU results in massive tearing and somewhat lower performance. I've read that cutting edge drivers and X.org reduce tearing but haven't tried it. Might work better with Windows.

You might get away with borrowing some of your friends' second display.

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god damn, I'm still kicking myself.
Saw an X220 for 40$ yesterday with decent specs too i5 3rd gen and so on. It was up for no less than 15 minutes... I think I'm gonna write a script to alert me if this happens again... :(

>>58002001
i spent like 20 minutes fucking with the positioning of everything on my desk before i was happy. the da-2 psu helped a lot because its got a nice long wire to the brick, which stays on the floor. gpu is on the desk behind monitor and thinkpad. the PE4C v3 has a very short and thick cable that's soldered on, so a lot of my positioning was to keep tension off it. the exp gdc cable is a few inches longer and a lot more flexible, so it should be a lot easier to work with. there's been some discussion over which adapter has more reliable data transfer based on the quality of their cable connections, but that's beyond my knowledge.

>>58002046
nvidia cards and their optimus feature are the way to go if you want to use the internal screen. of course there's a dip in performance vs using an external screen off the gpu itself. my experience with the 750ti and overwatch with high gfx settings: internal screen, 40ish fps, so i locked it to 30. external screen, 60 fps

>>58000901
Get a T450 or any older gen Thinkpad and tell em it's new.

Do you guys think that the retro thinkpads will actually be revealed on the 25th anniversary?

>>58002430
>>58002380

so internal display with egpu is no-go.

then I may end up with portable screen, i have some old 14" msi laptop with fryed mobo somewhere at home. I will buy controller for that display, and hopefully i can power that screen with psu used for egpu.

The whole point is to pack whole lan equipment in one backpack. So I can take taxi.

>>58002588
no
pr stunt


even if they do they will be
>expensive
>not widely adopted by enterprise therefore obscure in user community

What is the most one should pay for a X230i?

Any specific things I should check for?

There's one currently for 200$ but I think I can get it down to 150$ (with an Ultra Dock 3)

Would this be a good deal?

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got this one and am also bidding on a t61 tablet version + a dock

how'd I do? I already have a desktop and needed something to hack on in class

>>58002975
>t61 tablet
x61*

hey guys, bought a chromebook for school with a celeron processor and needless to say its shit even with Chrome OS. Got it for 100 freedom bucks which honestly feels like a waste since I', sure you can get a cheaper thinkpad, elitebook, or latitude with vastly superior specs for cheaper. Anything you guys recommend? My only experience with Thinkpad is a T420 which to be honest I didn't really like. It was too big and the trackpad was absolute shit

>lol using the trackpad

Yeah I get it, but come on if I'm trying to find the most practical form factor I'd like to at least not have to carry a mouse around. Anything smaller than a 420 with a decent trackpad?

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>>58002663
blis helpe me frens

>>58002975
gonna build a frankenpad?

>>58003329
that's one idea I have, yeah

>>58003436
good luck building one in 2016
parts are expensive and the individual laptops are hard to find like a flexview t60p and a 4:3 t61

>>58001987
Bump for this

>>58003537
yeahhh I noticed when trying to buy the machines themselves
but I'm gonna try scrounging around town for parts first, there's a decent local community

>>58003676
could always try thinkpad forums as well

>>57998158
x250 in yurop for 500 murribucks that looks like new with fhd ips screen, 256gb ssd 8gb ram and a laptop bag werth?

>>57998460
Lenovo makes the W and P workstation series
Even the low end p50 would blow away a macbook pro
For about 3 grand you can get a machine with decent desktop workstation tier specs.

>>58003806
for what purpose

>>58003850
I know what I need it for breh. I'm an EE student. Mainly want that sweet sweet FHD screen. I'm merely asking whether that price is more or less right. Though it might be the one without internal 3 cell battery, and then it'd suck because only external 3 cell and I wouldn't get it anyways : ^)

Well, I'mma see. If this one doesn't do it, I'll get a x270 or t470 as soon as projektneptun offers them. I have nuff muneh anyways : ^) just found that one randomly

x240 vs t430? They are rougly the same price, t430 comes with an ssd and 4Gb of ram, x240 with $gb of ram and a spinny, and the screen is the HD one. x240 is tempting because it's super light, and I'll be taking the computer to university everyday. Is the i5 in the x240 enough for normal usage (writing code, web browsing, watching muh anime)?

Anyone know how to clear cosmetic scratches off the rubber lid of old ibm thinkpads?

>>58002404
x220 never came with a 3rd gen i5...

>>58002663
avoid the x230i they come with the lowest end cpus.

What do you guys think of slice batteries for the x220? I'm thinking of getting one but I wanted to know if they are a meme.

>>58004683
thank you. <3

>>58000923
RAM limitations are typically based on the chipset and CPU. You might be able to change the CPU to support more RAM, but the chipset has to support it.

84rd for t430s best top

>>58001412
>From taxi and replace, but forgot how to reassemble

Download the hardware maintenance manual you mong.

friend is upgrading to a T460, and hes offering me his T420s for about 115USD.

No ssd, no ultrabay battery, he claims 2 hour battery life

Is it worth it for that price?
From what Ive googled I can still upgrade to a SSD but not a 9cell battery since the battery is in the front of the laptop.

I currently have an xps13, but i feel like this is still a solid deal...thoughts?

I was looking for a cheap Laptop so į could install Linux and work with web development. Any comments? Its still not too late to cancel the purchase, i paid 340 euros for it

>>58006024
whats your current setup for development?

I think you over paid a bit much especially if all you need it for is webdev.

>>58003823
The P50 is really mediocre. I need to sell mine before ebay prices tank.

>>58006050
I have solid build pc with gtx 1060 and all, but its a table pc, and since I am a student I needed a laptop for just work, no gaming, Also I am living in Europe so the Tech is kinda more expensive than in The USA market, i dont see a problem for paying a bit more if its a good stuff that Will not break atleast for 2-3 years.

>>58006101
i think its a fine deal then, seems perfect for working on the go.

>>58006131

Thanks :) glad to hear :))

>>58002620
internal GPU works fine; the previous poster's problem is trying to use linux. windows, where you'd actually be playing a game, has no problems.

How significant is the difference between i5-520m and i5-2520m? I'll be getting either x201 or x220 in the morning, but being poor yuropoorean student that 40$ price difference would make it easier to breathe during Christmas.

It's mainly for CS coursework, web browsing and occasional movie or some digital painting, I don't really play games.

>>58000901
>>>/global/rules/2

>>57998158
What''s the difference between the 50++ and 70++ batteries? Aren't they both nine cell? I have a 50++ and it is only getting about 4 hours of battery life, should I switch to a 70++?

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>>58006695

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Bought a T420s for me mum. 2.6 ghz, 8gb RAM, 128 SSD, 1600×900 for $185, did I do well or fuck up for not getting a regular T420? I hear the cpu is soldered on which kinda sucks.

Just got my t430 in the mail and everything about it is perfect besides the mic mute button. I can't seem to get it to work. Any help? Just did a clean install of windows 10. BIOS is up to date and don't see any drivers for this sort of thing anywhere.

>>58006998
your mum will be fine with a permanent i5 and under $200 is *not too bad*

>>58007119
it's handled by lenovo software

So is the battery light on the back of the screen just supposed to constantly be on? The only time it shuts off is if it is fully charged and plugged in, when it is in sleep mode or when it is off.

>>58007354
ya had to install the hotkey bullshit then turn off the osd feature and now it is working

Thinking about getting a newer thinkpad for uni, is ips display worth for the battery sacrifice?

>>58008443
Of course not, what are you talking about?

>>58007119
Try the Windows 7 OSD driver

Is anyone running KDE Neon on the x220? I'm considering to switch from Debian.

>>58006176

but internal GPU is just weak, thats why am I planning to have egpu

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>>57998158
somebody find me a good x220 on eBay for around $200

>>58008895
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00666T9VI

>>58008953
is it worth the extra money to buy through Amazon?

>>58008895
>>58008953
That's considered good? Phew, just bought one like that but with 6GB ram and semi-new 9cell battery for ~185$, was afraid I overpaid a bit.

>>58009014
>>58008953
I was hoping to get one with an SSD

>>58008895
Think I'm gonna buy this. Someone tell me if I shouldn't: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-x220-i5-8GB-120GB-SSD-12-laptop-tablet-touch-x220t-bluetooth-/282291895735?hash=item41b9e87db7:g:oTwAAOSwA3dYKn87

x40's still the best compact thinkpad

botnet free

I want a notebook to experiment with Linux distros on. Only things I care about are price and non-shit display. 4GB RAM would be plentiful and I'm going to replace the HDD with an SSD either way.
What is a good choice for me?
Thanks.

Hi anons. I want to buy msata ssd (crucial m4 msata) for my thinkpad t420 and on lenovo forum they sad that I need to have a recovery DVD disk. Is it true? Can I install Windows 10 without recovery DVDs?

>>58010515
You can just install windows off a USB, Microsoft have a utility to download and extract an iso onto a USB or DVD. If you already have a DVD to install, it would be more convenient but it isn't necessary.

>Captcha asks for photos of coffee, won't let me pass till I select the one that's clearly tea

>>58010294
T60 anon.

Thinkpads are garbage computers for autistic manchildren who are poor. I can afford the better computer, the mac.

Received my x220t yesterday and i can't get the pen pressure to work in Photoshop or gimp but it work fine in the windows sketchpad.

I tried to install various drivers but they all gave me errors like "this driver did not found a compatible tablet".

The default driver look like it's a generic windows driver from 2006.

I think i tried everything, help.

>>58010672
Reinstal os or buy new pen

>>58010694
Or install w10 instead of 7

>>58010694
If it was the OS it wouldn't work at all.

>>58010702
I'm on w10

>>58010607

Low energy baiting aside the new macbooks are shite.

All laptops are

Workstation or gtfo

>>58010705
http://www.wacom.com/en-us/support/tablet-pc-support
these drivers worked on my x230t

Less than a month left!

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>>58010726
it worked

thanks ma nigga

going to buy a t420 to compliment my x220. It's like they're the perfect duo, they're brothers.

>>58011053
If I were you, I would get a WXXX. Getting a T420 beside an X220 doesn't make much sense to me.

>>58011053
What's the point of having those two together?
X220/T420+Desktop is a good duo. Maybe like >>58011527
suggests, a W is an option too. But why would you want two portable computers?

>>58000227
>laptop for college
>essays and reports
>Politics and Economics
what you are looking for is called - "macbook air"

>>57998169
guess you'd recommend to buy: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-Laptop-i5-4GB-500GB-/152354916695?hash=item23790f8957:g:G64AAOSwbYZXU2Zb
doesn't say what i5 sadly

>>57998246
She's a business laptop, anon! Please keep your thought safe for work.

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R8 my mate's new chinkpad
He bought the 2014's refurbished one for ~550€

>>58011053
They have equivalent specs and are in fairly similar product categories, what's the point? You'd have to keep everything synced between them.

>>58011754
>winblows

>>58011754
>no clickies

>>58012168
He dualbooted tho
>>58012221
Clickies are shit

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>>58012339
>Clickies are shit
Clickies are the best. Everyone knows that

>>58011754
>X1C gen 2
ayy lmao

I'm going to check an X230 in a few hours to see if its worth buying it. I'm getting it pretty cheap compared to other sellers in my country.
What should I pay attention to before buying?
i5 3320m
4 GB
320GB HDD
TN panel

>>58012577
dents and ask for a temp. Ask the guy to install speccy to get a temperature reading. Also, make the screen full white to check for splotches and other issues with the display panel.

keep in mind if you want the performance of an i7, you aren't able to swap the CPU out on the X series so you'll have to buy a new mobo.

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/tpg/, what keyboard do you use while docked and why isnt it an IBM RT3200?

>>58011609
Hey. Econ major here, you take that back. All the failures who couldn't do basic math left for polisci after first year with their Macbooks in tow.

And even though most people in my program have some kind of business laptop, we still use pen and paper more than anything else.

>>58013317
w2c and how much $

>>58011720
Dude, world's oldest profession.

>>57998169
where's the red tactile... waaait.

>>58013317
holy fuck where did you get that
Anyone know how much a t60 frankenpad is worth nowdays?

>>58013400
eBay, any other place where people can sell shit.
$40-$60 and ~$10 for a dual PS/2 to usb adapter.

There is apparently a japanese version of it too which just looks weird. Might get one for keks.

It is rubberdome, but its a nice rubberdome and the only TKL with a 3 button trackpoint.

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>>58013317
they're not that great keyfeelwise, though the TPIV is good. I'd rather pic related tho.

>>58013443
To make or to buy an already completed one? Building one yourself will cost ~$400 total, more if you go for 8gb RAM, a big SSD, or accessories like the advanced dock. Buying outright will cost more, I think I saw a listing for one that was around $600-700 a while ago. It might be worth taking anyway though, just because of how rare the Flexview T60s have become.

>>58013460
>scroll wheel
That would be really awkward right there though. Its only so comfy on a mouse because you have room to move with it.

>>58013460
>schlickpoint-lewd.jpg
how old are you?

>>58010712
I have a T560 I got from work. It's alright. I definitely prefer my W520 but quite honestly, once you have the TrackPoint back, the new "modern" Thinkpads are more than okay. And yes, they blow the fagbooks out of the water.

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On the x220

Is there a official part number for the IPS screen? How many models are there for the IPS screen?

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anyone using bsd on a x220 or similar gen thinkpad? i am tired of linux and gnu and they can fuck off.

>>58013551
what if it's not flexview?

>>58013983
i think they are X1 Carbon spare parts,they fit and are compatible with the flat cable

>>58014216
The stock 1024x768 TN panel won't work properly with a T61 board. There's also no reason to do the mod if you have that panel, just use your T61 as it is.

You can use a "compatible" SXGA+ or UXGA TN panel if you can find one for cheap, but those panels really suck. You get the resolution, sure, but the colors and viewing angles make the stock TN panel look good. Not really worth paying for unless you're desperate.

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>>57998158
>tfw wageslave at local east european foxconn but cannot afford a thinkpad after paying bills

>>58014336
wasn't flexview just the name they gave to the IPS panels in the t60/t61?
sxga+ being 1400 and uxga+ being 1600?

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>>58014360
sorry.
if it makes you feel better i am a poor american who cant afford a computer over $150.

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which stickers to put on your autismbook

>>58013571
no less comfortable than a middle button is...
>>58013674
older than your mother's husband.

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>>57998158
I'm running mint on an x220 and the wirless is beyond shit. Normally I stick to irc and light webbrowsing, but the speed on this is just appalling.

I don't think it's hardware issue since the windows installation on the same machine doesn't have half the problems. What the fuck is wrong with the driver for Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 cards?

I was looking at a x220 or t420 for a cheap laptop to carry with me to classes and on the train, but thinkpads cost a lot more here in Europe than in the US. ON the other hand, it seems businesses in my country and our surroundings use a lot of latitudes/elitebooks. How are they compared to thinkpads? I'd be looking at the ones with I5-520M/2520M's. Any major differences I should be aware of?

>>58014622
>how to extend your tsa screening time in $2 or less

>>58012168
>actually being upset that people use the only functional OS.
I mean, I can be all romantic and rally behind linux, but if you want to get anywhere in life you should absolutely use windows as your main platform, this is not up for debate, it's the best OS, bullshitty or not.

>>58014887
whereabouts in europa are you? you can get a t420 for about 150 quid which is pretty much the same price as in america

Hey guys, just bought a E450 base model (with a 1 TB HDD). It's a fingerprint magnet.
Any tips on keeping it in shape?

so will we see the retro model in a few weeks?
on a scale from 1-10, how much will it disappoint us all?

>>58015103
What's gonna be special about it?

>>58014976
Belgium. I was just hoping I could bid on some auctions and get closer to the 120 dollar mark from the guide as opposed to the 190 dollar upper cost, but very few auctions I've seen ever go that low, and even then I get fucked over by shipping costs most of the time. I really wonder how it is that shipping a thinkpad from Finland is cheaper than one from Germany or France, which are about a 4-6 hour's drive from my door on good days.

I've also got to admit that I kind of dig the looks of elitebooks/latitudes. The thinkspads look neat with their all-black housing, but the I'm also a fan of the aluminium case on the elitebooks and whatever it is that the latitudes have got going. Not that looks are going to make me decide between one or the other, but I like them all.

>>58015115
>non country
yikes!
Have you tried looking on english ebay?

>>58015108
taller screen (unfortunately probably only 10:16)
possibly old keyboard layout
possibly no backlighting, allowing for much nicer keycap materials.
dunno what else, I'm hoping for classical full travel keys and maybe even 3:2/4:3

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/tpg/ say something good to me. I ordered a T420s because I thought they are easy to repair but then I saw this disassembly video. Payed 240€.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3aivW-7qJk

Is there a reason to buy a T420 over a T420s?

>>58015137
>>non country
Tell me about it. I stopped trying to look locally after about half an hour, and I just set ebay to show everything from the european union.

Bought my first Thinkpad, a T430
>tfw finally part of the /tpg/ masterrace

>>58015181
you just posted the reason why the t420 is better than the t420s
the cpu isn't soldered on for one
>>58015189
cmon dude
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-PBPATM9-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-4gb-RAM-256gb-SSD-1600x900-/282291594518?hash=item41b9e3e516:g:cy8AAOSwa~BYSuGW

>>58015181
T420 has better battery life and a socketed processor so you can upgrade it to a quadcore i7.

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i ripped apart a latitude c600. whats this connector called? is it for both video and power?

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>>58015253

>>58015216
>Postage: May not post to Belgium

living in a non-country is suffering

>>58015216
>>58015235
Okay. I can give it back within a month without telling a reason. But is a i7 necessary or rather a reason to buy a T420?

Also, (I'm new to Thinkpads) is is possible to control the fan speed on Linux and Windows?

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>>58015268

>>58015270
just message the dude and offer to pay a tenner or whatnot for shipping, that's a really good price and it has the 1600 res screen
bid on it retard
>>58015282
nah you don't need one at all but it is nice to have
also yeah you can change the fan speed with thinkfan

>>58014870
I'm on Mint with T420 and the same card, and everything is perfect.

>>58015282
It's not necessary, just a major upgrade if you're doing CPU-heavy work. The stock i5 will suffice for casual use.

Use thinkfan on Linux and TPFC on Windows.

>>58014622
I actually put this one on mine

>>58015310
>>58015329
Ok. The CPU heaviest I do is running a Windows 7 VM under Linux and is using a browser/Photoshop.
I'm really pleasured for the Thinkpad. They sell it with 128GB SSD, 8GB RAM in a A-grade condition. Furthermore they give a 1-year warranty expect for the battery.

Btw, should I pay more a new battery? There are prices from 17€ to 45€. Are the 45€ one 3 times better than a 17€ one? Would like to have 3-5 hours battery for power lurking for the lowest price.

>>58015446
Don't buy non-genuine batteries. Expect to pay 30-40

>>58015189
>Set eBay for EU only

You can do that??

>>58015572
yeah, on the left hand side, below the price there's a category "object location" in my language where I can choose Belgium, EU or worldwide.

>>58015588
Why don't we have a central eBay website and not country specific then? Portugal has no eBay option

>macos kernel panicing with possible corrupted memory errors
>run memtest
>error
>run it again on each stick individually
>no error

Meh. I wanted to go to 16 gb on my dankpad anyways.
Also does anyone know where I can get a new, less prone to tripping screw for the keyboard?

>>57998158
Just bought an x260. I'm starting in the police academy soon and I heard this is one powerful yet sturdy motherfucker.

As i'm transitioning back to windows after a few years on mac, I am very new to this. Is there any essential things I should do to my device in terms of both hardware and software? Thanks anons.

>>58015611
I don't know senpai. I don't even know why there even is an option to select Belgium, nobody here sells anything good on ebay. Every time I want to buy something I'm scooting around from German sites to French sites to UK sites. It's all a bit ridiculous.

>>58014622
I used to have the eff nsa eagle and a subtle fandom sticker on my t420. Now I don't have any stickers because they got boring to look at.

>>58015648
guys pls halp

Also, not sure if I'll sound like a faggot for saying this, but does anyone here use rainmeter?

>>58015648
Rainmeter is meh and is shit compared to GeekTool on mac unless you give enough of a shit to make your own skins. It is also considered gaymer tier bloat for some reason.
use Ninite.com to download most of your shit in one place
use common sense and dont be a fucking idiot downloading shit like on all computers.

Hey /tpg/, care for some help deciding?
Got options between a T430 and a T440s, ideas on that?

The 430 has a slightly worse processor and hdd but has a dvd-rw which, afaik. can be removed for an additional drive
The 440s has SSD, better processor and screen res

Battery life doesn't say, any knowledge on that from the top of your heads?

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>>58015648
>3. Turn on the laptop, make sure everything lights up. While it’s in the boot screen, press the Blue ThinkVantage button. It should go into the BIOS with no password.
4. Navigate the BIOS menus, in Security, make sure no other password is set and Intel AMT and Computrace is Inactive or Disabled. (Check the right side of the BIOS screen for current status.)

>format it and install a fresh copy of Windows or your favourite flavour of Linux on it to make it run as efficient as possible. It gets rid of any risk of viruses and unneeded bloatware that some people left over or preinstalled for you.

>encrypt your drives

>>58003806
I actually bought it now. It's gr8.

>>58013983
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/resources/

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>>58015656
Aliexpress takes payments and ships to anywhere in the world without major issues

Stores in the single market won't ship to addresses in the single market because fuck you.

>>58016500
It's a real shame they don't sell thinkpads or similar laptops on ali, because I'd definately be up to take the plunge. Ali has been consequently good in delivering my shit in a decent time, sometimes even more so than amazon deutschland

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>>58016382
>>58014287

I changed my mind.. The extra cost and better display with the same resolution, is not worth the battery life compromise for me. poor viewing angle just means people won't have their nose up in my shit, and if I want better I'll get a newer laptop later.

>>58001412
>buy memepad t420 off of ebay
>comes with win10
>slow as shit to boot (40 seconds or so)
>get ssd
>do clean win7 installation
>it takes like 11 seconds to boot now
Honestly getting an SSD should be the priority for any memepad owner. You can upgrade the CPU and ram later, but the SSD will make your life much easier, and it is the easiest part to upgrade..

>>58001968
Pretty much. Luckily you can swap it out for the other keyboard.

>>58001968
Also you can use 3rd party batteries

>>58016601
This. I recently cloned my OSD over onto an mSATA and its at least 2.5x faster to boot and load programs.
The best layout for maximum speed and data storage per dollar is a mSATA SSD and one or two 7200 RPM drives.

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>>58016759
>is a mSATA SSD and one or two 7200 RPM drives.
My nigger.
I am also using an mSATA for OS and other programs.
>256 gb SSD
>1 500 GB HDD from old laptop
>1 320 GB HDD that came with the T420
I will upgrade, maybe to a second 256 GB SSD (SATA) and a 1 TB HDD in the ultrabay.

what's the general opinion on the t430s ?

>>58016861
I currently only have one 1tb HDD (some HGST one) but it's half full so i dont really need a 2nd one. If the 850 EVO 1tbs would go on an insane sale when i have money to get one, that would be nice.

I have noticed that the HDD is quite loud compared to the fans on average too.

>>58016976
I assume it is quite similar to the T420s i that it has a soldered CPU, less ports, and less battery life compared to it's normal T4x0 counterpart. If you are fine with these tradeoffs and can get one for cheap, go for it.

>>58017045
>I have noticed that the HDD is quite loud compared to the fans on average too.
Yeah, it can be quite annoying.

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>>58017045
serious question.. are storing data there or are you using it for editing and shit like that which will require a lot of "work space"?

>>58017089
well... haven't really thought about it, currently i have a t410, which is sitting 90% of the time on a docking station, so ports should not be a problem.... 90% of the time. So i guess it should be fine. What would less battery life mean btw ? Also, are they really that hot ? And yeah, I think i can get it for cheap.

>>58017131
Storing shit. My T420 is currently my main computer.

Is the wifi card upgradable on the T420 without hacking with BIOS whitelists? If yes, what is the best card available?

>>58016861
>>58016759

If I clone my Win 7 install from a regular SSD to an mSATA, will Windows boot? (I know I should try it myself, yes...)

>>58017241
Why not do a clean install? Just back up your games/documents and get the drivers from the lenovo website. The process should take you less than 2 hours.
And if you already have Win7 on an SSD why would you transfer it to mSATA? SATA does 6 gb/s, mSATA does 3. Get the mSATA for the triple drive setup, but use it for other stuff.

>>58017241
If it clones over the bootloader partition then most likely. I have never done it with windows, but OSX worked.

>>58017272
I have just done a clean install + config. My system is so incredibly comfy I have never felt this good with an OS. You have a point there though. I have an OCZ 240 GB SSD for Win7 + programs, and the original 320 GB HGST HDD for filez n shit. What would I even use a 120-240 GB mSATA SSD for... I'm getting memed here.

>>58017333
Well if it is 240 gb then yeah no..
Might as well just get a 1tb HDD for the ultrabay. The WD Black is 75-ish bucks at the moment.

What should I buy for maximum battery life:weight ratio for <$300 all in? Is x220 w/ 9 cell my best bet?
I'm hoping for 8h+ of usage on a charge, and I'll probably install xubuntu or something similar.

>>58017377
https://www.amazon.com/HGST-Travelstar-2-5-Inch-Internal-0J22423/dp/B00B4QESVQ

>>58000901
Your money, your problem
Tell them to fuck themselves

>>58017393
Is that just a rebranded WD?
Pretty neat. Might get one.

>>58017445
No idea. I have one and it works ok. HGST is supposedly the most reliable HDD brand.

>>58000227
>Friend buys a thinkpad T430S
>He's a psych major
>He doen't even have to run Maple or NX or Auto-CAD
>He just uses it for writing and cookie clicker

Shoot me in the skull

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>tfw no chiclet
feels good man

>>58017188
then why use a SSD if you're just storing shit?

>>58017530
Why wouldnt I?

>>58017516
>these disgusting cuts
for the love of god, fix this dude. Spray it or hide with a permanent marker or something
sweet mother of shit

>>58017530
On Laptops it makes sense using SSDs for storage.

>>58017573
I don't need to look to the keyboard when I type, so it doesn't bother me.

>>58017564

Price and battery consumption.

Unless you're accessing the data all the time, then you're paying more and also losing more battery life by going with an SSD.

>>58017633
>makes sense

how exactly does it make sense?

>>58017829
The SSD was a gift and I have 3 batteries (2 9 cells and 1 6 cell, all over 80% capacity) so i couldnt really give less of a shit about battery life.

>>58017829
>how exactly does it make sense?
Its harder to damage a SSD with constant movement.

One fall and your HDD might get damaged, which wont happen with SSDs.

>>58017932
do you have that problem? if my laptop were to fall the hard drive failing is the least of my concerns. im not shitting on you for having ssd, its your choice. Just curious as to the why, I have a 30gb msata and ill have something in the bay either another 64gb ssd i already had or nothing else, I don't keep files on my computer just in case. I usually have a external hd.

>>58017790
Fix this you disgusting subhuman.
You make our ThinkPad community look bad.

>>58018079
>if my laptop were to fall the hard drive failing is the least of my concerns
With a thinkpad? The whole thing will be nice, but the HDD will be worrisome.
Am I the only one who throws my X220 around because it's faster?

>>58011754
garbage

Perhaps not the best thread to ask, but has there ever been another laptop with a Wacom tablet integrated in the palm rest other than the W700? I think it'd be pretty cool, but W700 is a bit too much laptop for me. I'd even take one completely replacing the touchpad.

Can I upgrade my thinkpad t520 to an Nvidia card? If so, should I get a Nvidia card or an FHD screen?

>>58019162
X series tablets have a giant wacom pad. The entire screen in fact.

>>57998158
Read buyers guide, couldn't find something really suitable
>pref 13", max 14"
>metal chassis if possible
>i7/i5 if it beats my current 2010 i7-740QM
>no known cooling problems
> <$350

Does such thing exsist?
(I'm in the EU btw, the Asus U47A isn't available)
thanks

>>58019184
Sure, but I'd like to try out the palm rest version. Not just for the novelty: with swivel-screen tablets the keyboard isn't available when in drawing mode, and I don't want to get or plug in a separate keyboard for when I'm doing art.

>>58017829
b-but SSD's uses up less power..

>>58019174
You can, but it's not much better than the integrated. Go for the 1080p screen first.

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time to replace this Compaq's screaming 20-gig Travelstar and reinstall Win98.

>>58014887
The E6420/E6430 are pretty good. Not all model have the clit, and the keyboard is different from the T420, but its still significantly better than the island hunt and peck shits, No mSata support though, but you can chuck another drive into the DVD slot with a cradle

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>>58015216
Hey guys, I bought this from exactly the same company this Xmas for £195 - feel I should have checked the resolution - how much is a 900px monitor for this baby?

Lenovo ThinkPad T420

Specification:
Intel Core i5-2410M dual-core
8gb RAM
64gb Kingston SSD
14" display (1366 x 768)
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (UK English)

>>58008725
KDE is not a distro. You can install KDE on Debian. Do you even know why you want KDE?

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hey /tpg/, I'm looking for a new laptop and saw this deal for a used Lenovo T450 for $590 AUD(which is $436 USD). Wondering if you guys think this is good value? Why I ask is because it's a bit outside my budget, but still might be worth considering if it's a good deal. What do you think?

>>58010515
>lenovo forum
is gay. Thinkpad forums is better but both fear discussing alternate install methods.

MDL forums are fucking wonderful. The first thing I learned when I got my first PC is how to get and install pirated and other software. Do that.

>>58016601
Truth. Laptop spinners, all of them, are garbage.

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>Buy T410s on ebay as is with 8gb RAM/SSD/high res for $80
>Only testing they done was a Mint install
>Only has lid scratches and one crack
>Sold as is, I was gonna just salvage the SSD and RAM worst case

>Get in mail in two days
>everything works perfectly, no computrace or BIOS lock
>Is even a touch screen

>I'm fucking estatic.

>>58020246
In other news, is there a way to upgrade the t410s speakers?

>>58020097
keep in mind that all the hardware has been checked and works fine

>>58019733
Don't know if you're trolling or serious...

Yes they use less power if you're using them as opposed to a mechanical drive

If you're not using them then they will actually use more power compared to mechanical

Oi /tpg/
I bought a x220 half a year ago, installed ubunut on it straight away and everything was gucci

But now I had to install windows (7) and I can't make the fucking wireless card work. Tried reinstalling the drivers but it didn't work.
Any ideas?

>>58020431
I never had any issues, whats your wireless card?

Which laptop is best with drawing screen? Im looking at a X230 Tablet with i7 3th gen for around 370. Is it worth it these days?

>>58020643
Intel centrino wireless n-1000

bought a x200 with 2,4ghz, 2gb ram and put a ssd in it.
Testing it with mint 18.1 and video playback on youtube on 720p is really laggy...
Is it broken, or what could be the reasons, also any diagnostics tools I can run on linux or in bios?

God fucking damn I had forgotten how visually cancerous win7 was

>>58020776
>>58020643
Fixed it f am

>>58021008
>tfw i want to get 4 of those for various machines but they are expensive as fuck

>>58020993
what model is this??

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I have a Thinkpad T440p with a 9 cell battery that is not even 2 years old, but it's already unable to hold more than 2 hours of charge when doing office stuff on power saver and screen brightness all the way down

I thought that Thinkpad batteries are able to survive for much longer since this was supposed to hold 8 hours of charge to begin with

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>>58021124
Hmmm.. can you post pic related?

Without knowing anything I would tell you to do a windows reinstall and install the proper drivers from lenovo and fuck around with the energy settings. You have one of the longest lasting laptops in the world on a single charge, something ain't right.

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>>58021025
2001 Compaq Presario 1800T

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>>58021230
I realised that later sorry, what is this for?

>>58021173
I have Winshit 10 and the Lenovo power manager doesn't work with it, but I have the power management drivers installed

>>58021360
I had a problem for a while that the computer would get super hot, battery wouldn't last very long. Me being an idiot having never fooled properly with energy management for laptops figured out that basically I didn't allow the CPU to throttle and it made it run hot all the time AND use more battery.

So I suggest you try fucking around with the energy settings on a fresh install. Why a fresh install? Because I don't know what you got on your laptop and it is simply the weakest link in the troubleshooting process. I'd even tell you to try it with Win7 if it is possible/doable for you simply because you can't control what Win10 is doing, the OS itself could be the cause of your problems.

>>58014526
I feel bad for you, keep on looking. I got my W500 for $150 CAD and I love it.

>>58021408
It throttles like a bitch actually and I have to kill half of processes so that it won't lag like a piece of shit when it does that

Also if I install the software in a VM, I'll be able to see the battery info right

>>58021547
>It throttles like a bitch actually and I have to kill half of processes so that it won't lag like a piece of shit when it does that

That tells me you need to fuck around with your energy settings, if it is so slow that you can't do what you need then it's throttling is going too low, but its shit like that which allows you to have a long lasting battery.

>Also if I install the software in a VM, I'll be able to see the battery info right

I don't know. Are you seriously running VMs while on battery? What are you running I'm curious.

>>58021608
Haha no
I run VM only when I have power plugged in and when I do run a VM it's usually a WinXP VM for compatibility reasons

>>58017516
does it truly feel better? i had a t420 two months before getting my x230 and I cant remember how it felt. I got used to the chiclet really fast I guess, but didnt feel the change between the two. Do you recommend the mod?

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>>58011754
W-where is the caps-lock...?

>>58021298
It's part of a feature that allowed the computer to be used as a CD player while it was turned off. However it required special software on a separate partition to function so all it does now is display battery level, power, and charging status.

is it possible (or worth it) to use the PCI slot of an old Thinkpad R61 ? what additions can be done there?

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>>58022045

Sup fa/g/s,
I'm upgrading my T420:

7800mAh battery (current battery is pretty dead)
90W PSU adapter (I need this for the i7)
Qwerty US keyboard (came with espanol)
Alienware 1600x900 matte display
HD+ cable (needed because currently it's 1366x768)
16GB(2x8) 1600Mhz RAM
i7 7260QM 2.2(3.3)Ghz
Intel 7260 AC wifi (still had one of these laying around)
256GB 850Pro
Ultrabay Adapter for adding hotswap hdds to the system

Is this officially the most balling T420N0SC0P3?
Am I missing anything? What else is there left to upgrade aside from a second wifi card or miniPCIE ssd...

>>58022271
i7 2720QM*

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How the fuck do I disable the Trackpoint scrolling on the T420? I want the middle mouse button to be a CTRL click, not this useless scroll shit.

Pic related.

>>58022412
holy shit you fucking pleb get the fuck out

>>58022453
Answer the question faggot.

>>58014923
5 poos have been deposited on your loo sir

>>58022612
get the new MBP® Powered by Retina Display™

>>58014976
I got a T410 for 250 yuros, guess I got cucked then

>>58022692
I figured it out, had to install some sketchy ass program but it worked.

http://users.v-lo.krakow.pl/%7Emwrobel/programs/tpmiddle.html

Now to help rbt.asia users:

trackpoint, scroll, middle click, ctrl click.

What would be the best ThinkPad to buy as a dicking around/OS experimentation/testing device and not my daily driver laptop?

>>58020993
>>58021008
>>58021230
>>58021298
>>58022101
Lol this was my first laptop. Thanks for the nostalgia.

>>57998158
Anyone burned a audio cd form their thinkpad recently? if so how long did it take to burn?
I'm trying to burn some for my car, but this shit takes like 3-5 hours in my t430

>>58023455
>3-5 hours
>hours
i'm sure you meant 'minutes', which is still 3 times too much.

>>58022412
Stop breathing.

>>58023488
exactly what i thought
im trying to get this macbook with a dead gpu working to seeif it can burn the cds properly.

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Found a dell xps 14 ultrabook used, mainly need for university, editing photos.

>Intel® Core™ i7-3517U
>1 GB nVidia GeForce GT 630M
>500gb hdd + 32gb ssd
>8gigs ram
Battery goes up to 3 hours but i guess i can screw up and put a new one in ?!
Price 600€

Is this a good deal ?

>>58024360
jesus christ don't pay 600 limes for that

>>58024373
Explain ? Not getting a lenovo though...need a good display this time

>>58024446
>an underclocked cpu that's beat out by core gen 2 & 3 M (ps it WILL throttle)
>dgpu is horseshit. integrated intel won't play a game, but nvidia mobile will boot the game, run it so slowly that you might as well not have tried, AND run hot as shit the whole time
>the display is going to be as good as the 1600x900 TN screen option in the t420/430 because it's the exact same screen. xps 14 doesn't have an ips option
>shit keyboard
>600 hundred fucking limey pounds

>>58024360
That's pretty dogshit desu

I seriously thinking on ditching Apple for good. They're heading in a direction where only hipsters and Starbucks addicts wants to go.
I want a powerful equipment for my VST and muh gaymen needs (GTA V, Skyrim, WoT and shit) but also want mobility so should go with a T5X0/W5X0 or getting a cheap X2x0 and use the rest of the money to build a nice desktop?

what is /g thinking about 3rd party batteries?
A oem battery cost nearly as much as my used thinkpad.

>>58025194
They're absolute garbage.
Source: My mom's X220 can't stay over hour and half on a new chink battery.

X220 or X230? The price different is quite small.

>>58025244
X230
>better battery life
>better construction
>chiclet keyboard actually has better switches
>you can change the chiclet keyboard for the X220 one

Ok, so on the T420 I bought I forgot to check about computrace. Don't have it with me right now, but I remember when I went to check for a bios password, it didn't show any message or notification about it. It should be disabled then, right?

>>58025312
Yes.
If you're paranoid, disable computrace forever.

>>58025344

Don't need to go that far, I'm fine with it as long as it's already off.

>>58025370
Then enjoy your dankpad, my friend.

>>58019050
Thats very rude
>>58021869
Caps lock is for babbies

Is Dell Latittude E7240/E7440 good?

New thread:
>>58025869