/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

lol why would i buy these old crap laptops instead of a macbook

you should use the catalog next time.
>>57959035 is current thread

>>57961285
>'current thread'
>didn't take the time to copy and paste the OP

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Where did it go so wrong?

>>57961404
Around 2010 when the T510 came out.

T410 users (on Linux): did you manage to get an external mic working with it?

It has that shitty dual jack port and whenever I plug in my mic, it detects it as headphones. I tried some hdarejack utility, but it didn't work (wouldn't let me disable the headphone jack or make it be the mic jack). Is there really no way but to shill out money and import one of those shitty adapters?

>>57962071
no way the T510 is the best thinkpad there is

>>57962172
Sorry, but it's when they introduced 16:9 and began compromising.

>>57962185
What I don't understand is the that Lenovo has always marketed the T/X series as premium laptops yet put absolute shit screens in them.

It can't be that more expensive to ask for custom 16:10 or 3:2 panels, at the volume that the T/X series sells at it must be an extra $15-20.

whats the expected price difference between the X220 and the X230?

>>57961404
i dont know what point you are trying to make.

what are the thoughts on x240s (4gb, i5 4200u, 500gb hdd) for 450 usd? does it support 16gb ram?

>>57963467
i guess screen ratio

>>57962185
This. 16:9 is great for media, but who the hell watches media on a thinkpad.
>>57963574
Isn't 4200u barely better than ivy bridge?

>>57963763
ywah but consider that its pretty powerfull for an ulv processor. way more batterylife

how do i get a new T420

thanks

>>57963847
browse craigslist/ebay until you find a price you're willing to pay

>>57963847
You don't.

>>57963847
you can get almost new one by searching for corporate models

what the difference between t420 and t420s? Also second gen i5 is ok in these?

>>57961404
>Dat short screen

>>57963847
Buy it part-by-part from chinese warehouses.

>>57963909
"s" is for slim. so t420s is a bit lighter.
i'm using a 2nd gen i5 laptop now. the cpu is more than enough. the intel hd graphics 3000 is quite slow though

>>57962731
40usd, probably

Someone experienced “freezing” issue on T420? Is that a thing?

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Uh so the screen cover on my T420 is a bit loose on one side, it won't stick to the frame properly. Hasn't really affected functionality so I haven't minded much. But now I've noticed that side has started getting warm for some reason. I'm assuming this can't be very good. The wiring must be fucked somehow. The left side of the screen is perfectly cool

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Need your opinion, lads.

Is the X220 too small as the main and only computer? No external monitors or anything.

>>57964829
look up its dimensions and measure it for yourself! its pretty comfy for what i do, but my main computer is a desktop

>>57964829
768 px is pretty unusable since lots of websites and applications waste vertical space these days.

>>57964918
fuck off.

>>57964829
its fine. if you are a resolution whore than just get a monitor or get a bigger laptop.

>>57962112
Or just use a USB mic like a decent human being.

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What do you guys think about aluminum body Thinkpads?
Is it an abomination?
I have no prior Thinkpad experience, and I think the silver casing is pretty nice.

>>57965226
silver cases are for bling bling nigger rappers and stacys tho

>>57965226
get a black

>>57965412
the black one is made of ordinary plastic, so it's weaker than the silver one which has a aluminum lid and aluminum plate on the keyboard area

Hey guys, so i'm thinking about buying a ThinkPad, i use arch linux with a riced i3wm, but i don't know if it is worth it buying a T430 to replace my Lenovo G580 (it is working well but i need some more performance and a better build quality), if it isn't, what model should i go for then? i'm looking for some portability (looking for 14" screen, can be normal size or ultraportable), performance (i plan on playing some games from steam and watching my animes, so i guess a nice screen would be cool and a good heat dissipation method would be nice, which makes me not so sure about ultraportables) and compatibility with a nice dock to use with multi monitors and external hard drives.

>>57964829
if its too small get a biger one like mentioned if you want it anyway get a monitor or a dock and monitor/monitors you can get the IBM / lenovo ones cheap too

>>57961258
So long story short I'm a homeless but some nigger (yes literal) stole my dell latitude. Now I'm in the market for a new laptop which ThinkPad is obviously what I'm going to buy - my budget would be less then $600 so far the model I like is the lenovo thinkpad 13 (silver model) is that a good one?

>>57965695
find a nigger and fuck him up

>>57965695
http://www.laptopmag.com/articles/lenovo-thinkpad-13-hands-on

The keyboard on the thinkpad 13 has the same 2.1mm key travel as the T series thinkpad.

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i want put sticker on T420

>want to buy the Thinkpad 13
>no ethernet port
reeee

>>57965750
reeeeeeeeeeee

>>57965750
I too was disappointed with the lack of an RJ45 port, but I came to realize that very few ultrabooks have those.
I'd have to pay few hundred dollars more and get a T460s or a X260 for a RJ45 port.
So I'm just going to go for it.

>>57964955
I own a fucking X220, retard. I use it every day as my ONLY computer.

768px one of the biggest annoyances I have with it.

>>57965718
Well this goes into a bunch of things but yes I know who this person is but he's a dangerous thug. Play stupid game get stupid prizes (in the sense of myself) I should've never cooped myself up with such persons and not suspected this nature.

For more reference the night it happened I had one black girl dancing on my mat, explain to her this is not her mat, she yells at me so I retrieve the staff to tell her ya this isn't your mat. She actually listens to them and says 'oh', but of course side stepping the fact that she initially harassed me when politely telling her to get her bare feet, dancing self off my mat. Then my backpack with all my stuff is missing out of my bin, no shorter then realizing this a vicious assault between two individuals occurs. One is knocked unconscious with blood everywhere. Then yet another person is walking out of the shelter with multiple backpacks that aren't his (one being mine). ------ Every person involved in this story is black but I presumed that was easily inferred based on the behavior.

>>57965729
Great find. I'll give this a watch but I think this is the laptop I'm going to purchase. Would you buy this one?

>>57965831
no fucking way, you better be roleplaying anon.
when did you become homeless, and why?

>>57965947
>be homeless
>decide to blow money in a fucking laptop instead of moving out of the shitty shelter

>>57965809
I'm in the same boat. I have default page zoom set to 90% in Vivaldi though so it gives me a little more space

>>57965947
Became homeless about three months ago because of family tired of my autistic neetdom.

I'm getting a case manager tonight to help me replace all my identification so I can get a job and get this thinkpad. I wish it wasn't so but it is. I'm strong though I'm surviving and replacing my stuff with better stuff.

And through being homeless I became much more passionate about programming. I had been programming for about one month prior to my shit being stolen but I had wrote a robot taht applied to jobs for me, an irc chat robot, and was making very steady progress on a bit torrent client. I'll be back programming really soon - and actually as typing this I'm on a public library computer solving some online programming challenges through an online ide and ocmpiler.

>>57966095
I had the laptop prior to becoming homeless.

>>57966129
keep going my fellow neet. you are free now

>>57966129
how old, anon?

>>57966129
someone get this dude a free old thinkpad

So I just replaced the shitty TN in my X230 for an IPS. I never knew the TN was this shitty compared to the IPS. I can also finally watch websites with white background without my eyes burning out of my sockets.

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>>57965809
>I own a fucking X220
dont care.

>>57966122
i do the same. did the same with my tablet, my asus and my x220. also pick a better browser.


for the both of you, stop taking things for granted. if you're so mad about the resolution take your bill money and buy a computer with a better screen.


why is /g/ so triggered by 1366?
do most of you niggers wear bottle caps??

>>57961285
Learn to make decent threads

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>>57966623
>also pick a better browser

I used Opera earlier, then I switched to this

Higher resolution just offers a bit more space, unless you scale down every program manually, if it even lets you do that. Like your web browser, or an IDE. But then the text looks a bit grainy when you make it smaller on this resolution

>>57966704
i like alot of things about opera, like the speed and the built in ad blocker which was top notch. but it lacks in a lot of features.

as for resolution, i dont get peoples issue. im on my x220 and everything is o-tay. if you want higher resolutions plug your laptop into a separate screen, buy a dektop or be a mobilefag.

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>>57966945
>if you want higher resolutions plug your laptop into a separate screen

That kinda defeats the purpose of a portable computer. I mean I can live with it, but it definitely feels a bit cramped with some things. Thinkpads were designed for working comfortably, low resolution hampers it

>be a mobilefag

You can't do any kind of serious work on a phone

>>57966945
I like almost everything about opera. Everything but the fact that it is sold off to the chinks. And that is why I will never use Opera anymore.

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>>57964326
Jesus christ I'm fucking retarded, it was getting warm because it's leaning against my leg. Fucking kill me

>>57966440
but you still have to deal with the shitty 768px res

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Picked up a T420 as an Xmas gift to myself for £195 - second hand. Specs are:
Intel Core i5-2410M dual-core
8gb RAM
64gb Kingston SSD
14" display (1366 x 768)
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit (UK English)

Hard-disk is tiny and the lack of display resolution is a bit annoying but I only need it to some web development on really. Possibly a bit overpriced?

What's the first thing I should do once it arrives?

>>57967382
It's good enough for me. I have my AMVA high resoltion IIyama screen on my desktop if I want higher resolution or when I do more color critical work.

>>57965226
Gookovo has completely shit on the Thinkad brand

This is disgusting

>>57967838
>1366 x 768
Sell it and find a nicer one.

>>57967952
Cool, thanks for the advice - was a bit of an impulse buy scouring eBay but yea now I'm wondering if i should have gone for a 900px model

>>57968032
If you're good with tools there's no point trying to find a 1600x900 model, get a 1366x768 model and upgrade it to the superior Alienware M14x panel.

>>57967838
>upgrade OS
>upgrade SSD
>upgrade RAM
>upgrade screen
>upgrade BIOS
>upgrade CPU

My preferred order but pick your priorities

>>57968045
>glossy
When will the meme end?

>>57968079
>implying you even go outside for a glossy screen to matter

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2017 X1C slides leak

>>57968145
Sadly, you can see reflections in every bright room.

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>>57968167

>>57968167
Giant touchpad

>>57968167
>>57968188
Anything on the x270/t470?

>>57968167
Thanks.

Good: Slowly catching up to Apple with the 2x TB3 ports.

Absolutely disgusting: Lenovo's mental incapacity to understand that 16:9 is not OK.

Anyone here have a T560? My company just issued me one, the 1080p screen is a huge upgrade over the 1366x768 shit on my older T540p and I am fucking thankful to have the TrackPoint buttons back. Overall the laptop seems really damn decent, except for the screen. The resolution is fantastic and the viewing angles are not bad, but the colour seems horribly inaccurate. Everything has a green tinge and the basic Windows 2000-ish blue background looks like Windows 95 teal. I have a W520 at home which sort of spoils me as far as colour accuracy goes, but I don't remember even the dogshit panel on the T540p being this bad.

Is this a common T560 complaint? Should I bother requesting a new unit? I don't do any graphic work but the screen is literally triggering me.

>>57968188
>Silver option
WE MACBOOK NAO

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>>57968452
>Absolutely disgusting: Lenovo's mental incapacity to understand that 16:9 is not OK.

You really trust Lenovo to deliver on custom 16:10/3:2 panels? They'll right the aspect ratio right but then fuck up the color gamut, contrast, brightness, calibration

>>57968478
>tfw no titanium lid option

>>57968502
The Z series looked pretty nice, shame they were garbage.

>>57965777
>RJ45
>not 8P8C

>>57968502
How hard can it be to point at a Surface Book and say "I'll have what he's having" ?

That said, I'd take a bad 3:2 display over the bad 16:9 displays they're providing now.

>>57961258
I wanna build a t60 x t61 frankenpad with libreboot. Anyone got a good tried and tested guide for it?

Anyone own a w701 or w700? I am interested in buying one but would like to hear some pros and cons.

>>57968953
Already own a x220t that I use/travel with daily. I would like a larger thinkpad for home use. The numpad and digitizer is very appealing on the these.

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>>57968953
they still expensive AF if i got the money i wodl get the w700ds

>>57969595
Nice set up. That's pretty much what I'm looking for. I use the digitizer all the time on my 220 so I would like to find a DS with the pad.

>>57965695
Why do you need a laptop if you're homeless, dude

>>57969725
Where is he going to put a desktop if he doesn't have a home

What's your opinion on the Thinkpad 13?

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>>57967166
>the reddit icon in windows 8

>>57970021
my fucking sides

>>57967838
Depends what you wanna do.
If you wanna use linux install the distro you like.
If you wanna make your device better buy a bigger SSD and a better display.

You could upgrade the ram but idk I don't think it is neccesary for what you use it for.

>>57968953
I have a w701

+
Huge screen
16:10
Wacom pad

-
Huge
Doesn't fit in most bags
920XM and FX3800M are slower than a skylake-u dual
No battery life

>>57967838
You got ripped off, I got a 1600 x 900 mint condition one for 120 quid

>>57967838
Dude I got a t430 for pretty much the same price with a 180gb SSD and a 1600 screen and I'm in Australia with fucked prices.

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What is the consensus on the x260

I'm looking at getting the FHD version with the 6 cell 7Wh battery because I need all the charge I can get. I spoke to one of their customer service reps and he could set me up with some extra batteries for hot swapping too, so I'm wondering if there's any issues besides it not being a pre-2009 Thinkpad.

>>57971087
X270 is about to be released.
X260 was already bad when it was new
X270 will probably be bad too, though.

>>57971457
How so?

I'm looking at the hot swappable batteries and their overall life span as a huge pro, so what are the cons?

>>57965532
Don't get a ThinkPad then

>>57971509
>No NVMe SSD support
>FHD panel is shit
>No indicator lights

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Are there any recommendations on how to clean off a thinkpad surface panel? I came into possession of a nice x220 but it has a few darker splotches on the outside. Do they make replacement panels or anything like that?

>>57971563
Cool, thanks.

I'm looking at picking up a cheap Thinkpad for my mom, what would be your pick? It would be for general browsing and writing papers. Leaning toward a T430.

>>57961404
>No trackpad
Into the trash it goes

>>57971087
I have a X260. For battery life, it's pretty damn good. A full charge with the larger battery can get me 17+ hours while doing stuff like browsing with the brightness set just a bit below max, but I haven't paid enough attention though. Lasts for quite a while either way. The faults mentioned by the other guy kinda blow, but I prioritized battery power over everything else, so yeah.

The FHD screen quality is a crapshoot though. It can range from absolute shit to slightly above mediocre, but it's good enough for what it is. The previous poster also forgot to mention the fact that it only has 1 slot of RAM, which means 16 GB max and single channel only. Luckily, it's DDR4 and not DDR3L so 16 GB isn't too expensive.

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What's the best choice when it comes to current Thinkpads? I have a T420 and it's just too slow for me. I want a very fast, new laptop, not necessarily with a dedicated GPU but it would be a nice bonus. Priorities are performance, quality and battery life, not so much weight or size. Im trying to decipher Lenovos incrompehensible lineup, and im currently looking at the X1 Carbon, T460s, T460p or P50. I hate how much you pay extra for the same specs with these models. Is the premium still worth it with Thinkpads? Are there any non-lenovo alternatives worth looking at? Is the current point in time extremely bad for buying laptops or is waitfagging for Kaby Lake pointless?

>>57965695
What the fuck you doing spending $600 on a computer if you are homeless? I mean, unless you're voluntary live in van meme homeless.

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How many more years can I expect to get out of a t430?

>>57972063
totally agree. at first i felt empathy reading he was homeless and had his shit taken, but learning why he is homeless?

>hurr i wanted to be lazy NEET and do nothing all day

natural selection at work
also, i get that he needs the thinkpad to do his programming, but there is no reason he should be looking at spending upwards of $500 on a NEW thinkpad, when even we who have jobs buy used t420 t430 models

one stupid decision after another

>>57972224
You could get by on an even shittier model. Linus gets by on a piece of shit netbook for the Linux kernel.

>>57972059
P50 is far and away the strongest of those four. P70 is even stronger if you can handle a 17 incher. That said, I'm having a hard time imagining what sort of workload is too much for your T420. Is it just something that requires more threads? Because Intel processors haven't improved all that much from Sandy Bridge.

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>>57972059
I got a P50. It's pretty good. Not worth MSRP tho, maybe wait until there is a corporate discount.

>>57972936
Mostly the bloated intelliJ IDE and the docker server i have to use for work. It keeps the cores topped out at 100% and makes things very slow. I know that all of this software is shit but i don't have a choice.

>>57973072
How is the P50 build wise? I like a lot that it has a numpad and dedicated volume buttons. How's the screen, and what version do you recommend / which one do you have? Can you expand with more SSDs? Does linux fare well with M.2 PCIe SSDs? How's the battery life?
>corporate discount
I would get it cheaper with the Lenovo Campus program

>>57962367
They spend 90% of their life in a docking station.

>>57973126
>How is the P50 buildwise?
Bulid is really solid. About 0.75 inches thick, but pretty sturdy. Nothing flimsy that I can tell from using it.
>How's the screen
I just opted for the cheapest 1080p screen, I don't need an insane screen. It's fine. There can be a tiny diagonal screen tearing, but that was only with Ubuntu liveusb, so I don't know whether it's just an Ubuntu thing or a linux driver thing. No tearing in Windows 10.
>SSDs?
1 slot for a regular sized HDD or SSD and 2 M.2 PCIe slots.
>Does linux fare well with M.2 PCIe SSDs?
I don't have any M.2 SSDs, and I haven't finished setting up linux because of school, but I'll do it later.

>>57972112
really depends on what version you have

>>57973277
I really might by this thing. Battery life on normal use?

>>57973373
Very good. 8-10 hours regular browsing and whatnot, depending on brightness and power settings. Obviously running high intesity applications not so much (maybe 3-4 hours), but it does charge back up pretty fast.

>>57973126
I'd reckon you could solve your problems much more cheaply by just getting a quadcore i7 for your T420. That's just a guess though, if you'd rather be certain and you have the cash to burn, go ahead and buy a P50.

>>57973427
That's a lot more than i expected. According to your picture you have the model with the Xeon. Doesn't that thing have no own integrated GPU, unlike the Core i* models? I thought the Quadro has to be always on in that case.

>>57973495
Is that possible? Do you mean the sandy lake quadcore that was originally available for the T420, or some sort of T430 cross-upgrade?

>>57973567
It wasn't ever offered stock in the T420, but you can swap in a quadcore Sandy Bridge i7 with minimal effort. Most people around here opt for the 2720qm, since the cooling in the T420 has a hard time handling the higher-clocked models. I haven't done it myself, but I have a W520 with the 2720qm and can attest to the increase in power over a 2520m T420.

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New to this Thinkpad business. How fast do you guys keep your clit mouse?

>>57963592
>>57963467
>>57961404

Screen ratio?

What I see is that they managed to use a full sized keyboard instead of one constrained by space. Also added a trackpad which is always useful, not everybody fucks around with their clit all the time.

>>57973126
I also have the P50.

My configuration is 6820HQ, 64GB of RAM, 256GB Samsung OEM SSD, 4K display.

The lower section is built solidly, comparable to most older Thinkpads. No real problems there. Keyboard sucks, but we all know about this. Numpad is good to have and the asymmetry doesn't bother me.

The upper lid is very weak and flexible due to the lack of any reinforcement (the LCD housing is just a thin fiberglass composite board). This is how they got the thickness down. If any pressure is applied to the back of the LCD (say, from books in a backpack) the LCD will be compressed against the keyboard/trackpoint, leading to the formation of white spots/blemishes. If this happens, Lenovo will replace it without a problem, but it's a design problem they apparently don't care about fixing.

The 4K LCD is good, not great quality. Viewing angle color consistency is below-average for an IPS screen, but not bad enough to be a problem.

I only use Windows so I can't say anything about Linux compatibility.

Battery life is about 2-3 hours under consistent load. Not sure what it would be if you weren't stressing it.

>>57973567
The Xeons are identical to the i-series except ECC memory support is enabled and there are some different clock speeds available. They have the same IGPs.

>>57973922
>trackpad which is always useful
Spoken like someone who's never used the X220 trackpad. That thing is 100% garbage.

>>57973935
>The upper lid is very weak and flexible due to the lack of any reinforcement
That sounds fucking horrible. My Laptop is constantly in a backpack, does the replacement only apply within the warranty? That sounds almost worthy of a recall.
>Battery life is about 2-3 hours under consistent load
Sounds a bit more in line with the specs of that thing.

I really don't know. I feel like im paying a ton of money for things i don't need with the P50, from the Xeon to the Quadro to the color verification stuff and so on, and that's plus the already pretty hefty Thinkpad tax. The T460p isn't all that great either, i've heard the screen is shit and buying something with a GTX 900 series GPU right now when the GTX 1000 series just released and made such a large performance leap just feels dumb. Additionally, they actually might announce the Retro thinkpad at CES 2017 in January, and the X1 Carbon with Kaby lake is already leaked. I think waiting really is the best choice, but it hurts so much since i have to spend more money this year for my fucking taxes.

>>57971683
>x220 outside panel

Liquid dish detergent straight works pretty good, just work it on the surface and allow to dry.

>>57974182
>That sounds fucking horrible. My Laptop is constantly in a backpack, does the replacement only apply within the warranty? That sounds almost worthy of a recall.
It applies to most Thinkpads w/o a touch screen since the *40 series redesign, not really a P50-specific issue. Maybe more notable here since P50's durability has been hyped. I don't think they will help you past the warranty period, but they are very efficient during it.

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>>57973965
the fuck you talking about willis.

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Quick, someone give me two hundred thousand dollars. I need to buy a twenty-year-old tablet convertible.

>>57971457
>>57972006
What should i be looking at in terms of better quality that might have some good battery life? BL is still my priority but if there are better compromises of quality/battery I'm all ears.

>>57967166
>That kinda defeats the purpose of a portable computer

Does it? or is that the entire point of buying a computer you can carry everywhere.

Ok boys, I have a T420 and a L412. I need to give one away, but which one? I really can't decide.

Thinking the L412 since I don't think I can upgrade the parts as cheap as the T420, but I'm not sure about it at all really so I'm just looking for someone to make up my mind for me.

Yo dudes, just got gifted a T460. Tell me some cool things about it please

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sup, i buy a new motherboard recently from ebay for my x230 and... this have no serial and model number write, so i have now this errors:

2200: Machine Type and Serial Number are invalid.
2201: Machine UUID is invalid

I already tried this:

https://sites.google.com/site/shaneucf/home/how-to-change-model-type-and-serial-number-of-thinkpad

But does not recognize the usb stick,
What should I do?

>>57969595
A cute!

>>57973903
Maxed out that mf.

If you are new, start from a low sensitivity, then gradually increase it until you max it.

>>57975601
ask for a refund anon

>>57975789
Impossible, I have already paid as fees when she arrived in my country and it's works. Only drawback is this error.

>>57975884
Tell them it never got there. They sent you a defective unit don't feel bad about it they're fucking you if you don't say anything.

How much should you pay for a t420

Just got a second hand T430 for just over $120, i5, 4GB ram and no hd, good value? Next buy a cheap ssd and install muh gentoo?

>>57966440
Thinking about upgrading the TN on my x230 to an IPS. How much would you guys pay on average for one?

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>kinda want

should I?

There is also another guy selling a frankenpad advertised as "the fastest 14" 4:3 thinkpad in the world"
>T60p shell
>15.4" T61p motherboard
>Processor: Core2Quad Extreme QX9300
>GPU: nVidia Quadro FX570m
>SSD etc.
>~$700
I'm pretty sure its the same guy from the thinkpad forums who's been trying to sell this frankenpad for years with no luck

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>>57976498
>nVidia Quadro FX570m

>>57961258
Can the T420 / X220 be fully librebooted, by which I mean have the Intel Management Engine disabled, like the T400?

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>>57976681
>it is produced AFTER 08/08 which means it is NOT affected by "the nVidia bug". Also since it is a 15.6 "mobo, it is 256 MB.


also included is a advanced dock with a AMD Radeon HD7750

>>57975601
Looks like Tyrone/Pajeet has left something in the security chip. The pins 5 and 6 may be short circuted.

>>57975499
I have disassembled both types, give the L away, it does not have the Mg alloy rollcage

>>57976498
danish anon here, thanks, i'll take it.

>>57965695
>TFW homeless people have more money than you
>no_face.gif

>>57976892
Good for you. I'm happy enough with my X200

>>57965695
>thinkpad 13

Considering your situation, wouldn't something with longer battery power be more convenient?

Even the x230 is considered to have a great battery life with the 9 cell battery, I'd sugest you do that. If you want something newer and can actually afford it I would buy a x260.

As far as the thinkpad 13, idk, people say its good but I wouldn't be putting that much money into it if I couldn't squeeze more battery life out of it as I can with a x230. Stay warm anon.

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I'd like to find a cheap Thinkpad to run ableton with some plugins as well as casual internet browsing. Will a t400 do the trick? There's one locally for 100 bucks. There are also 410s and 420s for 150 nearby as well as a x200 for 150. Pls help.

>>57968323
i love giant touchpads

>>57968452
16:10 is for autists

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>>57977689
go for a 420/420s

I use Ableton on my X220 with some plugins to record demos.

bretty gud :^)

>>57977850
Have any trouble with latency from midi controllers or anything like that? Thanks for the help.

Buying a t420 tomorrow for $160 did I fuck up /tpg/?

Someone tried second-hand corporate ThinkPad models? Hows the quality?

What is /tpg/s opinion on this >>57977789

>>57978327
Don't waste your time.

hi
is there any way to make the x1 carbon buttons and touchpad not shit
I like the nipple but sometimes I want to use the touchpad, but it fucking blows, and the buttons are squishy and double click really fucking often
I have the original 2013 version, or whichever one the first gen is

>>57978377
So it's a shitty laptop or what do you mean?

>>57978469
Yes, if you want to get a Dell, get a Latitude.

GIRLS AND LITTLE BOYS.
ARE YOU AT ALL EXCITED FOR CES?

>>57978107
>Someone tried second-hand corporate ThinkPad models? Hows the quality?
off-lease resellers usually do a pretty good job. They're pricier but you'll usually get a damn near pristine machine.

Thinkpad or Dell Latitude? I do nothing other than playing mmo, downloading manchurian artwork and browsing 4chan.

>>57976753
The general consensus of the average cuck here nowadays is to just embrace the botnet and pretend that ME/AMT is not an issue whatsoever.

>>57976498
>nvidia quadro
just asking for the board to fail

>>57976768
Where's the proof? The BIOS date? Lol.

Is the x201 of any use? I don't see it mentioned anywhere in these threads. As far as the x series goes they seem to be 60% "muh x220", 35% "muh x230/40/50/60", and 5% "muh x200".

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>>57978907
don't forget the X60 and X61. And X62.

>>57978907
Too expensive for the specs. Thats why they are rarely seen here. You can get better performance for a bit more with an X220.

>>57978907
I use x201. But that because it was like 3 years ago and X220 is still expensive in my country.

>>57973311
elaborate pls

>>57978919
Yea, but that seems like fringe nowadays limited to 1-2% perhaps (i.e. within the margin or error).

>>57978924
>Too expensive for the specs

What would be the price for an x201 then for it to be a good option? Let's assume it has 4GB of RAM and a 320GB HDD.

>>57978931
What are the specs and what did you pay for it back then? What upgrades did you do (if any)? Did you update the BIOS (I heard some had problems with some error on boot after doing a BIOS update on x201)?

>>57979093
RM900/USD 202. Stock spec. I never modified it at all. I didn't even bother to clean it or change the thermal paste when they are dusty as fuck. I use windows7 and update everything including the BIOS, I think.

>>57978477
Okay then, thanks for warning me

>>57979137
Could you verify what specific BIOS version you have currently (either on reboot or via a diagnostic tool like Speccy)? I'm wary of updating due to the error reports I have been hearing about, if you didn't encounter any problems then info on what version you updated to would be of help.

>>57979245
LENOVO 6QET70WW (1.40 ), 11-Oct-12

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>>57979440
Thank you. Did you also update the ME firmware by any chance? I'm asking because some people who updated their x201 BIOS suffered from a MEBx error message after the update, and the ME firmware update might be fixing it (though it's probably best avoided as it also seems to extend the botnet features of ME/AMT, such as add "provisioning" over wireless LAN).

Btw a sightly newer main BIOS version (1.40-1.15/1.15 from 2013/06/21) seems to exist, the changes being "Embedded controller update will modify battery charge algorithms to balance battery charging and lifespan".

>>57978919
is that paint or actual chrome?

Hey guys a question:

I'm to poor to afford a thinkpad. Should I buy an "ideapad"?

>>57971988
That or a T420.
Which ever you find cheap in your area.

>>57980005
>I'm to poor to afford a thinkpad
What. T420 cost around 150-200$

>>57980005
no, because there is no longevity with those

just buy a model lower than what you were hoping to get

for example, if you wanted a T430? get a t420 now.

desu i wouldn't go any lower than a t420 though, you can find one for less than $200 nowadays

>>57980005
why dont you get the recomendet x220 or T420 wat do you want to do on it?

does my x220 have a webcam or not? its just a black bar by the thinklight. i dont know if its supposed to be hidden or its not just there.

>>57980689
If there's no visible lens then I guess it doesn't (the camera should be detected in device manager if present). I'm also wondering why the black bar is there if no cam is present.

>maybe there's a hidden one inside the bar that's only accessible to ME/AMT

my T420 is clumsy as ball these day i'm using cuckdow 10 and sometime i got this problem should i use W7?
or just another shitty solvable problem?
https://youtu.be/Xii7-cKPOWc

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>>57980809
pic

Just picked up a T410s with 8gb/128gd ssd and the HD screen for $80. Not in the best shape and all I know is that Mint works on it, but I figure that's about what I would spend on the RAM and ssd alone upgrading my current lower spec equipment.

>>57980823
So the poojeets stripped the BSOD of the rest of its dignity by now adding some QR code to it.

>>57980823
What's the weird W-like symbol on the backslash key?

>>57981307
of course it mean's our money 'won!'
any way i'm fixing problem

>>57981321
>of course it mean's our money 'won!'
Please elaborate, it's not clear what you mean by that.

>>57981355
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korean_won
i realize something wrong what the fuck is \ key use it for anyway?

>>57980823
>>57981321
I wish I had the old /b/ meme AMERICAN PIG DISGUSTING picture

>>57981377
In Unix it's generally used an escape character, so that the next character which normally would have a special meaning to it will be treated as just the literal character. In Windows it's a directory separator (the original version of DOS didn't have directories so they used the forward slash to denote a command line option).

>>57980760
its cheaper to make one plastic mold

>>57981817
And it's safer to put some insulation tape over it anyway for good measure.

>>57966623
>1366x768 is totally fine

Kys

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>>57961258
What model would i be looking for if I wanted a t420, except with hdmi and usb 3.0?

here is OC pic of newfoundland btw

>>57976444
I paid like 55 euro's incl shipping from Aliexpress for mine.

If you care about the screen it's definitely worth the upgrade. Even the contrast values are much better than the shitty TN. The TN is just shit in every aspect (even for a TN panel). Colors are shit, blacks are shit max brightness is shit. It's like Lenovo wasn't even trying with the TN panel and just forced users that even remotely care to go for an IPS.

>>57982015
>>57961258
also why is the T420 recommended and the T430 not when its just a few bucks more expensive and carries usb 3.0?

>>57982215
ah, nevermind, just saw t430's ugly as shit keyboard, fuck thar

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>>57982215
>>57982363
the keyboard actually isn't bad at all, it is very comfortable

the problem is that they deviated from the design they've been using for over a decade. the audience of the thinkpad is not the same people who buy macs and other gay shit

also, t430 has battery DRM, which is also a bad thing

but as for performance, the hd 4000 is a huge step up from the hd 3000 igpu

>>57982215
>>57982363
>>57982015
also if you took that pic, it is quite nice

where are you, I am assuming northwest europe?

>>57982215
Also in my area T430 is 150% of T420 price.

>>57974184
Cool, thanks man I'll try it out.

Do you guys have any advice which linux distro and DE/WM to use for prolonged battery life? (Excluding tileing WMs I like the idea, but I can't get used to them)

eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/300674241598
Would a t420 hard drive caddy fit in an ultrabase?

Am i dumb for feeling contempt with the R61 i have?
i know R-series is supposed to be very low quality but it still feels more sturdy than any other laptop i had
and despite being old it works great with lubuntu

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i don't remember what this thing does again?

the part i'm pointing the screwdriver at

>>57983017
Nothing really wrong with them, I was running an R61i up until a month ago. Its fine for casual use, and If it's slow you can just buy a better merom/penryn cpu for ~$5.

>>57983208
Useless, toss it.

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if my t430 panel has no camera, what is this thing then? is that a mic? or the wifi antenna?

>>57983017
>>57983229

nothing low quality with the r series, it uses a t series chassis with cheaper cpus

>>57983208
expresscard

>>57983907
mic

>>57984003
please, from one anon to another, tell me how to remove the mic

i don't want to end up unplugging something else like the led backlight

i've already gotten this far so i'm not a retard, i'm just not sure where to remove

is the mic one little cable, or is it this whole green thing?

Is there anyone who have a EGPU for thinkpad (especially T420). where you keep you EGPU? I want to use an external monitor so I need to use nVidia graphics card? (i choose a GTX 1050. will i5 processor bottleneck this card?) and if you have got some protips for me you can tell me about it

>>57982015
T420 with hdmi adapter and expresscard usb 3.0 or 3.0 docking

>>57984238
This

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Am I missing something or is the one on the right a retardedly bad deal?

Is the 1366x768 TN display acceptable on the X240 or should I spend the extra for an IPS?

>>57984420
That 512GB SSD is probably what's throwing the price.

If I was looking for a Lenovo, would you guys recommend the Thinkpad T460, or is the 460P/S or 560 better?

I need something that will run Microsoft Office, and some accounting software, along with lots of battery life, that's why the 50-70 whr battery looks so appetising.

What is the selling point for Lenovo's, just their ease of working on and replacing parts? Their computers are priced very high for 4gb of ram... $1151 for 4GB with an i3 processor and 500 gb hybrid drive, here in Canada :(

I want the 1920x1080 screen, 8gb of RAM, i5, and I don't need any graphics.

Is it cheaper to just buy a 4gb RAM model and upgrade the other RAM slot myself with 4gb more?

Why does their base come with 4gb, if I added 8gb stick, will it work well at 12gb?

Anyone done the xx20 keyboard mod on xx30? Do I really need Dremel to flatten the nubs?

253€ for T430
8gb 180 SSD, HD res, Dock, Lenovo backpack, good condition

worth? eurofag here

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>>57982474
>where are you, I am assuming northwest europe?
Newfoundland and yeah thats OC fanks
right outside of St. John's harbour


newfoundland is pretty norwayish, we got a comfy fjord (this pic isnt OC)

>>57982432
yeah, i feel the the thinkpad's dated aesthetic and design is one of the largest things it has going for it so they really shouldn't fug with it

>>57982526
this is true

>>57984238
yeah, i was just wondering if there was a decent alternative with those but I'll probably end up doing that

>>57985402
already talked about the t430 vs t420 up here, if you want to see
>>57982015
>>57982215
>>57982363
>>57982432
>>57982526
>>57984238

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BE HONEST

How usable are old Thinkpads like the X61, X200, X201? Real world usage and not installing some lightweight Linux distro and then coding in a text editor.

I just want to browse the web and watch youtube videos in 720p. But even on a modern laptop some sites load slowly because they are full with interactive menu elements, embedded videos and images.

my T43 (lol) runs fine but the fan randomly starts making loud noises and restarting reports a fan error, letting it sit for a few hours seems to fix it though curiously the cpu doesn't seem to heat up when the noise starts, am i looking at a failing fan or BIOS issues? running tahrpuppy btw

>>57986411
x201 user here
You'll be fine
Install any Linux distribution for better performance than win7

Do t410's have an ultrabay slim?

>>57984485
its not the viewing angles, but the low res that gives eye cancer

>>57986662
I think low res can be comfy.

Just picked up a t420s for $50 today from goodwill. Thought it was pretty damn good for the price. Beautiful machines I say.

>>57986945
>Just picked up a t420s for $50
lucky fuck, does everything work well?

>>57986945
what the fuck thats a steal

>>57986945
What goodwill sells computers?

>>57986945
crazy deal, everything work?

>>>57987067
I know right! It didn't come with RAM or a HDD. But besides that it turns on and everything (I have spare parts lying around that I put in.) Going to be installing Arch or funtoo on it sometime soon.

>>57987142

I'm so glad I decided to stop by there today. Haha

>>57987158

You'd be surprised. I've picked up a t40, t400, t410, x60, t60, iMac, all for less than 50 bucks a piece at this one. Great stuff! My goodwill always has new computers in. They even had a large stack of PS1/2's the other day. 3 macs from the 80's, and a multitude of thinkpads. (Older ones that is)

>>57987250
Didn't come with RAM or HDD, besides that yep! Gotta buy a charger for it. Loaned it to one of my friends who probably won't give it back...

Does 1600x900 display from T420 work with T430 aswell?

What are some ESSENTIAL thinkpad accessories?

>>57981307
That the only odd key you noticed?

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>>57987250
>>57987158
>>57987142
>>57987067

Pic of the beauty. Cleaning her up currently.

>>57987293
>you'd be surprised
All the goodwills I've been to send their computers to an online vendor

>>57987371
upgrade your shit to the nines then get a dock and some sweet peripheals

Anyone know how much it would cost to build a t601IF with 1080p IPS?

>>57961258
What's with this shitty battery life? I have a t420 and acpi reports about 4 hours, even on lower brightness. I am using the 55++ (6 cell, right?) battery, and my conditions are ssh sessions and firefox tabs. acpi -bi reports 84% battery health, would another of the same battery give me a good amount of battery life, or is the 9 cell the better option?

>>57987578
Use powertop or tlp, or both. Check the maximum capacity and compare it to the design capacity.

>>57986411
x200t user here, 720p video runs completley fine for me. gaming isnt that great so all i play are very old games like morrwind via openmw( 800x600 runs around 50 fps ). not very good for gaming.

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I'm looking to buy a mouse to go with my T420, I'm deciding between the Lenovo Laser Wireless mouse and the ThinkPad Precision Wireless mouse. Does anyone know the difference between them? They seemingly have different sensors, which one is better? They are the same price

Pic related is the non-thinkpad version

How are the L520 and E520 models?

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took me an embarrassingly long time, but here it is

T430 with 1600x900
i realize its just a screencap but if any of you know what its like to go from 1366x768 to this, it feels fucking amazing

the panel i switched it with also had no camera, just a mic, and i left that disconnected

take that cia niggers

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>>57987829
And this is the Thinkpad mouse I mentioned

>People on /g/ seriously think the pre-chiclet Thinkpad keyboards are mechanical
Should we tell them?

So if my budget is around 250-280, what's the best model to get? I have a good desktop, I just want something decent and portable.

>>57988110
420, 430 or x200

>>57988366
Is the 420 the last model without a chiclet keyboard?

>>57988436
yes
you can install a t420 keyboard in a t430 and then flash an update to the EC to make it work properly

>>57987578
9 cell is nice if you carry the laptop around, it's like a handle

>>57987697
How do your get openMW to play sound?

please help a guy

i swapped the 1600x900 from my 2nd t430 and put it here on my original t430 that had a 1366x768 screen, i posted here >>57987851

i didn't take the LCD out, but instead I swapped out the entire panel assemblies

now when I shut my lid the laptop doesn't go into sleep mode. Ubuntu 16.04, all stock settings

anything I can do? please help

>>57984157
The GPU stays on the desk attached to the monitor. The CPU bottlenecking won't be horrible. Use expresscard with T420, avoid mini pci-e.
If you don't already have the T420, T430s with thunderbolt would be much better.

>>57986411
Using an overclocked X61 with Windows 8, 720p youtube was fine. Some websites lagged if they went overboard with the javascript, but you can't blame the computer for this.

The experience of actually using the computer is way superior to newer models. Using 4:3 after sustained exposure to 16:9 is a drastic improvement.

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what do you guys think of the yoga 14? I just bought one.

>>57988758
plug the microphone back in

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I would buy a small fortune for a modern motherboard for my 15" 4:3 T60.
Why did it end like this?

>>57989220
late reply but thanks a lot anon

you saved me quite a bit of head scratching

>>57989251
Last I heard, that was the next project in line from the guys who brought us the X62. Soon, brother.

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>>57989956
easy access to 51nb's stuff from within the US when?

Needed to use the disc drive on my retired X60t's dock. Damn I miss this thing. The 1400x1050 display is so comfy. I wish we could have something like this with modern hardware.

>>57978751
That doesn't really answer my question though.

>>57978751
i mean what do you expect, are we all supposed to go back to 2006?

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>>57965831
>Well this goes into a bunch of things but yes I know who this person is but he's a dangerous thug.

Is his name Deebo?

>>57990000
It's really not that hard to communicate with Hope and order one.

Hey /g/uys, I'm setting up a T420 for my sister, and there's an "unknown device" in device manager. Anyone know where to get the driver?

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what is the absolute smallest thinkpad? x200s? i'm currently using an x61t but i want something even tinier

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>>57991574
PC110, never released outside of Japan.

>>57991757
change in criteria: smallest thinkpad with at least a core duo

>>57991779
You're no fun.

Toss-up between the X61s and X200s/X201s, then. That's up to personal preference between 4:3 or 16:10.

Is any thinkpad outside the T series worth getting?

>>57991814
i don't dislike old old thinkpads, i just need to be able to do work on it without pulling my hair out
but thank you

>>57991847
X and W series (now P series, and formerly T**p) offer the same quality as T series while filling different niches.

Is the T530 worth it? The keyboard doesn't look very good.

I have a X220 for some reason when it's plugged in the CPU throttles or something and it's really slow. But when it's on battery power it runs perfectly. What can be causing this?

>>57992108
even though they're chiclets they still have a lot of keytravel and feel just about as nice as the older style keyboards. i'd go for it if you don't mind the layout, plus you can always switch to a t420 keyboard if you really hate it for some reason

>>57991574
You could go with something like an x130e. But you may be stuck with an AMD processor.

T420 for 260 (i5 2410m)
or
T530 for 350 (i5 3360m)

Which?

>>57965226
looks nothing like a bento box

>>57987861
I've never wanted to cum on a mouse up until today.

>>57992829
t420 imo

>>57992829

Processor is irrelevant. I have an i7 quad core in my 420. Zero problems. $99 shipped from fleabay.

Myr T430 charger is fragged and I'm not sure if it's the cable or the port but the end wiggles around too much in there.

Bump limit has been reached. Bye!

Thinking of getting an x220 for music production using ableton, watching movies and regular internet browsing. I found one for 130, should I go for it?

>>57988863
>The GPU stays on the desk attached to the monitor.
So I can't run nVidia GPU on built-in monitor? I heard about Optimus technology in Intel integrated graphics and I also heard about it can run on built-in screen with small bottleneck.

>>57994192
You can do this too. It works fine.

>>57987851
how do you find the screen and it's anglels ? i have the t410 with 1440x900, but the angles are close to terrible

>>57990000
>51nb's
what exactly is the deal with them ? sorry, im not often here.

This thread has reached bump limit, meaning that it has ran its course and is now drawing to a close. Please make a new one to continue discussion. Thank you.

>>57994354
Nah, it's still being bumped for some reason

Dunno why though, as it's beyond 300 replies. Has japmoot changed something?

>>57994354
>>57994363
it's been 310 for a while now, so this will be the very last bump
>>57994339
they're a china special company that does some cool (but ghetto) mods to thinkpads
one is the x62 where they crammed some random laptop mobo into an x61 case
or the x320 where they put a 13" ips 1080p screen in the x220

>>57994451
>310 rather than 300
>dat 3.33% difference

The point of which being what exactly?

[captcha: roulez 10300]

>>57994451
>cool (but ghetto) mods
that'd be cool,

i'd never leave my t410 if i had better cpu(= battery life) and some slightly better display.

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>mfw last track number update for my HD+ display was 10 days ago

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AX32B0Q/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_zyruybNV1T1P2
Will this fuck my shit up? Should I go with the 23 buck Lenovo brand instead?

>>57994847
never buy ching chong
get a used one from ebay for $20ish
never trust anything that says its new and it's cheap then it's a chink ripoff

>>57979698
that's what it looks like underneath.

>>57976498
That guy's still doing it? I remember seeing it years ago. back when I was considering a frankenpad. No point in getting one that'll die.

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Fucking finally. After weeks of fingering the middle mouse rubber button cap after the hinges snapped off my middle mouse button I have got it replaced.

First replacement looked like an xx20 series button and was advertised as such, but the clasps on the back were displaced about 0.5mm vs my original and the hinges too long. So that didn't fit.

Then this silly cunt sent me a trackpoint clit when I asked for a middle mouse button.
He assured me "I JUS LET U KNOW THE KEY FROM X220 (100%)".

He was nice enough though and sent me the actual button after this when I told him.

I get the button and it looks like it's from an xx30 series FUCK.
Somehow though, it actually fits. Pretty happy after all this now as it's comfy as fuck. I much much prefer the flat button. Never liked the weird hump.

>>57993942
I think that's a fair price. Hopefully you get the IPS display. Good luck finding out though unless you either have a savvy or cooperative seller. Personally I wouldn't waste the money if it were the other panel.

is 540 a good price for an X1 2nd gen?
i7 4600u
256ssd
8gb ram

>>57991905
Just get an X220 then. It's small and powerful.
I'm a software dev and I do pretty much all my work on it in relative comfort despite the 720p shit.

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>>57994339
this is how X320/X330 looks

>>57996161
Does anyone actually have one of these? All I've seen is this same stock photo over and over.

Will I regret this getting this model without a trackpad? I was thinking about giving it to Mom for Christmas if I don't like it. Never used the nipple before. Do you guys use it often?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X200-Laptop-Tablet-Core-2-Duo-4GB-Ram-160-GB-Windows-7-Office-/252680892767?hash=item3ad4f4715f:g:rKQAAOSw4GVYUGdt

how do I clean my thinkpad on the outside?

>>57996338
dunno
here is the thead on redneck - tehre is more info and photos
reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4wf7uc/51nbs_mods_internationally_available_x62_x330_fhd/

>>57996465
alcohol ? random plastic cleaner? monitor cleaning kit? airduster?

>>57995435
Mine on my X220 has also snapped, currently held down by other means, it moves around though and I will buy a new one soon

Does an X230 palmrest fit on an X220? I wonder how flat mouse buttons would feel

>>57995176
You scraped off all the black rubber coating?

[CALLE]

>>57996161
i like it