/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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My T420s arrived today and it looks completely new. Has not any sings of wear and tear.
But, it makes a squeaking noise. I think it comes from the fan. Is this normal and can I do something? Don't know now it it will annoy me.

I'm putting money away for the 2017 models. Hopefully we will see a Retro Thinkpad with a classic keyboard.

Is Dell Latittude E7240/E7440 good?

>>58025278
>chiclet keyboard actually has better switches
very very arguable, I'd even go as far as to say it's false.
Besides, the biggest issue is the layout

>>58026012
I disagree. Actually I feel that the switches are more responsive and have better feedback.
Anyways, isnt an issue in X230, you can do the mod and install the old keyboard and call it a day.

>>58026091
yeah but that minor pricegap becomes something of a more noticable gap

>>58026115
Good point.

>>58026115
It's not in USD but the price gap is $46 if converted in USD. $221 for x230 and $175 for x220

>>58025948
I'm skeptical that retro Thinkpad will work out, but at this point I'd be happy if they just released a laptop with a taller screen + thunderbolt.

>>58026156
Not to be rude, but I didn't ask?

>>58026197
Just want to inform you just in case you are wondering.

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Bit of a PSA - X230 middle mouse button is compatible with the X220. I discovered this by accident but if you're like me and hate the hump thing then this is a great quality of life mod.

Also. What's /tpg/'s favorite mouse clit? I think the cat tongue feels cool but the inverted dome is the most comfortable.

>>58026222
?? that image was correctly orientated before upload.

>>58026214
Yeah but my point is that it'd be more expensive if you had to switch out the keyboard

>>58026244
The keyboard is around $45 if converted. I'm more concerned about performance and graphic rather than keyboard. But I type alot to.

I won a auction today, I was the only bid. €120 for a x220, sounds really good to me.

No idea about the shape it's in other than working, but others said it was good from the same seller.

>>58026256
Yeah if I was concerned about performance I'd buy a new laptop, or maybe a W-series.

what's the general opinion on t430s ? i have a t410 now which sits 90% of the time on a dock, so the less ports wont be critical. How much battery should i expect, are they much hotter ?

>>58026273
But all of them have that annoying touchpad that often get in my when typing and most of them are not ergonomic. They don't have trackpoint either

>>58026297
the best thing about t430s is that you can get one with thunderbolt.
the build quality and display are worse than the 410.

>>58026316
w-series?

>>58026297
As far as I know battery life is duff and the CPU is soldered.

If you sacrifice the ultrabay slot for a battery you can push the longevity. I'd be interested myself to hear from someone who owns one to what extent this extends the life.

Also thunderbolt.

Just got a T410s and the fan seems to make a thumping noise. I am going to take it apart when I have time and check everything out, but what's the likely solution to this?

>>58026356
W series is rare as fuck in my country. Not to mention they are fucking expensive if they are available.

>>58026339
didn't think the display could be worse than the t410's...at least i can get it pretty cheap.

>>58026357
my t410's battery life can barely hit 4hrs, so everything on top would be a plus

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Any one here using the t520? Thinking about buying it. Is it any good?

How do I into Thinkpads as a Brit?

>>58026477
She doesn't even look like the usual SJW type (no horribly dyed hair or huge glasses) :(

>>58026522
Check your local online retailer.

>>58026231
4chan sometimes has problems with exif rotation, perhaps because the exif is scrubbed.

>>58026572
your sjw radar is fucking weak

>>58026674
probably

>>58026572
Apply yourself friend. Her power level is strong.

>>58026572
That's because she's not 20 years old.

>>58026700
>>58026753
What am I missing? Assuming you just walk past this person on the street and don't know anything about them, how would you know it's a SJW?

>>58026522
http://www.ebay.co.uk/
amazing
also this >>58026589
keep an eye out for local deals, UK equivalent of craigslist or whatever

>>58026820
Hard to describe. It's kind of like gay guys and gaydar. You just pick it up. I think there's probably some evolutionary component that predisposes people to those mentalities, so maybe that's expressed phenotypically and we tune into that subconsciously.

Looking at her though... I dunno man. Lip stick, mouth shape and her expression trips my SJW alarm.

>>58026864
Hmm... That kind of makes sense. I did notice the bright red lipstick the first time I looked at that picture, but it didn't activate my SJW radar.

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just bought this dankx230pad in almost mint condition except for one thing, this cover is a fucking piece of plastic glued to the fucking case. should i return it? bought it refurbished and they have wide stock.

>>58026935
They are sold for 2 bucks/10pcs at ali or ebay.

>>58026166
The old style of keyboard is crucial for me to spend money on a laptop. i use a dell e5570 from work and I loathe the keyboard on it.

Got an x220 with an ultrabase for $150. It's really nice so far, but its a model with a tn screen. Is it worth it to try to upgrade to an ips screen?

>>58026477
T520 owner here. It depends on what you want, really. Here are a few points about the T520 for you.

Pros:
It's a laptop that does laptop things.
It has a nicer screen than T420/T420s.
It supports up to a 1920x1080 wide gamut screen from the factory. Still a TN, but a damn good one.
1600x900 panel is decent. Not particularly great, but not as horrid as the mess that is the T420's screen either.
It supports higher specs than T420 from the factory, including quadcore i7 models. T420 can be retrofitted with these, though.
Feels like it could feasibly be used to bludgeon someone to death.
Would probably break the ground if you drop it.

Cons:
It's a bit heavy. I bring mine on my daily commutes to work and sometimes I wish I had a T420s instead.

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>>58026970
51nb has totally beaten them to the punch several time now. T70 and X210 on the way as well...

>>58026477
These people should be shot.

>>58027153
Yes, but I cannot purchase that, now can I?

>>58027191
Sure you can. How do you think I got one?
Money can, like, be exchanged for goods.

>>58027153
Damn. First time I'm seeing this mod. Cool as fuck. Wouldn't mind one for my X220. I'm aware there's a nice screen mod for the X220 at least.

>>58027222
the screens for the X6x are even nicer. 4:3 1400x1050 AFFS.

>>58027214
Would you be kind to provide a source, anon?

>>58027229
Yeah, I would appreciate the extra verticality when I'm coding to be honest.

My only minor gripe with the pre-X220 Thinkpads are the escape and delete keys. It's small, but I really appreciate the larger keys. I thought that was a great design choice.

>>58025948
I wish I had any surplus income to speak of because I know for a certain that in 5 years I will have wished I could support this direction

>>58027231
I bought directly from 51nb through a chinese forwarder FSC.
Boards here: https://weidian.com/item.html?itemID=1969558724
Complete laptops here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe48cWML5SV61Nfhbc6phu71qXmMCqHO2pJb14MB_5QfRGKEw/viewform?c=0&w=1

>>58026522

Ebay, Anon. You can snag some great deals on there. I got my X60s for £60 including delivery. It is in very nice condition.

Anyone have any experiences with latitude E6320? One of my friend's workplaces is selling a few of their old laptops and that one seems kind of nice, though I know next to nothing about them. Might be able to pick it up for about 140 euro or so, comes with 8gb ram, 500gb hdd and a I5 2540M

>>58026820
The "retro" lipstick and frames are a hint. Betty Page haircuts and Harry Potter glasses fall into the same category.

It's sort of the female equivalent to 1920s haircuts and waxed moustaches - ironically old fashioned. The thought process probably goes like this.
"It's ironic because we're so modern and progressive we could never be mistaken for reactionaries or those horrible poor white people who work with their hands."

Second hint. Stroppy expression, challenging the viewer, instead of a more open look.

Third, she's kind of malnourished and plain looking, but through her expression and sense of style, seems to expect people to pay attention to her. No humility.

Hindsight is 20/20, but she does communicate a clear "office bitch" look, if not a SJW look.

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>>58021173
Yesterday I got the power manager working and got the battery stats

I still don't understand why it doesn't last more than 2 hours on a single charge

Hey,
I just installed an IPS display I bought on my x220 and while it is an IPS display, the colors seem very grey. What might be the problem?

>>58027821
How do you mean exactly?

OEM battery or third party.
What should i get?

>>58027641
Great observations. I'll know the signs.

>>58027946
OEM

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>>58027938
I took this picture, I hope it is clear enough.

>>58028124
I can sort of see it.

Is that external display IPS?

Does your new IPS panel have good viewing angles? Just to rule out that its not a TN

>>58028124
calibrate the colours.

>>58027735
What is it that you're doing on your computer when you're on battery only?

Also is that battery new? Mine is a 9 cell, came with the laptop I have two in fact, and neither one show same number for capacity and full charge.

>>58028221
I either do stuff in Word or do some web browsing
Sometimes I even watch a movie or something when I'm on the train

>>58028154
The viewing angles are very good, it is clearly an IPS.
The top one is another computer's IPS monitor.
>>58028184
I don't believe that's the problem. My TN monitor looks great.

>>58027821
>>58028124
Not all displays are created equal.
This applies to IPS panels as well. You can try to calibrate your laptop's colours, but I doubt it'll help much on your undersaturation.

>>58027735
Power management/cpu governor settings, perhaps ?
Display brightness ?

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I spilled some coffee on my T60. It now doesn't charge.
I'm fucked am I ?

Also, is the T420 for 170$ shipping included a good deal ?

>>58025935
You can lube or replace fans. Download hardware maintenance manual and read thinkpad forums for info.

>>58026222
How to change the middle mouse button?

>>58027567
Good build quality and the price is right.

>>58029366
Unscrew the keyboard screws that are marked on the bottom with a keyboard symbol.

You can then remove the keyboard by pushing down and forward towards the screen unlatching it for you to lift it out.

To replace the middle mouse button, you'll need something small to pry it off. You need to be careful or else the hinges will snap. It comes off easily enough though.

Once it's off you just seat the hinges of the new button in their place then press down on the front of the button so that it clicks into place.

It should become obvious how to do this as you fiddle with it. I just figured it out as I went along.

If you want a replacement key, search for those people on ebay who sell individual keys off keyboards and ask them if they have the middle mouse button.

>>58026477
The crazy just rolls off that one. Poor self esteem because she's plain as my aging nutsack reinforced by being a complete airhead.

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I cannot figure out where my t42 intakes air. I presume it just sucks in air over the fan, which is right under the keyboard. But theres no way i should be getting 85°c load temps.
Fuckin arctic silver on an exposed die with a perfectly cleaned and polished heatsink.
Ive got it nigger rigged with this fan i had lying around, blows cool air under the laptop
But its still hot

So, good or bad idea
>cut vents into bottom of laptop
>remove parallel port and replace with grate

>>58029730
With the fan im down to 77c
Which is better i guess

On sunday its gonna be -18°f outside, i want to really cold test this thing. What do i need to do to avoid condensation?

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>>58026357
>I'd be interested myself to hear from someone who owns one to what extent this extends the life.
me too!

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>>58029730

bruh It could be your internal VGA that's causing the overheat since I see you use a second monitor. sometimes having a VGA out can drive some GPUs crazy

>>58029880

*internal GPU

>>58029880
nah even without it i would hit 80-90c playing cs 1.6
the fan is keeping it below 80 which im all good with, its just loud as shit now

I was offered a dock for my x220 for €25
I turned it down since it only has usb2, and what's it good for anyways?

T500 with dead battery for 50 euros - good value?

>>58030059
>>58030829
>europoors

>>58027735
>90Wh out of default 99Wh
>240 cycles
holy shit anon. You're fucking lucky.

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hi /g/
How's your day?

also dumping pics of my old thinkpads
pic rel - x230 with egpu

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>>58030914
x230 + SDR integrated into the ultrabase

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I just want a laptop to do schoolwork and emulate Gamecube and PS2 games is the T420 i7 powerful enough for that?

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>>58030939
That was a nice laptop to have. Too bad had to sell it ;_;

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>>58030957
x230 + SAS controller + LTO tape drive

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>>58030975
x230 gaymur edition

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>>58030995
ancient x61 with t7300, 4GB RAM, SSD + HDD.
Sold it to some autismal idiot for $1000. That was like 4 years ago. Kek

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>>58031009
actually 3 years. Fug

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>>58031019
t430 with classic keyboard

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>>58031032
Old x120e guts. Never bothered to upgrade the AyyMD motherboard to Intel i3 one

>>58030957
Why did you need to still it

>>58030939
Whoa, this is truly a beauty.
Why aren't all laptops like this?

>>58031082
I urgently needed monies, and I got a very nice offer for it.

>>58031100
You're kidding, right?
I don't know what I was smoking back then to completely ignore all this interference coming from ultrabase motherboard. This shit was almost unusable.
But yeah, with proper tools it could be done nicely

>>58030914
How about bottleneck and what adapter you used. Have you any problem with egpu?

>>58031139
No bottleneck outside of benchmarks. Every single game was running fine with 100% performance as in a normal desktop computer.
PE4L v2.1b.
I've fucked up one of the hdmi cable vein and had to solder it again. Otherwise no.

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Thoughts? the temps are between C58-68 while watching a twitch stream

>>58031405
It's pretty Desu, familia.

my t430 screen has about 2-3mm of free back and forth wobble on it. Is this normal or should I try to tighten up the hinges/screen assembly?

looking at this t420 right now. I know how to load an OS and was planning on just reusing an old ssd with windows already on it. Is this a good deal or should i keep looking? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-50GHz-4GB-160GB-HD-6389-/172413094195?hash=item28249f0933:g:zcIAAOSwPCVX~B7P

Hey.. I thought you guys said AMT/ME couldn't be disabled without a funky third party BIOS?

My BIOS has the option to turn it off, which I did, is it just cosmetic or just fear mongering about the botnet?

>>58029730
Anon, you keep posting your desk only, I wanna see your garage/workspace you keep posting, like show me the entire room.


Also, is there a difference on x220 screens from year to year? My second x220 is from 2012 the first from 2011, both have TN screens, but one looks to have more PPI than the other, less viewing angles than the other, stronger contrast than the other and more brightness control than the other. It also came with stickers from the UN I wonder if it's some sort of privacy screen that you can't see from the sides.

T420 or T430?

>>58032216
T430, because newer.

If you're low on cash and depending on where you are in the world if you can find a 420 and it's significantly cheaper you may want to consider it. Consider however that battery life on the T420 is shit.

Can any thinkpads do full Plex transcoding?

About to buy a T430, should I get one with backlit keyboard or is it a meme?

Got my t430 in the mail today and I feel like I got boned.

Was listed as a 3rd Gen (which should be Ivy Bridge) i5, 500gb HDD, 4gb RAM. Paid $125. What I got was a 2nd Gen (Sandy Bridge) i5, 300gb HDD, and 4gb RAM.

Before I file a complaint, can I upgrade to an Ivy Bridge i7 or am I stuck on Sandy Bridge? If I can upgrade, I'm not too worried as that's what I planned on all along, but if I can't, this was basically a wasted purchase for me.

>>58032332
Sure, why not.

>>58032486
All the T430 have Ivy Bridge Cpus, are you sure you haven't received a T420? Do you have a chiclet keyboard or an old keyboard?

>>58032645
Chiclet keys, model on under the monitor says T430, checking right now on Lenovo's site to see if it's a T430 or if there's been a board swap or something else detectable.

>>58032662
here

It was actually also listed as having 8gb of RAM, not 4gb. Boy oh boy, can't wait to return this thing that took way to long to get here so that I can try to find another one.

>>58032739
here again

Apparently it is a T430i that shipped with a 3320m which has since been swapped for a 2520m (didn't know that was possible). Considering the swap, hopefully it's possible to upgrade to a qm i7.

>>58027117
no, you'll still get eyecancer with the shitty 768px

I just got a laptop I ordered from lenovo, and the thing already has two user accounts, Admin and WWTE. Brand new. What the fuck? Did I get a fucking refurb unit that wasn't even wiped?

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>>58032027
Here's a pic for proof

How's a German ThinkPad T540p (20BE0087GE) with a Intel Core i7-4700MQ,8 GB DDR3,500 GB SATA,FHD,1080p for less than 400 euros?
The k/b is german, but it can be changed and has scratches on the screen.
Am i getting fucked?

>>58034050
>has scratches on the screen.

It sounded good until you said that. By the time you add in a replacement screen and replacement keyboard, you're getting pretty close to brand new prices, you're over half way there. But you are in Deutschland so that complicates things in terms of supply. I don't know.

I'm looking to buy a refurbished T430 as my old T410 that was gifted to me broke. How can I tell when purchasing if it has the appropriate screen and specs? I only have about $200 to spend.

There's one on ebay I'm looking at that is listed as
>Lenovo T430 14.0" Laptop Intel Core i5 3320M (2.60 GHz) 250 GB HDD 8 GB Memory
Is this fine or can I do better? Where should I be looking?

I have a desktop that I use almost all the time so this would mostly be for travelling.

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>>58033876
Here's a pic of the wallpaper. Am I part of the Chinese botnet now?

>>58026222
>arch sticker

nice touch senpai

>>58034109
Well my target would be to hit less than 700 bucks, maybe adding an ssd too.
So ordering a k/b and a screen costs way less than a new one.

>>58034234
maybe the lenovo guys doing some testing on this laptop in china and forgot to wipe it?

>>58033881
Iirc you also hadda disable VT-D.

>>58034279
>Intel Active Management Technology (Intel AMT), a set of hardware-based features targeted at businesses. / allow remote access to the PC for management and security tasks, when an OS is down or PC power is off.[6][11] Note that AMT is not the same as Intel vPro; AMT is only one element of a vPro PC.

For what its worth, thats on wikipedia, suppose I disable the VT features, which are on the bios as well. Would I still be botnet? Or there's just no way to know because proprietary and no one knows.

>>58034255
>700 bucks

Man... well its your money ya know, a lot of people here and elsewhere and if you watch Rossmans videos even he complains and says the x40 is shit because of trying imitate appel.
My reasoning comes from the amount of money you're sinking into a used laptop, if you can spend the 700 plus a bit more you can buy a brand new x260, the T460 is Eur1100 on lenovo website, maybe you can find it elsewhere cheaper and it is brand new and comes with everything you could want, the E and L models are closer to the 700 mark..

The whole point of the thinkpads is that they're cheap used and when you begin crossing that line where you can pretty much buy a new laptop, I personally begin to question the wisdom of doing so.

>>58034564
eeeh
i tried thinkpads and i really like them, they are sturdy and reliable.
i'm not going to buy a new think as it costs >1000 and its not like you can find even a new e460 with >i5 4gb of ram under 900 euros here.Also a 15inch and numpad is a must for me.

I know for a fact that e-series are cheap weak chinkpads (it's incredible to see how easily can users destroy company-issued e-series l-series and Ideapads. Like shredding paper i tell you, they are that bad)

>>58034713
I don't know why but I just looked at Lenovo UK FR DE

T460 in DE is 1200 euros
T460 in UK is 899 pounds
T460 in FR is 950 euros

is it just because of VAT?? Seems like you can find a cheap supplier in EU and just order a brand new one for the cheapest possible price.

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>>58032100
Theres not much to my basement
Its just boxes of shit, my furnace and my desk

>>58035252
I like it, with the exception of the mold problem there by your window its pretty nice. So you're the fellow with the "snowpad". So you have several thinkpads, can you tell me if there is variation between TN screens over the years? My 2012 model looks different than my 2011 model.

>>58035377
its not mold, just 70 years of shitty paintjobs
you should see my kitchen, instead of using any masking tape they just painted everything blue and gave zero fucks about the cabinetry

as far as tn screens go, i honestly wouldnt know, all my thinkpads are old as dicks so theyre all TFT displays, except for the 380ED which has a FRSTN display

i know that they age poorly, lots of burn in issues and shit like that
its noticeable on my 380ed's screen, the edges where the lights are are extremely white compared to the rest of the screen, internet says it happens over the course of years on alot of TN paneled laptops, alot of chromebook user complaints

i take that back a bit, looking into this more, my IBM monitor i have up top there is a TN display, its alot darker than any of my other displays and seems to be slightly yellowed, like its too warm
max brightness is about the halfway point in brightness for my t42's screen

>>58030995
is that 3 or new vegas?

>>58035522
Oh god... sounds like you had to replace plug in and light switch covers, nothing gets on my nerves more than those suckers painted...

I'll live with this tn panel, its not a big deal. I thought about the IPS panel but... why? It would just shave 20% off of the battery if I want to use this outside and if I'm at home and want a better screen I can just get a IPS monitor.

I think everyone loves your snowpad, you need to post more of it.

>>58025869
how likely is it that I would be able to replace the screen in an x230 with a 1080p one? Whether I can do it myself or have to send it to someone. I have heard things about Taobao, and I do have a friend in China who could act as an intermediary for me.

>>58026222
I actually just changed mine to the one you've got in your photo. I don't like the default one because it gives my finger a callous.

The top of my t430 has handprints and fingerprints all over it just from using it. Are they all like this?

What sort of battery life can I expect with an x220/230 and 9-cell battery? I really want a little linux machine that can go 8 hours without charging

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>>58030914
I think you have the same monitor as me anon

I got a T400, 80 gb HDD and 2gb ram, also got some extra ram with it. Does anyone have any experience with these?

maybe a stupid question but if you nuke a thinkpad HDD will you be able to get the machine operational later?

>>58029730
>But theres no way i should be getting 85°c load temps.
The heatsinks bend easily, and if it's not absolutely perfectly flat against the die, you'll see this.

Even reseating a perfect heatsink several times, you'll see differences of several degrees.

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Yay or nay?

Refurb, W10, 240GB SSD.

>>58038459
I wouldn't

>>58037389
you are not ready to think with a pad.

Last year I had a ThinkPad Edge 11.

The thing went haywire after about two months. Keyboard kept telling the computer I was pressing B. There was a persistent beep, which I think indicated some kind of hardware problem. I was using a brand new SSD hard drive, which I'm still using at this very moment, so that wasn't the issue.
Then again, its battery had already been burnt out, so it had seen some use. But (mid?) 2011 to early 2015 is not exactly a gauntlet, and there are people here using older thinkpads. That experience was not at all encouraging. Did I just have bad luck, or something?

>>58038756
Sounds like a bad keyboard to me. Why didn't you return it?

>>58031032
How hard was that to do? I just got a 430 and would like to do the same thing.

Is it possible to get a "good" thinkpad for $110 or so?

just want one for studying law+vanilla wow

>>58039488
people get 220/230/420/430 for around that on ebay if they're savvy snipelords about it

T500 with dead battery for 50 euros - good value?

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Anybody have any experience with refurbished thinkpads on Newegg? I'm looking for an X230 and they have pretty low prices compared to what's on the guide, so I'm skeptical.

>>58039511
the x220 looks good, worth getting for the $120 mark? im new to thinkpad but the layout looks nice

>>58039727
It's pretty nice, my only gripe with it is the 12 inch screen. If you don't mind that it's pretty much perfect.

>>58038843
It was used, and I was no longer on the same continent.

A bad keyboard doesn't explain the beeping. I think it was a motherboard issue. Eventually I couldn't boot it up at all, despite the hard drive and operating system all being in good order. I can't remember all the details, but I was getting long messages on the TTY screen, accompanied by obnoxious and endless bleeping.

I tried re-using the RAM, but it seemed to have been burnt out. Like I said, none of this is encouraging.

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Does anyone have any experience with the W-series (specifically the w520 and 530)? Been thinking of snatching one of them but want some opinions on reliability. It most likely would be at home but I would possibly bring along to other places. the size and weight isn't a problem for me.

>>58040342
I have a w520 that I use as an esxi server, it's been running great as one.
although the gpu throttles under load, so that may be an issue if you use it a lot
not an issue for me since esxi doesn't give a shit about 3d acceleration.

>>58040026
>A bad keyboard doesn't explain the beeping

Don't know if you've looked through the previous threads. Long story short, my keyboard went bad because I washed it. What happens with a bad keyboard is very strange on my thinkpad.

Won't POST, power button lights up and goes off, light by webcam comes on and goes off. Computer is going on and off obviously.

Another thing that happened with the bad keyboard, when i managed to get it on, x220 would beep as if I was pressing random keys.


So I say, your problem sounds like a bad keyboard.

>>58040342
If you have a working computer, I'd wait, as we are in a transition period. In another year or two, pretty much everything will be USB C.

That said, if you're not gonna be able to wait that long, you could do worse than the W series. It's a very solid laptop.

>>58040445
>I washed it
Why?

>>58040461


>>57921527
>>57966054

>>58040482
What you want for that kind of thing is an isopropyl alcohol spray.

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>>58040557
anon, explain to me why. whats the difference? If you go for a deep cleaning you're going to get it wet, alcohol or water you're still getting it wet.

>>58031032
Why would you make effort to replace the keyboard? The new one is superior. I'm a thinkpad user since T60 and use an old style keyboard at work (USB one with a desktop PC) and writing this from an X230 and I HONESTLY THINK THAT THE NEW KEYBOARD IS BETTER.

>>58040590
Alcohol conducts poorly, a spray can spread evenly without dripping like a wet cloth does,it makes ink stains melt, and it also evaporates quickly. Spray once it from a height, then wipe with dry kitchen roll, and there's next to no risk at all.

>>58025869
just got my T420 and it turns out i got the wrong model of T420. I'm not completely disappointed because i did intend on getting a very cheap laptop. but i got the shittier version of the T420.

>>58040627
Also what the hell am I watching
Is this snuff

>>58040648
Just google x220 water test

Its the same laptop, dude never had a problem. So I don't understand why my keyboard died but it died. But you know what, it's been a while. I may try plugging it in and see what I get now.

>>58035525
>not recognizing vault 34
>sierra madre security uniforms
New Vegas, obviously

>>58039053
About 10 minutes of actual work. Remember to take care of couple of pins on the keyboard's internal connector.
>>58040614
chiclet keyboard is shit. It's missing some keys I need (like drop-down menu button), secondly it's fragile as fuck. When you type a lot (and possibly gaym, which implies using a little bit more force to wsad keys) you can expect these to pop out with damaged handlers. And in such case enjoy replacing your keyboard every 6 months.

>>58040342
Got a W541 32 gigs of ram, 512 SSD, XM processer, the entire package. It's not a heavy as you may think, and it's durable as fuck. I accidentally dropped it on concrete floor.

>>58040644
what? what did you get?
>>58041147
is the floor ok ?

>>58040644
Which config you wanted? What did you get instead?
Seller should pay you for the difference or you should return it

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Best thermal paste for T420?

>>58041368
arctic silver 4

>>58041398
not him i bought cheap chink one can i use it?

>>58041421
you shouldn't

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What to replace my old mint X301 with? Something light and fairly cheap for travelling. X201/220 etc. feels a bit small maybe. Dunno.

Tips?

>>58041468
>core2duo
>2016
Purge

>>58041465
is any differnce?

>>58041475
Not sure which one you got (and what's actually inside this paste) but there is a difference for sure

>>58041474
CPU ain't even that bad but fuck me with the SD card speed like "SSD". Hurts to even watch it update windows.

>>58041497
P U R G E
U
R
G
E

Get i7 IPS x230 with x220 keyboard instead.
>>58030995

>>58041398
Did you mean arctic silver 5 or arctic mx-4?

>>58041492
http://prod.danawa.com/info/?pcode=4555050&keyword=hy%20410
really cheap as shit. that's the only reason to buy

>>58041524
mx-4
>>58041526
it's cheap as shit and it's shit. Don't buy it. You might as well use your own semen instead.

>>58041513
Yeah I guess I just have to think about it. Those are bit small but still doable. What about the carbon then? I really don't need that much power, just watching streams and movies/shows while away from home.
And that bigger resolution really wouldn't mind me.

Thinkpad X230, i7 3520m, 12,5" 1366x768 IPS, 8gb, 180gb ssd, win10 pro 460€

Thinkpad X240, i7 4600u, 12,5" 1366x768 IPS, 8gb, 256gb ssd, win10 pro 660€

Thinkpad X1 Carbon, i5 3427u, 14" HD+ LED 1600x900, 4gb, 120gb ssd, win10 pro 380€

But hey, try to change my mind!

>>58041606
x240 is very nad, especially the touch trackpoint buttons. Also ULV shit CPU.
Same applies to X1 carbon. Shit screen, shit CPU, non-replacable keyboard, dogshit battery life. Pretty bad.

Has anyone tried installing hackintosh on T400?

x230 versus x240
Is there much difference, or is the x240 just newer?

>>58041768
X230 has physical buttons for the trackpoint

Is having a backlit keyboard worth 60 € more?

>>58041841
No if you can type. Otherwise think about it.

>>58041768
x230 has dual channel RAM, which makes iGPU faster than x240 with only single channel.
>>58041841
No. Thinklight is better

>>58041866
>>58041875
I guess you're right, seems like a gimmick and I'm saving some money

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>really want a x220t so I can doodle, and seems more practical to watch weeb stuff since you can turn the screen and stuff
>dislike the way it looks
>love the way the regular x220 looks

h e l p

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>>58025869
hey guys I'm kinda new to /g/ but i saw this in passing and thought you may be able to help. I'm looking through the links for this stuff and have a question, how reliably can any of these run creative cloud? I'm studying graphic design and my current laptop (pic related) woke up like this this morning.

>>58041468
Such a beautiful piece of machinery. I like how X301 tried to be a laptop for CEOs

>>58042034
It is.

>>58041985
>form over function
Just buy an iMac.

>>58041056
thanks anon :)

So I have bought a used Thinkpad L450 for 400€.

Do i have to install anything special after a fresh install of windows 10, like drivers or stuff?

other than GNU/systemD/Amazon/Linux of course

caddy arrived few minutes ago i will post back later
now i can installation ssd

>>58042790
You should check with the Lenovo system update shit software. Just remember to remove it after that.

>>58042832
appreciated, my friend

>>58025869
who has thinkpad's with 34mm express card slots?

what do you use in them?

Are used thinkpads the most bang for your buck?

>>58043276
That's the idea. You might get a slightly better deal for the same specs out of a Latitude or Elitebook, but they are ultimately mere imitators of Thinkpads.

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>>58042029
hello? anyone?

>>58037539
what ive noticed after taking it apart to clean, polish and repaste, is that the heatsink doesnt cover the chipset or video chips, just the processor.

I know its a weak, 32mb low wattage gpu in there, but im wondering if i could fit the heatsink from my R52 inside of it to cover the chipset and gpu

The R52 is never used for anything graphically intensive but has the 128mb gpu inside

>>58042796
continue at the moment
increased speed i use shitty WD Plastic SSD
It's fast as desktop great

>>58043008
external gpu

>>58043008
usb 3.0 controllers
3G/4G modems
eGPU
PCIe x1 adapter (look above - eGPU) but used with SAS controllers and other PCIe devices

>>58043594
>4G modems
where to get those?

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>>58029730
ok, so i figured out where it can easily intake air
it pulls air from behind the keyboard like i thought it would, and along that bottom side of the heatsink
which is blocked by the pcmcia slots

so i removed the pcmcia slots, and then wedged the cover open, you can feel the air getting sucked in
fan makes less noise, outputs more air

so along with cleaning out dust, i repasted and such
now its down to 50-60c under load

pic related is Conquer online, in the market, where i was hitting 85c before
check out those temps now

>>58043008

here is a AM/FM radio and hybrid TV (analog & digital)

https://www.amazon.com/AVerTV-MTVEXMINI-Express-mini-Retail/dp/B002HWRZ0C/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1481991372&sr=1-1&keywords=34mm++express+card+radio

>>58043999
it's kinda nuts how dust alone can fuck with temps. a t420 that regularly hit 95 playing youtube videos wouldn't touch 80 after just cleaning out the fan and heatsink fins. repaste helps even more

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My old T61 Thinkpad is only showing black screen when i boot. I tested the RAM but i did nothing.
What else could i do ?

>>58044295
screen actually turning on or is nothing changing on it?

could be just a dead screen, the cable could have come loose, but if its turning on and only showing black then you'd have a much more serious problem relating to the GPU

if it has the nvidia gpu, riparoni

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>>58043999
first off, calling my own trips

secondly, heres CS 1.6, where i would regularly push 90c

its stable at 68c

>>58044395
screen actually turning on or is nothing changing on it?
>i think the screen is on, its kinda blue but i shows nothing

>>58044554
ops greentexted the wrong sentence

>>58044554
thats bad then
if it didnt turn on at all it would be a screen problem
if its turning on and not showing anything, its a gpu problem

might be rip'd like a beyblade mate
nvidia t61's are notorious for dead gpu issues, some of them crack, sometimes the connections get warped, other times its something inside the gpu itself that breaks

Hi /tpg/ I want to replace a thermal pads in T420 but I don't know what is the thickness of them. Maybe somebody know the thickness and can solve my problem

>>58040389
When you say throttle, do you mean that it throttles the whole system or just the gpu?

>>58044786
>might be rip'd like a beyblade mate
that's sad

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>>58045014
best thinkpad ITT.
Prove me wrong

Why is the 'v' key on my Thinkpad T420 so shifty? It only registers like half the presses I make on it.

>>58045600
you type it too often
stop visiting >>>/v/

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>>58045522

>>58045706
b-but this ain't thinkpad

How do I get my volume buttons to work with i3?

>>58045788
you install windows, obviously

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>>58045804
p... please anon...

>>58045821
or you can install gentoo, if you want.
Windows usually solves all linooox problems

>>58045836
I just want to try using a tiling wm without doing a fresh install of arch

>>58045706
Now for real, that laptop is hot asf, what model is it?

>>58025993
No, I had an E6410 and the processor would constantly overhead. Dell = Lel

>>58045875
Chromebook CR-48

"The First" Chromebook

Not a single sticker, logo or marking on any visible surface.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T450-Core-i5-5200U-2-20GHz-8GB-RAM-256GB-SSD-Laptop-FREE-P-P/201751390949?
How's this? it has even a dock for free

>>58046094
>t450
otherwise, looks like a decent deal on the surface

>>58046215
and why is that a bad thing? the keyboard?

>>58045706
>>58045990
And how does it run? i fell in love with its physical appereance, and i'm needing a laptop for college (cs)

Do you think this is a valid option for me?

>>58046336
oh its a piece of shit
The Atom 1.66ghz N455 is about 1/4 of what my T42's Pentium M 755 2ghz is
It can only do 360p video and stutters alot for a few seconds at the start, its slow, hot and loud

only things good about it are:
>it was free
>i can shitpost from it
>8 hour battery life
>looks cool
>has free verizon 3G until 2020

Besides that its:
>slow
>hot
>loud
>slow
>slow
>just barely able to run the newest version of ChromeOS
>has almost no storage on a 16gb SSD, where the newest ChromeOS takes up 1/4 of that
>limited expansion
>only accepts one retarded speed of ram, wont boot otherwise
>32 bit
>"grippy" plastic coating is a dust magnet
>weak speakers

>>58046246
generaly, everything after the **30 series is considered complete trash

Hey can some one verify this is a IPS, I'm a bit skeptical because all other IPS are priced around £70.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Replacement-LG-LP125WH2-SLB2-Lenovo-X220-Laptop-Screen-12-5-LED-HD-Genuine-IPS-/400739436578?hash=item5d4dee8822:g:R2gAAOSwwNVTvRCr

>thanks

>>58046657
try it out, and if it turns out the seller lied to you, just get paypal to refund you

Just installed tlp on ubuntu for my T420.
lscpu | grep "MHz" shows im running it at 800 even though AC is plugged in. Why is that? I thought he runs 2.5GHz even though he doesnt need it?

I'm going to be studying finance in college next year, can someone recommend me the best modern Thinkpad? I love its aesthetic and practicality. I'm looking for modern Thinkpads and have a budget over $1000. Thanks.

I don't care much about the 2 in 1 or touchscreen shit because it seems like a meme.

will an i5 t420 with 8gb ram and ssd be decent enough for running Windows 7 and photoshop cs6 in a vm? Also how likely am I to get dead/white pixels, and is it more common on the 1600x900?

>>58049035
Also would xp sp3 be faster? All I want to do is use illustrator and ps without dual booting. Nothing crazy and no huge files, just assets for web dev.

Found a T430 with:
8 GB RAM
250 GB SSD + 500 GB HDD
1600x900
i5 3320m

for 320 €, should I get it or is 320 too much?

>>58049094
XP would be smooth but you have the specs to do it on windows 7 just fine

It will work great

>>58049333
With the ssd its a decent deal, definitely on the high end but still good
If its in bad shape, no. At this price be kinda picky

>>58025869
why not change the name to /blg/ business laptops general ? 2nd hand thinkpad have become expensive in places like Europe

>>58049601
this is an american board

Hey anons, tell me how about battery life with 9 cell battery in X220? I bought with x220 with i7 and SSD today

anyone bought from refurb.io or know if they are legit?

>>58050423
Website look like shiet

Shieet boyis

I finally found one hell of a laptop

IBM ThinkPad 380ED for 70€
Should I pull the trigger or would it be worth it?

Anyone know where I can get a cheap E6320 in the UK? Cheers.

Where to get cheap high quality replacements for X220 batteries?

>>58025869

x230 w/ i5-3320m, 8GB ram, SSD, and no damage for $185.
I'd get the 9-cell battery as well, so total cost <$250.

Is that as good a deal as it seems?

>>58052017
keep in mind that you can never change the CPU, if you're satisfied with the i7 then get it. Also find out if it's IPS or not, but you can change that afterwards.

>>58050693
If its in good shape, has the adapater, and a decent bit of ram, yea
Its a more common old school thinkpad, but it really is "the black box" in its purest form.
I got mine for 100$, with adapater and 48mb of ram, in great shape

>>58052070
I'm just looking for something that can go 7 hours on a charge while shitposting and coding. I figure the i5 should be sufficient, no?

>>58046502
lol what the heck. no

What's the going price for the 44++ 9-cell battery?
Should I buy new, or is used OK?

This isn't necessarily for a thinkpad but I reckon you guys would know this shit.

Anyone got a recommendation for a good 802.11ac mini pcie card that will work out of the box with linux (preferably debian 8)?

I have a realtek usb dongle rtl8192cu which is apparently infamously shit, and I have an atheros pcie card I can't even identify.

>>58052949
oh and it would be even better if it also had bluetooth onboard that worked out of the box with debian, but I have a working usb dongle for that currently.

>>58052271
Always go new with batteries.

>>58052208
but yes

>>58052949
any intel card

>>58052017
You can get the official 9 cell from Amazon instead of lenovo's site for like $40

>>58046502
Not trash, not even close. Just not as good.

>>58044411
Limit your framerate.

>>58053489
im only getting about 40fps, its a very weak gpu

>>58041097
>When you type a lot (and possibly gaym, which implies using a little bit more force to wsad keys) you can expect these to pop out with damaged handlers
That doesn't happen. Perhaps control your retard strength tier typing.

>>58027153
Does the X210 have a better fucking screen? If not what's the point?

>>58053553
>Pentium M
Oh wow nevermind, I was assuming it was an X220 or something, ignore me

>>58041097
>and possibly gaym, which implies using a little bit more force to wsad keys
It doesn't imply that at all.

>>58045000
just the gpu
cpu is in like the lower 90s and runs at full non turbo speed

Where do I find original batteries for the X220, if I'm on a third world country?

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Cleaned up my 380ED's top cover
Had 20 years of sticker residue on it
50% alcohol, 40% water, 10% acetone

Also, today is my 380ED's 20th birthday
As it was revealed by IBM on December 17th, 1996

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>>58054252
This thing is just fucking amazing
20 years of use. It was almost never on a shelf. It had an office inventory tag and release sticker, there wrgeere files on it going from 2003 to 2014 when i got it, the battery has shitloads of cycles and still holds an hours worth of charge

A T420 is a pretty reliable, long lasting machine
My T42 is 11 years old and is still hanging on
But 20 years of service, where the only visible wear is a paint chip on an edge and the white edges of a well used screen
IBM must be proud

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Man I wonder what this guy's thinking with this price. Got mine for 160 last year

I am having trouble deciding - do I build a desktop or not? I have some leftover ram, a psu, and a heatsink, but I have been using my t430 with a monitor and wireless kb + mouse for months now.

Using a desktop is more comfortable to me as I have more control and can use more features, as well as swap things out. I don't need a desktop though, it is more of a want

>>58054605
just build one for fun then on the cheap
even if its just to build one and shitpost from it or something

pick up an athlon 5350, ecs am1 mobo, a mini itx case and some storage for less than 100$ total
slap that shit together and go to town

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>>58040342
Got a W520. The thing is overall very solid, although the speakers quit on me a few months back. Apparently this is a not so uncommon problem which can be traced back to a design defect, where Lenovo routed the speaker cable around a metal clip that would chafe away at the wire insulation. Electrical tape sort of fixed the issue but they now have noticeably lower volume. Headphones and external speakers are not affected.

Aside from that, everything is great.

My x230t died and I got a dell e6540 since the laptop would be my only machine for the next two years. 4800MQ with 8790m, 8 GB RAM, and a 1080p screen for $480.

How much did i fuck up lads

Recommended SSDs for X230?

>>58055230
Get a crucial SSD for a cheap upgrade. mSATA if you want to keep the normal HDD or a 2.5 in SSD to replace the HDD. I got a 525 GB crucial SSD for $100 on black Friday

>>58055257
Do laptops use special SSDs or could I just throw my old desktop's SSD in it?

>>58053578
x201t had a great screen compared to newer models.

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my old laptop that i had through college died the other day, and since i only really use it for web browsing these days i figured a cheap thinkpad might be a good replacement. I like the T520, but i'm having trouble finding a used one with the 1920x1080 display. its been too long since i've had a laptop/monitor with anything less, am i going to regret going with something that has 1366x768 instead?

>>58054308
>>58054252
Happy Birthday 380ED!

>>58055314
1280x800.

Yawn.

>>58045706
>tfw no modern guts cr-48

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>>58055100
I'm not worries about the speakers. I hardly ever use them on my Surface or any other computer. I don't do much gaming (except for some older games and semi-recent ones). How does it handle games? Still deciding whether I want the w530 or w520, need to look more into the differences and upgrade paths. My overall plan is to have windows and linux mint installed. Windows for some games, programs, and music making. While Linux Mint would be pretty much everything else. I've tried setting up the audio system on Linux, but it doesn't like to play nice with my interface.

Are Thinkpad tablets any good?
I want to build a workstation for the heavy lifting and have a tablet for the go.

>>58039640
>>58050423
bump

>>58025869
Is it worth buying either an R40/R51 for only 100 AUD?
I found someone on eBay selling one of each for 100 per laptop, not sure if I should get one or which one I should get.
All I'll really use it for is lightweight web browsing.

>>58025869
bump

>Picked up a mini dock 3 (90W) since it was literally just a dollar
>Try it with my T410
>It encapsulates the vents for cooling but the outward air has barely any room to escape
>It just overheats doing light web browsing
What's the fucking point of having a shit ton of plastic that comes up around the side anyway? I'd have to cut it all out to actually use the dock effectively.

Thoughts on the X1 Carbon? Going to be running Windows 10 on it and it will be my first Thinkpad if I do decide to buy it.

What speed is the x220 fan supposed to run at maximum?
Mine is rather quiet and runs at 4398 max. 40C idle temp, 80 to 90 under heavy load (make -j5).
I was expecting it to be louder, barely feel any air coming out.

>>58025869
Jesus fucking christ: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-14-Core-i5-2-50GHz-8GB-500GB-Laptop-Adapter-WiFi-Web-Cam-/361854890219?hash=item54403b70eb:g:NAsAAOSwux5YUu6s
t420, 8g, battery and hd for fucking 140$

>>58058180
Damn, I almost bought the same one for 300 €, this one is cheaper, even with 22$ shipping, thanks for posting

>>58051635
bump

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-12-5-Inch-LCD-Display-For-Lenovo-U260-K27-K29-X220-X230-IPS-LCD-Screen/32610875781.html

What about this one guys? comments are good and the price is good to isnt it?