/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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I've been dual-booting Ubuntu GNOME and Manjaro GNOME on my test laptop for a couple weeks, trying to decide which I want to use as my first main Linux distro on my main laptop. I've fallen madly in love with pacman and the AUR, though I've been told that I shouldn't go with an Arch-based distro as my first. What do you think? So far, both distros have been working fine - though sometimes Ubuntu GNOME gives me a "system program problem detected" message on boot which... I THINK has something to do with my graphics drivers. Though I've never noticed anything acting out of the ordinary.
Also, I'd try Fedora 25, but it doesn't have proprietary NVIDIA drivers, and the free drivers for my main laptop's graphics card don't work well.

>>57849656
>I've fallen madly in love with pacman and the AUR
>AUR
>no security audits
>the repo equivalent of an Iraqi bazaar
>fallen in love

Arch is a hobbyist distro. Basically anything other than Debian, Ubuntu or Red Hat are hobbyist distros not meant for serious use.

>>57849656
Ubuntu's equivalent of AUR are the PPA's.
Fedora's equivalent of AUR are the COPR.

The important difference being both PPA and COPR build the packages for you and you don't have to compile them.

Fedora doesn't have any proprietary software save for binary kernel blobs because they're owned by redhat, which is US based company and they have to respect retarded american patent system.
There's a 3rd party repository for Nvidia drivers for Fedora.

Go for *buntu.

>>57849711
>Go for *buntu.
I've also heard that Ubuntu is unstable with pretty much any DE except Unity. Thoughts on this?

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>>57849656
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Does anybody here have experience with using Ubuntu with a Lenovo Flex 4, or a simimlar '2 in 1 laptop/tablet'? Can you point me in the direction needed to get Ubuntu to recognize when im in 'Tablet Mode'? When i was using win10, it would go into tablet mode when the screen flipped passed a certain angle, like 180 degress or something and it would disable the keyboard and trackpad so the key wouldnt get pressed while it sits on your lap or table. I spent a few hours googling last night with no success. Any advice at all would be appreciated. Ill probably end up having to ask on an IRC or something, im really hoping this wont be too much of a hassle.

http://terriblelinuxwallpaper.tumblr.com/

>>57849750
There's a reason why windows is installed in the first place.

>>57849841
Ill probably go back to it if i cant figure this out, i really wanted to give Ubuntu a shot with what i have though.

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Anon, i want to learn perl for scripting and math, but my friends recently said it is shit so i lost all of my motivation.
Please say something good about this weird camel language. Thank you.

>>57849727
I run xfce and its perfectly stable (16.04)

>>57849727
Nope. Ubuntus desktop manager Unity is stable. It just looks shit.

>>57849969
you friends are the problem. backup you memories then switch to new friends. i'd recommend hipsters.

>>57849969
Python is even more shit.

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Threadly reminder that Linux Mint is literally the worst distro.
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4v116g/can_we_stop_recommending_linux_mint/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/canonical-dev-dont-use-linux-mint-online-banking-unsecure

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/why-the-linux-mint-hack-is-an-indicator-of-a-larger-problem/

https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

https://github.com/linuxmint/mdm
https://packages.debian.org/source/jessie/mdm

>copy file with rsync or with scp
>the SOURCE file's hash changes

Honestly, I don't know what to do any more. HOW can the SOURCE file change after making a copy of it somewhere? As far as I know, its hash (sha1) shouldn't be affected by metadata, right? So how does it change?!

>>57849969
just do it you fucking loser it's easy

what is the best linux?

>>57850391
4.8

>>57850407
thanks

>>57850391
linux-libre

>>57850391
linux mint

>>57850209
why is a source file more special that anything else?
you know it's just a file with a special extension that has text in it right?

>>57850450

No, I meant source as in the file that's being copied. Basically.

>rsync /dir/file /newdir/file
>check the hash of /dir/file
>it's now different

I'd expect the new hash to be maybe changed due to corruption (hardware I assume?), but not the file which was being copied.

>>57849593
How do you manage software you installed from source (with the "make" command)? Like keep them updated, resinstall or uninstall?

>>57850629

You package it for your package manager. You don't just do "sudo make install".

>>57850629
use your package manager

>>57850629
better use your package manager, just use gentoo if you compile from source a lot.
if it isn't in your repos then just check in once in a while to see if there are any updates on github

Ok, my mom is a teacher and slightly tech literate, but the other teachers keep messing up her work PC with their malware ridden USB sticks.

So I want to install GNU/Linux on her work PC.

There's one requirement, though. I need to get Microsoft Office 2003 to work in it without hassle. Is it possible?

Also, Xubuntu or Mint?

>>57850806
Why install GNU if you don't want malware?
Just use plain Linux with GNU removed.

>>57850806
Ubuntu Mate
>>57850836
retard

>>57850806
Never Mint. Use Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE.
Giving WINE a shot is the best chance you'll have, but do remember Libreoffice is compatibile fully with MS office.

>>57850881
>>57850883
Thanks lads.

I have Xubuntu on dual boot and honestly not very impressed with it. The default audio player keeps crashing.
I think I'll try Ubuntu MATE.

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anyone running arch and using qt creator?

need help with the debugging,

I cannot make the damn assembly go away, even when pressing the button who is supposed to do that

>>57850883
> but do remember Libreoffice is compatibile fully with MS office.
Are you sure about that?

I'm just curious why people hate on ubuntu and call it bloated?

I'm running 16.04 on an old thinkpad with a 120gb ssd and 8gb ram and all I did was install unity tweak, ncmpcpp, vlc, and a few other things. Tweaked the appearance and launcher and disabled the amazon botnet

I've never experienced lag or issues at all. It's the most seamless and lightest feeling os I've ever used so I don't understand why people call it bloated? systemd-analyze has it as 16second boot time

>>57851083
Yes. You can choose to save as MS Office formats, and open MS Office formats in Libreoffice. Save it in 1, it'll work in the other.

>>57851102
Yeah, but can it open office 2003 .xdoc files and shit?

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>>57851018
Shouldn't it be like this if you don't have anything else installed?
Here's mine. I enabled the clang use flags though so I don't know about achieving that on arch.

>>57851159
When I go into Libreoffice writer, and choose 'open file', MS Word 97,2000,XP,2003,2007,2010 and 2013 are in the list of compatible filetypes.

>>57851198
ok den

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>>57851171
I have gdb installed and have build the project with the debug configuration.

If you press the button I have marked with red on my screenshot here, the "instruction-wise-debugging"-mode will be toggled and the assembly for each line will be shown.

If you press the button again, the assembly will be hidden again.

This works in my VM with ubuntu and on another laptop of my friend

>>57851243
It doesn't do that in my version, it's the latest one so maybe they changed something.

also, do you need an IDE for Qt or just for C++?
If it's just for C++ then using a simple makefile for compiling would be a lot easier than fucking around with an IDE. I don't think Qtcreator is that good for plain C++.

>>57850629
leave the source directory there and go back and sudo make uninstall and then delete it, and download the new source and reinstall. For slackware this is the best option for new software that isn't on slackbuilds.org, like the newest version of icecat.

>>57851283
>It doesn't do that in my version
that means you can toggle the assembly?

>it's the latest one so maybe they changed something
i got 4.1.0 from the AUR

>also, do you need an IDE for Qt or just for C++?
I want to get it working and a bit annoyed how its working on everything but my laptop

>>57851314
Yeah, it first thought it didn't.
Now that I've cycled through line by line using the buttons to the left it hides the assembly.

>>57851367
>buttons to the left
which buttons you mean?

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>>57851379
Step in, step out, step over

>>57851379
Maybe you could try an older version. Not sure if you can do that on arch though.

>>57851419
well the dev version (4.2.0) doesnt work, i found that out after 2 hours of compiling

thanks for the suggestion, ill try getting an older one

also, i am currently installing arch in a vm (on arch lol) to find out if its working there

>>57851479
make a chroot and do it in there?

>>57851479
lmao
just install gentoo in a vm, it works there for sure on 4.1.0
or just try compiling 4.1.0. Don't forget to do something like make -j5 or whatever number of cores you have. It might take a long time to do just in a single thread.

>>57851535
dont have any experience with that, how would it work?

>>57851584
a chroot is similar to a VM but runs natively. just make a new chroot environment & install the package and test it as needed. look up guides for making a chroot if you need to.

>>57851599
thanks for the info, will try that

What command do I enter to get my Pi out of emergency mode? I've checked a few dozen threads on google and I can't seem to get a simple answer.

>>57851688
>google
BOTNET

Just started a 2gb download, 5gb installed, -0,2gb net "pacman -Syu"
How fucked am I? I'm going to be reinstalling soon anyway

>>57851707
i'll be praying to saint ignucius for you anon

>>57851699
FUCKING SORRY I'LL SWITCH I JUST NEED TO BE ABLE TO BOOT THIS FUCKING THING

>>57851707
There's a reason for that 1% market share.

>>57851899
arch doesnt have 1% market share

>>57851721
I think I'm good, all I care about is my data and that's going to survive in any case.
Why doesn't someone make a Debian/Devuan/Ubuntu repo with all packages statically linked? It would be fucking perfect.

>>57851948
feel free to come over to Debian Sid

>>57851899
>>57851964
Probably going for xubuntu tbqh. Rolling release is overrated, I run Devuan Jessie on my laptop and it's fucking flawless, but >muh games are better on ubuntu

How will Loonixtards ever recover? :^)
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/pull/362

>>57851479
>>57851565
>>57851535

well fuck.

i installed arch in a vm and installed only the needed packages...
package-list: http://a.pomf.cat/zaozeh.txt

its working! i can toggle the assembly how I wanted

How can I now find the error on my laptop? Compare packages and versions?

Which packages could be relevant here?

Should I use -O3 in gentoo?

>>57852045
it's safer to only use -O2. you'll need to recompile every single package if you pick -O3 and something goes wrong.

>>57852045
>2016
>not using -Ofast by default

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>>57852027
Well, it's a good commit.

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>>57852079
>tfw you realize lkml don't accept anything from github

>>57850142
Reminder that if you select all updates in Mint 18's Update Manager then you would be getting the same updates as you would in Ubuntu. Mint is fine.

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>>57852127

are you sure?

>>57849727
Horseshit. Source: Been using Lubuntu since 2011 because Unity is shit.

>>57852037
nevermind, i am a colossal faggot.

the qt-creator project was fucked. If I create a new one the debugger works fine

so much wasted time...

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>>57852159
>"""UNSAFE PACKAGES"""

>"""DANGEROUS PACKAGES"""

>>57852190
As i remember kernel updates were those filthy dangerous packages.

@57850142
>reddit.com
cool post

>>57852159
>if you select all updates
Yes. It even says that in the reddit thread you posted.

>>57852204
yep

*base-files|*|5||
*linux-|*|5||
linux|*|5||
grub|*|5||
grub2|*|5||

https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/blob/master/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate/rules

>>57852237
>>57852159
You have the choice to select all updates in Linux Mint 18, and you would be getting the same experience as you would in Ubuntu. Even when you first start up Mint they ask you for what kind of update policy you want.

>>57852332
>You have the choice to select all updates in Linux Mint 18, and you would be getting the same experience as you would in Ubuntu.
But anon, it says here it's UNSAFE and DANGEROUS. Ubuntu doesn't say that.

>>57852332
Try installing the package mdm (Utilities for single-host parallel shell scripting) on Mint. Ubuntu can, Mint can't, because on Mint the package is Mints Display Manager. Why do they highjack package names like that? Mint is literally broken.

>>57852332
if it works just like ubuntu, why not install ubuntu? it's literally the same shit without those security issues.

I'm on mint 18
I'm trying to mount a floppy disk image.
In my current directory I created a floppy image with

mkfs.msdos -C floppy.img 1440

I made a catalog by

mkdir floppy

I mounted it using

sudo mount -o loop floppy.img floppy

But now I can't put anything there, because only root owns it and can do anything. What did I do wrong?
having to sudo every copy command works, but surely there must be a better way

>>57852453
>I'm on mint 18
stopped reading there

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>>57852465
You should continue.

>>57852453
give your user permission to read/write it

>>57852409
>the only difference between Ubuntu and Mint is how updates are handled
Okay anon
>>57852384
Yea, sadly no distro is perfect

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>>57852493
>Yea, sadly no distro is perfect
Except one.

>>57852513
that's not debian anon

When I'm at work and I'm logged in via putty to my server, within a certain amount of time, the firewall kicks me off because it thinks the connection is dead.

Is there anyway I can set it up so that it sends some information over to me every now and then?

Right now, I just have

#~/bin/dontlogmeoutfuckers.sh
#!/bin/bash

while [ 1 ]
do
    sleep 120
    echo '123'
done

But I don't want it outputted on the screen as I have stuff to do. Any suggestions?

Slackware is surprisingly nice.

@57852523
yes cause debian isnt perfect by any stretch of the imagination so i didnt post it

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>>57852820
>debian isnt perfect by any stretch of the imagination
Take that back.

@57852868
why would i take back a true statement?

>>57852596
>#~/bin/dontlogmeoutfuckers.sh
The fugg is this?

>>57852948
That's the name of the file.

That's just a habit of mine. Whenever I post code online, I just add in the name of the file before any of the actual code. I don't know where that comes from, 2bh

>>57852656
Should I try it in a VM or on real hardware?

>>57852596

echo '123' &> /dev/null

>>57853042
It won't send any information over to the putty. Meaning it'll give the same effect.

If your code will work, then it'll be similar to just running any application.

>>57851688
I've been at this for 3 more hours please someone help

>>57853066
how did you put it into emergency mode and whats emergency mode

>>57853100
I dont know. I followed a guide to set it up as an always on torrent box. I turned it off, now when I turned it on it only boots into emergency mode. Nothing on google has let me exit it.

>>57852983
Up to you.

>>57853055
what about http://www.nth-design.com/2010/05/10/using-keepalive-in-putty/

>>57853197
Man, you're a fucking life saver.

Thanks

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How do I "exit" git so I can remove the

(master|…)

thing in my prompt? My typical prompt is ~ $.

>>57852453
>sudo mount -o loop floppy.img floppy
fat doesn't support permissions at all, so the files get 'given' permissions, which defaults to what you were using (root), you need to override them if you want something else

sudo mount -o loop floppy.img floppy -ouid=1000,gid=1000

("1000" is typically the id given to the first user you create)

>>57853307
wasn't paying attention,

sudo mount -o loop,uid=1000,gid=1000 floppy.img floppy

>>57853272
PS1='\w \$'

>>57853307
>>57853324
it works, thanks

>>57853441
np, keep in mind this isn't permanent, in other filesystems that support unix permissions, you can make permanent changes, but fat doesn't, so the only way is to provide permissions at mount time (or change them with remount, you should read up on remounting, it can be very useful, you can change mount options without unmounting)

Using Ubuntu Gnome 16.10, and I use MPV/SMPlayer for videos and I notice severe tearing, a completely lack of Vsync.
I can't find an option to enable Vsync, I'm missing something? It's something that I must enable with so lines in the terminal?

Is spacefm the best Linux file manager?
I'm on xfce Btw
>Inb4 dolphin

>>57853531
Oh, shit! It's not about enabling, is about disabling it, right? That option, "allow jump frames", right?
Sorry, and arigatou anyway.

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>>57853584

>>57853366
I'm still technically using git, it just 'hides' that in the prompt. Would like to remove it for good.

>>57853620
???

>>57853647
You don't use git. The prompt runs git. Disabling the prompt means not running git.
>>57853657
install gentoo

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>>57853664
When I'm in

fish_config]

it still suggests I'm using git.

>>57853584
The best file manager is the terminal.

>>57853678
>fish
literally why

>>57853701
it has nice colours anon!

I just updated my Icecat to 45.5.1 and now the area around the address bar and bookmarks toolbar is a light shade which is fucking annoying. Switching themes doesn't help, it seems. Anyone know what's going on?

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>>57849749

>>57852966
It's good practice and I do it too. Especially helpful if you're posting code for several files.

Is there a better terminal than urxvt?

Is there a guide to remove all the gnu stuff from my system?

>>57854158
installing a BSD solves this

>>57854158
>these interjections hurt my feelings
>fuck this shit, i'll remove all the gnu
>that'll show them, haha

any tips for installing gentoo that won't be obvious from following the handbook?

>>57854187
there is no way to install a bsd system on top of a gnu linux system
>>57854241
>he thinks everyone doesn't filter those shitposts
what did he mean by this?

>>57854258
Get some good movies for watching while compiling.

>>57854258
do not use genkernel. it is much better to configure & compile your own. try to get your USE flags right first time, or you're in for a lot of pain.
i personally found using GPT & UEFI to be harder, so if i were you i'd use MBR & legacy boot.

>>57854267
You could remove linux and replace it with kfreebsd. There's a nice parabola port which uses kfreebsdfire.

>>57854258
not really, everything is pretty much explained there
also this if you have a shitty processor >>57854274
>>57854277
it's harder only if you haven't dealt with it before.
if it's his first install then yeah, mbr and legacy bios is the best way to not fuck shit up.

>>57854277
>try to get your USE flags right first time
that isn't going to happen
your first gentoo setup is going to be slow not because you have to compile everything, but because you're going to have to compile many things multiple times as you find more flags you didn't think to set

>>57850641
How do you do that?
And how someone using something like Slackware that doesn't even have a package manager would do it?

>>57854296
i'm fine with linux. it's the gnu part that i want to surgically remove.

>>57854361
your system wont work with no gnu :(

>>57850629
make a package and install that

for example, on arch, you'd write a PKGBUILD, then run "makepkg -i" to build/install it (then consider putting it in the AUR if suitable)

>>57854372
really? does bsd not work? is it a fake system?
damn... i thought i could do that :(

@57854410
why do you do this to us anon

>>57854393
>on arch
stopped reading here
post already matters

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>>57854158
Sure thing buddy.

Pic related is a list of all GNU software.

Just check if your installation contains these and remove them.

Make sure to find and implement a proper replacement for GRUB before you start removing everything else, depending on your skills (i assume they're null - otherwise you wouldn't be asking here) it could end up being quite a challenge to get everything working properly and it would be a shame to waste time removing everything only to end up with an unbootable system after removing GRUB.

Bear in mind that removing ncurses renders useful tools like wavemon, htop, cmus, ncmpccp, mutt unusable.

>>57854158
You need to install gentoo, stall, void, or similar. You need musl libc or uclibc and busybox.

>>57854448
nice! thanks.
i'm assuming all the software has non-gnu alternatives or this could go on for quite a long time. i'd have to write the essential programs myself.
>>57854462
>gentoo
i'm already using it. is there a page on their wiki which deals with this?

>>57854462
gentoo and void both include GNU software. It's the systemd that they have a beef with.

for a GNU-less Linux distribution Alpine is probably the only choice

>>57854505
it doesn't have to be GNU-less from the beginning as I'm willing to even rewrite software if necessary. or i could just replace it with software from alpine.

>>57854525
what dont you like about gnu software anon

>>57854492
>i'm assuming all the software has non-gnu alternatives or this could go on for quite a long time. i'd have to write the essential programs myself.
well for starters you can start writing a replacement for GCC.
clang is yet to be able to compile the Linux kernel.

and considering that you use gentoo, a compiler that's able to compile the kernel is a must.

>tfw even a distro completly without any gnu software is still the gnu system because the idea was born in rms' mind and he gave it its name

>>57854535
he's baiting.

>>57854554
that's not true. Linux kernel is a project independent of GNU and FSF. An operating system based on Linux is not necessarily a distribution of GNU OS. Android is a good example. Alpine too.

>>57854535
the better question would be "what is there to like about gnu software"
>>57854550
i wouldn't need to since clang already exists.
i fail to see how this would stop me from achieving my goal of a GNU-less system.

not really. you could literally compile every single package off-site

>>57854492
>is there a page on their wiki which deals with this?
It would be a great idea if you shared your experience and made one. I'm sure there are people that have a similar problem.

>>57854599
yeah that's what i'm gonna do if i decide to use gentoo as a starting point.
would it be better than void?

>>57854592
Hows that a GNU-less system if you need GNU software to make it work?

Doesn't make a lot of sense anon.

>>57854617
it's actually quite simple.
if a system doesn't have any GNU code running on it is GNU-less

>>57854615
Why are you asking me? One would assume that you as a gentoo server have much larger experience than a GNU-babby debian user like me.

Install void and share your experiences with us.

I'm browsing Friendly GNU/Linux Thread everyday, so make sure to update us on your progress tomorrow.

>>57854650
>gentoo server
gentoo user lmao

>>57854448
>Make sure to find and implement a proper replacement for GRUB
LILO. Easy. Next.

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Have this rare linux pepe. Feel free to call it just linux pepe.

>>57854672
>mom look I googled for it.
Stop being a dummy anon, knowing the name of the package is not successfully replacing an existing bootloader with another solution on a running installation.

There's also BURG and some retarded ms-dos thingy.

>>57854650
not really. why would you assume running gentoo would make me knowledgeable about anything but running and maintaining gentoo?

i guess i'll try. first I have to hunt down every single GNU package on that list and check for alternatives and write replacements if need be.
>>57854672
>>57854691
you don't even need a bootloader if you have uefi

>>57854687
I've bad news for you, anon.
It's made in GIMP.

>>57854707
I'm eager to see the results

what's the point with removing gnu
don't you guys like freedom

>>57854728
he's making the same bait everyday.

Just follow the herd and reply politely in a helpful manner

>>57854709
Does it have any GIMP code in it?
No? Then I fail to see how it matters.
>>57854720
why? are you interested in removing gnu from you system as well? what's your skill set?
>>57854728
yes. i like it a lot.
that's why i'm going to exercise my agency as a free person and remove gnu software from my system.

>>57854728
People are baiting because they're bored.

>>57854691
>>mom look I googled for it.
I've used LILO before???

Back when I installed Debian way back when

>>57854756
I bet you think people using bsd are baiting as well and they're just running it in a vm or something.

>>57854767
>unironically using bsd

>>57854779
>unironically using unironically

>>57854745
>why? are you interested in removing gnu from you system as well? what's your skill set?
Why not? If it didn't result in a completely unusable system akin to BSD with more hardware support?

I'm waiting for you to finish a proper tutorial.

>>57854786
>implying

>>57854789
what skills do you have? you might contribute if you are so interested in it.

that won't be any time soon though. you can't finish writing a "tutorial" you haven't even started yet.

>>57854856
I have no skills, i'm just a user

>>57854879
>I have no skills
you could have just stopped there

>>57854901
hey, at least i'm not the one who needs spoonfeeding on how to remove packages from his OS lmao

>>57854918
who's that?

After a year or so on Ubuntu, I'm thinking of switching to Fedora. What's the worst part about Fedora 25?

at least he's not a tripfag guys :(

>>57854918
that wasn't me though. removing them is easy, the hard part is what comes next

>>57854951
>he
whos he?

>>57854949
Stick to Ubuntu. The only reason people switch to Fedora is because they don't want to get bullied for using Noobuntu, but at the end of the day, you get bullied and additional hat jokes.

>>57854949
no LTS version, tiny repositories, strict rules regarding patented software.

if you're a developer you'll like it.
rpmbuild is great

>>57855010
I am, what's rpmbuild and how is it great?

>>57855010
>strict rules
Thats why the kernel is blobbed right, because the rules are strict.

>>57855025
someone post me the cartoon guy thats upset wearing a fedora distro hat please

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Basically, for a long time I dual booted windows with Mint. When I used Mint, I found there were few advantages of doing so since I used it the exact same way I used windows. So, I went ahead and installed awesomeWM. This meant that although I literally couldn't do anything at first (it took me so long to figure out that the graphical package manager was called mintinstall, that sped things along), every time I wanted to do anything (connect to a network, change the volume) I had no option but to sit down and learn how.

And so it was that I gradually learned Linux. This is what my configuration looks like right now, which I think is pretty alright apart from the godawful icons which won't change for some reason (the icontheme works fine in xfce4 and .gtkrc but awesome doesn't like it).

Theming firefox was a big hurdle, I based it off a userstyle called tinycss but it didn't work at all out of the box for me so I had to learn css to fix it. I've still not managed to remove that seperator before the menu button, so if anyone has any ideas...?

but yeah. r8 my rice

>>57855025
>HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR IT'S NOT STALLMAN TIER THEREFORE DOESN'T COUNT FUCK PEOPLE WITH HARDWARE WITHOUT OPEN DRIVERS DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

this is how you look.
you know perfectly what i'm talking about, so fuck off you cunt

>>57855054
>IT'S NOT STALLMAN TIER
so it's not shit?
why would anyone be against that?

>>57855021
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package

>>57855052
the point in this post was that I think this is a much better way to learn linux than just trying arch off the bat or using a noob distro like mint as is. I think this is a healthy medium

>>57855052
>terminal transparency
aka how to tell someone doesn't use the console for purposes other than desktop threads

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>>57855048

>>57855054
Where did I say that I care about stallman? The point is, "strict" is actually not so strict.

>>57855098
what do you expect of a mint user?

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>>57855052
>python
>mint
>"epic" "hacker" "rice"

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>>57855052
see: >>57849749
and then see: >>57850142
also, pic related

>>57855052
>awesome, python and mint
lmao
nice combo

>install swm, make a user to test it
>collapsing a window into nothing crashes the WM
kek

>>57855162
Does my country have an NSA even if I'm not in the US?
Seems like this picture doesn't apply to me.

>>57855197
NSA will pass on information to other countries that ask for it

>>57855052
is this bait?

>>57855197
it matters where the server is you're connecting to, no where you live
that said, google is already part of prism (google it, kek)

>>57855210
So they'll pass on information to a country that isn't allied with the US? Why would they even do that?
>>57855222
Why would it matter if they can't do anything with that information?

⇉57855052
>python
>uninstall you'reself

guys why are we bullying the mint user

>>57855283
Just having fun at the expense of this sad creature
Anyone who not only uses both python and awesome but decides to show them off isn't human as far as i'm concerned.

>>57855243
>Why would it matter if they can't do anything with that information?
But they can and they do. Like >>57855222 said, the server location matters. When you connect to an US server, the NSA can freely request your data (that's also a reason not to use DDG btw), if it's an EU server for instance, it's more difficult for them to get the data.
But google is part of PRISM, a NSA surveillence program, where global data is stored and made searchable (also see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XKeyscore).

>>57855339
How will them having my junk search results affect me? I don't do anything important on google.
And I'm positive the NSA won't give out shit to my country so that's fine too.

>>57855383
it'd have been more helpful if you gave us the name of your country beforehand anon

>>57855398
It'd have been more helpful if you didn't assume everyone is living in the US.
Not using google won't do much for my privacy but it will definitely hinder my quality of life so I don't really see any reason not to use it for small and unimportant stuff.

>>57855427
if you'd have given us your country we wouldnt have to assume.

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>>57855339
there is literally nothing wrong with the nsa

>>57855438
Nah, I'm pretty sure you can guess my country just by analyzing my speech patterns
I'm sorry if you can't do that

>>57855477
speech parrerns from a few posts on an anonymous site
yeah that'll work anon

What are the best music players ?
Which one are you using ?

>>57855502
>What are the best music players ?
The ones I'm using.
>Which one are you using ?
The best.

>>57855500
I wouldn't have said that if I didn't think it was possible to establish both my first language and the dialect of English I use just from these posts

>>57855533
you've done nothing to distinguish where you're from apart from 'not allied with usa', nor your first or second languages. how did you even reach this conclusion

>>57855555
check em

>>57855524
le funny answer

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>>57855555
Very nice.

>>57850806
see this
>>57853782
you can use Libreoffice
alternativley you can use MS Office with PlayOnLinux

>>57855555
I'm talking about analyzing my posts and determining that information from the word order, word choice, my use of certain grammatical structures, etc.

>>57855555
holy kek

>>57855589
why would i give enough of a shit to do that
all i ask is 'where you from' and you give me some analytical riddle

>>57855601
i mean if you can't perform even such basic operations then what do you think that does to your credibility?
why would anyone trust your posts?

>>57855623
can you figure out where i'm from using my posts?

>>57855502
>Which one are you using ?
gmpc

>>57855636
Nope. didn't analyze them but I could if I felt the need to.

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>>57855502
mpd + ncmpcpp

>>57855502
mpv

>>57855668
do it then if you're so good
what makes you think i feel the need to work out some dumb puzzle when i can just ask you where you're from, as that would have helped to further the discussion without derailing it like 'durr werk out were im from using only my wurds :DDD'.

>>57855502
deadbeef
>>57855680
>no album art
>TUI, aka GUI but gimped
use mpc.

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http://www.redbubble.com/people/spenglershirts/works/24180123-richard-stallman-mug?asc=u&p=mug&rel=carousel&style=standard

>>57855706
why? i'm not the one offering advice about government agencies.
you're the one who has to prove something here, not me

>>57855766
i'm proving you're an idiot. why do you feel the need to go through all this when all i asked is where you're from, as it was relevent to the discussion.

>>57855751
Album art is untidy and unnecessary. I want to listen to music while doing other shit, not sit in front of my monitor drooling while staring at a static image for an hour.
I only use the terminal to queue songs in the playlist; added some shortcuts to my window manager so I can stop / pause / resume / skip / go back one track any time. I can look through my music library (sorted by tags), search for tags and have visualizations if I so desire (I don't).

>>57855781
>i'm proving you're an idiot.
i feel like you're proving the exact opposite.

>>57855805
lmao
this is your standard gnufag
kill you'reself bruh

>>57855810
why is it intelligent to not tell me where you're from and force us into a 20 minute argument over you being arrogant. tell me why you outright refuse to tell me the name of the country you live in.

@57855823
That weak bait deserves no (You).

>>57855831
you could easily track me down if you wanted to with that information so no, i won't fall for your tricks.

>>57855864
the name of your country won't let me track you, nor do i care enough to. there's no need to be this paranoid

57855837
>this gnutard thinks anyone who disagrees with him "is baiting"
your right
this deserves no (you)
in fact it doesn't even deserve a @

>>57855885
wow thats a new all-time low for replying anon.
even the worst of people here deserve an @

>>57855876
>the name of your country won't let me track you
why are you so sure about this?

>>57855906
tell me how knowing the name of a country some anon i saw on 4chan lets me track them

>>57855757
No one wants to drink coffee from a mug with Stallman on it?

>>57855924
you could easily search my whole country and try to find me
i don't want that to be even a slight possibility
why do you want to know my country?

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I installed a call HOWDOI app so I can request an answer for any CLI related question.
I also got DICT so I can get dictionary definitions.

What are some similar cool tools?

>>57855939
i can't imagine anyone would like this kind of fecal imagery anywhere near their kitchen

>>57855945
because it was relevent to the discussion with google and the NSA giving information out. do you really think some anon in fglt is going to search an entire country for someone he had a discussion with?
if i were to say i live in ukraine, tell me how you'd find the name and location and speech pattern of everyone in ukraine just so you can find me, and then what you'd do knowing it was me.

>>57855957
tldr

$ vrms

No non-free or contrib packages installed on xubuntu!  rms would be proud.

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>>57855969
>fecal

I think you mean regal

this man is the king of the free software movement

>>57855985
why not? who knows what kind of shit you like to do in your spare time
maybe you find it amusing to track down anons and scare them irl
ukraine is a pretty small country so it wouldn't be hard to find someone even with the shit that's going on there right now. i wouldn't post such information on the internet. i'm not going to find you but some sick poster here might

>>57856031
you have absolutely no reason to be so paranoid.

>>57856019
nah i'm pretty sure i meant fecal there (with an F)
why does he look like shit then? how are his vassals tolerating this kind of behavior?

>>57856049
you have absolutely no way of knowing that

>>57856072
you should be careful anon. your friends might post on 4chan and be looking at what you're doing right now and you wouldn't even know. only the worst of people know what anons on an anime imageboard get up to in their spare time.

>>57856055
he looks like jesus, why do you hate jesus

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When i open cmus and type ":add /home/username/music" nothing happens
I can't add music via the :add command nor view it with the file browser.
What do ?

>>57856055
Sometimes tism takes a toll on one's looks

it's called dedication

>>57856097
yes they could be. that's why i included a lot of false positives and false negatives to trick anyone who would try to analyze my speech using software
it wouldn't stop the more dedicated ones though

>>57856112
replace username with your name

>>57856112
Capitalize Music, also this >>57856139

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http://www.redbubble.com/people/spenglershirts/works/24178811-richard-stallman?asc=u&p=sticker&rel=carousel

>>57856138
that's absolutely pathetic.
no-one on the internet that doesnt know you cares enough to search an entire country to find you, and i can assure you no-one even cares to do any dumb analysis on your 'speech patterns'

love you all guys

>>57856139
>>57856156
does nothing

This might be my favorite

http://www.redbubble.com/people/spenglershirts/works/24178811-richard-stallman?p=iphone-case&phone_model=iphone_6s&cover_type=snap&type=iphone_6s_snap

>>57856107
last time i checked jesus wasn't an obese fecal-looking homeless "man"

>>57856193
install gentoo

>>57856167
i wouldn't be so sure of that.
you'll get more careful when someone finally finds all the threads you visit and logs every single thing he can find about you

>>57856235
I would just like to interject for one moment. The operating system you are suggesting for me to install, and rather commandingly might I add, will in fact, not directly solve my current problem at hand, and will actually cause me to ask further questions about the difficult process involved in installing it. Gentoo is a very nice operating system itself, but I'd rather you directly assist me in my quest to solve my current predicament.

I understand that many computer users run the Gentoo Linux operating system, and I realize they may enjoy it greatly and are not currently experiencing the current problem that I have whilst using my non-Gentoo operating system. Through a peculiar turn of events, I have noticed an enormous amount of users make the "Install Gentoo" suggestion, but many of its users are not aware that this suggestion, in most cases, is actually not an "easy-fix" to every single computer-related error.

There really are reasons for installing Gentoo, and there are people using it, but it is just for the few users who choose to compile their own source code locally according to their chosen configuration. Gentoo is just another operating system: the problems I am experiencing will not undeviatingly be solved if I make the choice to install it. All these so-called "Install Gentoo" suggestions I am noticing should cease immediately.

>>57856252
why does anyone have a reason to do that to you

>>57856235
Why would installing gentoo help me ?

>>57856287
gentoo solves all friend

>>57856280
i don't know what goes on in sick minds
that isn't my field of expertise

>>57855989
Hells yes I love it!


Post more of this stuff!

>>57856302
i dont think you're going to find anyone this dedicated to being 'sick minded' on a technology imageboard, or give a shit about anything other than posting install gentoo

>>57856319
>i dont think you're going to find anyone this dedicated to being 'sick minded' on a technology imageboard
i mean there are a lot of RMS fans here so you are clearly wrong about this one

>>57856432
are you even trying anymore

>>57856446
trying what? i'm not the one trying to find an anonymous poster on 4cheddit
you seem to be too fixated on me.
i feel like i've been violated in some way.

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>>57849593
The only thing i compile myself is pdf.

>>57856473
that's how the sick minded want you to feel :^)
i've been building a profile for you anon
we do nut forgit
we du nut firgiv

don't bully shizophrenics

>>57856485
i don't believe this is true
i've successfully tricked you by using a specific word order
looks like you're the one who got fucked here, not me

>>57856516
you've fallen for my sick minded tricks anon

i'm honestly trying to tell you something
pick up the message already

i've been so fucked into using word orders blah blah
get a life already

>>57856491
Who would do that?

>>57856535
your message is simply a fake
it's not even your own original thought
how can you think it has any worth if it was merely implanted into you and you didn't realize it yourself?
you're just another sicko on the internet trying to scare an anonymous poster

>>57856568
w h a t
h
a
t

linux distro for hp af131dx

>>57856491
Me.

>>57856595
gentoo

>>57856587
you can't claim your post has any value if it wasn't something you realized yourself
it was simply passed on to you like your genes
a kind of meme so to speak

>>57856611
this is ironic right?

>>57856621
in what way is it ironic?
i fail to see the reasoning behind your post

>>57856644
i'm coming for you
you've fallen for my trap, i now know your speech patterns

>>57856656
but most of them were fakes
only about 5-10% of the text in my posts was actually typed in the way i initially formed it in my head

>>57856687
that's 10% of the information i need anon

made a new thread
>>57856693

>>57856692
no.
that 10% would give you the info "speaker of American English"
but you already knew that just by looking at my posts
an analysis isn't even needed here.
but keep deluding yourself into believing you have uncovered some deep secret

>>57856728
i'm pissing you about you know that right
and i'm sure you're doing the same to me

>>57856315

clifu() { q="${@}"; curl -sL "commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/${q}/$(printf ${q} | base64)/plaintext" | sed 1,2d | tac | sed 1,2d | tac; }

>>57856755
nice false flag there. i won't fall for such simple tricks. that's like adding a mistake in "color" and saying you're british
i'm not trying to hunt you down as we speak. i can't be certain about you though. you don't seem normal by any stretch of the imagination. you might think so, but it certainly isn't the case

>>57855805
>Album art is untidy and unnecessary.
>I want to listen to music while doing other shit
Cancer.

>>57856758

$clifu 
printf: usage: printf [-v var] format [arguments]

>>57856897
try this

clifu() { 
    q="${1:?}"
    q64="$(printf '%s' "${q}" | base64)"
    curl -sL "commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/${q}/${q64}/plaintext" | sed 1,2d | tac | sed 1,2d | tac
}

also needs a search argument like
$ clifu fortune