/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>>57893531
whats a good keyboard like the k70 but better

>>57893569
shine

>>57893569
k71

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What does /mkg/ think of my keyboard?

>>57893589
no forward assist? no suppressor?

>>57893608
kill yourself

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>>57893608
why did you get the worst corsair keyboard?

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>>57893608
>buying a keyboard that wasn't made in America

>>57893608
/pol/ please go

>>57893637
reddit please go

>>57893608
Its the only corsair I'd consider but overall not great for /mkg/
>>57893625
Thats the old shitty version. New one is full mech

I'm looking for something that'd be good for hours of consecutive typing. I'm kind of a sucker for retro shit so I was looking at the Unicomp Model M style stuff (specifically, http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UNI0446).

Are those recommended at all, or would I be better off with a more modern mechanical keyboard?

>>57893654
Go for the Unicomp. Its one of the best keyboards you can buy

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>>57893608
at least get an American or Japanese keyboard

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>>57893609

>>57893690
Yes, we all saw your fleshlight, bro. We were just being courteous and not talking about it.

>>57893690
I don't see threads on the barrel tip, or is there a thread protector on it?

>>57893531
Is the filco model m the best keyboard for a poorfag who wants a decent keyboard for typing and occasional gaymen?

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>>57893688
>>57893645
>>57893637
>>57893636
>>57893625
>>57893613
We have the best switches, don't we folks?

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>>57893718
3 lug quick detach sound moderators are technology.

>>57893760
What are you doing with the gay men that you need a mechanical keyboard for it?

>>57893776
Ah, makes sense. Guess the handguard blocked the lugs from view.

>>57893760
>filco
i meant unicomp
>>57893777
just saying that because apparently that affects the kind of switchs people use

>>57893773
No that would be nintendo, but maybe someday Trump will help us catch up to the Japanese

>>57893776
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to school tomorrow if you are in the northwest

>>57893791
Unicomp has 2kro so it depends on what games you play.

>>57893776
you wouldn't buy a gun with a mechanical trigger

>>57893806
>2kro?
I would be playing FPS games where strafing/jumping while moving forward would be important

>>57893773
We only have one switch, which happens to be the best switch

>>57893839
http://www.keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2016/03/what-is-nkro-our-guide-to-rollover-anti-ghosting-and-choosing-the-right-keyboard/

>>57893822
Guns with Topre triggers when?

>>57893867
Ah, i originally read it as 2k key rollover
my bad

If they can sell full, multi-color 104 key pbt keycap sets on aliexpress for under $30, how aren't there more people out there making decent color schemes or custom sets for cheap?

I'm thinking of getting the cherry corsair strafe, is it any good?

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>>57893800
See you there.

What is up with this Happy Hacking meme?

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>>57894017

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http://www.coolermaster.com/peripheral/keyboards/masterkeys-pro-s/
Been thinking of getting this keyboard are they any good by our standards

>>57894072
So it's just an expensive meme?

>>57894124
It's TKL form factor rather than 75%, so no.

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Alright, about to order this Unicomp unless there's a good reason not to. Will exclusively be used for programming, so the 2KRO isn't an issue.

>>57894141
But its cute

>>57894148
Backspace being the same colour as the alphas rather than the modifiers annoys me more than I thought it would.

Best palce to get keycaps??

>>57894332
FORGE THEM LIKE A BLACKSMITH

>>57894332
Not Signature Plastics/Pimp My Keyboard.

>>57894342
Honestly, the only bad thing about them is how slow they are. The Chinese group buys are just as expensive.

>>57894006
>cherry corsair strafe

cherry what? What kind of switches?

>>57894342
>>57894338
thanks ill check them out

>>57894351
Their quality is not great. I bought a set of PBT keys from them and pretty much every 2u+ key was warped in some way, and the keys smaller than 2u were twisted. For the amount of money you pay, I kinda expect better quality than a garbage $30 set of Chinese caps.

>>57894378
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-STRAFE-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard/dp/B00ZUPOMDQ

>>57894512
Do you know if you would like reds? I'd do the baby's first MK and get browns. They're good.

Nobody here will tell you to buy a keyboard that markets itself as 'gaming' though.

>>57894148
>Will exclusively be used for programming, so the 2KRO isn't an issue
What the actual fuck? What's your definition of programming?

>>57894554
never owned a gaming keyboard so I have no idea what those terms mean, care to link me the keyboard your talking about though?

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Repostan

This will be used as a portable click clack.

>Budget
About $100 +/- 20
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Something quiet but still relatively tactile
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
Not necessary
>Previous/current keyboards
Rubber domes and chiclets

I was thinking of either clears or fake chinese topre.

>>57894608

Read the OP, learn everything. Here's a chart of different Cherry switches.

>>57894638
Clears are better. Non backlit poker 3 W/ clears would be perfect for you

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>>57894654
oops.

Also you can buy a switch tester to see which switch you might like the most

https://www.amazon.com/WASD-6-Key-Cherry-Switch-Tester/dp/B00AZQKCD4

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You guys know if this Ibm Model M 82g3294 is actually mechanical? didn't find anything relevant on the web.

I can get it relatively cheap and seems in good condition aside from the battered cable, which I guess I can replace.

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good night /mkg/

>>57894846
What caps are those >_<

>>57895987
https://www.originativeco.com/products/modern-beige?variant=18906335301

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>>57893531
Not particularly related, but since theres no mice generals:

Who is a good distributor/producer of custom-printed mousepads?

So far I've been browsing Alibaba, but wondering if theres anyone better or things I should look out for.

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>>57893531
Planning on getting a WASD V2 as babby's first non-$20 keyboard.

I'm curious do the optional Sound Dampeners make a difference, both in terms of sound and durability(I have a bad habit of mashing keys)?

>>57894125
I totally don't regret having spent 220 bucks on rubber domes.

Nope, no buyers remorse here at all. It was totally worth it.

>>57896819
I so regretted spending 220 on rubberdome that now I am about to spend 50 more on keycaps and possibly 80 more on silencing rings :^)

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is this shit? got is very cheap, knockoff blue switches don't really care

>>57894638
V60 with matias quiet click

>>57897400
Its a mechanical keyboard for 30 bucks. It doesnt have that many features, but it works just fine and has much better build quality then one would expect

I bought the galaxy night blank Pbt keycaps. Did I do wrong?

>>57897648
Not if you're 12 years old

>>57897660
It speaks to the kid in me who loves astronomy so your assumptions are correct.

>>57897671
not him but then I think you did right anon.

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>>57897387
why didn't you just buy a type s in the first place

>>57899368
Hypersphere are superior to type-s

Also I am not sure yet, I think it kills the sound too much
>Inb4 muh upstroke

>>57899697
>Hypersphere are superior to type-s
say that to my face not online

>>57896426
>sound
yes, it quiets the bottoming out sound, the "clack"
>durability
no, they're just rubber bands installed on the keycaps

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Anyone field test the Cherry MX Silent switches yet? Been looking for alternatives to my membrane for conference calls. I have a high end condenser that normally picks up my cherry reds unless I keep it close to my face.

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Almost 400 orders on Massdrop, good work guys.

>>57900186
If you want cherry silent switches why are you getting a corsair?

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>>57894011
someone has a cat i can see

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>>57894148
Get it, i love mine. Only thing that annoy me is there is no badge...

>>57900242
This model uses them

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>>57894017
>>57899368
>tfw my $2 btc dome with slider keyboard is superior to these $300 "happy hacking~ xD" weebkeebs.
feelsgoodman.

>>57900535
But there are other better made keyboards like Filco and Leopold that also have silent switches

>>57894148
My Unicomp's keys stopped functioning after 2 years. I kept that fucking thing pristine. They have zero quality standards, and their keys don't feel like or sound like a real IBM model M. They may be using buckling spring, but they take a lot less actuation force to press down than the original model M. You can get one if you want, but you should be aware of these facts before hand.

>>57900568
Let me guess you got the shitty space saver instead of the classic

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why would anyone ever spend more than ten bucks on rubber domes

RUBBER DOMES(!)

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>>57900577
Nope, got the classic.

>>57900687
dude no wonder it isnt working you need to assemble it hahah fucking nooob

>>57900687
they use plastic or metal rivets?

>>57900719
Unicomp keyboards come pre-assembled. I took it apart to try to fix it a while back, never got around it it; the task seemed too daunting.

>>57900727
plastic

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God i hate mechanical keyboards
currently using a steelseries with cherry mx red
are those switches even good?
because it feels like ass aids and my ears ring if you type at a reasonable rate

Pic related is unironicly the most comfortable keyboard with super comfy chiclet keys.


Fuck you and your dumb mechanical shit

>>57894638
kbparadise v60

>>57900786
You know there are other mechanical switches

>>57900786
Maybe try something other than a light linear switch then?

>>57900786
Linear switches are shit, try tactile

>>57900786
Reds are ass-tier lowest end of the spectrum linear key switches marketed for gaymers. They are absolutely not recommended if you are using it for anything other than gaming. It's not a keyboard for typing at all.

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>>57900786

>>57900543
gommies >>/out/

>>57894668
Wow that's an old image

>>57894693
Yeah, that one looks like a Model M. The shape of the case is a dead giveaway. The M2 was the one to watch out for, with the rubber dome internals and leaky caps. The original Model M always had buckling springs.

>>57896426
WASDs are all right. The case design is austere, professional-looking, and solidly built. Backlight options are slim (white only, on the CODE version only). The price is kind of high compared to Ducky and Filco stuff.

O-rings are crude, and kind of pointless from my perspective. Zealencios are a superior design all around, because they silence the upstroke, but they're as expensive as switches. A cheaper option is to get a KBP with Matias Quiet Clicks. A few people here have done that.

I'm going to pull the trigger on an Ergodox 80 key. Do any anons with Gateron Clears/Whites have experience with the best kind of keycaps for said switches?

I ran across a thread once saying that Gaterons could get stuck on certain cherry caps. Could have been hokey or a totally isolated incident. Either way I'd rather order the key caps I need just once.

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>>57893531
>budget
100$

>location
Poland

>preffered switch type
I have no idea what's the difference between blue and brown switches except sound but blue I guess

>layout
ANSI

>form factor
100% or 80%

>backlight
Yes

>current keyboard
Some shitty >10$ keyboard

I was thinking about getting pic related, what are your thoughts /g/?

Anne pro worth a shit?

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>>57901180
This should explain the difference for you

>>57900543
Those keycaps look pretty awesome. Dye sub PBT, I'm guessing.

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>>57894152
It will never get cuter than this :^)

>>57901403
Even if I wanted medium tactile, clicky and all stiff ones the only ones I can get here normally are red black blue and brown.

I'm gonna stay with the blue ones tho.

>>57901403
That chart is a little misleading, greens and whites are the exact same weight.

>>57901449
Pad printed ABS.

>>57901403
Retarded chart, why did you leave out Gat clears and Topre?

just ordered an RK-9000v2 from amazon with red switches

am i going to have a good time anons??

>>57901501
Didn't make the chart, and this is clearly just to explain Cherry switches. Nice meme

>Budget
150 eur ~
>Location (continent at least)
West europe
>Preferred switch type
MX clears
>Layout
ansi US
>Form factor
60% or TKL
>Backlight
a plus, not necessary
>Previous/current keyboards
K95 with mx reds

>>57894148
The 2KRO is almost never an issue, even if you play games. Most key combinations in games involve modifier keys, which aren't counted in rollover. Using a unicomp right now; shit's awesome and a good deal if you're in the US.

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Anyone have some good suggestions some decent PBT caps that I can use on my backlit rosewill keyboard? Obviously, (since I'm using a rosewill) the less expensive the better.

>>57901890
I have problems playing BF3 sometimes, but i really like the keyboard so i dont really care

>>57893589
fuck you and your nice shit

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>>57902029
>those caps
>nice shit

>>57902131
Uhhh buddy. Carbon gmks are yawn tier, pal. So many redditors played them out.

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you just don't understand

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>>57902352
sure

>>57902454
Gross

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cant wait for my springs to arrive to convert my old mx blue board into ghetto greens
gonna be a decent weekend

>>57902804
can you do this to any cherry switches? I got a full Filco for very cheap but it's disgusting reds

>>57902829
yes but it requires you desolder the keys.

>>57902829
yes, prepare to desolder and solder
for mx reds, i guess you can swap with stiffer springs to make it a vintage mx black board.
for ghetto greens, youd need the mx blue stems for the click and tactility

>>57902869
>vintage mx blacks
xd

>>57902804
>72g
>green

This is barely heavier than blues. Lighter than blacks, actually.

You would need at least 82-85g springs to replicate cherry greens.

>>57902855
>>57902869
fuck, that's quite a lot of precision work for someone that can't into soldering well

It makes sense that blues would be easier to make into greens

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>>57902922
i wouldnt say 72g is barely heavier than stock blues, but itd be definitely lighter than real mx greens.
i kept this in mind, and got the 72g so itd come out less stiff than real greens. i have sensitive fingers anon.

>>57902829
forogt to mwntion, but you can always buy gayteron switches for cheaper and replace the reds

>>57902955
One of the upsides of Alps switches (and Alps clones like Matias) is you can open them and replace stuff without disassembling the entire board.

There are also boards with hot-swappable sockets for Cherry switches, and plates cut to allow easy switch removal, but they're not cheap.

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I've been typing on my first mechanical keyboard for about 2 months now, which has Kailhua Reds.

I am now sure that Reds are not for me. Without the tactile bump (as with rubber domes) I'm always bottoming which slows me down and causes typos. I guess I'm a heavy typist.
If I type lightly without clacking the fuckers, I just miss about 40% of the letters.

Having said that, I ask what is your recommendation for the next installment of the search for my endgame.
I might try blues, but I wouldn't be able to use them at the office.
Browns come to mind, but nobody here seems to like that switch.
Clears are a strong candidate, but they're rare.

I also have a switch tester on the way which might help me decide. Will probably go for actual cherry mx or gateron, this time around. So here it goes:

If you are thinking about buying a mechanical keyboard and want us to help you choose, format your post as follows.

>Budget
Up to 100€ (including shipping)
>Location (continent at least)
Europe.
>Preferred switch type
Don't know yet, needs to be tactile.
>Layout
Prefer ISO, but don't really give a shit.
>Form factor
With or without numpad, whichever is cheaper. Needs to have function keys.
>Backlight
Might be nice, but not required. No RGB.
>Previous/current keyboards
Lolita Spyder Nopoo, Kailh Reds.

Fucked up my previous post.

>>57903267
buckling springs seem like the perfect switch for you friend

>>57903267
Save up and buy a realforce for 230€

Mock me all you want, you won't find true happiness until topre, I know how you feel

>>57903267
>office
Would you consider Matias Quiet Clicks?

>>57903267
>>57903297
>office
oops didnt read that part nvm

>>57903267
gateron browns?

>>57903189
was aware of the hotswappable variants (pcb mounted vs plate mounted variant iirc) of cherry boards but didn't know Alps were modular
Thanks for the info
>>57903119
that's always an option if you're going as far as desoldering

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>>57903313
Probably won't fit my budget.

>>57903299
If I buy a 230€ keyboard and it's not perfect, I might just kill myself.

>>57903367
How are they compared to cherry browns?

>>57903436
Cherry browns have a reduced tactile bump compared to other tactile switches. Gateron browns don't. They also use different materials, so Gaterons have smoother stems all around.

>>57903267
>>57903299
no find a btc dome with slider for 5 bucks

https://youtube.com/watch?v=TK7oaCQ-SGM&feature=youtu.be

>>57903267
just buy a switch tester and see which switch you like the most instead of wasting money.

If you like rubberdome go with topre and never look back.

w2b leopold FC 660C in europe

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>his keyboard doesn't have a sushi key

>>57903504
This actually seems to be a great option. Will search for cheap btc with slider. Is that all I must search for? "With slider"?

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>>57900855
I thought the original Model M also came in rubber dome?

This one is manufactured by Lexmark in '94 according to the sticker. It's Latin-American layout if it matters.

Also it seems that this model has the cable attached as opposed to the SDL plug older models have.

Would I have a tough time replacing the cable? I'm kinda decent with basic electronics if I need to build a custom one or something.

>>57903546
eBay

But buy a hhkb

>>57894555
What are you talking about? You can absolutely program just fine with 2KRO. Even games are fine for the most part.

>>57903546
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1495

>>57903603
yes, here is more info on them

https://deskthority.net/wiki/BTC_dome_with_slider

>>57903618
Model M rubber domes are pretty rare. As far as I know they all have serial numbers of the format 7xGxxxx or 0xMxxxx.

>>57903730
Thanks for the input, I might just buy this one then and then see what to do with the cable (could I just remove the rubber coat and maybe flex it?)

>>57903551
cute

>>57893589

Is that an AR15

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do you guys know if these will fit on my model m2?

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/RGB

should i buy ergodox blank dsa caps for 70€ or is there a cheaper way?

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>>57903683
Thanks, but after a brief search, I think they're too rare to be worried with. Also, old ones are only PS2. which I don't want.

Are there, by any change, any other rubber domes worth buying? Something like a poor man's Topre.

>>57904427
There are clones of Topre that get pretty close. Look for the Plum 84/87, the Royal Kludge RC930, and the ABKO Hacker series.

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Can someone tell me what keyboard this is?

>order keyboard with brown switches for work
>seems pretty loud
>pop off a key cap
>blue switchs
Fugg :DDD
at least no one has complained yet

>>57900687
Could you put a Model M faceplate on that? Would it fit?

>>57894148
Other than the windows keys I don't get the point. Used, clean IBM keebs sell for the same amount, are basically guaranteed to work, and have way better feel and build quality.

Also that LED panel and Unicomp logo is ugly as sin.

>>57905323
Kek

>>57905461
A Model M is slightly more expensive, and you need to bolt mod it if you wanna open it up to make sure it's clean/to clean it. Also, with a Model M, there is always a small risk of leaking capacitors or stuff like that, they are after all quite old.

Old Model Ms do look better though, and feel better, and and I'd take one over one of the Unicomps any day. But the Unicomps are a good second choice, if you can't get a Model M.

>>57905433
Depends, but probably not. They changed around the plastic case a lot during the fourth generation Lexmark Ms and even more so on the Unicomps.

>>57905538
M2s are the ones with the capacitor issues. Regular Ms with bad caps are exceptionally rare.

Right around the time they made the switch to the blue IBM badge (and subsequent handing over manufacturing duties to Lexmark) is when build quality started going down. Generally, the cases got creakier, the keycap printing got cheaper (no more colored text) and the springs got higher pitched, heavier and bottomed out harder.

>>57905622
>Depends, but probably not. They changed around the plastic case a lot during the fourth generation Lexmark Ms and even more so on the Unicomps.

Bummer. Would be nice to pit the faceplace of a broken model M on some fresh hardware.

>>57905622
>Right around the time they made the switch to the blue IBM badge (and subsequent handing over manufacturing duties to Lexmark) is when build quality started going down. Generally, the cases got creakier, the keycap printing got cheaper (no more colored text) and the springs got higher pitched, heavier and bottomed out harder.

Is this true?

I've got a blue logo 1995 model M underway.

I used to have a 1988 or something model M, I thought they were the same.

Anyone have some good keycaps for poker 3? I really like the stock ones but they're already visibly fading

>>57906454
7bit Round 5

>>57906454
G20 at pmk

>buy leopold fc500 years and years ago
>over the course of that time, spill multiple cups of coffee and drinks directly into the keyboard
>at one point drop it, right side is cracked open
>starts malfunctioning recently, seems like its completely broken
>throw it in the freezer for a few hours, it's covered in condensation
>leave it out
>works good as new a day later
I love this keyboard

>>57907612
>throw it in the freezer for a few hours, it's covered in condensation
Why did you try this?

Does /mkg/ use a wrist rest?

And is it possible to buy a wrist rest separately? I recently switched to a different keyboard that doesn't have one and I'm finding that my hand gets a bit tired when typing for a long time without it.

>>57907643
I don't really know. I remember throwing my monitor in the freezer because ants that were inside it, so I thought something might just be living inside the keyboard as well.

>>57907656
Definitely not possible. There's no way someone would try to sell such a commonly used item, don't be ridiculous. And their definitely aren't a ton of options, like wood, leather, cloth, foam, etc.

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>>57907656
>I remember throwing my monitor in the freezer because ants that were inside it

?? ?

>>57907667
For proper typing you shouldn't use a wrist rest as it causes rsi. Your hands should hover over the keyboard

>>57907742
why not use a wrist rest that leaves your hands in the same position as they would be when hovering?

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>>57905461
The LED panel doesn't actually look like that anymore, they just haven't changed their store pics yet. Here's my ultraclassic manufactured in September. On the other hand I can confirm the case is a bit creaky, and my escape key sometimes double-presses. The first problem can maybe be avoided by getting the non-ultra classic (like the anon you replied to) since from what I've heard it's closer to the original design. The second is probably just my keyboard specifically. However, I'm quite satisfied with it overall. Though I do generally avoid using my desktop at 3 AM since my entire hall would know I'm up late fucking around on the computer.

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>>57907780
Thats a pretty big wrist rest. Just google keyboard posture and see the results you get

>>57907739
There were ants that I could see on the screen, but were behind the first clear layer on the screen, so I couldn't brush them off. Just waited until I couldn't see them behind the screen, and threw it in the freezer.

>>57907834
where could i get a desk like top left?

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>>57907899
You mean a modern office desk? You can get them at staples

>>57907949
fuckin straya being so behind, they had nothing like that at the only office supply stores near me

it's annoying because i can't type on a regular desk properly, to get my elbow up high enough i have to splay my arms out a heap so bent wrists are unavoidable (unless i switch to a split keyboard, which might end up costing more than a new desk)

>>57907834
did the person who make this image know armrests exist?

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Let me start off by clearing something up right now: THIS IS NOT A NUMBER PAD! Rama didn’t just “forget” to add the rest of the keys. Please bear that in mind. Time and time again I see people commenting "it needs more buttons, that's not enough for a number pad." Well, you know what? It's not meant to be a number pad.

Can it be used as one? Sure!

Is it the world's most functional number pad? No! If that's what you're looking for, keep looking.

Instead, this product is a piece of art and a vision - the heart and soul of what this community represents. In recent years, our enthusiast-grade hobby has been changing and evolving. More and more consumers are focusing on aesthetics of their keyboards and accessories, as opposed to strictly functionality. We see this every single day with different keyboard form-factors, aftermarket parts and, let's be honestly, VERY expensive keysets. Personally, I don't see this as a problem, as long as we don't forget where we came from. A mechanical keyboard is supposed to be comfortable, durable, and tuned to your preferences.

>>57907995
Considering the bottom right diagram has the person using armrests, I'm gonna say no.

>>57907793

I had two of those things in black and they both died on me.

Now I have a $10 Microsoft-branded membrane keyboard and I'm honestly much happier with it.

>>57907995
m8 its just a screenshot of google images. I didnt make shit

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Mechanical keyboards are something you want to use. You crave typing on them, because they're just so different and exciting compared to those cheap rubber dome afterthoughts. For this reason, some of us shell out hundreds and hundreds of dollars on keyboards when we can arguably get the same functionality for a tiny fraction of the cost.

This minipad represents Rama's vision, and what a vision it is. When I said this was a piece of artwork, I wasn't kidding. The aesthetics are a harmonious blend of retro and modern that fit the artist's style completely. Rama is a fun and quirky guy with an undeniable passion for this community and the ability to make his art a reality for people like you and I.

Rama's work has always been seen as premium, and this product is no exception. The pad is properly hefty. It has a weight to it that I'd describe as "just right". While not the heaviest piece of metal I've ever picked up, it gives you a sense that you're getting what you paid for. At, $100+ depending on configuration, you REALLY want that feeling, because you can buy more than one entry-level mechanical keyboard for this price. This feels as if it will last you your lifetime, and you could easily pass this down to your children and their children after that.

>You crave typing on them, because they're just so different and exciting compared to those cheap rubber dome afterthoughts.

>>57907994
To be fair the one I posted is like 800 bucks since its one of those motorized meme standing/sitting desk combos. You can get the non meme ones for much much cheaper

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For starters, there is no switch-plate, which means when you bottom-out the keys, the switches themselves absorb all of the impact. This isn't really a problem for the switches, as they're designed to be able to take it, but it alters the typing experience. On most keyboards, there is a switch-plate above the PCB where the switches sit to keep them stable, better the typing experience and absorb some of the shock from smashing keys. The plates are often made from aluminum, steel, or some form of plastic - all of them offering a minor change in feeling, but a major change in acoustics. Bottoming-out on this minipad just feels a bit lackluster to me, because there is no substantial plate to absorb the impact and give me that particular brand of resistance. It makes the press feel a bit more plain and because of how much extra space is in the minipad, sound fairly hollow.

You might be thinking "Who cares what it sounds like? That should have nothing to do with a keyboard!"

Well, you're not entirely wrong there, but this is an enthusiast-grade product and I, an enthusiast, am reviewing it. So deal with it!

We all have our favorite sound, whether it be the satisfying smack of linears against stainless steel, the muted thump against aluminum or the loud pop against acrylic. Sound can be essential to the overall keyboard typing experience, and it's important to me. Unfortunately, I just don't get any of the powerful sounds I crave with this minipad. Of course, your mileage may vary.

>tfw no powerful sounds that you crave

>>57908115
Meme dememeified, in the meme memer thread of memers.

>>57908158
Have you ever seen a meme so supreme you let out a scream?

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>>57908158

Overall, this product is a real joy. It's one of the most gorgeous keyboards I've ever laid eyes on and the build-quality is equally as impressive.

You could argue that this comes at the cost of functionality, but really it just depends on how you view it. This isn’t a number pad, and it’s not meant to solve all of your life’s problems or replace your keyboard.

So, why would you want this, who is the M10-A really for? Well, anyone that benefits from more fully programmable keys and would like some serious keyboard sex appeal at a reasonable price! Gamers, programmers and content creators alike can all benefit from the M10-A. Or you could just be like me and use it to macro smack-talk to the enemy team in Overwatch! “GG, I was playing with one hand, ya newbz!”

>tfw you have serious keyboard sex appeal at a reasonable price and no cheap rubber dome afterthoughts

>>57902829
>Not enjoying a Filco style Cherry Red kb.
Lm my ao de su

>>57908181
This meme looked me right in the meme part of my brain and asked me: "Meme". Not just the old "meme", but a deep resonating "Meme". I'm sitting here memeing, when really the meme has already been mummed, the meme morph is currently memeing it's way around the meme mainland of meme supreme memers.

>>57894638
Magicforce 68

Is bottoming out bad for the switches or keys? I have used reds for a long time and I fucking love hammering down on them. Really satisfying

>>57908251
Nope. Clack away my friend!

>>57908251
Nothing wrong with bottoming out reds.
The beauty of light linears is choosing between clacking hard when you want, and having a completely silent typing experience when you need it.

Is topre worth 200?

>>57909157
only if you want cheap rubber dome afterthoughts

>>57909157
Only if you feel like overpaying for rubber domes.

>>57909157
just buy a $10 rubber dome keyboard and a $190 onahole

>>57893873
I feel like there is a significant overlap in the high end guns and keyboard market. this would be a good product.

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>>57902454
>>57902734

>>57909751
That must be a Matias switch. Real Alps weren't half so wobbly.

>>57909191
but isn't it better to spend $200 fucking yourself?

>>57900186
I haven't had any problems with it and i have the same setup as you.

Don't keyboards with backlight + underglow kill USB? I mean they draw way more than 500mA for sure since 8 ws2812 leds draw close to 460mA at full brightness not including the led backlight per key.

>>57900186

I've given them a try, definitely quieter than Cherry Reds. Would recommend just getting a Leopold with the MX Silents though, they have a sound dampening mat that helps as well.

>>57901180

Get an updated MasterKeys Pro M, looks less like shit.

>>57901932

Gateron Blanks

>>57900786
unironically this is a good keyboard for grills with long nails

>>57893688
What keycaps are those?

>>57911123
I doubt that. Grills with long nails generally struggle to use the touchscreen on their smartphones, why would a chiclet thing be any better?

>>57910974
Pls respond ;_;

>>57900191
>400 orders

The world is lost.

>>57911821
dude with long nails here

chiclets allow for touch typing by resting my fingernails on the keyboard and gesturing my hands toward the letters I want to press

long nails on right hand because I play classical guitar.

>>57912818
>long nails on right hand because I play classical guitar.

Still disgusting.

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>mfw waiting for the mailman to pick up my magicforce68 so I can return it to Amazon and get my money back

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I am thinking of buying mx stems and this keycap set to put on my hhkb.

do you think it would be a good idea?
it is cherry profile btw

>>57913095
Get a Realforce RGB instead.

>>57913095
>cherry profile
Terrible idea. Give me flat profiles or give me death.

>>57913118
Topre profile is similar to Cherry

>>57913108
>Get a Realforce RGB instead.

I don't need all those unnecessary keys and the stupid leds.

>>57913171
It's time to move up to a big boy keyboard.

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SHIEEEEETTT

just bought some new keycaps for my (currently blank) hhkb

>>57900076
>>durability
>no, they're just rubber bands installed on the keycaps
But shouldn't they soften the impact of mashing the key down?

>>57913072
What's wrong with magi Force?

>>57913828
Its not that big of a differance.

>>57913828
Cherry switches already last decades. If anything the rubber o-ring is going to give out before the switches do.

>>57912665
The world was already lost when people started spending more than 50 dollars on a keyboard.

Check your head.

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>>57914427
I got my memeboard for less then 30 bucks. Some memeboards sell for $100+, but thats because they are better then mine

>>57914427
So since the beginning then? Remember that the model F (when adjusted for inflation) costed $900.

>>57914447
But the tomoko keycaps are fucking horrible so you have at least to buy a new set. Not to mention the bulky usb cable.

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Dell AT101 clicky switch mod, repaint, recable.

>>57913235
Where do I get these caps

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>>57914117
>What's wrong with magi Force?
the magicforce is a good board and inexpensinve to get into the game but had some glaring defects FOR ME:

- gateron clears were too light

I would have gotten used to it, yes, but I would never have loved them, also going back and forth between them and topre would have been a pain

- rattling stabilizers on large keys.

This is mostly a cherry issue, and topre spoiled me

- it was neither a 60% nor a TKL, so shopping for keys would have been awkward.
I'd have to spend for a tkl set and then not use 16 keys

- the fn layer was absolute crap

- funnily enough, I am not used to have dedicated arrows anymore, and looking for those keys outside of homerow seemed like a stretch everytime now

>>57914469
Who cares bruh

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>>57914579
>Who cares bruh
wrong thread buddy

>>57900786
>uses reds
>complains
wew lad
>>57901103
for an ergodox just make sure you get blank keycaps and i would recommend DSA for them. tactile switches are nicer imo but you might enjoy how light your gateron clears are. Does thr 80key one really have 80 keys or rather 80 switches? If it does would it still properly work with unmodified qmk firmware?
>>57901485
just get a gh60 and diy a bit.
>>57903220
Did you hear about gateron browns? Might be to your liking. Maybe get a tester with gaterons.
>>57908050
Rama a shit

>>57914539
>Where do I get these caps
you don't

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_5

>>57914427
I think there is a certain threshold for finding the perfect keyboard for you. I'd mine is between 10 and 80 dollars. I would not give 200 for a keyboard, no matter how good it was. For some people it's up to 300.

Then there's people to who this is a hobby. Hobby prices are completely subjective, but then a hobbyist can't talk shit about the feel of the keyboard to someone who just wants a comfortable keyboard.

>>57914625
The price is not governed by what you pay for it. It is demand and availability, and availability is governed by how much it costs to make them + live from it.
just so you don't get confused.

>>57914668
>lambda for L, you know like the video-game Half Life?? XDDD

>>57914595
Funny since it was this general that recommended it for me and gave me the coupon.

>>57914702
no.

an iPhone costs 100$ to make, but can be sold at 700$ because people are willing to pay the price.

>>57914702
Exactly. So, a piece of shit keyboard can be very expensive because it's not in high demand.

>>57914705
are you very stupid?
the whole set is made as an homage to the game.

Csn i just take the switches of one board and put it in another by just de soldering and soldering?
>>57914725

>>57914725
>the whole set is made as an homage to the game.

Exactly my point. In trying to do an homage to the video-game, it turned out childish and cheesy.

>>57914756
>childish and cheesy
videogames are childish and degenerate.

Can't really create a "mature" product to homage them.

>>57914764
You could be subtle instead of using a symbol for which most people don't even know it stands for and is only identified because it was in a video-game. Drop the lambda and you have a good looking keyboard that does that homage.

>>57914787
last reply to this:

the lambda key was part of an extra to the set, the regular alphas had an L key.

>>57914764
>videogames are childish and degenerate.
It's time for your nap, grandpa. You can yell at clouds afterwards.

>>57914717
Because people pay for it. I am merely saying that this is only one of the price factors, not the only one.
>>57914718
High demand+low availability=high prices
Low demand+high availability=lowering prices
Low demand+low availability=fair price from both sides usually if there is no monopoly involved because low amount production is expensive.

>>57914798
>muh videogames can be art

read a good novel, if you can pay attention to anything for more than 20 seconds at a time, kid

>>57914801
>if there is no monopoly involved
yes and keycap market is pretty much a monopoly, since each set is only done by a single company and in limited runs most of the time.

>>57914801
It still doesn't justify opening your ass to whichever price they put in front of you. Think of the value you give a product and only then compare it to the price asked.

>>57914803
I'm reading the gulag archipelago right now actually. You're still a cranky grandpa who's yelling at kids on his lawn.

>>57914803
Funny since some of these video games have more reading then your average book

>>57914797
I only said it looked like shit, you don't have to justify.

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>>57914817
brb burning the Congress Library

we can read The Witcher 3 dialogues now xD

>>57914811
This is not how the price is formed, this is how your budget is formed. It has nothing to do with the product involved. Either you pay the minimum amount you can for a set product or you pay a set amount of money for the best product you can get for it, and if you want decent caps, a switchplate, programability and your switches for a keyboard you need to set your budget according to it.

>>57914839
I never played the witcher series, but there are other video games you know. Also what kind of special retard are you?

>>57914839
The witcher series is a book made a few games. You couldn't have looked any more silly.

>>57914855
>and if you want decent caps, a switchplate, programability and your switches for a keyboard you need to set your budget according to it

First of all, not all that is expensive is good.

Second, I was not talking about the fixed price, I was talking about the value each person gives to the product, thus the threshold. 90% of the times, buying something that is in the 5% most expensive of its category is retarded. (percentages pulled out of my ass, but you get the picture)

>>57914896
>the value each person gives to the product

I love reading poorfags trying to sound logic

nobody cares about your opinion pal,
either you have the money or you don't.
The market won't bargain with you

value, morals and other leftist shit don't come into the equation

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>>57914937
>no argument
>resorts to name calling

>>57914937
>The market won't bargain with you
Not him, but wat?

>>57914944
>name calling
being poor is a fact not an insult

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>>57914987
>"I think A because of B"
>HURR IT DOESN'T MATTER, YOU'RE POOR AND THINGS ARE LIKE THIS BECAUSE I SAY SO

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>>57914996

>>57915008
>hobby

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I've found an old IBM keyboard on my garage; the only stamp in the back it has says "Part No: 1399570"

It's a buckling-spring keyboard and has a coiled cable. How can I know what Model it is?

>>57915008
Maybe I should get in early on these artisan keycaps so I can rake in the dosh months later.

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>>57915031

>>57915045
>How can I know what Model it is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard#Identification

>>57914896
Not all that is expensive is good but most good things come at a price. For example, the standard controller for high end diy keyboards is the teensy 2, which you get between 7 and 20€, a pcb is between 15 and 30€ if you don't diy it, 80 gateron switches are 15-30€, A switchplate 10-20€, a whole cap set is between 20 and 100€ (thanks monopolies and oligopolies on caps), your diodes, cables and solder go for maybe 2-10€, a case is 5-120€ in production value depending on material and type, 120€ would be for something like a custom wooden or whole metal ergodox case from your local craftsmen.
these things add up and leave little space for price negotiation. the market doesn't care about your budget if nobody can produce in the quality you want for as cheap as you want.
Coming from someone that would be a "commie" for US people.

>>57915045
>>57915067
Thing is, there are different part numbers for the same model, depending on the language scheme

>>57915072
>the market doesn't care about your budget

You keep repeating the same shit but you don't understand my position. I separate myself from the market. The market offers and I react. Simple.

>>57915119
>You keep repeating the same shit
Anonymous is more than one person.

>he has some cringy skull artisan keycap for his esc

off yourself

>>57915161
"you" is used for plural

>>57893531
>Just felt my first press of the noppo chink mini browns after ordering it as my first mech memeboard.
>First press of a mechanical keyboard since using them as a kid presumably, in the 90's.

That's actually some really tactile shit compared to what I've been using all this time. Are non-chink switches any different? Went for browns because I'm not a fan of noise + said they were good for games.

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Which keyboard would /mkg/ recommend for simple programming and fast typing in general?

I am a mechanical keyboard rookie, but I do have a load of money to spare.

The internet recommended me THIS. What does /mkg/ think about it?

>>57894011
AND ALL THE OTHER KIDS WITHT HE PUMPED UP KICKS BETTER RUN BETTER RUN FASTER THAN MY CRAWLING IN MY SKIN THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

Apply to kill yourself :3

>>57915213
Dennis.

Stop.

>>57915211
Overpriced. If you want a full size board pick up a ducky with PBT caps or something.

>>57915211
>and fast typing
fastest typing keyboards are scissor switches because of short travel.

plus they have a rubberdome, instead of a shitty switch ;^)

>>57915211
>fast typing
Maltron with malt layout, otherwise maybe a low travel switch like cherry ml. Which would be handy si nce you can pick up a g84-4100 for like 20 quid

>>57911807
Those are just high profile real force keycaps

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>mfw hhkb is so beautiful that mx peasants try and imitate it

>>57915417
>>57915428
that thing is like twice the thickness of the HHKB. How is it supposed to be comfortable?

>>57915417
I'll never understand the meme of wasting space on the bottom row.

>>57915365
What's cherry ml?

>>57915443
Probably by not wresting your wrists on your desk as you type. Which is what you should be doing anyway.

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>>57915211
With every iteration of the DAS keyboard, the build quality decreases, yet the price stays the same. Also ask yourself this, do you really need a laser etched sticker

>>57915450
Low profile cherry switch.

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_ML

>>57915445
>I'll never understand the meme of wasting space on the bottom row.

Since I can't get used to the "left fn" key instead of windows key, I now have two windows key on the bottom of my hhkb

you could say I have too many keys there already.

>>57915450
cherry makes other switches then just MS. They have ML and MY switches. Also just use google
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_ML

>>57915450
a low profile mechanical keyboard switch. Just check one out, these were in every server room once. But if you are searching for endgame and a good typing experience i would really recommend getting a testing unit for a maltron with malt layout.

>>57915470
>cherry makes other switches then just MS
meant MX

>>57915455
but its also angled and not flat, which is still bad for you

>>57915455
You have to rest your wrists on something or you're gonna get fucked. Resting on a lower level will fuck up your hands and wrists, hovering on the keyboard will fuck up your elbows and shoulders.

>>57915501
>hovering on the keyboard will fuck up your elbows and shoulders.
dyel

>>57915493
Yea. It's why a lot of the time when some nice looking custom aluminum board came around I knew I wouldn't like it since it'd be angled 11 degrees or something like that. Staggered layout is shit too, just saiyan.

>>57915504
no it wont

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>>57915511
I wonder why ortholinear keyboards aren't as popular

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>>57915511
>>57915493
>>57915443
you guys are acting like the actual hhkb does not look like that already

>>57915501
Palmrests are good.

>>57915515
Yes it will. You need to rest the weight of your arms somewhere or you'll strain a point in your kinetic chain. I talk from experience.

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>>57915542
>Palmrests are good.

>>57915539
It'd be helpful if the angle was specified for these custom boards. A lot of the time it isn't though.

>>57915535
Because it takes a week to get used to and it is nit what everyone learns typing on. Just like why people use qwerty.

>>57915535
>upside down caps for no reason at all

So random xDDDDD

>>57915565
Why would palmrests be bad? Your hand is cushioned by muscle instead of your strings and nerves like with wristrests and you don't have your arms in a constant stress position like with just hovering all the time. While typing: no resting, after typing: palmrest

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[spoiler]CLINK GOES MY BONES [spoiler]AND MY KEYBOARD[/spoiler][/spoiler]

>>57915620
>While typing: no resting, after typing: palmrest

after typing I go back to my dick thank you very much

>>57915646
:^)

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>>57915661
;^)

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>>57915706
how feminine is your penis?

>>57915749
wait since when you also had a tada68?

what switches

>>57915759
gateron clears.

>>57915768
gross.

In fact, I just got rid of mine, thank you mailman