/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

How do I install Linux on a machine with EFI

>>57988600
>EFI
you seem to be lost >>>/o/

First for Unix is a national socialist creation, commies will deny this

>>57988663
>>57988665
>using political identities

>>57988664
Look man, that's what my Toshiba says when I try to boot from USB

>>57988665
GNU is not Unix.
>>>/osx/

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>>57988663
God damn, will this faggot ever stop?

>>57988696
gibbe my snowflake award, nigger.
>im using lables, are you proud? :D

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>>57988724
dude I was at that lego exhibition.
It was some good shit.

>>57988771
pls go away

>>57988771
>what does your post have to do with OS discussion?
same goes for you, you fucking sperglord. Stop shitting up these threads already.

>>57988771
>why would anyone be proud for simply describing himself in a short and convenient way? you guys aren't able to have in-depth discussions so there is no need for anything but a short label to describe some general ideas/beliefs
chimping out much?

>>57988724
agreed, the subreddit rules state that we aren't allowed to talk about things you don't like

>>57988811
>/pol/tards are so delusional they think their garbage is actually on topic
really stimulates your synapses.

>>57988811
export me="!label"
wew, easy. kys

>>57988828
don't chimp out too hard man. i don't want cops to get blood all over this board

>>57988838
Autist here, this will break because of the !. Use single quotes for strings.

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>>57988828
wow look at this cuck, he's epicly chimping out, TOP KEK!! I bet he thinks he didnt du noffin!

I'm writing a script that outputs useful system information. Does anyone know how to output memory in the terminal in a cute manner? Like 657MB/8GB or something like that? All I know how to do is list it from free -h. But that doesn't look cute.

>>57988858
label-less anonymous poster of imageboard 4chan.org, here
hey

>>57988891
If you want to keep your sanity, I recommend not doing this in shell scripts.

>>57988866
i'm about to call the cops. they'll execute you on site (less-than-hu)man

>>57988891

getmemperc() {
        printf '%s%%' "$((
        $(free -m |  awk '/Mem/ { print $3 }')
        *
        100
        /
        $(free -m |  awk '/Mem/ { print $2 }')
        ))"
    }

>>57988891
>outputs "useful" system information.
You mean like fucking Conky?

>>57988891
Oh, you want stuff/stuff:

free -m | awk '/Mem/ { printf "%dMB/%dMB\n", $3, $2 }'

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>>57988521
Hi I've been having trouble installing kali on my new toshiba every time I try to boot into a live install disk it says "grub error" and then gives me a command line and when I type in help it doesn't do anything ????

>>57989127
Thank you.

>>57989077
It's just for fun/learning.

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>>57989153
>installing kali

>>57989302
So many noobs pick Kali because they saw it on Mr. Robot.

What happened? The thread turned into an empty thread with one empty post.

>>57989318
that's not the issue you shitter

there is no point to installing kali, you are supposed to just put it on a usb drive and boot to it when you need to use the tools

>>57989376
I never said that anyone should install it. I was just explaining why they would choose it as a main OS. It's because they want to be cool like on television.

>>57989348
4chan API hiccup.

>>57988600
Don't use EFI

>>57988600
Most distributions support UEFI out of the box nowadays; if you're installing over Windows, chances are that it's not set up by default and you need to enable it in the BIOS.

>>57988600
>>57989624

Further instructions for various distributions:
Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI
Fedora: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
OpenSUSE: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:UEFI
Arch: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface
Gentoo: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader

install slackware

>>57989785
I did. It was nice. But I wanted newer software.

If I ever need to make a server it will be slackware for sure.

>>57989785
no. fuck off

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so i just got this new warhammer total war game on my arch machine and for some reason the unit models are all fucked up how do i figure out what i'm missing?

Why is everyone telling that they're using Arch? Is it really that good?
I'm a noob still on Mint.

>>57990265
It's a good minimal install OS for if you want to buiild your own OS from the ground up. Other options are Ubuntu minimal, debian minimal, gentoo and slackware. If you don't understand why you'd want to customize everything then don't bother.

>>57989624
I don't even know how to access the BIOS on that machine

>>57989778
What about solus?

>>57990265
It's a meme, it's to get people who don't like arch, and the arch userbase, mad.

Arch is not supposed to be begginer friendly and yet most if not all of the people who writes "btw I'm on Arch" makes very silly questions.

Is it good? Kinda, if you like netinstalls and don't mind to spend some time actually learning what's wrong when you have a problem, you're probably gonna like it, if you want something more GUI based and ctrl+c ctrl+v solutions, you're gonna hate it.

>>57990265
They're proud of installing it themselfes because it doesn't have an installer, that's it.

>>57991199
It's not hard to install and it's nothing to brag about.

is opensuse-guide.org a worthwhile site for learning the ins and outs of openSUSE, or is there something better?

As a followup question. if I wanted to use Tumbleweed over Leap, is there anything I'd want to know in addition to what the guide explains for using it properly? (Assuming the guide is even good.)

>>57991895
What do you need that guide for? What do you want to learn?

>>57992157
Mostly the differences between Zypper and Apt. (I've pretty much used *buntus exclusively.) That, and the steps one needs to take to get the various codecs set up that you'd find in ubuntu but not openSUSE. MP3, etc.

I've had an easy time of test running openSUSE in a virtual machine, but I haven't gotten the extra codecs to work for some reason. The instructions outlined in that guide are easy enough to follow, but the page makes it clear it's working on Leap, which is why I'm wondering if me using Tumbleweed had something to do with it. Or maybe it's just something with the VM itself.

>>57991372
distro is worth bragging,they are effectively the same.

>>57990156
Let me guess, it's developed in unity?

>>57992762
Not him, but no. It uses the Total War Engine 3. It was published by sega though so he may as well have just injected himself with AIDS.

I've been thinking about it for a while now. Should I kill myself?

>>57993055
Follow your leader, stormfag

>>57988521
I'm on a fresh install of Xubuntu and now I can't su in the terminal. When I enter my password correctly it just says "Authentication Failed"

How do I fix this?

>>57993737
Nevermind, I'm retarded. Just had to sudo su.

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Does anyone know how to go about removing the little launcher "a" menu from awesome wm? I've been googling and fucking with my configs to no avail.

pic related

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>>57990156
That's not a war game, THIS is a war game.

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>>57994360
Wow. Nevermind I just figured it out.

How to change DE/WM on PCLinuxOS? There doesn't seem to be a dedicated tool to do that. Apparently if you install another DE/WM's packages then it will then be loaded with X, but what if you want to switch to the other one without uninstalling anything? Slackware has xwmconfig to accomplish exactly that, does PCLinuxOS have anything similar?

>>57990156
>blurry textures & blocky polygons

It was tolerable in the previous decade, but now not so much.

>>57994392
Most distros without a login manager use startx to run whatever's in ~/.xinitrc, or maybe /etc/xinitrc. See if it's using one of those, and ask the arch wiki what to put instead to launch what you want. But maybe Puppy doesn't do that.

On Ubuntu 16 /bin/lua points to /etc/alternatives/lua-interpreter which points to lua50. I could probably just ln -s that to lua53, but is there some way to change the default lua version less manually? There's 7 lua tools in /etc/alternatives, and I don't wanna keep track of that.

>>57994392

Most display managers offer you to choose a session.
Unrelated but top using PCLinuxOS and other shitty downstream distributions. I bet you can't even name one valid reason why someone should use it. On the other hand I can name you at least one which will trump your "zero reasons": being close to upstream.

>>57994576
>PCLinuxOS and other shitty downstream distributions

What? PCLinuxOS is not based off of anything else. It used to be a fork of Mandriva but that's long ago, it has been an entirely independent distribution for many years. Not using systemd is a very good incentive to use it if you want something that's easier to work with than Slackware or Gentoo.

>>57994576
>PCLinuxOS
>shitty

Somehow it's considered a major distribution by Distrowatch. Stay uninformed.
https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major

>>57994623

Apparently you are knowledgeable enough to understand init systems and system managing tools, but you don't know how to change your desktop session. Typical anti-systemd gullible person. Such a person would also know how to search the internet, but you didn't do that either. Which only confirms my claim.

I just checked PCLinuxOS and you're right. It's still an obscure distribution which has no pros for usage by "new users", which it seems to be targeted at.

>>57994707

Distrowatch is the authority on common sense in the Linux distribution world.
I can't even find a website which allows me to browse through PCLinuxOS' packages. So much about how serious it is. There could be though, I'm still searching.

>>57994714
>>57994730
Is it even possible not to be part of the Debian(and derivatives)/Arch circlejerk and not be shat on here?

[CALLE]

>>57994714
>#13 on Distrowatch over the past 12 months
>on the "major distribution" list
>obscure
ok

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CROWDFUNDING NUCLEAR STRIKE ON USB WIFI MANUFACTURERS
>release device XYZ-123 with great Linux compatible chipset
>new revision has garbage chipset, still call it XYZ-123, fineprint "hw rev v2" on the product, not the box
>don't change the product name
Almost all do this, TP-Link, Netgear, ASUS....

I'm going crazy here, trying to find a MIMO 802.11n adapter with good Linux support

The TP-LINK TL-WN822N was awesome (HW rev v1/v2
Now it's garbage (HW rev v3)

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Who here has given (GNU plus) Linux to a normie? What distro did you pick? How did they take it? What problems came up?

I ask since my parents have creaky old laptops running Windows 7, and both are adamantly opposed to using either 10 or a Mac. They asked me recently if they can still get laptops running 7, and I told them no, if they want new hardware, their choices are 10, Mac, or Linux. I suspect they might take me up on option number three.

>>57994914
>GNU Plus
Why would you want to install that bloated garbage on their laptop? Don't you care about your parents?

>>57994945
because I figured if I didn't add that someone would interject for a moment

>>57994914
You realize you can install Windows 7 on new laptops, right?
Just give them (X/L/K)ubuntu, make launchers for LibreOffice Calc, LO Writer, Firefox and the file manager of your choice and there you go. Maybe teach them that .exe files don't do shit and tell them to ask you if they need additional programs so you can fire up a terminal and be all 1337 pro hacker by sudo apt installing.

>>57994970
Why don't you just ignore anyone trying to force their choice of outdated and bloated software onto you.
busybox + musl libc is already a thing and I'm sure there are other alternatives to GNU as well. GNU/Linux is literally outdated and useless at this point in time.

To answer your question though, my parents have used openSUSE without that much trouble. I just preinstalled everything they could possibly need. I guess you could give them any distro which doesn't break too often, kde or mate would probably be a good DE choice. Also you could just install win7 yourself if they can't deal with Linux.

>>57995012
>>You realize you can install Windows 7 on new laptops, right?
Yeah but I figured it'd be nice to not have to worry about them getting malware. Or for me to just be able to ssh in if they got stuck and needed me to fix something, instead of having to have me in front of their machine.

Is it possible to fuck up with the chown command and remove root's ability to read / modify / delete files or change their permissions / ownership, or does root always have access to all files, or at least the ability to change ownership and permissions for _any_ file?

guise is arch just a maymay? or is it actually good?

im flipping between getting debian/gnome and arch/kde

>>57994730
The default repo has 13960 packages currently. From that alone it's pretty apparent that it should have anything a beginning to intermediate user might need.

>>57995068
I don't think that root can possibly be locked out of anything.

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>>57990156
same here, looks and runs like ass

>>57995125
>maymay
>doesn't know what meme means
>thinks a distro can somehow be a "meme"
kill yourself mate

>>57995125
>maymay
At least try to hide your fucking blatant redditry.

>>57995161
>>thinks a distro can somehow be a "meme"
>what is kevinnet

>>57995190
so the distro doesn't exist in the physical world?
interesting.

>>57995161
>he thinks a meme is just an online image

>>57995183
no

>>57995224
>he still can't look up the definition of meme
Just go back mate, you aren't fooling anyone here.

>>57995161
>>57995217
>>57995240
3 retards

Meme: 1. an element of a culture or system of behaviour passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means.

2. an image, video, piece of text, etc., typically humorous in nature, that is copied and spread rapidly by Internet users, often with slight variations.


So installing arch because /g/enitals told you so, is not a system of behaviour passed done.

The word "Arch' is a meme.

>>57995161
>>57995240
So why cant Arch be a meme?

>>57995279
>>57995324
the second definition is invalid and is basically the reddit definition.
the first definition is the correct one but a distro can't possibly be that. there could be memes about a distro like the false meme "arch is lightweight" but the distro itself can't be a meme.
the word arch denotes a distro which has a lot of memes about it. a distro can't be a meme by definition.

>>57995335
lol what a fucking moron you are, just read the definition.

>system of behaviour passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means

So what's stopping "installing Arch" from being a /g/entoomen meme?

When i close my laptops lid its only turning the screen off and not going into sleep mode (can hear the fan heaps).

also when i reopen the lid or when i just turn it on the brightness is always set to max, but changes to min with one button press (than works normally)

Lubuntu 16.10

>>57995366
you are the moronic one here, buddy.
installing arch is a meme
arch itself is not a meme since it isn't an idea or a system of behavior.

>>57995402
Arch itself is a meme.
Installing Arch is also a meme.

>>57995402
Lol what do think i intend to do with Arch if not install it?

A single word itself can be a meme, moron.

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>>57995423
>>57995402

Can I be a meme too?

>>57995423
you must be retarded if you think a distribution of anything can be an idea
there can be a meme about this distribution, but the distribution itself can't be a fucking meme as long as it actually exists, which arch does
there is just no way that's possible
>>57995432
Please don't tell me you are actually this retarded and think that it's the word count that matters here
Here, let me give you its full name - Arch Linux
it cannot be a meme by definition.
Lol what do think i intend to do with Arch if not install it?
Uninstall it since it's a piece of bloated garbage
>>57995437
No, you exist as a physical being so you can only have memes related to you. you can't become a meme yourself unless you can hack this universe

>>57995437
Apparent you can not, according to >>>>>57995402

>>57995443
correction, according to the standard definition of the word "meme" itself

>>57995441
>he still does not know the definition of meme

>>57995450
>>57995335
>i dont like the second definition of meme, so it doesnt exist.

>>57995451
here is the definition i'm using, you retarded piece of shit
read:
An element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other non-genetic means.
this definition prohibits something from being both at the same time - 1) a meme 2) a tangible real life object (Pick 1(one))
>>57995460
there is no second definition of it. a reddit definition isn't applicable in the real world.
if you want to use your make-believe definitions go to reddit.com and use them there all you like.

>>57995451
here is how it works:
4chan:
>memes!
then reddit arrived, unclear about the situation:
>is %s a meme?
then troll copied reddit stupity
>he fell for the %s meme
result:
>%s is a meme
>is %s a meme
>he fell for the %s meme
-> all (additional, new) memes

>>57995474
>Reddit definition of meme

fucking lol, where did you find this reddit dictionary?

when did this become a memeology thread

>>57995493
pretty much this. ("falling for the %s meme", x) and all its forks are pure unadulterated redditry.
>>57995504
on the streets of immigrant infested 4chan aka this very thread

>>57995474
>the other definition of meme must be reddits creation because i dont like it

Kek

>>57995526
i see you're from there as well if you can't see that the reason for me not liking it is because it originated on your favorite website (reddit.com)
Don't stop capitalizing the first letter of "kek" though. it makes your kind really easy to track down

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>57995526
>>there is only one definition of meme because i said so

i found the definition of meme on dictionary.com. It didnt mention anything about reddit.

>>57995551
Might wanna correct that image to say "rebbit" instead of "dank memes"

>>57995543
>he actually thinks the definition of meme came from reddit
>he has an internet vendetta against reddit

fucking kek

>open /fglt/ expecting friendly GNU plus Linux discussion
>instead it's a bunch of kids fighting over epic mey mays
hmm yes very interesting indeed

>>57995576
>he actually thinks the definition of meme came from reddit
no, it looked something like this >>57995493
>he has an internet vendetta against reddit
i have a real life vendetta against them too
>fucking kek
i think you meant fucking Kek there buddy

memes and this retard >>57995610 aside

is arch any good? or should i go with debian?

>>57995600
>GNU plus Linux
We don't discuss trash here. It's either a pure kernel with a command line, busybox/musl libc + Linux or even BSD at this point. GNU-tier garbage isn't allowed.
>>57995616
>sjwbian
>sjwarch
Both steaming piles of shit. Sjwrch edges it out slightly .

>>57995625
>>57988521
>Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
hmm I suggest renaming this thread to "busybox/musl libc + Linux or even BSD" then

>>57995610
>real life vendetta against reddit
>doesnt know what a meme is

Kek.

>>57995639
Yeah, seems like they forgot to rename it. I recommend uninstalling GNU garbage from your system since it's horribly outdated and bloated.
Also using the GNU C standard should be punishable by death.

>>57995644
how many redditors have you hunted down yourself?
zero?

So i ran ubuntu for awhile on a VM. I enjoyed it enough to go through with dual boot with windows. The only problem is when i go through the bios and boot up linux to install it it doesnt give me the option to run side by side with windows. I have two hd my though was to just put linux on one of them but that was a fail. Some kind of error came up to do with not finding an OS. my question is how do i go about partitioning my hd with windows on it so inhave a place for ubuntu. I might be a little vague its been about a week sense i messed with it. Any help would be appreciated.

>>57995845
For what reason?

>>57995845
>quickmeme.com
please off yourself

>>57995845
good post.

>>57995786
You need to reduce the size of the partition windows is in. Defrag your drive first and then shrink it by either the windows partitioner http://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/gg/up/sshot-2009-08-27-15-50-21.png or boot up the live-USB ubuntu and use gparted to shrink it. I would suggest using gparted as windows partitioner sometimes just doesn't want to co-operate

>>57995976
>comes to 4chan
>posts image links

>>57995992
>he thinks this is 4chan

>>57995976
So thats where i was kinda stuck at i had a hard time figuring out how to use the gparted during linux install so i just went back to windows but ended up getting side tracked. Thanks for the info man ill look into it more tonight.

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>>57995992
Yeah sorry, I'm stupid.

>>57995992
Why the fuck would anyone be arsed to download an image off the internets to his disk first just to upload it to 4chins then? Why can't 4chins fetch the image directly from a link?

>>57996016
Unlike windows partitioner (dunno about the newer versions, I've only used the one that came with 7) gparted first makes a list of actions you want to make to the drive without actually doing them so you don't have to worry about having second thoughts midway of doing something, You have to apply the operations after making them.

>>57996058
Windows actually has a way of using temp files. You paste the link into the upload box and then it uploads that image. I just wish I knew how to do that in linux.

>>57988765
looks dope... are legos technology? there should be a lego thread....

>>57996108
>>>/toy/

>>57996088
I tried that long ago in Windows and it never worked.

>>57996129
There's a huge freeze when you do it the first time. I have no idea why it's faster the more you do it.

>>57996058
>not using 4chanx

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Since none of those have repo, nor does devs create packages for it.
Which would be easier to compile and create packages for or sfs files?
Puppy linux or Slax?

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Can I run Edge in WINE?

>>57994914
>Who here has given (GNU plus) Linux to a normie? What distro did you pick? How did they take it? What problems came up?
Tinfoil friend who knew Windows 7 would eventually die and hated 8/10
Set them up with Mint...
They've had 0 issues day 1, especially since they could still play dota, gave them a crash course in terminal (w3m/weechat to get back online/in contact)
>nvidia drivers crashing

Got my mom a new laptop with 10 and she quickly adapted from 7. She's not a huge tinfoiler and as long as everything appears the same there's no problem (Chrome = Internet, LibreOffice = Office).
Otherwise I'd put her on x/kubuntu or something.

>if they can still get laptops running 7, and I told them no, if they want new hardware
Great case of a white lie.
You can meme up and down a river with Microsoft about downgrade rights.

So I just installed Arch Linux. What now? How to display the Arch Linux logo in my terminal???

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can someone explain this meme distro to me? if i want to install on it something like steam or chrome do i have to compile it? if not, then what exactly do you have to compile?

>>57996346
>Chrome
>current year of the lord
>still using proprietary software

>>57994914
>I told them no
Why did you make such a lie?
I'm still running WinXP on HP compaq.

>>57996346
Fact: People who recommend Mint don't know what they are talking about.

>>57996405
it was before people came out of the woodwork about mint being shit

I've been telling him to switch but they're a squater as long as it works

>>57996372
install gentoo

>>57996389
keeps her shit synced across her devices and one centralized account

what you gonna do

>>57996429
i am actually tempted to install it just to write in my resume that i have experience with it. will it impress my future employers?

>>57990353
>solus
don't fall for the meme anon

>>57996509
Gentoo is a meme, it's just like Arch, but with more autism.

>>57990353
https://budgie-remix.org/

>>57996372
you compile everything. you don't have to but it's kind of the point, since it was made to do so for those sweet 5% performance gains. it's not hard in so much as it's just following a guide and have both basic troubleshooting skills and the patience to bother using them.

if you just want something that works without tinkering don't bother.

is it possible to install a distro in a VM. fully configure it and then transfer that install onto a hdd?

I want to install debian on my laptop but I need to follow the documentation and download some stuff while I do. trying to read everything off my phone is giving me a grumpy boner and i'm tired of dealing with it.

>>57996639
How does compiling increase performance?

>>57996402
living without security updates is a bad idea even if you have Common Sense 2017. Which boomer parents often don't.

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>>57996541
Did they just use the BDSM symbol?

>>57996665
The compiler optimises the binary for your specific hardware

>>57996671
>security updates
I use it for writing and printing.
I can't use any OS newer since the hardware doesn't support it, and I can't use Linux since it doesn't fully support the printer, or any printer for that matter.

And even if I wanted to browse most of today's sites is very demanding.

>>57996665
because you pick and choose exactly what is included when you compile. A binary release will usually have everything included, like functionality for a variety of types of computers, of a huge array of features. But when you compile it you get to flag exactly what you want and can exclude all the superfluous shit.

I'm still learning my way around kubuntu but I'll probably give gentoo a crack in the next few weeks when I've got some time. once you get it all setup and running initially it's actually quite easy to maintain, or so I've been told.

>>57996707
So if you go make && make install it wouldn't make a difference.

>>57996737
yes if you don't customise the install you might as well just download the binary release.

you should read the wiki baka

>>57996762
>read the wiki baka
What wiki?
The outdated /g/'s wiki?

I've got a strange problem with firefox. At the moment I am unable to log in to a particular website as the option to log in is simply not there. If I disable all addons manually it remains the same but if I use the Help menu option to restart with plugins disabled it works and I see the option to log in. What is the difference between manually disabling all addons and using the option to do that?

>>57996639
so where do i get the source code for steam?

>>57996769
the dated info is still fine for getting a rough idea of how gentoo/compiling your own shit works.

let me guess, you're an arch user? I know you've been dying to tell me.

>>57996782
are you disabling the addons then restarting the br each time?

>>57996802
I'm whatever works user.
I do have RPi running arch.

>>57996815
Yeah.
Disabled addons manually, restart = same problem
Help>Restart with addons disabled, restart = problem fixed

>>57996839
nice are you a girl (boy)?

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>>57996872
Anon, it's lewd to ask about that.

>>57997106
>text not centered
0/10

>>57997106
is this orange or brown?

>>57997164
It's just linux.

Can I expect to run Linux Mint fine when my GPU is a HD7870? I tried on Mint 17 but the screen flickered and it was not a good experience.

>>57996297
Anyone?

>>57997423
did you use proprietary or open source drivers?

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Reminder we have two threads on /t/ - Torrents

Training videos for GNU/Linux (torrents)
>>>/t/713097
>>>/t/713097

Ported videogames (torrents)
>>>/t/707928
>>>/t/707928

We need a thread on /vg/ for gaymers because year of the GNU/Linux desktop motherfuckers, here is the pasta
http://pastebin.com/BkEwKnmY

>>57997485
(((open source)))

>>57997485
Not sure, tried to use the other one but that broke my system, couldn't boot anymore.

>>57997550
Try the open source ones

How do you force a resolution change in Ubuntu?
It shows that my monitor supports 640 but with Windows it supports at least 1366x768 how do I fix that?

>>57993753
Don't use su anyway, use sudo -i

>>57997608
install gpu drivers

>>57997631
not him but I have intel and when I go to the additional drivers thing there's nothing

I'd like 1366x768 but otherwise I only have 1080p, 720p, and below when connected to my 720p/1366p external TV.

xrandr is weird

I want a distro that is sort of basic like Ubuntu but I don't want the bloat and shit that comes with it, where should I be looking?

Arch seems cool because of the AUR but I'm no where near good enough to install that shit, is Antergos or Manjaro really that bad? Manjaro seems comfy and a lot less likely to break on me

Too many choices

>>57997783
Install Debian Sid

>>57997783
dont fall for the arch meme
uninstall bloat you don't want on your current distro
learn the system and realize that all distros are the same

>>57997783
look into bunsenlabs

>>57988521
Why doesn't every maintainer of GNU software install SE Linux and get their program to work with mandatory access control? That way they would be forced to examine and have a reason for every permission they require?

Then users don't have to be using SE linux to benefit from the added security of the GNU codebase...

>>57997843
>using NSA software

>>57997795
stop memeing me pls
>>57997816
Ubuntu seems comfy and the go to distro for beginners but I just feel like I want something a little different, idk
>>57997841
Will have a look now

>>57997851
But you would just be using it to understand the permissions required by your programs. You don't need to actually use it for anything but developing the code. Then you compile it whereever. SE linux is a good tool for that even if you don't trust the NSA

>>57997862
>stop memeing me pls
Debian is easy to install while being pretty lightweight compared to Ubuntu, which is using Debian as base.

Seeing as I'm going to be studying Data Science at University next year I'm assuming all the work done on ''''big data'''' and machine learning, etc, etc, is all done through Linux based systems.

Is there any particular disto I should get familiar with or should I just pick one and that should cover most? I have a feeling it doesn't really matter and it will be more a case of learning how the different types of software work but I thought I might check just incase

>>57997880
I've heard that about Debian but when I googled "Debian Sid" it starting going on about unstable/testing so I assumed I was getting memed

>>57997903
Debian Sid is actually Debian Unstable, which is the rolling release version, comparable to Arch, which is also rolling.

>>57997933
Ah, I see. Does that mean Debian Sid has its own version of the AUR, or does it just mean that packages within Debian Sid's repository will be available to update as that happens?

>>57997959
the only reason arch has a user repo is because the devs are lazy useless shits

What is better arch anywhere or architect

>>57997959
Of course it doesn't have anything like the AUR.

>>57997985
Installing it on your own lazy shitter.

>>57997783
why not just an ubuntu netinstall?

>>57997974
fair enough
>>57997990
>of course
well it wasn't very obvious to me was it

>>57997886
I recommend fedora mate spins edition or ubuntu mate if you'd rather be debian based

>>57998000
Yeah but if I could get the same result with a graphical install why would I waste my time?

>>57998019
>fedora
found me serious business snowflake

>>57998019
>mate
Just no

>>57998030
You don't get the same result. Alle these Arch installers change additional stuff.

>>57997985
Oh look, another kid falling for the Arch is cool meme.

>>57998030
You don't get the same results, and seriously, the hardest parte of the installation is the partition scheme, which is preety fucking easy (and fast) if you use cfdisk instead of parted.

>>57998031
you what?
>>57998032
one thing wrong with mate?

>>57998030
Because using and installer is nothing that you can be proud of. :^)

>>57998078
what's not?

Wait wait, Arch is easy to install, but when installed, it's something one can be proud of?

>>57998085
who the fuck gets proud from installing anything?

reminder that arch is trash and shouldn't be used.
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

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>>57998089
literally nothing except the shitty default 2 panels. Get rid of the second and put everything on top panel and customize the keyboard shortcuts and fonts

>>57998030
you don't understand, you don't install arch for yourself, you install it to show everyone on the internet that you did
using an installer makes your epeen shorter and actual arch users will laugh about you

>>57998139
Nobody will know it if it doesn't change the logo like Antergos.

>>57998151
i solved this by doing

screenfetch -D Arch

just werks

>>57998078
> one thing wrong with mate?

Besides being a poor man's gnome2?

>>57998078
>ugly as fuck
>windows-wannabe
>just an xfce clone

>>57998167
Noice, thanks buddy.

>>57998184
It's actually rich man's gnome2.

>>57998208
HAHAHA, no

What is the best tiling window manager which is feature rich, but not bloated?
i3 for example lacks of lots of features I discovered with other wms, awesome is too bloated for my tastes, is there anything inbetween?

>>57998273
How about you specify the features you want first

>>57998273
how awesome is bloated?

>>57988521
How do I install graphics drivers on Ubuntu MATE?

>>57997617
This

>>57998424
there should be "additional drivers" or hardware or something like that in the system menu i think?

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>>57988521
I have opened the port in Firewall but it still shows that the port is closed. What do?

>>57998448
Yes, there is. But where do I get the drivers from?

>>57998526
check your router firewall config

>>57998526
do you have to restart firewall? you have to do that on fedora and red hat

>>57998526
I think this functionality is broken cause my Transmission client also reports the currently used port as "closed" yet I'm currently seeding at 1.02MB/s

Check the "pick a random port every time Transmission is started" box.

>>57998546
do you have "contrib non-free" in your repos.conf

>>57998546
>>57998586
sorry wrong distro its /etc/apt/sources.list

>>57998586
Laymen talk, pls

>>57998611
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
I dont know I'm probably wrong thinking of debian

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>>57998586

>>57998559
I don't have a router... I am currently on mobile data

>>57998563
I did that and then rebooted my system; still doesn't work.

>>57998564
I'm not connectable on private trackers that way.

>Check the "pick a random port every time Transmission is started" box.
How do I configure my firewall to cope with changing ports, then?

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>>57998632
>How do I configure my firewall to cope with changing ports, then?
open them all of course

>>57995432
Is manjaro also a meme?

>>57998649
arch* and anything based off of arch* is trash and should be avoided at all costs.

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>>57998625
Actually, I have one proprietary driver enabled. But it's not graphics driver.

How do I add a graphics driver there?

>>57998655
Alright, I thought it wouldn't be a meme since it wasn't created by the same people that made arch.

>>57998659
what is it nvidia? can you just apt search nvidia then apt install what you find

>>57998659
If your device is not there it just means it's not supported by the manufacturer.

If your GPU is AMD it's to be expected. They abandon their proprietary drivers after like 2-3 years.

>>57998659
Why the hell would you enable nonfree cpu updates?

>>57998710
why the hell wouldn't you?

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>>57988521
so getting ready to do the post install and security for arch. not sure what should be done first.

im thinking grsec and iptables... could be wrong. what does /g say?

*pic kinda related

>>57998702
>>57998704
It's actually integrated Intel graphics.

>>57998710
Why? What can go wrong?

>>57998720
Because you don't need them and it's a security hole. You allow literally who to put code on your hardware.

>>57998747
>It's actually integrated Intel graphics.
Buddy drivers for Intel graphics are open source and already in your kernel. You don't need to install shit and all the features your GPU supports are already working

https://01.org/linuxgraphics

>>57998756
isnt that what the aur is all about.

>>57998747
>It's actually integrated Intel graphics.
I've never seen drivers for that on ubuntu

>>57998756
lmao, Intel already has full access through the intel management engine you fucktwat.

>>57998738
One is a kernel patch, the other is a firewall which you already should've been running.

grsec is nice if you can support it.
But you're using arch so i guess you have loads of free time on your hand.

anyone using tor/trans here.
can u access 4chan when ur torred?

guys if I plug in a UART to an embedded system running linux, should it appear under a /dev/ file?

>>57998747
Stop installing stuff you don't need. Vanilla linux drivers handle integrated intel graphics just fine.

>>57998788
Tor is banned from 4chan due to abuse.

>>57998788
if you make your own exit node otherwise the known one's are all banned due to history of shitposting.

>>57998769
But my font rendering is shit.

And the whole screen kinda looks stretched out horizontally.

>>57998798
All proxies are banned, this includes proxies your created yourself.

>>57998785
k so iptables first, then grsec. and then work on the other minor hardening.

>>57998738
selinux. It's hard enough to figure out how to get shit past with full root access

>>57998804
Fix your font rendering (fontconfig) and your resolution (xrandr). Stop installing drivers in order to fix unrelated things.

>>57998804
All the screenshots you've posted look fine including font rendering

>>57998820
so are u saying go with selinux and not grsec?

>>57998798
really there is a problem with shitposting on 4chan? dafuq who would of beleived

Only 2 nonfree programs left.
Is /fglt/ proud of me?

>>57998869
Get rid of both.

>>57998869
no you'll have to install arch and get your whole DE under 50 mb and only program in c. and remember to use as many pointers as possible because they're so cool

>>57998794
It was installed by default. I didn't change anything.

>>57998901
autism

>>57998825
Meh, it looked better on Windows.

Or is it the way things are on Ubuntu?

>>57998823
So the default apps included in Ubuntu for those purposes won't work?

>>57998951
>apps

>>57998941
Yes thats the way thing are on ubuntu. big ugly fonts. Go with red hat based instead

>>57998959
Found the Fedora babby who is too stupid to configure anything but feels somwhow cool for not being an Noobuntu babby. :^)

I want to switch to Linux. These Distros are what I'm rooting for?
>openSUSE
>Mageia
>Sabayon
>Manjaro
>Debian
>Fedora
Which one should I install?
openSUSE seems to be pretty user friendly, since it has one of the best (graphic) package managers

>>57998959
Isn't that a server OS?

>>57999029
Debian.

Resist Manjaro at all costs.

>>57999029
Ubuntu

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>>57999029
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57999029
read the sticky

>>57999029
Ubuntu

>>57999029
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>>57999029
install gentoo

>>57999102
Might as well add https://budgie-remix.org/ to the list of Ubuntu flavors to calm the solus shills

>>57999102
>Arch is a distribution known for its KISS policy and The Arch Way. Known for its rolling release and bleeding edge packages, it uses pacman as its package manager, which is very simple to some users. A base install of ArchLinux takes less than 800MiB of disk space. It is common for ricers to use Arch because of its minimal base installation, allowing you to choose your own packages.
heh

>>57999220
>KISS policy
more like KISS my ass policy amirite

>>57999220
>allowing you to choose your own packages
Can confirm.

$ sudo apt-get install screenfetch
apt-get: nope

Should I switch to Arch Linux?

>>57999241
it a meme
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way
>That's an unprotected page on the wiki, not an authoritative source on
>anything to do with the distribution.

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html

that said, arch is actually nice

>>57999296
>mom, I posted it again

>>57999220
>KISS
>systemd
pick one

>>57999322
Anti-systemd hipsters are actually worse edgy than Arch kids.

>>57999322
http://systemd-free.org/

>>57999390
>>57999322

what's wrong with systemd?

>>57999651
It's cool to hate it. That's the only actual reason.

>>57999651
Nothing critical since it's free software. The discussion is basically autism about the programs structure and size.

>>57999668
>>57999692

thanks

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>>57999651

New thread, new luck.
>>57999724
>>57999724
>>57999724

>>57999651
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd

>>57999651
Nothing unless you're super autistic and care about low level things in your OS you don't even notice and won't have any problems with 99% of the time

>>57996346
>xubuntu
My grandmother cannot tell the difference. I just got absolutely sick of dealing with all of the viruses she got on windows. The issues that I have ran into is that there is a bug for lightdm that would keep her screen from locking. I just switched her over to xscreensaver and it works fine now. My only complaint is that I cannot turn off the update reminder. I set it to every 2 weeks, but I just wish it could be shut off.

>>58001353
nive try lennart

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Did I make a mistake?

>>57999057
I need a StaTrack fedora for the tipping I'm now obliged to do.

>>58002197
No