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Welcome to /fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread. ***

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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine.
1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything.
2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows or Mac.
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Your friendly neighborhood search engine:
Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy such as qwant, searx, ixquick or startpage.

Check the Wikis (Most troubleshoots work for all distros.)
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Friends:
>>>/t/707928 - /t/'s GNU/Linux Games
>>>/t/713097 - /t/'s GNU/Linux Training Videos
>>>/wg/6767536 - /wg/'s GNU/Linux Wallpapers (Part 2)
https://archive.nyafuu.org/wg/thread/6743571/ - /wg/'s GNU/Linux Wallpapers (Part 1)
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Does memtest86+ use the Linux kernel? Can I pass a kernel option to it?

I just tried adding my option at the end of its linux16 something-something like, but it didn't work.
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What's the equivalent of this
https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4241/how-to-create-a-system-image-in-windows-7/
In Linux?
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>>57915043
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
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>>57915043
You can't.
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Just did a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04. I was using the oss radeon drivers for my R9 270x previously. However I'd like to try out the amdgpu-pro driver set. Will it work with my card?

My lspci string shows the following
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Curacao XT [Radeon R7 370 / R9 270X/370 OEM]


I see support for Volcanic Islands cards but I don't see the R9 270x in the list.
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>>57915098
>>57915135

my bad, guess i'm still retard posting
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how to defend myself against arch hackers?
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>>57915160
by becoming a gentoo hacker, arch hackers don't know how to gentoo
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>>57914562
Who is the man on the right of GNUd
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>>57915189
*left
I just woke up
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>>57915195
you've been save'd?
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>>57915224
Art thee a real villain?
Well technically, eh nah
Has't thee ev'r hath caught a valorous guy
Liketh a real sup'rh'ro?
Nah
Shaketh headeth
Has't thee ev'r hath tried a disguise?
Shaketh
Nah nah
Good now, I can seeth yond I shall has't to teachest thee
How to beest villains!
Epic saxo solo

Ho!
We art numb'r one
Ho!
We art numb'r one

Anon hark closely
H're's a dram lesson in dissemble'ry
This is going down in hist'ry
If 't be true thee wanna beest a villain numb'r one
Thee has't to chaseth a sup'rh'ro on the runneth

Just followeth mine own moves, and sneaketh 'round
Beest careful not to maketh a soundeth
Shh
CRUNCH
N A Y T O U C H E T H N O T Y O N D

We art numb'r one
Ho!
We art numb'r one
We art numb'r one

Ha ha ha
Anon behold at this meshes, yond i just hath found
At which hour i sayeth wend, beest eft to throweth
Wend!
T H R O W E T H T A T T H A T G E N T N O T M E
Fie, alloweth's tryeth something else

Anon gaze and learneth, h're's the dealeth
That gent'll slipeth and slideth on this banana peeleth
Ha ha ha
Gasp!
W H A T A R T T H E E D O I N G

Ho!
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We art numb'r one
Ho!
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
Villain Numb'r One!

Ho!
Ho!
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We art numb'r one
Ho!
Ba-ba-biddly-ba-ba-ba-ba
Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba
We art numb'r one
We art numb'r one
We art numb'r one
Ho ho!
Distemperate Town
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>>57915274
my favorite anime OP
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>>57915189
no idea m8, just did a reverse image search and found the russian /fglt/, kek, they have literally the same memes like manjaro ssl etc
https://2ch.
hk/s/arch/2016-05-24/res/1701328.html (why is this spam filtered?)
wish'd I could read these runes
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>>57915283
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>>57915305
Why wouldn't they? Most of the memes on that site are directly copied or inspired by 4chan ones
That's probably the case with all modern non-japanese and non-english imageboards
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>>57914377
Reposting my question.
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Is there a POSIX way of doing something like
echo $(command0 $(command1 $(command2 ... )))

Using ` doesn't help because if I write it like this
echo `command0 `command1 `command2 ... ```
the shell won't know which two `'s to pair.
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I think Sandy Bridge era Latitudes are better overall.
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>>57915305
>having your OS and Browser leaked with every post
Pure horror.
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>>57915411
Yeah, they added that for the board about 2 years ago I think. Don't even go there anymore.
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>>57915396
$ cowsay -n<<<"$(cowsay -n<<<"$(cowsay -n<<<"$(cowsay -n<<< "$(cowsay We need to go deeper.)")")")

__________________________________________
/ ______________________________________ \
| / __________________________________ \ |
| | / ______________________________ \ | |
| | | / _______________________ \ | | |
| | | | < We need to go deeper. > | | | |
| | | | ----------------------- | | | |
| | | | \ ^__^ | | | |
| | | | \ (oo)\_______ | | | |
| | | | (__)\ )\/\ | | | |
| | | | ||----w | | | | |
| | | \ || || / | | |
| | | ------------------------------ | | |
| | | \ ^__^ | | |
| | | \ (oo)\_______ | | |
| | | (__)\ )\/\ | | |
| | | ||----w | | | |
| | \ || || / | |
| | ---------------------------------- | |
| | \ ^__^ | |
| | \ (oo)\_______ | |
| | (__)\ )\/\ | |
| | ||----w | | |
| \ || || / |
| -------------------------------------- |
| \ ^__^ |
| \ (oo)\_______ |
| (__)\ )\/\ |
| ||----w | |
\ || || /
------------------------------------------
\ ^__^
\ (oo)\_______
(__)\ )\/\
||----w |
|| ||

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>>57915453
Ayy, here strings are actually bashisms. POSIX:
printf faggot | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n | cowsay -n
__________________________________________
/ ______________________________________ \
| / __________________________________ \ |
| | / ______________________________ \ | |
| | | / ________ \ | | |
| | | | < faggot > | | | |
| | | | -------- | | | |
| | | | \ ^__^ | | | |
| | | | \ (oo)\_______ | | | |
| | | | (__)\ )\/\ | | | |
| | | | ||----w | | | | |
| | | \ || || / | | |
| | | ------------------------------ | | |
| | | \ ^__^ | | |
| | | \ (oo)\_______ | | |
| | | (__)\ )\/\ | | |
| | | ||----w | | | |
| | \ || || / | |
| | ---------------------------------- | |
| | \ ^__^ | |
| | \ (oo)\_______ | |
| | (__)\ )\/\ | |
| | ||----w | | |
| \ || || / |
| -------------------------------------- |
| \ ^__^ |
| \ (oo)\_______ |
| (__)\ )\/\ |
| ||----w | |
\ || || /
------------------------------------------
\ ^__^
\ (oo)\_______
(__)\ )\/\
||----w |
|| ||

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I want to switch to Gentoo for speed, currently on Ubuntu.

Main things that hold me back

- apt is good af

- good graphics driver support, easy to set up through repo

- most if not all Linux vidyas supported

- just werks

- decent normie type shit like wallpapers

- easy to configure into a server

- easy to google for help

- laptop is well supported, never needed drivers except for the gpu

- low memory usage even with unity (what is even the recommended DE/WM on Gentoo)
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>>57915064
It says I don't have root privilege.
>>57915082
Why?
I've looked into clonezilla but it seem to create a system image to HDD only.
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>>57915711
sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
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>>57915742
I'm baiting you.
sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/image.bin be=4M && sync
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>>57915695
>apt is good
kek
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>>57915695
the shittiest package manager out there
that's the same
same
same
what? why would wallpapers be distro specific?
same
same
same, hardware support is a kernel related issue, not a software one
same, why would your distro have any bearing on your choice of DE/WM? that sounds retarded "af"
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>>57915807
u got me
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>>57915711
What about using DD to create multiple parts? By adding the count argument you can set a size say 4000M?
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>>57915393
I got it working finally, don't know what I did. But now the controller seems to also be controlling keys for the mouse. Is there a way to disable that?
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>>57915837
>u got me
rip fishy brethren, you might get forgotten
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>>57915811
Thanks mate.

Many distros tend to recommend/specify a certain DE, maybe you are retarded ""af"" and never saw that. But thanks for answering the other stuff.
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What's better out of using a free VPN or Tor?

Tried Orbot today and it's slow like a bitch. I'm in Bongland and want to avoid the faggot gubbermint from seeing what I browse, nothing else.

I don't talk about serious shit on email or whatsapp (which is e2e encrypted anyway) so that's not an issue for me.
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>>57916370
wow
so a distro that doesn't even come with a de can possibly recommend/specify one?
that's cool!
i guess i'm just retarded """af""" and didn't notice that gentoo doesn't come with a de
i was also pretty stupid to think that DEs are just a set of programs that can run on any distro
guess that was all wrong :((
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>>57916402
>What's better out of using a free VPN or Tor?
Why did you retarded "brain" even think this is a valid comparison?
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>>57916415
Yes you are retarded, thanks for playing.
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>>57916402
Tor, VPN isn't made for security.
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>>57916435
>Why did you retarded

kek
But it is a valid comparison. Both are tools that help the user mask their internet activity. Why did your retarded """"brain"""" not comprehend this?
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>>57916466
>VPN isn't made for security
Like fuck it isn't, at least in the context most people here use it for. Is this retarded day on /g/?
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>>57916480
low quality bait
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>>57916466
Neither is Tor
>>57916469
By no means are they even slightly similar. You have to be literally retarded to think that they are
>>57916480
I see, so security and anonymity are the same thing? That's nice to know
>/g/
This definitely isn't a board for you if you can't tell security and anonymity apart
Better visit something like /r/ubuntu
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>>57916507
My security is largely based on my personal anonymity so yes for my purposes they are the same thing.
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Are you running the latest stable kernel 4.8.13, /fglt/?
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>>57916402
Use Tor. You don't have anonymity or security with VPN.
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Who keeps taking pictures of RMS? There's thousands of pics of him...
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>>57916552
No you retard, that's not how it works.
Something doesn't become the same as something else if both things are related
>my
Why do you think anyone here cares?
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>>57916435
this
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>>57916571
Not from the company running the VPN, you don't. But that's not who I care about looking at my stuff. I'm more concerned about this faggot RIPA act the UK government passed recently.
>>57916580
If you don't care then that explains why you keep replying.
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any way to run a command which requires superuser privileges at some point during booting?

I need to modprobe -r, among other things. And before you suggest it, blacklisting does me no good. The modules load in spite of blacklists.
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>>57916597
if you want anonymity, exclude the man in the middle
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So krypton3 was pretty fun.
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How do i convert gif to webm
ffmpeg -i file.gif -c:v libvpx -crf 12 -b:v 500K output.webm

Not working
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>>57916571
>security
But you don't have that with Tor either. You don't magically become secure by using an anonymity tool.
They can both be used for achieving a higher degree of anonymity if used wisely though. It also depends on who you want to be hidden from
>>57916597
I don't care about your personal definitions, I care about you being outright retarded and thinking you aren't.
Define the level of anonymity you want.
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>>57916626
>Define the level of anonymity you want.
Already did at the start. I want to mask what I'm doing from the government of the UK or any country really. I'm not even doing anything illegal. I just don't want those fucks knowing my business.
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>>57916605
Try the "Blacklist with fake install" hack.
It just werks.
https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting
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>>57916625
What's the error?
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I got a 480, and amdgpu works fine.

When I go to logout in xfce4, which I sometimes do rather than using reboot/shutdown from a terminal, it takes like 20-30 seconds for the dialog to appear.

In that time my mouse is very very laggy and can barely move. Once the logout dialog appears it goes back to normal.

Anyone know why this could be/how to fix? Couldn't see anything with a quick search
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>>57916672
[libvpx @ 0x5558abec63e0] v1.6.0
[libvpx @ 0x5558abec63e0] Transparency encoding with auto_alt_ref does not work
Stream mapping:
Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (gif (native) -> vp8 (libvpx))
Error while opening encoder for output stream #0:0 - maybe incorrect parameters such as bit_rate, rate, width or height

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>>57916641
>masking your precise activity from the UK
Possible if you aren't retarded which I'm seriously doubting at this point. They will just know you might be masking something, your ISP can see that you're using tor. Even if you use bridges it's possible to still see that you're using it.
>or any country
Nothing can protect you against a global adversary.
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>>57915043
Anyone?
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>>57916625
Why not just ffmpeg -i input.gif output.webm
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>>57916625
>>57916684
Works here. Maybe try updating.
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>>57916684
Your gif is transparent, remove the alpha channel.
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>>57916715
everything is updated

>>57916730
so how should this look? >>57916625
>>
my keyboard superkeys aka the windows and alt key are not working under i3
why ?
on my old one its working fine
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>>57916840
>he has a windows key
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>>57916659
I (probably) still need to run a superuser command.
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>>57916886
look into cron @reboot
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>>57916903
heh here we go again
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>>57916903
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>>57916898
thank you!
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>>57916903
>posting thumbnail frogs
>>>/r/eddit/
>>
Should I just give up and try systemd?
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>>57916943
>>
>>57916943
>give up
on what?
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>>57915274
Autism: The Musical.
>>
>>57916966
LIFE
>>
>>57916982
what? can't read your posts
>>
>>57914562

Why should I be happy about systemD instead of paranoid?
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57917022
>paranoid
you should remove yourself from this thread if your this tech illiterate
its just a shitty init system, nothing more than that
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>>57917046
whoops meant >>57917022
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>>57917059
maybe you meant that
certainly not me lol
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>>57917070
why are you trying to be me?
>>
>>57917046
>tech illiterate
>can't properly link reply
bloat and feature creep my man
describing systemD as "just an init system" is like calling X "just a graphical system"
go back to your hot pockets
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>>57914562
i once photoshopped the man behind stallman out of the picture, i think it's still on my windows machine

>inb4 >>>/out/
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>>57917046
>>57917059
>>57917070
>>57917089
>posts ~60 seconds apart
stop samefagging, you're already a big enough fag
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>>57917097
Please avoid using the term “photoshop” as a verb, meaning any kind of photo manipulation or image editing in general. Photoshop is just the name of one particular image editing program, which should be avoided since it is proprietary. There are plenty of free programs for editing images, such as the GIMP.
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>>57917135
:^(
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>>57917089
but im not trying to be mentally disabled so no im not trying to be you
intender for - 57917095
yeah i used the term "init system" very loosely there
your still a tech illiterate motherfucker if you think the word paranoid is applicable here so go back to /r/gaming /r/ubuntu /r/mint /r/arch or /v/ or wherever you guys come from these day
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>>57917135
GIMP is such an unfortunate name for it, seriously. Gimped.
>>
>>57917135
GIMP is cancer
>>
>>57917160
>57917095
fuck >>57917095
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>>57917135
im using photoshop right now to manipulate your image
how does this make you feel?
>>57917162
it's a fitting name for gnu crapware.
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>>57915453
recowsive
>>
>>57917182
please open this link in your web browser https://www.reddit.com/
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So how do I start using ubuntu on a VM? I'm new to this. Some anons from another thread recommended it to me.
>>
>>57917182
every time a bad linux pun is made, a opensource developer puts a superior-to-closed-source program on backlog
>>
Hey /g/, found a trick to reboot in the background!
The command is:
sudo reboot &

The trick is, the "&" puts the reboot command into the background.

Enjoy.
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>>57917170
>>57917160

still can't link, still can't explain why SystemD and/or developers should be trusted
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>>57917236
muh memes
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>>57917236
nobody should be trusted
you have no reason to be paranoid when using audited software though
that being said you have no reason to use shite like systemd when there are much better alternatives
↪57917247
>muh
see >>57917212
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>>57917249
>57917247
shit, messed up while test my 'cool as fuck' arrows
meant >>57917247
>>
>>57917249
wrong key, meant to quote >>57917247
>>
>>57917267
>>57917271
at this point your should automate this
>>
>>57917249
<arrow> >>57917247
>>
To ↳
57917271
57917267
57917290
Good posts.
ーーー
57917249 ↵ From
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>>57917293
inane
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>>57917289
You could easily evade any search filter he comes up with
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>>57917289
my bad man, it just keeps happeing. my its the nsa messing with my systemd/Gnu/linux distro

>>57917293
for
>>57917271
>>57917267
>>57917290
>>
I have about 1,5 years lurking /g/ but I still don't get why I should bother with linux?

what are the benefits besides that it's free?
It seems to me that it's only made for programmers and everyone else should stick with normal OS's
>>
>>57917335
D O N T
O
N
T
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>>57917307
if regex postnumber without >> prefix then choose random excuse and post
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>>57917335
Its cool and doesn't work like shit.
>It seems to me that it's only made for programmers
Nah, I've seen a lot of python and bash enthusiasts use it so it isn't just for programmers.
>>
for two posts above me
what about this, huh?
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Hello, I just bought a thinkpad 13 (the cheapest, with an Intel celeron, i wanted a brand-new laptop that's why I didn't took a good refurbished thinkpad) I don't know what distro should I put on it. I'll only do basic stuff on it (French soldier) the only thing I want is : good battery life (so no resource intense de/wm) and performance. I don't really care about eyecandiness. I'm not a power user btw, use Ubuntu as my desktop os
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>>57917357
well if you do it, hmu .make my life easier ; attached anothe mistake
>>57917369
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>>57917335
Linux is nonfree software and should be avoided. Instead use Linux-libre, a fully free version of Linux without proprietary blobs.
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>>57917381
I think Ubuntu MATE would good for you
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>>57917395
delete this
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>>57917335
Ich möchte nur einmal kurz etwas einwerfen. Was Sie als Linux bezeichnen ist in Wahrheit GNU/Linux, oder wie ich es vor kurzem zu bezeichen begonnen habe, GNU plus Linux. Linux an sich ist kein Betriebssystem, sondern eine weitere freie Komponente eines voll Funktionsfähigen GNU Systems, welches durch die GNU corelibs, shell utilities und andere wichtige System Komponente nützlich gemacht wird und ein Betriebssystem ist, wie es durch das POSIX definiert ist.

Viele Computer Nutzer benutzen eine modifizierte Version des GNU Systems jeden Tag ohne es zu bemerken. Durch eine eigenartige Wendung wird die Version von GNU, die heute weit verbreitet ist, oft Linux genannt und viele der Nutzer sind sich nicht bewusst, dass es eigentlich das GNU System ist, welches von dem GNU Projekt entwickelt wurde.

Es existiert wirklich ein Linux, und diese Leute benutzen es, jedoch handelt es sich dabei nur um einen Teil ihres Systems. Linux ist ein Kernel: das Programm im System welches die durch die Maschine bereitgestellten Ressourcen an andere laufende Programme verteilt. Der Kernel ist ein essentieller Teil eines Betriebssystems, aber ohne den Rest des Systems nutzlos; er kann nur in Zusammenarbeit mit dem Rest des Systems funktionieren. Linux wird für gewöhnlich in Kombination mit dem GNU Betriebssystem verwendet: Das ganze System ist eigentlich GNU mit dem Linux Kernel, oder GNU/Linux. Alle so genannten Linux Distributionen sind in Wahrheit Distributionen von GNU/Linux!
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>>57917395
why is linux libre even a thing?
why don't linux developers work on free drivers?
is it just lazyness or is it really that difficult?
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>>57917591
They do, but they include non free ones too. Linux-libre ONLY removes the binary blobs. They aren't developing anything.
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>>57917591
why don't you just write free versions of drivers? is it that difficult?
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>>57917591
You need to do a lot of reverse engeneering to develop free drivers. Linux-libre basically just removes nonfree drivers, which means, if you have hardware that needs them, you're fucked (or you're lucky if you bought hardware where free drivers are available).
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>>57917623
>You need to do a lot of reverse engeneering to develop free drivers
not really, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>57917630
Reverse engeneering is the only way to get any info about what happens when binary-only firmware talks to the hardware.
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>>57917630
>>57917680
and here the sane discussion ends
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Hey there friendly Linux folk.

I told myself when I built my next computer I would get away from using Windows as my primary OS once and for all. Now I've got a totally fresh build coming together and the temptation to just fold and install Windows for convenience is strong.

It's a 6700K / Z170 / GTX 1080 build, with a 256GB M.2 SSD and a 2TB HDD. I built it for games, but in actual use it will probably only be used to run games for ~25% total uptime or so.

Can you guys recommend me a couple of distros to take a look at, and will I be able to get full potential out of my hardware using a VM with GPU passthrough or should I just do dual-boot?

Thanks
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>>57917680
So you are claiming you can't write drivers from scratch for a piece of hardware you own?
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>>57917713
That's the point.
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>>57917708
Just dual boot, you have an SSD so that's a pretty obvious move.
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>>57917734
I see, so what happened exactly when I wrote drivers for a piece of hardware without seeing the original source code?
I guess I somehow reverse-engineered it and forgot.
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Why does debian run so smooth on my x131e considering it has Gnome 3?

I just wish I could get Steam to work on it.
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>>57917789
>supporting DRM on gnu/linux
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>>57917403
Thanks
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ive used Arch for the past year, now Im moving to debian... so how does the package manager work?
apt-get installl [program]?
how do you compile??
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>>57917831
Debian doesn't have a source option. If you want to compile software, you will be using git and ./configure make make install
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>>57917831
>doesn't know how to read manpages
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>>57917831
debuild -uc -us
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>>57917831
>so how does the package manager work?
it doesn't
>how do you compile??
it can't
its a piece of shit
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>>57917854
Debian has a source option. Stop bullshitting.
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>>57917873
show me
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>>57917895
>he can't read
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>>57917895
$ dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc
or >>57917864
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>>57917905
I see, if that's your standard of proof - Debian does not have a source option. Stop bullshitting.
>>57917921
Show me it actually does what you say it does
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>>57917934
Read it up yourself faggot.
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>>57917954
I don't have access to any other sites right now and I'm not going to install sjwbian or its shitty package manager on my computer
So are you going to actually demonstrate it has a source option?
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>>57917980
>I don't have access to any other sites right now
ask mom to turn off the family filter?
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>>57917225
pls respond
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>>57918017
I wish it was that easy
So debian doesn't have a source option after all?
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>>57917980

>he doesnt know how to spin up a vm
>le spooky sjw is infecting my foss software

what a maroon
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Trying to install Lubuntu on oldass Dell D610

>fails at Grub install

Try Xubuntu

>same

Try LXLE

>same

The install works for a bit, then throws a message that GRUB cannot be installed and i can't click cancel or ignore or anything, it just freezes. Only unplug adn remove battery works

Win XP installs just fine.

Is it the laptop model or something? First time trying to install this shit.

Most forums suggested I run the "try from live CD" and install from there - same shit happens.
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>>57918068
install ubuntu
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>>57918059
you do realize that this vm would still be located on my computer, right?
sjwbian literally changes "slave" to something else, keep telling yourself their politics have nothing to do with the end result
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Is there a way to encrypt a hard drive without having to wipe it completely or at all? Is it less secure?
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Arch or Gentoo for maximum autism?
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>>57918128
>Is there a way to encrypt a hard drive without having to wipe it completely or at all?
yes
>is it less secure?
potentially, wiping with zeroes shouldn't take long and would probably suffice.
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>>57918028
Are you using windows? Do you have a VM program like virtualbox?
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>>57918159
gentoo, but not for the reasons you suggested. It's just a very good distro and certainly better than arch.
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>>57917934
here you go bub
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>>57918128
If you do full disk encryption with LUKS, iirc you just have to erase the header section and it should be p-much completely unrecoverable. Might want to read up on it though, I'm not 100% sure.
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>>57918221
>.png
try making it .webm, dear
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>>57918128
>>57918243
First time you do it you should overwrite with pseudorandom data. If you are just reinstalling, no need to wipe again.
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>>57918117
does them changing the name trigger you? do you need a safe space?
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>>57918251
i'm unable to record webm on my hardware
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Ever had a problem with a graphic mode program, but don't know the name of its process / can't find its name in the system monitor?

The command "which" is not enough.
What you need is "xprop WM_CLASS", an X-Desktop command that displays the name of the process when you click the window of the program.

See also the command "top" (a sort of command line system monitor)
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>>57918267
yes.
nope, i don't think they can find me where i am right now.
>>57918275
sure, lmao
i believe you
any other sjwbian fags willing to demonstrate that your package manager is capable of basic things?
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>>57918291
>sjwbian
what's this stupid new meme?
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>>57918305
Cancer, trademark KDE Shill.
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>>57918305
sjw = sjw
bian = last part of debian
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>>57918305
It's just some fedorafag forcing it.
What they keep forgetting about is that redhat appointed a fucking Diversity Adviser for Fedora.
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>>57918338
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>>57918364
>fedora
literally never used it.
if that's true then feel free to call fedora sjwora
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how to sjw arch? sjwarch?
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>>57918168
Yes and no.
Should I install it, and then what?
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>>57918402
yes, that would be most natural sounding think I think
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>>57918402
This sjw thing is literally everywhere.
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>>57918449
It isn't though, not in my distro at least
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>>57918449
>using sjwuntu
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genkernel or custom?
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>>57918449
iphone women masterrace checking in
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>>57918523
depends, just use genkernel if it's your first time, get a running system and then try doing it yourself next time.
don't forget to run genkernel with --makeopts=-jX though
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>>57914562
I've tried ubuntu and fedora installation media on pic related machine and neither will boot to a desktop. I've tried booting in UEFI mode and legacy. What's up?
Is skylake or my gpu or something not supported?
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>search for fedora women
>find porn
http://photoblog.nicubunu.ro/2010/06/sexy-fedora-no-shirt.html
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>>57918616
What's the exact problem?
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>>57918364
I thought I was getting trolled but holy shit
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity_Adviser

How do we reclaim the internet
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>>57918616
dare you to post a fucking speccy in this thread ever again.
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>>57918633
Fedora keeps creating and deleting a user called GDM 112 or something during boot of the installation media.

>>57918642
cease life
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>>57918638
you can't. It's too late...
i'm currently working on creating a mercenary "state" in the middle of nowhere to help remedy this problem.
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>>57918279
Honestly you shouldn't have to do this. If you know how to launch a program, it should be easy to find where it is launched from, with the shortcut. It's easy on Windows.

But the guys at freedesktop (note : I use ubuntu) messed up when they normalized the linux launchers, especially with the field "name".
The result is that sometimes you use a program that you launched. Want to find the process? Have the launcher ("shortcut") in your menu bar?

- can't find the shortcut
- even if you know where to look (usr/share/applications)
- even if you know the english name of the program

What the .desktop launchers do with the "name" line is that they often both rename/translate the process name AND the shortcut name. So in Ubuntu, the file manager won't display the real name of the launcher.desktop. A fucking nutcrackers esp. for a n00b distro (don't know how many distros use .desktop launchers)

A workaround is to type "ls" in the launchers folders. But chances are you still won't find your launcher.

In Windows you would just right click the shortcut to the program (from the desktop, or even from the start menu) and click "properties" to find the target.

That's why xprop WM_CLASS is needed sometimes.

One of the patterns is that a program like, say, "gnome-clock" will have a launcher.desktop named "horloge" ("gnome" is omitted, "clock" is translated)
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>>57917740

Dual booting seems like a pain in the ass, but I've never done it so I'm not sure.

Is it really easier than running WINE?
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>>57918817
By no means.
It's literally as easy as choosing what to boot from when hitting F7 at your bios screen.
Setting it up with uefi could take a few tries though but it's even easier than MBR once you get the hang of it.

Just google uefi dual booting.
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>>57915695
Install debian gnu linux
Deiban is
- as fast as lightning
- as solid as a rock
- easy to use and well supported

>what even is the recommended gentoo DE?
K
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>>57918413
Yeah, download virtualbox (free), and then go to ubuntu.com and click the desktop button to go to the downloads page for the desktop installer. There is a "16.04 LTS" download that is a stable version that is supported for 5 years, but if you're just playing around you can get the most recent 16.10 version below it. Skip past the donation garbage.

You'll should get an .iso file downloading. There's also an installation guide on the page with the download, just skip step 1 about the DVD/USB drive, obviously.

Then install virtualbox. Once you get it all set up, start it up, click the new button up top, and follow the instructions. I'd recommend at least 1gb RAM for the VM, although it supports lower. Make a hard disk and set it to whatever you think you need, at least 4-6GB of disk space.

After that, right click on the new VM in the list and open the Settings, go to the Storage tab, click the CD that says "Empty". Then on the attributes section to the side, click the little CD icon next to the drop-down, select "Choose a virtual CD/DVD disk file..." and find the ubuntu iso that you downloaded. That's basically all you need to do, so mess around with the rest of the settings if you want, but after you're done hit okay, right click the VM, and click "start" to boot it up.
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>>57918108

Wouldnt ubuntu be too "heavy" for this? I specifically searched for a lightweight distro becasue it's an oldass 1 core and 1gb ram
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>>57918954
just like any distro if you do a netinstall
nope
>easy to use
>well supported
nice buzzwords
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>>57919026
Install lubuntu , the lightweight version of ubuntu
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>>57919007
I have 16gb of memory and 1tb of storage, how much should I specifically assign if I plan to play around with the command line and maybe do some programming?
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>>57919058
Any netinst is fast but debian is the only "solid" distro other than maybe RHEL in the sense it's never going to break on you
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>>57918817
Pain in the ass to set up.
Prepare to use a lot of "boot-repair"
Once it's set up, Windows will mess with Linux GRUB on every major update.
Then you're good, but prepare to read a lot on GRUB, MBR, fstab, uefi, security issues etc
In the end you have two systems on the same machine, but they can't communicate anyway.

On the bright side, I haven't used Windows in 3 weeks.
On the down side, I was interested in linux for security reasons. In the end, I decrypted my windows crytped folder so that I can read them from linux. It's even less secure now.
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>>57919149
It will run fine on just 1 or 2 but if you want to experiment with various desktop environments give it 4
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>>57919133

Did you even read my original post?
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I'm running Lubuntu and when I try to install Steam it finishes the whole installing process. But when I launch it nothing happens.

Anyone have a solution?

I remember trying to figure this out a few months ago but no one had a solution at the time.
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>>57919176
Gnu linux
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>>57919203
True, but most people don't even say "linux".
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>>57919193
No

>>57919197
Try launching it from the terminal emulator, it should give you an error you can post here or search on duckduckgo
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>>57919203
btw when I do "man ls", I get credits to RMStallman
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>>57919158
nah
gentoo never breaks on me
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>>57919149
Programming and command line stuff are pretty light, but since you have decent specs, I'd say 2-4GB of memory and 64GB of hard drive space.

When making the virtual hard drive file, BTW, you can tell it to be "dynamically allocated", which means the file will start off at a few MB or so, and grow as you need it, up until it hits the maximum size you give it. So you could just tell it to be 500gb, and if you never use that much, it shouldn't grow that big.
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>>57919261
You must be doing something wrong
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>>57919176

So yeah, sounds like a pain in the ass. Well fuck, would it be easier if I just installed Windows on its own hard drive?
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>>57919275
Why do you think so and what do you mean by wrong?
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Starting my first IT class in jan. First class is UNIX into Linux. what should I expect/ do in preparation? i dont have much experience in the field
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Thoughts on ksh?
ksh-openbsd, mksh or ksh93?
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>>57919197
Run it from the command line like the other guy said to look up the error.

I had this problem with regular Ubuntu a while back, steam comes with a certain library that doesn't play nice with certain graphics drivers iirc. The fix is pretty simple, basically just running from the command line like `export LIB_SOMETHING=/path/to/other/lib; steam` but I don't remember what it was, and I'm not at my desktop to pull it up.
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How is Manjaro lately?
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>>57919297
That's actually the easiest thing you could do.
Just install grub on /dev/sdb assuming /dev/sda is windows
Just unplug the windows drive before installing and you should be able to choose which drive to boot from in bios. You won't have a single boot menu with two OSes that way, which is what you want.
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>>57919404
freedom, autism & proprietary software
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>>57919404
Install linux in a virtualbox or use a live USB and learn the command line.

Major tasks to learn in preperaton

- how to use the program <code> man </code>

Man holds the user manuals to all of the software.

How to navigate the file structure with CD and LS


That the way to end a terminal program that isnt responding or if you're lost is ctrl + c

My task for you is: install gnu linux in virtualbox. Then all from the command line: create a new directory in your documents directory. Use the text editor to create a bash script that runs COWSAY "hello world". Make that script executable, and run it.
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>>57919496
Use Antergos or one of the Arch installers. Manjaro is pointless
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>>57919655
Why? Manjaro has less packages than Antergos does.
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>>57919007
>>57919185
>>57919269
If I start it, can I run both OS simultaneously? Or will this shutdown windows and start linux?
Also, when I try to start it, I get this error message:
Failed to open a session for the virtual machine Ubuntu.

VT-x is disabled in the BIOS for all CPU modes (VERR_VMX_MSR_ALL_VMX_DISABLED).

Result Code: E_FAIL (0x80004005)
Component: ConsoleWrap
Interface: IConsole {872da645-4a9b-1727-bee2-5585105b9eed}
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As always, annoying reminder to drop your free wallpepes: >>>/wg/6785580
(Pls update OP, part II is dead; this is part III)
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Installed Mint on my brothers laptop because it borked and we don't want to pay for windows. Anything I should know? I already have it installed and everything. Used the OEM feature and booted it from my phone (used an app).
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>>57919670
Delaying packages defeats the purpose of using a bleeding edge distro
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>>57919784
Manjaro has serious problems, but it doesn't "delay" packages. It has three branches (like Debian) stable, testing, unstable, whereas unstable is as up-to-date like Arch.
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>>57919693
Okay, nevermind, it started working now, but I can't boot it. It says it requires and x86-64 CPU, but I have i686.
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>>57919777
bad thread
literally threw up from the first image
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>>57919830
The package delaying meme was brought up by some Arch dev faggot.
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>>57919838
>>57919693
Also, I don't have the option to select a x64 Linux version anywhere in virtualbox
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>>57919783
What does he use his laptop for? If it's basic stuff then I don't think you need to do anything other than sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade. Check the "update everything" option in update manager (or the "optimize stability and security" option if you're REALLY afraid of something breaking). Mint is pretty retard-proof.
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>>57919863
>>57919830
>Manjaro itself uses three sets of repositories: the unstable repositories contain the most bleeding edge Arch packages, possibly one or two days delayed; the testing repositories contain packages from the unstable repos synced every week, which provides an initial screening; and the stable repositories contain only packages that are deemed stable by the development team.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manjaro_Linux#Relation_to_Arch_Linux
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>>57919693
>If I start it, can I run both OS simultaneously? Or will this shutdown windows and start linux?

It will run ubuntu inside windows. It's literally a virtual computer, like a video-game console emulator. The VM will open in a window, which when you click on it will capture your mouse and keyboard.

I've never gotten that error message, but I'm 99% sure its wants you to reboot your actual computer, boot into the BIOS, and try and toggle an option saying something along the lines of "enable virtualization" or "allow vt-x". If you can't, you might have to go back to the settings for the VM, go to the System tab, click the acceleration tab in there, and unchecked the "enable vt-x/amd-v" option. Unchecking it will probably get rid of the error, but the VM will also probably run slower.
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>>57919863
>Arch dev faggot.
using faggot here is redundant
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>>57919893
>Mint is pretty retarded.
FTFY
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>>57919893
Yea I'm doing that right now. The wireless wasn't working so that made me a little concerned (it was before I installed it)
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>>57919908
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>>57919955
>get corrected
>post meme
10/10
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>>57919968
it's a good meme tb h
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>>57919882

Oh, yeah, idk if there is a way to emulate a 64 bit processor with virtualbox, so you might have to go to https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads to find a 32 bit iso.
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>>57920027
Alright, I went into the bios and it turned out that I don't have virtualization enabled, so I got it working now, thanks for the help. Should I install from the cd now, or just try it? Also, do I want third party software?
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>>57920189
No prob. If you try it out, it will boot you right to the desktop (with programs like Firefox, a music player, and some utilities available) with a little icon on the desktop that starts the installation process. Or you can just install it without going to the desktop.

Just a note though, if you try it out and run out of memory (by loading up too many tabs in firefox or something), the vm might hang and you'll have to close it and restart it.

Also, I'd say "why not" on 3rd party software. If you were autistic about open source, maybe not, but you already run windows and its just a vm anyways. You can disable it later if you don't want it.
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why are people using ubuntu over debian
>shit de
>shit company
>shit software center
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>>57920296
Yeah, just gonna go for it. Do I want to encrypt it and use LVM? I'm tempted to try it, but I don't know what the drawbacks are.
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had several issues with my gentoo install caused primarily from forgetting to set profile.
>set profile
>clean up use flags
>run emerge -ue to thoroughly clean system and update anything
>19 hours later no issues

i don't know if i should be angry or satisfied that the problems are gone
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>>57920304
Because its out of the box experience is easier than Debian's.

Also right now Debian is ranked higher than Ubuntu on distrowatch.
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>>57920304
It's much more friendly to noobs. That's literally what it's for.

Go ahead and tell a noob to install the prop nvidia drivers for their new-ish card on Debian. Let me know how that goes
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>>57920359

LVM is logical volume management, it deals with how your hard disk is partitioned. I don't think you need it unless you want to encrypt or do something crazy partitioning, but it wouldn't really hurt.

I personally wouldn't bother encrypting the disk on a vm, because if your host is compromised, it wouldn't help much, and also if you lose your password, everything inside is gone forever. But if you want to, it also probably wouldn't hurt much. Reading and writing to disk would probably be slightly slower, but not noticeably for day to day stuff.
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How do you guys manage several drives? I've got a 256GB SSD, 1TB HDD and a 3TB HDD. I'm going to be saving a lot of anime, doujins, virtual machines and the like.

Should I just plop root on my SSD, home on the 1TB and use the 3TB as a general purpose 'archive'? I know btrfs has all kinds of subvolume magic but that is over my head
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>>57920526
 /dev/sda6       419G  123G  275G  31% /home
/dev/sdb1 879G 669G 166G 81% /storage
/dev/sdc1 429G 331G 77G 82% /storage/AWIC

sample of my setup. word of advice: embrace symbolic links
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Is there a way to change how the start button menu on mint looks?
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>>57920599
Just right click the menu button and hit "configure"
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>>57920599
>>57920638
<3
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>>57920510
Thanks so far. It prompted me to remove the installation medium; should I now unmount the iso?
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how 2 install gentoo
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>>57920526
Unless you're planning to expand it in in the future and storing your files simply in another directory once the first ones are full is a problem you should really just use standard partitions instead of an abstraction layer like LVM.

30GB for /.
2x RAM for swap.
Rest of the SSD for /home
1TB and 3TB drive as separate partitions for whatever the fuck you might want.

You can always make your storage drives into mounting points and mount them inside your ~/ directory on boot with fstab.
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>>57920594
So /sda6/ home is presumably on your SSD with root, boot and you have symlinks for Videos, Pictures etc that are on your bigger drives? Is that right?
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>>57920638
Thanks

Also is there a way to switch the language to Korean at the press of a shortcut? Like if I want read system menus and type in Korean.
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>>57920678
Nevermind, I got it to run, works fine so far.
Now, how do I remove or add stuff? I tried to enter root in the terminal, then it prompted me to install it, is this good?
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hey /fglt/
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>>57920724
This is for changing the input method at least.
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>>57920776
How did you try running it? The two main ways to get to root are by running "su" or "sudo su" and then typing in the relevant password. "su" is p-much always prepackaged with linux and I think "sudo" should already be installed on Ubuntu.

Also, just a BTW, its good security protocol to use root as little as possible, so if you're installing a bunch of stuff go for it, but if you just want to program and mess around with the command line, it might be a better habit to stay in your user until you need it. Users constantly being admin was one of the reasons why Windows was so terribly insecure back before vista introduced UAC.
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>>57919882
You need the 32 bit version for vitrualbox, you have the 64b
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>>57920776
Do you need an IME for that? I would assume korean requires something like that since the characters are composed of smaller parts
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>>57920933
>>57921052
I don't know, I already closed the terminal, but I think I installed a program called root or something like that. I'm fairly new.
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i have many wine installations as recommended and therefore make use of wineprefix.

i want to associate an imageviewer (jpegview) with image files because it accomplishes everything i want better than anything I have found on linux

if i place the command
WINEPREFIX=~/.wine/win64 wine /media/username/Storage/Other/Programs/JPEGView/JPEGView.exe

in the "command" box of the right click menu file associations page, it will say
>Failed to execute child process "WINEPREFIX=~/.wine/win64" (No such file or directory).

if i make this an executable script, it will open, but will be on it's pseudo filebrowser, instead of just opening the image i want to view

is there a way to fix this? this is also my problem with the standalone flash player from adobe
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GNU Bash is the best shell.
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>>57920919
Ok got it thanks
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>>57921112
Alright, basically I seem to have installed root, located at root.cern.ch, but I have no idea what it really is.
How do I uninstall it in the terminal?
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>>57921293
I find it funny that OSX despite being BSD uses bash as a default shell.

I think it's the usual case of "too big to fail".
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>>57920872
hey anon
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>>57921293
>made by a * and is still somehow the best
Nope...
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>>57921333
everybody knows bash and it's fine.
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>>57921333
>too big to fail
you used that wrong

>>57921419
found the zsh user
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Currently I got only 1 HDD that is partitioned as follow :
>sda1 : system reserved
>sda2 : windows 7
>sda3 : linux
>sda4 : swap


I only have a few GB left on my linux partition while my windows still have a lot of place.
Is it possible to reduce my sda2 partition size and then give this free space to sda3 ?
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>>57921453
Gparted
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>>57921442
i actually use sh
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>>57921293
>gnu
bloat
>bash
blooooooat
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>>57921487
found the bait user
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>>57921491
What do you use, then?
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>>57921491
How has uclibc been working out?
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>>57921504
rc
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>>57921495
bait isn't a shell
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>>57921542
keep talking like that and i'll install windows 10 on my embedded ,augmented reality chip
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>>57921590
do it.
im an undercover agent looking to uninstall linuxes from everyones pc
- paid for by the berkley software distribution
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>>57921636
come back when you become >>57921542
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>>57921495
found the fish user
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>>57921667
haha! Yaas! fish was the best in 2003!
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>>57921323
It would be "sudo apt-get remove package_name". Btw, if you know a command line program like "apt-get" or "nano" and don't know how to use it, you can try typing "man apt-get" or "man nano" to get a little manual page about the program.
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>>57921709
Okay, last question; should I assign more cores to the VM? I'm asking this because the CPU is running at 50% on idle.
Also, while idling, it eats up 1.1gb of RAM, is this normal?
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Can you somehow use a NUL byte as the input delimiter for column?
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>>57921686
no get it it was a joke, get it, if hes the bait and you replied that makes you the fish user haha
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I've come full circle. After a year of using Linux I've decided to go back to Manjaro. It's so fucking easy to start it up and since it's running on arch it's a lot more lightweight compared to the many distros I've tried

The aur is amazing and the dark theme is comfy for xfce.
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How do I make it so I don't have to type a password everytime I want to do something on Mint?
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>>57921974
ive also gone full circle. i started with linux mint xfce, and here i am back again. i think it looks good and is very user friendly. there will always be that part of me that really wants to try something new though, grass is always greener and this isn't perfect either (absolutely every package is outdated and its pissing me off)
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>>57921974
Arch isn't lightweight.
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>>57922040
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>>57921994
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>>57921994
That's in every Linux distro and it's there for a reason. You can find a way to disable it by googling it but keep in mind you strongly weaken the security of your system by removing it. It's better to get used to it.
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>>57921994
>mint user not concerned about security

nothing to see here
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>>57921771

You can if you want. I think at most you should only dedicate half of your cpu cores.

About the ram, there is an application called htop (install using "sudo apt-get install htop"). It's a command-line system monitor, and it has some graphs for system resources up at the top. You should be able to see that the memory bar is divided into 3 colors: green, blue, and yellow. Iirc, green is how much memory is actually being used, blue is how much has been allocated for buffers (but not used yet), and yellow is how much the OS has set aside for caching purposes. The kernel automatically allocates some memory for use ahead of time, which makes things a little speedier. There might be some way to change how much it allocates, but I'm not sure how.
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>>57922155
Is it bad that i have my password as 1234?
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>>57921994
i know this can be done with visudo, don't know how on mint. arch linux makes it easier to do
>all these replies
>muh linux is about options, but don't do that!
everytime
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>>57922185
I looked up how to do it and was about to, but if it cripples the security I won't. I thought the password was merely for people who physically have the laptop
>>
>>57921994
>>57922104
Also, it's safe enough to remove the password prompt on the screensaver and login screen if it's a desktop and you're the only one using it, but removing the password prompt when it's asking for administrative privileges is a BIG security risk. Remote exploits would become so much easier.

>>57922185
If you're going to neglect the security of the system then you might as well use Windows.
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>>57922226
I'm not using windows because mint is free
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>>57922215
i think people overestimate how much security it will give you. it isn't like the average user downloads anything outside repos. the people are paranoid really
>i need a firewall, even though my router has one!
>i need an antivirus, because im too stupid to use a computer
>>
How does it feel to have fallen for a meme?

>Debian
>Feminism

>Ubuntu
>HAHAHA That's for babies

>Mint
>Horrible Security

>Fedora
>It's Fedora

>Arch
>Edgy

>Manjaro
>Arch for retards

>Gentoo
>Install Gentoo

Why aren't there any good linux distros out there?
>>
>>57922226
>If you're going to neglect the security of the system then you might as well use Windows
i use it for an operating system not for anything that requires security, that logic is flawed, it just does everything i use windows for
>>
>>57922274
Using a 10 year old system with puppy is the most patrician choice desu (to be honest).
>>
How the fuck do I get a list of installed packages in arch INCLUDING aur packages?

I want to back it up so I can reinstall the packages if my machine ever breaks
>>
>>57922342
I HATE DOGS,Senpai.
>>
>>57922274
When you stop basing your choices off of /g/ memes you will finally be free to choose the best distro for you.
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>>57922268
Being proactive about security is not paranoia.

The whole "I use common sense 2016 AV" bullshit is just bait for idiots.
>>
>>57922371
So, I should use Debian?
Or Arch?
I've always wanted to try arch.
>>
>>57922412
You can even try both.
>>
I still don't really understand package managers. I installed ubuntu and the default package manager was working properly for me, so I installed synaptic 9 as i'd used it in mint) and it worked fine.

What's the differences, do they have the same packages or what? Can using multiple PMs cause issues? I only use synaptic now but still did use the default one for a bit. I heard that debian/arch has a metric shit ton of packages, can I use a package manager from those distros on ubuntu to get that goodness?

Also how do packages work for linux anyway, are they distro specific at all? Say a dev writes an application for fedora, does the distro even matter? Do they have to port it to other distros or does it just work on all linux systems?
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>>57922360
pacman -Q

lists all packages istalled with pacman. This includes AUR packages
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>>57922336
>>57922239
If it REALLY bothers you then fine, change your password to something braindead or even completely remove it. Just don't say we didn't warn you if your system gets compromised.

You can get rid of the password prompt in the screensaver and login screen easily through Mint by going to their respective settings (you can even set it to autologin), you can also change your password in the account settings, but you'll have to do some googling to completely remove the root password.
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>>57922455
All debian based distros use apt. Synaptic is a GUI for apt.
You get packages from repository which are on a repo-to-repo basis, but you can use different repos as long as it has packages that are compatible with your distro. A program written on fedora will work on debian, for example. Fedora, however, uses .rpm packages and debian uses .deb packages. So the dev would have to make the two different packages for his program.
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>>57922465
I swear to god I tried that 10 times and it never listed AUR packages
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>>57922381
i will support security and the pursuit to teach people about it but purposefully hiding your option to turn it off defeats the purpose of linux to me. i prefer options above everything, at least windows 7 gave gui options for just about everything which made it feel complete even with intrusive shit like trustedinstaller. people think the way they utilize software is superior and think nobody would want to do anything else, maybe having to reenter a password every 3 minutes is too much security? almost every distro having no option to turn off mouse acceleration or middle mouse emulation because they think everyone only uses it for laptops or obfuscation of your options to for example use proprietary software, users of linux are very closeminded as evidenced by the responses he got. not everything should be accomplished by googling your problems
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>>57922624
just tried it. It lists AUR packages for me
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>>57922657
it's doing it now.

I feel fucking dumb now
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>>57922550
ok thanks. So looking at the installgentoo wiki there are a couple of different types. gentoo specifically is compiled from source, would that mean that if you had the source version of a .deb package you could flag and compile it to gentoo yourself without the dev specifically making it compatible?
>>
>>57922685
Essentially, yes.

You seem new to all of this so I would encourage you to avoid gentoo for the time being.
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>>57922629
You make a good point, but at least the functionality is there to do all this in linux, even if it will require a bit of digging to get working vs checking a box in a gui.

It reminds me of clementine, it has tons of options and buttons for shit I never use, so I tried to get rid of it all to reduce clutter. I couldn't. Checked the forums and tons of people were asking about it. The dev responded by saying if he included an option to hide the clutter then there's a chance people would do it and be too stupid to figure out how to undo it. When probed furhter he basically said if you don't like it then fuck off. That pissed me off just a little bit.
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>>57922767
>tfw there's no decent foobar equivalent in GNU/Linux

I mean I'm using deadbeef but it's buggy and doesn't have as much features.
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>>57922867
i think the only decent audio players on linux are all clients for mpd.

gmpc, ncmcpp, and i'm sure there's something decent for kde.
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>>57922948
cmus is standalone and pretty good.
>>
>>57922948
>kde
mpd client: cantata
audio player: qmmp
>>
>>57923030
i guess

unfortunately it doesn't have the features i'm looking for in a music player like tray icon/controls.
and i find managing large playlists a chore with it

GMPC may look like shit and the UI is almost impossible to customize like you would do with foobar.
But it has every feature I need in a music player AND since it's only a gmpc client it's stable as fuck.

I've had audio players that crashed randomly (deadbeef) and ones that just could not keep up with my large collection and playlists (exaile).

Exaile was almost perfect but fucking hell python just doesn't cut it performance wise.
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I'm installing manjaro.
Wish me luck,/g/.
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>>57923470
It's comfy and easy to use, good choice.

People will give you shit but fuck em.
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>>57923529
:0
Thank you very much senpai.
>>
>>57923529
>comfy
nice meaningless word
>>
>>57923587
How is comfy meaningless? It has a nice colour scheme and the dark theme makes it even comfier.
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>>57923587
>comfy

It's subjective.
>>
I have a working definition of "comfy" if anyone is interested.
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>>57923599
Both "colour scheme" and "dark theme" being good are entirely subjective opinions, especially the latter.
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>>57923620
So, you want me to rephrase my post starting with in my opinion?
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>>57923470
we should sacrifice a goat as offering to the Devs, as added protection that the install goes well.
>>
>>57923667
he just wants your attention
>>
>>57923676
Please do so!
>>
>>57923687
I was 100% serious.
>>
Any BSDfags here? You can compile pretty much everything, right? What's the equivalent of use flags?
And how up to date are the packages?
>>
New thread when?
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>>57923863
now!!! im crashing this thread with no survivors!
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