/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

where the FUCK can i get an Apple Extended Keyboard II with a Finnish/Swedish keyboard layout?
literally impossible2find

>recycling OP pics
If you are going to be lazy why bother making a thread at all?

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>>57932503
Phone posting m8

>>57932518
I have my keyboard folder synced via yandex disk to my microsd at all times

Learn how to phonepost

everyone goes around fellating gat browns but where can you actually find brands that use them, all ive seen is varmilo and tragicforce

Are WASD Keyboards /g/ approved as a first mech? not looking to spend a ton, and i like that i can customize the cap colors

>>57932531
Cant do much on a LG wine

>>57932564
They have some of the worst keycaps out there, but if you absolutly need custom keycaps then go for it. Otherwise get their barebones keyboards which are actually good, then get some keycaps from massdrop for like 30 bucks

>>57932564
They're about the same quality as Filco, but those custom printed caps are awful garbage. Just get them with the front printed Vortex PBT caps.

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;_;

>started making wiring for my keyboard
How does one keep his sanity when soldering all that shit?

do you guys know if i can still order some mod switches like how modern beige still accepted orders after the pre order period

>>57932609
>>57932618
Can you tell me a bit why their caps are bad? is it just because they're ABS?

>>57932479
Just get an ISO one then change the layout in windows. The keycaps wont match, but you can always buy those

>>57932665
>Sanity
Wrong general buddy :+)

>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
America
>Preferred switch type
Black
>Layout
Dvorak
>Form factor
100% or 80%
>Backlight
None
>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft thing

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>>57932670
No its because their shitty coating wears easily

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>>57932665
you don't.

why do you think I'm posting here 24/7

>>57932670
No, there are good ABS caps out there. WASD just makes especially shitty ones. They're very thin and whatever they use for dye makes the surface flake off. With other ABS caps you only have to worry about the tops being polished.

>>57932697
Unicomp makes dvorak keyboards, but buckling springs are the opposite of blacks. You should try them out for their unique typing experince

>>57932716
Is that magic force currently sitting around gathering dust?

>>57932665
SANITY is for the weak!

>>57932695
>>57932716
Well, fuck.
I suppose I could stop using single wires with insulation scraped off just where the contacts are though. Removing the insulation is just so annoying.

>>57932804
Don't you have a pair of those scissors with a hole for wires?

Does a keyboard exist that has cherry mx greens and RGB?

>>57932741
I'm mainly looking for something on the quiet side.

>>57932823
I do, but the wire is thinner than any of the holes. I suppose I could buy a smaller one.

pls respond

>Budget
100 dollars tops.

>Location (continent at least)
South America

>Preferred switch type
Tactile, preferrably silent.

>Layout
Preferrably ISO.

>Form factor
60 to 100%

>Backlight
Whatever.

>Previous/current keyboards
Previous: Microsoft wireless keyboard 800
Current: logitech keyboard k120 (sucks hard and has ghosting issues)

what's a good keyboard with cherry Browns or Clears with numpad, RGB LED's and USB inputs that isn't corsair

>>57932961
Everything you said was gross

>>57932961
There are no RGB keyboards with clears. If you want Cherry browns, get the Ducky Shine 6.

>USB inputs
Wait, you mean a built-in USB hub? Nobody does that anymore.

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>>57933042
>Wait, you mean a built-in USB hub? Nobody does that anymore.

Except the best keyboard to ever grace this planet

tempted to pre order from mechanicalkeyboards.com

how are their international orders? ordering to UK

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Post your /dirty/ keyboard :3

is there any way to make my ducky shine 5 sync with music?

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>over 400 purchased

n i c e

>>57933074
>HHKB
>reversed Spacebar
>RGB modifiers
Kys

>>57932906
The sound of bottoming out is louder then the actuation mechansim in cherry switches. Either go for cherry silents or matias q

>>57933181
*Matias quiet click

>>57932876
Yes pok3r

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>>57933178
>Using not flipped spacebar
>ever

It's like you hate your thumbs or something

Bonus points for flipping the whole bottom row

What is in OPs picture? A retrocomputer?

>>57933266

yes it computes backwards

>>57933264
>flipped spacebar
>artisan

christ, how embarrassing

>>57932931
Get a used cash register of ebay like the cherry POS ones

>>57933042
Shine 6 has a usb hub

>>57933120
Just add an extra 30£. Why not buy from keyboardco since they are in the UK already

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Compaq-185152-001-MX-11800-Rackmount-PS2-PS-2-Trackball-Keyboard-186591-001-/201745772387?hash=item2ef8fc2f63:g:T1gAAOSwYmZXGup3
Thinking on lay my hands in one of these beauties.
Any toughts?

>>57933266
Its an Epson PX-8 with cherry m8 switches

>>57933367
Too many keys

>>57933417
And what's a problem?

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>>57932609
I wanna know why WASD charges so much for their keyboards yet uses such substandard keycaps. Also why they don't do barebones for their code keyboards. No way those shitty keycaps are worth 50+ bucks.

>>57933450
>And what's a problem?
[prob-luh m]
noun
1.
any question or matter involving doubt, uncertainty, or difficulty.
2.
a question proposed for solution or discussion.

>>57933480
Kek.
Again
And why is that a problem?

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>>57932748
It certainly is.

I should desolder the switches and use them for some other shit.

>>57933529
>Gat clears

Just trash it desu m8

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>tfw waiting for chink controller boards

>>57933578
U wot m8

Gat clears are some of the best switches I've had my fingers on

>>57933591
Nah m8 just yesterday I shipped back my memeforce with gat clears to Amazon

Didn't like them

>>57933650
To add to this, I'm almost falling for the new meme the mod(-m) switches from originativeco,

A guy on YouTube even said they're the closest cherry could feel to a topre (I'm skeptic but still)

>>57933472
Mass producing a good quality single uniform set is cheap if you have to tooling. Otherwise either buy it from some one else, or spends loads of money getting the toolong yourself. I know the classic cherry Esc key mold cost like $500000

>>57933675
The stem is very close to clears/feelios, so expect it to feel close to those.

>>57933701
Never tried them

I know cherry brown and blue, get clears and topre.

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>>57933650
I see the meme was to strong for you

may you find your true meme

my brother in memes

>>57933700
>I know the classic cherry Esc key mold cost like $500000
Do you have a source for that?

5mil for an injection mold tools seems a bit steep, unless you're buying the whole injection molding machine along with it

>>57933923
do you ever stop posting

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>>57934017
no

if I stop posting I explode

just like sharks

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that was close

>>57932424
Is there anything interesting currently on Massdrop? I don't want to sign up just to see.

DSA vs. Cherry vs. SA

What does /mkg/ think?

>>57934085
they don't even verify your email

you can sign up with anything that has an @ and a .something in it

>>57934035
are u srsly running ur "pc" off ur phone

>>57934035

christ you are look like tryhard retard

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>>57934155
Of course I am

>>57934183
Are you new here or did it just take you that long to notice it?

>>57934116
I've used all three, and I prefer SA. The texture of PBT is better though. Once these become available I'm sure it'll replace my SA set:

https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/hi-profile-pbt-dye-sub-the-time-has-come-t10805.html

>>57933264
This is a pretty good idea senpai. Going to do this on mine. Thanks.

>>57934035
Can you tell me which cables I need to do this? I really want to use my phone like this and most of the bluetooth keyboards suck. I already have a HHKB.

Thanks

>>57934311
Any USB OTG cable that fits your phone will work, you can pick thrm up on ebay for a few bucks

>I really want to use my phone like this
Why tho

Is there anything like the Magicforce that won't make me look like a cheapass gook?
I really like the fact that it's a 60% with arrow keys and raised keys, but I don't want to buy chinkshit.

>>57934352
Get a magicforce and a 1500 bucks artisan keycap

>when your rubber dome switch keyboard is still like new even after 16 years of daily use

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_technology#Dome-switch_keyboard


Why would I want a mechanical keyboard again? I don't exactly have fond memories of the Model M that's collecting dust in my closet.

>>57933650
>I didn't like them so they're shit
Fuck off retard. Go back to your bucking springs.

>>57934372
Faggot

>>57932424
I play this rhythm game called osu! that is pretty much about hitting keys as fast as humanly possible. What would be the best kind of keyswitch for this kind of thing? Currently using mx reds on corsair strafe

>>57934392
Yes

>>57934378
Its gets too mushy overtime. My oldest rubberdome keyboard is from 1988 and it still works, but it feels disgusting to type on. On the otherhand my model m from the same year still feels brand new

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>>57934380
>>I didn't like them so they're shit
Correct.

>>57934311
There's also an extremely compact version which I have but haven't tried yet, pic related

>>57934456
>too mushy
Maybe that only affects the shitty ones. On mine, the least used keys (like scroll lock) feel just like the most used keys. I'll report back in another 16 years with an update.

If I want a dirt cheap older mech keyboard (from clueless sellers) which brands/models should I look for?

>>57934415
Ank 25 has a maximum 2mm of travel compared to the 4mm of cherry

>>57933364
Bought my mj2 blues from them so I do like keyboardco, they just don't stock the leopold fc660c.

>>57934619
>Bought my mj2 blues from them so I do like keyboardco, they just don't stock the leopold fc660c.
It's 230€ on eBay shipped to Europe, so I guess 200£?

>Muh arrows
Get a hhkb boy, much better aesthetics and sound thabks to no metal plate aka reverb plate

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>>57934506
looks like a good way to break your ports

>>57934653
You're getting creative again.

I'm glad I woke you up from your slumber

>>57934635
I hate dealing with ebay, just not a fan.

>Get a hhkb boy, much better aesthetics
I prefer the leopold, honestly, the arrows are nice but it's the ins + del keys which sell me, plus the cheesy C=Q/V on the body is really nice.

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>>57934682

>>57934830
Is that a miniature loo

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>>57934914

>>57934947
I still don't get it
But it looks like something that would take 6 hours to print

>>57934830
>>57934947
Subdivide your mesh before you export it, you daffy cunt

>>57934415
bamboo ctl 470

>>57933943
>5mil
He clearly said 500k

>>57934947
Fag

>>57934336
Thanks!

>>57935080
>bamboo ctl 470
fine with my mouse, thanks

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are there keyboards with switches like those of mouse buttons?

>>57935354
Razer has one with omron switches for ipads

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So I told myself to flip my entire bottom row,
And I actually did it!
The absolute madman ahahah

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>>57934989
>>57935053
>>57935144
it's a keycap

>>57935755
Wot

>>57935750
is this what happens when you finally reach endgame and realize keyboards are a meme and you have nothing else to do?

>>57935798
I literally turned down a girl tonight to stay home shitposting with you

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Topre just won the Deskthority switch of the year award

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>>57935766

>>57935942
no seriously what has that "vase" got to do with the red "skull" keycap?

>>57935354
the new macbook keyboards feel like mouse buttons. But I didn't really enjoy the feeling.

Did I fall for some fucking meme buying a mechanical keyboard? Its making weird echoey pinging sounds every timee I type also sometimess the keys get pressed twice for some reasson wtf

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>>57936140
yes

mechanical switches are a meme,
the world moved on to superior rubber dome in the 90s

get a good cup rubber keyboard

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>>57936001

>>57936331
all that structure to get a key?

>>57936331
That's the worst artisan key I've ever seen

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>>57936348
yes

you carve the keycap from the 3D printed part

>>57936410
I mean, it's bad, but calling me an artisan is a bit extreme

>>57936455
>you carve the keycap from the 3D printed part
there must be a better way

post the 3d project thingy of the cap?

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>>57936501

>>57936612
that looks like only the keycap, not this >>57934947
>>57934830

I swear to god I'm gonna keep asking for explanations until I understand

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>>57936664
what's your question

Can I ask a question about a wireless keyboard with touchpad here or should I make a new thread?

Just wanna know what cheap options I have. EU btw.

I love my Rosewill keyboard so far, fucking amazing.

Gonna replace the key caps as soon as they start to fade and shit.

>>57936692
>what's your question
why did you 3d print all that big vase which is like 20 times bigger than the keycap for a single keycap

and how do those weird inside shapes help "shaping" the keycap.

why can't you just 3d print the keycap alone

Got a model M at Goodwill a while back. Was wondering how many key roll over they have

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>>57936736
>why can't you just 3d print the keycap alone
but you can

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>57936140
>sometimess the keys get pressed twice for some reasson wtf
chattering
should try Topre

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>>57936889
a variation on rings

>>57932625
seiden are you a grill?

nice setup as always

>>57936931
so it had nothing to do with the keycap


why did you write
>you carve the keycap from the 3D printed part

wtf I hate you now

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>>57936952
>seiden are you a grill?
everyone can be a grill :3

>>57936931
did you finally print a keycap successfully or was it molded? If so, how did you do it?

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what's the best cheapass keyboard? An old IBM one?

>Need all necessary switches for a typical 60% keyboard
>Need all necessary keycaps for a typical 60% keyboard
>Soldering, case, etc. that I can do myself
is it worth it? how much would 102 keys&caps cost anyway

>>57937010
why do all the qt traps have shitty keyboards?

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>>57936952
>are you a grill?
no

thanks


>>57936953
It's fine, I hate myself too

>>57937013
I wouldn't exactly call it a success, since the stem wiggles a fair bit.

But yes, it was 3D printed.

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>tfw vintage board arrived today in near new condition
rinsing the caps right now just to make sure

>>57937081
>vintage
isn't that a touchpad I see?

>>57937094
yes, it's a vintage touchpad

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I don't have a mech yet, but y'all use rubber dampeners, right?

Being used to rubber dome keyboards going without rubber to hard plastic bottoming out must be uncomfortable.

>>57937159
>Being used to rubber dome keyboards going without rubber to hard plastic bottoming out must be uncomfortable.
no ofc not

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>>57937075
>why do all the qt traps have shitty keyboards?

>implying

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hello~~

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why do all sockfags have pleb taste

>>57937191
>pok3r

>>57937211
>miameme keycaps

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>>57937191
ok you and cox are the exceptions that i know of but like atleast 90% of sockfags i have seen have shitty rubberdomes.

>>57937273
get help

>>57937301
what for?

>>57937191
>ISO 60%
>>57937211
>Standard 60%

Yep those are shitty keyboard alright.

>>57937317
Terminal subhumanism.

Give me a reason not to chance MOD switches when they're only $10 more than getting legit Cherry clears

>>57937427
do eeeet

get mod-m or mod-h though, mod-l are for pussies

>>57937443
>mod-l
Do I look like a sissy-fingered faggot like seiden?

>>57937427
They are loose, noisy, rattle a lot, tend to jam, and you can't actually feel the tactile bump in normal use.

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>>57937453
>like seiden?
please, I use my shine 4 with cherry clears at work

should I buy a ISO novatouch for 115€ and flip it on r/mechmarket for a bajillion $$$?

I don't have a reddit account yet btw

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>Budget
~$125
>Location (continent at least)
United States
>Preferred switch type
Browns or Clears
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80%
>Backlight
White or RGB
>Previous/current keyboards
Old Razer Blackwidow Ultimate with blues

>>57937512
>yet
>intending to make one
Go directly to hell. Do not pass "go." Do not collect $200.

>>57937541
well I would make one to make money.

I read on DT and GH that gullible people there pay stuff more than it's worth?

the novatouch has been discontinued and they now sell for 160-180 used,
I'd sell it brand new in box, so I guess 200 + shipping

where do i buy a quickfire rapid in europe?

>>57932424
Anyone ever used a drevo 84 key? how are they ?

>>57937496
Faggot

>>57937727
enjoypbt

a lot of sets sell on aliexpress

So my left bracket key broke and I need it to program. I opened it up and saw the diode not only broke but wasn't even soldered onto the fucking pcb.

I need to buy a replacement diode and resolder it , does anyone know where I can buy one? Its for a ducky shine 2.

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>Budget
100 dollars
>Location (continent at least)
europe
>Preferred switch type
clears blacks or reds
>Layout
iso
>Form factor
tkl or 75%
>Backlight
dont care but pref not

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>>57937725
spot on

>>57937756
Thank you, I shouldn't have deleted my post. I saw the pastebin and where to buy but wasn't having much luck with those so far. Never done business with aliexpress before but might be time to start.

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GUYS

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>>57937951
Oh wow nice this enjoypbt has some nice caps nvm think I want his.

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from geekhack forums

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>>57938029
samples when

>>57938029
>>57938169
Someone with samples posted about them earlier. They're loose and scratchy and the tactile bump is undetectable.

>>57938180
it was me and I was just trolling

they are terrific

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>>57938186
Have you used Zealios? If so, how do they compare? I'm not interested in another switch I could get by modding MX Clears for cheaper.

>>57938186
What weight/s did you get?

>>57938225
>how do they compare?
the bump is more definite and longer,
I'd say from the very top to around halfway the travel

unfortunately they are less smooth than zealios

also hitting the key "from the side" can make the key wobble a bit, but it goes down nonetheless

>>57937522
Ducky one TKL from mechanicalkeyboards.com

should I buy this

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/rama-m10-a

I already have an hhkb so you know I'm ok with wasting money

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>>57938816
why not. If anything you can sell it to some retard for like a 1000 bucks if you don't like it.

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>>57938259
Sounds pretty good. I've come to care more about tactility than smoothness in general.

And I don't see how the wobble could be worse than Zealios desu

Should I consider a planck or is it too autistic

Anyone ever bought chinkshit blank keycaps? how good are they?

>>57939449
Are the key caps actually on all the way or is it really that shit.

>>57939941
They really wobble that much, and more. You can actually twist the stem a little and have it pop out of alignment, and to fix it you have to open up the housing to reseat it. I have done this by accident while switching caps.

>>57939449
those look even wobblier then matias switches

>>57939449
slutty, loose keycaps
2lewd

Where can i get qt key caps
I saw a pic of some with Japanese one the other day but i cant find it any ideas

>>57940337
Originative is going to do another phase of Classic Beige. You can buy into it then.

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>>57940337
exactly how cute?

>>57940431
Oh like those but white
Very cute though

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>>57940533
EnjoyPBT and Modern Beige will match that description.

>>57940550
How do I order enjoyPBT without being laughed at for being a dirty english-only whitey?

>>57940550
The ones in the pics are perfect could you show me were to get it

>>57940565
aliexpress m8

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Enjoypbt-keyboard-mechanical-keyboard-keyboarded-hot-117-keycaps/32694867686.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.IpTeYH&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_426_10073_10103_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051-10050,searchweb201603_1&btsid=774ef79d-f84b-43cf-b41f-529a0b1867b1

I like my Topre keyboards but I wish I had more options for Keycaps without having to use MX slider replacements.

>>57940572
too late XDA milestone ended less then three days ago, but maybe send them an email and they will let you in before the submit the order

https://www.keyclack.com/product-category/group-buys/xda-milestone/

>>57940572
That group buy just ended, it was extended 3 times but you still missed it, too bad

>>57940611
aww'
Any other options for something similar

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Why arent modular keyboards a thing yet? I was going to get a Memeforce as my first mech, but then I discovered "CIY" keyboards, where you can easily swap switches without the hassle of soldering. I bought a Zhuque TKL on Amazon for $40 and it was an amazing deal for what I got. I swapped out the no-name china switches for some Zealios and PBT keys and I couldnt be happier. Theres also the Team Wolf CIY keyboard, but I havent tried that one.

>>57939449
I can confirm that the newest batch of Zealios (R4) dont have a wobble issue. I really doubt they wobbled this much though, the keycaps look loose.

>>57940667
Send them a fucking email and see if there is yet any mercy in their robotic little hearts

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>>57940667
Modern Beige

>>57939941
they are that wobbly all the time

>>57940102
>>57940684
no they're not lmao

>>57940698
ouch there pricey
Being poor blows

>>57940718
its not like XDA will be that much cheaper

>>57940718
they were 80 bucks if you preordered, but it looks like they are doing an updated version so preorder that instead

>>57940684
>Why arent modular keyboards
Why would you want one?

>>57940758
why does it say 39
But when i go to it it says 90
Sorry for all the questions just new to this

>>57940856

So that I dont have to spend 10+ hours soldering and potentially breaking any components?

>>57941159
Or you can just buy a Realforce and be done.

>>57941202

>Topres are not the end all of keyboards, m8

>>57941540
Currently they are.

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good night /mkg/

>>57941090
It shows the lowest price. $39 is for blank keycaps.

>>57941540
Yeah it's Korean Custom Topre.

>>57941608
Good night, hope you don't get molested in your sleep.

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>>57941608

>>57933126
here you go senpai
vintage cherry blacks

id like an adapter, but the only guy who sells them on ebay doesn't have them in stock

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>>57942767
could have sworn I added the picture

>>57939449
At least round 4 of feelios should be much less wobbly.

>>57941553
>What is buckling spring?

>>57943442
Not that great of keyboards.

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>>57939449
L-Lewd

>>57943461
Maybe I should be more specific then; capacitive buckling spring.

>>57943474
Still not that great of keyboards. You got Unicomp at that's it.

>>57943481
>You got Unicomp at that's it.
Wrong.

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/

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>>57943512
>$300-$1200
>made in China

>>57943593
You're aware the original model Fs costed (when adjusted for inflation) $900 right? Meanwhile the $400 models this guy is making are done to higher standards than the original.

>>57940684
>work at micro center
>walkin' round see we have these new "epicgear" modular switch keyboard
>take it out
I touched the keys and they were like the gigabyte cherry clones but worse

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>>57943637
>done to higher standards than the original
>Made in China

>>57943650
>original uses plastic clips for the spacebar stabilizer
>new batch uses steel
>aluminum cases
Yes, really.

>>57943684
It's made in China. It's pure garbage.

>>57943691
Cool prejudging bro.

>>57943715
Call it what you want. Nothing that comes out of China can be called high quality. At best they may assemble high quality parts.

Should I go for a custom board with zeals or an HHKB with meme switches

>>57945127
Hhkb

I understand that it appears to be a meme, but topre is superior to any cherry like switch.

>>57945127
Realfroce.

>>57945188
You could use the bezel of a realforce as a cutting board for bread.

It's really ugly

>>57945206
Get a RGB then.

Which teensy version do you guys use for your DIY mechanical keyboards?

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"Up for sale is a Maltron 3D Ergonomic Keyboard with Cherry Brown switches and a L90 Maltron layout (WARNING: THIS IS NOT A QWERTY KEYBOARD). I purchased it direct from Maltron and, fair warning to all potential buyers, this keyboard is a piece of crap. The body is made from a really cheap, really thin plastic that will bend if you press down too hard. Each key's cutout looks like it was done by hand with an Exacto knife, so the keys aren't very straight (especially the ones in the middle, see image). Some of the cutouts were also cut too close so that the switches are either not pushed in completely, or will rub against the key next to it (in particular, the Right Ctrl key will rub against the Right Shift key, see image). The switches are pushed into the keyboard rather than mounted on a PCB, so they're easy to pull out, and each switch is soldered individually onto the controller PCB, causing a mess of wires. The 5 status lights are unlabeled and I don't know what each one is for, and the PCB for the USB port is held on with hot glue instead of screws. You can even see marks on the body where the hot glue was applied and warped the texture slightly, which they used as a lip so that the bottom panel of the keyboard doesn't sink into the body. The keyboard itself works properly, it's just really, really poorly constructed.

Frankly, I would have thrown this keyboard in the trash, but I paid over $600 for it, so I wanted to see if anybody was interested in it first. Don't say I didn't warn you though, but thank you for your interest all the same."

I don't like Tai-Hao/OEM profile, will GMK feel better? That Honeywell colourway on originative is so fucking good.

>>57945279
GMK feels good

>>57945279
Cherry is best profile after topre proprietary profile

>>57945258
2.0

>>57945279
>That Honeywell colourway on originative is so fucking good.
All these nice looking keycap GBs, and I can't buy into any of them due to them not having an ergodox kit. That or it's ridiculously expensive like 1965.

How much have you spent in total on this hobby?

Most regrettable purchase?

>>57945855
Probably in the ballpark of $750

My first keyboard, a Das 4. Definitely not worth the price.

>>57945795
Posts like this make me not want to fall for the Ergodox meme

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>>57946012
There are sets out there (SA sets will usually have an addon kit), just not many of the new GMK groupbuys that have been popping up as of late. Or you could just get DSA for the caps not in a standard set.

>>57945855
>How much have you spent in total on this hobby?
Over the years a lot. Well over 2 grand. But that's stretched across at least 10 keyboards.

>Most regrettable purchase?
Either Razor or Corsair keyboards.

>>57946061
Why did you buy 10 keyboards instead of a single good one?

>>57945855
>How much have you spent in total on this hobby?
>Most regrettable purchase?

Poker2 with blues 60€
Sold for the same price

Novatouch for 110€
Returned, full refund

Hhkb 220€
Keycaps (on the way) 50€

Magicforce with gat clears 59€
Returned, 55€ refund

>>57946074
I didn't think spending more than $100 or so would get me a better keyboard.

>>57945266
Sounds like he found a knockoff, the reviews for that thing usually mention its stability. how much does he sell it for?

>>57946097
I also memed my intern to buy a quickfire xt

HHKB or Realforce 55g?

>>57946127
Auction is well over 300$ now, started at like 10

>>57946153
If you really have to fall for the rubber dome meme, the latter.

>>57946153
Hhkb.

Realforce is ugly and has a metal plate - bad!

>>57946153
I like the lighter Topre switches personally. 45g is nice.

Is the Hana DSA set only available on Massdrop?

>>57946336
Looks like not even there

cueb revival and postage to australia when?

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Various mechs in my office- the PC board is some Korean company, but it has wonderful scissor switches.

>>57943637
>original model Fs costed (when adjusted for inflation) $900

What's your point?

A 1-button mac mouse costed $300 after inflation. An early 5.25" floppy drive would run you $800 in today's money.

That's no excuse when we can build as good or better for far less today.

Hall effect keyboards cost over a thousand today's money and now we have that Acepad company in China selling new ones for $80.

All it's going to take is for one competitive manufacturer to get on board with capacitive buckling springs and you'll see some on the market for sub-$100.

>>57946127
>Sounds like he found a knockoff

I don't think so. Genuine Maltron Ergos are actually built like that.

>>57946602
The model F has better build quality then all most every keyboard made today. And even then the other good keyboards cost $400+
Its not like the model F is overpriced since it costs the same as the others

>>57945855
>How much have you spent in total on this hobby?

$908 if my receipts are accurate. I probably could have cut that in half if I knew then what I know now.

>Most regrettable purchase?

Realforce 87U. Thought I'd love Topres but I really don't. They're nicer than ordinary rubberdomes but they rank lower than Cherry switches for my preferences. Turns out I like ALPS the best, with buckling springs a very close second.

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>>57945855
something around 800 bucks I figure

cherry mx board with browns was the most regrettable purchase as it was with browns and also the board that started this insanity

>>57946650
Have you seen what Realforce and HHKB put out? Not exactly poor quality.

>>57946725
Delete this

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>>57946822
They are also not cheap. Yes you can get the cheapo made in china ones, but you can do the same thing with buckling springs, except those are still made in America

>>57946886
>They are also not cheap.
They'e also not $1200 or however much they're asking for a chink made hipsterboard.

>>57946650
>The model F has better build quality then all most every keyboard made today.

[citation needed]

Sticking it in a metal case doesn't equate to build quality pertinent to its use as a keyboard. Likewise the use of twisted metal tabs for plate retention isn't impressive just because the model M used shitty plastic rivets. Most other switch types don't have need of such riveting in the first place so no comparison can be drawn at all.

>And even then the other good keyboards cost $400+

And which keyboards might these be? And on whose authority is their status as "good" determined?

>>57946916
Just look at the spec sheet m8

>>57946822
>Have you seen what Realforce and HHKB put out? Not exactly poor quality.

I wouldn't call the hhkb an outstanding example of build quality.
It is solid for being mostly plastic but it's still very underwhelming the first time you take it in your hand after spending so much for it.

I have to say I treated mine horribly since I take it back and forth work/home everyday in my backpack, and it held great, but I think it could be sold for 100$ and still make a profit

>>57946650

For one thing I don't need or want an aluminum case, and a fucking ugly one with massive space-wasting bezels at that

What I want is capacitive buckling springs with NKRO. This could certainly be done with more conventional materials and more than adequate build quality for $100-150.

>>57946954

I did. I'm not impressed.

>>57946960
Made in Japan ain't cheap.

And the second you move production to China, the QC you had in Japan goes out the window.

Given the construction method they choose they're very excellent.

>>57947011
Its still better then the spec sheet for topre and cherry :^)

>>57947034

That's bullshit and you know it. Just look at Apple products. They're exquisitely made to high standards, and that's Foxconn in China.

>>57947034
Do you think hhkb are assembled by samurais?

China really upped their quality game in recent years

Protip: all your 100$+ keycaps sets you buy are made in China no matter the brand

https://smile.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-GATERON-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01E57PUNA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481464322&sr=8-1&keywords=gateron+brown

first mech keyboard, but not sure if i like the keycaps? looked through the wiki but not alot of options for backlit ones, any suggestions?

>>57947060
>Just look at Apple products
Yes. Parts manufactured outside of China and assembled in China.

There's a reason nothing that's meant to be the highest quality goes anywhere near China. ie Fluke manufacturers their high end stuff in America.

>>57947111
It's a good first board.

>>57947111
Just buy it m8y

>>57947090
Name me one thing that's actually manufactured in China that is the highest quality you can get. Doesn't even have to tech related.

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>>57947090
>Do you think hhkb are assembled by samurais?
Given the fact that it says "made in Japan" right there on the back of it, I'd assume as much

>>57947147
Pollution :^)

>>57947126
i mean i wanna replace the key caps

>>57947197
Don't worry, After 10min you'll get tired of kiddy lights and turn them off.

After that, any pbt keycap set is good for you

>>57947147
>Doesn't even have to tech related
You sure about that. Its a well known fact that their tech and manufacturing sector sucks compared to the rest of the world, but their pharmacutical and medicine industry is all ready ahead of Europe, and is on par with the US. In some areas they are already the best in the world.

>>57947147
Mooncake.

>>57947220
>Chink medicine
Stop, anon.

>>57932424
What is this KB? What model?

>>57947299
Epson PX-8 with cherry m8 switches

Give me a reason in 15 words or less NOT to buy a 145$ tada68 with mod -m switches

>>57947342
Think of the memes brah, also
>Chink shit

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>>57945855
>How much have you spent in total on this hobby?
about $650

>Most regrettable purchase?
K70 with mx reds

i didn't know what i didn't know

>>57947366
>Think of the memes brah

Wait that's a reason to buy it

>Budget
£150 ideally, can push to £200
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Anything mechanical, don't mind the sound
>Layout
UK
>Form factor
Full
>Backlight
Yes, please.
>Previous/current keyboards
Currently on a shitty membrane Steelseries Apex Raw. Owned an M800 for a bit, but it died because Steelseries.
>More information
I would love a full form factor with backlighting that doesn't scream GAMUR. Would love a minimalistic 90s/80s look, but again, backlighting would be nice. I don't really mind that much of a backlight customisation, as you can interchange keycaps.

>>57947419
Code keyboard 104

>>57947419
Get a made in Japan Filco from Keyboardco

>>57947601
This looks gorgeous. What switches would you recommend?

>>57947419
Ducky One backlit version, or Shine 5 if you want RGB

>>57947705
Clears of course

>>57932804
Friendo, you need a printed PCB. Or at least proper wire strippers so you arent 'scraping' off the insulation.

>>57945175
>Hhkb
Type-S or regular? Can't decide.

>>57948112
most of the joy comes from the holy thock

get the reg man

>>57948152
But doesn't the Type-S silence the upstroke and not the thock?

new thread

>>57948302

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>>57935798
HHKB is far from end game LMAO

>>57948353
Ok grandpa

>Muh steel

>>57948380
Muh Capacitive buckling springs
Muh 5KG in weight solid metal case

Model F > Rubber Dome

>>57948492
Ok grandpa

>MUH STEEL

>>57948513
Muh Capacitive buckling springs
Muh 5KG in weight solid metal case

Model F > Rubber Dome

>>57948353
>muh buckling springs
>muh noise

>>57948551
>Muh $300 rubber domes

I don't know whats worse topre babies, or ibm fags

>>57948596
Topre fags by far

IBM's have lasted over 30 years and are still the best.

>>57948592
Joke's on you, I'm poor.

>>57948611
Both topre and cherry have also lasted over 30 years. Its nothing to be proud off. A lot of people seem to forget that buckling spring over membrane and cherry MX switches came out in the same year.

>>57948687
Topre isn't as old as capacttive buckling spring or membrane spring. Capacitive buckling spring was released 1981 and membranes were released 1985. Topre was more like late 90's. And who cares about cherry? They've always been inferior to Alps and Buckling springs

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>>57945855
$50 and some change
>>57942817
These I got for free

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>>57945855
Way too much. The industrial SSK alone is over 1000.

>>57948772
>Topre was more like late 90'
First time topre switch started appearing in keyboards about was in 1986, but the first mass produced topre keyboard was in 1987. Besides the patent for topre switches was filed in 1984

>>57937807
blease?

>>57948891
Europe is pretty big place. I think Cooler Master and Ducky have some keyboards there that fit your description

>>57948884
Then it took an extremely long time to become somewhat relevant. As I said, Buckling springs are older. And how many people are using those old topres? Everyone using Buckling springs are using ones from the 80's and 90's. My point is they have lasted longer and aged better than topre.

>>57948912
Thats only in America tho. you can still get old Sony topre keyboards, but shipping them is a hassle

>>57936736
he's a fucking faggot and he's not going to tell you what it is

Someone explain to a retard what the difference is between ducky shine 6 and the ducky one please.